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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody.

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Speaker 3: Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 3: kicks off.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: It is big, it is beautiful, and it is now law.

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Speaker 3: The Big Beautiful Bill has just moments ago passed in

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Speaker 3: the United States cent Okay, I know Trump has to

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Speaker 3: sign it, but you know it's happening. Trump's going to

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Speaker 3: sign this big beautiful bill. So the Big beautiful Bill

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Speaker 3: has gone through. It will be on the President's desk.

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Speaker 2: This is huge. It is huge.

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Speaker 3: We will get into some of the final items that

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Speaker 3: were in this. We will discuss some of the no votes.

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Speaker 3: There were some no votes. We'll also talk about how

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Speaker 3: Elon Musk, formerly of DOGE fame pretty unhappy with the

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Speaker 3: situation here of the five trillion dollar debt ceiling rays.

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Speaker 1: I think there's still potentially bucked a little bit of

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Speaker 1: drama because I think the House will now have to

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Speaker 1: come back and agree to some.

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Speaker 4: Of the.

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Speaker 3: Side I got ahead of myself there too excited, too excited,

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Speaker 3: So there will there will be some drama that's in reconciling.

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Speaker 3: It's going to go through the House has already passed it.

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Speaker 3: It's going to go through. But thank you for the yeah.

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Speaker 1: Sorely for me for the nerdy edition where there will

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Speaker 1: continue to be drama. First is that going to take though?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I I I just we have not

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Speaker 1: spent a ton of time on the minute by minute

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Speaker 1: because we knew that this was going to pass and

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Speaker 1: it will pass on some level. Uh, but they still

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Speaker 1: have some maneuvering. I think Trump wants it by July fourth, right,

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Speaker 1: is the ideal day that he would sign it, which

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Speaker 1: is Friday, And so I imagine that they are hoping that

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Speaker 1: the House will sign off on the changes made by

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Speaker 1: the Senate at some point in time in the next

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Speaker 1: several days. But that's the timeframe. Uh so that is

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Speaker 1: the last drama to be had before this thing is

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Speaker 1: officially signed an underway, which.

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Speaker 2: Is not gonna be It's not gonna mean drama.

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Speaker 3: I mean they're gonna you know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 3: come on, what's the drama gonna be, Clay, Someone's really

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Speaker 3: the Republicans aren't gonna actually do the thing that they've

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Speaker 3: already said they were gonna do. I don't I don't

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Speaker 3: see it, but yes, procedurally speaking, they have to reconcile it, right,

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Speaker 3: So the house as the set of the set, it says,

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Speaker 3: how's that? Okay, So let's get into what is in

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Speaker 3: the big beautiful bill, which I do believe is its

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Speaker 3: official is its official name.

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Speaker 2: I'm just seeing now.

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Speaker 3: I think it happened so recently, Clay, that all the

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Speaker 3: the news sites live and in real time here are

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Speaker 3: still updating.

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Speaker 1: Past as we came on the air like that is, yes,

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Speaker 1: the second absolute latest breaking news.

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Speaker 3: That's why I got all excited. Okay, so it was

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Speaker 3: happening in real time. We got to open the show with, ah,

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Speaker 3: I'm reading this in real time because it just happened.

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Speaker 3: Just you understand, this wasn't like an hour. What happened

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Speaker 3: Paul opposed the legislation's five trillion dollars debtlimit, et cetera. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so Susan Collins. Not a surprise. Rand Paul being Rand Paul,

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Speaker 3: the final piece. She backed the bill after discussions with

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Speaker 3: Thune twenty four hours of motions and amendments. Senate Republican

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Speaker 3: So this was this was down to the wire, everyone

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Speaker 3: Hundreds of billions for border security, national defense, increased budget

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Speaker 3: look it's I'll tell you, the White House is very

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Speaker 2: I think the economy is going to look.

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Speaker 3: we knew it would get through. Yeah, tie breaking vote

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Speaker 3: We knew it would get through. It's getting through now. Okay,

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Speaker 3: the House reconciles it on their end. What are your

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Speaker 1: So I think the big question is going to be

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Speaker 1: Can we get this economy moving at three percent growth

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Speaker 1: doesn't sound found outrageous to me, but it is better

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Speaker 1: the biggest question out there is how fast can we

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Speaker 1: grow the economy? To me, the secondary question on this

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Speaker 1: is can we get the FED to lower interest rates?

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Speaker 1: Our interest rates are about two percent above where the

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Speaker 1: several years and we accelerated those so rapidly that lots

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Speaker 3: So the House Freedom Caucus, I was asking, who's going

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Speaker 3: to cause drama here? I was all excited, like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: this is finally happening. We're looking at a holiday coming

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Speaker 3: up here, a great holiday weekend. Country's kicking ass. Things

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Speaker 3: going really well. House Freedom Caucus says, and this is

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Speaker 3: as of the last twenty four hours. House budget framework

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Speaker 3: was clear. No new deficit spending in the One Big

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Speaker 3: Beautiful Bill. The Senates version adds six hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: not what we agreed to. The Senate must make major

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Speaker 2: Uh, are they really going to do this? Are they

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be some drama associated with this,

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Speaker 3: The drama is just so they get attention and then

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Speaker 3: they let this go through, they're just being annoying. I'm

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Speaker 3: just gonna say this because we've already We've already had

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Speaker 1: I get it. This is the best you're gonna get.

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Speaker 1: And there's people out there who are gonna say, Look,

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Speaker 1: Rand Paul's right about the deficit. I think he is.

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Speaker 1: Chip Uh, Chip Roy is right about the deficit. I

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Speaker 1: think he is. This is the best bill that's going

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Speaker 1: much of this bill does. Politics is the art of

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Speaker 1: about the debt, the deficit. I am Look. The reality

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Speaker 1: Social Security, and medicare make it virtually impossible to largely

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Speaker 1: as you mentioned that, we get flooded, and every politician

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Speaker 1: And if you are around our age, the math doesn't

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Speaker 1: Without adjusting based on retirement ages, based on just looking

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Speaker 1: virtually nothing from Social Security. That's me. I'm forty six.

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Speaker 1: You know, people can start taking social Security. I think

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Speaker 1: it's sixty two, so I'm not that far away. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be there. This is

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Speaker 3: And I appreciate that Rand Paul wants to Senator Paul

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Speaker 3: he's right, but politically he's wrong because no one's going

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Speaker 2: It's like having a debt ceiling fight.

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Speaker 3: It's a fake fight because we always raise the debt

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Speaker 2: So it just becomes tiresome and you lose. It's the

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Speaker 3: You lose public interest, and I think that yeah, until

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Speaker 3: people want to talk about entitlements just to keep spending

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 3: The hundreds of billions of dollars that are going toward

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Speaker 3: pile them. Under Biden it's absolutely essential. A lot of

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Speaker 3: Growth is also really important. Remember nobody's factoring in that

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Speaker 3: So you know, there are other pathways maybe that could

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Speaker 2: Now the House has the reconcile on their side for

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Speaker 3: Think they're just gonna do what they did. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: get a bunch of windy speeches about the debt, the debt,

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Speaker 3: vote for it. I don't understand what's We all get it.

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Speaker 3: We all understand there's nothing else to be said until

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Speaker 3: until you want to deal with entitlements. Everybody, you don't

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Speaker 3: want to deal with the debt. End of story, full stop,

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Speaker 1: I think that there's going to be a recognition that

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Speaker 2: Spoiler alert.

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Speaker 3: Naval ravakand he's a very smart guy. Status is zero sum.

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Speaker 3: Wealth can actually be something that is real and that

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Speaker 3: is broadly shared. We're all a lot richer than the

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Speaker 3: richest people were in the fifteen hundreds. Why is that right?

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Speaker 3: The world has gotten a lot wealthier, not just individuals.

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Speaker 3: Status is a different thing, that's zero sum. So I

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Speaker 3: just don't know if we've reached the point. I don't

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Speaker 3: think we have reached the point of the country where

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Speaker 3: we want to tackle the problem. Maybe we want to

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Speaker 3: see if we can grow our way out of it,

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Speaker 3: and that's where we are. So any noise to the

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Speaker 3: contrary right now is unfortunate, just that noise.

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Speaker 1: I think the are argument that might cut through from

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Speaker 1: a communication perspective is if you put on ten pounds

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Speaker 1: of weight every year and then suddenly you only put

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Speaker 1: on three. You're getting fat slower, but you're still getting fatter.

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Speaker 1: And the whole idea that slowing the rate of an

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Speaker 1: increase or slowing the rate of growth as a cut

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Speaker 1: is one of the most pernicious I think realities that

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Speaker 1: has been allowed to exist in the way we even

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Speaker 1: have conversation. This is where the left does a better

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Speaker 1: job with language, because defining a cut as something that

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Speaker 1: actually leads to something being greater is really what they

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Speaker 1: do in essence, because what it means is once they

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Speaker 1: get the money spent, they never dial back from the

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Speaker 1: money that has been spent. They embed it.

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Speaker 3: It's also it's like revenue versus taxes. They don't use

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Speaker 3: the word tax really if they can avoid it. They'll

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Speaker 3: say revenue because revenue is just money the government has

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Speaker 3: which is good and goes to investing.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'll also say, we need.

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Speaker 3: To invest more in the following programs because investing sounds good.

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Speaker 3: What they mean is take your money under the threat

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Speaker 3: of fine, zan or imprisonment and put it into things

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Speaker 3: that the government decides, our payoffs for the constituents that

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Speaker 3: they need to pay off. That's what it actually is,

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Speaker 3: But they play games with the language. I say this

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Speaker 3: to Clay offline, I mean off air, I'll say it

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Speaker 3: to all of you. It's the same thing. When you

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Speaker 3: talk about minimum wage. Minimum wage is economically a flawed concept.

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Speaker 3: It does not work the way it is intended to work.

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Speaker 3: It never has, it never will, doesn't matter. People like it.

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Speaker 3: And if you say don't pay minimum wage, you know

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Speaker 3: what happens.

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Speaker 2: You lose.

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Speaker 3: So it's very hard and you could say, well, I'll

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Speaker 3: just convince people, make a better argument.

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Speaker 2: You can convince some people.

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Speaker 3: Can you convince enough people that the communists who are

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Speaker 3: just going to shout you're a fat cat? They play

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Speaker 3: the politics of envy, the mom Donnie routine like this

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Speaker 3: mom Donnie stuff is none of this is new.

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Speaker 2: It's the same thing with Bernie Sanders.

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Speaker 3: Did you see Bernie Sanders sitting down with Joe Rogan recently?

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Speaker 3: I might add talking about the the lawsuits.

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Speaker 2: That Trump is filing.

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Speaker 3: You know what Bernie Sanders does whenever he's cornered with

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Speaker 3: a stupid argument, he pretends he doesn't know the details.

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Speaker 2: This is what he does. He does this with economics too,

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Speaker 2: I might add, well, you know that'll have the fects

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Speaker 2: and the figures on that, so I can't get into it.

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Speaker 3: Then the no, it's because his arguments are trash clay.

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Speaker 3: But Bernie Sanders, Mamdani aoc, they're all doing the same thing,

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Speaker 3: which is ignoring history, ignoring math, and telling people they

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Speaker 3: have a secret sauce, a secret formula that's gonna make

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Speaker 3: everybody feel like they're getting enough and they're good enough

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Speaker 3: and everything is fine. It is always a lie, but

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Speaker 3: it's a very appealing lie.

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Speaker 1: Something that Trump is going to focus on buck that

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Speaker 1: I'm starting to see attention on that I think could

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Speaker 1: be transformative. Okay, we've talked now. The big beautiful Bill

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Speaker 1: is eventually going to pass in some fashions, pass the Senate,

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Speaker 1: past the House. They have to reconcile them. But I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's going to suddenly blow up. There's going

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Speaker 1: to be some form of a bill that passes. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so that is now moving forward in the agenda. There

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Speaker 1: is now and I think this is going to be

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Speaker 1: potentially transformative momentum to not count illegal immigrants for purposes

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Speaker 1: of the House seats. Have you seen this? This could

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Speaker 1: be hugely important and it's structural and it's massive. First

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Speaker 1: of all, we need a new census because I think

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Speaker 1: they screwed it up, and it would change the way

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Speaker 1: that the twenty twenty eight election map is set up

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Speaker 1: because it would mean that even if Democrats won Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: The electoral votes are not there to allow them to

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Speaker 1: be able to win two seventy to two sixty eight. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: the electoral college not going to be shifted. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: appear till after twenty thirty. But what no one talks

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Speaker 1: about that I think Trump could get behind, and this

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Speaker 1: could be really important too, is they count illegal immigrants

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Speaker 1: for purposes of House seats, and the number is roughly

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Speaker 1: seven hundred and thirty or seven hundred and forty thousand.

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Speaker 1: Congressmen represent individuals. If you said, hey, we're not counting

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Speaker 1: illegal immigrants at all for purposes of House seats, this

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Speaker 1: would mean that the House was not winnable for Democrats.

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Speaker 1: They may win the House back in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 1: but structurally, if if I were now the Trump team

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Speaker 1: and I were giving them advice on something that I

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Speaker 1: think would be transformative in the illegal immigrant space, it

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Speaker 1: would be let's make it clear that you cannot count

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Speaker 1: illegal immigrants for purposes of redistricting House seats and districting

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Speaker 1: House seats, and this would probably knock at least ten

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Speaker 1: Democrat seats out of control. Why in the world should

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Speaker 1: these people be counted, and it be the case that

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Speaker 1: Democrats benefit overwhelmingly off of people that are not citizens,

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Speaker 1: not them voting, but just then being counted for census purposes.

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Speaker 1: This means that big cities and blue states that have

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Speaker 1: encouraged illegal immigrants to come into their locations would be

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Speaker 1: dialed back in their impact, and this would have a

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Speaker 1: substantial impact going forward. I think it's one of the

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Speaker 1: big things that I would say, Hey, now that we

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Speaker 1: got this done, let's focus on that.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: It also goes to the perception people have, which I

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Speaker 3: think is in this case correct, which is that the

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Speaker 3: system is rigged because if you're a political party that

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Speaker 3: is benefiting from violations of law, you are benefiting in

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Speaker 3: terms of, you know, cold hard facts of power when

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Speaker 3: it comes to leveraging something that is the mass violation,

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Speaker 3: the zero violation of American law. That's not the way

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Speaker 3: the game is supposed to be played, all right, The

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Speaker 3: refs have been paid off. This is a problem, and

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Speaker 3: as you point out, a substantial and a big one

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Speaker 3: by the numbers. So yeah, this is why I keep

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Speaker 3: saying though with the big beautiful bill, the illegals situation,

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Speaker 3: this is why Trump won this is the number one

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Speaker 3: reason in my mind that Trump won the election as

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Speaker 3: convincingly as he did. I know, there's other stuff, there's

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Speaker 3: a million things. Okay, it's always you're taking a snapshot

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Speaker 3: of the way that one hundred and fifty million people

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Speaker 3: decided to click one box or the other. But immigration

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Speaker 3: is the single issue that I think motivated more people

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Speaker 3: to get behind Trump. And this has to start getting

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Speaker 3: fixed right now because what we saw under Joe Biden

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Speaker 3: that is truly unsustainable if you want to consider this

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Speaker 3: to be America going forward, not in fifty years, in

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Speaker 3: five years, you can't have another ten million illegals pile

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Speaker 3: into this country on top of the illegals that are

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Speaker 3: already here and think that this is still going to

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Speaker 3: be what we've thought it is. And Clay, it's already

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Speaker 3: having a huge political effect as we see give all

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Speaker 3: these cities that are trying to thwart federal law enforcement.

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Speaker 3: Well that's because the political power of the illegal constituents

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Speaker 3: in those cities is huge.

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Speaker 1: And they know that they have to try and preserve it.

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Speaker 1: We'll take some calls on this, and we'll take some

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Speaker 1: of your cars. We don't have any guest scheduled today

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Speaker 1: eight hundred and two eight two two eight A two.

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Speaker 1: You can always talk back lots of emails rolling in

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Speaker 1: will dive into some of those because a lot of

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Speaker 1: you have big.

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Speaker 3: Takes on all of that as well. Play wants to

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Speaker 3: cut your Social Security, so calling and yell at them.

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Speaker 1: Decision. This is why I get, This is why I

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Speaker 1: don't have to run for elective office. I can actually

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Speaker 1: tell you the truth as opposed to having to lie

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Speaker 1: to everybody and be like, hey, it's a magical world.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna get more money than you ever put in

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Speaker 1: and there's not gonna be any consequences. Hey, yay, everybody

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Speaker 1: gets ice cream every day for meals. Let's eat birthday

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Speaker 3: The big news the day at the top of the show,

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Speaker 3: just to recap, right as we came on air, I mean,

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Speaker 3: within moments, the Senate had passed on a fifty one

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Speaker 3: to fifty vote, the Big Beautiful Bill Jdvay.

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Speaker 2: It's had to be the.

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Speaker 3: Tie break on that one. Tom Tillis, Rand Paul, who's

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Speaker 3: the somebody else didn't get Oh Collins didn't vote for me.

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Speaker 3: So yep, that was what happened there. Now, thank you

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Speaker 3: play for the catch. It goes back to the House

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Speaker 3: side before it goes to the President's desk for signature.

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Speaker 3: The House is gonna there's gonna be some squawking from

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Speaker 3: the Freedom Caucus about it. I don't think they're going

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Speaker 3: to sabotage the Trump agenda at this late moment on

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Speaker 3: the big beautiful bill, but.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna be.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna, you know, look, they're allowed to have their

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Speaker 3: say on it, and they will. So that will be

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Speaker 3: a thing that occurs in the next few days and

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Speaker 3: we're probably gonna get to a signature before the holiday.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully that is how this will go. So that's the

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Speaker 3: big news. And then we had the most interesting visit

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Speaker 3: of the day was Donald Trump going down to Alligator Alcatraz,

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Speaker 3: which is in o Choppy, oh Choppy, Florida, which is

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Speaker 3: near Everglades City, which I can tell you is not

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Speaker 3: really much of a city. It is really middle of Nowheresville.

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Speaker 2: I think o Choppy, uh is.

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Speaker 3: It has one hundred people something like that lives and

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Speaker 3: lives in the in the It is unincorporated territory, so

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Speaker 3: it's not even I think a township per se. It's

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Speaker 3: quite small. But that was the one if you're wondering,

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Speaker 3: it wasn't Lake Okachobe. I know Lake Okachobe. O Choppi

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Speaker 3: was the new place. So that's where they have this

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Speaker 3: airstrip that is a place to put illegal migrants, illegal

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Speaker 3: aliens before they are deported. And Trump is saying, if

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Speaker 3: you try to run from the gators or swim from

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Speaker 3: the gators, it's going to be a bad day for you.

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Speaker 3: So there's all that going on, and then he got

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Speaker 3: into Kami, Mom, Donnie, do you have anything in the

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Speaker 3: alligator Alcatraz. The team is saying that all you have

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Speaker 3: to do is be able to not zigzag but outrun

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Speaker 3: the nearest person to you, which is that is always true,

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Speaker 3: and that is mean. That's very mean. Clay would Clay

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Speaker 3: would not leave me behind to get eaten by gators, right, Clay?

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Speaker 3: Probably correct?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I would be Again I've said on this program before,

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Speaker 1: I am prepared to save anyone from an alligator attack.

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Speaker 1: If you see me near a swamp, I've got your back.

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Speaker 1: So uh, just don't go in the water. But if

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Speaker 1: they come out of the water, like in Crocodile Dundee,

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Speaker 1: I know that's crocodile versus an alligator, then I'll be

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Speaker 1: like mc dundee right there to protect you. By the way,

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Speaker 1: that movie also still a lot of fun. If you've

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Speaker 1: got kids and you want to watch some movies during

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Speaker 1: the July fourth holiday, whether it's not great, maybe you're

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Speaker 1: sitting around. We've been watching all the Harry Potter movies

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Speaker 1: in the Travis household and there's still really good, So

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Speaker 1: props JK. Rowling. I think she may have a future

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Speaker 1: in this creative industry space. But that alligator Alcatraz thing,

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Speaker 1: and I think I know we said it last hour,

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Speaker 1: but I do think it's so important. Trump and DeSantis

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Speaker 1: are a whale of a team. And I know Ron

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Speaker 1: DeSantis only has whatever it is, a year and a

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Speaker 1: half left basically as the governor of Florida, but I

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Speaker 1: would not be surprised if DeSantis ends up in some

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Speaker 1: form or fashion as a part of Trump two point

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Speaker 1: oh cabinet. And what I mean by that is there's

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Speaker 1: constant doing these jobs takes a lot. So so far

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Speaker 1: we have had pretty great stability in Trump two point

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Speaker 1: oh cabinet universe. But at some point some of these guys,

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Speaker 1: probably after and gals after the midterms, are going to

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Speaker 1: start to say, Hey, I want to do something different.

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Speaker 1: I'm burned out two years of going full speed doing X,

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Speaker 1: Y or Z. There's something else that I want to do.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't shock me if Trump comes back to DeSantis.

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Speaker 1: Remember there was some talk about Desantus potentially being the

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Speaker 1: Secretary of Defense when it was uncertain about whether hegg

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Speaker 1: Seth was going to be confirmed. And that's another example

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Speaker 1: of jd Vance breaking a tie fifty to fifty in

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Speaker 1: the Senate. Jd Vance gets the vote to get heg

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Speaker 1: set then and Pete has done a very very good job.

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Speaker 1: Since this is also an example in the big beautiful Bill,

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Speaker 1: you've got jd Vance breaking the tie. This is why

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Speaker 1: having a little bit of a buffer in the Senate

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Speaker 1: fifty three forty seven. Uh man, it would be great

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Speaker 1: to be up to fifty four or fifty five or

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Speaker 1: fifty six as it pertains to where we're headed on next.

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Speaker 1: But the Trump DeSantis relationship very strong, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's important to point out that by and large, most

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Speaker 1: of you out there who voted Trump, I really can

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Speaker 1: hardly point to anything in the first six months and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: I think Trump could have done a better job on this.

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Speaker 1: Politics the art of the possible. So I understand that

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Speaker 1: people are saying, oh, this is my number one issue,

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Speaker 1: and this hasn't been addressed completely to the ability that

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Speaker 1: I would like. You can't make people do what there

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Speaker 1: is not the political will for them to do. So

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Speaker 1: you and Ibuck, we talked about this somem earlier, were

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Speaker 1: very troubled by the national debt. When the Tea Party

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Speaker 1: got its start, national debt was ten trillion dollars. National

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Speaker 1: debt is soon going to be forty trillion dollars. That's untenable.

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Speaker 1: But until there is a political will to address it,

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Speaker 1: and you can't solve it by increasing tax rates, that

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Speaker 1: doesn't work. Ultimately, I think you're going to have to

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Speaker 1: dial back spending. This is inevitable, but that political will

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Speaker 1: is not there yet. So in the meantime you have

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Speaker 1: two options. You can either whine and complain, and some

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Speaker 1: people are choosing that because it's not kick your legs,

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Speaker 1: scream like a child, have a temper tantrum, or you

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Speaker 1: can do what you and I are talking about. Now, Hey,

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Speaker 1: this bill is going to pass, and now it's time

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Speaker 1: to try to figure out how do we grow the

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Speaker 1: economy as rapidly as we possibly can to help to

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Speaker 1: lead to a surplus through growth as opposed to a

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Speaker 1: surplus through cuts. That is the new hope, and to me,

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Speaker 1: if we can get it to three four percent growth,

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Speaker 1: everything changes.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So that's the case for optimism, and I agree

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Speaker 3: with you on that. The case for optimism is not

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Speaker 3: that everyone's going to see the wisdom of Iran sorright

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Speaker 3: Ran Paul's math and make massive changes to the biggest

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Speaker 3: spending programs and priorities of the United States government now and.

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Speaker 2: For the last well all of our lifetimes. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's not going to happen.

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Speaker 3: Trump just has the economy so juiced and so in fuego,

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Speaker 3: that's some very good things can happen. What will make

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Speaker 3: things a lot worse is if the commedi mom Donnie

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Speaker 3: is able to take control. Trump spoke about this. There's

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Speaker 3: a marine one noise in the background, but we wanted

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Speaker 3: you to hear this. This is cut seven. This is look.

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Speaker 3: Even President Trump's winning and we all see this. This

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Speaker 3: is concerning when somebody gets the wind that is back

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Speaker 3: in someplace as important as New York City play it.

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Speaker 5: I think he's terri book.

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Speaker 4: He's a communist.

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Speaker 5: The last thing we need is a communist. I said

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Speaker 5: there will never be socialism in the United States, so

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Speaker 5: we have a communist. I think he's bad to and

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Speaker 5: I think I'm gonna have a lot of fun with

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Speaker 5: him watching him because he has stick up right, but

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Speaker 5: with Joney to get his funny and so what, he's

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Speaker 5: not going to run away with anything. I think he's Frankly,

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Speaker 5: I've heard he's your total nutjob.

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Speaker 2: I think the people who.

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Speaker 5: In New York are crazy. He said they go this route.

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Speaker 1: I think they're crazy.

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Speaker 4: We will have a communist in the for the first time,

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Speaker 4: really a pure true communist. He wants to operate the

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Speaker 4: grocery stores, the department stores. What about the people like that?

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Speaker 4: I think it's.

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Speaker 3: Crazy, Yeah, Clay, it is crazy. And I understand that

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Speaker 3: there's this sense that it's limited to New York. But

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Speaker 3: AOC and Bernie Sanders, they co sign really all of

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Speaker 3: this stuff, and they're the Democrats that have the most

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Speaker 3: currency with the base. And it is a Democrat party

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Speaker 3: that came within a few hundred thousand votes of Trump,

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Speaker 3: even after lying about Biden's dementia and putting forward the

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Speaker 3: worst candidate in our lifetime in Kamala Harris. So I mean,

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Speaker 3: I would argue even worse than the dementia guy, which

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Speaker 3: tells you a lot. So we have to take this Seriously,

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Speaker 3: people ask how does the Democratic Party come back?

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Speaker 2: It's not hard.

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Speaker 3: They were close even in this election and aggregate numbers.

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Speaker 3: When you really look at it, there are a lot

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Speaker 3: of people who are voting Democrat no matter who they

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Speaker 3: put forward, no matter how crazy the idea is. And

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Speaker 3: Mom Donni, I think is just a symptom of that

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Speaker 3: larger malady.

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Speaker 1: And again I'm gonna keep hammering it. If there is

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Speaker 1: not a coalition that arises to all come together to

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Speaker 1: oppose Mamdanni. If you have Eric Adams running as an independent,

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Speaker 1: Andrew Cuomo running as an independent, uh, and you have

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Speaker 1: a situation where Curtis Sliwa is the Republican that trio

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Speaker 1: is going to assure that Mam Donnie wins. So the

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Speaker 1: only way in New York City rejects Mamdanni and has

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Speaker 1: some form of sanity in terms of who it's selecting

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Speaker 1: as its next mayor is if there's a understanding that

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Speaker 1: they cannot all run and there is a coalition of

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Speaker 1: opposition that comes together to try and defeat Mam Donnie.

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Speaker 1: My concern is everybody's going to look out for their

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Speaker 1: best interest, meaning we're going to get more attention if

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Speaker 1: you stay in the race, and everybody else loses, and

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Speaker 1: there isn't a coalition brought together to come against him.

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Speaker 1: And I think what Trump is talking about in general

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Speaker 1: is the opposition that he sees from all these sanctuary

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Speaker 1: cities as the process is underway to deport so many

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Speaker 1: different people is a direct opposition to the federal government

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Speaker 1: and should not be acceptable. And at some point, I

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Speaker 1: think there's going to have to be a test case

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Speaker 1: of someone, probably a mayor that is one of these

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Speaker 1: sanctuary cities that is directly defying federal law, and we're

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Speaker 1: going to have to have the court's rule about whether

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Speaker 1: or not that is permissible or appropriate, because I don't

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Speaker 1: understand we made this argument, and the Supreme Court has

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Speaker 1: set it quite clearly. The President of the United States

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Speaker 1: is in charge of border related policies, immigration, all of

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Speaker 1: those things. How can we allow all of these individual

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Speaker 1: cities and certainly governors of states, But it's really being

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Speaker 1: driven more by mayors of cities that have decided that

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Speaker 1: they are sanctuaries. How can we allow them to directly

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Speaker 1: defy federal law. At some point that conflict is going

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Speaker 1: to have to be resolved in some way by the

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Speaker 1: larger court system. It feels inevitable to me.

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Speaker 3: Well, get some calls and some talkbacks coming up here

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Speaker 3: in a second. I want to hear from all of

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Speaker 3: you before Clayon and I sent off for the holiday.

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Speaker 3: And like I said, Tutor Dixon and tomorrow Brian Mudd

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Speaker 3: in the next day got great guess hos, We've got

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Speaker 3: live shows coming up for you with fantastic content.

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Speaker 2: But clay is going to be on the beach. I

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Speaker 2: might even get to the beach, and it's fun. I live.

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Speaker 1: You don't to the beach.

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Speaker 3: I don't really get to the beach very often, which

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Speaker 3: is weird considering I live next to one of the

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Speaker 3: nicest beaches in America. Some would argue for an urban beach.

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Speaker 3: For an urban beach, okay, don't.

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Speaker 2: Be like, well, what about Tahiti or what about you know.

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Speaker 3: The Seychelles one of the nicest urban beaches anywhere in

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Speaker 3: the world. So yeah, I should get to the beach too.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about it. Take some calls eight hundred two

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Speaker 2: We're having a great time. We appreciate you being with us.

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Speaker 2: For cooking on the grill, which is the thing you

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Speaker 3: You don't want to get too much, too much of

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Speaker 3: But if you want someone to listen to, or if

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Speaker 3: you're going to be out there, I don't know, on

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Speaker 3: the boat, in the yard, whatever it is, listen to

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Speaker 3: Clay and Buck podcast Network. Fantastic people there, David Ruther

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Speaker 3: Dixon'll be in for us tomorrow and our friend Brian

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Speaker 3: Muddle being for us the next day after that. So

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Speaker 3: you got great shows coming up your way. We have

870
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 3: a wow lot of talkbacks and a lot of calls,

871
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 3: a lot of good things going on here. Joe from

872
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 3: Let's Take HH, Joe from Mesa, Arizona.

873
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: Hey Joe and Mesa.

874
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 6: I was trying to explain to my friend just like

875
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 6: why most of America doesn't even care about the deportations

876
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 6: that are happening, and he flipped out on me and

877
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,479
Speaker 6: was saying that I needed to admit that I hate

878
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 6: every other race other than my own anyways. So in

879
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 6: the end, they're just totally brainwashed and there's nothing you

880
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 6: can do.

881
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 3: The law either matters or a dozen has nothing to

882
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 3: do with race, has to do with being a rule

883
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 3: of law society.

884
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: Clay.

885
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, I think that a lot of people

886
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: are dialed out and just randomly buy into all of

887
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: the historyonics. I mean, I think a perfect example of

888
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: this is, you know we're going to hit right now.

889
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: The stock market is up again today for another high.

890
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: It was only two months ago that they were telling

891
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: you that everything was going to collapse and that you

892
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: needed to make sure that you sold all your stocks,

893
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: and that we were headed for basically a nuclear winter

894
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 1: and from an economic perspective, and it just hasn't happened.

895
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: And so I think the total fear there is it

896
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: works on a lot of people, and they are aware

897
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: that emotionally they can play on people's failings as it

898
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: pertains to that. Basically we have next up here, a

899
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: lot of Lord of the Rings nerds in this audience.

900
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 2: Oh we didn't get we said we were gonna do

901
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: the movie thing.

902
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I thought, of times I was doing

903
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: my research here New York Times Best Now, this is

904
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: a little bit of a frustration because.

905
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: People don't pay.

906
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 3: It's like when you had a teacher that said, make

907
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 3: sure you read the instructions for the exam before you

908
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 3: take the exam. It's the best movies of the twenty

909
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 3: first century. So anybody who's jumping in with Braveheart or

910
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 3: you know which I love and would be my overall choice,

911
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 3: overall favorite movie all time. That's nineteen ninety eight, I think,

912
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 3: or six or I forget when to nine? I don't know,

913
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 3: but it was definitely in the twentyeth twenty two zero,

914
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 3: twenty eighth century, twenty first century best Movies of the

915
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 3: twenty first century.

916
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 2: This is the New York Times list that came out.

917
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 2: We got a producer.

918
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 3: I got all of you to tell me your picks,

919
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 3: and I thought they were pretty solid. And let's say

920
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 3: all of you, I mean our team in New York,

921
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 3: New York team. Let's start with you, Ali, Producer, Ali,

922
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 3: what was your best movie of the twenty first century?

923
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 3: You had time to think about this, so you're on

924
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 3: the hot seat now if you forgot what is it?

925
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm totally on the hot seat. I had

926
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 1: gone with Gladiator, but I had the years all wrong. Yeah,

927
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 1: I don't think it came about hold On Gill two thousand. Ye,

928
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: it counts in the New York Times list, it does,

929
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: because that's that's technically the twenty eighth century. They have

930
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: it down at ninety two, so they are counting anything

931
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: that's two thousand and beyond.

932
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: Well, that's an outrage.

933
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 3: First of all, the fact that they're counting it and

934
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 3: they're putting it at ninety two is an outrage because Ali,

935
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 3: I'd be it would be a top fiver for me,

936
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 3: top fiver for sure.

937
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 2: They put Parasite at number one a foreign.

938
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 3: Film, as the best movie of the twenty first century,

939
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 3: which which I think is mad at producer Mike.

940
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 2: What was yours? You had a good one?

941
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 3: Dark Knight? Well you dark Knight or was that Greg?

942
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 3: What does producer Mike say, producer dark Knight.

943
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 2: Dark Knight. Yeah, he was Dark Knight.

944
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 3: Solid. I can't I can't quibble with that. I have

945
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 3: watched that movie probably one hundred times. I enjoyed the

946
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 3: Dark Knight. He really brought back people think now all

947
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 3: the Batman franchise, huge franchise that was. It was on

948
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 3: the ropes after a couple of really bad Batman movies

949
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 3: that bombed big time, including one with I think the

950
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 3: girl from Clueless was in it, Alicia Silverstone.

951
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 2: There was a George kloe No, don't even remembers.

952
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 3: George Clooney played Batman and it was such a bad

953
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 3: movie that people don't even remember that he was Batman.

954
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 3: So there, so the Dark Knight was came back from

955
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 3: The Batman Begins and The Dark Knight both great, great options.

956
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 3: Remember twenty first century, we're looking at Clay, what was yours?

957
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: I broke it down trio meaning because to me, there

958
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: is there's a difference between a kid movie, there's a

959
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: difference between a comedy, and there's a difference between a

960
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: dramedy drama. So I went with I agree the whole

961
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: Christopher Nolan Batman trilogy, The Dark Knight, that that is

962
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: really phenomenal, well done up I think was the best

963
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: of the Pixar movies. Up If You Up is so

964
00:50:54,960 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 1: well done. And then I think the funniest movie of

965
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: the twenty first century, I think it's old school. I

966
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: just think it is absolutely hysterical funny.

967
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 3: Well that's not even a category. And now you're making

968
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 3: up categories funniest.

969
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 2: You think Old School is the funniest movie of the

970
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 2: twenty first century.

971
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: What's funnier than Old School?

972
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I think forty year old vision is funnier

973
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 2: than Old School.

974
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: Forty year old version is very funny. Super Bad is

975
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: very funny. Like there's a series of four or five movies.

976
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: I think that you could argue, I think the combination

977
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 1: of Will Ferrell Vince Vaughan is tough to be. Wedding

978
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: Crashers also really really funny and well done. But I

979
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: think you have to consider what again, best doesn't mean.

980
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: Citizen Kane is a phenomenal movie. We talked about yesterday.

981
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: Shindler's List is a phenomenal movie. It's hard to sit

982
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: down and just be like, hey, let's have some popcorn

983
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: and watch Schimdler's List.

984
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 3: Well, this is this is like how I feel about

985
00:51:54,600 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 3: The Pianist p I A N I S T. To

986
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 3: be clear, the pianist is a or the pianist maybe

987
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 3: some people.

988
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 2: Say it that way.

989
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 3: Is I think a perfect movie, meaning it is incredibly

990
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 3: well done, and every aspect of it, from the acting

991
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 3: to the writing, to the to this sound, you know,

992
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 3: to the soundtrack to the I think it's a perfect.

993
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 2: Movie, but it's intense.

994
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 3: It's World War Two, it's you know, it's a Jewish

995
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 3: guy who's trying to flee the you know the at

996
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 3: one point it's his neighbors and the Nazis. And The

997
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 3: Pianist is an incredible movie, but I can't say it's

998
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 3: my favorite movie because if the Dark Knight trilogy or

999
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 3: the Lord of the Rings movies are on, I'm watching

1000
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 3: those instead of The Pianist. I'm just I'm not gonna

1001
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 3: lie and be that guy, which brings me to I

1002
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 3: think they're private producer, Greg, what was your pick?

1003
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 2: You didn't give us. You didn't give us your We're.

1004
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 3: Trying to help you, by the way, for the holiday weekend, everybody,

1005
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 3: if you haven't seen any of these, we're giving you

1006
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 3: great recommendations for I would argue The Lives of other

1007
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 3: is a pretty perfect movie, although it is German Languge,

1008
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 3: which U and that is twenty first century, but again,

1009
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 3: it's not a You still haven't even watched that, have you?

1010
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 3: You and Laura haven't watched the Lives of Others and

1011
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 3: you have? Okay, maybe that one because it's foreign language.

1012
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 3: I can see Laara being like Clay. Don't don't you know,

1013
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 3: don't torture us. You guys haven't watched Hacksaw Ridge, which

1014
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 3: is insane because that was I gave you that assignment

1015
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 3: a long time ago.

1016
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: That movie would be fair. To be fair to me.

1017
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: I barely see anything. I watch stuff with my kids,

1018
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: which is why I've been watching Harry Potter.

1019
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 3: I watch hundreds of hours of college football, hundreds of

1020
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 3: I was.

1021
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: Gonna say, and I watch a lot of sports. Let

1022
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 1: me give you an underrated movie that I think seems

1023
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: even more contemporary than it was when it came out.

1024
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: Minority Report.

1025
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 2: Ah suck No.

1026
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: I'm telling you go back and watch it now. In

1027
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: an age of AI, it seems eerily prescient in terms

1028
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: of its foreshadowing of where producer.

1029
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 2: Greg is gonna weigh in.

1030
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 3: He was a he wanted to get in on this,

1031
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 3: Producer Greg, best movie of the twenty first century.

1032
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 2: If you were making this New York Times list, what's

1033
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 2: number one? Dark Knight?

1034
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 3: I'm with, I'm with, Oh your Dark Knight got you?

1035
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 3: I thought I thought we had double Dark Knight. That's

1036
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,720
Speaker 3: a Heath Ledger's performance as the Joker is the best

1037
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 3: bad guy performance that uh that I think you ca

1038
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 3: it's that it's the No country for old men with

1039
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 3: what's his name? Uh, you know Lvier Bardem, Javier Bardem

1040
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 3: and Hans Gruber in die Hard, which was the first

1041
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 3: time that guy was.

1042
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 2: Ever in a movie, which is still amazing, The Dark.

1043
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: Knight, knowing that Heath Ledger was going to in some

1044
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 1: way kill himself. Like I watch it now, and you're right,

1045
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: the performance is incredible, But when I watch it, in

1046
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: the back of my mind, I'm thinking, in order to

1047
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: become this good, he had to go to such a

1048
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: dark place and it felt to me like a lot

1049
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: of people who are actors and actresses, it's not actually

1050
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: that talented, you know what I mean, Like there are

1051
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: lots of people who are whatever. Heath Ledger, that was

1052
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: actually an artistic performance as the Joker, but I think

1053
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: it led him into a world where his brain like

1054
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: almost broke.

1055
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 5: You know.

1056
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 2: He went into the darkness, went into the darkness too much.

1057
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 3: That has happened with people that get too into a role,

1058
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 3: A lot of people very high in Because I saw

1059
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 3: a lot of comments about this because I was on

1060
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 3: I was on with Will Caine and Carol Markowitz on

1061
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 3: Will's show on Fox Play and that's where this got

1062
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 3: some attention. A lot of people have as their top movies.

1063
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 3: I would say the ones that I saw the most.

1064
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 3: For all of you, all of you out there, I

1065
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 3: say the one that I saw the most. As a

1066
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 3: number one choice was either There Will Be Blood or

1067
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 3: No Country for Old Men for best Movie the twenty

1068
00:55:55,280 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 3: first century. I view those as both excellent movies, but

1069
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 3: it also goes in that category. There Will Be Blood

1070
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 3: for me is like watching a masterclass of acting. Like

1071
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 3: obviously Daniel d Lewis is phenomenal and the performances are.

1072
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 2: But do I care about anybody in this story? Really No?

1073
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 2: Do I like anybody?

1074
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 5: Really no?

1075
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 3: And then I think that unfortunately, No Country for Old

1076
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 3: Men again very well made, and I'm not saying it's

1077
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 3: not a good movie. I'm just saying, you know, if

1078
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 3: it's on, am I gonna watch it? It's so bleak

1079
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 3: and kind of nihilistic for me. So I can't get

1080
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 3: too excited about either one of those as a top

1081
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 3: ten of the twenty first century. They're both excellent movies,

1082
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 3: to be clear, but they're not movies. I've only watched

1083
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 3: each of those maybe twice, which for me is not

1084
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Speaker 3: very many.

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Speaker 1: I also, to me, when it's a book being made

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Speaker 1: into a movie, I think the excellence of the movie

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00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: in many ways reflects the book. And Cormac McCarthy is

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Speaker 1: probably the greatest author now I'm really gonna get people fired,

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Speaker 1: probably the greatest author of the last thirty years. And

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Speaker 1: I know he died a couple of years ago, but

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Speaker 1: if you look at his production in terms of his talent,

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Speaker 1: and you go all the way back, he moved eventually

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Speaker 1: his fiction to basically the border with Texas and Mexico,

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Speaker 1: but he started off as a Tennessee based writer, and

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Speaker 1: I think he's probably the most talented writer in America

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Speaker 1: in the last thirty years. And so No Country for

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Speaker 1: Old Men is a novel by him, and I think

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Speaker 1: it just reflects the world that he created on the

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Speaker 1: screen and is actually an illustration of his excellence as

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Speaker 1: a writer more than it is as a film. Does

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Speaker 1: that make sense? Like if you said, hey, the Great Gatsby,

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Speaker 1: which it isn't and it's been made multiple times, most

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Speaker 1: recently with Leonardo DiCaprio, If you said The Great Gatsby

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Speaker 1: is the best movie that's ever been made, I would

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Speaker 1: be like, well, it a phenomenal novel, and so to me,

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Speaker 1: I strip out anything that isn't an original movie as

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Speaker 1: a great movie. Does that make sense to us as

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Speaker 1: a reflection of the of the book?

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Speaker 3: More than one talkback here before we get into more

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Speaker 3: talkbacks and calls to close us out. AA podcast listeners

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Speaker 3: Zeb from Texas play.

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Speaker 7: It, play in book. This is Zeb from Texas Love

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Speaker 7: your show, listen to you every day since she took

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Speaker 7: over for us. Ditto maybe hey, listen, I'm so disappointed

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Speaker 7: in the Yellow Question producer Greg after he's led you

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Speaker 7: right so many times. Minus Tirith is the capital city

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Speaker 7: have gone door after ausc Eliath was destroyed by the

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Speaker 7: Orcs and the Battle of Saaron, Trust your man.

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Speaker 1: I just this is the nerdiest thing that has ever

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Speaker 1: been said on the show, which is I just love

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 3: We have listeners who clearly clearly have a twelve gage

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Speaker 3: across the backseat of the car, have a stetson on

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Speaker 3: and cowboy boots, and they're lecturing us about Minas tirith

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Speaker 3: as this of gon As the capital of Gondor after Osilius,

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Speaker 3: of course, was destroyed by the Orcs and the Battle

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Speaker 3: of Sauron. That is that is our that is our

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Speaker 3: Texas audience rolling around in a pickup ready for any

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Speaker 2: But you get Lord of the Rings wrong and they're

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Speaker 2: dropping knowledge on you.

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Speaker 1: The correction yesterday that I read is the nerdiest thing

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Speaker 1: that's ever been said on the show. That talkback in

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Speaker 1: Buck's analysis of it is the second nerdiest thing that's

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Speaker 1: ever been said on the show. In the meantime, I

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