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Speaker 1: This is kJ Live with Chris Johnson, and Chris is

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Speaker 1: having conversations with influencers in the sports world and entertainment

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Speaker 1: and astray. Now here's Chris Johnson. You're now tuned in

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Speaker 1: to kJ Live. Today's guest on the show is a

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Speaker 1: former ball player, current day coach, and was named Associated

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Speaker 1: Press and Detroit Free Press Coach of the Year in

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Speaker 1: their very first season at Detroit Country Day High School.

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Speaker 1: She was recently brought back home to be head coach

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Speaker 1: at Wynward High School. Let's welcome in Jericho Williams to

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Speaker 1: the show. Jericho. Hello, Hi, thanks for having me. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for having us in your world, in your zone. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. I know you're a busy lady to make

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Speaker 1: time for something like this, I truly appreciate it. Um.

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Speaker 1: We're excited to kind of find out your about your

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Speaker 1: journey and can obviously talk about your your president, coaching

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Speaker 1: job and when we're but I want to get started

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Speaker 1: before we get into all that. I want. I want

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Speaker 1: to introduce you to my audience. This is something we

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Speaker 1: do here at kJ live. We go back. Um. I

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Speaker 1: think people get um some value out of understanding where

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Speaker 1: if you don't mind, where were you born in the city,

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Speaker 1: like the area, the neighborhood. Yeah, a lot of people

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Speaker 1: don't know this, But I was actually born in Albany, Oregon,

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Speaker 1: which is a small town. Uh, right outside of Salem,

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Speaker 1: We lived there for until I was seven or eight,

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Speaker 1: the same neighborhood that we moved to San Diego that

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Speaker 1: we originally moved to San Diego back in however or

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Speaker 1: whatever it was. So, but I so I grew up

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Speaker 1: in San Diego. How WoT I tell peop? What? So

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Speaker 1: I'm from um Spring Valley, which is like southeast San Diego. Um,

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Speaker 1: where all the stuff happened. Um, but yeah, that's where

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Speaker 1: I'm from. Okay, sounds similar to um, kind of Viewpark

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Speaker 1: you said Southeast, it reminded me of my boy Jelanie

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Speaker 1: He's from San Diego. I think he might be from

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Speaker 1: the Southeast area. Is that where like Hoover is And yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's the hood San Diego, Like that's where the hood

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Speaker 1: so Southeast. Now what did your parents do? You said

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Speaker 1: your mom got accepted to masters, so she was, uh

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Speaker 1: in academics or what was going on her? And what

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Speaker 1: I actually both got their masters in psychology. Um. So

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Speaker 1: my dad was in uh juvenile delinquency. He got masters

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Speaker 1: of like my coaching expertise and why I'm so good

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Speaker 1: but he was like in UM like Polinski Center, like

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Speaker 1: Good question. Uh. He took me to UM the court like.

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Speaker 1: what I mean, Like just because they're in juvenile hall

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Speaker 1: And I think that that's what I was able to

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Speaker 1: And it was an amazing experience because once you step

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Speaker 1: these things that I consider issues or stuff I'm tripping about.

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Speaker 1: Basically I kind of started to change my perspective a

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Speaker 1: It's not it's not something that's easy to do. What

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Speaker 1: And my dad took me out back and he goes, hey,

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Speaker 1: And uh so I went and I signed. They signed

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Speaker 1: I won like it was like basically all boys, like

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Speaker 1: So they still give me a hard time with that

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Speaker 1: me somewhere, but I think my dad taking me outside,

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Speaker 1: any favorite players at this time that you looked up

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Speaker 1: I didn't know who was good who wasn't. I think

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Speaker 1: I had heard of Michael Jordan at a point um.

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Speaker 1: But at the very very beginning, it was literally like,

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Speaker 1: in my head. I knew my grandparents, you know, I

430
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 1: love my grandmother, love us my dad obviously, you know

431
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,199
Speaker 1: he was the U c l A. Guy. There's a

432
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 1: lot of pressure that was there associated with that. And

433
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 1: it's u c l A. So on the girl's side

434
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 1: of the boys, that doesn't matter. It's u c l

435
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 1: A one of the just premier spots for college that

436
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 1: you could ever get the opportunity to go to. So

437
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,360
Speaker 1: I totally get it. I totally understand. But when you're

438
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: not in your heart isn't into something Jericho, it's it's

439
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: not gotten. Typically it does not work out. When you

440
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: bounced from u c l A, did you consider going

441
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: to any other programs or who were the programs that

442
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 1: you're you're considering transferring to. Well, I mean I read

443
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 1: you back out to St. John's, but you know things

444
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 1: you know like, well, we don't need your position now

445
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 1: what ever the case? And me so San Diego State,

446
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 1: um so, Beth Burns was the coach at Sanego State

447
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: at the time and they were rebuilding. She was in

448
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 1: like her second or third year, and she had been ed.

449
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: I remember she saw me play when I was in

450
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: the eighth grade or ninth grade, and she had made

451
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 1: it off like known to me like she so I

452
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 1: remembered her. So when um we didn't have the transfer

453
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: portal back then, when it became known that I was transferring, um,

454
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 1: she reached out. She came into a home visit, and

455
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 1: I'll never forget like she told me the story when

456
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,199
Speaker 1: she saw me play my freshman year, and like she

457
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: could tell me that she knew things about me that

458
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: Cathy Olivier didn't know. So that connection, I was like, Oh,

459
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 1: this is what I want to play for. This person

460
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: knows me, she knows I'm a shooter, she knows my

461
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: person game, knows your game. You could bring up moves

462
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: you made, remembers you know this, and that that and this.

463
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 1: I get it all that. So I was like, you

464
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: know what, I don't want to go. I didn't like

465
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 1: the recruiting process, so I wasn't about to go on

466
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 1: five more visits or anything like that. So I'm like, look,

467
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: this is close to home to like I wanted to

468
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: go to New York with I'm like, I want to

469
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: be where I feel like I can excel in basketball.

470
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 1: And so people ask you, Oh, if you have to

471
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: make the decision again, would you do it the same

472
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,959
Speaker 1: life the profound part of Jericho. Yeah, because life wouldn't

473
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: have transpired the way life that's inspired to. But if

474
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: I'm if I'm and follow your heart and all of

475
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: those things. Absolutely, but I've made a basketball decision. If

476
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 1: I were to have made a life decision, I would

477
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: have stayed at U c l A. You know, Yeah,

478
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: that's a tough decision. I mean, the people don't understand

479
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: what well not people, the general public doesn't understand what

480
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 1: it's like when you're a student athlete and you have

481
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: a choice, when it's a school that's known for that

482
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: particular sport and it could be known for other things,

483
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: are not known for other things. You could have. Like me,

484
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: Cornell was my life decision. Let me just cut to

485
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 1: the chase. I was like, I need to make the

486
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 1: life move. Ivy League this thing and just average like

487
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: a dub a year every year, starting as a freshman.

488
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: You know, I'm coming in, I'm getting all the shots.

489
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: And that's kind of what I was on what I

490
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: was presented with. But ultimately like and then Washington State

491
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: was another scroll seriously considering because of one thing. Coach

492
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: Calvin Sampson. Um. Yeah, he's the head coach in Houston.

493
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 1: But this guy is a master recruiter. I mean, I

494
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 1: mean he he was on my horn every day at

495
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 1: the same time. That's back when they used to hit

496
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: you up all the time. You can have them long

497
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: conversations with coaches. I think it might have been like

498
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 1: that with you a little bit with some of the stitches,

499
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 1: but coaches could just hit you up. You be on

500
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 1: the phone for an hour. Like my stepmother used to

501
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: come in, Hey, Chris, I need the phone. It was like,

502
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: call you coach, let me call you back. But you

503
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, it was those those are really

504
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 1: good times. Um, you had to you flourished. Did you

505
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: let me ask you this? How would you describe? Now

506
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 1: you go to San Diego State? How would you describe

507
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 1: the Beth Burns knows you, she's familiar with your game.

508
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 1: You're back in the San Diego area. How would you

509
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: describe that experience of San Diego State? Man, it was hard.

510
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: It was hard because it was new. Um, and she

511
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,959
Speaker 1: pushed me like at the time, at the time, I

512
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: didn't understand what it meant to be, like really pushed,

513
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: you know, like with all due respects that Cathy oliviad

514
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: like that wasn't her strength. Like she was more of

515
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: a people person. Coach. Beth Burns was a she was

516
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: a winner like she was mental toughness, like that's it,

517
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: that's what we're here to do. And I wasn't um

518
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: as mentally tough as I thought. But she saw something

519
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 1: in me that I didn't see him myself yet, and

520
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: so I responded initially, really well, I worked really hard.

521
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: I came back fifteen pounds lighter, um, earned a starting spot,

522
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 1: like was averaging a double double in the first five games.

523
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: And then then I got bingched And there was really

524
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: no other reason other than like she told me, she

525
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 1: was like, we just think we for the team. We

526
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: just want you to come off the bench. And I

527
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: was so. I was, however, nineteen twenty years old, and

528
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to process, how to embrace that

529
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: role after working so hard and earning my spot, right,

530
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: so it felt like it was, well, my hard work

531
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: doesn't pay off like so that didn't. I didn't understand it, um,

532
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: and so I built up some resentment to her, I think,

533
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: and I didn't have the pieces around me at the

534
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: time to bring myself out of that, so I never

535
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: fully recovered UM. And then that's uh, so I it

536
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: took the love out of the game for me, you know,

537
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: And that's that's ultimately why like I made the decisions

538
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 1: to leave San Diego State early. Um, I I had

539
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: like three more months left in the season, and there

540
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,239
Speaker 1: was just like this breaking point for me that I

541
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: felt like I was totally losing myself. Um, and I

542
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 1: just didn't love the game. It was hard for me

543
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: to wake up every day knowing that I had to

544
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: go to practice like it was hard. Um. And so

545
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: I made the decision to to not to not do

546
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: it anymore, you know. And that's but then fast forward,

547
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 1: that's been something I held on too, because I'm like, Damn,

548
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: I was a quitter right like, even though I feel

549
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: like I made the best decision that was right for

550
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: me at the time, I'm like, you quit still, and um,

551
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: I can tell you I've never quit anything again after that.

552
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: But what I did do maybe five years down the line,

553
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: I think I had my son and you know, perspective

554
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: change for me and stuff. And I reached out to

555
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: her and I was like, I asked her, what, like,

556
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: why was she so hard on me? And then I

557
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: thanked her for being hard on me because it prepared

558
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,719
Speaker 1: me so much for life in a way that I

559
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: didn't see back then. Um. But Her response to me

560
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: was like, look, I gave it to you because I

561
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: knew that you can handle it, right, Like my delivery

562
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: may not have been the best, but I knew that

563
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: you can handle it. And I saw something in you

564
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: that you didn't see in yourself, and I wanted to

565
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: bring that out, Like I knew that you could be great,

566
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: and you didn't see it the way that I saw it.

567
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: So we were able to connect and find the value

568
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: in that experience. You know what I mean? That really

569
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: is gonna last me a lot longer than you know,

570
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: any other lesson honestly that I've had in my life. Yeah,

571
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: you hear you hear about. I had to call them

572
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,479
Speaker 1: horror stories between coaches and former players at times, especially

573
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: when there's a falling out, especially when someone is perceived

574
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: too had quit, either the coach or the player. UM

575
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: be able to reconcile that. But I think the key

576
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: thing here and I wanted to ask you about this

577
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: is something you keep saying and I feel like it's

578
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: important in your current role. Um, she you said she

579
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: saw something that you didn't see in yourself. How important

580
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: in coaching is that to identify what which players can

581
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: take it? And which can Yeah, good question. Um, that's

582
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: where I think relationships matter, right, Like, I think that

583
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: that's she didn't She wasn't the best at well, I

584
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: should say, her strength was not connecting on a relational level. Right,

585
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: So she knew how to push you, she knew how

586
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: to trigger you, but there was never a conversation. Go ahead,

587
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: you want to say something. I was gonna say that

588
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: when you have a person that pushes you all time

589
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: but doesn't kind of balance it out with the build

590
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: up before the building, wasn't that describe it? Okay? Correct? Correct?

591
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: And so I think that that's where I found the

592
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: balance of Like Kathy Olivier was really good at that,

593
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: she was really good at the relationship. Beth Burns is

594
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: really good at the like physical mental aspect. And so

595
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: I feel like I learned how to be somewhere in

596
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: the middle, you know, like I have to communicate prior

597
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: to enduring with my student athlete why I'm doing this right.

598
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: And then I also helped them This is where psychologists

599
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: parents come into play. I also help them like almost

600
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: make them feel like they're seeing it for themselves. So

601
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: it's not oh, hey I see this, it's like, hey,

602
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: let's pull back the layers a little bit. Really, what

603
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: do you see that you just don't know that you

604
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: that you have yet but you but it's in you somewhere.

605
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: And so it's almost like this reverse psychology a little bit.

606
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: But when we can but when players know that you care,

607
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: like when I tap in with my players and about

608
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: you know one of my players right now, she's a

609
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: she paints and like no one knew that she paints,

610
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: and she's legit, and so she sends me her paintings

611
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: all the time now and it's a way that we

612
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: can connect. So now when we're on the court, I'm like, yo,

613
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: we're staying here until you make whatever whatever, or hey,

614
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: you're not going hard. She responds better because she knows

615
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: that I care. And so I think that finding that

616
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: and you don't always get it right as a coach,

617
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: but you try, you know what I'm saying. You try.

618
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: My my philosophy has has been I want to be

619
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: to these young women the woman that I didn't have

620
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: growing up. I had a mom, I had a grandma,

621
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: but I didn't have like an older sister. I didn't

622
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: have an auntie. I didn't have a female coach. Um

623
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: that could pour into me in a way that was

624
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: so relatable, And that's what I want to be to

625
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: these young women, like, hey, I see you, and I'm

626
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: not just gonna like just beat you down to try

627
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: to bring you back up. I'm gonna let you know

628
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: what I see, how how we're gonna and how we're

629
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: gonna do this together so that you can be the

630
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: best version of yourself now in down the line. Yeah.

631
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: Ye shoot, hey, I've been like going rest of suicide

632
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: right now. No. No, but the relationship part, I think

633
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: you described it perfectly. When they know you care. Um

634
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: a mentor of mine. Uh, Ed Waters my dad's best friend.

635
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: He's the love him. Yeah. Yeah, he's currently the head

636
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: coach prunch on High. But he um he had said

637
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: up told me something on Twitter where he mentioned something

638
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: about just how love at the core of coaching and

639
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: and and the inner person relationship when you have a mentor,

640
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: if there's love and love presents itself in different shapes,

641
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: forms and fashions. You know, if you have love at

642
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: that core in that relationship with the player, and you

643
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: know it doesn't have to need this intense love, but

644
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: they know, like love, caring is part of love. You

645
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So if they know you care,

646
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: then they're gonna respond even on your bad days, even

647
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: on your worst days, staying on your coaching, I wanted

648
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: to I wanted to segue and discuss some of your

649
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: accolades that you've done. I mean, obviously after San Diego State,

650
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: I can go through your your history Amountain, gil Preston, Wood, Harvard,

651
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: west Lake. But then I really wanted to just hone

652
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: in on Detroit Country Day. I felt like I wanted

653
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: to hear the story about how you got that opportunity

654
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: and just talk a little bit about that incredible two

655
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: year run that you had out there. Yeah, thank you.

656
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: Uh So I was coaching at CALS Northridge and COVID

657
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 1: HIT and so my son. So I was a single parent,

658
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: UM and when my son he was turning seven, his

659
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: dad is from and lives in Detroit, UM, and we

660
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: were like, you know, his time for him to go

661
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: live there, Like he just needs to be with his dad.

662
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: And uh So he went out there and I couldn't

663
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: get on a plane because COVID HIT and I didn't

664
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: see my son for five months. And yeah, with that,

665
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: the longest you guys had ever been a part easy

666
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: so it looks look look if that brought up So

667
00:34:55,280 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: that brought out up? Sorry yeah, so um and but four,

668
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I would never move to Detroit

669
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: until I'm five months five months and I can't see

670
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: my baby. Then I'm you know, So I started to

671
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: look for opportunities because there's nothing in the world more

672
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: important than being near my child for me and for

673
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: him at this point, um and So I looked for opportunities,

674
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: and I knew I was ready to be a head coach.

675
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: It's funny because when I was in he Sun, I

676
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: had said talking about them speaking things into fruition. I said.

677
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I want to be a head coach.

678
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 1: My next thing. I want to be a head coach

679
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: at the top private school. And I wasn't looking for it,

680
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: but I planted that seed. So then when it was

681
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: time to when it was time to look for opportunities

682
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: in Detroit, Detroit Country day was open. Um. So I

683
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: reached out. I applied. Um, I went through the process.

684
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: I got it, and you went through the you went

685
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: through the normal, regular, the regular process. No, I'm just curious.

686
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: I'm just curious because a lot of times for those

687
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: type of situations, it's surprising that you would as an outsider,

688
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: so to speak. I mean, you must have really impressed

689
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: the heck out of that administration. That's my point for

690
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: saying all this to come from. You know you're working.

691
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: Talk to me, let me yes, no, you're right. Same

692
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: thing with Windward. I went through the regular process. I

693
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: didn't have an end. I didn't know anybody there. Um

694
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: So a Country Day was that same, and people at

695
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: Country Day say that, Like people at Country Day when

696
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: I was there, they'd be like, how did you get

697
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: the job? And I got a point and they're like, okay, yeah,

698
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: but how did you get it? Like who do you know?

699
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: And day? Like But and I'll say this, Chris, I

700
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: don't apply like a normal person, like when I want

701
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: something like the free throw contest. When I want something,

702
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: I leave no stone unturned, like my focus is here,

703
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: I have no distractions. Um And and so my cover letter,

704
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,479
Speaker 1: my resume, like it stands out like it's gonna stand

705
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: out if it's if it's what I want. And I

706
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: only go after things that I want at this point

707
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: in my life. So I got it. Um So, what

708
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: do you want to know about Country day specifically because

709
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: it was it was it was a good journey. The challenge, Well,

710
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 1: you followed the well I believe you. You were following

711
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: a person, Frank Orlando, that had won thirteen state championships. Okay,

712
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: they were coming. You were coming off a two win

713
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: season when you got the job. So Frank Orlando, he

714
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: was there for forty years. He was there, he's the

715
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: most winningest coach in Michigan basketball history. Um and he

716
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: had retired and then his assistant coach took over for

717
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: two years, and they had won a total of four

718
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: games in those two years. After that coach had left.

719
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: Um So I was acquiring the team that had won

720
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: a total of four games in two years. And there

721
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 1: were sophomores at this point. So no, so I had

722
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: one sophomore because everyone else who was on the team

723
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: didn't like basketball, like they were just like whatever. So

724
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 1: I acquired all freshmen, one sophomore, and one senior who

725
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: had never played. She was just really tall, really long.

726
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 1: She had been on the team, but she never played.

727
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: Um So, there was no like, let me see who

728
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: I can get in. It was like, look, it was

729
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 1: my first guy coaching job. I'm like, we're gonna roll

730
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: with what we got, like I'm you know, I'm a coach,

731
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: and uh, they bought I had all freshman, so they

732
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: bought an easy you know what I mean, Like they

733
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: were excited to just be part of something. And um,

734
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 1: I only had two or three people who had played

735
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: basketball before. Everybody else was like softball, soccer. Um. But

736
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: I had open tryouts and I was very diligent in

737
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: my staff. I was lucky to hire a phenomenal staff. UM,

738
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: but I was very diligent in like I'm hiring the people.

739
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm not hiring, I'm I'm selecting the players did not

740
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: necessarily stand out because of skill, but this showed me

741
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: good character, UM and the intangibles. That was it. That

742
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: was all I was looking for. UM. I said no

743
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: to a couple of players that just had bad attitude,

744
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: but they could hoop a little bit. I said no

745
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: to them. So we rolled with nine UM one senior,

746
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: one sophomore, and the rest were freshmen. And we I

747
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: don't know who wasn't. I know, people were not anticipating

748
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: us to do what we did, but we beat a

749
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: lot of people we weren't supposed to be and we

750
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: went further than anybody thought we were gonna go. So

751
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: then that next year, UM, year two, they were all sophomores,

752
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: one junior, no seniors, UM, some returners, mostly returners obviously,

753
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: and then I think I had like one or two

754
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 1: new I had three new freshman UM one of them

755
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: that contributed a lot, and we actually lost like we

756
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 1: were fifty. We were we were at five hundred going

757
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: into the playoffs, and I remember saying to them, I

758
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: was like, in my mind, I'm like, if we if

759
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: we went out, we will have won fifteen total games

760
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: in the year. So I think we had seven. We're

761
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: like seven and seven. It's horrible, totally different experience, same team,

762
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: totally different experience. So that was my thing, is like, well,

763
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: I know it's how we end. I believe what I believe,

764
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 1: but it's harder to motivate a team that like has

765
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: lost like they had one and then they had then

766
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: they were losing. So I was like, all right, everybody right,

767
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: fifteen on their wrists and no one knew why. Oh

768
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: they were like, coach, what are we doing. I'm like,

769
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: just do it, just do it, just do it, just

770
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: do it. Time went on. Chris. I think it was

771
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: like third game man. I'm like, look, this is what

772
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: the number fifteen means. So we were at like ten

773
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: and seven at that point, and we just kept winning. Um,

774
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: it was we just we just kept winning and we

775
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: ended up with fourteen wins, which you know, so two

776
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: totally different seasons, um, but similar outcomes. So yeah, it's

777
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: I mean two district and regional championships, state semis at

778
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: Michigan State. Uh so you guys played in the Breslin

779
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: Center or the place for Michigan State place. That must

780
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: have been a pretty nice experience to take for the

781
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: young ladies too. They probably didn't expect that to happen

782
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: in there two year especially after the losing seasons. Fox

783
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation.

784
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,839
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786
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: s R to listen live. How difficult was it for

787
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: you to say goodbye to that team, to those people,

788
00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: that community after achieving such like just out of out

789
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: of no unexpected success, how did how hard is it

790
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: to say goodbye to that Well, it's definitely see you later,

791
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 1: not goodbye. Um, but there was a lot of tears, uh.

792
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 1: I didn't cry too much, not because I wasn't sad,

793
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: but it was more like numb to the situation because

794
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: it wasn't just them. It wasn't just the Troy Country.

795
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: Day was all my son that I was moving away

796
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: from because he stayed. He's there full time with his dad,

797
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: so I get to see him a lot, but not

798
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: I'm not down the street anymore. Um. So I was

799
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: processing a lot of that. But there were a lot

800
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: of tears. You know. It showed me, um the impact,

801
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: because I know the impact that they had on me.

802
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: But what I didn't realize was the impact I had

803
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: on them, because they were They wrote me letters and

804
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 1: a lot of things came out that they had never said.

805
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 1: You know, I think that they anticipated that I'd be

806
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: there at least through their career. Um. But I think

807
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: that the feedback I got from the administrators, a couple

808
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: of administrators cried um, and from the parents, man like,

809
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: just like you you changed our daughter. Uh. And it

810
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: was just like that's what it was about. It had

811
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: nothing to do with basketball, you know. And so for me,

812
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: my my intention when letting them know that I was

813
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: leaving was like I'm always here, Like I'm gonna be

814
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: your coach forever. So like within the last week, I've

815
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: faced times with four of them that are out there,

816
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: because I would be a hypocrite if I say I'm

817
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: a relational coach and I don't maintain relationships with the

818
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: players that I've coached. I have a former player coming

819
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: to interview with me this week. I gave a letter

820
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: of recommendation to one of the players I coached at

821
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: Preston Wood. Like it it's it's a lifetime thing, um,

822
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: And so my job is to continue to pour into them.

823
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 1: And so I knew there was an opportunity for them

824
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: as young women to grow right. Like, I definitely threw

825
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: them some adversity with me leaving, but I know that

826
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: they're going to be so much better because of it.

827
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: But it was it was an easy and when weard

828
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: made it an easier transition, you know what I'm saying,

829
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: Like to know where I was going, um, definitely made

830
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: it made the blow a little easier. But I know

831
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: that then my girl's back in Detroit and my family's

832
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: back in Detroit felt it. But I was able to

833
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: garner relationships that really, like will last a life time.

834
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: So I was just really excited that I got the

835
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: opportunity to do that. Absolutely, And what type of roster

836
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: or what state of the program is Whenward in as

837
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: you inherit are you are named a head coach? Yeah,

838
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: so when we're so when we went to the Division

839
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: one state championship this year, Um, their former coach is

840
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: the Phoenix Mercury head coach. That yeah, so something different

841
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: than a team with two wins. But you know, I

842
00:44:55,200 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: think it's one just full transparency. It was valid for

843
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: me that like, oh, you're ready for something of this stature, right,

844
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 1: Like you're ready for something of this stature, um, because

845
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,959
Speaker 1: the same things apply, right, Like I'm following a coach.

846
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: That's amazing, I've done that before. Um. And I understand

847
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: how to honor the people who came before and the program,

848
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: the legacy that is Winward or the legacy that is

849
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 1: Detroit Country Day and still understand that it's a new era,

850
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 1: you know, and be able to contribute to that new era.

851
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: So um, yeah, no, it's it's it's the roster is

852
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: we lost three seniors. Um. But like I tell our

853
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: players now, like, man, it's a clean slate to be honest,

854
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: I haven't seen them play in person once I saw

855
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: him play on you know, on the computer, but I

856
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: haven't seen him in the gym, um, and so it's

857
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 1: a clean slate for me. So I'm excited to see,

858
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 1: um what they could do. When you go in your

859
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: one and set the foundation for your program, established the

860
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: culture all that is it something that is there a

861
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: manual you have that you kind of blueprint you take.

862
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what your situation is, You're gonna coach

863
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: in that situation the same or do you go by

864
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: sort of you you look at your roster you kind

865
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: of say, okay, well I can rock, I can get out,

866
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: I can get down like this with this crew, but

867
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: this crew may not and I might not be able

868
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: to get down with Or is it just that blueprint? Hey,

869
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,959
Speaker 1: no matter what crew it is, this is what time

870
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: it is, and this is what we how we're doing it.

871
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: Good question. I think it's a little bit of both.

872
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: I think you have to know, you know, one of

873
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: the the first thing that I did when I got

874
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: on campus was conducted with everybody individually, you know, um,

875
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: because while they're you know, and John Wooden is obviously

876
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: someone who I aspire. While there's foundational things that never change. Um,

877
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: I think there is. You have to understand who you're

878
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: in a relationship with to know how to communicate them

879
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 1: and to with them, and to know how they received

880
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: and process information and stuff like that. Uh. So I

881
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: think that that's a key element, but it doesn't necessarily

882
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: change my approach. I think, if anything else, what I

883
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: saw with Country Day, what I've seen as a player

884
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: and being in different things. Um, I went and visited

885
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: Vanessa and I guard at Phoenix, and it's like basketball

886
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: is basketball, like culture is culture. Like the fundamental stuff

887
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: does not change. And so I have to be true

888
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 1: to to who I am in my beliefs, like I can't.

889
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 1: You know, I have to be the leader of of it. Um.

890
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: And they're they're going to buy in to how I lead,

891
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: but understand too like I'm learning from them just as

892
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: much as they're learning from me. So in that way,

893
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna be able to build it together. Um. But

894
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: I definitely do not take my responsibility of leading the ship,

895
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 1: you know, I take that very seriously. So, uh, everyone

896
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 1: will adapt, but we'll all learn and grow together. What

897
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 1: do you think is the single most important thing for

898
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: you as a coach, as a leader of young women

899
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: for them to leave your program with as far as character, uh,

900
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: is it something on the court? Is it something I could?

901
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: I mean, what like what are your like you know,

902
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: pennants of you that Jerick Williams experienced as a coach.

903
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: I did this practice uh with them the other day.

904
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: I told we talked about liabilities and assets and you know,

905
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: most of the kids that age don't know, so it's

906
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 1: a good opportunity teach them about actual liabilities and assets

907
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: in terms of you know, finances. Um. But I asked him,

908
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, how are you a liability to you to

909
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: your team? Right? Um? And so many of them gave

910
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: answers that were intent double communication, um, not believing in

911
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: each other, things like that. And it was such a

912
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: good question because I had to answer the question for

913
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: myself too. Um. So what I want people to leave

914
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: with is like being a high character, but being an

915
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: asset minded right, Like being a contributor in your life

916
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: to society, to your family, to your team. And so

917
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: I think that there's so many things that fall under

918
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: the umbrella of being an asset because it requires that

919
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 1: you give and that you add, you continue to add

920
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: value to whatever it is that you're doing. And because

921
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: that can take so many different forms, is you evolve

922
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: in life. I think that if you maintain or have

923
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 1: the tools to be asset minded and take that into

924
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: whatever situation or circumstance that you're in, you're going to

925
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: be successful in whatever form that may take. You know,

926
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: And so I pray that my kids are all high

927
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 1: character individuals that leave with high levels of confidence no

928
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: one that they're gonna be high level contributors to the world. Amazing. Um,

929
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: I listening to you at a real coach successful in

930
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: all levels. I I kinda have been doing some self

931
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: introspection and understand and I kind of started to figure

932
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: out where I went wrong as a coach. I used

933
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: to coach a lot on the E Y d N.

934
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: I've coached high school, but everything you've talked about today

935
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: has kind of opened my eyes to like, how to

936
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: deal with the relationship part of basketball is so important.

937
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 1: I think we when you come from a certain era,

938
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: the only thing that mattered was the result part of it.

939
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: And however you get to that result, Uh, it didn't

940
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: matter how many stories you told, you stepped on, or

941
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: if that person liked you or not. And and it

942
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if it's not about like and it's about

943
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: I realized, like, you know, people have coached me it's

944
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: sort of rough kind of fashions, and so you know what,

945
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 1: you get coached a rough fashion, you in turn coach

946
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: others in a rough fashion, and you don't keep in

947
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: mind like this generation isn't that same generation. So I'm

948
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: sorry for that little little sidebar there, but it's just

949
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: it's just so, it's just it's just such a revelation

950
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:22,479
Speaker 1: listening to you. Uh. I have to discuss something else

951
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: because in doing my research for this interview, I saw

952
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: that you were named the San Diego Businesswoman of the

953
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: Year in two thousand and seventeen, and this is something

954
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: that is extremely impressive that I looked a little deeper

955
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: and you have a consulting firm that you've had some

956
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen that specializes in biz dev marketing, branding,

957
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: and public relations. And then my first real interaction with you,

958
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: and I hope you don't mind me sharing this, Um,

959
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: my first real interaction with Jericho was not on the

960
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 1: basketball floor. I don't think it was for my father.

961
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:57,720
Speaker 1: Marcus is Jersey retirement the Milwaukee Bucks retired as Jersey.

962
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: Jericho was the point person, the lead of everything, so

963
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: we had anything that was going down, We had the

964
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 1: hollywand Jericho, so we you know, we're getting flown to Milwaukee.

965
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 1: We're here, We're there at dinners, were at the Jersey time.

966
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: It was. It was one of the most amazing moments

967
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: of my life. Thank you for all your hard work

968
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: on that. I don't think I don't think you know

969
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: your job and what you do. Obviously not that you

970
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: describe it, but it's a thankless job at times, and

971
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 1: so you know, but thank you for that. But but

972
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: I'd love for you just to talk about Um Jace

973
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 1: consulting and you know what the impetus for it was,

974
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: and it just kind of how it's gone for you

975
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: and how you use that if you have it all

976
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: in the coaching room. Yeah, great question. I appreciate the research. Um,

977
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: it was an honor helping coordinate your dad's Jersey retirement. Sure,

978
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: it was a pure honor. I was amazing. UM got

979
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: really good feedback. But UM, the fact that he just

980
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: enjoyed that night, enjoyed my weekend, like and it seems smooth,

981
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: like it seems like it went well smooth. Um. No,

982
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 1: So Jayson is my nickname, it's my family nickname. Um.

983
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: Public relations is something that I didn't even know was

984
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: a thing. I found a passion back however, long ago

985
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: when my son was born. So I was a single

986
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: mom and UM like like single mom, you know, like

987
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 1: single mom, and I needed uh flexibility uh for my son.

988
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: But while that was happening, UM, I had fell into

989
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: a couple of opportunities, like to organize events and things

990
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: of that nature. And I realized that I really had

991
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: a knack for connecting people. That turned into connecting like

992
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: businesses and brands and stuff like that. And then because

993
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 1: I spoke the athlete language, it just kind of turned

994
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: into this like branding, marketing, strategic partnership or deal. Uh.

995
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 1: And I already had so many existing relationships that made

996
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: that situation kind of happened organically. So like when I

997
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 1: was coaching at Preston Wood that's where Julius random Win

998
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: um they had her. I was working at like Northwestern Mutual.

999
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: But I'm not a nine to five person. I'm gonna

1000
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: be honest, like not a nine person. And uh, I

1001
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,240
Speaker 1: was like, hey, I came up with all these ideas

1002
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 1: to help this organization do things. And I'm like, man,

1003
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: I could do this on my I could do this

1004
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: on my own. I could make a lot more money

1005
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: doing this if I put my attention into this. And

1006
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: so I walked into my boss's office and I quit like.

1007
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, Chris, because I was in there,

1008
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: I was probably making I was young. I was like,

1009
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: I was probably making fifteen dollars an hour. I was

1010
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: there for eight hours a day, not counting when I

1011
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: take my son to daycare, pick him up, lunch, whatever.

1012
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, for fifteen dollars an hour, I could find

1013
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: that in the couch. That's how I felt. And I

1014
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: wasn't doing something that I loved. And you know this,

1015
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: you're not gonna you're not gonna work hard if you

1016
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 1: don't love what you know. It's tough. It's hard. It's

1017
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: hard to do that. It's hard. So I was like,

1018
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: you know what, I could do it. So I went

1019
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: in there. I'm like, I'm out, and I want to

1020
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:31,240
Speaker 1: say that. Next week, Julius Randall's um like point person

1021
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: was like, hey, he needs a publicist. And I heard that,

1022
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: you know, you're kind of good at this whatever, and

1023
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, and they're like, do you want

1024
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: to be as publicists? And I was like for show.

1025
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: So he was a senior in Kentucky at the time

1026
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 1: and it hadn't been announced yet that he was going

1027
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: to enter the draft. So long story short, I had

1028
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: Julius Randall as the seventh pick of the Los Angeles

1029
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: Lakers as my first like theme yeah, um, and so

1030
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: I kind of just got thrown into the fire, but

1031
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: I'm made a business out of it. Uh. And so

1032
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: fast forward, my son was getting a little bit older,

1033
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: and I was like Jay's had I was going Nina.

1034
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: I was like going to all these places, but I

1035
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: wasn't home enough and I was ready to kind of

1036
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: settle down. And so that was like in the midst

1037
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: of all that is when I got business Woman of

1038
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: the Year because I was everywhere like I was getting

1039
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: there was behind the scenes, like to your point, no

1040
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: one would know that I was. Then I helped coordinate

1041
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: that Jersey retirement, like nobody would know that, but I was.

1042
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: I found myself in a lot of different places, but

1043
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: I was away from my kids, so I was like,

1044
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: let me find something. What can I see myself doing

1045
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: for the rest of my life. That also allows me

1046
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: to be, you know, just more present with my son.

1047
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,959
Speaker 1: And um, I'm like, let's do basketball, like, let's jump

1048
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: into it full flesh. Because even in Preston Wood, I

1049
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 1: was it was part time right like, it wasn't a

1050
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: full time thing. And so I put some fillers out there,

1051
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 1: um and and it landed. And so but I knew

1052
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: that like to be the coach that I wanted to be,

1053
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: I couldn't equally give a hundred percent to my you know,

1054
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 1: consulting business, pr business and coach in the way that

1055
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: I that I wanted to do it. Um. So now

1056
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: that that's why I've moved into more of a consultancy

1057
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: where I still know how to connect people very efficiently.

1058
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: Like I still know what used to take me a

1059
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:28,919
Speaker 1: long time to do, I can do it really quick.

1060
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: So it's not something that um, I really even market

1061
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: now like it's it's more so just word of mouth

1062
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: because I really give a lot, if not everything in

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Speaker 1: my day to coaching to coaching my team. So I

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Speaker 1: hope that answers your question. Yeah, that does. I just

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Speaker 1: wanted to get some background. I mean, to be recognized

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Speaker 1: as you have and received some of the accoletes. It's

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Speaker 1: always nice to hear about the grind and how people started. Um,

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Speaker 1: I didn't have any idea that Julish Randall was your client.

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Speaker 1: That's something that was revelation right here on this show

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Speaker 1: kJ Live. You heard it first. Uh No, but no,

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Speaker 1: it's awesome, Jericho, No listen. I wanted to just wish

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Speaker 1: you the best at Winward and your next journey. UM.

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Speaker 1: I have no doubt given your experiences that it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be an amazing one and a highly successful one. You

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Speaker 1: possess a lot of the skills and qualities that we've

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Speaker 1: seen in a lot of the great coaches, and I

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Speaker 1: think that thank you you with your personal twist on

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Speaker 1: it too. As far as who you are coming up

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Speaker 1: in this, you know your generation and who you just

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Speaker 1: turned out to be as experiences typically make us, it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's right that sounds. I think it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a really good opportunity. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: coming on kJ Live. Do you want to give any

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Speaker 1: shout outs before you go? Um? Well, first of all,

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Speaker 1: kJ thank you. UM you guys have been like family

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Speaker 1: to me, even if it's from a disc And UM,

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Speaker 1: I rock with Johnson's at a high level. So I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you reaching out and just honored to be on

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Speaker 1: the show and congratulations on the show and and all

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Speaker 1: that you continue to do and continue to inspire. UM

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Speaker 1: shout outs. Uh, you know, not really like I really

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Speaker 1: don't have. I finally got a Twitter, So I was

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Speaker 1: off social media for years and I finally got a Twitter.

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Speaker 1: So I guess that, Um, but you know, come out

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Speaker 1: and support the when we're girls basketball team when the

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Speaker 1: season is is here. Uh and uh, I think the

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Speaker 1: other thing is, you know, my kid, my son Dariah.

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Speaker 1: I was talking to somebody like I'm just so proud

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Speaker 1: of the young man and he's becoming you know, like

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Speaker 1: someone asked me what motivates me? And m obviously our

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Speaker 1: kids like naturally motivate, but you know, dry and I

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Speaker 1: bounced around a lot, like to all those jobs that

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Speaker 1: you see all my resume, Like he came with me,

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Speaker 1: He was with me, and as a parent, you know,

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Speaker 1: you you just hope that you're doing a good job.

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Speaker 1: And so to see him now, I was just with

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Speaker 1: him and we went to New York for Mother's Day

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Speaker 1: and he's just like so like this independent young man,

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Speaker 1: that young boy that uh, he's him, but he's he's sharp, man,

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Speaker 1: He's sharp. He's on top of his stuff, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I just I feel like all the stuff that we

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Speaker 1: went through so far, he's taking that and really embraced it.

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Speaker 1: And it's I can see how it's making him, you know, him,

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Speaker 1: like he just walks in like this confidence about himself.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just really honored to be his mom. But

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Speaker 1: it's it's I just wanna. I know that there's so

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Speaker 1: many working mothers out there and father's right, um, but female,

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Speaker 1: being a female coach and a mom is a really

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Speaker 1: hard thing to do. Um, But I have to just

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Speaker 1: wreck Ny is my son and the role that he

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Speaker 1: continues to play in my life. You know. So I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you giving me the platform to do that. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Geriah. I love that, all right, Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: that's it. I appreciate it, alright, Ladies and gentlemen, Jericho Williams,

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Speaker 1: thank you