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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio Final Hour. In this Friday, Yes, it is

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Speaker 1: a meat Friday, and that means what's on the trigger grills. Well,

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Speaker 1: in case you're living vicariously through us corn beef sliders,

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Speaker 1: Shepherd's Pie, Bangers in Mash. Explain what Shepherd's Pie is

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Speaker 1: and what Bangers in Mash is, Pauline.

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Speaker 2: Banger's in Mash like a grilled sausage, nice little gravy, onion, gravy,

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Speaker 2: mashed potatoes, that standard. Maybe some chives and so forth,

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Speaker 2: but that's pretty standard, great cold weather meal.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And Shepherd's found out.

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Speaker 2: An expert on I know it's mixed meat and onions

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Speaker 2: and carrots and in a puff pastry, but I don't

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Speaker 2: know what else is in it.

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Speaker 3: Think real Shepherd's Pie is made with lamb. It's like

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Speaker 3: minced meat, you know, potatoes. That kind of thing is

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Speaker 3: like savory.

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Speaker 1: It's ten days until we decide we set sail for

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Speaker 1: doubling because we're sailing. Yeah, actually we're flying the Fundo

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Speaker 1: to sell. I would try that. Yeah, we'd need a

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Speaker 1: couple more days, I think to get over there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but we could do it like our ancestry. We could

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Speaker 1: go down to Ellis Island and then we could get

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Speaker 1: on a boat and then we could go back to

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Speaker 1: use County Cork. Yeah, that's why I think so many

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Speaker 1: Irish were listed as from being from County Cork, but

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Speaker 1: that's where they departed from. Oh that makes sense, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think so. I haven't been to Ellis Island, but

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Speaker 1: I promised my wife that I would go this summer,

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Speaker 1: and summer is running out. I gotta get there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just realizing yes I did, Like, wait a minute, we're

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Speaker 1: on vacation and then we go to Dublin and then

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Speaker 1: maybe then the Premier League is back Saturday on NBC,

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Speaker 1: of last season, Newcastle looks to continue their great form

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Speaker 1: against Aston Villa twelve thirty Eastern on NBC and Peacock Right.

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Speaker 1: Phone calls coming up, we'll talk some gambling. They film

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Speaker 1: mickels and book bombshell that he bet upwards reportedly of

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Speaker 1: a billion dollars and lost one hundred million. Okay, if

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Speaker 1: you say it's ten to one like he did lose,

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Speaker 1: he didn't win. He lost the vig So if you

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Speaker 1: bet and you lose, and then you lose ten percent

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Speaker 1: of what you bet. So was Phil right forty eight

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Speaker 1: percent of the time about that if you did the

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Speaker 1: math forty nine percent of the time. Yeah, but man,

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Speaker 1: there are times when he was betting a lot and

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Speaker 1: and you know upwards of two hundred twenty thousand dollars,

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Speaker 1: now that might have been two hundred thousand, and then

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Speaker 1: you lose the ten percent. It's to twenty. But we'll

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Speaker 1: talk to somebody who is covering this. The sports world

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Speaker 1: colliding with the gambling world. What could go wrong? We

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Also very proud of the Prince family picnic T shirt.

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Speaker 3: That's a real winner.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But Marvin keep he kept saying, you know, let's

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Speaker 1: have a cookout at the neighborhood with your grandmother, and

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Speaker 1: then we didn't have one, So we made up T

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Speaker 1: shirts for a cookout that we're not having.

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Speaker 5: Well, we're having one here every Friday.

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Speaker 1: It's not the same. I want to meet your family.

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Speaker 1: I want them to meet me.

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Speaker 5: You want to meet my family?

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 5: I think they want to meet you.

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Speaker 1: I want to meet your mom. I want to meet Bridget.

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Speaker 5: Hey you know what, she might come a Bridget come

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Speaker 5: to Milford.

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Speaker 1: Well, no, no, no, I want to I want a picnic.

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Speaker 1: And then if there's like a slow jam that goes on,

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Speaker 1: maybe I ask your mom to dance.

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Speaker 6: See but you keep saying see my family, it'd be like, oh,

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Speaker 6: turn up that Kirk Franklin. Oh my grimace, Kirk frank

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Speaker 6: is a little bit too jazzy for my taste. That's

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Speaker 6: the type of thing. And we're we're in a cul

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Speaker 6: de sac and we live near my parents live near Todd.

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Speaker 1: But that's okay, is it? Yeah? Okay, I mean I'm

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Speaker 1: ready for Well he's not invited, Yes, yes, thanks.

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Speaker 3: I just want to point out Kirk Franklin headlining the

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Speaker 3: same venue Todd just headlined in September in bridge.

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Speaker 1: Oh, in Bridgemot.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, that would be their hard for healthcare ampithe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you to thank you to so in the

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Speaker 2: legends that have played there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Amongst the legends that have played Kirk Franklin and Todd.

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Speaker 2: Fret Foo Fighters.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I can't believe we're still standing after the last a.

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Speaker 1: Couple of phone calls in here. By the way, sports

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Speaker 1: history on this day. We'd normally wait a little while

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Speaker 1: for the sports history. But Pauli said, and what two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eight Beijing Olympics.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the four by one hundred men swimming final, this

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Speaker 2: is prime Michael Phelps, all right, France was talking some

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Speaker 2: smack about our team. Jason Lezak had the anchor leg

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Speaker 2: Dan Hicks and Rowdy Gaines on the call, and they

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Speaker 2: won by like a millimeter. It was one of the

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Speaker 2: all time great Olympic moments. It was this day in history.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Dan picks his Olympic calls with swimming

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Speaker 1: deserves his sports hemming him and Rowdy gains they do.

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Speaker 1: And I don't even know if he gets nominated. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, primarily a golf announcer, but when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the Olympics and you have a swimming event, he

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Speaker 1: is great. And you know he puts you in the

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Speaker 1: building in the moment. Very good at ramping, those things

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Speaker 1: up with Michael Phelps. But also I was wondering you

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Speaker 1: could have Usain Bolt's Olympic career or Michael phelps Olympic career.

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Speaker 1: To me, no brainer. All right, let's go around the

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Speaker 1: room then I'll tell you whose career I would take time.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go Michael Phelps.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well you are a Patriot, you are an American?

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Speaker 1: Uh Cein O'Connor, Oh man, we'll see you.

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Speaker 3: Sain Bolt has like so much more sizzle or swagger

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Speaker 3: to his career. Michael Phelps has won an extraordinary number

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Speaker 3: of metals. Yeah, what's he won? Like twenty eight? I

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Speaker 3: think it's twenty eight, Yeah, something like that. I think

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Speaker 3: he's saying Bolt has eight.

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Speaker 1: Now we're not talking about endorsements money you made. I'm

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Speaker 1: just talking about the accomplishments of what you did in

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Speaker 3: Did Michael Phelps go into his last Olympics being sort

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Speaker 3: of like, let's see if we can squeeze one more

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Speaker 3: Going into the last Olympics, he was seen as a

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Speaker 1: I don't think he was in as many events, and

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Speaker 1: I don't think it was oh my gosh, can he

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Speaker 1: like it'd be nice if he got a couple of

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Speaker 1: gold medals, like anybody would take one gold medal. With Phelps,

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Speaker 1: gold medals. But he still did well though, Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: who you top? I think I'm going to take Michael Felps,

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Speaker 1: all right, Marvin, I.

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Speaker 6: Would love to be the world's fastest man, so I'll

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Speaker 6: go Usaint Bolt Paulie going.

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Speaker 2: Back to Felps real quick. In Rio twenty sixteen, he

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Speaker 2: got five gold, one silver. His last letters.

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Speaker 1: Ah, you know, I thought that much of Dan Hicks

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Speaker 1: and Rowdy Gaines. On a day off that I had

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Speaker 1: I went over and I just wanted to sit behind

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Speaker 1: them in the auditorium or naditorium, I guess you would

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Speaker 1: call it, but I just wanted to I wanted to

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Speaker 1: watch them watch Michael films. That's how much I thought

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Speaker 1: of what they did. Yes, Pauline, this is as tough

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Speaker 1: as the question as there is.

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Speaker 2: I think Phelps's place in history, even one hundred years

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of swimming events there. Katie Ladecci type

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Speaker 2: could break his record. I would like to be able

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Speaker 2: at some point in my life saying I'm the fastest

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Speaker 2: person to ever walk the earth and no one could

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Speaker 2: say anything back to me. And Bolt may be that

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Speaker 2: for a couple more decades. It's not over yet for him.

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Speaker 2: I want to be Usain Bolt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I knew too. Usain Bolt did it one hundred,

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Speaker 1: two hundred, and then also want to relay and then

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Speaker 1: did it again two hundred. Stay the fastest man in

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Speaker 1: the world for you know, a decade, and he was

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Speaker 1: able to do that, and it wasn't like you were like,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, he barely won. He was winning where

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Speaker 1: he could actually look back, you know, in his rear

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Speaker 1: But this is now fourteen years nine he set the record,

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Speaker 1: so he's held this for fourteen years. That doesn't happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Pauling and the greatest name ever put to an athlete.

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Speaker 2: It's like it was just yeah, it's destiny. Joe Montana

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Speaker 2: is a great quarterback. Usain Bolt is the greatest sprinter

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Speaker 2: of all time. Yeah, you couldn't write if you did

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Speaker 2: a script about that in the guy's name you make, Well,

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Speaker 2: that's that's hokey.

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Speaker 1: But what is it? I don't know what that definition

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Speaker 1: is when you live up or you embodied your name,

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Speaker 1: like David Stern, he was David Stern. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: See I think Michael Phelps still holds seven world records.

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Speaker 1: Wow, okay, but he was in so many more events.

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Speaker 1: Usain Bolt was in two.

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Speaker 3: But isn't it more impressive to be in more events

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Speaker 3: and be able to dominate? I mean, if if you

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Speaker 3: sain Bolt, Michael Phelps, if he was basically to try

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Speaker 3: to like apples to apples, it with you, sain Bolt.

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Speaker 3: Michael Phelps only did the one hundred meter butterfly and

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Speaker 3: the two hundred meter butterfly and dominated those, and then

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Speaker 3: is now the greatest.

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Speaker 1: No, but everybody runs, not everybody does the butterfly. Usain

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Speaker 1: Bolt does what has been done since man stepped on

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Speaker 1: this earth, and he does it faster than anybody. Not

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Speaker 1: everybody knows how to do the butterfly with Michael Phelps

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Speaker 1: as great as he was, you Sain Bolt. This is

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Speaker 1: what he does and he's done it better than anybody

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Speaker 1: for fourteen years. Yeh see.

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Speaker 2: I feel like.

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Speaker 3: Not that I'm underappreciating you say, Bolt, but being able

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Speaker 3: to do it in multiple disciplines, to me, should be appreciated.

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Speaker 1: Like Michael Phelps can.

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Speaker 3: He could do different say, he could do different distances

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Speaker 3: and he can still dominate.

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Speaker 5: All of them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but what about if there was an eighty meter dash,

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Speaker 1: a one hundred and twenty meter dash, and then Yusain

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Speaker 1: Bolt would be able to win gold medals in those

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Speaker 1: as well, maybe, because that's same thing with Michael Phelps.

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Speaker 1: The greatest achievement I think, well, at least one of

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Speaker 1: them Eric Heiden. Eric Heiden was the fastest speed skater

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Speaker 1: and he also won the distance speed skating like that

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Speaker 1: doesn't happen in that sport, but he was the fastest

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Speaker 1: and then he had, you know, the ability to do

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Speaker 1: basically a marathon and win a gold medal. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how many gold medals he won, the he win

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Speaker 1: like four gold medals. Yeah, at least, and I think

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Speaker 1: Something I I thought I was saying, please drink responsibly,

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Speaker 1: Oh man, just telling you paybacks are.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing this for scenes better because when so good,

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Speaker 1: Do you hear me?

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Speaker 1: I am the danger.

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Speaker 1: Tom in North Carolina. Tom, good morning. What can I

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Speaker 7: I just wanted to know. I just want to know

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Speaker 7: during that time of the Nile from Pete Rose, Well,

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Speaker 1: We've been talking a little bit about Phil Mickelson, this

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Speaker 8: I think there's a lot of fact in there. Billy

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Speaker 1: In the US, but he could afford it correct. Correct.

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Speaker 8: Well, Walters believes that Nicholson could have testified in his

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Speaker 8: on that event, including on themselves. And the reason for

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Speaker 8: that is because let's say an athlete bets on them

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Speaker 8: to win a golf tournament, bets five hundred thousand dollars,

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Speaker 8: and then the next tournament he doesn't bet well as

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Speaker 8: he is he trying just as hard this time, or

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Speaker 8: maybe the intensity isn't there so he's not trying as harn't.

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Speaker 8: So they think it just kind of impacts the integrity

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Speaker 8: a little bit, just the efforts, and it adds kind

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Speaker 8: of a question mark around everything. In my opinion, it

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Speaker 8: just kind of opens up a can of worms that's

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Speaker 8: unnecessary and it's a net negative on this if you

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Speaker 8: were to allow athletes to bet on vents that they

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Speaker 8: involved in.

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Speaker 1: David Purdham, ESPN Sports Betting Industry reporter, it feels like

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Speaker 1: we're headed towards something really bad here. They're just so

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Speaker 1: it's hard not to bet. It's there, it's constant, and

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Speaker 1: you're seeing this with Iowa and Iowa State athletes involved

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Speaker 1: in this. Where are we headed, like, how do we

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Speaker 1: how do we police this to ensure that you don't

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Speaker 1: have something that is going to be nefarious.

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Speaker 8: Well, the theory behind the legalization and the regulation is

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Speaker 8: that what we're trying to do. We have more visibility

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Speaker 8: into the betting market right now than we ever had.

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Speaker 8: We don't know in the past if all these transactions

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Speaker 8: were happening because it was taking place in an underground bookmaker,

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Speaker 8: an underground book maker, or an offshore sports book and

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Speaker 8: they don't open up their books to show you, hey,

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Speaker 8: this guy's betting he shouldn't be. We're now we're in

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Speaker 8: this environment of regulation where more people are watching. They

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Speaker 8: can see these anomalies and we're catching people. There's an

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Speaker 8: academic theory that I kind of like to resign a

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Speaker 8: little bit. It's about adaption, and anytime illicit activity like

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Speaker 8: betting is brought into a regulated environment, society struggles at

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Speaker 8: the beginning, Okay, what can I do? What can I

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Speaker 8: not do? What can I get away with? What's going

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Speaker 8: to get me in trouble? Eventually they adapt, right, So

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Speaker 8: it takes about five ten years they start to learn.

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Speaker 8: We start seeing all these cases people made it examples of,

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Speaker 8: and society will adapt. So I hope we're kind of

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Speaker 8: in that adaption. But you're right, things are not going

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Speaker 8: well right now. We're seeing way too many kids risk

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Speaker 8: their playing eligibility by betting on games they're involved in.

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Speaker 1: Which sport or sports are most vulnerable?

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Speaker 8: College basketball that's always been the one that has been

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Speaker 8: a target for point shaving. You can control a college

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Speaker 8: basketball game by just getting one or two players compared

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Speaker 8: to that have more control compared to a football game.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you, then, David, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: pay I need you to fix a game. Okay, how

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Speaker 1: do you go about fixing that game?

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Speaker 8: Well, you'd want you spread the money out among several

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Speaker 8: sports books around the nation. Probably would like to do

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Speaker 8: it in one of the offshore sports books where you

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Speaker 8: could protect your identity, or with a local book maker.

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Speaker 1: But how do I find the players who will be complicit.

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Speaker 8: Well, you go to a college and let's say, hey,

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Speaker 8: I know you were betting on one of these sites.

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Speaker 8: I don't want to get you in trouble, but maybe

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Speaker 8: we can work out some.

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Speaker 1: Sort of deal.

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Speaker 8: You know, you shave some points in this game, you

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Speaker 8: miss a couple of free throws here or there, and hey,

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Speaker 8: we'll keep it between ourselves. You know, this happened in

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Speaker 8: the GMA Ce Bowl back in the mid two thousands

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Speaker 8: with a Toledo running back. He eventually admitted in court

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Speaker 8: that he fumbled football intentionally during that game for five

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Speaker 8: hundred dollars. I mean five hundred dollars. You're a college kid.

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Speaker 8: That's a lot of money. That takes your kids up,

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Speaker 8: your girlfriend up for a date.

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Speaker 1: Well, and that's the thing you got to get to

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Speaker 1: the most vulnerable. And that's what I always worry about

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Speaker 1: with this. But you know, Vegas does a great job

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Speaker 1: policing the lines when you see some you know, you

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Speaker 1: had the Alabama baseball situation where how you think that's

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Speaker 1: not going to, you know, raise red flags. And I'm

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Speaker 1: sure these i wan Iowa State kids who are betting

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Speaker 1: probably thinking, oh, we're at Iowa and Iowa State. They

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Speaker 1: got other things to worry about. You know, these are

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Speaker 1: small bets here, and then you find out that there's

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Speaker 1: there's a lot more to it, not necessarily the size

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Speaker 1: of the bet. It's that you're betting and that when

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Speaker 1: it comes to they're going to take away your scholarship.

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Speaker 1: It's not hey, you bet fifty dollars. You're betting on

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Speaker 1: your team or against your team, or whatever it might be.

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Speaker 1: It just feels like we're headed down that road somehow somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Can you find a way that NFL players could gamble,

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Speaker 1: but almost the NFL knows it, They would monitor that,

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Speaker 1: they would say this is the only way you can gamble,

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Speaker 1: So there's no gray area, there's no nothing, and you

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Speaker 1: just tell them you gamble this way and we'll let

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Speaker 1: you do that during the season. Is there anything that

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Speaker 1: you see down the road with the NFL players.

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Speaker 8: Certainly not betting on anything related to the NFL. Players

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Speaker 8: are allowed to bet on other sports. They can bet

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Speaker 8: on a baseball game or NBA playoff game or whatever,

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Speaker 8: but they just can't do it while it works. So

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Speaker 8: I don't think you should ever be allowed to bet

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Speaker 8: on something you were involved with. There's too much information

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Speaker 8: that you have access to the other PEP public betters

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Speaker 8: do not. There's just too many themes that again, I

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Speaker 8: just think it's a net negative to allow somebody to

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Speaker 8: bet on an event there involved in.

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Speaker 1: What's your favorite gambling story, whether it's a bad beat

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Speaker 1: or you can leave out names, but.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I went down to the Las Vegas a few

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Speaker 8: years ago during the rodeo, and there's these professional betters

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Speaker 8: that will go around and they dress up as cowboys,

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Speaker 8: look like they're coming out of town, and they go

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Speaker 8: in there and try to dupe the sports books by

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Speaker 8: letting them be a lot of these guys have been

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Speaker 8: cut off by the sports books. They beat them by

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Speaker 8: so much they won't let them bet. And so we

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Speaker 8: drove around, and sure enough, he would go up there

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Speaker 8: in this cowboy hat and the jeans and a big

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Speaker 8: showcase belt buckle, and we would be allowed to place

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Speaker 8: wagers that he would never win.

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Speaker 5: So that's one of my favorites.

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Speaker 1: And we all have a bad beat when I gambled.

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Speaker 1: I tell my audience it was Packers Bears, and I

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Speaker 1: lost on a block field goal that was taken in

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Speaker 1: for a touchdown. Chester Markle is the field goal kicker,

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Speaker 1: and he caught the deflection and ran it in for

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Speaker 1: a touchdown. He was gonna kick field goal. I was

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Speaker 1: going to win my Bookie had the Saints when Tom

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Speaker 1: Dempsey was had the field goal, the longest field goal

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Speaker 1: in NFL history at the time. I kidd everybody has

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Speaker 1: one of those. Yeah. I mean, we do get those

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Speaker 1: where we win one of these bets, but usually it's

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Speaker 1: a bad beat that you seem to it. But hadn't

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Speaker 1: left me. And it's been almost fifty years, so.

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Speaker 8: I certainly remember mine. Two thousand Kentucky Florida College Football,

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Speaker 8: Kentucky's favor CB FLOORID just favored Steve Spurri or Kentucky's

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Speaker 8: covering the game the whole way. I think he was

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Speaker 8: getting plus seven or something. Florida's down to the last

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Speaker 8: drive late in the fourth quarter, up for Kentucky's sugar.

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Speaker 8: They're just gonna kneel down right, Nope, Spurrier goes play

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Speaker 8: action touchdown, covers the spread with like one of the

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Speaker 8: two seconds left or something's crazy.

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Speaker 1: If you ran into Spurrier, would you say a thing

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Speaker 1: to him?

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Speaker 8: Well, he talked about it afterwards the game, saying, well,

577
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Speaker 8: they were blitzing us. They were blitzing us still, so

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Speaker 8: we had to take advantage of that. So yeah, I

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Speaker 8: might bring that up.

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Speaker 1: Good to talk to you, David. Thank you for joining

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Speaker 1: us again. You see that, that's David Purdham, ESPN sports

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Speaker 1: Betting industry reporter. He's going to be busy. You're going

583
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Speaker 1: to have a great career there.

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Speaker 5: Good time.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Hey, I'm thinking about being a sports betting industry insider.

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Speaker 1: Oh who needs that? Now? Everybody does, yes, Pauli.

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Speaker 2: It was less than eight years ago when Roger Goodell

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Speaker 2: did one of those State of the Union things remember

589
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Speaker 2: at the Super Bowl used to do and they asked

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Speaker 2: Hi about sports gambling. He was all against it. He said,

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Speaker 2: not in the near future. Not, This is not what

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Speaker 2: we're built for. We not participate in this. It was

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Speaker 2: the complete opposite of where we are now.

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Speaker 1: Oh I know, wow, Uh Todd, go ahead, Todd's got

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Speaker 1: his uh sports names, betting sports names.

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Speaker 4: Okay, we can do it quick, Okay, I won't mention

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Speaker 4: the ones that you already, No go ahead, Oscar Gamble,

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Speaker 4: Old Pavilion. We could use pavilions too, Chip Carry, Felton, Spencer,

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Speaker 4: Andrew Luck.

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Speaker 2: Hold On Felton, Spencer's not bad felt on the table.

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Speaker 1: We got it.

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Speaker 4: Just let you go, Andrew look black Jack McDowell, Dave Chuck,

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Speaker 4: David over Street, who I believe played in the CFL

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Speaker 4: was a Dolphins running back, David over Street. And if

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Speaker 4: you have the over, you have to have the top,

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Speaker 4: Tom undermod Zach Wheeler like the Roulette wheel, Drew Locke,

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Speaker 4: Jim Hart, Kevin Dyston, Spread McCombs. That's a reach, Bred.

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Speaker 1: McCombs, No, Red McCombs, No Odds, Hollinsworth No, like you

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Speaker 1: don't have to do it.

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Speaker 4: The vander Reel Deal, Holyfield, King, Rice, Deuce, McAllister, the Joker,

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Speaker 4: which could be joke at Jordan Joker. It's the tennis

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Speaker 4: player five card, Charlie Kirkfield, that big Astro's relief pit.

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Speaker 4: I got it, Ian Bookie, Ian Okay, Don Money, Dave Cash,

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Speaker 4: Cameron Dollar, Penny Hardaway.

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Speaker 1: Bookie Rojas No, it's Cookie Rowdy. Gains and losses all right.

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Speaker 4: Early Jimmy Clawson Loss Jr. Let it rider Betty Robinson

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Speaker 4: early nineteen hundreds, Olympian and truck star Betty Robinson. And

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Speaker 4: I threw in viig rames, but he said he's not

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Speaker 4: an athlete.

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Speaker 1: It's vig It's viig of Ving Ray.

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Speaker 4: What's his name?

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Speaker 1: It's Ving. It's vague.

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Speaker 7: Okay.

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Speaker 4: I put viig rames with three question marks.

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Speaker 1: Next, how long did you work on that?

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Speaker 4: About an hour or so? An hour and a.

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Speaker 1: Half, Yeah, Felton Spencer for Paulie Justin in Mississippi. Then

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Speaker 1: we'll take a break. Hi, Justin, what do you have

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Speaker 1: on your mind? Hey? Justin?

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Speaker 9: Sorry?

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Speaker 1: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 8: Yes, sir, first time colers the whole time.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think we're going to have to move on Justin.

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Speaker 1: Bad connection there. Let's take a break. Uh, if you're

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Speaker 1: watching on Peacock, we're gonna head out to the trigger grills.

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Speaker 1: This day in sports history. What we learn by the way,

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Speaker 2: I want to be kind and say five and a half.

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Speaker 1: All right, Todd four and a half. I ain't seat O'Connor.

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Speaker 3: Will they even be able to U.

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Speaker 1: Seven and a half Marvin six? Three?

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's hard to do that.

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Speaker 1: Three. Wow, that's messed up. Oklahoma over under Marvin.

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Speaker 2: Ten and a half, Paulie, I'm gonna drop it down

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Speaker 2: a little now and a half.

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Speaker 1: This according to DraftKings Oregon their final year in the

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Speaker 1: PAC twelve over under Seaton nine and a half, Wisconsin

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Speaker 1: over under Todd eight and a half. Connecticut Marvin, you're

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Speaker 5: For U kon six and a half.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Paul, very optimistic of you. I'm gonna go five

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Speaker 2: and a half.

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Speaker 3: Ton four and a half Seaton Jim Moore era, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna give it a solid seven and a half.

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Speaker 1: Five five.

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Speaker 11: The U.

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Speaker 4: Todd seven and a half. What is going on here?

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Speaker 5: The you as like in Miami?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Oh, they gotta be good again for me to call

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Speaker 5: them the U. Are you?

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's see get a couple of phone calls in here,

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Speaker 1: Ryan and Honolulu. Hi, Ryan, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 11: Dan, I got some Crappensburg State mark headlines for you.

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Speaker 1: Oh. Okay.

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Speaker 11: When Crappensburg State hit a home run, they hit it.

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Speaker 7: Flash Okay, yep.

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Speaker 11: The Crappensburg Toilet Bowl is sponsored by Sharman Ultra Soft,

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Speaker 11: and the players they take they take it one player

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Speaker 11: at a time.

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Speaker 1: Dan. Okay, that's good. Salat salad. That's good that Dan.

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Speaker 11: There's no defense in the Toilet Bowl. The games are free.

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Speaker 1: Flowing, okay.

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Speaker 11: The Bowl games they are a crap shoot okay. Crappensburg

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Speaker 11: State basketball team have some crap shooters.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 11: Speaking of toilet humor, Dan twelve fifteen club has a

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Speaker 11: new episode today. They do talk about me a lot,

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Speaker 11: but they haven't had me on yet for a rebuttal so.

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Speaker 1: Hello, ah, okay, all right, well thank you Ryan. As journalists,

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Speaker 1: they should have him.

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Speaker 4: On one play at a time.

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Speaker 1: Don't take his I'm saying that was good.

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Speaker 4: I'm acknowledging that we liked that one one plio at

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Speaker 1: You were trying to take incredibly, trying to hitch a ride.

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Speaker 6: What Yes, Maartman, the big German just told me we

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Speaker 6: did have Ryan and Hal Honolulu on about a year ago. Okay,

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Speaker 6: we haven't had any repeat guests besides Fritzie.

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Speaker 1: I think Fritzie's on there today the twelve to fifteen podcast.

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Speaker 5: He is going to talk about his new superstar status.

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Speaker 1: No, I think he's going to recap what happened with

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Speaker 1: Darius Rucker.

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Speaker 4: I think probably that'll be some of it.

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Speaker 1: I would think, Yeah, this day in sports history, what

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Speaker 1: do you have?

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Speaker 2: Nineteen twenty one, Bay Ruth hit home run number five

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Speaker 2: hundred nineteen eighty four. One of my favorites. Carl Lewis

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Speaker 2: won his fourth gold medal to eighty four Summer Olympics,

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Speaker 2: and he dominate Dan one of your favorites. The Reds

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Speaker 2: honored Major League legend All Star Hall of Famer Johnny

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Speaker 2: Bench by retiring number five, that's an easy one. In

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four, that's.

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Speaker 5: It, okay.

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Speaker 1: On this date in nineteen nineteen, George Calhoun and Curly

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Speaker 1: Lambeau founded the Green Bay Packers football Club. You know

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Speaker 1: Curly Lambeau. They get named the stadium. What did they

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Speaker 1: give George Calhoun lambeau Field. I don't know if they

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Speaker 1: have anything for George Calhoun.

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Speaker 4: Give them the press boxer list, the George Calhoun.

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Speaker 1: Press box like something.

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Speaker 2: All right, check area, we're checking, yeah.

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Speaker 1: George Calhoun nineteen nineteen. Also, Tug McGraw gave up his

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Speaker 1: fourth Grand Slam of the year on this date. A reliever,

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Speaker 1: Tug McGraw in nineteen seventy nine. That's tough to do.

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Speaker 4: That's like the worst thing that a reliever can do.

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Speaker 4: Give a Grand slamb home run.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to You're welcome. Jim in Florida, Hi, Jim,

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Speaker 1: what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 9: I know what's going on. Years ago, I don't know

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Speaker 9: what it was. Rory Malcolm Roy's dad and his friends

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Speaker 9: put a bet on him to win the British Open

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Speaker 9: or a major before he turned twenty one, and they

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Speaker 9: cashed in big time on that. I mean it had

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Speaker 9: nothing to do with Rory. They were betting on you know,

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Speaker 9: his dad was bet on him to win.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think you could back then place a bet.

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Speaker 1: I think it changed in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Pauling, George Whitney, Calhoun, and Curly Lambo did found

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Speaker 2: the Packers. They worked together for years. Calhoun was a

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Speaker 2: publicity director for the Packers. Did like a tip sheet,

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Speaker 2: all types of different publicity. In nineteen forty seven, he

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Speaker 2: was forced to resign by Curly Lambeau. This was unpopular

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Speaker 2: and permanently damaged Calhoun's relationship with Curly Lambo. Even after

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Speaker 2: leaving the team, Calhoun remained a strong supporter and was

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Speaker 2: on the board of directors until his death. But I

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Speaker 2: don't see anything named after him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Curly Lambeau got lambeau Field, George Calhoun got nothing.

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Speaker 2: Press box might make sense, as Fritzy said, because he

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Speaker 2: did was a publicity guy. We're checking if that's named

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Speaker 2: at all.

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Speaker 1: Uh. We got football coming up tonight? Is there preseason action?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You got Packers, Bengals, Giants, Lions, Dolphins, Falcons, Desmond Ritter,

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Speaker 2: little Desmon Ritter, that Saucy. I think he's be better

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Speaker 2: than expects. Uh, Steelers, Buccaneers, Commanders, Browns, Broncos, Cardinals late night.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 1: I think the Broncos have named Baker Mayfield the starter

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Speaker 1: for Week one. I think the Buccaneers did. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: what did I say?

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Speaker 4: You might have said the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's right.

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Speaker 4: I got excited for a second about that.

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Speaker 2: Baker's It wasn't enthusiastic. They had the depth chart for

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Speaker 2: the Bucks the other day and said, Kyle Trask or

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Speaker 2: Breaker Mayfield leave out the oar.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I've been uh, I've been watching the Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: workout videos like he's got to stop doing he's in

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Speaker 1: the zone. Yeah no, but he's gotta stop. You've got

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Speaker 1: you don't need to do it. Just how about we

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Speaker 1: just disappear just by foot ball. We don't need to

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Speaker 1: do anything. Just play football.

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Speaker 4: Let's see a Week one Raiders at Broncos. Let's who

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Speaker 4: we got everyone? Well, no more than preseason anyway, they

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Speaker 4: host the Raiders week one. Let's go.

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Speaker 1: You got a bet on that game?

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Speaker 4: I'm definitely not. You're not a good feelings about any

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Speaker 4: of that. I hope Sean paying your equals two or

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Speaker 4: three more wins but not buying Super Bowl tickets?

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's wise.

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Speaker 3: Yes, what if, Todd, what if you always bet on

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Speaker 3: the Broncos to lose so that if they win, you're happy,

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Speaker 3: and if they lose you win money.

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Speaker 4: That's a win win, right, there is a win win.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, well they lost, but I got fifty bucks.

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Speaker 4: There are something to be said for that.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you do that? Why don't you bet against

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Speaker 1: the Broncos?

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Speaker 3: Would you rather the Broncos win and you lose money?

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Speaker 3: Or would you rather win money and they lose games?

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Speaker 4: Knowing how obsessed I've been about this team since I

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Speaker 4: was seven years old, unless there was a lot of money,

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Speaker 4: I'd rather have the Broncos win as much as possible.

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Speaker 4: If I lose a few bucks in the process, I

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Speaker 4: can deal with that. I need Denver to win its

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Speaker 4: mood significantly.

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Speaker 1: Let's go around the room.

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Speaker 4: Dismiss it.

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Speaker 1: You're just lamm the plane. Okay, No, yeah, we do.

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Speaker 1: But I got to get to everybody hereabout.

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Speaker 4: Your show, a Bronco.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to miss you the next time, don't.

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Speaker 4: Genuine?

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