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Speaker 1: Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio and partnership

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Speaker 2: Welcome home, y'all.

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Speaker 1: This is episode one hundred and twenty six of native

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Speaker 1: Land Pod, where we give you our breakdown of all

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Speaker 1: things politics and culture. Today, I am your host, Pacari Sellers.

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Speaker 1: I'm an exhausted host. I've been all around the West

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Speaker 1: Coast shouting out those game Cocks and the UCLA Bruins

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Speaker 1: and the Women's Final four, and shout out to Phoenix

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Speaker 1: for being a grace great host city. But today I'm

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Speaker 1: joined by my co host Andrew Gillam, Angela Rye, and

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Speaker 1: along for the ride today is one of the most amazing,

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Speaker 1: a amazing journalist that we've ever had on our show,

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Speaker 1: just an amazing being, none other than Aaron Haynes, who

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Speaker 1: is president of the National Association of Black Journalists. I

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Speaker 1: want to get into that a little bit too, because

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Speaker 1: I know that this task is probably one of the

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Speaker 1: larger ones that you've ever done. She's the founder of

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Speaker 1: one of the most amazing sites that we've ever done,

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Speaker 1: and raised money and did all of those great things.

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Speaker 2: We've ever done. It like what you did. Well, First

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Speaker 2: of all, I mean we as in donors, we as

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Speaker 2: in doors.

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Speaker 3: We love a donor.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Welcome to the show. None other than Aaron Hayes.

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Speaker 2: Tell them what they can find you. I was thinking,

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Speaker 2: then you all interrupted.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we didn't interrupt, you know, he's money speak to itself.

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Speaker 5: Hey, I'm sorry, but Cary buried the lead here. She

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Speaker 5: is also a machete.

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Speaker 6: I'm so sorry, but you very a very important affiliation

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Speaker 6: to know.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. It's going to be home, folks. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Welcome home, Sis, welcome home. Where can I find you?

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Speaker 2: Where can I find you? Before we get started?

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Speaker 3: I mean nineteenth news dot org. We encourage all of

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Speaker 3: you to read and support. It's free, by the way

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Speaker 3: to do that. Also, so my line about the Nineteenth

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Speaker 3: we are the premiere line, the premiere destination for information

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Speaker 3: on gender politics, power and culture. So you can if

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Speaker 3: you want to stay informed, h and you want honest

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Speaker 3: and accurate information about where we are and who we

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Speaker 3: are as a country, the Nineteenth is where you should

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Speaker 3: read and support and share. Let me see where can

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Speaker 3: you find me Instagram? I'm at e marvelous. Come for

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Speaker 3: the memes, stay for the news. Oh, I guess a

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Speaker 3: little blue sky action when I remember to do it.

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Speaker 3: Aaron Haynes a new habit that I'm trying to come on,

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Speaker 3: but I'm not quite there yet, so y'all help me out.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, you know, I love our listeners and viewers

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Speaker 5: to tell Aaron how important it is as the president

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Speaker 5: of the National Association of Black Journalists, the brand she's

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Speaker 5: built the journalism career. She's had to be known as

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Speaker 5: Aaron Haynes on social and not E Marvelous. You guys

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Speaker 5: just know that's an inside and fight, so away in

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Speaker 5: and be on my site.

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Speaker 3: And thee and the machete is out is out?

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Speaker 2: Keep it?

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, I didn't even know we were. Yeah, do

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Speaker 1: you miss marvelous?

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Speaker 2: I just want people don't know.

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Speaker 6: Her full government. Put some respects on my sisters.

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Speaker 4: They got it.

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Speaker 1: Well, they do well. Just for the record, they do know.

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Speaker 1: They do know that she represents Atlanta all the time

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Speaker 1: and natural the Lemon Pepper queen down there. But I

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Speaker 1: want to remind people that we do have an upcoming

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Speaker 1: be there at the City Winery at seven thirty on

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Speaker 1: the evening of April twenty. First, you can get your

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Speaker 1: Native Lamp Pod City Winery, Atlanta, and.

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Speaker 2: I look forward to being there.

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Speaker 1: I love being in Atlanta, and I know we're going

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Speaker 1: to sell out and all my fans are gonna be there,

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Speaker 1: and hopefully y'all bring some supporters to Angela.

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Speaker 6: Well, here's a common thing.

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Speaker 5: So y'all know that there is a more house versus

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Speaker 5: Rattler fight, and I really I really want to see.

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Speaker 5: I want to see the battle. I want to see

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Speaker 5: the bat. No, no, no, it's a competition. It's a competition.

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Speaker 5: Everything we do right as a competition. Aaron, if you

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Speaker 5: are through, are there? You should I thought you were.

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Speaker 5: What I'm saying put in order for.

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Speaker 2: You. I got that. I got that.

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Speaker 3: I think he's trying to make a pit stop a detour. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm clear, Turkey legs undefeated. I'm just pointing that out.

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Speaker 2: I never had exactly.

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Speaker 3: I think you're talking about something else.

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Speaker 2: Is that name or y'all?

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Speaker 1: If if Turkey, yeah, moving along. If I'm not paying attention,

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Speaker 1: y'all just understand that it's spring breaking to sell us household.

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Speaker 1: And Sadie is now over here asking for her block.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, yeah.

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Speaker 5: Because you can't hear us not in those headphones, and

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Speaker 5: the think.

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Speaker 2: About it to bed because we didn't do your hair still.

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Speaker 5: Is not paying attention today. It's because you can't cure us.

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Speaker 1: But before episode, but first of all, the last twenty

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Speaker 1: we always air and like to do something, which you know,

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Speaker 1: we've gotten all these headlines from the nineteenth and everywhere

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Speaker 1: else that we find to be important, and we decided

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Speaker 1: to take and steal some of that for our show.

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Speaker 1: We just call it UH. Angela has named it UH.

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Speaker 1: It's exquisitely long.

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Speaker 6: Name, so confused every time for your government.

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Speaker 2: For your situation, I associate it.

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Speaker 4: I have kids just the other week at home.

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Speaker 1: It's disordering, So why why is why is it named this?

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Speaker 2: Angela?

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Speaker 5: For your situational awareness is a government term like F

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry I did it the other way where you

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Speaker 5: For official use only, there's f Y I you know

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Speaker 5: it is to let people know this is the situation

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Speaker 5: and because there are so many situations happening at the

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Speaker 5: same time. Andrew just used a good word disorienting for

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Speaker 5: spring break, but try being disoriented in your country every

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Speaker 5: day because your president is always so sorry?

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Speaker 6: Can you believe.

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Speaker 2: Around? Nick?

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Speaker 5: I said, I'm sorry, but I just I don't know

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Speaker 6: And uh, yeah, let's start into it because you're sorry.

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Speaker 1: You're right, because we're gonna start right now with our

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Speaker 1: President of the United States, Donald J.

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Speaker 2: Trump, is losing. Let's let's start right there. On Easter.

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Speaker 1: On Easter, your President of the United States decided to

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Speaker 1: say Tuesday will be power plant Day and bridge Day.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what that means, all wrapped in

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Speaker 1: one in Iran utilities. Yeah, I know there will be

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Speaker 1: nothing like it. Open the straight, you crazy bastards, or

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Speaker 1: you'll be living in hell. Just watch Praise Be to

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Speaker 1: Allah Donald J.

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Speaker 2: Trump. So, uh, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think the president is lost. That I know we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about it on the on the Largest Show. But

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Speaker 1: that's that is an Easter tweet. Is not really what

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Speaker 1: I'm used to it. That's not my Easter speech. That

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Speaker 4: It's put the tweet back up because I believe that

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Speaker 4: is Easter at five.

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Speaker 5: Oh what yeah, True Social Nick, if you can't put

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Speaker 5: the post back up. We talked about this on my

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Speaker 5: solo pod on Tuesday, also reading the same True Social

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Speaker 5: post as well as his follow up posts and all

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Speaker 5: of the Trump acolytes who now want to be clutching

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Speaker 5: their pearls, like the Akas and Trick Daddy. So this

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Speaker 5: is very fascinating to me that this is a thing and.

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Speaker 6: They're confused because we've been k to who he was.

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Speaker 6: We've never been confused.

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Speaker 1: Just as a major caveat any statements made today about

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Speaker 1: the a Ka's, please attribute those to the heart of

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Speaker 1: angela ride not for car sellers.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, my mother is an AKA. You know, I have

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Speaker 5: black friends.

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Speaker 3: Black friends, that's the new slogan for this show.

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Speaker 7: I have.

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Speaker 2: But I have definitely got one because.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yes, I do think though, like we're not

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Speaker 3: just seeing like a personality whatever. I mean, Like this

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Speaker 3: alarmed me about well, there were many alarming things about

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Speaker 3: that that that post. But like we've seen him do

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I just wonder what the line is for

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Speaker 3: for that as well.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if anybody informed Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: But the between this tweet and this post, whatever your truth,

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Speaker 4: because that's a lie. I don't know what you is

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Speaker 4: that what you call his post on his platform truth? Okay,

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Speaker 4: so the propaganda starts in name everybody, And as I

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Speaker 4: do with most things donald Trump, I simply invert whatever

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Speaker 2: The exact opposite. It's probably true.

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Speaker 4: And in this case, Donald Trump needed to be informed

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Speaker 4: by his attorneys. I guess that would have been Pambondi,

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Speaker 4: who God Blanchet, he was his personal one, so he's

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Speaker 4: the right one. God Blanchett has told him that, mister President,

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Speaker 4: this simple act of making these statements, even if you

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Speaker 4: never follow through, is a violation not only of the

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Speaker 4: Geneva Accords, of which we are signatories, but also of

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Speaker 4: US Code, US law, which means you can be prosecuted

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Speaker 4: in the United States.

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Speaker 2: I mean obviously supreme his as well. Guess what, there

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Speaker 2: will be a president after him. Well, and what's true

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Speaker 2: about it is that this man has got to be

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Speaker 2: held accountable.

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Speaker 4: The hit that we've taken. I had not I really

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Speaker 4: had nerves about Donald Trump. I mean, I've been angry,

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Speaker 4: but I haven't been like in a position whereas it

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Speaker 4: was like God, they what how is this.

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Speaker 2: Thing going to play out?

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Speaker 4: You know, and prayerful about it, like God, please intercede,

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Speaker 4: protect these people, protect us, so on and so forth,

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Speaker 4: because the mayor really did, you know, ratchet this thing

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Speaker 4: up to a level that is, at the base level irresponsible,

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Speaker 4: but if we were to take it further, he was

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Speaker 4: establishing a new normal for.

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Speaker 8: All of the all of the diabolical players in the

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Speaker 8: world to now basically, you know, point to this city

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Speaker 8: upon a hill the moniker for what the global democracy

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Speaker 8: is supposed to look like, responsibility, adult behavior and if

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Speaker 8: America is doing it, who are they?

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Speaker 1: And also saying that this this is we're going to

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Speaker 2: By the way, you can tell Aaron and I want

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Speaker 2: to get into it.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of our black friends, everybody's family member, everybody's aunt,

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Speaker 1: And what makes this rivalry, Well, all of this stem

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Speaker 1: Nick, because you can't see it from you can't see

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Speaker 5: I think we should look at so initially, Gino put

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Speaker 6: Don Saley's name.

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Speaker 6: They shouldn't have put this up on that page.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, after poor poor before, can.

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Speaker 5: We just say, even even after that, Don's statement about

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Speaker 5: I don't know why Bokari is talking in this picture.

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Speaker 2: I was, I was four or five six, So that's.

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Speaker 6: What we got that. Hey, well let's take that down.

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Speaker 3: I'm straight to the comments on this one, straight to

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Speaker 5: I want to I do want to go back, if

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Speaker 6: I spoke with Gino, and I want to.

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Speaker 5: Be clear, I have a great deal of respect for

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Speaker 6: To this game, one moment doesn't define a career.

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Speaker 5: And it doesn't change the impact he's had on growing

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Speaker 5: So I'm asking everyone to turn the page. Let's refocus

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Speaker 5: it's not changing. Don Staley the.

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Speaker 6: You know how a response to somebody wants.

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Speaker 3: I mean, but she kind of has to because I mean,

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Speaker 3: look for Gino Arima that don Staley continues to conduct

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Speaker 3: It's not okay for her to be treated that way.

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Speaker 3: It's not okay for any any black woman to be

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Speaker 6: But if they do, I will beat Gino's ass well.

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Speaker 1: Lessen if you want to, if you want to join

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Speaker 1: us Machetes and All, I'm taking Andrew Gillim as my guest.

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Speaker 1: The Tuesday before Thanksgiving will be a Mohegan signed for

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Speaker 1: Universe South Carolina versus Yukon all over again.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a battle.

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Speaker 1: Also down at the casino down in Seminal hard Rock

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Speaker 1: Wrapper Rap rock set on Monday apparently had a bad day.

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Speaker 2: He got shot in the clappers.

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Speaker 1: I've never heard anybody describe it as that, but that

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Speaker 6: Is that what I like?

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Speaker 3: Said that that was a shot in the clappers.

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Speaker 1: It was not.

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Speaker 3: That was not in the a story that you are

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Speaker 3: posting here. Clappers.

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Speaker 6: That's a former Migos wrapper Offset iss Stable. I thought

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Speaker 6: he got shot. Casino spokesperson said, they said.

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Speaker 2: He got shot in clap.

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Speaker 3: Who was that?

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Speaker 2: Somebody? Maybe stars of all.

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Speaker 3: I don't like it.

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Speaker 4: The cloud could be a butt on somebody and there

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Speaker 4: for others, it could be these that scrub.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't thank you anything that claps.

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Speaker 2: That's that's Oh. I bet you never heard the term.

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Speaker 1: You haven't, Okay, well maybe that's me. I'm in these streets.

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Speaker 5: You've heard this from the hood.

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Speaker 2: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 6: Offset?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 6: What happened? A lot of money.

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Speaker 1: I'll set this fine. I'll set Offset has a little

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Speaker 2: Uh did you shoot himself? No, he didn't shoot himself.

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Speaker 1: He got into a little battle with the rapper named

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Speaker 1: Little t J, who I'm not that familiar with from

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Speaker 6: They said he didn't shoot him.

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Speaker 2: He said he didn't shot him. Said he got into

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Speaker 1: The police report actually says he actually says that Little

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Speaker 1: t J. Uh, Little TJ saw Offset Offset.

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Speaker 2: Owed him some money.

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Speaker 1: He had his group go out and attack Offset. Offset

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Speaker 1: fought back and then it's walking away. Was shot in

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Speaker 1: the Clappers three.

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Speaker 6: Y'all got to see this.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry we I noted y'all got to see Little

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Speaker 3: You know, is exactly where rapper Offset was shot after

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Speaker 4: Local tens and crime specialist Bridget Matter is joining us

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Speaker 4: live right now. To all the NP listeners out there,

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Speaker 4: We just know we thought we it was.

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Speaker 2: Heavy all around the world, so some levity.

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Speaker 6: Can't go a Little TJ. Look at Little TJ.

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Speaker 3: This is rapper Little TJ binding shout out to Day Afternoon.

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Speaker 10: At the casino onset money.

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Speaker 11: The rapper's real name is Tyne Merritt. He was at

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Speaker 11: Hollywood's Hard Rock Hotel and Casino Monday night when rapper

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Speaker 11: Offset was shot. He told local ten cameras some of

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Speaker 11: his account of what happened.

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Speaker 10: Shot me shut mel, this is a rat cap.

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Speaker 6: Sorry.

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Speaker 11: According to Semino police, there was some sort of fight

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Speaker 11: and a shooting at the valet area outside. Two people

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Speaker 11: were taken into custody, but no other details were made available.

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Speaker 11: Offset both a whopping twenty three point eight million followers

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Speaker 11: on social media, with more than seventeen million Spotify listeners monthly.

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Speaker 11: He was married to well known rap artist Carti b

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Speaker 11: Offsets rep confirms he's in stable condition and is being

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Speaker 6: Can you, I don't know, will touch.

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Speaker 11: Me, his lawyer said in a statement, Little TJ has

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Speaker 6: Can you you played the when it's just twenty seconds?

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Speaker 6: It's the last one I said, I'm sorry, is the

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Speaker 2: The last thing I seen was looking at me like

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Speaker 2: this shot me?

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Speaker 1: Shot me?

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Speaker 9: Right?

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Speaker 1: I don't don't know.

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Speaker 2: Damn did I shoot crazy? They're saying you were disorderful.

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Speaker 3: I will say he would never play with me like that.

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Speaker 2: And he's like somebody.

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Speaker 1: Say money, Say well, all I wanted to do is

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Speaker 1: highlight left because that's a big news story and TMZ

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Speaker 1: of course has all of it for some reason. And

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Speaker 1: uh Rapper all said was having a bad day. Who

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Speaker 1: else we found out about was one of my American heroes,

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Speaker 1: a great American hero, a black American poet from Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: none other than Gucci Mane. We found out about Gucci

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Speaker 1: Man and Poosh Heisty. Poo Shisty got arrested last week

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Speaker 1: and federal charges for kidnapping Andrews face rapper, rapper Andrew.

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Speaker 2: Who on Because I'm hosting, I want to make sure

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, because just because my problem is that Poos

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Speaker 1: The little the mask you know, the mask that the

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Speaker 1: little that the that the young people wear that they

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Speaker 1: call him the Shisty, the Shistyes, he had great hits. Anyway,

444
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 1: he robbed one of our heroes, Gucci Man, while he

445
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Speaker 1: was on house arrests for a federal gun crime.

446
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Speaker 2: And uh this Ishi Maine was was conditioned at home.

447
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: Where he stay now. Push Iisty was conditioned at home.

448
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Speaker 1: Gucci Man has.

449
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Speaker 4: Been free ten years and even at home, he was

450
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Speaker 4: able to rob.

451
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Speaker 2: Correct He left, He left and went out.

452
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Speaker 1: They were the problem was that he was he was

453
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Speaker 1: on the he was on Gucci Man's label. They had

454
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Speaker 1: a label dispute and in order to get out of

455
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Speaker 1: that label, he raised what the kids call a draco

456
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Speaker 1: and made Gucci Man sign a release. Edie took his

457
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Speaker 1: wedding ring, he took his ear rings and some other

458
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Speaker 1: jury while on house arrest, not making it the smartest

459
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Speaker 1: decision in the world. In better news though, Andrew by anyway,

460
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Speaker 1: it's Gucci Maine, Main Maine.

461
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Speaker 5: Yes, and I don't know why he be talking about Gucci,

462
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Speaker 5: man like he not a country. He understands.

463
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Speaker 2: I know who Gucci is.

464
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Speaker 5: We all got, But did you say why he got

465
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Speaker 5: why they tried to rob.

466
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Speaker 2: Him because of the religious city, tried to get out

467
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Speaker 2: of his contract.

468
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Speaker 6: I apologize, I didn't hear that part.

469
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Speaker 1: And apparently thinks that you know, you could just to

470
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Speaker 1: release and get out. But it takes lawyer, somebody signing

471
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Speaker 1: a sheet of paper with a gun to their head.

472
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Speaker 2: I don't think that really works.

473
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Speaker 1: Anyway to make you smile.

474
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Speaker 2: To know not.

475
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Speaker 3: He says, why am I in it.

476
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Speaker 2: To make Andrew smile?

477
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Speaker 1: We also we also have astronaut victim Lover sharing some

478
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Speaker 1: profound words as artimist.

479
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Speaker 6: The best part.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, Andrew, smile.

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Speaker 9: You know I don't have anything prepared. I I I'm

482
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Speaker 9: glad you brought that up, though, I think these observances

483
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Speaker 9: are important and as we are so far from Earth,

484
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Speaker 9: and looking back at you know, the beauty of creation.

485
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Speaker 9: I think that for me, one of the really important

486
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Speaker 9: personal perspectives that I have up here is I can

487
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Speaker 9: really see Earth as one thing. And you know, when

488
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Speaker 9: I read the Bible and I look at all of

489
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Speaker 9: the amazing things that were done for us who were created,

490
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Speaker 9: it's you have this amazing place, this spaceship. You guys

491
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Speaker 9: are talking to us because we're in a spaceship really

492
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Speaker 9: far from Earth, but you're on a spaceship called Earth

493
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Speaker 9: that was created to give us a place to live

494
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Speaker 9: in the universe and the cosmos.

495
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Speaker 1: Think maybe the distance we.

496
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Speaker 9: Are from you makes you think what we're doing is special,

497
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Speaker 9: But we're the same distance from you, and I'm trying

498
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Speaker 9: to tell you, just trust me, you are special. In

499
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Speaker 9: all of this emptiness. This is a whole bunch of nothing,

500
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Speaker 9: this thing we call the universe, you have this oasis,

501
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Speaker 9: this beautiful place that we get to exist together. I

502
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 9: think as we go into Easter Sunday, thinking about, you know,

503
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Speaker 9: all the cultures all around the world, whether you celebrated

504
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Speaker 9: or not, whether you believe in God or not, this

505
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Speaker 9: is an opportunity for us to remember where we are,

506
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Speaker 9: who we are and that we are the same thing,

507
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Speaker 9: and that we got to get through this together.

508
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Speaker 2: I just want to I want people to show.

509
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Speaker 1: I want people to know the type of symmetry we

510
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Speaker 1: have on this show, which is Native Land. Because you've

511
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Speaker 1: had the Poetry Tree and the great poets we just

512
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: talked about offset Gucci Man, and now this poetry that

513
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Speaker 1: we just heard, I mean Victor Glover, I mean that

514
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Speaker 1: that is I mean poetry saying that.

515
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Speaker 3: Gucci Man is the next person set to go into

516
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Speaker 3: space and travel around the Moon. I think I heard

517
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Speaker 3: that someone.

518
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Speaker 5: Now what we try not to do on this show

519
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Speaker 5: is frick I mean this information, but I think.

520
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Speaker 6: He's been to before.

521
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Speaker 3: Maybe he just saw some space bank. I don't know,

522
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 3: but I do. I do want to say though, like

523
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 3: that was beautiful. Obviously what possibility looks like, representation matters.

524
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Speaker 3: But I'm looking at this black man, first woman to

525
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Speaker 3: travel around the moon. We can do this, We can

526
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 3: do Can we solve racism? Can we can we address

527
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Speaker 3: systemic inequality? And like what's going on on Earth. Very

528
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 3: amazed at what is happening in space, but like that

529
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Speaker 3: really is a reminder of what we do when we

530
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Speaker 3: put our mind to something what we're able to accomplish.

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Speaker 1: But let me also tell you, let me tell you

532
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Speaker 1: my theory about this, uh miss Aaron, is that.

533
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Speaker 2: It's not on black people. We got a lot of burden.

534
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Speaker 3: It's not that's not on him or on uh on

535
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Speaker 3: on Christina Cox, the first woman who is who is

536
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Speaker 3: also on this artemist mission like it is, what can

537
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 3: the rest of us? What can the rest of y'all?

538
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Speaker 3: I guess I should say be doing to address the

539
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Speaker 3: challenges that we have here on earth to steal me?

540
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Speaker 4: You know, I think that's fair point, Aaron. And I

541
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Speaker 4: think part of what he was there to do, aside

542
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Speaker 4: from captain the ship, I think he I think he's

543
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Speaker 4: he was the captain of the ship.

544
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Speaker 2: Is that right? Do we know? You might have just

545
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 2: made that up, but that's okay, No, I think he is.

546
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: But anyway, listen.

547
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Speaker 3: He is a black man, in which means he did

548
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Speaker 3: a lot to.

549
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Speaker 2: Get there, the first advan to travel that far from Earth.

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Speaker 4: So I will say this, I think in part he

551
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Speaker 4: oh Lord Ankle bracelets back to Miami as a captain.

552
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 2: He is the captain. Okay, I got it right.

553
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 4: But the point I wanted to make is that I

554
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Speaker 4: think sometimes.

555
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: Okay, sorry, I think he's the captain. Whatever he is.

556
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 4: He's either Captain such and such or he is the captain.

557
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 4: But either way it's a privileged and honor But but

558
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 4: but but what I think part as we all know,

559
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 4: all four of us know this, the burden around this

560
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 4: healing often falls to us in the form of acceptability politics.

561
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 4: This this adjacency to success and adjacency to power, adjacency

562
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Speaker 4: to rare experiences that are of honor, of positions of

563
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 4: honor and dignity. And when you get there, you're oftentimes

564
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 4: rolled out there as the person who then the white

565
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 4: listenership or white viewership where the racism problem in this

566
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 4: country resides, and not exclusively there, but predominantly there. They

567
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 4: didn't get to see you and say, oh, they're all

568
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 4: not the same. Oh there is difference, and there is diversity,

569
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Speaker 4: because where I live, the people who look like that

570
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 4: all do such and such and such. I think it's

571
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Speaker 4: dis I think it's deplorable that people can be that

572
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 4: simple minded, can be that. As my daddy used to say,

573
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 4: don't be simple, signed don't be simple, which is by

574
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 4: my standard, the worst insult you could get from your daddy,

575
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 4: because that was just basically, don't be dumb. But so

576
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 4: often we find ourselves having to carry that burden, even

577
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 4: though we didn't create the problem, and we're not the

578
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 4: ones who are the cure to the problem, but were

579
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Speaker 4: oftentimes treated not only like the.

580
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Speaker 2: People who who.

581
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Speaker 4: Made the mess, and also the maids who have to

582
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Speaker 4: come behind to clean the mess up. And I just

583
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Speaker 4: I'm proud for that brother, because I hope he feels

584
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Speaker 4: pride and what he is doing and in this moment

585
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 4: of relief he's given us here on earth where it

586
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 4: feels like hell. But I also hope that that he

587
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 4: has relieved himself, given this status and what he's achieved,

588
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 4: from the burden of having to be the acceptable.

589
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 3: Or exceptional.

590
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: Or exceptional.

591
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Speaker 1: And I think that's a natural segue because I wanted

592
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Speaker 1: to talk about our resident plumber UH Secretary, Mark Wayne Mullen,

593
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: who was able to go from being we always have

594
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Speaker 1: to be that much more talented, run that much faster,

595
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Speaker 1: jump that much higher, but Mark Wayn Mullen was just

596
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Speaker 1: able to be Mark Wayn Mullen.

597
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Speaker 2: And now he's.

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Speaker 6: Throwing I didn't say.

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Speaker 4: I didn't say t her bish her when you start with, we.

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Speaker 5: Didn't get to start with Tad.

601
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Speaker 2: We're not We're not, We're not.

602
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Speaker 1: Mark wwaynemull and threaten to stop processing international travelers and

603
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Speaker 1: sanctuary cities. Let's go to this clip so we can

604
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Speaker 1: understand what this means and how they are affecting you.

605
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Speaker 12: I'll be real honest with you.

606
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Speaker 2: I don't think setuary cities.

607
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Speaker 13: Are legal.

608
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Speaker 2: If cities are going to sit.

609
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Speaker 14: There and say that they're not going to enforce immigration policies,

610
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Speaker 14: then I'll repeat myself and say it doesn't make any

611
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Speaker 14: sense for us to process.

612
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Speaker 3: That international travels from travelers through that city.

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Speaker 5: Now, let me tell y'all something with this supersmedium vest

614
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Speaker 5: he got on Mark Way Mullen, nobody cares about what

615
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 5: you think should be illegal. Like that is the whole

616
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Speaker 5: problem with this administration. They keep trying to recreate fantastical

617
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Speaker 5: laws and I'm not here for it. Like what that

618
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Speaker 5: will do to travel to American travel is a nightmare.

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Speaker 6: These airlines are.

620
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Speaker 5: Already hurdy, the customers are already hurting because they're trying

621
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Speaker 5: to inflate airfare because of oil prices, and now this

622
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Speaker 5: full is trying to re route flights outside of sanctuary cities.

623
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Speaker 5: Mind you, we're talking about the biggest air forces.

624
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Speaker 6: In the country. Those are what would be sanctuary cities.

625
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 5: We're talking New York, La, San Francisco, Seattle, Hello, the

626
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 5: big probably biggest airport.

627
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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, well the Dallas probably not. What is the Dallas?

628
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Speaker 6: I mean, I know Dallas is a big airport, but

629
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Speaker 6: is it.

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Speaker 4: The more I'll just say as it form mayor, most

631
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Speaker 4: cities back when I was serving in twenty eighteen, decided

632
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 4: not to overtly classify themselves as sanctuary, which there is

633
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 4: no universal definition, by the way, So he's got a

634
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 4: first define what a sanctuary city is the language.

635
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Speaker 6: First sit his dumb ass down. That's what he needed

636
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 6: to do.

637
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: First, you mentioned them trying to ben laws. They're not

638
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: trying to. They don't care about laws.

639
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Speaker 4: It simply is this is what I want and go

640
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 4: get it done. This is what I want, make it happen,

641
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 4: or this is what I want and this is how

642
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 4: it should be.

643
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 2: And so I'm going to operate as if what I want.

644
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 4: Is howhich is what it's supposed to be, and then

645
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 4: you're gonna be held accountable for not doing what it

646
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 4: is that I want.

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Speaker 3: They are and also I mean me, I mean, you know,

648
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 3: what does it mean for staying on to see if

649
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: you staying on the moon. What does it mean for

650
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 3: folks to see this, you know, see that press conference,

651
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 3: to see that clip. Folks that are watching this, who

652
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 3: may be abroad, who may be thinking about coming to America,

653
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 3: they see that, they say, well, I'm not coming here.

654
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 3: I'm not flying into New York, I'm not flying into Philadelphia,

655
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 3: I'm not flying into Los Angeles. So I mean we're talking.

656
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Speaker 2: About Americans returning.

657
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Speaker 3: I mean, like people are thinking about that's the party.

658
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 3: I think like this the chilling effect that this could

659
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Speaker 3: have on travel, you know what, forget about whether it's

660
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 3: legal or not, or whether they can do it or not.

661
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 3: Like the message that people receive is, oh, I don't

662
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 3: need to try to come here because I'm not going

663
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 3: to get in here. What does that mean for tourism

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Speaker 3: in some of these cities? Like this is this is

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Speaker 3: affecting people's livelihoods as well.

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Speaker 1: But again this is this is truly politics. It's not

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Speaker 1: safety because I think and I want to push back

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Speaker 1: on what Angela was saying, what all of you were

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Speaker 1: saying earlier, because there is this belief that sanctuary cities

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Speaker 1: are just blue. There's this belief the sanctuary cities are

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Speaker 1: just black, and they're not. There are sanctuary cities in Iowa,

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Speaker 1: there's sanctuary cities in Kansas. There's sanctuary cities in Nebraska.

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Speaker 5: They got international travel. I'm talking about places with international travel.

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Speaker 5: The reason why I said blue. Okay, what's a major

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Speaker 5: city that's got internet, I mean that that's not.

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Speaker 6: Uh got a.

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Speaker 5: Democratic mayor that has international hasnational.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't have the FAA up here.

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Speaker 6: But I disagree with me, but I'm just taking it.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just telling you that some people out here

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Speaker 1: believe that only sanctuary cities are blue.

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Speaker 2: And what I'm pushing back on is not.

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Speaker 5: What I was trying to say that I was talking

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Speaker 5: about the major cities with international travel.

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Speaker 6: My bad. I see what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: And I established though that there is no universe definition

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Speaker 2: for this.

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Speaker 6: I hear that too, but but so so.

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Speaker 4: In other words, you cannot just create a word with

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Speaker 4: no definition and then hold people accountable for intruding on

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Speaker 4: your belief of what a sanctuary city is. Even cities

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Speaker 4: that call themselves sanctuary, they may be referring to a

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Speaker 4: religious affiliation and not having to do with a person's

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Speaker 4: status of immigration. I mean, these are these these are

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Speaker 4: I know I'm sounding technical, but it is technical because

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Speaker 4: you can't create laws that give you know that without definition.

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Speaker 3: I just don't know that that's the point, that the

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Speaker 3: point is to create a law.

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Speaker 2: I know that's not their point.

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Speaker 4: I know that's not their point, but but my point

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Speaker 4: is is we don't have to capitulate to their point.

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Speaker 2: The point is is that I'm.

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Speaker 4: A city where if as a mayor, my job is

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Speaker 4: to welcome anyone who comes and encourage them to spend money,

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Speaker 4: stay as many nights in our hotels and b and

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Speaker 4: b's and all that other stuff as they want to.

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Speaker 4: But cities are not paid, are not funded to do

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Speaker 4: the liaisoning work for border patrol and immigration. Those budgets

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Speaker 4: are hefty enough. In fact, they got the largest budget

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Speaker 4: of all federal law enforcement agencies in the in the

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Speaker 4: in the country, what fourth most funded uh uh force

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Speaker 4: in the world. So I'm saying, and I was the

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Speaker 4: mayor who said this as well, Listen, if you if

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Speaker 4: you have money that comes attached to the duties and

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Speaker 4: responsibilities that you now want me to redirect our local

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Speaker 4: law enforcement away from keeping the peace in my city

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Speaker 4: to now doing the job that you're in it you

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Speaker 4: seem incapable of doing. But we, the local taxpayers, are

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Speaker 4: paying for them, but getting a lower level of service

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Speaker 4: for all the things that we need for our city.

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Speaker 4: And we're already understaffed in our law enforcement. No, no

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Speaker 4: city wants to take that burden on, nor should they.

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Speaker 2: When the constant when the when the.

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Speaker 4: Federal statutes are very clear about where that responsibility lies,

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Speaker 4: and it lies with the federal government period it. And

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Speaker 4: he's not being honest about what he's asking. What they're

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Speaker 4: really asking is that if you encounter an immigrant when

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Speaker 4: you do a pullover, please check their papers. Well, we

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Speaker 4: are not a check your papers society. You got your license,

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Speaker 4: you got your registration. Those are the papers we want

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Speaker 4: to see. But can you prove to me your status

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Speaker 4: here in this country? Are you a US citizen? Are

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Speaker 4: you on a visa? Are you visiting?

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Speaker 2: Are you notister? What's your status?

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Speaker 4: That's not our law enforcement, local lawenforcements responsibility, and if

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Speaker 4: you want it to be, fund us pay for it.

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Speaker 1: Also along those same lines, before we jump into something

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Speaker 1: along those same lines before we jump into a longer topic,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about democratic fool's goal, but also

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Speaker 1: some inroads that Democrats can take from Last Nights or

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Speaker 1: Tuesday Nights race in Marjorie Taylor Green's congressional seat where

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Speaker 1: Republican Klay Fuller wins that race and he.

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Speaker 2: Won with yeah, he won, buy what is this about?

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Speaker 2: Ten points? Now?

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Speaker 1: That's yeah, ten twelve points so and what and he

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Speaker 1: took he took twenty points off Trump's margin of victory

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Speaker 1: in that same area. I call it fool's goal because

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Speaker 1: there are actually people out there who donated a ton

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Speaker 1: of money to races like this and others around the

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Speaker 1: country when we have to be very clear eyed about

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Speaker 1: the fact that a Democrat wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Going to win that seat.

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Speaker 1: Although I do like Democrats challenging every place, putting our

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Speaker 1: message out every place. And you see that there is

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Speaker 1: some chipping away of Donald trump stranglehold not just on

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Speaker 1: the on the Republican Party, but Donald trump stranglehold in

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Speaker 1: this country.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it's loosening that stranglehold that that once existed

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Speaker 4: for him, I think, or at least they thought, is

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Speaker 4: absolutely loosening. And the value I think bocary to competing

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Speaker 4: in these places. That by the way, we all should

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Speaker 4: know that Marjorie Taylor Green's congressional district and twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: six that's this year is ranked by Cook Political Report

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Speaker 4: as the most Republican congressional seat in the entire country.

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Speaker 4: It was always the most conservative in the state of Georgia,

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Speaker 4: but it is now the most conservative seat crazy and

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty six. And so to have a candidate who

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Speaker 4: then has the margin of victory that Donald Trump had

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Speaker 4: just two years ago, a year less than two years

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Speaker 4: ago in that same state, we're now building the muscle

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Speaker 4: discipline of turning these voters out even in elections where

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Speaker 4: it is highly unprobable for a Democrat to overcome a Republican.

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Speaker 4: And guess what that means In a state like Georgia,

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Speaker 4: where we have a US Senate seat that is also up,

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Speaker 4: we need to continue to close these margins. And I

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Speaker 4: think these special races are giving us frankly repeated confirmation

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Speaker 4: that at the very least, states like Florida that Donald

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Speaker 4: Trump may have won by ten points or twelve points

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Speaker 4: are now in play. When you can see that people

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Speaker 4: are willing to swing by fifteen points or more away

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Speaker 4: from the President.

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Speaker 1: Andrew, Let's jump right into it, because I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of that has to do with the bullshit that

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Speaker 1: we see from Trump. When we talked about his mental acuity,

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Speaker 1: we talked about what he said on Easter Break, and

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Speaker 1: that decline we're seeing it on true social night in

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Speaker 1: and night out. Kamala Harris put made a statement recently

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Speaker 1: on ex and Twitter about the Iran war in response

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Speaker 1: to Donald Trump, and people are now actually looking at

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Speaker 1: the way that they perceived the general election in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four versus what is actually happening here. Kamala Harris

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Speaker 1: at the president of the United States is threatening to

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Speaker 1: commit war crimes and wipe out a whole civilization, all

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Speaker 1: because he started a disaster's war of his own making

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Speaker 1: and had no plan and no strategy on how to

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Speaker 1: end it. I mean, but that's what we were telling people,

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Speaker 1: was it not. I mean, that is where we were.

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Speaker 1: And I think that both Democrats and Republicans, the Democrats

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Speaker 1: who who were sitting on the sidelines, who were you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of death by a thousand cuts, Kamala Harris and

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Speaker 1: those Republicans who were out there campaigning for him, were

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Speaker 1: out there doing the work for him. We're starting to

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Speaker 1: see now that that stranglehold is breaking, because yes, we

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Speaker 1: have a president on the decline, and whether or not

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Speaker 1: it's war, gas prices, grocery prices, were just asking non

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Speaker 1: comments he makes on social media.

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Speaker 2: We're starting to see that unravel. I think I just.

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Speaker 5: Want to point out that Kamala Harris laid out a

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Speaker 5: blueprint for exactly what would happen. Many of us, I think,

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Speaker 5: felt this intuitively new from when he served his first term,

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Speaker 5: understood this based on his history. And I'm bringing this up, Andrew,

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Speaker 5: because we had a conversation our production meeting, and I

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Speaker 5: would love for you to share some of what you

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Speaker 5: talked about earlier around us continuing to set up this

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Speaker 5: it's Donald Trump versus Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 6: Kamala Harris was right, and there.

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Speaker 5: Are many of us who feel like she was right

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Speaker 5: and were angry that you dummies, needed to actually go

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Speaker 5: to war. Was there needed to be this much bloodshed,

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Speaker 5: There needed to be this kind of impact on the economy,

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Speaker 5: There needed to be this many black women out of work.

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Speaker 5: For you to understand what she was saying the whole time.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll just say I don't know that they I

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Speaker 4: don't know that they've been brought to understand what it

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Speaker 4: is that she said. I don't think they know what

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Speaker 4: she said on the campaign trail, I really don't. I

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Speaker 4: think no more Foreign Wars was really a harbinger for

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Speaker 4: we want out of everything that in America and everything

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Speaker 4: that ain't about my block, my street, my community, my

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Speaker 4: suburban or rural area, my work, and what advantages should

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Speaker 4: inure to me and to my children. Everything else was

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Speaker 4: white noise out there. Trump at least check those boxes,

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Speaker 4: but he checked the most critical one, which was he

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Speaker 4: was a white man. And even now is the reason

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Speaker 4: why for everyone's transparency sake. I said to Angela during

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Speaker 4: our call that I didn't know that Commaloss quote was

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Speaker 4: the one we wanted to sort of bookmark a juxtaposed

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Speaker 4: to to to Donald Trump because it gives this I

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Speaker 4: told you so kind of thing. And I felt the

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Speaker 4: same way about Jesse Jackson's funeral. You know, it's sort

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Speaker 4: of like I tried to tell I think you could

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Speaker 4: have told us and their choice. If not, Trump still

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Speaker 4: would not have been her. For many of them, it

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Speaker 4: would have been the bench, the couch, staying home, you know,

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Speaker 4: not participating. And I want to give people the opportunity

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Speaker 4: I think we ought to try to give people in

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Speaker 4: the spirit of additive math we all out of, I think,

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Speaker 4: be in the spirit of trying to see if these

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Speaker 4: folks who made terrible mistakes at the ballot box can

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Speaker 4: this next time around make her better decision for themselves

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Speaker 4: and for their futures. And know that Donald Trump and

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Speaker 4: empowering him even further with no checks and balances is

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Speaker 4: a bad move.

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Speaker 2: It's a bad look.

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Speaker 4: It's a bad look for your wallet, for your gas tank,

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Speaker 4: for your grocery stores, for your dry cleaning, and anything

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Speaker 4: else between here and death that you have to be

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Speaker 4: able to afford.

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Speaker 2: I want them to be able to have that opportunity.

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Speaker 4: And I fear that if it is always going to

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Speaker 4: be juxtaposed to what the other choice could have been,

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Speaker 4: that we aren't creating the kind of math that we

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Speaker 4: need in order.

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Speaker 2: To secure the victories that we must have. I disagree

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Speaker 2: with you.

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Speaker 3: Well, let me just say, I mean, I love this.

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Speaker 3: What y'all, what all of y'all are saying, is so important.

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Speaker 3: That's why this show matters so much, Because all this

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Speaker 3: is connected, Like none of these stories are existing in isolation.

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Speaker 3: Like we are talking about power, We're talking about who

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Speaker 3: has it, We're talking about how they use it, We're

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Speaker 3: talking about who it impacts. And I mean, even just

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Speaker 3: going back to the Clay Fuller or Sean Harris race,

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Speaker 3: like winning this this Marjorie Taylor Green seat, like a

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Speaker 3: black Democrat was not supposed to be in a special

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Speaker 3: election runoff stops right and so that he comes within

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Speaker 3: eight thousand or so votes in this district. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Georgia is continuing to be a proving ground for where

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Speaker 3: the country is politically right. And I do think that

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Speaker 3: these races aren't just about who wins. I mean, I

881
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Speaker 3: hear what Bakari is saying, but they also tell us

882
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Speaker 3: what kind of coalition is actually holding. I think the

883
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 3: conflict in Iran is showing some of the fractures in

884
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Speaker 3: that kind of coalition. That race in particular, I mean,

885
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 3: you have two folks with military backgrounds who I mean,

886
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 3: this was a central issue in that race, and so

887
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 3: whether the energy that we saw in recent cycles is

888
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 3: shifting or sustaining, Like this is the kind of race

889
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Speaker 3: that is going to show us that, especially looking ahead

890
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Speaker 3: to the midterms, looking ahead to the twenty twenty eight

891
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Speaker 3: of it all and how we think about this and

892
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Speaker 3: just the Kamala Harris Donald Trump juxtaposition that y'all are

893
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 3: talking about. Like, yes, Kamala Harris said many of the

894
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 3: she foreshadowed many of the things we're hearing her say that.

895
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 3: She said that on her book tour. She just said it,

896
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 3: you know, in this and you know she's pointing out

897
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 3: again you know that she's raised this. But like with

898
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 3: the exception of the Iran you know, he said he

899
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 3: wasn't going to go on to Iran, but like most

900
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,479
Speaker 3: of the other things that he is doing, he said

901
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 3: he said that he was going to do when he

902
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 3: was campaigning. So if you didn't listen to her, they didn't.

903
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Speaker 3: People didn't listen to him either.

904
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Speaker 1: And and but I mean also Barack Obama told us

905
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Speaker 1: the same thing. Though I wanted to put up this

906
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Speaker 1: next Yeah, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, ever, they all told

907
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Speaker 1: us the same thing.

908
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 2: And then I'll tell you why.

909
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: I just kind of jumped in and raised my voice

910
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: with Andrew on the other side, and.

911
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Speaker 2: Nobody knows. Look at this clip, and I want this

912
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: this post to the scratch I didn't hear you. I'm sorry.

913
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Speaker 2: That's I mean, that's how I raised my voice.

914
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Speaker 1: I'm married, I can't maybe dysfunctional, and when you married,

915
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: your voice tempers automatically. So here you have a comp

916
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Speaker 1: you have a comparison between the randial the JCPOA, which

917
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: is the acronym, you know, that's what we call them

918
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: on this show because of Angela versus Trump's Trump's aroon ceasefire.

919
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: And look, you see the thing, and I know Angela

920
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: pointed this out earlier, the two million dollar per ship

921
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: reported access fee's that is an insane amount for individuals

922
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Speaker 1: to go through the strait of her moves.

923
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Speaker 2: You see.

924
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Speaker 1: One of the things that Barack Obama tried to do

925
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: was this, it's a republican it's a Republican idiom, but

926
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Speaker 1: trust but verify uranium enrichment capped, no nuclear weapons, International

927
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Speaker 1: inspectors were allowed and compliance was verified. It's that trust

928
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Speaker 1: but verify mechanism. Here we went and then bombed their sites.

929
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Speaker 1: But let me tell the people who are listening, one

930
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Speaker 1: of the things you cannot do to nuclear weapons is

931
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Speaker 1: bomb them from on high. Why because they're so deep

932
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Speaker 1: in the ground that it actually takes ground troops to

933
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Speaker 1: go in and discontinue or dismember their nuclear sites. There's

934
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Speaker 1: no commitment for no nukes, and there's no inspections whatsoever.

935
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Speaker 1: And so I just wanted people to be able to

936
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Speaker 1: see that while we're talking about a president this is

937
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: as clear as day who doesn't know exactly what he's doing.

938
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 1: You can go back to Barack Obama or Kamala Harris

939
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: or Hillary Clinton and simply say that they told us this.

940
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Speaker 1: And the reason I disagree with Andrew about trying to

941
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Speaker 1: move away from telling people what these individuals said versus

942
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: the reality of today is because simple arguments. When you're

943
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: learning how to how to debate, or in law school

944
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: or in politics, you always go with the theory that

945
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: you tell people what you're going to say, You say

946
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: what you're going to say, and then you tell the

947
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: people what you just said. Right That is the basic

948
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: theory of how to debate. And so we're in that

949
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: process right now of kind of making our closing arguments

950
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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four, hopefully not reliving that again by

951
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: just telling people again what we just said, so they're

952
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: able to see it and draw that direct correlation. Right

953
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: now I think that's what we get, fir.

954
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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, go ahead, no, no, no, I thought them. I

955
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 4: simply want to say, this is where, this is where

956
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 4: we differ. I don't think we should be in a debate.

957
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 4: I think we ought to be in a conversation, because

958
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 4: the debates tend to drive people to their already predisposed

959
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 4: sets of beliefs. That's why most of us listen to

960
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 4: the news, read the news, watch the shows, listen to

961
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 4: the comedians who are most aligned with what it is.

962
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 4: You know, it's confirmation bias. We want to hear the

963
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 4: voices were confirm what it is that we think and

964
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Speaker 4: and and what we are going out there and saying.

965
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Speaker 2: And I'm simply saying I don't want to I said this.

966
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Speaker 4: When Angela and I had our had a little combo

967
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 4: doing our what do we do a mini pod together

968
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 4: about marriage, I was like, I stopped trying to be right,

969
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 4: and you know, I was fighting, I was debating, and

970
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 4: I wanted the conclusion to be Andrew, you were right

971
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 4: from the you know that from the beginning, and oftentimes

972
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 4: it was okay, all right, that's I'm just tired of fighting.

973
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Speaker 2: So I was like, I don't want to be right.

974
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: I just want to be happy.

975
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Speaker 4: And where I want to be with the folks who

976
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 4: are on the other side is I don't want to

977
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Speaker 4: be right in the debate, and I don't want to

978
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 4: remind you that I was right, because most people, psychology

979
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 4: tells us the first thing that they say out.

980
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Speaker 2: Of their mouths and response to your question.

981
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 4: Or your perry querying them about why they voted for something,

982
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 4: is they want to come up with something that you

983
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 4: will perceive to be smart, because people want to be

984
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 4: thought of as smart, and it may not reflect what

985
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Speaker 4: it is that they really believe or what they really

986
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 4: think it really is. I want you to walk away

987
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 4: believing that I'm a thoughtful and smart person in this consideration,

988
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 4: and the more arguments that you make against me that

989
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 4: make me feel stupid, the deeper down I'm going to

990
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 4: get and defending my position that I had from jump

991
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 4: and the conversation goes nowhere it's a debate, yeah, And

992
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 4: we walk away feeling like, oh god, they had nothing

993
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 4: on their side, you know, no defensible position, and all

994
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 4: they're thinking is you're the worst. And this is why

995
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 4: we can't deal with liberals. They're leaders and they think

996
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 4: they're better than everybody and blah blah blah blah blah

997
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 4: blah blah. I think it's time up for that in

998
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 4: this next election cycle. There's some things that bring us

999
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 4: together right now, just like that Wines, the not Weinstein

1000
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 4: excuse me, uh, the the coalition of Epstein that has

1001
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 4: bought Democrats and even some wayward Republicans around to the

1002
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 4: same side. I think the same opportunity exist here on

1003
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 4: this war and on the other ellen, on terrors and

1004
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 4: on ice and on the whole realm of things that

1005
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 4: I think can get us in position to get accountability.

1006
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 2: On this president.

1007
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 4: And then we need to worry about what it means

1008
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 4: to get these majorities and move an affirmative agenda.

1009
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 3: Well, that's interesting. I wonder, I wonder, I wonder what

1010
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 3: urpy'll to Andrew's point. And let's stick with the marriage

1011
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 3: metaphor for a minute. I mean, does America want to

1012
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,919
Speaker 3: stay together or do Americans just want to be right?

1013
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 2: I usual wants to be right.

1014
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: I want an America that's a quilt to channel my

1015
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: inner Jesse Jackson. I want us to be able to

1016
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: I want us to be able to live together as one.

1017
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Speaker 1: And I you know, I I don't know. I think

1018
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: that particularly growing up in the South as you see

1019
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: every day because you in Atlanta, Aaron, you can go,

1020
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: you can go with a full two three weeks without

1021
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 1: seeing a white person down there.

1022
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's get it's getting more difficult. Even

1023
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 3: in my Southwest neighborhood. I do have some some some

1024
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 3: white brothers and sisters this neighbors. But look, I mean

1025
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 3: to your point though, I mean, look, you know, I

1026
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 3: mean Atlanta, famously city too busy to hate, like made

1027
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,439
Speaker 3: the made the you know, kind of understanding a long

1028
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 3: time ago that you know, what is it gonna take

1029
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 3: for us to get ahead.

1030
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: To Yeah, and the reason that I was saying that

1031
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: is because I was using Atlanta and you you kind

1032
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: of ded bunk that slightly. But we still are extremely segregated.

1033
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: It's imperfect, and that was my that's my old that's

1034
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: my overarching theme. I mean, we moved away sixty four

1035
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: to sixty five, Oden Rights Actsivil Rights Ack, Fairhousing Act

1036
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: of sixty eight, like I get all of those things,

1037
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: wanted to kind of end segregation as they did through policy,

1038
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: but still as a people, I mean, we're still we

1039
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,760
Speaker 1: still church on Sundays, right, we're just coming off Easter Sunday.

1040
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 2: Is that a problem?

1041
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: But that's I don't I don't know if that's a

1042
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: problem per se. In fact, I don't think it to

1043
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: be a problem at all. However, I do think that

1044
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: we have to make some more overt steps in working together,

1045
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: particularly in policy. Because again Aaron asked the question, I mean,

1046
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 1: do you want to do we want to get divorced?

1047
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 2: I mean, how do how do we want to live

1048
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 2: as a country? Like what are we doing?

1049
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 5: I'm telling you who I don't want my president to

1050
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 5: be and if you go stay there, I definitely want

1051
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 5: a divorce.

1052
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, at the end of the day's let's

1053
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: let's go, let's play this, let's play this pea because because.

1054
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 2: I don't know mans.

1055
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 4: With this man, I don't know, it's un serious a

1056
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:54,720
Speaker 4: being that ever existed.

1057
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 2: I don't blame you for the Yeah, I don't know

1058
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 2: how to pronounce his name.

1059
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: Lloyd Austin had to go out here and in twenty

1060
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: seven different wars and have forty five different stars and

1061
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: still got heal. And this man just came from Fox News,

1062
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: although he did do three combat tours, but he doesn't

1063
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: have the administrative background that people before him had. But Nick,

1064
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: can you play this clip real quick, because this is

1065
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: who you're president about to be next.

1066
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 15: Our troops, our American warriors, deserve the credit for this day,

1067
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 15: but God deserves all the glory. Tens of thousands of sorties,

1068
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 15: refuelings and strikes carried out under the protection of divine providence,

1069
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 15: a massive effort with miraculous protection.

1070
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: Dude forty four Bravo spoke for all of us.

1071
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 2: God is good. This was in response to his US

1072
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 2: bombing or rom.

1073
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 6: But go ahead, I'm gonna tell you what.

1074
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 5: I don't know what White Jesus he serves, but we

1075
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 5: do not serve the same guy. Anybody that's out here

1076
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 5: librating and creating, I mean, this is really what they're doing.

1077
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 6: They're making a religious war out of this.

1078
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 5: You know, as much as Tucker Carlson, who I went

1079
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 5: off on on Tuesday talks about that he didn't sign

1080
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 5: up for a theocracy, That's exactly what y'all signed up

1081
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 5: for and tried to architect it. So I'm not sure

1082
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 5: why these people continue to play games with the lives

1083
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 5: of the world, of the world's citizens, But that.

1084
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 6: Is exactly what they continue to do.

1085
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 5: So, and our producer Nick wants to remind the audience

1086
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 5: that haig Seth, or however Bakari says his name, has

1087
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 5: a huge Crusaders cross tattoo on his chest, so we know,

1088
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 5: you know, I think that enslavers use the Bible per

1089
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 5: history to enslave black people. I think that's the Jesus

1090
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 5: that Pete Haggseth serves. It ain't the one I served.

1091
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Speaker 2: In English.

1092
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 14: I would simply say once again what I said in

1093
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Speaker 14: the to be a messaged on Sunday, asking all people

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Speaker 14: of goodwill to search always for peace and not violence,

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Speaker 14: to reject war, especially a war which many people have

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Speaker 14: said is an unjust war, which is continuing to escalate

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Speaker 14: and which is not resolving anything. In fact, we have

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Speaker 14: a worldwideide economic crisis, energy crisis, situation in the Middle

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Speaker 14: East of great instability, which is only provoking more hatred

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Speaker 14: throughout the world. So come back to the table, let's talk,

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Speaker 14: let's look for solutions in a peaceful way, and let's

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Speaker 14: remember especially the innocent children, the elderly, the sick. So

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Speaker 14: many people who have already become or will become victims

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Speaker 14: of this continued warfare, to remind all that attacks on

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Speaker 14: civilian infrastructure is against international law, but that it is

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Speaker 14: also a sign of the hatred of the division and

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Speaker 14: the destruction the human being is capable of.

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Speaker 2: And we all want to work for peace.

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Speaker 14: People want peace. I would invite the citizens of all

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Speaker 14: the countries involved to contact the authorities, political leaders, congressmen

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Speaker 14: to ask them, tell them to work for peace and

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Speaker 14: to reject war. Always, thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Before we before before you guys chime in, though I

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Speaker 1: wanted to, I wanted to follow that up with the

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Speaker 1: MAGA voices who were criticizing Trump of the war as well,

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Speaker 1: so we can kind of have a full conversation about

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00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: you know, all of these voices coming together singing from

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Speaker 1: the same shit of music.

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Speaker 2: So how big is Trump's choir? For lack of a better.

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Speaker 10: Term, this is Israel's war. This is not the United

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Speaker 10: States's war.

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Speaker 11: Being a conservative or being a Trump supporter or being

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Speaker 11: part of MAGA does not mean you have to accept.

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Speaker 6: And the other Middle East war.

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Speaker 7: Over the last few days, some very prominent mega voices

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Speaker 7: have been speaking out against Trump's war with Iran.

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Speaker 10: And so you're seeing this crazed, hysterical in fact, effort

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Speaker 10: to purge anyone in the conservative movement or MAGA, whoever

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Speaker 10: those are, to purge anyone who had any doubt about

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Speaker 10: the wisdom of this war.

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Speaker 13: It is absolutely America last. It's the same thing we've seen.

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Speaker 13: What is happening to the man that I've supported, You supported,

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Speaker 13: the man that denounced what happened in Iraq.

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Speaker 7: From Megan Kelly, Tucker Carlson, and Marjorie Taylor Green to

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Speaker 7: Dave Smith, a comedian and podcaster who endorsed Trump back

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Speaker 7: in twenty twenty four but has since said that was

1137
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 7: a mistake.

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Speaker 16: Donald Trump has made as bed like this really is it.

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Speaker 7: And there's already talk about how this will affect Republicans

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Speaker 7: in this year's midterm elections and even the twenty twenty

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Speaker 7: eight presidential I.

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Speaker 16: Hope the Republicans lose the midterms this year. They need

1143
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 16: to for the country. They need to be destroyed, and

1144
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 16: no one from this administration can be supported in twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: JD.

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Speaker 16: Van's Marco Rubio Pulci gabberd my, my, my.

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Speaker 6: I mean, look y'all, I am so tired of him.

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Speaker 3: When you have lost Marjorie Taylor Green and the manisphere.

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Speaker 3: I think, I think, I mean, your base is publicly

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Speaker 3: disagreeing with you on the war. That is not a

1151
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 3: small thing, right, I mean like this is a serious

1152
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 3: coalition fracture. I do just want to name you know,

1153
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 3: the Pope really pointing to the human stakes of this

1154
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Speaker 3: war is not just content like we saw in that

1155
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Speaker 3: in that mashup video. There are consequences to war, and

1156
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 3: so him him pointing that out, I think what we

1157
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 3: also have to consider also thinking about the clip of

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Speaker 3: Secretary of heg Sath is I mean, we are seeing

1159
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 3: some very different displays of masculinity that are playing out

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Speaker 3: on a world stage with global consequences.

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Speaker 1: Explain, Explain, explain that, explain that a little deeper, because.

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Speaker 3: I mean thinking about the administration's approach to to engaging

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Speaker 3: in these conflicts, the language that we are seeing, the

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Speaker 3: rhetoric that we're seeing from our president, the way that

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Speaker 3: he has you know, been posting about this war, the

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Speaker 3: way that we have seen Secretary of Hegsath talking about

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Speaker 3: this war very confrontational, very aggressive, very much not considering

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Speaker 3: some of the things that that that that you heard

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Speaker 3: the Pope mentioning. I mean, and also you know, the

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Speaker 3: Pope talking about a diplomatic solution, praying for peace, want

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Speaker 3: you know, talking about peace centering that uh and trying

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Speaker 3: to get to that just just feels a lot. A

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Speaker 3: lot of how we got here, I think has been

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Speaker 3: because of a certain brand of masculinity. That that a

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Speaker 3: lot that has resonated with with a lot of people

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Speaker 3: in this country, and that is motivating then politically, I

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Speaker 3: wonder how long it is going to continue to do that,

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Speaker 3: particularly as kind of the places and spaces where they

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01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 3: are going to have those ideas reinforced are not necessarily

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Speaker 3: in support of this administration, in this president.

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Speaker 4: These people are evidencing what got you here won't get

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Speaker 4: you there. Those low brow definitional changes, the the the

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Speaker 4: warrior ethos, the lethality of the Armed Services, the Department

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Speaker 4: of War. Right, so they made these superficial changes which

1185
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Speaker 4: all of us were picking up on. We recognized that, Okay,

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Speaker 4: you are of a violent, deleterious, slash diabolical oric. You

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Speaker 4: now want to transform our institutions to reinforce that rhetoric

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Speaker 4: so that you know the people you kicking it with

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Speaker 4: in whatever ways you kicking it with them like to

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Speaker 4: feel puffed up that way when you know, they can't

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Speaker 4: be puffed up any other way. So so you met

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Speaker 4: that need. But now the people have to eat, they

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Speaker 4: need sustenance. And now they're turning to these people who

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Speaker 4: were basically, you know, magicians or you know, whatever the

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Speaker 4: distraction is is what they are and what they were

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Speaker 4: doing the campaign. Now you're turning to those people thinking

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Speaker 4: that they know how to cook, how to feed you,

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Speaker 4: and they don't. They're taking your money, they're raising our taxes,

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Speaker 4: they are you know, increasing inflation.

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Speaker 2: So now these people.

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Speaker 4: Are waking up to the reality that oh my god,

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Speaker 4: this ain't nothing like what I expected it was going

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Speaker 4: to be. And what they expected was all the rest

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Speaker 4: of us was going to We're going to hurt and

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Speaker 4: they were not there.

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Speaker 2: They were signed up for that.

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Speaker 4: And now they see, oh no no, but they kill

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Speaker 4: a white people.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you two quess two questions real quick.

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Speaker 1: So like, if the stock market flip right, let's say

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Speaker 1: the straits open up, stock market go back up. It

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Speaker 1: already flipped, but I mean like if it if it

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Speaker 1: gets back to where it was, or there's a or

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Speaker 1: there's a run, I mean flipped in another direction. That's

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Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say, if it begins to go

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Speaker 1: back to where it was, or it goes back to

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Speaker 1: where it was under Biden, or continues to rise, or

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Speaker 1: do you think that because their pockets now changed, that

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Speaker 1: all of these you know, grounds they stiring on moral

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Speaker 1: and ethically about not being at war, et cetera, et cetera,

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Speaker 1: et cetera. Do you think that they stay where they are?

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Speaker 1: Do you think that they go back to where they were?

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're the beneficiary.

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Speaker 3: I was just about to say the same thing, like like,

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Speaker 3: I think most people could not tell you what the

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Speaker 3: Dow is today. They can tell you, though, how much

1227
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Speaker 3: they paid for gas. How much was it to fill

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Speaker 3: up my foot? They know that number. So if that

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Speaker 3: number change, that's.

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Speaker 2: A profound If that number changes.

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Speaker 3: Then I think that people those memories are not necessarily

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Speaker 3: so long.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we wanted to play one more. Go ahead and

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Speaker 2: you can talk to it, Angela.

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Speaker 6: No, I'm not going to tosk to a clip. I

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Speaker 6: was gonna say.

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Speaker 5: We talked a lot about Republicans who are starting to

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Speaker 5: get cold feet on their guy. But I think it's

1239
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Speaker 5: also important to understand the folks who have been holding

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Speaker 5: the line on one of those, this Congressman Melanie Stansbury,

1241
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Speaker 5: and she had this to say on threads after Donald

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Speaker 5: Trump threatened an entire civilization and then tried to pull

1243
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Speaker 5: it back and be like, Okay, y'all got two weeks.

1244
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 5: The deadline was Tuesday night at eight pm Eastern, moved

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Speaker 5: it to two weeks. And she says, just because a

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Speaker 5: president announces he's agreed to a two week ceasefire moments

1247
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Speaker 5: before he threatened to commit war crimes, which is what

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Speaker 5: he did, does not mean he is suddenly fit to

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Speaker 5: serve hashtag twenty fifth Amendment. We know also this week,

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Speaker 5: for the first time in its history, the NAACP called

1251
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Speaker 5: for the twenty fifth Amendment on Donald Trump. So I

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Speaker 5: just am also flagging all of that. We've talked about

1253
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 5: his mental acuity. We've talked about the instability that he

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Speaker 5: creates in the hearts and minds of American people, the

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Speaker 5: people who he's put at risk in danger has resulted

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Speaker 5: in loss of life across the globe. So this is

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Speaker 5: what's on the table, twenty fifty mindment. We also talked

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Speaker 5: about that on my solo pot on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's a lot going on. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a lot going on. I know we want to

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Speaker 1: get talk everybody's call to action, but.

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Speaker 4: Before we go to because of action, because we missed

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Speaker 4: this part of the thread, which is we were focusing

1264
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Speaker 4: so much on the damage of Donald Trump, we didn't

1265
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Speaker 4: even recognize the historic nature of the sitting vice president

1266
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Speaker 4: of the United States traveling overseas to put the thumb on.

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Speaker 2: The scale.

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Speaker 4: Of a sovereign countries domestic election of their president. And

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Speaker 4: of course when we're talking about the Victor orbon who

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Speaker 4: is terribly performing in the polls, who is unfortunately represents Turkey,

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Speaker 4: which is which right now is an acceptable part of

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Speaker 4: polite society and international politics. They are part of the

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Speaker 4: G twenty, they are on the Security Council of the

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Speaker 4: United Nations, They are a.

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Speaker 2: Part of.

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Speaker 4: NATO and have played the proxy role for Russia to

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Speaker 4: make sure that Volodimir Zelensky in Ukraine never ever gets

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Speaker 4: the benefit of protection of Western allies, that the US

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Speaker 4: Vice president, who.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't even have enough name I d. In the United States,

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Speaker 2: is traveled across the seas to put his finger on.

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Speaker 4: The scale by attending a political rally in favor of

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Speaker 4: Victor Orbond, this is like unheard of, but this is

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Speaker 4: the kind of this is the kind of thing that

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Speaker 4: is getting under the skin of this America First movement

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Speaker 4: where they're like, you send it in billions a day,

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Speaker 4: and now you going over there and Trump is on

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Speaker 4: speakerphone at the rally about a country I can't even

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Speaker 4: a man who running for president of a country.

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Speaker 2: I can't name and can't locate.

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Speaker 4: It's just it's crazy to me that the norms have

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Speaker 4: moved so far, y'all that that isn't like crashing news

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Speaker 4: in the US, that the US President of the vice

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Speaker 4: president and president are basically rallying for a candidate for

1295
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Speaker 4: president of another sovereign nation is crazy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that goes to what back to

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the show, which is what Angela was

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Speaker 1: talking about in terms of four year situational awareness, because

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Speaker 1: Andrew the question I would have for you in response,

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Speaker 1: like if I was moderating a panel on TV and

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Speaker 1: that why so the people hear you, they see, they

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Speaker 1: see what's going on, they see the funny like little

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Speaker 1: clip thirty second clip of JD Vanskin sitting the voicemail.

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Speaker 1: We chuckle about that, right, because you all of his buddy,

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Speaker 1: and he sends you the voicemail like a side check.

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Speaker 2: You didn't see me. I ain't see the words no part.

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Speaker 1: But that's where So. But the question is what does

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Speaker 1: what does Donald Trump of this administration get out of

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Speaker 1: campaign for Victor Orbon like connect those dots for people.

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Speaker 2: That are yes.

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Speaker 4: So Trump says this in every international and national stage

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Speaker 4: he is on. He resents that Europe is now the

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Speaker 4: European Union and that they have allowed the immigration of

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Speaker 4: so many brown people from other parts of the world

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Speaker 4: to enter their nations. He said it, Yes, he said

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Speaker 4: it this week when he did pick up the phone

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Speaker 4: for JD and Catlinfoe. Victor Orbon is a I'm doing

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Speaker 4: this because I like him, But yes, he is a

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Speaker 4: great man because he refused to join the European Union

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Speaker 4: where all of them are losing their countries to these immigrants.

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Speaker 4: But you all still have your country because of Victor Orbon.

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Speaker 4: And what he's saying is, y'all are still white. You

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Speaker 4: all are still basically homogeneous quintessence wasp white, Anglo Saxon Protestant.

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Speaker 4: And he said it when he went before. But you know,

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Speaker 4: when he was challenging Greenland and all that Europe has

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Speaker 4: gone to hell. We wouldn't my parents wouldn't even recognize

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Speaker 4: Europe today. And all of that has to do with immigration,

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Speaker 4: the the the browning of the world. And he believes

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Speaker 4: Europe has lost its identity. And so to have a

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Speaker 4: partner like Victor Orbon who is willing to get up

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Speaker 4: here and say racist shit out loud as.

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Speaker 2: A sitting president.

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Speaker 4: There they are. They are play cousins. They are play brothers,

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Speaker 4: play cousins because they're both doing the same damn thing.

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Speaker 4: We rarely ever call them on this stuff, but they are.

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Speaker 4: There's no quiet part, there's no there is no dog whistling.

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Speaker 4: This is the bullhorn microphone. By the way, record this

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Speaker 4: and run it back as many times as you can

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Speaker 4: so that folks understand very clearly where I am. Everyplace

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Speaker 4: else that's black and brown as a shi hoole.

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Speaker 2: It's a shit hole.

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Speaker 4: And the only reason why he's mad with Europe and

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Speaker 4: call him I'm shit holish is because they're less white

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01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 4: than they were when his.

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Speaker 2: Parents were there.

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Speaker 1: On that note, I just wanted to This show was

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01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 1: a lot, and I'm a little bit tired today and

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01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 1: wind it today and watching my Sadie and Stuffer all

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01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: over there.

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Speaker 2: So if it wasn't different.

1351
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 1: If one twenty six wasn't as smooth as the rest

1352
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 1: of them, put that on me. Blame that on my

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01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 1: on my uh, blame that on my head, not my heart.

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01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 1: But I did want to get the cause of action

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01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:29,640
Speaker 1: so we can get out of here.

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01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,759
Speaker 2: Who cares about truth? For the last morning seen.

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Speaker 1: It and Aaron, I did want to I'm gonna go

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01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my call to action first, because when

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01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 1: I found out you were gonna be on the show,

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01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:49,759
Speaker 1: I wanted to to say that, you know, down South,

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01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 1: we tell people to give people their flowers while they're living,

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01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 1: and the work that you do is so important, and

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01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to compliment both of you and Don Staley

1364
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 1: to women that I just appreciate so much with all

1365
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 1: my heart and my being two people I can call

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01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 1: really really good friends, two people I can hang out with,

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01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 1: but two people and two women who are changing the

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01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 1: world and the ground on which they stand.

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Speaker 2: They are not what is the saying, Andrew?

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01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 1: When you walk in you don't want to uh, you

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01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 1: don't want to be a barometer of the temperature.

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01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 2: You want to go in and change the temperature.

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01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 1: These these women thermometer. Yes that's right. Yeah, these women

1374
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 1: are thermostats in every room that they walk into. So

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Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that if nobody else heard

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01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 1: anything else Bakari said today because he was all over

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01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 1: the place, I wanted to make sure that you know

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01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 1: that I love I love. Can I just finish see

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01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:43,679
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: I'm not tread on you.

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01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 1: I'm not treading I thank you, and you always be

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01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 1: in my supports on this show.

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01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 2: Thank you.

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01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: But I wanted to say I love Aaron and I

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01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 1: love I love Don Staley, two women today who deserve

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01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 1: all their flowers. With that angelus and she talking so much,

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01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 1: I hope you got a good one.

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Speaker 6: I actually have a great one.

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01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 5: So I have on my game cocks maroon today because

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01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 5: I forever stand with Don Staley.

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Speaker 6: But shout out to the west coast of the U. C.

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Speaker 6: L A.

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01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 5: And shout out to Michigan. It was much deserved, long overdue.

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01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 5: So my calls to call to action today is gonna

1395
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 5: be what y'all ignored me about the whole time. And

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01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 5: this was not playing. Can you please roll that trick,

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01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 5: daddy ak and Jesus.

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01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:33,480
Speaker 3: Wow, wait, what was that?

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01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 4: Was that?

1400
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 5: The clappers?

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01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 1: Y'all?

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01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 6: Look, hey, hey, hey hey.

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01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 2: Then he get tired, Then he get tired. That's like

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01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 2: every that's like every man after just got tired of him.

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01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 5: Okay, there's one more clip. I want to see where

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01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 5: he's doing hitting the pelvic thrust though. That's funny. Look

1407
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 5: the trick Daddy said, I got my room full of

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01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 5: the caves.

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01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 6: They are they getting it?

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01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 2: If they are doing a lot of dance, they.

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01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 6: Are getting it.

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01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:15,719
Speaker 5: The room is packed. So here's my point.

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01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 2: You've been trying.

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01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 1: You've been trying to get this in for the last

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01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:20,759
Speaker 1: hour and twenty minutes, so was not the last twenty.

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01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 5: But I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that. Here's

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01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 5: my point. What I want us to embrace in this

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01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 5: day and age and and and as as put together

1419
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:34,679
Speaker 5: as Aaron Haynes was on his show.

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Speaker 1: Y'all, it's the ratchet.

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01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 6: So f's the ratchet is?

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01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:41,640
Speaker 5: Okay, listen you guys, I'm just gonna tell you, like,

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01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 5: one of the places where I can embody my hypocrisy

1424
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 5: the most is when ain't no fun comes on.

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01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 6: Okay, if you if me and.

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01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 5: My girls, we are brilliant and they still be like, y'all,

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01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 5: I want to learn how to twork that we can

1428
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 5: be both sides. It's okay, Aka's I just want y'all

1429
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 5: to understand.

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01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 6: Yes.

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01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 5: To the older women who felt disrespected by the lyrics,

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01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 5: I completely. I said, well, some of them were felt

1433
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 5: disrespected and walked out.

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01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 6: There's a c Delores Tucker in every room. That's fine.

1435
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 5: But for every Ce Doloris Tucker, there's also a little Kim.

1436
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 5: There's also a Cardi B. There's also a Meg. There's

1437
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 5: also a Lotto.

1438
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

1439
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 2: There's also around.

1440
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 5: It's sometimes it's all in one because if you play

1441
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 5: that at my church, I'm gonna get your oil out

1442
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 5: on you.

1443
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 6: But if you play it at the at the conference,

1444
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 6: I might.

1445
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 5: Try to say, yes, they ship ordered Jim, but I can't.

1446
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 5: But all I'm all I'm saying is I want us

1447
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 5: to embody the fullness of our human experience, to try

1448
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 5: not to do to try to do that with less judgment,

1449
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 5: to have a little fun, to you know, to.

1450
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 6: Allow a little levity.

1451
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 5: It's a very serious, tense time like that, and I

1452
01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 5: wanted to I wanted to play that because I want

1453
01:13:59,920 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 5: to shout out all the a ks who were in

1454
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 5: the fullness of their joy with Trick.

1455
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 6: It's so good. They don't know that.

1456
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 3: You have to have that. Why don't you also as

1457
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 3: a member of the you remember that freak wait.

1458
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 6: Oh you know? Are you going to do it?

1459
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 3: But I could, And that's what matters. Speaks.

1460
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 6: Just give us one line.

1461
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:30,759
Speaker 1: Absolutely not, I'm going to protect your lawyer. Just wherever

1462
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 1: the line is back away.

1463
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1464
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 3: I mean listen as a member of the as a

1465
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 3: member of the Freak Essence pipeline, We're gonna get you

1466
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 3: that clappor tutorial and Angela, because what I just saw

1467
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 3: tells me that we still have so much work to do.

1468
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 3: Is a machetes community.

1469
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:51,520
Speaker 6: I was trying to copy.

1470
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 2: Get hurt well.

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Speaker 3: First of all, I think I also love Don Staley

1472
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 3: and Bacari and Angela and Andrew, all of you. Thank

1473
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,679
Speaker 3: you all so much for letting me hang out with you, because,

1474
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 3: like I said, I just really appreciate being in the

1475
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 3: space with y'all because these are the conversations we need

1476
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 3: right now. So like, share this episode with somebody who

1477
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 3: needs it. Everybody who's watching, everybody who's listening, people who

1478
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 3: need a little bit more context about what's going on,

1479
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 3: not just the headlines. Like that is what this is doing,

1480
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:27,679
Speaker 3: because if we are not making sense at this moment,

1481
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 3: I know how easy it is to feel overwhelmed by

1482
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:33,679
Speaker 3: everything that's going on. So so that's my call to action.

1483
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 3: Share this read the nineteenth support black journalists. Obviously, I

1484
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 3: got to say that. As an ABJ president, I hope

1485
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 3: I see all of you. The call of action to

1486
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 3: everybody on this screen to join us in Atlanta for

1487
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 3: the NABJ convention in August. Can we pay well and

1488
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 3: so many more of you.

1489
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 6: We're gonna be live there.

1490
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:53,679
Speaker 2: Real quick.

1491
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 1: I do these follow ups now when I'm hosting a

1492
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 1: show because I kind of like doing it. But explain

1493
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 1: to people, like in two or three sentences elevator from

1494
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 1: the what the purpose of the NABJ and why you're

1495
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 1: so important right now?

1496
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 3: Why the National Association of Black Journalists is the largest

1497
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 3: and oldest advocacy organization for journalists of color. We just

1498
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 3: celebrated our fiftieth anniversary, and we exist to advocate four

1499
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:18,839
Speaker 3: black journalists not only in mainstream newsrooms across this country,

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01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 3: but also independent journalists, journalists that are trying to start

1501
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 3: journalism entities that we own because we know that our

1502
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:30,600
Speaker 3: voice matters and that we are the trusted messengers of

1503
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,720
Speaker 3: our community, and that we do this for y'all each

1504
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 3: and every single day. So stand with us, because we

1505
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 3: absolutely stand with you.

1506
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 2: That's real. It matters who tells your story. Take us

1507
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 2: out the show, Andrew, Yeah, well that's Angeline. It does

1508
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 2: matter who. It does matter who tells your story.

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01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 4: I appreciate NABJ because, as I had shared before, running

1510
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 4: for a higher office in a state like Florida where

1511
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 4: blacks are not the majority, but we are significant enough

1512
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 4: when it comes to these elections and when they get

1513
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:08,480
Speaker 4: to hear about you or read about you, it matters

1514
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,640
Speaker 4: who is asking the questions, who's writing the article, Not

1515
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 4: for bias reasons, but just because we all walk in

1516
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 4: our own respective shoes, and sometimes certain people who hadn't

1517
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 4: walked in your shoes don't understand the offense of the question,

1518
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 4: don't understand that they've gotten lost on the decorations and

1519
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 4: totally lost the.

1520
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:30,799
Speaker 2: Tree, and and and that matters.

1521
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 4: It really does on a whole range of things, not

1522
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 4: just politics, but crime reporting, school reporting, you know, just

1523
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 4: a whole gamut. And so I was so excited, Aaron,

1524
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:43,879
Speaker 4: because of the seriousness by which you take your craft

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Speaker 4: and your work that NABJ was blessed to have you

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Speaker 4: as an option. And then we're brilliant enough to solidify

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Speaker 4: that option by letting you their president. But in appreciation

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Speaker 4: for you, which is today's which is my call to

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Speaker 4: actually I'm biggiebacking on my colleagues, which is to say,

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Speaker 4: even when even when black women were not welcomed, were

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Speaker 4: shunned from the movement of expansion of democracy to include

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Speaker 4: the franchise of the nineteenth Amendment, the women's ability to devote,

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Speaker 4: even though that is part of the history, I just

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Speaker 4: love that with you at the helm of the nineteenth

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Speaker 4: is a re rescuing, re rescuing because we talked about

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Speaker 4: the Akas, but the Aka's, the Deltas and many others

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Speaker 4: even when they were not welcomed.

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Speaker 3: In those lines on the front lines.

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Speaker 4: That's right during the suffrage move to push to push

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Speaker 4: the envelope for all of us. And so thank you

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Speaker 4: for being that kind of head, but not just symbolically,

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Speaker 4: but through your energy, effort, your talent, your skills, and

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Speaker 4: your brilliance you make us really really proud.

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Speaker 1: Thank you and listening amen to that, and Andrew and I.

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Speaker 1: One thing we do have in common is we love

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Speaker 1: us some black women, and we're.

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Speaker 6: All in a different way.

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Speaker 1: No, we love not always always always. Thank you to

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Speaker 1: our guest host Aaron Haynes for joining us today, and

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Speaker 2: Welcome home, y'all.

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Speaker 1: There are two eight days until midterm elections.

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Speaker 6: How many?

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Speaker 2: Two hundred and eight?

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Speaker 4: You?

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Speaker 2: Altady said eight days?

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Speaker 5: No, I'm just like it's crazy, Like a long time ago,

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Speaker 5: it felt like it was taken for now it's like, uh,

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Speaker 5: it's around the corner.

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