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Speaker 5: Another football season upon us.

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Speaker 6: We were talking about this, you know, during our meeting

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Speaker 6: before the show. It feels like that that weight prior

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Speaker 6: to football is really really long. And then when it

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Speaker 6: starts showing up on your doorstep, you're again again. You're

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Speaker 6: just like, oh, yeah, it never left us, did it?

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Speaker 6: It never left us?

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited, guys. I mean, I was trying to.

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Speaker 3: I was pondering, as in my head.

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Speaker 7: So next week is week zero, so that would that

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Speaker 7: make this week double zero?

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Speaker 3: And I know everyone hates the double.

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Speaker 7: Zero on the roulette wheel, but I mean it is

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Speaker 7: Vegas and we are gambling, so I thought it was fitting.

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Speaker 3: But this is week double zero, deal with it.

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Speaker 5: I like it.

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Speaker 3: Are we getting?

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Speaker 4: Not to take you completely off track, but are we

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Speaker 4: getting double zeros in the NFL this year?

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Speaker 3: I know we're getting I think zero. No, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if we're it. I know we're getting zeros. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The definitely have that.

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Speaker 5: Preseason games these are not very good.

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Speaker 6: It's it's open revolt from the players and coaches. But

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Speaker 6: I think the pandemic taught the world a lot of things.

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Speaker 6: But what the pandemic taught the NFL is the preseason,

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Speaker 6: especially the games are no longer needed. A lot of

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Speaker 6: these teams are practicing the week prior to the games

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Speaker 6: against the teams that they're going to face. During the games,

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Speaker 6: they get all of the ones, ones reps that they

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Speaker 6: need to see, protecting their guys, getting their stars, a

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Speaker 6: couple of reps in some really crucial spots, and that

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Speaker 6: that's about it. That's about all you want to risk.

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Speaker 6: And we talk about risk a lot on this show.

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Speaker 6: You know, this is a show where we're focusing on

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Speaker 6: football and we're countdown to kickoff show, but we're also

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Speaker 6: talking betting. We're also talking about putting a little skin

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Speaker 6: in the game. Well, ultimately, that's what football is. It's

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Speaker 6: the ultimate bet. We're betting that we're gonna be healthier

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Speaker 6: than you, we're gonna have a better game plan than you.

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Speaker 6: We're going to have more people to throw out this

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Speaker 6: problem than you have. Who would want to waste all

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Speaker 6: of that risk proposition now, so we're seeing some of

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Speaker 6: the worst football we've seen in a long time in

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Speaker 6: the preseason, It's true.

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Speaker 7: The one thing that's tough too is I just think overall,

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Speaker 7: the starters don't play enough to even make a difference

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Speaker 7: most nights in terms of the line and in terms

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Speaker 7: of where the market like we hear, hey, the starters

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Speaker 7: are gonna play. Oh wow, and then all of a

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Speaker 7: sudden we see the number move. But then the starters

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Speaker 7: play one series and then it's like, Okay, well that

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Speaker 7: didn't really move the needle too much. I think betting

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Speaker 7: preseason football is probably the least favorite of my of

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Speaker 7: my football wagering tactics. Like I'll maybe I think so

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Speaker 7: far I've made two bets the whole preseason, and I

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Speaker 7: might make one more or two more max And then really.

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Speaker 3: The the real kit and kaboodles next week.

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Speaker 7: Next week, when we get some real college games that

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Speaker 3: But right now, I mean, it's just it is a

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Speaker 7: Shit in the second half of these NFL preseason games

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Speaker 7: is really really tough.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you could get some value on the first half,

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Speaker 4: I feel like, but man, it's a recipe to just

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Speaker 4: feel like an idiot if you lose a preseason bet,

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Speaker 3: You lose a bet and you're like, well, I'm twoing

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Speaker 3: on so far in the preseason, how about that?

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Speaker 5: Well that's very.

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Speaker 6: Good for you know, there's a lot of people who

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Speaker 4: I'll give you a brief preseason store action minimum. So

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Speaker 4: I had some cash on the in game under last

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Speaker 4: week in the Carolina Jets game.

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Speaker 3: You'd love this as a Jets guy. Jared oh Man.

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Speaker 4: So it's twenty six and a half in game I

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Speaker 4: took under, Jets are leading twenty to nothing, there are

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Speaker 4: By some time, guy is wide open, touchdown, extra point.

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Speaker 3: I lose definitely. Yeah, well, and I'm like, what was

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Speaker 6: But because you're logical, because your brain is logical, because

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Speaker 6: you're like, yeah, under normal circumstances, this bet makes perfect

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Speaker 6: sense because this is this is what you do, right,

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Speaker 6: this is how this works. But in the preseason, like

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Speaker 8: Just rip up the old head coaching playbook and rules

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Speaker 8: and regulations that you say, we have an opportunity in

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Speaker 8: a live game situation to see how this group of

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Speaker 6: And we're going to run our favorite low red zone

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Speaker 6: play that didn't work at practice or did work at

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Speaker 6: practice against a live defense, and we're gonna see if

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Speaker 6: we can sneak one in there. And so, like you know,

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Speaker 6: the frustration for all the betters out there who probably

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Speaker 6: took a bath right.

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Speaker 5: There next with next to you.

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Speaker 6: I mean, that's the general consensus is why do I

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Speaker 7: I've noticed too now that we social media is so

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Speaker 7: gambling tool as well. Call it community if you want, gambling, Twitter,

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Speaker 7: other sport besides maybe an NBA playoff game, brings the

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Speaker 7: and even the preseason when it's a big moment, like

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Speaker 7: even be for example, Bjeon Robinson's first run last night,

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Speaker 7: Bengals guy overran the play.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it was a nice run, but it wasn't

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Speaker 7: It would have been in the Hall of very good runs,

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Speaker 7: not the Hall of Fame runs. But the way that

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Speaker 7: Jon Robinson Rookie of the Year, a thousand yard season,

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Speaker 3: Only the NFL can move the needle like that on

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Speaker 4: Well, we have real football right around the corner, which

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Speaker 4: is probably a better betting opportunity.

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Speaker 4: Progressive dot com. So we got a couple of qb ones.

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Speaker 4: We have Sam Howell, Washington Commander's QB one. We've got

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Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson Colt's QB one. That's the latest this week.

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Speaker 4: And I've got a simple question for you guys. Who's

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Speaker 4: gonna do better in twenty twenty three. I think it's

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Speaker 4: going to be Sam Howell. I know that sounds crazy.

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Speaker 4: It's a fifth round pick compared to a fourth overall pick.

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Speaker 4: But Sam Howell is not a rookie. That helps Sam

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Speaker 4: Howell through eleven hundred and seventeen passes in college compared

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Speaker 4: to Anthony Richardson throwing three ninety three.

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Speaker 3: So Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't have as much experience as Sam Howell does. And

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Speaker 4: I like the weapons around Sam Howel better with Washington,

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Speaker 4: I think Sam Howell is gonna do better than Anthony Richardson,

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Speaker 4: he looked like a fish out of water last week

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Speaker 6: Well, it's very possible that Howell gets off to a

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Speaker 6: hotter start because of comfort level. You know, he's not

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Speaker 6: a rookie. That does matter, and even though he barely played,

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Speaker 6: it does not matter when you're talking about a guy

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Speaker 6: just getting used to being around his teammates and knowing

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Speaker 6: all the coaches on staph Like I bet you if

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Speaker 6: you asked Anthony Richardson to name by name name all

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Speaker 6: the coaches on his staff, he'd probably struggle to get

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Speaker 6: beyond four. That's what I mean, is your comfort level?

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Speaker 6: Like he probably can't even name all his teammates, like

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Speaker 6: he just got there, So at first I could see

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Speaker 6: your point. However, talent wins Man and Anthony Richardson in

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Speaker 6: terms of being an athlete and a dual threat quarterback,

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Speaker 6: you're looking at a person who can be like the

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Speaker 6: vitamin C to an offense. When things are going poorly

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Speaker 6: For Anthony Richardson, he always has that one ejector seat

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Speaker 6: that puts the defense on tilt that very few human

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Speaker 6: and that's what Shane Stike in head coach, offensive minded

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Speaker 5: Is going to be looking for him to do.

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Speaker 6: But I think when it all shakes out, assuming health,

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Speaker 6: I think Anthony Richardson's gonna have this stronger year because

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Speaker 7: I mean, so, it's just it's a different vibe right

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Speaker 7: But I think over time I agree rich I think

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Speaker 4: This day, I'm so sick of this Anthony Richardson malarkey.

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Speaker 4: You got Anthony Richardson with what seventeen touchdowns, nine picks,

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Speaker 4: He's got thirteen starts in his college career under four

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Speaker 3: I just don't see it.

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Speaker 4: It's been potential to this point over production that's got

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Speaker 3: It's it's a hoop dream. It's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, he's got a lot of ability, but at

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Speaker 4: Look at Josh Allen of the Bills. He didn't crush

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Speaker 4: This dude is a baller already. I don't see it

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Speaker 6: I just don't know how you look at Sam Howell

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Speaker 6: I understand that. But he played in basically an RPO

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Speaker 6: You know this is a guy who never, I mean

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Speaker 6: Sam Howell never did that for me. So I'm not

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Speaker 5: That Who's next?

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Speaker 6: On the wheel of quarterbacks that we're gonna throw into

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Speaker 7: And I think that's a fair that's a fair question

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Speaker 7: Like if you want to back, I think, but that's

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Speaker 7: Part of the quarterback position is the future. Are you

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Speaker 7: I agree with your statement. I think statistically speaking, Howell

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Speaker 4: where basically the odds are saying Georgia has three times

439
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Speaker 4: as good of a shot to win a national championship

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Speaker 4: than Alabama and everybody else, their odds are that much

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Speaker 4: shorter than everybody else's next in line. I won't give

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Speaker 4: you the whole list, but Ohio State seven to one,

443
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Speaker 4: Michigan eight to one, LSU is twelve to one, then

444
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Speaker 4: USC is next in line at fourteen to one. It

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Speaker 4: is It's remarkable what Kirby Smart has done at Georgia,

446
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Speaker 4: obviously the last two national championships, but just to see

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Speaker 4: the current odds, I don't know about you, guys, but

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Speaker 4: it is shock value to me. I'm not disagreeing with

449
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Speaker 4: the odds, but just to see Georgia plus two twenty

450
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Speaker 4: five in Alabama plus six hundred, it's like, whoa two

451
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Speaker 4: to one versus six to one. That's wild to me.

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Speaker 6: It's a big I mean, it's a big disparity. I

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Speaker 6: don't know, man, Like I feel like we do this

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Speaker 6: a lot in sports, and when there's a team that

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Speaker 6: is emerging as a dynasty, like a Kansas City Chiefs,

456
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Speaker 6: like a Georgia Bulldogs in football, where it feels like

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Speaker 6: every single year in the preseason, on paper, they look great,

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Speaker 6: and then many of those seasons following those preseasons, they

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Speaker 6: look great.

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Speaker 5: You kind of get lulled into a little bit.

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Speaker 6: Of a false sense of security, like, well, the outcomes

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Speaker 6: are going to be the same every year. It's gonna

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Speaker 6: be Georgia in the final game. It's gonna be Kansas

464
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Speaker 6: City in the final game. Yeah, until they're not, you know,

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Speaker 6: because things happen. It's football. It's a war of attrition.

466
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Speaker 6: Star players get injured, Coaches make bad decisions in end

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Speaker 6: of game situations. You have moments that make up a season.

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Speaker 6: And so when you're staking your claim and you're staking

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Speaker 6: it on a bet where you're going to have to

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Speaker 6: put a significant chunk of change down now to even

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Speaker 6: get any value on the Bulldogs, I just to me,

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Speaker 6: I don't like it.

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Speaker 5: I just don't see the value.

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Speaker 6: I don't I don't even understand why lines get this crazy,

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Speaker 6: because it's just it's not worth anything to me right now.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think upside is the word I would use,

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Speaker 7: so for perspective. Last year, Alabama was the favorite at

478
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Speaker 7: basically two to one right starting the season and Georgia

479
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Speaker 7: was plus three fifteen.

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Speaker 3: So both of those teams were really tight on the

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Speaker 3: odds board.

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Speaker 7: And what plus two hundred means is basically a team

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Speaker 7: has a thirty three percent chance in the eyes of

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Speaker 7: the odds makers to win that to win that whatever

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Speaker 7: probability event. So basically they're telling you, in one out

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Speaker 7: of three hypothetical seasons, this year, Georgia's already the national champion,

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Speaker 7: we might as well not even play the season. And

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Speaker 7: for Alabama six to one, it's basically saying fourteen percent.

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Speaker 7: That's kind of what the eye that's mean. And we're

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Speaker 7: gonna talk about these odds a lot this year. We're

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Speaker 7: gonna throw out big odds. That year, we're gonna throw,

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Speaker 7: you know, minus two hundred odds at you. And that's

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Speaker 7: the that's the flip side of it, right If plus

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Speaker 7: two hundred is saying thirty percent, thirty three percent, and

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Speaker 7: then minus two hundred is the inverse sixty six point

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Speaker 7: sixty sixty sixty six six seven percent.

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Speaker 3: So keeps on the bosom. So I heard Slayer, keep

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Speaker 3: those odds in.

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Speaker 7: Mind as we go through the season, because we will

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Speaker 7: call back to them. And again, this is week double

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Speaker 7: zero of a show that is going to stretch through

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Speaker 7: the entire college football season and into the NFL playoffs.

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Speaker 7: The journey that the odds take throughout the season, frankly

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Speaker 7: is one of the most fascinating case studies in all

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Speaker 7: of sports.

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Speaker 3: I agree with Rich's sentiment one hundred percent.

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Speaker 7: If you want to bet, if you think Georgia is

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Speaker 7: gonna win the national title, if you think they are

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Speaker 7: that good and they're gonna make it a three peat

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Speaker 7: and they are the dynasty that everyone is thinking of,

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Speaker 7: you don't need to bet them now. You are going

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Speaker 7: to be able to get a similar number many weeks

513
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Speaker 7: into the season, and you will be able to collect

514
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Speaker 7: weeks of information like a sponge and see how this

515
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Speaker 7: new quarterback situation is gonna shake down, and see how

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Speaker 7: Oh by the way, Monkin the offensive coordinator, he's in

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Speaker 7: Baltimore now.

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot of changes with Georgia this year.

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Speaker 7: A lot of changes with Alabama too, new offensive coordinator,

520
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Speaker 7: new defensive coordinator, new quarterback, whole lot.

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Speaker 3: Of changes there.

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Speaker 7: So, to me, the top of the odds board in

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Speaker 7: college football it's not gonna move that dramatically over the

524
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Speaker 7: first few weeks, Watch the games, gather some opinions, and

525
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Speaker 7: then you can make a wager on those top tier teams.

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Speaker 4: You know what, I'm on no island today, Oh no, I'm.

527
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Speaker 3: Gonna he wants to bet Georgia.

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Speaker 4: Now, I'm gonna agree with you guys at some point.

529
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Speaker 4: But I'm just looking at George's schedule. I don't know

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Speaker 4: where the odds get longer than where they are right now.

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Speaker 4: Right their non conference schedule is a cake walk.

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Speaker 3: There.

533
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Speaker 4: SEC schedule is completely manageable. So I don't see them

534
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Speaker 4: losing a regular season game, maybe the SEC title game. Right,

535
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Speaker 4: that's your hope if you're hoping to get Georgia at

536
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Speaker 4: a better number, if you're like plus two to twenty five,

537
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Speaker 4: it's gotta be at least three to one for me

538
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Speaker 4: to jump on the dogs.

539
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Speaker 3: Fine, I get that. I just don't know that we're

540
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Speaker 3: gonna get there.

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Speaker 4: I don't see them losing in the regular season.

542
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Speaker 3: That's what three with that. But yeah, can still absorb

543
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Speaker 3: the first few weeks. It's not.

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Speaker 7: But my point is it's not gonna move down where

545
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Speaker 7: you're gonna miss the number after the first few weeks.

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Speaker 3: Either.

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Speaker 7: It's probably gonna stay relatively stationary. It doesn't have much

548
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Speaker 7: higher to go.

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Speaker 4: Okay, this is the one time coming up around the

550
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Speaker 4: corner I'm wildly inconsistent, and it actually feels good. I'm

551
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Speaker 4: actually totally fine with it. But I'm actually totally fine

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Speaker 4: with Isaac Klowen CRAWLN I need some.

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Speaker 3: I low with my sports world here in the morning.

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 9: I low Oh, We've got it all for you, fellas.

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Speaker 9: Good more go to you, and we start with Major

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Speaker 9: League Baseball on Friday night, where the Tampa Bay Raised

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Speaker 9: defe died the Los Angeles Angels in Anaheim in ten innings,

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Speaker 9: nine to six, despite the Angels turning their first triple

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Speaker 9: play in twenty six years and Shohi O'tani hitting a

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Speaker 9: Grand Slam home run his forty third of the season.

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Speaker 9: Typical Angels anyway. The Miami Marlins hit five home runs

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Speaker 9: and an eleven to three victory over the Dodgers in

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Speaker 9: Los Angeles, breaking the dodgers eleven game winning streak. Padres

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Speaker 9: over the Arizona Diamondbacks four, and I think San Diego

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Speaker 9: scored four in the eighth, including a two run home

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Speaker 9: run by Fernando Tatis Junior, his twentieth of the season.

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Speaker 9: NFL preseason on Friday Night, the Cincinnati Bengals and Atlanta

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Speaker 9: Falcons played to a thirteen to thirteen tie as Young

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Speaker 9: Way coup of Atlanta hit the game tying field goal

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Speaker 9: from forty five yards out with two seconds left in

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Speaker 9: the fourth quarter. Falcons quarterback Desmond Ritter seven of nine

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Speaker 9: for eighty yards, did have a pass intercepted, but it

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Speaker 9: was off a deflected pass. The New York Giants over

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Speaker 9: the Carolina Panthers twenty one to nineteen. Bryce Young completed

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Speaker 9: three of six for thirty five yards. Daniel Jones of

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Speaker 9: the Giants eight out of nine for sixty nine yards

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Speaker 9: and a touchdown. Finally, a bizarre story fellas k XAN

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Speaker 10: That's a lot of insurance commercials.

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Speaker 9: The petition reads, in part, and I quote petitioners simply

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: being wildly inconsistent here, but I'm okay with it. I

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Speaker 4: take it back in the hot SubTime machine to Tony Dungee,

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Speaker 4: remember the the Indianapolis Colts head coach. He was with

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Speaker 4: Tampa first, but in Indianapolis. I remember him saying, guys,

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Speaker 4: we're not fighting in training camp.

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Speaker 3: It's stupid. We're not gonna fight in the games.

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Speaker 4: We're just gonna get penalties and you know, fifteen yards

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Speaker 4: marked off against us. It's stupid, serves no purpose. We're

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Speaker 4: not doing it. I was totally fine with that. I

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Speaker 4: like that approach. But then we have Dion Sanders. This week,

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Speaker 4: Coach Prime at Colorado with a completely different message.

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Speaker 3: It's in practice.

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Speaker 4: There's a goal line situation, a little pushing, little shoving,

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Speaker 4: little skirmish breaks out. Not everybody gets involved. Coach Prime

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Speaker 4: has an issue with this. Check out this audio courtesy

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Speaker 4: of Coach Prime's IG.

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Speaker 3: I see two of y'all walk it off over there,

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Speaker 3: and you gotta teammate.

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Speaker 1: Fight nowhere.

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Speaker 5: Fight, we all fight. You understand that. I don't want

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Speaker 5: to see y'all walk it off.

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Speaker 3: Put somebody's fight. I love that too. Could not be

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Speaker 3: more different.

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Speaker 4: But you talk about establishing a new culture, a new

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Speaker 4: mindset at Coach Prime's new program in Colorado. I'm totally

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Speaker 4: fine with that. It doesn't mean they're gonna fight in

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Speaker 4: games and get penalties galore, but that mindset of one fights,

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Speaker 4: we all fight. I'm totally behind it, even though it's

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Speaker 4: the exact opposite of an approach I liked with Tony Dungeeyeh,

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Speaker 4: Are you okay with me being wildly consistent like this?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm fine with it because we all are. It's

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Speaker 6: part of being humans. It's part of being a human being.

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Speaker 6: And I've had coaches who have been against it, and

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Speaker 6: I've had coaches who have been for it, and I've

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Speaker 6: liked both of their styles as long as as it

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Speaker 6: was authentic. Tony Dungee is a calm man in a

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Speaker 6: chaotic game, so that thought process matches his process perfectly.

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Speaker 5: It's authentic.

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Speaker 6: He's coaching to his personality. You know who I hate

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Speaker 6: fake tough guys. Deon Sanders is a real tough guy.

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Speaker 6: Deon Sanders is a bad man. Deon Sanders should coach

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Speaker 6: like an angry dog, snarling teeth showing foam dripping from

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Speaker 6: his chin, because that's who he is. That's what his

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Speaker 6: game was all about. He was angry. He was a

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Speaker 6: trash to Tony Dungee wasn't. If it weren't for football,

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Speaker 6: we'd think he's a pacifist. But the man's a general.

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Speaker 6: He's a surance salesman.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: You know, I love the fact that both those examples

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Speaker 6: are so polar opposite of each other and have been

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Speaker 6: successful at either the college or the NFL level. Because

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Speaker 6: there's a lot of different ways to peel this orange.

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Speaker 6: You don't have to do it the same way. You

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Speaker 6: don't have to be the same type of coach in

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Speaker 6: every situation, and you, Brian and I and Jared and

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Speaker 6: any other player or any other fan of the game

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Speaker 6: can respect two completely opposite coaching styles and still understand

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Speaker 7: There absolutely a couple of things. First of all, I

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Speaker 3: But those first five.

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Speaker 7: Games, who at TCU, the defending team that was in

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Speaker 3: I know they lost a lot. Then they played Nebraska.

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Speaker 7: That's a big rivalry last I checked, and I know

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Speaker 7: it's not a conference rival anymore.

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Speaker 3: It might be again soon. Who knows.

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Speaker 7: Colorado State, Yeah, that's a pretty big rivalry too in state.

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Speaker 7: Then you go to Oregon and you play USC. Wow,

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Speaker 7: I mean you are staring zero to five right down

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Speaker 4: Huh do you have any award winning advice when it

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Speaker 4: comes to parlays. Yes, we can add some seasoning, but

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Speaker 7: I'm just kidding, guys. I think parlays are very useful.

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Speaker 7: I think they are the junk food cheat day of

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Speaker 3: I have them and they're amazing.

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Speaker 7: So I was just looking through my record last year

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Speaker 7: this is why we only do them in moderation people.

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Speaker 7: I went one in fourteen. I won one parlay last

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Speaker 7: year in the fifteen weeks.

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Speaker 4: That's because your minimum odds were like plus correct thirty

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Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, most of the bets are twenty thirty

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Speaker 7: actually a basically flat even odds bet, which was conference

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Speaker 7: Championship weekend. And I think the basic rules are this

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Speaker 7: It's gonna be fun. We're gonna have a blast with it.

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Speaker 7: They're gonna be long shot odds. They're gonna be underdog picks.

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Speaker 7: We're gonna try to, you know, win one. The goal

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Speaker 7: is to win one big one the whole season. That's

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Speaker 7: really my goal. Every week you make parlays, you combine

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Speaker 7: bets together, but before you press submit on the bet,

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Speaker 7: make sure you look at each leg and say, what

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Speaker 7: I make this bet individually? Is this a good wager

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Speaker 7: to make outside of the structure of the parlay. If

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Speaker 3: You are doing it wrong.

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Speaker 7: Usually I strategize for every week three to four legs

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Speaker 7: every season, you want to take advantage of those opportunities.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 6: The only thing I'll sprinkle in, because I've played some parlays,

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Speaker 6: is be ambitious, you know, don't be tight with these

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Speaker 6: because they're for fun and also from a timeframe standpoint.

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Speaker 6: Understand yourself. If you're somebody who can wait overnight over

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Speaker 6: two nights, yes, with a with a big win on

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Speaker 6: a big parlay, yeah, go for it.

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Speaker 5: Like but if you're gonna lose sleep over it, don't

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Speaker 5: do that. Don't do that.

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Speaker 6: Make sure it's the same day parlay like an NFL Sunday.

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Speaker 6: Don't wait for the Monday to hit if it's gonna

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Speaker 6: I'll give you.

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Speaker 4: I think parlays are like drinking. I would advise, don't

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Speaker 4: terms of your bank roll, how much you're betting, and

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Speaker 4: how many legs you have, like how wild the odds are.

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Speaker 3: That's what I would say.

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Speaker 9: Divisions in Major League Baseball. Friday night at the Tampa

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Speaker 3: You know, you've been watching the NFL for a long time.

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Speaker 4: Have you ever made a finish first and second into division?

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Speaker 6: I love that idea, I really do, because again, like

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873
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Speaker 6: Side of it is if you do, like I said,

874
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 6: have some insight. You've been following one team for a

875
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 6: long time, or a couple of teams in a division

876
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 6: for a long time. Like if you're an AFC West watcher,

877
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 6: you know, because you're a Chiefs fan, you know you

878
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 6: happen to have a little insight on the Denver Broncos

879
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 6: because you're a real Sickoh and you just love to

880
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 6: scout the opponents too. Like all of a sudden, you

881
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 6: start thinking, like, geez, you know, there's some good reports

882
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 6: coming out of Denver camp.

883
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 5: I'm making it up. We know that's not true.

884
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 6: But the point is, no, The point is I think

885
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 6: I think there's you could find a lot of value

886
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 6: in a season long Future's Division bet like that.

887
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think there's no market that I am unwilling

888
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 7: to invest slash research. I think the biggest thing that

889
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 7: a lot of Really, and again I will reiterate this

890
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 7: for all the people listening. I'm not a professional gambler.

891
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 7: I know, I'm a betting analyst and I do analyze

892
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 7: this on a daily basis, but my income is not

893
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 7: derived from betting, and I'm always transparent about that. There's

894
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 7: you know, Crack and Jeff Schwartz. I don't know about Jeff,

895
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 7: but I know Crack derives his income from betting very different.

896
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 7: He's coming at it from a very different angle. He

897
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 7: will probably tell you tomorrow if you ask the same

898
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 7: question to him Brian, that no, that's not what he

899
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 7: likes to play. Because people who derive their income from betting,

900
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 7: they bet very specifically on certain markets and they eliminate

901
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 7: everything else because there is zero entertainment value in what

902
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 7: they are trying to accomplish. I am not that I

903
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 7: like the entertainment value of betting. It is a big

904
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 7: part of why I got into gambling twenty years ago

905
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 7: in the first place, in high school, when I was

906
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 7: betting on these games. But I think the bigger picture

907
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 7: is if you are willing to sit and wait, Yes,

908
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 7: these markets can be incredibly fun, and I don't know

909
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 7: how much quote unquote value there is because you can

910
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 7: probably make a better wager by just looking at those

911
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 7: individual teams and then swimming in markets that are a

912
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 7: little more I'll call it easier to win long term

913
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 7: in I won't use a term that probably will confuse

914
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 7: a lot of people, but I think the first, second,

915
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 7: third fourth markets. Those are really hard markets to make

916
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 7: good wagers in. But fun wagers, Oh, unlimited amount of

917
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 7: fun in that market, and I probably will make one

918
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 7: or two, but very small and again something that you

919
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 7: have to be willing to sit watch and mature like

920
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 7: you're Toamagatchi when you were a kid, because that thing's

921
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,240
Speaker 7: gonna take a long time before you know bears any fruit.

922
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 6: I think you said something really important there, and I

923
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 6: did have a I was a proud Tomagachio so as

924
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 6: a youth, I and I am every single time mine

925
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 6: died before like day three.

926
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 7: Which would probably make sense with these wagers as well.

927
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 3: They might die before week three.

928
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 6: Actually, yeah, you're one hundred percent right, because we know

929
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 6: what the percentages look like like. If the team gets

930
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 6: out to a zero and two start, even with the

931
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 6: seventeen game season, the lights get awfully dim really fast.

932
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 6: But yeah, just really quick. Because Brian, I'm curious your

933
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 6: thoughts if this is something you're interested in too. I

934
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 6: to what you said resonated with me because I look

935
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 6: at gambling very different than a crack would look at

936
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 6: gambling like he's staking his next meal.

937
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,760
Speaker 3: Correct, he's literally staking.

938
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 6: Stakes on on his gambling, you know what I mean,

939
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 6: which I think is a noble profession. It's something that

940
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 6: is now becoming more and more acceptable state by state

941
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 6: as this is being legalized and the stigma's off. You know,

942
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 6: I look at gambling from an entertainment value standpoint, and

943
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 6: that's truly the value that I was honing in on,

944
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 6: Like you could keep a bet like that alive for

945
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 6: a good long stretch of this season, and that's that

946
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 6: feels good, Like when you're involved in something that that

947
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 6: keeps on stirring, It keeps the interest growing, it it

948
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 6: gives you something other than just hey, what's the upcoming

949
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 6: schedule looking like it's like, oh no, on the back burner,

950
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 6: I've got this cool thing going and it looks like

951
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 6: it's gonna hit.

952
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 5: Like that's a.

953
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 6: Fun feeling, that sort of royals in the background all

954
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 6: season long. But yeah, from a gambling value standpoint, from

955
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 6: a hey, is this the best usage of your money

956
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 6: long term to Land of futures? Maybe not, probably not,

957
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 6: But from an entertainment value standpoint, I could definitely see

958
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 6: the value there.

959
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 3: Hey, I think you can do both.

960
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 4: I think there are certain times where take the AFC

961
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 4: South for instance, do you see the Colts finishing in

962
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 4: first or second place, No I don't. Do you see

963
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 4: the Texans finishing in first or second place?

964
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 3: No I don't. So there you go.

965
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 4: If you're thinking about first and second, if you say,

966
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 4: all right, give me the Jags and Titans just like

967
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 4: last season, you can get that at plus two twenty

968
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 4: you a little bit better than two to one odds.

969
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:42,240
Speaker 3: That's not awful.

970
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 4: Or if you want to flip flop it, you get

971
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 4: even longer odds and a bigger payout if you want

972
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 4: to go Titans Jags if you're so inclined and feeling

973
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 4: a little saucy there. So I think it really does

974
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 4: depend on the division. I wouldn't go willy nilly going

975
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 4: first and second in every division because there are some

976
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 4: where it's a bigger crap shoot. But I think you

977
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 4: can do both. I think that if you're more on

978
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 4: the entertainment side, you could certainly look to that. And

979
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 4: I think also if you're on the professional side, look,

980
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 4: these futures bets a lot of them. They're high risk.

981
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 3: If you just look at college conferences.

982
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 4: I mean, you look at Michigan and Ohio State on BETMGM,

983
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 4: they're at plus one point eighty a piece to win

984
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 4: the Big Ten. Penn State's at plus five point fifty,

985
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 4: followed by Wisconsin at plus six hundred. So it's plus

986
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 4: six hundred is a fancy way of saying six to one,

987
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 4: if that makes more sense to you. But there's a

988
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 4: lot of risk with that, even with a college football conference.

989
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 4: Who's gonna end up winning that thing? You know how

990
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 4: it goes. Think about Blake Korum last season with Michigan

991
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 4: getting banged up, the Heisman candidate running back. You could

992
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 4: have anything go haywire. So it's just interesting to me

993
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 4: what becomes more comfortable for you to bet, you know,

994
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 4: and the professionals are just like that. Also, they're more

995
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 4: comfortable betting on, hey, who's gonna win this college football

996
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 4: conference as opposed to who's gonna finish in first and

997
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 4: second place in the AFC South. And that's fine, Tomato, tomato.

998
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:16,720
Speaker 4: But I'm just saying that it's not automatically a Joe play,

999
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, it's pros versus Joe's that

1000
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 4: it's not automatically a Joe's play. If the bros are

1001
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,760
Speaker 4: like and just not necessarily my cup of tea.

1002
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 6: Right there, I love the way you laid it out,

1003
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 6: Like if you are and I mean, there's gonna be

1004
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 6: a lot of different opinions about, for example, the NFC

1005
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 6: North this year. But if you are totally down on

1006
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 6: the Packers and the Bears, and you think that the

1007
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 6: success Minnesota is replicable, and you have some belief in

1008
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 6: the Detroit Lions based on how they finished the season

1009
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 6: last year and the and the upward trajectory that Dan

1010
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 6: Campbell has that culture on, you know, there could be

1011
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,720
Speaker 6: a little first second there too. I Yeah, the more

1012
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 6: I wrap my head around it, the more I feel

1013
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 6: like there is probably some value to be squeezed out

1014
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 6: of it. Again, not as familiar with Jared the everyday

1015
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 6: gambler the career gambler as you are, but I could

1016
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 6: see this getting brought into a rotation if there's enough,

1017
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 6: if there's enough value to squeeze out of a bet

1018
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 6: like that. But but yeah, I mean to go back

1019
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 6: to what you were just saying about, you know, even

1020
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 6: conference championship odds. I am like when we talk Heisman futures,

1021
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 6: when we talk you know, championship futures. I definitely like

1022
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 6: to pick longer, longer odds futures like I like.

1023
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 5: The plus six hundred or the plus seven fifties because

1024
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,479
Speaker 5: I don't know, it just helps me sleep a little

1025
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 5: bit better.

1026
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 6: I'm like, well, I'm actually taking a little bit of

1027
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 6: risk here as opposed to going with chalk, and that's

1028
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 6: not fun, you know, I don't know. Sometimes it's fun

1029
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 6: to take chalk when it wins. But you know a

1030
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 6: lot of times when you have the goofy bracket in

1031
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 6: the march, that that makes it to the Sweet sixteen

1032
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 6: and you're like, well, yeah, a lot of people doubt

1033
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 6: and it doubted me here that the Golden Retrievers would

1034
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 6: make a Sweet sixteen bid.

1035
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 5: Yeah here I am, who's laughing now?

1036
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 7: Or the Peacocks you're right, yeah, Peters or Fairleigh Dickinson

1037
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 7: or any one of those teams. So there's a lot

1038
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 7: of bets that are made by pros without even the

1039
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 7: goal of winning it. And I think that's that's hard

1040
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 7: for a novice gambler to understand because their bankrolls are

1041
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 7: very limited. You might have one hundred dollars in your

1042
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 7: BETMGM account and you might need to last that one

1043
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 7: hundred dollars, might have to last the whole season, so

1044
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 7: it's different when you're dealing with, you know, someone of

1045
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 7: Crack's status that has hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of

1046
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 7: bullets to fire into markets every single day. And I'll

1047
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 7: give you a perfect example of this one that we

1048
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 7: just saw in the NFL draft, when the reports came

1049
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 7: out about Anthony Richardson's and then Brian it's the hot

1050
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 7: button topic of the day, Anthony richard when the reports

1051
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 7: came out about how great he looked at the combine

1052
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 7: and all this the number one pick, and all the

1053
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 7: rumors and the smoke screens. Professional gamblers, people infinitely smarter

1054
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 7: at this than me, were hammering his prop to be

1055
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 7: drafted first overall. Why because it was one hundred to one,

1056
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 7: and then it was fifty to one, and then it

1057
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 7: was forty to one, and it kept getting bed and

1058
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 7: bed and bet and if you ask a lot of

1059
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,240
Speaker 7: professional gambles, and I did, because I remember I tweeted

1060
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 7: it out. Do you guys even watch the games? Anthony

1061
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 7: Richmond to be drafted first overall?

1062
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 3: Like come on?

1063
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 7: The responses I got a couple of them from professionals

1064
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 7: were like, well, yeah, the number was wrong. It was

1065
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,720
Speaker 7: never about winning the bet it was about the number

1066
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 7: being wrong, meaning it's going to move. If you got

1067
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 7: one hundred to one on Anthony Richmond to be drafted first. Overall,

1068
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 7: it probably closed I think around five or six to one.

1069
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 7: That is a huge move in a market in a

1070
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 7: short period of time. Now, the bet didn't win, it

1071
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 7: never had any chance of winning. But what it did

1072
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 7: is it set up an opportunity for you to come

1073
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 7: off it and bet something else.

1074
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 3: And I think that is where it can.

1075
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 7: Be difficult for a novice gambler that just wants to

1076
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 7: place a bet on a Saturday to have their team

1077
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 7: win the game to kind of grasp that concept. But

1078
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 7: a lot of gambling is done without any goal of winning,

1079
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 7: just to move the market and to be on the

1080
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 7: right side of the market move and then to come

1081
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 7: back on the other side, and then to make a

1082
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 7: guaranteed profit on whatever bet you originally had. So it's convoluted,

1083
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 7: it's complicated. We will not get that deep in the

1084
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 7: show throughout the season, but there will be moments when

1085
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 7: you guys make your futures bets in August and then

1086
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 7: all of a sudden, we call them back in November.

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00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 3: And wow, that market moved a lot.

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00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 7: Maybe I can bet the other side and make a

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00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 7: little guaranteed profit because it's no risk.

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Speaker 3: I hear you.

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00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 4: It's funny because I think about this. You can do

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00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 4: the exact outcome of the Super Bowl matchup. Oh man,

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00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 4: So the odds of the Arizona of Cardinals to beat

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00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 4: the Houston Texans, it's plus one million, bet, guys, don't

1095
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 4: don't make that bet. Don't throw an don't make that bet.

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00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 4: It's also for the Arizona Cardinals to beat the Indianapolis Colts.

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00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 3: Don't make that also plus a million.

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00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 5: Don't do it.

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Speaker 7: Don't do that, I think, and honestly, I think the

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Speaker 7: Super Bowl markets are really hard, the exactas like who

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00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 7: to beat who?

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00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 3: You don't even know what?

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00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 7: Like those markets are so the hold percentage is so high,

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00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:38,399
Speaker 7: meaning what the sports book?

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00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 5: This? This may get too far.

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00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 6: I've got to ask this question though, and if it

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00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 6: is like too heady, maybe we'll skip it. But is

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00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 6: it could it be like a self perpetuating like a

1109
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 6: self fulfilling prophecy what you said about futures markets and

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00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 6: professional gamblers, Like the number was wrong, so I bet it,

1111
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 6: like I mean, yeah, you and all your so you're

1112
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 6: the reason why the number is changing.

1113
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 5: So it's like, okay, good, we.

1114
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 3: Made it fifty to one.

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00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, now this makes sense. Good.

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00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 6: It's like you're spending money so that the number looks right.

1117
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 6: Like it's like blowing my mind, like I, oh, God

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Speaker 6: of profit off. Here's the adjectives.

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00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 7: Nine is the adjective I would use because at the

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00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 7: end of the day, it's a losing wager. Anthony Richard

1121
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 7: going first overall was a losing, losing wager. But professionals

1122
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 7: that had one hundred to one and they see a

1123
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 7: market close at five to one, they feel like they

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00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 7: made a good bet even though it lost.

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Speaker 5: Right right, right, I get it.

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Speaker 3: It's a different mentality, man, it is.

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00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 7: And it's very different from what we do on this show. Again,

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Speaker 7: I'm not professional gambler. I don't make bets like that.

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Speaker 7: I'm trying to win every bet I made because my

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00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,800
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Speaker 7: it's not. So you just have to be selective. I

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Speaker 7: think moderation. You know, Brian mentioned it, drinking moderation. It's

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Speaker 7: all the same.

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Speaker 3: Yeah on the show this morning. We'll be back at

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Speaker 3: you tomorrow. It'll be me, uh, Jeffy tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: But right now it's rich.

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Speaker 4: It's a beautiful thing right there. It's crazy how fast

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Speaker 4: things change in the NFL. Look no further than the

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Speaker 4: San Francisco forty nine Ers this week. I still can't

1164
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 4: believe this quote Kyle Shanahan, forty nine Ers head coach.

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00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 4: He said Brock Purty would have to melt in practice

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Speaker 4: to lose the forty.

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Speaker 3: Nine ers job.

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Speaker 4: You'd have to melt in practice, like Reeen comes down.

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00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 4: I guess, yeah, I don't know's he just melts away

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00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 4: over there, kind of like Frosty Snowman or something.

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Speaker 3: Like Wicked Witch of the West over the Yeah. But

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Speaker 3: think about this, Fran.

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Speaker 4: We are two years removed from Trey Lance being the

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Speaker 4: number three overall pick getting traded up for And I

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Speaker 4: just looked at that too, Jared is if you look

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01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 4: at it, it was basically the forty nine Ers trading

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Speaker 4: with the Dolphins. The Niners traded three first round picks

1178
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 4: and a third round pick, or if it screws you up,

1179
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 4: like there's one pick swap in the first round, then

1180
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 4: two first rounders and a third. But what's interesting is

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01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 4: one of those picks, you know, these picks they trade

1182
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 4: hands and trade teams and all this stuff. One of

1183
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 4: those picks, with the twelfth overall pick, that was Micah

1184
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Speaker 4: Parsons of the Dallas.

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Speaker 3: He's involved in that trade.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yeah, so the Niners one of those picks

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Speaker 4: that they trade, by the.

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Speaker 6: Way, and don't sleep on Cole strange to the Patriots.

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Speaker 5: That was another one of them.

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Speaker 3: It's another one of them.

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Speaker 4: Yes, And uh, if we're keeping track, Brian Brazi went

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01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 4: to the Saints right the Clemson defensive lineman right there,

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Speaker 4: and why are we still waiting on the third round pick?

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01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 4: We might be waiting on that one, but oh no, no,

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Speaker 4: we got it. It's a Channing Tyndall. Yeah, we got

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Speaker 4: a linebacker in there.

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Speaker 7: Well, Micah Parsons a dead stop. I mean, if he

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Speaker 7: exact draft, he might be the number one pick in

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Speaker 7: that draft.

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Speaker 4: He is an unbelievable defensive player, arguably the best yeah

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Speaker 4: in the game. Right now, like Nick Moosa, Miles Garrett,

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Speaker 4: the few ones up there.

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Speaker 3: Sure he's right up there.

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Speaker 4: And the Niners traded that was one of the picks

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01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 4: that they gave up to get Trey Lance. And now

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Speaker 4: two years later, the only way he's QB one is

1207
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 4: if mister irrelevant Brock Purdy, the last pick of the draft,

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01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 4: melts in practice right after having elbow surgery when he

1209
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 4: got knocked out of the NFC title game. That's how

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01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 4: fast things can change in the NFL.

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Speaker 6: Gosh, I gotta tell you that draft alone, the tray last,

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Speaker 6: the Trey Lance Draft is a fireable offense for almost

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Speaker 6: every single head coach in general manager pairing in the NFL.

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Speaker 6: The San Francisco forty nine ers have done such a

1215
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Speaker 6: great job of building that team and building that culture.

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Speaker 6: And I'm talking specifically about Shanahan and Lynch that they

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Speaker 6: save their jobs because when you move that much capital

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Speaker 6: to get a player who has been this unproductive, you're gone.

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Speaker 6: I mean, look at Kyler Murray, he's a pro bowler.

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Speaker 6: He got the general manager and a head coach fired.

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Speaker 6: That's that's how this business normally works. I mean, Trey Lance,

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Speaker 6: he has played a handful of snaps at the NFL level,

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Speaker 6: he's been made of glass and he's been unproductive. Okay,

1224
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Speaker 6: Now that doesn't mean sometime in the future he can't

1225
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 6: all of a sudden Geno smith Us and be like, whoops, yeah.

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Speaker 8: You all rode it and I didn't read it, you know.

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Speaker 6: But but outside of that happening, I mean, this is

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Speaker 6: this is as bad of a draft selection as we've

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Speaker 6: ever seen, as we've ever seen. So look, I mean,

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Speaker 6: I don't I want to go back to what I

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01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 6: said originally, if it weren't for the most important thing,

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Speaker 6: which is the NFC championship game appearances and the fact

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Speaker 6: that this team has dominated that division and it's been

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Speaker 6: a crowded division at times. You have the Rams who

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Speaker 6: have been burgeoning and winning a super Bowl in this

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Speaker 6: in this in this time like it's it's it's a

1237
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Speaker 6: competitive division and they've still been on top for the

1238
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Speaker 6: most part. But if it weren't for that, Shanahan and Lynch,

1239
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 6: they they would have lost their jobs because this will

1240
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Speaker 6: go down if it continues on the path it's currently

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Speaker 6: on as as maybe the worst draft selection we've ever seen.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and I think the thing that's even more remarkable

1243
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 7: is all of these issues with the Niners, right and

1244
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 7: they're still significant favorites to win their division.

1245
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 3: And they are starting a quarterback this year.

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Speaker 7: We think it's you know, we're assuming it's gonna be

1247
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Speaker 7: Brock based off of that report that Brian just read.

1248
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Speaker 7: But heading into the year, we didn't know. We didn't

1249
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 7: know if Brock was gonna be healthy coming off the

1250
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 7: elbow injury. We didn't know if Trey Lance was going

1251
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Speaker 7: to reach out and grab that job. Well, I think

1252
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Speaker 7: both of those questions have been answered, and I think it.

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Speaker 3: Is fair now.

1254
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 7: I was very skeptical of the Niners price to win

1255
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 7: the division heading into the questions that we just asked

1256
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Speaker 7: minus won sixty five. Right now, bet MGM is basically

1257
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 7: saying there are a sixty percent chance to win the division.

1258
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 7: And there hasn't been one snap in the NFL yet

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Speaker 7: this season, and they are already a significant favorite in a

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Speaker 7: crowded division. A RAMS team that I think will be

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Speaker 7: better this year, but probably still rebuilding and reloading from

1262
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 7: the Super Bowl team, the Seahawks, who were in the

1263
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 7: playoffs last year and gave the Niners a run in

1264
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 7: that playoff game, but eventually succumbed to what was a

1265
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 7: much deeper and better defense and overall talent, more talented

1266
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 7: Niners team. And I think that is the reason why

1267
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 7: those people still have jobs that we just mentioned, because

1268
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 7: that's how good the Niners are. Immune from even drafting

1269
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 7: your franchise quarterback in the top five and still continuing

1270
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 7: to have team success the following year, a breath away

1271
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 7: from the super Bowl and still favored to win the

1272
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 7: division this year, despite that pick being so much of

1273
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 7: a boss that we have to puzzle and question our

1274
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Speaker 7: sanity for why it.

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Speaker 5: Was made well.

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Speaker 4: And that's the thing I think of it from this angle,

1277
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Speaker 4: which is if you think of possible what if scenarios

1278
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 4: coming true. We're not saying, hey, what if the Houston

1279
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 4: Texans win a Super Bowl this year?

1280
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Speaker 3: It's got to be within the.

1281
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 4: Realm of reasonable, Okay, But think about this, Think about

1282
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 4: the ripple effect of what if Brock Purdy is fool's gold,

1283
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 4: if he isn't truly a franchise quarterback, what that would

1284
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 4: mean for the Niners in the NFC. Taking a step further,

1285
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 4: think about these young quarterbacks in the NFC. Who's good,

1286
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 4: Who's gonna pan out? And who won't think about what

1287
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 4: if Desmond Ritter of the Falcons, what if he's good?

1288
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 4: What if Jordan Love of the Packers is good? You

1289
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 4: look at who else? Bryce young rookie with Carolina, Sam

1290
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 4: Howell with Washington. You know, first year starter Justin Fields

1291
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 4: with the Bears. This is year three?

1292
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 3: Is he good year for Justin?

1293
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 4: It's a big year for him. This seems to be

1294
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 4: like a fork in the road type year. So he

1295
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 4: hasn't had weapons to this point for the most part.

1296
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 4: Twenty four touchdowns, twenty one picks. How much does Dj

1297
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 4: Moore help that? Can he be a true franchise quarterback?

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Speaker 4: But you think about all those guys in the NFC

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01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 4: and depending on who pans out, who doesn't. I'll tell

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01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 4: you this much. If Rock Berdy has been as productive

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01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 4: or meaning not as productive with with Trey Lance, the

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01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 4: Niners in a world have hurt. Yeah, So who pans out?

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01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 5: Who does it?

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01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 3: It's gonna be huge in the NFC because it is.

1305
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 3: It's wide open. It is there for the taking for

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01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:17,439
Speaker 3: many teams right now.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, it's it's one thing to successfully cook the

1308
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 6: hamburgers for the for the cookout, right It's another thing

1309
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 6: to start a forest fire in order to do it right,

1310
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 6: I think it's better to use the barbecue.

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Speaker 3: It's fantastic reference.

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01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 6: I mean because that like, yes, the ends do justify

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01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 6: the means, but the means are important too. So if

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Speaker 6: the forty nine ers do end up winning a Super

1315
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 6: Bowl and they also made one of the biggest draft

1316
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 6: blunders along the way, that does still count for something.

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01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 6: It's it's still an embarrassment where you could have been

1318
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 6: rich off of picks like we just laid out.

1319
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 5: So, I mean, you gotta be very careful how you

1320
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 5: spend that draft capital.

1321
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 6: And maybe that was the biggest lesson that John Lynch

1322
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 6: as a general manager has ever learned. That you don't

1323
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 6: go all in on a kid, you know, who has

1324
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:17,440
Speaker 6: barely played at the college level, has barely played football

1325
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 6: over the course of his life. If you really look

1326
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 6: at the grand scheme of things and you say, yeah, no,

1327
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,879
Speaker 6: we're all in like that that because you just mentioned

1328
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 6: all of the young quarterbacks in the NFC. Basically, I

1329
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 6: bet you if you got John Lynch and you got

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01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 6: and you got Kyle Shanahan on the sodium Penthethal right

1331
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:41,759
Speaker 6: on the truth serum, and you told them right now today.

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01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:45,679
Speaker 6: If I could trade, I mean straight up trade Rock

1333
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 6: Party for any of those young quarterbacks you just mentioned,

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01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 6: they would do it in a heartbeat, even though he's

1335
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 6: pretty the San Franz snowman. And unless he melts, he

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01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 6: gets the starting gig. Bryce Young yes, Howell yes, uh,

1337
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 6: Jordan Love, Yes, Justin Fields, Yes.

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01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 5: Give me those guys.

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01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:10,600
Speaker 3: But Party, Sorry, see you lady, you melted, you know

1340
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 3: what I mean. It's crazy. But they've got Trey Lanson.

1341
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 4: They're saying no to him right well yeah, but yeah,

1342
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 4: but yeah.

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01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 3: You know, this reminds me of so when I was

1344
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 3: a kid.

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01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,679
Speaker 7: I would always my mom would want to come, Hey,

1346
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 7: do you want to go play a game or something,

1347
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 7: and yeah, sure, Mom, let's go.

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01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 3: Let's play legos, let's go play a game. And then my.

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01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 7: Friends would come to the door, Hey, you want to

1350
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,639
Speaker 7: go outside and shoot some hoops or play hockey or whatever. Yep,

1351
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 7: my mom, see you later. Like that to me, that's

1352
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:39,679
Speaker 7: like that's brock Purdy like it. At some point, Sorry,

1353
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 7: there is going sorry mom, color play hockey outside whatever

1354
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 7: we just set up.

1355
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to do that anymore.

1356
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 7: Like there's going to be some point where the Niners

1357
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 7: pull the rug and move on to their franchise quarterback

1358
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 7: in the future. But then there's this little bug inside

1359
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 7: the back of my head that keeps saying, what if

1360
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 7: he's Dom Brady, like the seventh round pig that just

1361
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 7: become this great? Now, the odds of that happening are

1362
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 7: probably as good as the odds of that Texans over

1363
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 7: coult Super Bowl or whatever you know, crazy concoction Brian

1364
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 7: was trying to cook up during those odds segment there.

1365
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 7: But I think there's a small silly chance that he

1366
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 7: is the franchise guy. But I would not be shocked

1367
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 7: if at some point in the very near future, the

1368
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 7: Niners decide to ditch mister irrelevant for the new shiny

1369
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 7: toy that comes along. But here's here's the lens I'm

1370
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 7: trying to look. Just look through this at and maybe

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01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 7: you guys can help me compare it. If we had

1372
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 7: to compare what the Panthers just gave up to go

1373
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:42,679
Speaker 7: up and get Bryce Young compared to what the Niners

1374
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 7: had to give up to go up and get Trey Lance,

1375
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:48,719
Speaker 7: we feel so differently about those two trades, right because

1376
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 7: Bryce Young played at Alabama has a lot of resume

1377
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 7: tape compared to Trey Lance didn't right, Like, those two

1378
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 7: trades I think are comparable. I know number three, number

1379
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 7: one not quite the same. But recently we haven't seen

1380
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 7: a lot of big moves up for quarterback. We saw

1381
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 7: it this year, and we saw it with Trey Lance.

1382
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,639
Speaker 7: It's such a different Like the optics of those two

1383
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 7: trades are so different. Everyone who has a brain would

1384
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 7: say odd. Rather it's young and that here's the thing.

1385
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, the trade package that we gave up to get

1386
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 4: Isaac Low and Kron handsomely paid off.

1387
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 3: We don't even regret it. I lo with the latest.

1388
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 3: Let's do it well.

1389
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 9: Following up on your discussion, let's take you live to

1390
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 9: brock Purty at San Francisco forty nine ers practice this morning.

1391
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 10: That is truly dramatic audio.

1392
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 3: Hold on, his voice got a little more high pitching A.

1393
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 9: Yes, sorry, I'm being told that was actually audio from

1394
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 9: the Wicked Witch of the NFC West.

1395
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 7: Wow.

1396
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 9: No, No, I'm sorry the Wicked Witch of the West. Okay, sorry,

1397
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 9: got a little crossed up there, fellas. Let's begin with

1398
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 9: NFL preseason action on Friday night. Nobody melting anywhere, fortunately,

1399
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 9: but the Cincinnati Bengals and Atlanta Falcons playing to a

1400
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 9: thirteen to thirteen tie thanks to Young Way KU's forty

1401
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 9: five yard field goal with two seconds left to play.

1402
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 9: For the Falcons, their quarterback Desmond Rudder completed seven of

1403
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 9: nine for eighty yards was intercepted, but it was on

1404
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 9: a deflected pass. The New York Giants over the Carolina

1405
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 9: Panthers twenty one to nineteen. Panthers rookie quarterback Bryce Young

1406
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 9: completed three of six for thirty five yards. Daniel Jones

1407
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 9: of the Giants completed eight of nine for sixty nine

1408
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 9: yards and a touchdown. In Major League Baseball on Friday night,

1409
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 9: the Tampa Bay Rays defeated the Los Angeles Angels and

1410
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 9: Anaheim and ten innings, nine to six, despite the Angels

1411
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 9: turning their first triple play in twenty six years, and

1412
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 9: despite show Hey Otani hitting a Grand Slam home run

1413
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 9: for his forty third home run of the season, typical

1414
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,560
Speaker 9: expected anyway. The Miami Marlins hit five home runs and

1415
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 9: on eleven three victory over the Dodgers in LA, breaking

1416
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,799
Speaker 9: the Dodgers eleven game winning streak, and the San Diego

1417
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 9: Padres shut out the Arizona Diamondbacks four to nothing. Padres

1418
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 9: scored four in the eighth, including a two run home

1419
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,879
Speaker 9: run by Fernando Tatis Junior, his twentieth of the season.

1420
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 4: Back to you, guys, I lo, I just want to

1421
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 4: you know, standing ovation to the Angels, straight job going

1422
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 4: down in flames. You know they're not going to get

1423
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 4: anything for the most unique player in baseball history when

1424
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 4: he walks and you have zero.

1425
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:30,600
Speaker 3: Hey, last night Grand Slam.

1426
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:33,640
Speaker 4: Turned a triple play in the ninth inning and then

1427
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,919
Speaker 4: the Angels still lose by three runs in extra innings?

1428
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 10: Will they think of next?

1429
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: What will they think of next?

1430
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 3: Angels?

1431
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,679
Speaker 6: I mean, it really is they. I mean that should

1432
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 6: be a verb. They angeled it like it is. It's

1433
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 6: so consistently shoe hey, o'dani makes history in an Angel's loss.

1434
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 5: Back to you to.

1435
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 3: Ridiculous. Did you see the highlight of the triple play? Oh?

1436
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,440
Speaker 3: I was the most unique triple.

1437
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 7: Play I've ever seen because it was like a regular

1438
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 7: double play and then it was like the end of

1439
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:09,679
Speaker 7: a like a It was so bizarre. It was almost

1440
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 7: like two different plays in one and it kind of

1441
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:13,719
Speaker 7: got congealed into a triple play.

1442
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:15,680
Speaker 3: It was horrible base running.

1443
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 5: Third base. Yeah.

1444
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 7: The guy, the guy who caught the ball at first

1445
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 7: after the double play like looked, was like, are you

1446
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 7: really running home?

1447
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 3: Right?

1448
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1449
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 4: Runners at the corners throw it there, yeah, runners at

1450
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 4: the corners, groundball to short The shortstop looked the base

1451
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 4: runner on third back and then flipped it to the

1452
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:38,639
Speaker 4: second base and second baseman turns to and then you're right, Jared.

1453
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 4: The first baseman's like, oh gosh, this.

1454
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 3: Guy's running right now.

1455
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 5: This is a very short distance to throw this bace.

1456
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 4: I love it too, because the uh the Angels Kevin

1457
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:54,759
Speaker 4: Cash was like, hold on, challenge the tag at home

1458
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 4: and then challenge if the first basement was still on

1459
01:14:57,720 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 4: first base.

1460
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 7: And then the guy in the uh you know, the

1461
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:02,480
Speaker 7: hot dog guy in the stands.

1462
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 3: You know, both were confirmed. That was hilarious.

1463
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 4: All right, coming up next situations. Okay, Jared's gonna debunk

1464
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 4: a couple of myths, and I'm just trying to figure out,

1465
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 4: like how much do I want to win off of

1466
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:20,760
Speaker 4: these guys who are drunk on Anthony richardson ring, Like

1467
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 4: if I if I win a hundred bucks, is that okay?

1468
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 4: If I win north of five hundred, am I a jerk,

1469
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 4: you know, I'm having these questions.

1470
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 7: Just bet you said you're gonna make a bet with us.

1471
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 7: You haven't proposed it.

1472
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 3: Yet, Yeah, just proposing. Next, we're waiting. Rich and I

1473
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 3: are here with baited breath.

1474
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 6: We we got Richer Richardson, Yeah, rich Ornberger, Penn State

1475
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 6: All American drinking the a rich.

1476
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 3: Cool day Richardson Ornberger over here.

1477
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 4: We've got Jared Smith FSR betting analysts drink Gatorade bath.

1478
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 3: You see on the.

1479
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 4: Soccer ball coaches, they're like, just throw that on me.

1480
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 4: Throw that Anthony Richardson kool Aid. By way, that's that's

1481
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 4: Jared Smith. I'm Brian though. I mean, I see floss.

1482
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:02,799
Speaker 4: That's all I'm saying, come too. Yeah, Ok, there's beauty

1483
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 4: in in.

1484
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 5: I see zero flaws. Hall of Famer. Just like Michael

1485
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 5: Pittman Junior.

1486
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 4: Said, situations and stakes, it's on the way. It's Fox

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01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 4: Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff, presented by bet MGM.

1488
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:17,679
Speaker 3: The guy is drunk, but there he goes.

1489
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 4: It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff, presented by

1490
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 4: bet MGM.

1491
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 3: Let's dive on into this.

1492
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 1: Any situation that may arrived. It's a situation room.

1493
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 4: I'd be sure to follow BETMGM across all socials at BETMGM. Okay,

1494
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 4: mister Jared Smith, you got situations for us debunking myths.

1495
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 4: Let's not start off with Anthony Richardson is a Greek

1496
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:47,680
Speaker 4: god and it's gonna start.

1497
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 3: To set the world on fire. Let's start somewhere else.

1498
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 3: Where's your head at today. Let's start with the do theory.

1499
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 3: We hear this all the time.

1500
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 7: This team is due. They haven't won in this many games.

1501
01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 3: They're due.

1502
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 7: That is the gambler's fallacy. So the gambler's fallacy is

1503
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 7: you walk up to a.

1504
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 3: Let's say a.

1505
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 7: Table that is doing a coin flip, and you say, well,

1506
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 7: the odds are even on both sides, fifty to fifty, right,

1507
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 7: it's coin.

1508
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 3: Flip pedsert tails. But you look at the little.

1509
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 7: Screen and you see the last twenty flips have all

1510
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 7: been tails.

1511
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 3: Oh, well, heads is due.

1512
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 7: I'm gonna bet heads on the next time because the

1513
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 7: last twenty flips have all been tails. Actually, the next

1514
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 7: flip fifty percent heads, fifty percent tails. It does not

1515
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 7: matter what a team has done last week, last month,

1516
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 7: last season, each roll of the dice, each flip of

1517
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 7: the coin is its own independent simulation. In sports betting,

1518
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 7: each game is very much not connected to what happened

1519
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 7: last week. There are situations that we can maybe glean

1520
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 7: from last week and use as our handicap to bake

1521
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:58,680
Speaker 7: the cake, But in general, the do theory is a

1522
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 7: myth and I would advise all of you against using

1523
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 7: it this year.

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01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 4: So when a rich sucks in the first four games,

1525
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 4: you're not gonna say he's the two five is that.

1526
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 7: He's No, we're not going to say that because usually

1527
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 7: each individual game is its own independent event.

1528
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 6: See that is interesting because football seasons, like years, the

1529
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 6: way coaches look at it, they're all in vacuums, right,

1530
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 6: But we believe in a locker room, in momentum. Right,

1531
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:33,759
Speaker 6: So when we're when we're sitting in a practice meeting

1532
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 6: after a two game win streak, the feeling in that

1533
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 6: room is way different than you're on.

1534
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 5: A two game losing streak. Sure you know what I'm saying.

1535
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 6: So, like, it's interesting in the betting world that we

1536
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:48,640
Speaker 6: look at it in a vacuum, but in actuality, and

1537
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:51,679
Speaker 6: I mean living through it and experiencing it and being

1538
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:54,679
Speaker 6: a part of wins and losses throughout my entire point career,

1539
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 6: whether it's college or pro. I mean, there is momentum

1540
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 6: that's not that's that's not a fake thing, it's a

1541
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 6: real thing.

1542
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:02,639
Speaker 5: I've felt it, Like.

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01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 7: I pushback is with that momentum, the market will then

1544
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 7: move in your favor. Oh I g Yeah, the Patriots

1545
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 7: win this week, they win, next week, they win the following,

1546
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:14,719
Speaker 7: they've won three games in a row in week four,

1547
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 7: the market will move so much to where it's not

1548
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 7: the same, it's not as valuable of a wager the following.

1549
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 3: You know what, you can kind of catch my drift

1550
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 3: a little bit.

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01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, no, no, that does make sense because you're

1552
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 6: saying the momentum is built into.

1553
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 7: The price exactly, It's baked into the cake already, and

1554
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 7: we need to handicap that game individually, independently of what

1555
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 7: happened the prior weeks, because it doesn't matter what happened

1556
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 7: last week.

1557
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 3: Last week the price was different than it is this week.

1558
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 3: D You'll hear me.

1559
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 7: Talk about the price and relative to the market a

1560
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 7: lot this year, because to me, that matters so much

1561
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 7: more than momentum.

1562
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 4: See I like how Ridge disagrees better. I just straight

1563
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:58,639
Speaker 4: out say I totally disagree. But Rich will say something like.

1564
01:19:58,920 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 3: Well, Rich is a nice guy.

1565
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 4: Listen, you gotta listen. Listen, put on your listening ears,

1566
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 4: and shut up for a second. See what I say.

1567
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,879
Speaker 3: See how I am? Yeah, He'll say, you know, see

1568
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 3: that's interesting.

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01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 4: That's him disagreeing in a very likable manner.

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01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, very likable person, Brian, true. Yeah, you

1571
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,799
Speaker 5: should see. You should just ask my wife. I mean, really,

1572
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 5: this is a good debate.

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01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 7: It is.

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01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 3: I see both sides of this argument.

1575
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:32,719
Speaker 7: But I try to treat every game like I don't

1576
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 7: remember what happened last week.

1577
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:36,560
Speaker 3: It's all fresh, fresh.

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01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 4: Powder, okay, coming up next, high stakes potentially. And also

1579
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:46,799
Speaker 4: this is the definition of desperation mode.

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01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:47,759
Speaker 5: Oh baby.

1581
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 9: In Major League Baseball, on Friday night, the Tampa Bay

1582
01:20:55,600 --> 01:21:00,040
Speaker 9: Rains and Los Angeles Angels squared off in Anaheim. The

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01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 9: Angels turned their first triple play in twenty six years.

1584
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 9: Show Hey Otani hit a grand Slam home run, his

1585
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:11,799
Speaker 9: forty third of the season, and you guested. The Angels

1586
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 9: lost in ten innings, nine to six to the Tampa

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01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 9: Bay Rays. The Miami Marlins hit five home runs and

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01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 9: an eleven three victory. Over the Dodgers in LA, breaking

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01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 9: the dodgers eleven game winning streak. Padres over the Diamondbacks

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01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 9: four nothing. San Diego scored four in the eighth, including

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01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,640
Speaker 9: a two run home run by Fernando Tatis Junior, his

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01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 9: twentieth of the season. NFL preseason Friday Night Bengals and

1593
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 9: Falcons played to a thirteen to thirteen tied. Giants over

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01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 9: the Panthers twenty one to nineteen. Carolina rookie quarterback Bryce

1595
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 9: Young completed three of six passes for thirty five yards.

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01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 9: I'm Isaac Lohencron.

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Speaker 3: Are you ready to witness quotes?

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Speaker 2: Football fans? Welcome to the biggest tailgate party.

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Speaker 1: In the nation.

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Speaker 3: Different day than recipe.

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Speaker 2: Here's Brian No, former Penn State All American, Rich Ornberger

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Speaker 2: and FSR betting analyst Jared Smith.

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Speaker 4: Desperation mode defined that is on the way it is

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Speaker 3: Okay, so how about Stanford?

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01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 4: Oh Man, So Stanford, they have told the ACC they'd

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01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 4: be willing to join the conference on a reduced or

1620
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 4: even no media rights payout. They are that desperate. We're

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01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 4: in the pack four right now. Everybody's left the back

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01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 4: twelve pretty much. We need to go somewhere. If it's

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01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 4: the ACC, fine, don't even worry about paying us. And

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01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 4: that's where they are right now, where they're basically saying,

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01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 4: but we're good in the Olympic sports.

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01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:37,600
Speaker 3: You know, we don't make money off of them. But

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01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 3: that counts for something, right? Can you pretend it counts

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01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 3: for something?

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01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 4: They're willing to take reduced or no media rights payout

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01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 4: to join the ACC.

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01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,719
Speaker 3: That's where they are right now wow. Wow.

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01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 6: You know, look, the sad thing about this is Stanford,

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01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 6: not too long ago, from a football standpoint, in the pact,

1634
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 6: in the PAC twelve, when it still was the PAC twelve,

1635
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 6: was one of those teams that was gaining some ground

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01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 6: nationally where preseason prospectuses or prospecti or prospectuses I don't

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01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 6: know how to.

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01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 5: Pluralize that word cacti. They were. They were really positive.

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01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 6: And to see where that program is now and to

1640
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 6: see where the PAC twelve is now, it just look,

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01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 6: I mean, this is a microcosm of the mismanagement of

1642
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 6: that conference top to bottom. I mean, you read that

1643
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 6: La Times article like I'm sure everybody else did. It's

1644
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 6: it's just been a comedy of eras and this is

1645
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 6: this is what occurs when you overplay your hand.

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01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't have a whole lot of faith in

1647
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 7: the in in the product that we're going to see

1648
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 7: this year and overall with these teams, it's going to

1649
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 7: deteriorate because maybe not this year, but what this does,

1650
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 7: it's a trickle down effect. Just like teams joining the

1651
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 7: bigger conferences will eventually have the opposite effect in terms

1652
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 7: of the recruiting and the television money and all of

1653
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 7: the things that come with that, the boost and nil

1654
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 7: money and the boosters and all of the little bells

1655
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 7: and whistles that come with being a have in college

1656
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 7: football instead of have not. And you mentioned it off

1657
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 7: the top, Brine, and that is how desperate these teams

1658
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 7: are to get back to the table a seat at

1659
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 7: that table. They are willing to forfeit millions of dollars

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01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 7: just to get a seat at the table. It shows

1661
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 7: how important the conference, unfortunately, alignment and realignment and misalignment

1662
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:48,640
Speaker 7: is in the landscape of college football today. I have

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01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 7: been a proponent on this show and every show that

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01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:52,680
Speaker 7: I go on that will listen to me. Conferences in

1665
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 7: college football are meaningless. We don't need them anymore. The

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01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 7: only reason why they exist is because it's nostalgic to

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01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 7: have these teams play each other, and because there's this

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01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 7: whoever commissioner is grabbing onto these conferences and praying that

1669
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:10,599
Speaker 7: we can keep this structure in set because they get

1670
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 7: paid based off of how much television money they get.

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01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 7: But in terms of what the conferences do today, they're useless.

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01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 3: They're like your appendix.

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01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 7: If we got rid of all the conferences today again,

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01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:27,599
Speaker 7: nostalgia aside, and we just set up a top thirty

1675
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 7: teams in college football and we just play a season

1676
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:34,599
Speaker 7: with those teams, we would have a very similar outcome

1677
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 7: to what we have now. With the conference format, I

1678
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:39,600
Speaker 7: think we are moving towards a two party system in

1679
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:42,680
Speaker 7: college football, where there's two major conferences that compete every

1680
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:44,759
Speaker 7: year and nothing else really.

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01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 3: Matters outside of that.

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01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 4: You know, I've heard that talked about a lot, and

1683
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 4: I just don't see it. Look, I don't have a

1684
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 4: crystal ball. You might be right, shared I don't know.

1685
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 4: I just don't see it. To me, that's saying the

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01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 4: quiet part out loud. You know, we know that there

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01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 4: are only you know, whatever, you want to put the

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01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 4: number at thirty some schools that have a legitimate chance

1689
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 4: to compete and win a championship right now, that's the way,

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01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:12,680
Speaker 4: that's the reality right now. Why do we have to

1691
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 4: make it official, you know, by splintering off and having

1692
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 4: just those thirty teams which listen, they jockey back and

1693
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 4: forth a little bit, like, I just don't see that

1694
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 4: being the landscape of college football. I think it's gonna

1695
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 4: remain relatively similar where you get teams shifting here they

1696
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,680
Speaker 4: join this conference. All right, here's the setup. Okay, we're

1697
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:36,680
Speaker 4: gonna tweak the playoff format. It's gonna be this. I

1698
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:39,879
Speaker 4: think we're gonna see a lot more tweaking than something

1699
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 4: just absolutely seismic where you're splintering off and they're just

1700
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 4: these thirty teams where I don't want to get to

1701
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:52,680
Speaker 4: you know, philosophical here. But this is the day and

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01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 4: age of inclusion, you know what I mean. And for

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01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 4: the most part, it's good. You deserve a seat at

1704
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,759
Speaker 4: the table, like you're not excluded here. But college football

1705
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 4: is just going to swing the exa opposite way and

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01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 4: say it's just these thirty schools and just these thirty

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01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 4: schools alone.

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01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 3: I don't see it. I hope I'm right.

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01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 5: You know.

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01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 3: Maybe that's part of it, that's what I'm.

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01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 4: Rooting for, but I just don't see it logistically happening,

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01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:17,679
Speaker 4: even though it's talked about a lot.

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01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I agree with you.

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01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 6: I think, well, not for nostalgist sake, but because it's

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01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 6: something that there are still people who are in places

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01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 6: of being in charge who still like conferences, and those

1717
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 6: people are being paid to be involved with conferences. So

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01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:40,840
Speaker 6: as long as there's still salaries being collected by commissioners

1719
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 6: and executives and chair people, you're going to have people

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01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 6: interested in keeping conferences alive. Look, there are a lot

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01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 6: of jobs in the United States. Look, there's a lot

1722
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 6: of important jobs. But there are a lot of jobs

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01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,599
Speaker 6: in the United States and across the world that don't matter.

1724
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 6: And there's a lot of people who go to work

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01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 6: every day and they realize how little they do on

1726
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 6: a daily basis. Like they go to the office, they

1727
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 6: punch their card, they try to look busy for the

1728
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 6: entire workday, but they realize that they only really have

1729
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 6: two hours of work today.

1730
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 5: They're getting paid for eight.

1731
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 6: And then they go home and they feel like they're

1732
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 6: chained to their desk. But at the same token, like

1733
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:20,760
Speaker 6: there's a little bit of a feeling of, well, be

1734
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 6: grateful that you have that job, because that job is

1735
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:27,639
Speaker 6: relatively meaningless in the grand scheme of things. And that's

1736
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,759
Speaker 6: kind of how I feel about conferences, Like you don't

1737
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 6: necessarily need them, but there is this feeling of, well,

1738
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 6: how will it look on the other side, and will

1739
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 6: we be living in the land of unintended consequences without them?

1740
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 7: You know, it just sounds like us. This sounds like you,

1741
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 7: guys are the person that's afraid to break up with

1742
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:51,240
Speaker 7: their girlfriend because you're afraid of being single, not because

1743
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 7: the relationship itself is toxic. It's a terrible like the

1744
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 7: conference relationship right now is toxic. It is toxic. I'm

1745
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:01,320
Speaker 7: gonna look you in the eyes and tell you I'm

1746
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:03,720
Speaker 7: gonna stay and I'm going to turn around and look

1747
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 7: at the other direction and leave. It's toxic. And a

1748
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 7: lot of people are afraid of change, and I understand that,

1749
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 7: and I'm not gonna say that we're gonna just evolve

1750
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:15,439
Speaker 7: into a two party system overnight. I'm gonna treat it

1751
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 7: like my fitness routine over the summer. When I started

1752
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 7: my fitness routine, I couldn't run a mile consecutively without stopping.

1753
01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 7: Three months later, slow incrementally getting better and stronger and

1754
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 7: faster and healthier, and now I can run a mile

1755
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 7: without stopping. I'm not looking for a pat on the back,

1756
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 7: but if you want to give me one, I will

1757
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 7: certainly take it. But my point being, it doesn't happen overnight.

1758
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:40,520
Speaker 7: We are now in let's say, the third inning of conferences,

1759
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 7: just completely imploding on each other. We saw it a

1760
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:47,680
Speaker 7: little bit with the SEC getting Texas and Oklahoma, and

1761
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 7: then the Big ten gets there, UCLA and USC, and

1762
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:55,559
Speaker 7: now the PAC twelve starts dissolving into evaporating into thin air.

1763
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:57,760
Speaker 7: And all of those people that you mentioned that still

1764
01:30:57,760 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 7: have jobs in the PAC twelve, well they might not

1765
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:03,440
Speaker 7: add them anymore coming soon, and we are taking small

1766
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 7: steps one by one. In ten years, this format that

1767
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 7: we're talking about today will look nothing like we are

1768
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:15,160
Speaker 7: about to experience this college football season.

1769
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 3: It will be unrecognizable. What will it look like.

1770
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 7: I don't have a crystal ball either, I don't know.

1771
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 7: Actually I do have a crystal ball, but I don't

1772
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:22,599
Speaker 7: use it for that.

1773
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:23,519
Speaker 3: I use it for other things.

1774
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:27,599
Speaker 7: But my point being, I don't necessarily think we are

1775
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:31,160
Speaker 7: that far away from a two party system. But I'm

1776
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 7: trying to look at the forest through the trees, and

1777
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 7: it's tough right now, but I could see a path.

1778
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 3: I can see a path to it.

1779
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 7: But it's gonna take time, and it's gonna take a

1780
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 7: lot more of Callan Stanford willing to basically bail on

1781
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 7: everything just to get a seat at the ACC.

1782
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't see it, and I hope we never

1783
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 4: do see it because I think when you when you

1784
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 4: stop and think, if it was just thirty teams and

1785
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 4: that's it and they're competing for the national championship, there are,

1786
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:02,640
Speaker 4: believe it or not, some quality teams that aren't a

1787
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:06,080
Speaker 4: part of that mix, and to riches can, how is

1788
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 4: that gonna work? How is that gonna work? Exactly? I

1789
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:13,680
Speaker 4: don't see this being European soccer. I don't see relegation

1790
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:15,680
Speaker 4: and I don't see that being the reality.

1791
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 3: And what rich said is true.

1792
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:20,679
Speaker 4: It would be like, okay, you know what, Bob bowlsby,

1793
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:24,080
Speaker 4: thanks for your contributions. We'll take it from here, you know,

1794
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:26,920
Speaker 4: or you know what I mean, like yorkm over it

1795
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:31,080
Speaker 4: with the Big twelve, or hey, acc commissioner, we don't

1796
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:33,720
Speaker 4: even you anymore in this think we're just gonna go

1797
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 4: with Greg Zank and he's the guy, and you other guys.

1798
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 4: You know, hopefully you've updated your resumes. You'll land on

1799
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 4: your feet. It'll be fine, you know what I mean.

1800
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 4: Like in some of these schools, if you look at

1801
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:46,479
Speaker 4: the top thirty teams right now, Auburn's not one of them.

1802
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 4: You'd have Auburn on the outside like they've they've won

1803
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 4: it all before. It it's weird to think about it

1804
01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 4: like that. I just don't think that's the case. Time

1805
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:58,800
Speaker 4: will tell what the landscape is gonna look like ten

1806
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 4: years from now. Your guess is as good as mine.

1807
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 4: I don't think it's gonna be just these thirty teams

1808
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 4: and then everybody else. Hey man, play for second place

1809
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:10,880
Speaker 4: in whatever Piddley format you come up with. But the

1810
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:13,000
Speaker 4: here and now is this. How about the PAC twelve?

1811
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 4: I think this is an interesting bet on bet MGM. Yeah,

1812
01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:20,000
Speaker 4: you can go with either USC or UCLA to win

1813
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:23,559
Speaker 4: the conference, or you can take the field. So USC

1814
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:26,320
Speaker 4: slash UCLA is at plus one twenty five, so a

1815
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 4: little bit better than even money. The field is at

1816
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 4: minus one sixty five, so you'd have to lay one

1817
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:37,519
Speaker 4: sixty five to win one hundred dollars. You just risk it, right, Yeah,

1818
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:39,640
Speaker 4: to win that. Well, what are you guys taking? Are

1819
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:42,479
Speaker 4: you taking a so cal or are you going with

1820
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:44,719
Speaker 4: the field there to win the PAC twelve this season?

1821
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:45,040
Speaker 5: Boy?

1822
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 6: USC is doing a lot of work on that, uh

1823
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 6: on their end of that.

1824
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:56,160
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, Well we'll toss in UCLA. Is you know

1825
01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:58,679
Speaker 3: they wanted to give you the Hollywood tale.

1826
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:02,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Hollywood versus the field. Yeah.

1827
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:06,320
Speaker 6: I mean honestly, I am going with USC UCLA against

1828
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:09,400
Speaker 6: the field because I think USC wins that conference. But

1829
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 6: but and it's a big butt. The The thing, the

1830
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 6: thing that drives me crazy is it doesn't matter right

1831
01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:20,160
Speaker 6: now if you win your conference. It just doesn't, you know.

1832
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 6: I mean, like, there's there's no automatic bid. There's no

1833
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:27,040
Speaker 6: there's there's nothing that makes you feel the warm and

1834
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:31,760
Speaker 6: fuzzies around around tournament time with a four team bracket.

1835
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:35,120
Speaker 6: So it doesn't matter yet. Now there may be a

1836
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 6: system one day where the conferences do get auto bids

1837
01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 6: and then we start really starting, I mean starting then

1838
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 6: we focus our attention on the importance of conferences. But

1839
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 6: going back to the original conversation about Stanford and them

1840
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:52,640
Speaker 6: leaving the PAC twelve for no money, and you know,

1841
01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 6: the conference is devolving, dissolving into maybe a two party system.

1842
01:34:57,760 --> 01:34:59,760
Speaker 6: I have two kids. I have an eight year old

1843
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 6: and a five year old. They were born of the

1844
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:07,040
Speaker 6: Netflix era, the streaming era. They know no different. We

1845
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:11,959
Speaker 6: were cord cutters before they really were cognizant of anything.

1846
01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:16,960
Speaker 6: So we don't have traditional cable. They will never know

1847
01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:21,360
Speaker 6: the joys of channel surfing like I did. And by

1848
01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:24,639
Speaker 6: the way, they're not missing out. They don't care because

1849
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 6: they don't know any different. This bothers us because we're

1850
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:32,400
Speaker 6: in our thirties, we're in our forties. This isn't gonna

1851
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:36,000
Speaker 6: bother a fifteen year old because guess what, when they

1852
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 6: start sports betting or they really start paying attention to

1853
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:43,640
Speaker 6: their alma mater, they're gonna be indoctrinated. So when my

1854
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 6: kid says, hey, Dad, can we this is boring? Can

1855
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:48,280
Speaker 6: we turn on the Disney app?

1856
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 11: And I'm like, gosh, geez, now, I gotta exit this

1857
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:54,599
Speaker 11: app and I gotta start the Disney Plus and then

1858
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 11: I gotta scroll through all the options and I gotta

1859
01:35:57,280 --> 01:35:59,240
Speaker 11: find the Thunderman's.

1860
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 6: Like he doesn't understand that it used to be all

1861
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:04,599
Speaker 6: I had to do is hit channel back to go

1862
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:09,320
Speaker 6: back to the Disney channel to get around the commercial break, like.

1863
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 5: He has no awareness of this.

1864
01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:19,760
Speaker 6: So again, I think we're having this debate over conferences

1865
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:24,080
Speaker 6: because we're indoctrinated to understanding the importance of conferences. But

1866
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:26,800
Speaker 6: to some fifteen year old kid who's just starting to

1867
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 6: get involved in football and college football and understanding the conferences.

1868
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:35,240
Speaker 5: He's probably saying, hey, Dad, why are there conferences?

1869
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 3: This doesn't make any sense, and he's.

1870
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:41,720
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, if I ever have kids, they're not going

1871
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 7: to know what conferences are. That's how far down the

1872
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:45,840
Speaker 7: road we're going to be when that happened. I mean,

1873
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:48,080
Speaker 7: and I think I don't want to go too much

1874
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:51,160
Speaker 7: into this crazy hypothetical. This is the scenario that I

1875
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:53,439
Speaker 7: see playing out with conferences because I really don't know.

1876
01:36:54,479 --> 01:36:58,679
Speaker 7: I think I think it makes sense that there's really

1877
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:01,240
Speaker 7: only thirty to forty teams every year that have any

1878
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 7: reasonable chance of winning a national title. I think it

1879
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:06,639
Speaker 7: makes sense to group those teams together. But I also

1880
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:10,759
Speaker 7: see why there are a lot of positives to keeping

1881
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:15,080
Speaker 7: these teams kind of group together based off of I

1882
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 7: don't know, you can't even call it region anymore. It's

1883
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 7: just more based off of need, I guess, and then

1884
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:22,439
Speaker 7: you kind of filter it down and then you get

1885
01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:26,839
Speaker 7: to that top sixteen, which is the College of Well Playoff,

1886
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:29,720
Speaker 7: which is I think the number we're moving towards eventually.

1887
01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 3: But the PAC twelve is syinara. I mean, it's over.

1888
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 7: It's a conference of champions, and it's a conference that

1889
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:41,920
Speaker 7: I think is really good in the sports that unfortunately

1890
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:45,000
Speaker 7: don't matter. But to go back to Brian's original question

1891
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:47,720
Speaker 7: on what I would do with that, bet absolutely take

1892
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:51,000
Speaker 7: the field. I like Oregon, I like Utah, I like Washington.

1893
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 7: I get three of those teams. There are no divisions

1894
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:56,519
Speaker 7: in the PAC twelve this year, which means the top

1895
01:37:56,600 --> 01:38:00,240
Speaker 7: two teams straight up will play each other in Pac

1896
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:03,800
Speaker 7: twelf championship game. I feel highly confident it will not

1897
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:08,599
Speaker 7: be USC versus UCLA. And if that's the case, if

1898
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 7: I pick the field, I am guaranteed to have one

1899
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 7: team in the conference championship game with a plus whatever

1900
01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 7: whatever minus whatever. Wage You're there and then I can

1901
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 7: either bet the other side or I can figure out what.

1902
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 3: I want to do with it then.

1903
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:26,280
Speaker 7: But it doesn't make sense to take two when I

1904
01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:29,400
Speaker 7: can have I think three or four worthy candidates in

1905
01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:29,840
Speaker 7: the field.

1906
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 4: No, I hear you on that. I agree with that.

1907
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 4: I look at it the same way. One little thing,

1908
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:38,080
Speaker 4: I'll put a little bow on this whole conference realignment thing.

1909
01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:40,120
Speaker 3: There's one thing I hate. I don't know if you

1910
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 3: guys are the same way.

1911
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:45,880
Speaker 4: If I go visit friends or family and let's say

1912
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:51,880
Speaker 4: I'm leaving on Sunday. I hate when they discuss, Hey, hey,

1913
01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:53,880
Speaker 4: on Wednesday.

1914
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:55,599
Speaker 3: We've got that thing and we're gonna.

1915
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:57,400
Speaker 4: Go here or go there or whatever, you know what

1916
01:38:57,439 --> 01:39:00,559
Speaker 4: I mean, Like if it's friends or family, like I

1917
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:02,600
Speaker 4: want to have that time with them, you know, and

1918
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:05,000
Speaker 4: I'm not going to be around and I think I

1919
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:08,360
Speaker 4: don't care about Wednesday. I care about now. I care

1920
01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:11,439
Speaker 4: about today. And I think we're seeing that with conference realignment.

1921
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:15,320
Speaker 4: There's so much focus on the future and where things

1922
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 4: are headed and are we going to have two conferences

1923
01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:20,680
Speaker 4: and what's the landscape going to be? And that's not

1924
01:39:20,760 --> 01:39:24,040
Speaker 4: all bad, but if we're so hyper focused on it

1925
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:26,080
Speaker 4: to the point where it's like, oh, yeah, we got

1926
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:29,200
Speaker 4: a season this year that's coming up, right, Like I

1927
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:33,160
Speaker 4: think we're spending way too much time. I agree, right,

1928
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:37,480
Speaker 4: just freaked out, Like we've got realignment anxiety.

1929
01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 3: It's a walking point and listen, we have a lot

1930
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:40,800
Speaker 3: of airtime to fill.

1931
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:43,360
Speaker 7: But no, no, yeah, there's nothing wrong with seasons about

1932
01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:44,679
Speaker 7: the start and yeah, but it's.

1933
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:49,559
Speaker 4: Like, oh, yeah, the twenty twenty three season is here. Yeah,

1934
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:53,080
Speaker 4: Like what why are we worried about twenty thirty four

1935
01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:54,280
Speaker 4: and what conference?

1936
01:39:55,720 --> 01:39:57,200
Speaker 3: That's just where we are sorry.

1937
01:39:57,240 --> 01:39:59,719
Speaker 7: It's human nature, though. We always think about the future

1938
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Speaker 7: and st that have enjoyed the present.

1939
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 4: Hey, man, it's okay to think about it, it's okay

1940
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:08,840
Speaker 4: to consider considerate, but to dwell on it at the expense.

1941
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 3: Of the now.

1942
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:11,720
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Speaker 4: We've got rich Orenberger, Penn State, All American. He's doing

1948
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Speaker 4: skull crushers. He's ready for the season. We've got Jared Smith,

1949
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:32,240
Speaker 4: he's running a mile.

1950
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:33,439
Speaker 10: Are you ready?

1951
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:36,360
Speaker 7: I'm really proud of that fewd I know it doesn't

1952
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:38,479
Speaker 7: sound very like a big deal, but when I got

1953
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:40,479
Speaker 7: my full mile in it was like two weeks ago.

1954
01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:42,400
Speaker 3: For the first time it's without stopping. It was a

1955
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:42,960
Speaker 3: big deal for me.

1956
01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:46,840
Speaker 4: It's good FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian No, I couldn't

1957
01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:48,679
Speaker 4: run a mile straight right now, I'll tell you that much.

1958
01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 4: A couple of knee surgeries.

1959
01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:52,839
Speaker 3: To work on the time of that mile. But hey

1960
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:54,760
Speaker 3: we got through. Hey you got there, you got there.

1961
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Speaker 3: Coming up next?

1962
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Speaker 4: Rich had it right last year, will he run it

1963
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1976
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Speaker 1: Co Heisman Watch ge.

1977
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:54,439
Speaker 4: Okay, So first things, first, props to Rich Ornberger because

1978
01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 4: we did the Heisman Watch last season, and very early

1979
01:41:57,960 --> 01:42:00,559
Speaker 4: on he was like, you know this, Caleb William guy,

1980
01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:04,160
Speaker 4: and I certainly was. I think you were too. Jared,

1981
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:06,559
Speaker 4: We're like, USC's not gonna win enough. They're coming off

1982
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:10,280
Speaker 4: a four and eight season, their defense is brutal, and

1983
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:11,560
Speaker 4: Caleb Williams.

1984
01:42:11,240 --> 01:42:11,839
Speaker 3: Won the Heisman.

1985
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:17,120
Speaker 4: I don't know if you want to just run it

1986
01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:19,519
Speaker 4: back this year and call your shot Who's gonna win it?

1987
01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:19,800
Speaker 5: Rich?

1988
01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:20,840
Speaker 3: What are you thinking here? Man?

1989
01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:22,280
Speaker 5: It's Jordan Travis.

1990
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:26,519
Speaker 6: Jordan Travis will win the Heisman the Florida State Seminole.

1991
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:30,320
Speaker 6: And because remember this isn't just about stats. Stats are

1992
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:34,639
Speaker 6: truly important in the Heisman race, but it's also narrative.

1993
01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:37,760
Speaker 6: It's also storyline. This is a team that has been

1994
01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:42,519
Speaker 6: decimated with losing seasons from twenty eighteen through twenty twenty one,

1995
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:46,520
Speaker 6: Florida State returns a whole lot of weapons for Jordan Travis.

1996
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:49,519
Speaker 6: The Seminoles are making a lot of noise in their conference.

1997
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:52,800
Speaker 6: Maybe they want to jump ship if this If this

1998
01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:55,200
Speaker 6: guy is as good as he looked in twenty twenty two,

1999
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:58,040
Speaker 6: because if you look at big time throws, which are

2000
01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:03,080
Speaker 6: excellent timing, downfield, perfect ball placement, he was only beaten

2001
01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 6: out by Caleb Williams last year. So if the Seminoles

2002
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:09,400
Speaker 6: have that special of a season like I'm expecting them

2003
01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:13,440
Speaker 6: to this year with how they've reloaded over this offseason,

2004
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:17,640
Speaker 6: look out, Jordan Travis might be the runaway favorite by midseason.

2005
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:19,160
Speaker 5: Wow.

2006
01:43:19,280 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 3: How I really liked that? And here's why I love it.

2007
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:27,439
Speaker 7: I love correlating these bets to what the odds are

2008
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 7: to make the college football playoff because let's be honest,

2009
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 7: if one of these guys is going to win this award,

2010
01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:37,840
Speaker 7: the team's success has to also be there. And so

2011
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:39,840
Speaker 7: when I look at a team like Florida State that's

2012
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:43,320
Speaker 7: three to one to make the College football Playoff, and

2013
01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:47,040
Speaker 7: then you look at Jordan Travis's odds at sixteen to

2014
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:50,600
Speaker 7: one to win the Heisman Trophy, in my eyes, those.

2015
01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:51,840
Speaker 3: Bets are the same.

2016
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:55,679
Speaker 7: If Florida State makes the college football Playoff, Jordan Travis

2017
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:58,040
Speaker 7: is going to be on the Heisman podium. I don't

2018
01:43:58,080 --> 01:44:01,479
Speaker 7: think there's any debate there at all, Franks. So if

2019
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:03,920
Speaker 7: I'm going to make a three to one wage you're

2020
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:07,000
Speaker 7: thinking that Florida State can make the College ball Playoff,

2021
01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:10,880
Speaker 7: I would rather just bet sixteen to one Jordan Travis

2022
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:12,840
Speaker 7: to win the Heisman Trophy because, again, in my eyes,

2023
01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:17,519
Speaker 7: if Florida State makes the playoff, it's because of Jordan Travis.

2024
01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:20,320
Speaker 7: In his unbelievable season, and those two bets make sense.

2025
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:23,080
Speaker 7: I'll give you another one that in my eyes correlates

2026
01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:27,040
Speaker 7: to what the college ball playoff market says LSU, which

2027
01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:30,439
Speaker 7: is plus three twenty five to make the playoff. Jayden

2028
01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:33,559
Speaker 7: Daniels is nine to one to win the Heisman if

2029
01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:37,759
Speaker 7: LSU is able to beat Alabama during the regular season,

2030
01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:40,760
Speaker 7: go to the go to the SEC Championship game, win

2031
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 7: beat Georgia, Jayde Daniels is gonna be a big reason

2032
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:48,160
Speaker 7: why he to me is that, well, if LSU's team

2033
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:51,479
Speaker 7: success makes sense, you have to give Jaydon Daniels to

2034
01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:54,120
Speaker 7: Heisman not as well. So I'd put Jordan Travis and

2035
01:44:54,160 --> 01:44:57,080
Speaker 7: I'd put Jayde Daniels in my Heisman portfolio.

2036
01:44:57,360 --> 01:45:02,400
Speaker 4: Preseason, our trusted producer both and pointed out something interesting

2037
01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:04,759
Speaker 4: where if you look at these Heisman odds, the top

2038
01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:09,240
Speaker 4: twelve guys with the shortest odds are all quarterbacks. That

2039
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:12,080
Speaker 4: makes total You had to get to thirteenth overall with

2040
01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:15,800
Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Junior, the Ohio state wide receiver to find

2041
01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:18,519
Speaker 4: a non quarterback boasted there. And now think about this,

2042
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:21,880
Speaker 4: this is the Heisman Trophy. We've seen plenty of running

2043
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:26,360
Speaker 4: backs we've seen wide receivers, we've even seen a defensive player,

2044
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:28,160
Speaker 4: and Charles Woodson win it.

2045
01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:32,040
Speaker 3: Right, Like, it's not just a quarterback award yet.

2046
01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:34,960
Speaker 4: In this season in college football, top twelve guys are

2047
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:38,639
Speaker 4: all quarterbacks. Sixteenth is Blake Korum out of Michigan. Now

2048
01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:41,000
Speaker 4: he's coming off the knee injury, but he was right

2049
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:45,040
Speaker 4: in line. He was a legitimate Heisman contender before a

2050
01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:48,559
Speaker 4: late season injury. And he's sixteenth on the list this year,

2051
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:52,519
Speaker 4: and he's the top running back on the list. So

2052
01:45:52,640 --> 01:45:56,240
Speaker 4: it's wild the landscape in terms of quarterbacks dominating here

2053
01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:58,920
Speaker 4: in college football. As far as the Heisman odds to

2054
01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:01,639
Speaker 4: begin the season, I love.

2055
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:04,160
Speaker 6: I love this so much, Like this is the bet

2056
01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 6: that I look forward to every single season because I

2057
01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:10,760
Speaker 6: feel like, I look, you know, look, there are a

2058
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:14,320
Speaker 6: lot of fun futures bets, but picking a horse, you know,

2059
01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 6: kind of like you're out of track and saying like no, no, no, no,

2060
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:20,680
Speaker 6: there's something special about that three horse, the way he.

2061
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:24,439
Speaker 5: Was eating carrots but pre race, Like I just, I mean,

2062
01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:25,680
Speaker 5: Heisman odds are like that.

2063
01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:29,799
Speaker 6: It's a you have stallions out there, It's the Kentucky Derby.

2064
01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 6: Everybody's wearing their goofy hats. Let's go like this is

2065
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 6: this is a fun bet to place and I think

2066
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:39,360
Speaker 6: that I actually give him what you said, Jared, I

2067
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:42,559
Speaker 6: didn't even think of it as correlative, Like when you

2068
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:46,040
Speaker 6: look at the team overall and you're assuming their success

2069
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 6: and then basing some of your Heisman picking off of that.

2070
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:51,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I know Florida.

2071
01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 6: State's gonna have a good team, but yeah, if you

2072
01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:56,280
Speaker 6: believe in the Seminoles, if you believe they're gonna have

2073
01:46:56,320 --> 01:46:59,640
Speaker 6: a good year, well then it's going to mostly be

2074
01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:02,520
Speaker 6: bold by the fact that they have a stud at quarterback,

2075
01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:05,639
Speaker 6: and so that should just be sort of hand and glove.

2076
01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:08,920
Speaker 6: So this is my favorite bet of the year, and

2077
01:47:09,240 --> 01:47:12,360
Speaker 6: also probably because I guessed it right last year as well.

2078
01:47:12,479 --> 01:47:14,800
Speaker 7: Yes, one of these quarterbacks is gonna make a move too.

2079
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:16,400
Speaker 7: I don't know if it's gonna be Colm McCord at

2080
01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:18,719
Speaker 7: Ohio State. I don't know if it's gonna be Milroe

2081
01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:22,000
Speaker 7: at Alabama, one of these quarterbacks or the kid from

2082
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:23,320
Speaker 7: Georgia to Carson Beck.

2083
01:47:23,479 --> 01:47:24,400
Speaker 3: Like one of those.

2084
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:27,559
Speaker 7: And again, you should not be looking at a Heisman

2085
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:30,640
Speaker 7: Trophy candidate that is on a team that has no

2086
01:47:30,760 --> 01:47:33,599
Speaker 7: chance to make the playoff. It just I just don't

2087
01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:38,280
Speaker 7: see any opportunity for a team that is seven and

2088
01:47:38,439 --> 01:47:40,639
Speaker 7: five to put a guy on the Heisman podium.

2089
01:47:40,640 --> 01:47:43,800
Speaker 3: It's just it's so rare and it doesn't happen very often.

2090
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:46,320
Speaker 7: They have to be at least in their conference championship

2091
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:49,600
Speaker 7: game or on the road to the College ball playoff,

2092
01:47:49,640 --> 01:47:52,760
Speaker 7: that team's success correlates to a Heisman trophy. That's why

2093
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:54,920
Speaker 7: I'm down on a guy like Drake May because I

2094
01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:56,479
Speaker 7: guess I don't see it with UNC.

2095
01:47:56,880 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 3: I don't see them winning ten or eleven games. I

2096
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:02,200
Speaker 3: don't see them making it to the AEC championship game.

2097
01:48:02,439 --> 01:48:06,000
Speaker 7: And as talented as he is, I can't get behind

2098
01:48:06,040 --> 01:48:08,680
Speaker 7: a guy to win a Heisman that I don't think

2099
01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:10,840
Speaker 7: his team can even win their conference, which is not

2100
01:48:10,840 --> 01:48:13,200
Speaker 7: a very good conference to begin with. Like UNC is

2101
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:16,519
Speaker 7: the third best team in their conference, they're UNC in

2102
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:17,200
Speaker 7: the ACC.

2103
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:19,839
Speaker 3: So try to keep that in mind when you're placing

2104
01:48:19,880 --> 01:48:20,720
Speaker 3: these these.

2105
01:48:20,479 --> 01:48:23,400
Speaker 7: These Heisman back Try to pick horses on teams that

2106
01:48:23,479 --> 01:48:27,040
Speaker 7: had a stable of good horses already that you could

2107
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:28,639
Speaker 7: kind of just pick the best one.

2108
01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:29,479
Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing, man.

2109
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:31,960
Speaker 4: It's great advice and I hate that it's great advice

2110
01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:36,519
Speaker 4: because the heisman has become too dependent on team's success.

2111
01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:38,760
Speaker 3: I know that should be an element of it.

2112
01:48:39,320 --> 01:48:42,840
Speaker 4: But if there's a dude who goes off for a

2113
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:44,280
Speaker 4: non playoff team.

2114
01:48:44,200 --> 01:48:46,439
Speaker 3: Ann Jackson to the last one, I think a.

2115
01:48:46,439 --> 01:48:51,360
Speaker 4: Non conference championship team, right, like not even getting to

2116
01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:55,519
Speaker 4: your conference championship game. If you go ballistic, you should

2117
01:48:55,520 --> 01:48:57,800
Speaker 4: be right in the thick of that thing. But oftentimes,

2118
01:48:57,800 --> 01:49:00,439
Speaker 4: to Jared's point, you're not. It's it's un fortunate, but

2119
01:49:00,520 --> 01:49:02,519
Speaker 4: that's the way it typically goes, Hey, the way it

2120
01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:06,760
Speaker 4: typically goes with Isaac Lowencron. You get some charisma, you

2121
01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:09,760
Speaker 4: get some energy, you get some wits, and you get

2122
01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:13,200
Speaker 4: some information all wrapped up and a nice bundle with

2123
01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:14,120
Speaker 4: the smile on Tom.

2124
01:49:14,280 --> 01:49:16,479
Speaker 3: That's what you get. I Low with the latest here.

2125
01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:20,800
Speaker 9: We're also going to get some time travel. Gonna take you,

2126
01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:27,800
Speaker 9: fellas back to May seventeenth, twenty twenty one. On that date,

2127
01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:33,479
Speaker 9: over two years ago, a resident of Toronto named Matt

2128
01:49:34,040 --> 01:49:38,559
Speaker 9: English tweeted the following, and I quote every time I

2129
01:49:38,600 --> 01:49:42,320
Speaker 9: see an angel's highlight, it's like Mike Trout hit three

2130
01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:45,479
Speaker 9: home runs and raised his average to five twenty eight,

2131
01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:49,639
Speaker 9: while show Hey O'tani did something that hasn't been done

2132
01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:54,959
Speaker 9: since Tungsten arm Odoyle of the nineteen twenty one Akron

2133
01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:58,040
Speaker 9: Groomsman as the Tigers. If Hey of the Angels eight

2134
01:49:58,040 --> 01:50:01,360
Speaker 9: to three, unquote, that's a.

2135
01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:03,320
Speaker 10: Famous tweet, man's famous.

2136
01:50:03,760 --> 01:50:05,519
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's a famous X now, I

2137
01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:06,400
Speaker 4: don't know how that worked.

2138
01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:08,800
Speaker 10: I'm still gonna call it a Yeah, what's it gonna do?

2139
01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:10,639
Speaker 10: Block me? You apparently can't do that anymore.

2140
01:50:10,640 --> 01:50:11,839
Speaker 3: I can't do that either anymore.

2141
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:17,479
Speaker 9: Well, last night Fellas was a Tungsten arm Odoyle game

2142
01:50:17,920 --> 01:50:22,160
Speaker 9: once again, because the Tampa Bay Rays defeated the Angels

2143
01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:26,120
Speaker 9: in Anaheim and ten innings, nine to six, despite the

2144
01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:30,360
Speaker 9: Angels turning their first triple play in twenty six years,

2145
01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:34,719
Speaker 9: and show Hey O'tani hitting a grand slam his forty

2146
01:50:34,760 --> 01:50:38,720
Speaker 9: third home run of the season, and Tungsten arm Odoyle

2147
01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:42,160
Speaker 9: once again lives. Meanwhile, the Miami Marlins hit five home

2148
01:50:42,240 --> 01:50:44,320
Speaker 9: runs and an eleven to three win over the Dodgers

2149
01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:47,519
Speaker 9: in LA, breaking their eleven game wedding streak. The San

2150
01:50:47,560 --> 01:50:50,599
Speaker 9: Diego Padres over the Arizona Diamondbacks four, and I think

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Speaker 9: is the Padres scored four in the bottom of the eighth,

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Speaker 9: including a two run home run by Fernando Tatist Junior,

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Speaker 9: whose twentieth of the season. NFL preseason Friday Night, Atlanta's

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01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:02,920
Speaker 9: Young Wayku kicked the game tying forty five yard field

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01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:05,040
Speaker 9: goal with two seconds to play, as the Falcons and

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01:51:05,120 --> 01:51:09,400
Speaker 9: Cincinnati Bengals finished under thirteen to thirteen tie. Falcons quarterback

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01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:12,800
Speaker 9: Desmond Ritter completed seven of nine for eighty yards. He

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01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:15,839
Speaker 9: had an interception that was off a deflected pass. Giants

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01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:19,200
Speaker 9: over the Carolina Panthers twenty one to nineteen. Bryce Young

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01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:22,000
Speaker 9: completed three of six for thirty five yards. Giants starter

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Speaker 9: Daniel Jones completed eight of nine for sixty nine yards

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Speaker 9: and a touchdown. Fellows, I'm gonna go catch up on

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Speaker 9: my nineteen twenty one Akron groomsman statistics back to you.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, let me let us know how that goes.

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Speaker 3: I low, not finding much to be honest, good luck,

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Speaker 3: fair enough.

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Speaker 4: It is Fox Sports Radios comd Down to Kickoff presented

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Speaker 4: by Bett MGM. You know what's wild with the Carolina

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01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:53,360
Speaker 4: Panthers last night against the Giants, and Ilo just brought

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Speaker 4: that up at the tail end of his update.

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Speaker 3: If you think about Bryce.

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01:51:56,880 --> 01:52:01,440
Speaker 4: Young, who took a few hits, took a few hits undersized.

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01:52:01,560 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 4: We've talked about the frame, will durability be a question?

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Speaker 4: You know what is super lame for any NFL team

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01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:14,040
Speaker 4: is when they think they've addressed a position and now

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01:52:14,040 --> 01:52:16,880
Speaker 4: they're uncertain if they have or not. Because if you

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Speaker 4: look at Ikeam Ikwanu, he was the sixth overall pick

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Speaker 4: last year, and Ikey he allowed a couple of hits

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Speaker 4: on Bryce Young right there. And now make sure you

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Speaker 4: understand what I'm saying. Just because kpon Thibodeau is giving

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01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:35,639
Speaker 4: him the business doesn't mean that Ikwanu is a complete bust.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying he is, but I'm just saying you

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Speaker 4: tend to think, hey, we took our left tackle sixth overall. Boom,

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Speaker 4: We got that taken care of, you know, and all

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01:52:45,439 --> 01:52:47,479
Speaker 4: of a sudden, there are teams that circle back and

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01:52:47,479 --> 01:52:50,599
Speaker 4: they say, oh gosh, we didn't exactly check that box,

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01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:54,280
Speaker 4: as it turns out, when we used a premium pick

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Speaker 4: at this non quarterback spot. And I'm curious if Carolina,

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01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:02,840
Speaker 4: if they have their left tackle of the future. Wets

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01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:06,280
Speaker 4: talk about franchise quarterbacks. You can have franchise players at

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Speaker 4: other positions too. Left tackle is one of them. We

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Speaker 4: just saw Joe Thomas go into the Hall of Fame.

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01:53:11,120 --> 01:53:14,480
Speaker 4: But if you have something that's closer to the opposite,

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01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:18,920
Speaker 4: you're screwed right there, especially when you have an undersized quarterback.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you better hope he figures it out quick, because

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01:53:22,520 --> 01:53:25,479
Speaker 6: that is exactly what you're picking when you're picking in

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01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:27,120
Speaker 6: the top ten of the NFL draft.

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Speaker 5: Is an immediate fix.

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Speaker 6: Is somebody who is going to replace anybody at that

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01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:38,240
Speaker 6: position in the arguably top twenty of the NFL and

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Speaker 6: perform just as good or better. That's the type of

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Speaker 6: player you're drafting in the top ten, or hopefully drafting

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01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:45,639
Speaker 6: in the top ten.

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01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:48,799
Speaker 5: Otherwise, trade down, trade down.

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01:53:49,040 --> 01:53:50,960
Speaker 6: Because there is no reason to be selecting in the

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01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:53,800
Speaker 6: top ten if you don't have firm belief that the

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01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:57,839
Speaker 6: player you're taking is going to be a franchise shifting player,

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01:53:58,200 --> 01:54:01,320
Speaker 6: whether he plays edge, or he plays quarterback, or he

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Speaker 6: plays running back, or he plays left tackle, you better

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Speaker 6: be certain. So yeah, yeah, in Carolina right now, that

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01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:11,280
Speaker 6: offensive line coach is getting called into a lot of

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01:54:11,320 --> 01:54:14,280
Speaker 6: meetings with the brass and they're saying, hey, where we're

2213
01:54:14,439 --> 01:54:17,360
Speaker 6: Where are we at? Because I mean clock's ticking, Bud.

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01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:20,680
Speaker 6: We need to make sure that this guy protects the

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01:54:20,720 --> 01:54:24,320
Speaker 6: blind side because Young's back there a getting fired on

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01:54:24,360 --> 01:54:27,679
Speaker 6: in the preseason and and we're counting on him too

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Speaker 6: this upcoming year.

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Speaker 5: So Carolina's got.

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01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:35,360
Speaker 6: Some work to do, and and overall across the NFL.

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01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:38,520
Speaker 6: I don't want to specifically point out Carolina because this

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01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:41,600
Speaker 6: is gonna happen with a lot of teams because it's

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01:54:41,640 --> 01:54:46,800
Speaker 6: hard to select playmakers, game game changers, franchise shifting players.

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Speaker 5: It's difficult.

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01:54:47,840 --> 01:54:51,040
Speaker 6: And so the hit rate is something hovering around forty

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01:54:51,080 --> 01:54:53,520
Speaker 6: five percent in the first round. I mean, so that

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01:54:53,640 --> 01:54:56,640
Speaker 6: means that the odds are stacked against you, that fifty

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Speaker 6: five percent of these players taking in the first round

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01:54:59,560 --> 01:55:03,240
Speaker 6: aren't go to be that And so I mean we're

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Speaker 6: getting down to the nitty gritty here in training camp time,

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Speaker 6: in preseason.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a long year for Bryce Young. Guys.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that doesn't mean it's gonna be a long career

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01:55:11,600 --> 01:55:16,040
Speaker 7: for Bryce Young, but this season will be very difficult

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01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:20,040
Speaker 7: for him. And the numbers on IK last year were

2235
01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:23,040
Speaker 7: not good. I mean, he's I'm looking at the Pro

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01:55:23,080 --> 01:55:27,120
Speaker 7: Football Focus blocking grades, he's forty second out of one

2237
01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:32,440
Speaker 7: hundred and something tackles on Pro Football Focus's pass blocking

2238
01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:36,680
Speaker 7: grade list. So he's already let's call him average mid

2239
01:55:36,760 --> 01:55:40,320
Speaker 7: level in terms of the grades last year, and now

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Speaker 7: you're supposed to take a step forward and you got

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Speaker 7: a rookie quarterback, and it's gonna be a tough year.

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01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:48,120
Speaker 7: I think Frank Reich will help. I think the way

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01:55:48,160 --> 01:55:52,240
Speaker 7: that that offense is designed to get Bryce Young into

2244
01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:56,480
Speaker 7: a quick decision will help, because from all accounts, he's

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Speaker 7: the quickest and smartest decision maker that we've seen come

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01:55:59,440 --> 01:56:01,120
Speaker 7: through the college foot ball ranks in the last i

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01:56:01,160 --> 01:56:04,000
Speaker 7: don't know, one hundred years since Tungsten Armor the third

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01:56:04,040 --> 01:56:08,480
Speaker 7: maybe was roaming the diamond in the baseball world. But

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Speaker 7: it's going to be a very long year for him

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Speaker 7: because physically, I think it's fair to say that he's

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01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:15,480
Speaker 7: not a first round or you know, a number one pick.

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01:56:15,560 --> 01:56:18,360
Speaker 7: Like physically, I think he's probably more like a third

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01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:21,920
Speaker 7: or fourth developmental kind of prospect. But mentally is where

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01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:26,080
Speaker 7: he makes just leaps and bounds better decisions than every

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Speaker 7: other quarterback I think in his class, and that's why

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Speaker 7: he was drafted first overall, but I think physically it's

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01:56:30,720 --> 01:56:32,320
Speaker 7: fair to say he's going to have a really tough year.

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01:56:33,360 --> 01:56:35,200
Speaker 4: So it's going to be a long year for Bryce Young.

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01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:37,760
Speaker 4: But Anthony Richardson with Lin it's going.

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Speaker 3: To be a good year. It's going to a long

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Speaker 3: year for him to So let me rephrase that.

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Speaker 7: I don't think there's a rookie quarterback in this class

2263
01:56:44,360 --> 01:56:46,400
Speaker 7: that's gonna all of a sudden be like Wow, Man,

2264
01:56:46,800 --> 01:56:49,040
Speaker 7: that's the guy right away out of the gate, hit

2265
01:56:49,120 --> 01:56:52,120
Speaker 7: the hit the ground running. This is a very difficult

2266
01:56:52,400 --> 01:56:55,000
Speaker 7: quarterback class because I think the teams they're going to

2267
01:56:55,080 --> 01:56:57,560
Speaker 7: are all very flawed, very flawed.

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Speaker 4: Okay, betting before betting is on the way, Okay, we

2269
01:57:03,680 --> 01:57:07,600
Speaker 4: gotta have the stakes of this Sam Howel v Anthony

2270
01:57:07,680 --> 01:57:11,720
Speaker 4: Richardson twenty twenty three Showdown. So we'll come up at

2271
01:57:11,720 --> 01:57:13,800
Speaker 4: the stakes and then we'll get you our picks of

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Speaker 4: the day. Right around the corner, We've got rich Orenberger,

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Speaker 4: Penn State All American, Jared Smith FSR betting analyst, I'm

2274
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Speaker 4: Brian no gambling betting picks.

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Speaker 3: We got all of it right around the corner.

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Speaker 4: It is Fox Sports Radios count Down to Kickoff. We're

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Speaker 4: Tremendous job by Bo Benson, our trusted producer, Iowa Sam

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Speaker 4: technical producer extraordinary of course, Isaac Low and Cron on

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01:58:01,280 --> 01:58:07,960
Speaker 4: the updates, Top of the Hour, Up on game, LaVar Arrington, TJ. Hushman, Zada, Plaxico, Burus.

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01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:11,160
Speaker 4: You're in great hands as we march closer and closer

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01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:14,080
Speaker 4: to the football season, that is for sure.

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01:58:14,520 --> 01:58:15,520
Speaker 3: Let's dive into this.

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01:58:19,360 --> 01:58:20,240
Speaker 1: Rapid fire.

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01:58:21,320 --> 01:58:23,120
Speaker 3: All right, we wait to have a pick for you today.

2291
01:58:23,200 --> 01:58:24,800
Speaker 3: Jared will start with you. What do you have your

2292
01:58:24,800 --> 01:58:25,160
Speaker 3: eyes on?

2293
01:58:25,720 --> 01:58:29,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, not gonna go crazy here with any football. This

2294
01:58:29,560 --> 01:58:30,920
Speaker 7: will be the last week I'll give you guys a

2295
01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:34,440
Speaker 7: baseball pick, but I will go no run first inning.

2296
01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:38,600
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay LAA. Remember they're playing double headers all on

2297
01:58:38,640 --> 01:58:40,720
Speaker 3: the West coast today because the hurricane. So this is

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01:58:40,760 --> 01:58:42,640
Speaker 3: the first game of the double header. It starts in

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01:58:42,720 --> 01:58:43,680
Speaker 3: about two hours.

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01:58:44,440 --> 01:58:48,440
Speaker 7: Raise Angels, Glass now still sat no run first inning

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01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:49,240
Speaker 7: to start today.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I'm up next, and I'm gonna get myself a

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01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:55,400
Speaker 6: little bit ready for rapid fire during the regular season.

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01:58:55,440 --> 01:58:59,960
Speaker 6: So we go three straight, real quick, all totals, all unders.

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01:59:00,400 --> 01:59:03,160
Speaker 6: First up, Steelers hosting the Bills. The number is forty

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01:59:03,160 --> 01:59:08,880
Speaker 6: two and a half under. Next Dolphins, Texans total thirty

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01:59:08,920 --> 01:59:13,080
Speaker 6: eight and a half under. Lastly, Titans play the Vikings

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01:59:13,080 --> 01:59:15,520
Speaker 6: in Minnesota thirty eight and a half as well under.

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Speaker 5: Let's go.

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01:59:16,920 --> 01:59:20,600
Speaker 3: Wow, Lauren, your mid season form already. I like that.

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01:59:20,800 --> 01:59:21,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks guys.

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01:59:22,200 --> 01:59:25,680
Speaker 4: Okay, this might be the last baseball week now that

2313
01:59:25,720 --> 01:59:27,800
Speaker 4: we're so close to the football season.

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01:59:27,840 --> 01:59:28,640
Speaker 3: I'm loving that.

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01:59:29,520 --> 01:59:31,880
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say it's a stinky line. The Braves have

2316
01:59:31,920 --> 01:59:37,360
Speaker 4: been tremendous, but you know they're only minus one twenty favorites.

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01:59:37,400 --> 01:59:37,600
Speaker 5: Here.

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01:59:37,800 --> 01:59:40,240
Speaker 4: We got Logan web on the mound for the Giants.

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01:59:40,480 --> 01:59:43,520
Speaker 4: That is a loaded Braves lineup. I'm living dangerously. I'm

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01:59:43,520 --> 01:59:46,600
Speaker 4: going Giants outright today. Minus one on two is what

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Speaker 4: I have my eye on.

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01:59:47,720 --> 01:59:51,880
Speaker 3: Let's get into this next.

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01:59:51,920 --> 01:59:54,640
Speaker 1: This is the best play of the days.

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Speaker 3: All right, Jared, what are you thinking here?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 7: Well, this is our first so this is like our

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Speaker 7: preseason with these picks and these preseason games and the

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Speaker 7: baseball picks, like this is the appetizer. We will officially

2329
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Speaker 7: start keeping track of all of our football picks, our

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Speaker 7: regular season football picks, when the regular season starts next week.

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Speaker 7: So don't take this with too much champion this because

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Speaker 7: let's be honest, it's the preseason. I have no idea

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Speaker 7: who's going to show up, but I think the Jets

2334
02:00:24,120 --> 02:00:27,840
Speaker 7: are very motivated to win in the preseason based on

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Speaker 7: the two games that I've seen so far, and they

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Speaker 7: face the Bucks tonight, and I just I don't really

2337
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Speaker 7: love anything happening with Tampa Bay this offseason and now

2338
02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:39,200
Speaker 7: Baker Mayfield dealing with this, you know, financial fraud story

2339
02:00:39,200 --> 02:00:42,000
Speaker 7: that Isaac told us about during the updates. So I'm

2340
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Speaker 7: taking the Jets laying three and a half points tonight

2341
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Speaker 7: against the Bucks at home.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how much we're gonna see, if at all,

2343
02:00:49,880 --> 02:00:52,240
Speaker 3: of Aaron Rodgers. I don't care. Zach Wilson's looked okay,

2344
02:00:52,360 --> 02:00:53,640
Speaker 3: But again, don't.

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Speaker 5: Go crazy here. It's the preseason, but.

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Speaker 3: I like the Jets side.

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02:00:56,720 --> 02:01:00,160
Speaker 4: Okay, So on the Fox Sports Radio twitter feed, I've

2348
02:01:00,200 --> 02:01:03,040
Speaker 4: been quoted saying Sam Howell is gonna be better. It's

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Speaker 4: gonna do better than Anthony Richardson. Not in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 4: because some of my rate it and they like, what

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02:01:09,720 --> 02:01:12,720
Speaker 4: is that specifically this year? So here's the bet I

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Speaker 4: have proposed for you guys, minimum eight starts passer rating.

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Speaker 3: I say howls is better. Five hundred bucks apiece.

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Speaker 6: You in whoa, whoa whoa passer ratings?

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Speaker 3: No for this pheno oh, We'll circle back next week