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Speaker 1: they gave two years ago Daniel Jones ninety two million

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Speaker 1: to a couple people around college football over the last

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Speaker 1: three or four months. I think a lot of people

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Speaker 1: are skeptical that they can get to a bowl game,

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Speaker 1: very skeptical they can get to a bowl game. Now.

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Speaker 1: The Pac twelve was really good last year and they

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Speaker 1: started getting worked. I don't think the Big twelve is

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Speaker 1: as good, but all these teams are better than this.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people think their line sucks.

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Speaker 1: I think I saw Travis Hunter, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it's on Twitch or something, even made fun of his

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Speaker 1: own offensive line. Travis Hunter is special player. Shador is

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Speaker 1: really really talented. What happens to Dion? Right? Like, if

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Speaker 1: I'm a high school football coach and my kid is

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Speaker 1: gonna be let's just say some elite college prospect and

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Speaker 1: I have him sophomore, junior, and senior year, and we

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Speaker 1: kick ass and take names. Am I a great coach?

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Speaker 1: Or did I just have this unbelievable opportunity with my kid? Now?

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Speaker 1: If I keep winning after he's long gone, then I'm

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Speaker 1: a badass, right. Think about the hurleies that guy's dad

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Speaker 1: won with his kids and one after his kids. He

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Speaker 1: was an excellent high school coach. What does Dion look

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Speaker 1: like after Shador? I don't know, like is he landing

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Speaker 1: these sweet quarterbacks? Only time will tell. I mean, their

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Speaker 1: best player is a guy that he's known forever, considers

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Speaker 1: his son, and was able to flip from Florida State.

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Speaker 1: And when I see all these people and listen, I've

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Speaker 1: always liked Deon. I root for Deon. Some of the

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Speaker 1: stuff with him and his kids talking shit to the

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Speaker 1: kids on Twitter was I don't mess with that. But

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Speaker 1: I appreciate Dion going pads in practice Dion eight. I

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Speaker 1: think people think he's like this kind of super progressive

457
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Speaker 1: dude because he's on social media. He's pretty old school,

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Speaker 1: and I appreciate that about him. But one, his team's

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Speaker 1: not good enough, and two what will look like after

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Speaker 1: he loses two guys one's literally a son and the

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Speaker 1: other guy is essentially a son who have a chance

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Speaker 1: to be you know, Travis's gonna be a top ten

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Speaker 1: pick and Shador he could either be a top five

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Speaker 1: pick or he could who knows, but he's gonna get

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Speaker 1: drafted relatively high, even if things go average. But this

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Speaker 1: notion that like, oh, Dion's not gonna be a Colorado

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Speaker 1: long So you're telling me, let's say Dion, let's say

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Speaker 1: this year wins five games, so they go five and seven,

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Speaker 1: doesn't make a Bowl game. So he's been at Colorado

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Speaker 1: two years, never won more, never gone five hundred. He's

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Speaker 1: just gonna go to the SEC. He's just some acc school.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna hire him. That's not usually the

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Speaker 1: way it works now, maybe because he's so famous, but

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Speaker 1: I have a hard time seeing that. I do think

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Speaker 1: for him to get a legit job, you know, let's

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Speaker 1: just say an Auburn, you know, if Norvell would have

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Speaker 1: gone to Alabama, Like you do need to hire these

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Speaker 1: programs want guys to win, and I just d one

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Speaker 1: one at the HBCU. But last year like a long

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Speaker 1: way to go. And I think the way he's played

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Speaker 1: it with the portal, I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's a giant fugazi quite yet. But

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Speaker 1: I don't think this year is gonna be that good.

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Speaker 1: I really don't. I think the max is five wins,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think it's inconceivable he has one of

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Speaker 1: those four or five wins seasons. Again, he's clearly not

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Speaker 1: gonna win like one game, but if he wins eight,

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Speaker 1: remarkable coaching job, and the SEC school should hire because

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Speaker 1: his team's not nearly as good as all these other programs.

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Speaker 1: So he's about to be playing for a top level

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Speaker 1: program like Georgia, Alabama, Michigan Texas. Do you view the

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Speaker 1: new playoff format as an advantage or a disadvantage for

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Speaker 1: their chances to win the Natty? I could go either way,

494
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Speaker 1: but it seems like the twelve team playoffs for these

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Speaker 1: teams are almost guaranteed to make the bracket. Then once

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Speaker 1: they are in, talent coaching takes over. As an example,

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Speaker 1: last year, Georgia missed the fourteen playoff but could have

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Speaker 1: easily won it all. I think it's kind of a

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Speaker 1: double edged sword. Right, You're right about Georgia. They easily

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Speaker 1: could have won the Natty. It is definitely easier to

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Speaker 1: be in the mix now because the last ever since

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Speaker 1: the four team playoff, if you've got a couple losses

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Speaker 1: by the end of October, you're in major trouble. And

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Speaker 1: most times, like there hasn't been that many two lost teams,

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Speaker 1: So getting into the final four is really difficult. Look

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Speaker 1: at the NCAA tournament, it's not that hard to make

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Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament. It is very, very challenging to make

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Speaker 1: the final four. Making the final four is a massive accomplishment,

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Speaker 1: right because winning four games in the tournament is hard.

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Speaker 1: But let's face it, sixty four really sixty eight teams,

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Speaker 1: it's not very difficult to get in the dance and now,

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Speaker 1: like you said, the teams you listed, I would say

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Speaker 1: the top seven eight programs, it's a major disappointment if

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Speaker 1: they ain't dancing, and that'd be Georgia, that'd be Ohio State,

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Speaker 1: that would have been Michigan with Jim Harbaugh. Want to

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Speaker 1: see how this guy is as a full time head

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Speaker 1: coach now Texas, the way they're recruiting LSU with Brian Kelly,

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Speaker 1: I think USC Oregon are going to be under that umbrella.

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Speaker 1: Florida State, Clemson like anything less than a playoff Berth

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Speaker 1: is a disaster, but it's football, man, And this is

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Speaker 1: what makes the sport so much like the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 1: You have one bad game, you have one bad half

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Speaker 1: for your quarter quarterback throws a pick six and fumbles,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you're like, holy shit, it's

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Speaker 1: twenty eight to seven late in the third quarter, like

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Speaker 1: we're the three seed, they're the nine seed. We're in trouble.

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing with the what makes this sport

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Speaker 1: so unique. It's one game. It's sixty minutes, and anything

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Speaker 1: can happen. So it's college sixty minutes. Pretty sure I'm

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Speaker 1: blanket some remote, but yeah, I think it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: difficult to win the national championship. I think this if

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Speaker 1: you got to the final four before, you had a

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Speaker 1: pretty good idea, like George's got a pretty good chance,

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Speaker 1: Michigan's got a pretty good chance. Now you get a

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Speaker 1: buy if you're one of those top seeds. So there's

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Speaker 1: a big difference of getting the buy and having to

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Speaker 1: play that first weekend. But I have to go back

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Speaker 1: and look, you get home games now, which is an

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Speaker 1: advantage before the final four. So I would say it's

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Speaker 1: more challenging anytime in football. The more games you have

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Speaker 1: to play, the harder it is. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: it's that's pretty simple.

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Speaker 1: Love your podcast, lit'st do it while I Run. If

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Speaker 1: all thirty two teams were empty and you had one

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Speaker 1: season to compete for Super Bowl and you could any

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Speaker 1: player in NFL history in their prime. Who's the first pick,

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Speaker 1: who's the first five or ten picks? How many picks

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Speaker 1: would there be before a non quarterback like LT is taken.

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Speaker 1: Depends what rules we're playing in. If we're playing in

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Speaker 1: seventies eighties rules, you could take LT in the top ten.

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Speaker 1: You could take a Reggie White, you know whoever, me

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Speaker 1: and Joe Green, the great players on defense of all time. Hell,

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Speaker 1: you could take Walter Payton or Barry Sanders or something.

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Speaker 1: If we're playing today's rules, the modern game, I think

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Speaker 1: it's you know, Brady Peyton, Farv Marino, Elway. This isn't

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Speaker 1: in order, right, Montana, Steve Young Rogers. I might already

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Speaker 1: said him, Mahomes, Josh Allen, I think quarterbacks are flying.

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Speaker 1: I think if you go like nineteen eighty seven rules,

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Speaker 1: I'd take LT. I think he'd be in the mix.

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Speaker 1: You know, Aaron Donald, I think these guys would get

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Speaker 1: drafted really really high. But that's a huge caveat to

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Speaker 1: the whole thing. You could argue just if you know

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Speaker 1: what you're doing as a team builder, and it's picked

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Speaker 1: seven and Dan Marino's on the board or Lway, how

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Speaker 1: do you not pick them. I understand the NFL continues

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Speaker 1: to have more games overseas each year to grow the

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Speaker 1: company and the game. What do you think about the

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Speaker 1: NFL playing a few neutral site games here in the

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Speaker 1: US and potential future expansion cities like San Antonio, Saint

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Speaker 1: Louis in Oklahoma City. I don't think Oklahoma City's ever

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Speaker 1: getting an NFL team, maybe potentially getting one game a

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Speaker 1: year in Hawaii to bring the NFL back to the Islands.

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Speaker 1: Keep crushing it. I think the international games in theory

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Speaker 1: have a big picture business element to it, right, So,

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Speaker 1: whether you agree or disagree, they feel there's a value

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Speaker 1: of playing in Germany, of playing at Wembley of I

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Speaker 1: don't quite see the value. But playing in Brazil. I

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Speaker 1: understand Mexico City, it's one of the biggest cities in

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Speaker 1: the world. They used to play in Japan. I think

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Speaker 1: preseason games. If you're gonna play in America and I'm

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Speaker 1: an owner of a team, there is no way on

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Speaker 1: God's green Earth, I'm not playing in my football stadium.

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Speaker 1: It's not happening international. It's out of my control. I'm

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Speaker 1: a league partner, but like, why do I care? I'm

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Speaker 1: not playing a game in Oklahoma City. If I'm the

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Speaker 1: Giants or I'm the Rams or the Niners, under it's

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Speaker 1: a non starter. So the league office has juice, but

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Speaker 1: ultimately the owners are in charge, and it just put

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Speaker 1: yourself in their shoes. Would never do it. You could

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Speaker 1: argue do something like, if you're Cleveland, the Browns or

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Speaker 1: the Lions, why wouldn't you play a game? This would

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Speaker 1: be pretty cool, like at the Shoe Or if you're

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Speaker 1: the Lions at the University of Michigan, I could see

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Speaker 1: doing something like that. If you're New Orleans, play a

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Speaker 1: night game at LSU on Sunday night, right, if you're

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Speaker 1: one of the Florida teams at Florida State or Florida,

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Speaker 1: like I could. I doubt that would ever happen, but

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Speaker 1: like that's less crazy. The Rams, remember they played a

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Speaker 1: game at the Rose Bowl against the Chiefs, which is

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Speaker 1: pretty cool. That's that's conceivable. But going outside of your

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Speaker 1: market to these random cities that aren't getting a team,

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Speaker 1: they're just not. And listen, I don't feel bad for

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Speaker 1: Saint Louis. They stole the Rams. The Rams were LA's team.

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Speaker 1: You stole them and you got a jacked. Right. If

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Speaker 1: you end up marrying someone who had cheated on their

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Speaker 1: significant other and then ten years later they cheat on

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Speaker 1: you like kind of on you, I have little remorse.

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Speaker 1: I have. I have more understanding when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the Raiders situation. Oakland's team, even though they left to

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Speaker 1: LA they came back to Oakland and then they went

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Speaker 1: to Vegas. Like, I get their animosity toward the league

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Speaker 1: and the whole situation. I don't the zero zero feelings

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Speaker 1: towards Saint Louis. Sorry, give it to me straight. Niners

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Speaker 1: back in the Super Bowl this season. Well, they're clearly

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Speaker 1: one of the best teams in the league. The AUX

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Speaker 1: situation is kind of their only problem. I guess Ricky

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Speaker 1: Piersoll I haven't seen the update, but was somehow injured

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Speaker 1: not training, which is never ideal. But overall, let's look

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Speaker 1: at their competition. Who is the I would say the

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Speaker 1: Eagles and the Lions have the best rosters beside the

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Speaker 1: Niners in the NFC, and both teams should be playoff teams,

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Speaker 1: and the Niners have played them both the last couple

639
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: of years. They played the Lions in the NFC Championship.

640
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: They played the Eagles two years ago when when Perdy

641
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: got hurt. They played the Eagles last year in the

642
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: regular season, developing a little rivalry there. Cowboys feels like

643
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna take a step back in the Niners fucking

644
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: own Dallas. Uh. I think the Packers are a team

645
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on. They easily could have beat

646
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: the Niners in the playoffs. So I would say in

647
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: the Rams, while the Niners have mainly owned them, that

648
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: Rams team, the way they were playing, that feels kind

649
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: of like the crew that could give the Niners a

650
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: run for their money. And this is back to the

651
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: comment about the college football playoffs. Football man like Kentucky

652
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: or Virginia or Purdue, Like sometimes you just get knocked

653
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: off in the first round. Last year, I thought the

654
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: Cowboys are pretty good. Then the Packers beat the crap

655
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: out of them. I almost put at the time that

656
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: would have been an healthy amount of money when the

657
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: playoffs started on the Packers to win the Super Bowl. Like,

658
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: I just think they're the best team in the league.

659
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: I think this is one Rogers gets number two and

660
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: then Tom Brady beat him in the NFC Championship game.

661
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: Now you could argue, did he get too conservative? In

662
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: that game. Did Lafleur screw up when he kicked the

663
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: field goal? Obviously we can argue till we're blue in

664
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: the face, But that type stuff, historically, that's what happens

665
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: in football. You know, that's that's how it works. So

666
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: I would say there's no lock to be in the

667
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: super Bowl, but I know anything less than that's going

668
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: to be a disappointment into that. They have no business

669
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: not winning. I don't know, twelve plus games, and if

670
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,959
Speaker 1: you win twelve plus games, you put yourself in position

671
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: out the number one seed, which is a huge advantage.

672
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: Why do major talk show shows never talk about my Seahawks?

673
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: Is it because we're tucked in the Northwest or what?

674
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: And what do you think about the playoff chances with

675
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: the new staff? Well, I think you're not quite as

676
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,479
Speaker 1: sexy as you once were. Remember, you guys got talked

677
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: about a lot when Russell was on the team. It

678
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: was a major conversation point for talk shows, for podcasts,

679
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson was discussed a lot why he was a superstar.

680
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: And when you have a superstar quarterback and your teams

681
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: in the playoffs every year, New Slash you get talked

682
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: about but Gino Smith, like, I can't open shows with

683
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: Gino Smith. Now, Mike McDonald your new coach, elite defensive coordinator,

684
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: I mean he was a badass. Ryan Grubb, your new

685
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, has been incredible in college, never coach in

686
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: the league. So I think there's some question marks. Do

687
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: you have a talented team. I don't think it's inconceivable

688
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: you're in the wild card mix. I don't think I'm

689
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: gonna pick you, but it's not because I don't respect it.

690
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 1: You have one of the best gms in the league.

691
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: Your fan base is awesome, But I think star quarterbacks

692
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: moved the needle. It's just, really it's kind of that simple,

693
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: and when you had one, you got to discussed a lot.

694
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: Question for the golf mail bag. I'll answer Ray here.

695
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: Doesn't the PGA's non compete rule actually empower live to

696
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,439
Speaker 1: steal golfers? It seems to me if the PGA would

697
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: allow live golfers to compete on the tour, they would

698
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: take away the exclusivity of live to many of the

699
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: top players. Sure, we might not see Bryson twenty five

700
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: times a year on the tour, but we might see

701
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: him ten to twelve instead now it's just the Majors

702
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: live would be even more relevant than it already is.

703
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts, Dan in Lakeville, Minnesota. Well, eventually

704
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: this whole thing's gonna come together. But I think the

705
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: huge mistake the PGA Tour made and j Monahan the commissioner,

706
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: If this was the NFL or this was basketball and

707
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: he had made a decision like he made to ban them,

708
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: I think he would have been removed. But because it's

709
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: golf and it's just a different world, he somehow still survived.

710
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: And I think that was a catastrophic decision. It really was,

711
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: and like you said, it led to a lot of

712
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: these guys going. But now it's too late. I mean

713
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: they're gonna be whether they merge next year, in the

714
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: next two years, it's already kind of over. But yeah,

715
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 1: that was a I would say any leader in any business,

716
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: any person that's a decision maker in any role in

717
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: a company, you get tasked with some decisions that are

718
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: bigger than others. And when you screw up on little

719
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: decisions whatever, like if I pick a topic that doesn't

720
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: really work, or a segment that a lot of you

721
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: guys don't like, whatever I do five of these a week.

722
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: But if I made a decision to, you know, put

723
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 1: this behind a paywall, and it backfired, like it could

724
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: derail the show, right, And that would be a huge

725
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 1: decision because it's the lifeblood of my business. You people listening,

726
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: and and I think that he made a decision on

727
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: the lifeblood of his business, which is the players and

728
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: the star power of six seven guys, that that defected

729
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: and it backfired tremendously. I've been a diehard fan since

730
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 1: the seventies Super Bowl. This is gonna be pretty embarrassing,

731
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: but I'm not quite up with my Roman numerals. I

732
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: guess it could be four was my first memory? Is

733
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: the V five? Maybe that's nine? Either four or nine.

734
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: I listen or watch NFL content unless it's outright poor.

735
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,479
Speaker 1: I used to watch shows like Get Up and First

736
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: Take every morning. I'm retired, but I can barely watch

737
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 1: Get Up and I'm completely done with First Take. Why

738
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: is twenty five percent of Get Up and fifty percent

739
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: of First Take focused on a team that hasn't made

740
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: the conference finals? I think he means championship, but in

741
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: thirty plus years, while the team that has been to

742
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: six straight conference championships, and as the most exciting player

743
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: in the history, barely gets any coverage, not to mention

744
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: the other thirty teams. Uh, thirty two. Maybe he's got

745
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: mixed in basketball and football here, but I think he's

746
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: talking about the Cowboys. I get the Dallas has the

747
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: largest fan base, but seriously, do the suits not see this?

748
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: What am I missing? This business because of the technology

749
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: is not that complicated. So when you do a segment

750
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: on TV, on podcasts, on YouTube, the metrics you get

751
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: it's the power of all these streaming services when they

752
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: run a series. It's when they run live broadcasts. The

753
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: information that they could get is stuff. When I worked

754
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: in radio, the way they equated terrestrial radio, the way

755
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: they just were able to figure out the ratings were

756
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: by like fifteen to twenty meters. When I worked in

757
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 1: the Bay Area in the San Francisco market. I don't

758
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: know how many people are in the general market, but

759
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: it's a top five to six market in America, and

760
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: it's based on May. Maybe it's a little more in that.

761
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: Maybe it's like thirty or thirty five just meters in

762
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: a car and when they listen to your station, you

763
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: get credit. It was one of the biggest fugazis in

764
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: the history of the world. I remember when I got

765
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: out of it, I'm like, they're fucked because this is

766
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: an all time fugazi that is complete BS. And when

767
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: I started my first podcast, I remember talking to some

768
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: of these advertisers. I'm like, they are ripping you off,

769
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: like this this is a joke. Now. Part of it

770
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 1: is to be associated. You know, if a radio station

771
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: has the Yankees or the San Fransco Giants or the

772
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, I get it, but they're rating. They

773
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: have no clue and I mean no clue who's listening. Well,

774
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: all this stuff now we know exactly who's listening for

775
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: every second, every minute, every day, and where you're listening

776
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: the city, I mean the zip code probably if we

777
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 1: wanted to dive deep the neighborhood. And they know when

778
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 1: they talk cowboys, it not only works, it really works.

779
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 1: As you know, I don't talk that much. I don't

780
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: do this, but I'm not doing the show like they are.

781
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: If you're on television, like an extra one hundred thousand people,

782
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: when it comes to advertising, is pretty important. I mean

783
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: it's important in this show, it's important to any show.

784
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: But I think it's just based on the metrics. I

785
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: don't think it's that complicated. The reason they talk to Lakers,

786
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: the reason they talk to Yankees, the reason they talk

787
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: to cowboys is not because all these people give a

788
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: fuck that much. They truly don't. It's because you have

789
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: to for business, and ultimately you're in the business of

790
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: getting the most people to watch. And I've always taken

791
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: kind of the approach, And maybe this is why I

792
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 1: guess my care is a little slower bleed than trying

793
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: to just talk cowboys every day. Is I want to like,

794
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: I'm just doing what I like to do now. Also,

795
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: I'm not, but I'm not a little engine that could guy, Like,

796
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: I'm not going to talk about things that bore me.

797
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: And sometimes little stuff kind of bores me. And maybe

798
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: some of you get mad at and talking about some

799
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: of your markets. But I'm a big market star guy.

800
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: But I'm with you the cowboys, Like, I'm not opening

801
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: up every day talking about McCarthy and Dak But I

802
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: get why people do. Like I understand why the Lakers

803
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: get talked about all the time. They have the biggest

804
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: fan base by far, and when they're on TV, the

805
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: most people Watch's why they talked about the Warriors like

806
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: the Lakers over the last ten years, because there have

807
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 1: been only been two teams in the NBA the truly

808
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: rate old school wise Steph Curry and Lebron James and

809
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: the Lakers. You throw on the Celtics. It ain't the

810
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: same ratings down and they got superstars. So this formula

811
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: is pretty basic most people that watch. That's what you

812
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: should do, especially on television. It's why Colin's television show

813
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: or his podcast based on The Herd sounds a lot

814
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: different than when me and him talk. It's just a

815
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 1: different medium and the way they equate things more important

816
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: to do it a certain way. Cowboy fan from South

817
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: Africa always wanted to go there. I think I have

818
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 1: to think I'm gonna go there one time for sure. Actually,

819
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: my actually my grandparents, well before I was born, had

820
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: gone on a safari I think in like the seventies

821
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: and one of the people in their safari party got

822
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: a little too close to a body of water and

823
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: that was all she wrote because the crocodile got that person.

824
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a guy or girl,

825
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 1: and it was an older person and they went by bye.

826
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: Into that crocodile's belly. Jerry may have his critics, but

827
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: the Cowboys had a net prophet a five hundred and

828
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: fifty mil last year. For those of you non business majors,

829
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: net profit means the money after expenses are paid pretty good.

830
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: The closest team was three hundred million. They were three

831
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: hundred million more than the closest team. They're too big

832
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: to say a f them picks like the Rams and

833
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: potentially suck for years. All I'm trying to say is

834
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: they're making way more money now sucking than they did

835
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 1: hosting Lobardes. From a business standpoint, why risk it? Well,

836
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: they don't suck. They don't suck at all. Three straight

837
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 1: years of twelve wins in a row. How many teams

838
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: would have signed up for that? Eighty percent the league?

839
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: Now this playoff they've sucked in the playoffs, but they

840
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: have not sucked. They've been really good. They've won the

841
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: division two years too out of three years, so they've

842
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: been good. And if you're good in the regular season,

843
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 1: meaning you're making the playoffs, that's important because, like you said,

844
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: for your bottom line. Back to the last question, the

845
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: Cowboys are the biggest thing in America in terms of sports.

846
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: They're bigger than the Yankees. They're bigger than the Lakers

847
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: because the NFL have the biggest sport in America bio

848
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: pretty wide margin, and they are the biggest brand. Yea,

849
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Speaker 1: they just have the most fans. I mean, they just do. Listen,

850
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Speaker 1: the Packers and the Steelers are massive brands and they're

851
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Speaker 1: in smaller markets. Why because they were good fifty years ago.

852
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 1: So when you develop generations of fans, like that's pretty important.

853
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 1: Like why are the forty nine ers such a big

854
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: brand for the NFL? Well, they started. The first time

855
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: they were really good was like nineteen eighty one. It's

856
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, so they had twenty years of being good.

857
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Speaker 1: In the last fifteen years they've been good a lot.

858
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: So that's generation after generation. That's important. But I do

859
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: think Jerry's trying and like, ultimately his downfall has just

860
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: been as quarterback sucked in the playoffs period, point blank industry.

861
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Speaker 1: As an Eagles fan, I obviously would probably rate Jalen

862
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Speaker 1: Hurts higher than the average fan, probably around five behind Mahomes,

863
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Speaker 1: Alan Jackson, and Burrow. Why do you think other people,

864
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Speaker 1: maybe such as yourself, would rank him as one of

865
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Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks, wouldn't rank him as one of the

866
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in the league. And the Super Bowl he

867
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Speaker 1: played the second best of all the quarterbacks behind Nick

868
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: Foles and played better than Mahomes in it. He just

869
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 1: beat Josh Allen in a crazy overtime game where Jalen

870
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: absolutely carried the Eagles to that victory and was an

871
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: MVP favorite for the majority of the past two seasons. Well,

872
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: he wasn't the MVP favorite last year. But I hear

873
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Speaker 1: what you're saying. I think part of it is he

874
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: was really good two years ago. He lost his offensive coordinator,

875
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: and you watched him last year and he didn't feel

876
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: like the same guy. Obviously turned the ball over a

877
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: bunch toward the end of the season. It wasn't obviously

878
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: all his fault. The defense. The secondary was looked like

879
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: me and you out there. I think most people consider

880
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: him a top ten quarterback, and at the end of

881
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Speaker 1: the day, depending on how you've played late lee, if

882
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: you're a top ten, guys the difference of nine and six.

883
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: But if you gave me, like, let's just do some

884
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: with this, would the Rams trade him straight up for

885
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. No. Now, the Eagles wouldn't do that deal either,

886
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: because Jalen's way older forty nine ers. Would Kyle trade

887
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: him for Rock Perty, No, Eagles would say no as

888
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: well the Lions. You could argue Jalen Hurts a better

889
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: player than Jared Goff, but I don't think the Lions

890
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 1: do that deal. So, like when you start talking about

891
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: those other guys, like those other guys are in a

892
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: different category because when you start talking those trades like yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

893
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: I think is a big year for Jalen. It is

894
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: good player, high character guy, works his ass off. There

895
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: have been some stories out there that he's not vocal enough,

896
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: but I think it's a big year for him. I

897
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: really do, because part of being a great player is

898
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: doing it over and over and over. Say what you

899
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: want about Cousins and Dak, they have been doing it

900
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: for a while, consistently flawed, never gonna be a top

901
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: five guy, but like every year, kind of know what

902
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 1: you're getting. Okay, last question, you've discussed that link now

903
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: the important of ownership in the league, and I agree.

904
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: I'm a Bronco fan and I learned that the Walton

905
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: Penner ownership is by far the richest in the NFL

906
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 1: seventy seven billion dollars. You know what's funny, as I

907
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: whenever I go in the sauna, I try to listen

908
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: to a book on tape, but it's not really on

909
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: tape because on an iPhone and I bought made in America.

910
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 1: The Sam Walton story, it is crazy like the Walmart

911
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 1: I know. And how big and dominant is his story

912
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: back in the fifties and sixties, probably more of the

913
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: sixties and seventies of building up that company. If you

914
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: like business and you like stories from scratch, it's a

915
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: fascinating listen. He has a net worth of three times

916
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: that of the number two family. The Hunts are were

917
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: twenty five. Greg Penner, the team's CEO and husband of

918
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 1: Ann Walton, Rob's daughter, has already spent five hundred million

919
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: of their own money on facility upgrades. He was walking

920
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: on the field in twenty two with one game left

921
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 1: and thought the turf looked rough, so he spent four

922
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: hundred k out of his own pocket that the grass

923
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: replaced for the last home game. When we've been eliminated

924
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: from the playoffs since Week five twenty two, is a

925
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 1: rough year for you guys. My question is this, how much,

926
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,959
Speaker 1: if at all, does the extreme wealth matter? More specifically,

927
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: how can this capital be deployed knowing that his wealth

928
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: is largely compromised of highly liquid Walmart stock to make

929
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: the team better on the field. Well, it's weird, right

930
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: because the salary cap. Everyone has to follow the same rules.

931
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: The NFL is a hard cap, so that number is

932
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: two hundred. If it's too forty, if it's two to fifty,

933
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: this isn't the NBA. You can't go above it and

934
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: pay a luxury text because if you could, they would

935
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 1: benefit a lot. So you're hard capped. Where it does

936
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: work in the next couple of years when they kind

937
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: of siphon off that Russell contract on their books. If

938
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,959
Speaker 1: we're both offering a player in free agency, let's say

939
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars and Sam Walton or not Sam Walton,

940
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: but the the Walton Penner Group goes, we'll give you

941
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,959
Speaker 1: fifty million guarantees, five year deal for one hundred million dollars.

942
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: I'm just picking even numbers, So five years, one hundred

943
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: million dollars, fifty guaranteed, but that guaranteed, I'm gonna give

944
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: it to you all an assigning bonus. Next week, I

945
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: will wire fifty million dollars into your account, where the

946
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: other team was like, we're gonna your bonus was going

947
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 1: to be twenty two million dollars, So I will double

948
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,919
Speaker 1: the bonus because I got more cash on hand. That's

949
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: really where it benefits. Ultimately, facilities in the NFL, no

950
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: one cares because I'm getting paid to play. So if

951
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: you got the best facilities in the league and some

952
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,919
Speaker 1: other team offers me five more million dollars a year,

953
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: I don't care. It does not matter. You think Travis

954
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 1: Kelce or Patrick Mahomes give a shit about the stools

955
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: or the chairs in the locker room the same college

956
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: like facilities are a little overrated, though I give teams

957
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 1: credit for investing in it. Why would you not is

958
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 1: your business. These are your players. But I think it's

959
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: more the structure of the contracts and the cash on hand.

960
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: Paying guys is where you can really separate and the

961
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: signing bonuses and coaches. They want to Sean Payton, the

962
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: gave him ninety million dollars. They want other coaches. You know,

963
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: I saw Jim Leonard is now prominent defensive coordinator or

964
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: defensive staff member. He probably ain't making two hunder grant.

965
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: So it's like Jim's like, I don't know, if I

966
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 1: really want to coach, We'll give you a three year

967
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: contract at one point five million dollars a year. Hell,

968
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,439
Speaker 1: we'll pay you like a defensive coordinator three years, three

969
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: million dollars a year. Here's a nine million dollar contract.

970
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: So to me, it's coaches and contracts with players, specifically

971
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: free agents, being able to land them and keep guys right.

972
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 1: But ultimately the cap and the draft capital, everyone's on

973
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,959
Speaker 1: the same playing field. That's what makes the NFL cool.

974
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: It's not like the difference of the Yankees and the

975
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: Oakland A's right or Campa Bay Race. It's everyone has

976
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: the same amount of money in terms of to abide

977
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: bye with the players because of the contract media deals

978
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: from the league. But the coaching staff is huge, or

979
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: training staff or some of the you know kind of

980
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: the doctors associated with your team. That that type stuff

981
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 1: is really big. Appreciate everyone reaching out. Like I said

982
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff Instagram, fire into those dms. Always open,

983
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: take your questions whenever, Uh, We're gonna really get into

984
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: it moving forward and the season can't wait have a

985
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 1: great weekend. Last show of the week, The Volume