WEBVTT - The Big Hurt: Hate & Anger 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:11.320 My name is Julie Douglas, and this is the stuff 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:16.360 of life that noises from my coworker to Meeka Campbell, 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:20.120 who's smashing glassware at Atlanta's Rage Room, a place where 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:22.400 you're hand at a baseball bat and let loosen, a 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:25.880 room full of objects with only your anger and frustration 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:36.879 to guide you. Anger can be clarifying, helping you to 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:39.840 hone in on a problem. It can also be liberating 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:42.800 in that to hell with everything way. The problem with 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:47.280 anger is its ability to mutate into something dark and corrupting. 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:53.239 Anger is one of our innate affects, and affects are 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:58.880 they're pre written physiological programs that all human beings are 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:02.560 born with, and they are automatically triggers under certain condition. 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:08.600 In this episode, psychologist Joseph Burgo explains what makes anger 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:13.240 tick and why, untended it can be a time bomb 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:16.600 of hatred. Heidi Bayrick of the Southern Poverty Law Center 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:18.880 walks us through a heat map of hatred and the 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:22.920 United States and who's perpetrating it. It is a big 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:28.280 mistake for people to assume you know that that hate 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:32.840 group members are sort of teeth missing clansmen, or that 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:37.119 you know klansmen are really the only group that's represented 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:46.080 in the white supremacist world in the United States. In 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:50.840 his book Consolations, poet David White writes that quote anger 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:55.000 is the deepest form of compassion for another, for the world, 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:57.800 for the self, for a life, for the body, for 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:02.760 a family, and for all our ideals, all vulnerable and 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:09.799 all possibly about to be hurt. And this anger as 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:13.680 compassion idea was on full display on January first, two 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:17.120 thousand and seventeen, when more than three million men, women 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:20.640 and children across the globe participated in the Women's March, 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:30.960 galvanized by outrage, united by a sense of purpose, demanding 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:35.240 to be sealed, demanding to be heard, and demanding control 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:42.240 of your destiny. State sanctioned violence fueled by racism, sexism, 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:47.639 in punophobia, building walls that are borders, constructing jail that 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:53.760 our communities, racial profiling of Muslim registering, and even funding 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:58.840 cuts were more families restricting health care based on gender, 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:04.000 and then now people will go right to control, how, when, 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:10.560 and with who would have built their families all act 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:14.720 to control of us, not some of us, but all 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:23.240 of us. In Washington, d C. We met Juliana A. 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:26.880 Retired nurse from Sikesville, Maryland. She was wrapped in a 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:30.880 blanket stitched with sentiments like don't make America sick again, 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:34.760 and we the people stand for the rights of all people. 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:39.400 I'm here because I fought for all these rights fifty 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:41.880 years ago, and I'm not allowed about to let them 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:54.320 go down. The dream in the sixties, we fought for this. 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:58.440 We had sit ins, we had marches, We worked very 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:01.800 hard to get the rights, especially for women, but for 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:10.160 all people. And that's what I'm here for. Togo, we 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:16.320 heard this echoed over and over again. For Cathy, a 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:19.680 former DC resident who worked for the government for thirty years, 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:22.919 this is not the kind of legacy she imagined for 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:27.520 her grandchildren. I'm here because I have seven little girls 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:31.160 in my immediate family under the age of twelve, and 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:34.360 I'm here representing them because we have come too far 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:38.120 in the past sixty years to go back one inch, 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:41.080 and I don't plan to do it, and I hope 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.640 those little girls don't plan to do it. I just 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:47.880 hope from here we can march forward. And I think 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:50.760 the goal of this administration is to march us right 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:54.360 back fifty or sixty years and we're not going there. 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.720 It's easy to see how at the very core, anger 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:06.279 spirals out of caring or as David White calls, the 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:11.440 deepest form of compassion. Something clinical psychologist Joseph Burgo echoes, 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:16.640 anger has value in two different ways. Personally, it can 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:19.640 signal to us that we're overwhelmed and we need some 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:22.920 kind of respite or downtime, we need to invest more 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:26.919 in self care. So it signals to us that, you know, 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:29.760 we're in a state of overwhelmed. And it sometimes lets 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:32.640 us know that we're being mistreated or abused and we 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:40.279 need to stand up for ourselves. So if we have 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:43.599 a non violent flare up, it can be constructive, even 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:46.599 instructive in getting to the bottom of a problem. But 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.640 when a flare up becomes rage, it can veer into 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:55.279 the destructive. Like all affects, anger has an inherent time 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:57.719 limit built into it. You know, it has an arc 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:01.400 and it eventually passes away. Um. It could be a 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:05.080 very intense response that wanes over time after we calm down, 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:09.560 after we're able to calm ourselves. Um. But when it 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:15.279 doesn't pass, when it becomes entrenched, intense and unrelenting, then 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:18.720 we call it rage or we call it hatred. Um. So, 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:23.279 while anger has signal value and be constructive, hatred tends 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:27.760 to be a destructive force because it's it is so unrelenting, 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:31.640 um and ongoing. It's it's as if you get stuck 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:34.159 in the anger loop and you can't get out of it. 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:42.320 You could even say that hate has its own algorithm. 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:47.240 Hating is the result of persistent and enduring experiences of 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:52.320 stimulus overload and anger that goes unaddressed and just keeps, 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:56.160 you know, enduring. So hatred requires you know, time, It 0:06:56.279 --> 0:07:00.680 requires a lot of experience to develop for up. This 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:03.480 is why politics can be a petri dish for hate. 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:07.800 A lot of what is going on on the political 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:13.760 scene these days can be understood through the lens of shame, contempt, 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:24.160 and hatred. I've written about the profile of the typical 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:28.040 Trump supporter these days, who is kind of been left 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:31.559 behind by the economic revival, since the downturn has seen 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:37.520 standard of living deteriorate, loss of good jobs. Um, and 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:44.160 that's a humiliating experience. Eighteen months ago, we never knew. 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:47.320 A lot of people didn't know. Some people had a feeling. 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.120 A lot of people didn't give us much of a 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:55.640 chance but we understood what was happening on the campaign. 0:07:55.720 --> 0:08:00.000 I called it the forgotten man and the forgotten woman. 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:04.360 Well you're not forgotten anymore that I can tell you. 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:11.680 Donald Trump really spoke to those people. He really addressed 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:16.040 to their shame. UM. He promised to do things to 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:19.960 alleviate that shame by bringing back jobs to focus on 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:27.040 protecting minority rights, undoubtedly a good thing. Has made the 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:31.560 typical disenfranchised white voter feel like, well, what about me. 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:36.120 You're not speaking to me. You don't care about my concerns, 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:40.160 and that can feel shaming and humiliating. UM, as if 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:43.640 I matter less than those other people whose rights you're 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:46.080 trying so hard to protect. I don't think that's the 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:49.200 intent at all, but it is the experience, and I 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:53.160 think until we developed a more unifying message that speaks 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:56.719 to everybody's desires, you know, I think we're going to 0:08:56.800 --> 0:09:02.400 go on in this way. But to truly understand this dynamic, 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:04.680 we're going to need to back up and find out 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:11.560 how shame plays a significant role. Shame and hatred are 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:17.680 uh intimately connected, particularly the sort of shame that comes 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:22.160 with contempt from the outside. Contempt is a big stimulus 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:27.960 for shame and a big stimulus for hateful responses in return. 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:32.160 You know, one of the classic ways of dealing with 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:35.600 shame um is to try and offload it onto somebody 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:41.600 else and make that person feel bad instead of you. Hey, hey, 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:45.760 hey said, no, I got you, because black lives don't matter. 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:48.120 There ain't no proof just because you say something don't 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:54.000 mean nothing, prove it. I appreciate about hey, I'm talking 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:56.760 for you. And as Burgo points out, hate and shame 0:09:56.800 --> 0:10:00.600 are nonpartisan emotions. There's plenty of it be found on 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:04.600 both sides of the political divide. A Trump supporter wearing 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:07.160 a build the Wall t shirt was assaulted by several 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:09.800 young men. Fearing for his safety, I yelled at him 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:16.880 to get away, get that ahead. The methode you get 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:19.440 if you listen to the liberal left these days is 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:24.000 pretty much one of contempt and ridicule. That's shaming, it's humiliating, 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:27.520 it's making him look ridiculous, which is a way of 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:31.480 kind of offloading their own sense of humiliation at loss 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.240 you onto the other side. Now, a lot of that's 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:38.000 well justified, and I'm not criticizing any kinds of political 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:42.840 movements that are arising in response to violations of the 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:46.480 political order. But it's just it's fascinating to me to 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:49.600 see the way shame um is getting stirred up on 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:53.120 both sides, and it's getting traded back and forth between 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:57.960 conservatives and liberals. If there's one thing that Burgo wants 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:01.000 you to take away from fleeting moments of anger or 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:06.360 deeply entrenched rage, it's this we need to look inward 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:10.520 and explore more deeply. Well, what's the source of this 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:13.560 anger is? Is there some shame behind it? Is there 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.520 some sense of humiliation? And might there be a more 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:21.000 constructive way to address the anger and humiliation rather than 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:24.319 you know, lashing out with contempt and hostility to people 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:42.280 who you perceived to be the cause of it. I'm 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:47.400 very scared. I see too much of the racism, the 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:51.560 putting people down, and I've heard too many tales as 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:55.959 already starting in certain small pockets, and I'm really scared 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.679 of that. I mean, you know, I had friends, I mean, 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:02.040 I'm back from the sixties that I remember having friends 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:07.280 whose parents were Holocaust survivors. And you know, we don't 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:13.400 need a hat go through this again. There have been 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:16.559 more than one thousand documented hate crimes since the election 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:21.840 of Donald J. Trump, desecration of Jewish cemeteries, swastika vandalism, 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:26.840 and physical attacks with African Americans, Latinos, Arabs, Jews, Muslims, 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:33.199 and those in the LGBTQ community as the targets. A 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:36.440 March three, a Sikh man was shot outside of his 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:39.840 house in Seattle. In February, an Indian man was killed 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:43.200 in a Kansas bar. Both gunmen shouted go back to 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:48.319 your country before they pulled the trigger. He did not 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:55.720 dissolve a dept like this in two weeks. He would 0:12:55.720 --> 0:13:04.960 have celebrated his study third body. March not is his birthday. 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:12.480 I don't know what to say. We've read many times 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:21.280 in newspapers of some kind of shooting happening everywhere, and 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:28.200 we always wondered how safe. But I especially I was 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:34.360 always concerned are we doing the right thing? Are staying 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:40.000 in the United States of America? But he always assured 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:47.640 me that only good things happen to good people always 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:53.480 think good, always be good, and good will happen to you. 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.520 These aren't acts born of anger, the deepest form of 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:11.640 compassion for someone or something. These are warped actions of hatred, 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:14.320 of shame, burning a hole in the heart until there's 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:20.960 nothing left. Most hate crimes fly under the radar, but 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:24.680 they're far more widespread than anyone could ever imagined, and 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.400 it wasn't until the nineties when the Southern Poverty Law 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:34.320 Center stepped in and they began to track them. We 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:37.800 were involved in a lawsuit in civil court against a 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:40.680 clan group that had murdered a young black man in 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:44.360 Mobile and in the course of that case, we came 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:46.960 to realize that there were a lot of clan groups 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:50.960 operating across the country and people were very much unaware 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:54.880 of that. In fact, police agencies, in particular the FBI 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:58.440 were not tracking that activity because they had been barred 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:01.120 from doing that in the late cig He's after it 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.360 was found that the FBI had been investigating people like 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:07.640 John Lennon, Martin Luther King. My name is Heidi Birick, 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:11.080 and I run the Intelligence Project at the Southern Poverty 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:14.000 Law Center. That's the part of the Southern Poverty Law 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:25.200 Center that tracks some hate and extremist groups. So at 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:28.080 that time we decided to create an organization. It was 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:31.560 then called Clan Watch, it's now Intelligence Project, and we 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:34.560 began putting out a map every year of where Clan 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:37.440 groups were across the country, and nowadays we put out 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:40.840 a list of hate groups. It's a much more sophisticated tool, 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:47.920 and that's sort of the bedrock of our work tracking racist, 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:51.560 anti Semitic, other forms of hatred and the groups that 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.880 pushed those ideas and you know, letting the public become 0:15:54.920 --> 0:16:08.760 aware of those activities. Yeah, you may say the Clan 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:12.160 created a blueprint for the immigrant agenda that's being pushed 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:15.800 in the current political climate today. We should never underplay 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:17.760 the importance of the Clan in the United States because 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:22.440 it's actually the first domestic terrorist organization that this country burst. 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:25.120 This was after the Civil War. The Clan was founded 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:32.920 by Confederate general and Clan groups have waxed and waned 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:35.280 over the years that they've been very important, for example, 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:38.720 in murders against civil rights activists who were fighting for 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:41.680 the vote for African Americans in the fifties and the sixties. 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:47.280 In a few short months, five murders, alleged members of 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:50.240 the ku Klux Klan said to be involved in the killings. 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:53.560 When such an auta as this loose in and takes 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.760 over the police power, you were all completely at their mercy. 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:01.000 And their atrocities, and they have us can be visited 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:04.800 on anybody that disagrees with them in any given situation. 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:14.240 They were instrumental to restricting immigration in nine four only 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:17.679 to what was called Nordics in the law in Northern Europeans. 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:19.960 So I don't want to downplay the importance of the clan, 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:23.080 but it represents a small share of what white supremacy 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:27.359 looks like today. But what started as a joke a 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:30.520 hundred years ago when a group of men donned bedsheets 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:33.080 for a romp, has over the years attracted to it 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:37.520 persons charged with acts of harassment, intimidation, and violence throughout 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.800 the South. Even though the nation has been outraged for 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:44.920 many years, the Ku Klux Klan persists with its bizarre 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:48.480 ritual and trappings. But a hundred years is a long 0:17:48.600 --> 0:18:01.879 time for a j Your white, average white supremacist is 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:04.800 more likely nowadays to be in a suit and tie 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:08.720 um and present themselves almost an academic demeanor or even 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:12.359 like a preppy look, even though what they're saying in 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:16.600 terms of white people are superior, minorities are more criminal, 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:20.680 more terrible things about the minorities, and that white people 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:23.280 should run this country it's exactly the same message that 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:29.320 the clan had for years and years and years. In 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:33.080 the past, white supremacy was kind of a back room transaction. 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:37.320 Then the Internet showed up, and those back rooms mushroomed 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:41.560 coded language stand in words for racial slurs. Think of 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:44.840 Pepe the Frog, which now doubles as an overt symbol 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:50.200 of hatred. A popular cartoon character turned Internet mean. Pepe 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:52.960 the Frog has been added to the Anti Defamation League's 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:56.240 database of hate symbols, and a press release the organization 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:59.199 wrote the character had been quote used by haters on 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:03.120 social media to suggest racist, anti Semitic, or other bigoted 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:06.160 notions as a hate symbol. End quote that came after 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:09.320 the frog appeared as caricatures including Hitler and a Klansman. 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:16.119 According to the group, these sorts of winks at racism 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:20.760 proliferated under sites like bright bart, becoming aggressive news stories 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:25.600 about how America was being destroyed by its inclusivity agenda. Nowadays, 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:28.359 white supremacy is front and center under the banner of 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:32.520 the more palatable term alt right, and its leaders hold 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:35.960 prominent positions in the government or breaking news Knights and 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:38.320 or Bernie Sanders adding his voice to a growing chorus 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:40.840 calling President Elect Trump to cut ties with Steve benn In, 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:43.680 his newly appointed chief White House strategist. Here's what Sanders 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:48.400 said tonight. I call upon miss the Trump to rescind 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:55.639 the appointment that he made of Mr Bannon. A President 0:19:55.920 --> 0:20:00.480 of the United States should not have a racist at 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:05.560 his side. Unacceptable. The man has sparked the backlash which 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:08.440 Chief Executive Trump's campaign before that, head of the conservative 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:12.080 website Brightbart News. Bannett himself is called bright barted platform 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:17.960 for the alt right, a movement associated with white nationalism. 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:21.560 So how does someone become a white supremacist. Some people 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:23.560 grow up in racist homes and are literally born and 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:25.920 bred to be this way. But a lot of people 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:28.040 grow up on racist homes and don't turn out this way. 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:33.040 The one overriding narrative that I've heard from people about 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:35.359 how they ended up in the movement, which is what 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:38.720 they called the white supremacist movement, is that they come 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:42.840 from families that have great, great difficulties, broken families and whatnot. 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:46.640 They tend to live in neighborhoods that are rapidly diversifying, 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:50.240 and so they feel as white kids, white young people 0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:52.520 that they're sort of under assault. Whether they are or not, 0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:57.359 this is the impression they get. The movie American History 0:20:57.600 --> 0:21:01.000 X dramatizes the life of former neo Nazi Frank Mink 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:04.600 and the ideology that came to form his worldview. And 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:07.560 this scene he rallies his followers before an attack on 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:12.440 a Korean grocery store. Don't laugh, there's nothing funny going 0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:15.920 on here. This is about your life and mine. It's 0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:19.520 about decent, hard working Americans falling through the cracks and 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:22.040 getting the shaft because their government cares more about the 0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:24.600 constitutional rights of a bunch of people who aren't even 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:27.960 citizens in this country. Well, the Statue of liberty, it says, 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:31.200 give me you're tired, you're hungry, you're poor. Well it's 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:33.920 Americans who are tired and hungry and poor, and I say, 0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:39.040 until you take care of that, close the book. And 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:43.240 they seek out empowering ideas which come in the form 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:45.720 of racism. In a way, what you're doing is just 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:48.159 joining another form of a gang, right, but one that 0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:57.520 pushes white supremacists belief. To be clear, white supremacists are 0:21:57.640 --> 0:22:00.800 just one of the groups that the intelligence brought tracks. 0:22:01.520 --> 0:22:05.520 What we're looking for is does the organization considering an 0:22:05.680 --> 0:22:09.919 entire other group of people, by their inherent characteristics, to 0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:13.399 be lesser. And let me explain because it sounds very general. 0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:17.960 We list, you know, neo Nazi groups because they want 0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:20.960 to exterminate Jews. They obviously consider Jews to be lesser 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:26.840 forms of life. We list um white nationalist groups because 0:22:26.840 --> 0:22:30.560 they consider all minorities to be inferior. You know, um 0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:34.639 big white nationalist groups like American Renaissance right endlessly about 0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:39.920 black criminality or psychopathology, really ugly stuff. But we also 0:22:40.119 --> 0:22:44.480 list black groups because, as far as we're concerned, you know, 0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:47.560 hate is hate, it doesn't matter the race that's involved. 0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:49.840 And for example, we list the Nation of Islam as 0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:54.080 a hate group because their theology meaning they're base ideology, 0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:58.119 argues that all whites, and the key word here is 0:22:58.280 --> 0:23:01.920 all whites, right, all white ball are blue eyed devils. 0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:05.520 In other words, all white people are are Satanic, and 0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:08.960 that gets them on our list. So what we're looking 0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:11.120 for is do you to fame an entire group of 0:23:11.160 --> 0:23:14.919 people um and propagandize against them in some sort of 0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:24.679 deleterious way. That's how you get on our list. The 0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:28.880 reports coming through the intelligence projects, hate watch website, law 0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:32.520 enforcement sources, and media. Then they're vetted to make sure 0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:37.159 that the incidents took place. The reason why this information 0:23:37.280 --> 0:23:40.560 is so important is that hate crimes are meant to silence, 0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:43.879 to cow to make people feel as though they should 0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:48.720 not be seen or heard. It tries to make you 0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:51.840 scared to stand up for yourself and stand up for 0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:54.919 your rights and those of your community. Right and and 0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:59.719 you're already talking about minority groups. When you attack someone 0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:03.200 who's in a minority community, you are trying to say 0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:05.800 to them, you're not part of this society. You need 0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:07.640 to keep your head down, you need to stay out 0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:10.360 of this. And because so many of the cases involved Trump, 0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:13.280 it was almost like punishment from some people who seem 0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:17.600 to think that the way forward is through this kind 0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:21.160 of hate, violence and expressions of hatred. And God knows 0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:23.919 we don't want that in this country. And if you 0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:27.159 think that hate crimes are a minor problem, just sporadic 0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:31.439 outbursts responding to current political ideology, I think again. The 0:24:31.520 --> 0:24:34.520 FBI every year reports about five to six thousand hate crimes, 0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:38.399 and there are billion problems with that reporting system, starting 0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:40.520 with the fact that it's voluntary some states don't have 0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:43.920 hate crime laws, etcetera, etcetera, which is all self admitted 0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:46.800 by the FBI and those collected data. The Department of 0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:49.600 Justice has done three sets of studies looking at survey 0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:53.880 data from crime victims, and those three studies have concluded 0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:55.880 there was one and o five, one and eleven, one 0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:58.600 and thirteen. They've concluded that the level of hate crime 0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:00.919 in the United States is actually about two hundred and 0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:04.880 fifty hate crimes a year. That's in a regular year. 0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:09.800 So the FBI data is grotesquely underreported. And if people 0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:13.439 understood that there's that much hate violence going on, hate 0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:16.640 crimes literally, we would understand that hate in the society 0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:18.760 is a much bigger problem than more aware of, and 0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:22.359 we wouldn't be so surprised with what's, for example, happened 0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:27.679 since the election. The campaign, of course emboldened people with 0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:30.560 views that are racist. That's just a fact. We saw 0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:33.360 hate groups grow over the course of this last year, 0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:38.119 hate forums grow, and so this outburst is a manifestation 0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:41.840 of those emboldened people. But in general, the United States 0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:44.920 has a hate violence problem that it's not really addressing, 0:25:44.960 --> 0:25:47.640 and many people aren't even aware about. And we shouldn't 0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:50.320 be surprised by that, because it's not that long ago 0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:55.560 that black people were by law treated as second class citizens, 0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:58.359 subjected to state violence and all those kinds of things. 0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:05.040 You know, we're talking until the mid sixth So here 0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:09.000 we have a social issue that's vastly underreported and yet 0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:13.560 fueled by the tendrils of social media. We have allowed 0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:17.480 white supremacists to essentially colonize many of these social media 0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:19.919 sites to push out their message, and it led to 0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:25.959 some intense moments of harassment. Some prominent Jewish journalists, you know, 0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:29.480 being tweeted at with pictures of Jews being killed. For example, 0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:36.520 one of the journalists, David French, suffered a personal onslaught 0:26:36.680 --> 0:26:40.000 so chilling that the details read like a horror movie. 0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:43.320 In an interview with MPR, he said, quote, the more 0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:45.960 you are against Donald Trump, and the more that people 0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:48.760 feel like people are reading you or listening to what 0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:51.480 you have to say, then the alt right comes down 0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:55.040 on you even harder because they really are sort of 0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:58.080 like the online shot troops of the Trump movement. I 0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:01.280 mean they are the most aggressive, the most vicious, the 0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:04.560 most threatening, the most targeted. I mean, it was really 0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:08.480 notable how much violence was expressed on social media over 0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:11.479 over the last year. And you know, I know Twitter 0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:14.679 has um cracked down on certain forms of hate speech, 0:27:14.680 --> 0:27:17.240 but it's true that the social media companies essentially don't 0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:20.720 follow their own terms of service on issues of racism 0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:23.480 and anti semitism and harassment and so on. And it's 0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:26.560 not just social media, it's the Internet itself and the 0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:29.720 way it's structured. The more information that's published about something, 0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:32.600 the more it's pushed to the top, no matter if 0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:36.240 the content is incorrect. So, for example, I visit Google's 0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:39.200 headquarters last February to show them that if a student 0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:42.480 were searching Martin Luther King, let's say they're writing a 0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:46.280 paper on him, on the first page of results of 0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:49.280 a Google search on Martin Luther King, third there was 0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:53.760 only one link to a legitimate thing, to a biography 0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:57.560 site about Martin Luther King. Everything else on that page 0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:01.359 was coming from hate sites, and so a student would 0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:03.240 have no clue. They would be reading about how they 0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:05.320 wouldn't hear about Martin Luther King and the amazing things 0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:08.080 he achieved in the civil rights era. Um they would 0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:10.600 be reading about how he was a communist or a womanizer, 0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:14.120 and all kinds of crazy racist stuff. And since nine 0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:17.000 people don't leave the first page of a Google search, 0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:19.520 that's what most people see when they search for him. 0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:22.000