1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Tuesday, January fifteenth on the CW. From the executive producer 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: of The Vampire Diaries and The Originals, comes the incredible 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: story about Making Contact. Get ready for the highly anticipated 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: arrival of the new series Roswell, New Mexico. When Liz 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Orteka returns to her sleepy, legendary hometown of Roswell, where 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: she's reunited with high school crush Max Evans, small town 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: cop with an extraordinary secret. Drawn together as if by 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: some unforeseen force of attraction, Max reveals to Liz that 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,959 Speaker 1: he's an alien who fell to Earth during the infamous 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: UFO Crash of nineteen forty seven from another world. He 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: and his brother and sister have lived their entire lives 12 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: in secret, never telling the soul the truth about what 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: they are or the mind blowing powers they each possess. 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: When Max's family finally finds out that he has broken 15 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: their vow of secrecy, of vents are set in motion 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: that will rock the entire town of Roswell to its core. 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: Don't miss the unbelievable new series Roswell, New Mexico, Tuesday, 18 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: January fifteenth, only on the CW. Now here's a highlight 19 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: from coast to Coast am on iHeart Radio. Ghosts of 20 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: the Civil War. I've always wanted to talk about this situation. 21 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: Tell me a little bit about this. Well, we're talking 22 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: about you know, the most deadly war in American history, 23 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: with you know, at low number six hundred and twenty 24 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: thousand dead. But now we have new research coming out 25 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: that suggests that maybe even up to eight hundred and 26 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 1: fifty thousand people died in this war. Oh my god, 27 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: more than every other war combined. I mean, we lost 28 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: sadly fifty thousand plus men and women soldiers in Vietnam. 29 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: That's a horrible tragedy. Can you imagine eight hundred thousand. 30 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: It's crazy. I mean even World War Two, you know, 31 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: we had four hundred and five thousand or so, and 32 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: you know, if it is eight hundred and fifty thousands, 33 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: that's more than twice as much. It's crazy. Now, one 34 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: did the place is haunted exactly. So when you put 35 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: together the book, tell me the angle that you took. Well, 36 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: I really wanted to. You know, a lot of the 37 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: people who go out and goes hunt and even the 38 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: Civil War buffs, you know, they really know a lot 39 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: about the major major places, like you know, like you 40 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: mentioned Gettysburg. I really wanted to have a place where 41 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: you could go and see even like the smaller things 42 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: like you know where you had these little small clashes 43 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: all over the South, especially in the end of the East. 44 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: And then you had you know, more places that with hauntings, 45 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: you know, family homes. You know, you had a lot 46 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: of loved ones who went away to serve and then 47 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: left behind families and sometimes they didn't come back and 48 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: that you know, that left to you know, grief and 49 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: everything in those houses. So you have so many homes 50 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: that are associated with you know, people who are officers 51 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: in the Civil War and families who are left behind 52 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: and that kind of thing. And then you even have 53 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: homes you know, they are absconded, you know, to become 54 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: like makeshift the old hospitals and things like that. So 55 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: I really wanted to kind of touch on all these 56 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: different layers, you know, your big battlefield, your small classes, 57 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: all the way down to individual homes. Yeah, you look 58 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: at about one hundred and sixty locations, didn't you. Oh 59 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: my gosh, it's it's crazy. I legitimately think that every 60 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: single place that's involved the Civil War has a goh 61 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: story so yeah, hundreds hundreds of places. Did you feel 62 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: the apparitions when you were out there? You know, you can, 63 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: you know, you feel when you go to some of 64 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: these battlefields, you really do feel the weight of everything 65 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: that happened there, you know, you besides the weight of history, 66 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: just walking you know in a place like Devil's Den 67 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: and Gettysburg, or you know, across the cherry orchards at Shiloh, 68 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: when you look around and you think, you know, there 69 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: were thousands of people lying dead here, It's it's hard 70 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: to even fathom even when you're standing there. But absolutely, 71 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: I think you feel the weight of it all. Let's 72 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: talk about the cases that you came across and how 73 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: did you find them? Rich Well, thankfully. You know, us 74 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: ghost hunters, we have quite a lengthy network out there, 75 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: so you know, we have great ghost hunting groups all 76 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: over the country. So I used them, you know, I 77 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: reached out to a lot of different groups and said, 78 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: you know, you know you live in Virginia, tell me 79 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: about some of your local haunts there. And I'd get 80 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: first hand accounts from people, and then I kind of 81 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: went around and looked at some of the work other 82 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: people did a lot of these Civil War parks and 83 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: things are really open with discussing the paranormal things that 84 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: happened there now and even some even go so far 85 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: as to offer ghost tours. So I reached out directly 86 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: to us many different places as I could. Now. Where 87 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: it got kind of tough was getting down to light, 88 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: you know, some of these smaller cemeteries and things like that. 89 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: But you know, I just got out there and beat 90 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: the bushes and you know, talk to people. Any particular 91 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: story that you can relate to us, Oh, my gosh, 92 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: not so many. I'd tell you one of my favorites. 93 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: I mean, I love the you know, the Battle of 94 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: Chickamauga was the second deadliest battle of the war, and 95 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: they have this ongoing tale to this day that there 96 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: was a sort of primordial creature they call him green Eyes. 97 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: If you would wander the battlefields. There were so many 98 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: dead people that they literally believed that it just brought 99 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: forth this horrible like demonic thing that was out there 100 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: to feast on the dead. And to this day you 101 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: have people, you know, they go to Chickamauga and they 102 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,679 Speaker 1: catch glimpses of something with green eyes looking from the woods. 103 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: They hear the sounds of like panting of a beast 104 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: things that touched them, And so there's a little bit 105 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 1: of debate about whether or not it's an actual creature 106 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: or more like a ghost or evil spirit. But you 107 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: know that to me is one of the one of 108 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: the great tales. What would this creature do just wander 109 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: around the battle sites? I think it's I think it's 110 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: one of these sort of variations on the theme of 111 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: a revenants that's, you know, something that's sort of drawn 112 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: by is the dead. And because I guess just so much, 113 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: you know, death happened at this particular battle that this 114 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: creature's still sticking around the area. Chickamauga had over thirty 115 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: four thousand casualties, So I mean, that's a lot of 116 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: dead to be piled in one little small Georgia. Other 117 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: than the green eyes, has anybody described what this thing 118 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: might look like. Yeah, that's where kind of where the 119 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: interesting stories coming in, because you have you know, people 120 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: who just see the eyes kind of believe it's more 121 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: like a spirit and we're just seeing the eyes of 122 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: the spirit sort of roaming the grounds. But there have 123 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: been people who claim more that it's more something along 124 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: the line of a crypted big foot type of a creature. 125 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: The only thing I'd say to that is, obviously it 126 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: would be a pretty long lived creature to be sticking around, 127 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: you know, since eighteen sixty two. But yeah, there's absolutely 128 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: been people who said that they've seen sort of what 129 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: looked like a Harry m back On walking on two legs, 130 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: a type of a big Foot style of a creature. 131 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: What's going on in the world of paranormal investigations these days? Rich, 132 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: Do you go there, for example, with a team or 133 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: you do this by yourself? I usually do it by myself. Um, 134 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: I do have a couple of guys that go with 135 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: me on occasion. Um. I've been touring a lot actually 136 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: with Fuji TV. I'm shooting a show for Japanese television. 137 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: So I've actually been getting some interesting perspective working with 138 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: these guys and seeing, you know, what American haunts kind 139 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: of look like, you know, through Eastern eyes, and it's 140 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: really been pretty interesting. Um. You know, the Japanese take 141 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: the supernatural very seriously, and oh my gosh, and you know, 142 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: we're somewhere, then we're shooting, and then you know, when 143 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: stuff starts happening, you see, you know, their eyes get big, 144 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: you know, and they kind of look around the room 145 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: and everything just kind of gets, you know, a little 146 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: more exciting. And you know, this this cool little balance 147 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: that the Japanese have between the supernatural and also the 148 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: kind of the relationship they still have with their family 149 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: after they're dead and the respect for those that passed 150 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: away is really cool. Do you think because of what 151 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: they went through in World War Two, the two nuclear 152 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: bombs that hit them in Hiroshima, Nagasaki, may have gotten 153 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: them to be as serious as they are about the paranormal. 154 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's definitely a huge impact. 155 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: You know, for today's Japanese people. Um. There are so 156 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: there are a lot of ghost stories still associated with 157 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: those areas um And because of the UM, a lot 158 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: of the older generations, especially in that period, you know, 159 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: had a religion called Shinto where they erect shrines where 160 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 1: they can actually still speak to the you know, deceased 161 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: loved ones and relatives and seek guidance from them. And man, 162 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: you know, when those bombs took out as many people 163 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: as they did, but as much damage as it did, 164 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: and even just the families that were just hurt by 165 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: being you know, relocated to get away from that stuff. Yeah, 166 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: I mean they're still feeling that, you know, with the 167 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: youngest generations today, especially those who practice Shinto and still 168 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: you know, sort of follow those beliefs. What is it 169 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: about some folks who just like to be scared and haunted? 170 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: You know, they go on ghost tons, they you know, 171 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: go to ghost hotels. Why did they like to be 172 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: scared so much? Well, well, I'm gonna have to profess 173 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: that I'm that I'm one of these guys. So yeah, 174 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: oh I knew you were. It's in your blood. Well, 175 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: you know, I think it's the same thing the reason 176 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: that we like horror movies and the same reason. You know, 177 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: it's a lot of people, I think they feel the 178 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: most alive when they're sort of experiencing, you know, that 179 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: little taste of death. You know, whether it's you know, 180 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: through ghosts or through fiction or through horror stories. You know, 181 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: there's that thrill of you know, I'm alive, they're dead. 182 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: But also I think it's you know, you know, that 183 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: thrill too, of wanting to believe in something in the 184 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: afterlife and getting you know, when you start having real experiences, 185 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: it bolsters you know, your opinion that there's something when 186 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: we die, that we have a ghost, that we have 187 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: a spirit or moving on, and that can really be 188 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: you know, invigorating for a lot of people. Do you 189 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: have any doubts about the other side? None? Now, I 190 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 1: can definitely say, you know, I was, you know, when 191 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: I wrote the first book on ghosts and things, I 192 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: was kind of a fence center. And you know, you know, 193 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: I always thought, you know, if I have some experiences, 194 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: you know, I'll look at them objectively and that sort 195 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: of thing. After the books that I've written, in the 196 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: places I've been, I've had so many experiences. I've been 197 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: touched by ghosts. I've heard ghosts. I've been in a 198 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: room talking to a group and a woman should start 199 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 1: laughing in the middle of us. We've had I mean, 200 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: I've seen things, felt things, you know, all these things. 201 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: So no, I have no doubt. But at the same time, 202 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: I also understand when someone tells me that they're skeptic, 203 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: and you know, they they want to wait in the 204 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: future themselves, kind of a situation, and I always tell them, 205 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: you know, the skeptic, you're just one experience away, you know, 206 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: from being just like me. There seems to be a 207 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: trend toward the paranormal. Do you feel that, Yeah, you know, 208 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: I'm actually kind of liking, you know, where the paranormal 209 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: sort of scene is going right now, because you know, 210 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: about five or six years ago, we had so many 211 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: these ghost shows on TV, We had so many sort 212 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: of popularizations of ghosts and ghost hunting that it was 213 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: sort of being shoved into kind of this trivial realm 214 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: where it was becoming just a pop culture sort of 215 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: a situation. And I think that's mostly died, I think 216 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: right now. You know, we've been left with the ones 217 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: who sort of survived all that, and they're the ones 218 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: who are more serious about approaching the subject and looking 219 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: more at scientific method and things we can do to actually, 220 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, help people understand, you know, how the human 221 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: soul works and why maybe some of these people are 222 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: sticking around. Why does the media handle this rich how 223 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: do they handle you? You know, I think it's gotten better, 224 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: you know, like I said, I think I think it 225 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: was really sort of popularized, and these producers would love 226 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: to get their hands on some young ghost hunters and 227 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 1: sort of have them, you know, make things scarier than 228 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: they were, and you know, and they want to look like, 229 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: you know, like there's these tough dudes in their black 230 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: T shirts posing and and I think now we've gotten 231 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: to a good place where we can really sit back 232 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: and kind of look at the history of places and 233 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 1: how that is, how that's associated with the ghosts and 234 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: the stories, and take a more serious approach. 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