Speaker 1: I feel like I should be singing just the two
Speaker 1: of us.
Speaker 2: I know we could start off like that.
Speaker 1: I like that, but that's the only part of the
Speaker 1: song I know. I know that I asked the two
Speaker 1: of us, we can make it up. We try just
Speaker 1: the two of us. You and do you know, for
Speaker 1: the longest time, I thought that was Will Smith's song.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be embarrassed. It's like Al Green or
Speaker 1: somebody somebody, not Will Smith, like one of those old
Speaker 1: soul singers. So I'm sorry. Hope, there goes my phone. Listen,
Speaker 1: my two best friends are still texting me. This is
Speaker 1: a text just came in about this whole Beyonce Lemonade situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I can't wait for this.
Speaker 1: I woke up to like thirty five. What's funny? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're going, So we're can just talk about it now.
Speaker 1: So let's just do it.
Speaker 2: Did our singing that's important today?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got this. Yeah we're going.
Speaker 2: We're going, Okay, okay, So yeah, so Lemonade, I know
Speaker 2: my bestie was like, first of all, it was hilarious.
Speaker 2: So I for some reason I could not find HBO
Speaker 2: like on my TV, and so I saw my bestie
Speaker 2: on Facebook was like I'm watching Lemonade and getting my life.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, I can't find it.
Speaker 2: It's not on my HBO. She was like, call the
Speaker 2: cable company. That's how serious it was. But I seriously
Speaker 2: considered it. But I googled and I found it.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I actually didn't watch it live. On Saturday.
Speaker 1: I went out and had a couple of cocktails, and
Speaker 1: I got back and fell promptly asleep because that's how
Speaker 1: I party now. And so I woke up at like
Speaker 1: six am and I went out and I watched it
Speaker 1: by myself, which I'm really happy about, Like no one
Speaker 1: yelling at me, no one saying y'all sent my ear,
Speaker 1: like I have friends who had viewing parties. It was
Speaker 1: like emotional experience, and it was I'm glad that I
Speaker 1: had it, like, you know, by myself in my little
Speaker 1: quiet place.
Speaker 2: I see I did it the wrong way because I
Speaker 2: finally got to watch it, but when I started watching,
Speaker 2: it was already halfway done. So I was so confused,
Speaker 2: like what's happening, you know? And then it really wasn't
Speaker 2: until I realized, oh, this is like a visual representation
Speaker 2: of her album and then I found it online and
Speaker 2: while Superman was sleeping last night, I watched it and
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, so I had already gotten like
Speaker 2: all the hype, all the whatever out of the way
Speaker 2: because I hadn't even seen Serena. And I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm you know, at first, I was like I don't
Speaker 2: get it, but then after watching the whole thing in
Speaker 2: its entirety, I was like, I can dig it.
Speaker 1: I mean you got yeah, you gotta watch the entire
Speaker 1: thing in order.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, you do. And honestly, overall, I could definitely
Speaker 2: say I liked it. You know that I was there
Speaker 2: definitely parts where I'm like huh or but I the vibe,
Speaker 2: the transition that she's making, I'm here for it.
Speaker 1: You know. It made Formation make so much more sense.
Speaker 1: It like gave context for Formation. But it also I
Speaker 1: felt like was so much deeper than what Formation was.
Speaker 2: Yes, for sure, what I'm.
Speaker 1: Worried about once what I've been hearing. I mean, first
Speaker 1: of all, like I loved it. I thought it was
Speaker 1: her best music she's put out, Like, there were some
Speaker 1: really interesting collaborations on this, and it wasn't just like,
Speaker 1: you know, the weekend Kendrick Lamar. Maybe people would have
Speaker 1: seen that coming. But like James Blake and the country song,
Speaker 1: I don't know who did that country song with her.
Speaker 1: I fucking loved it. I was like, okay, country Beyonce.
Speaker 2: Country Beyonce with the braids, Let's ride on the horse. Yes,
Speaker 2: So there was a song. Was it Freedom at the end?
Speaker 2: Which on the stage? That song I loved.
Speaker 1: That was with Kendrick. Well, that was just nothing but
Speaker 1: black girl power. I mean, you had Zenda, you had
Speaker 1: and forget me. I don't know all the names of
Speaker 1: the famous women, but I know that ballerina dancer was
Speaker 1: famous person. I know Coven Jenny Wallace was there. She
Speaker 1: was like holding Blue Ivy's hand.
Speaker 2: Yes, I was like, oh, that was just and I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna lie. I totally shed a tear when you know,
Speaker 2: when the women were holding their lost sons or their
Speaker 2: sons so ugh. Yes, it was like, honestly, I just
Speaker 2: you know, I lost it. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: it just was so and I kept I literally felt
Speaker 2: myself saying aloud, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, because you know, you don't see the
Speaker 1: women behind the boys who die. You don't see in
Speaker 1: the media, all you see is the picture of the
Speaker 1: young boy and maybe the cop, but you don't. I
Speaker 1: think people forget that, you know, there's a mother who
Speaker 1: raised these kids and had to bury them. And that
Speaker 1: was that was really poignant for me.
Speaker 2: I cried to you, yes, and honestly, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: we'll be out there with this outfit, with this Onenkora
Speaker 2: outfit in European cuts. Yes, I am here for it.
Speaker 2: I just love that.
Speaker 1: Was that the one where the big BILLOWI like Victorian
Speaker 1: style dress, but it was like an African print.
Speaker 2: So they call that ancre like okay, and so, like
Speaker 2: you what I love about OnCore is that you can,
Speaker 2: you know, the print is so clearly African, and the
Speaker 2: fun thing to do with it is to cut it
Speaker 2: in ways that are traditionally not African, you know. So
Speaker 2: it's like I have so many like Oncre outfits, like
Speaker 2: you know, made specially and you could just make a
Speaker 2: mini skirt, but it's on care a fat you know, fabric,
Speaker 2: so it just looks so dope. Because actually I think
Speaker 2: it was the met the Costume Institute. I think they
Speaker 2: had like a whole like I don't remember if it
Speaker 2: was like a display or whatever, but it was that
Speaker 2: kind of like look it was the African print on
Speaker 2: care print, and then everyone was wearing traditional European kind
Speaker 2: of like old school Victorian outfits, but with that print,
Speaker 2: which was so dope.
Speaker 1: That was like, and we got hints of that from Formation.
Speaker 1: I feel like a little bit, but this video just
Speaker 1: blew everything out of the water everything. You know, I
Speaker 1: feel like I can already sense I mean not to
Speaker 1: be I'm like kind of defensive against Beyonce. Like as
Speaker 1: soon as I watched Lemonade and I knew how much
Speaker 1: I loved it, I was like, people are gonna try
Speaker 1: and tear me down. They're gonna try and say it
Speaker 1: wasn't that good. So you know, my friend and we've
Speaker 1: had Jessica on the show before, so of course there
Speaker 1: was a text message started starting with her and my
Speaker 1: other best friend, and I just did. I ignored my
Speaker 1: phone all day. I was like, let me just sit
Speaker 1: in my feelings before before I have to go and
Speaker 1: defend her.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 1: But you know what's surprising is they were. Jess was
Speaker 1: on board. She liked it really, but you know, her
Speaker 1: argument in so many women's argument or so many people
Speaker 1: like Beyonce haters or not haters, but you know, people
Speaker 1: who aren't so much fans, all they say is, how
Speaker 1: is she empowering women? She's running around into two two
Speaker 1: and like a leotard and she's talking about twerking and
Speaker 1: freakom dresses, and they say her music doesn't really say anything.
Speaker 1: And now all I have to do is just push
Speaker 1: play on Lemonade.
Speaker 2: Exactly, and I just you know, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: I considered getting titled for that free one month just
Speaker 2: so I can like sit and listen without the visuals,
Speaker 2: just to kind of let it soak in, because they
Speaker 2: were definitely some songs and I was like, what like
Speaker 2: the song when she was like put your middle fing
Speaker 2: I was like, oh am, just her face and her yes.
Speaker 1: But oh Serena, oh my god, Serena. Oh I just yeah.
Speaker 1: It was just such a rollercoature of emotions.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was like, Yes, when Beyonce came out with
Speaker 2: the fur cole the swag in that segment of Lemonade,
Speaker 2: I was like, if this woman's swag is not on
Speaker 2: the thousand, I don't know what is.
Speaker 1: I think the title of that chapter was anger. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it came through.
Speaker 2: Yes, I was like, oh, sorry, Becky.
Speaker 1: First of all, did you see? Oh go ahead, let's.
Speaker 2: Talk about how the internet's the beehive how to read?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yes you saw? Okay, Rachel Ray.
Speaker 2: So for those of you who are like what, so
Speaker 2: beehive is like the people that follow Beyonce and they
Speaker 2: are vicious. I mean the high will will sing you
Speaker 2: to death. So apparently people thought the Becky with the
Speaker 2: with the good hair, well, if you haven't watched the Lemonade,
Speaker 2: sorry spoiler alert. So it basically implies that that jay
Speaker 2: Z cheated on her and people is an understatement.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's the scarlet letter on his face. Yeah, tattoos it.
Speaker 2: And then supposedly it's supposed to be with Rachel Roy,
Speaker 2: who is She's a fashion designer, right, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know who she is. I didn't know before this
Speaker 1: whole thing came out.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think she's a fashion designer. And you know,
Speaker 2: I thought she was married to Dame Dash at one point.
Speaker 2: They have a kid, which that's jay Z's ex best friend. Anyway,
Speaker 2: So Rachel Roy is like a fashion designer. She's beautiful.
Speaker 2: I think she looks like I want to say that
Speaker 2: she could be uh, Indian maybe Pakistani, that's you know
Speaker 2: that like in that kind of flavor. But she's beautiful.
Speaker 2: And so people are saying, remember when Salange beat jay
Speaker 2: Z down in the elevator m hm, So they're saying
Speaker 2: that that was it was because of that, because he
Speaker 2: had been inappropriate with her. And so Rachel Roy posted
Speaker 2: like something like right after lemonade about having good hair,
Speaker 2: and so everybody was like, oh, it is you. But
Speaker 2: unfortunately there's a Rachel Ray who's this cute little Italian
Speaker 2: woman that cooks.
Speaker 1: What I would say, it's arguably the bigger star.
Speaker 2: Yes, definitely as far as like more mainstream. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: that's probably why they found her. So they thought Rachel Ray,
Speaker 2: who's this little Italian woman was Rachel Roy, and they
Speaker 2: went to her harassing that.
Speaker 1: Of all the people, the most wholesome, like all American
Speaker 1: food network star Rachel Ray, who has a talk show
Speaker 1: that comes out of like three PM, I've.
Speaker 2: Never been in any trouble, never any proparazzi anything, never.
Speaker 2: I know. She was like, what's going on, guys? And
Speaker 2: she's so cute. She's got like all these little nicknames
Speaker 2: for things like instead of like she calls what is
Speaker 2: that stuff like olive oil, like oh yeah, oh, she's
Speaker 2: just so cute, and like, I know she was like
Speaker 2: why why are people attacking me? Go ahead?
Speaker 1: I saw one meme that was like Becky with the
Speaker 1: good chili.
Speaker 2: So I was reading some of the stuff that people
Speaker 2: were posting, and once they realized it was the wrong person,
Speaker 2: one somebody actually said, as a member of the Beehive Committee,
Speaker 2: we sincerely apologize. Oh my god, honestly that I mean.
Speaker 2: I literally laughed out loud. I was dying. I'm like,
Speaker 2: y'all be high both, y'all don't know what to stop.
Speaker 2: Don't come for me because I love Beyonce and I'm
Speaker 2: just saying that I should be.
Speaker 1: What we should be asking is like why are they
Speaker 1: going after the woman anyway? Like jay Z is the
Speaker 1: one who cheated exactly. You know what's crazy. I was
Speaker 1: trying to understand why the whole entire video, the movie
Speaker 1: was like getting to me emotionally, and I mean I
Speaker 1: mean towards the end, I was a mess. When the
Speaker 1: moms of the black men who died with jay Z's
Speaker 1: mom grandmother giving that speech about lemonade, when it finally
Speaker 1: clicked for me, what the hell lemonade meant and where
Speaker 1: the lemonade was coming in Like all that was very emotional,
Speaker 1: but it was like I've never been cheated on before.
Speaker 1: But I think what got me emotionally and why I
Speaker 1: connected with it so much is the fact that no
Speaker 1: relationship is perfect. And I felt like for the first
Speaker 1: time in my issue with Beyonce has always been she
Speaker 1: is so calculated. She is so put together. Every word,
Speaker 1: every session, every flip of her hair is planned. It
Speaker 1: felt like, and I'm you know, you don't see her
Speaker 1: raw or admitting mistakes as often at all, And so
Speaker 1: for me, it was like this perfect woman is being
Speaker 1: so vulnerable, is so raw and open. You know, if
Speaker 1: what she's singing is true, you know that actually happened,
Speaker 1: and it really seems like it did, like and that
Speaker 1: was just really touching for me, and it sort of
Speaker 1: gave me permission to not try and pretend like everything
Speaker 1: in my life is going one hundred percent when it's not.
Speaker 2: No. I think that's what touched me too, because you're right,
Speaker 2: Beyonce Solange has long since been considered the sister that
Speaker 2: is like just like opening real and vulnerable. You know,
Speaker 2: Solanjould be like what girl by, you know, but Beyonce
Speaker 2: was always so I don't know, just so well put together.
Speaker 2: She just seemed like nothing was ever wrong, like you said,
Speaker 2: And even after that whole like you know, them fighting
Speaker 2: in the elevator, she didn't come forth and say anything.
Speaker 2: And so for this to come out and for her
Speaker 2: to just be so open with sharing that, like, yo,
Speaker 2: stuff is not always perfect. There's times where I was
Speaker 2: gonna leave. I've been cheated on, and I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: I have cheated in my twenties. It was not a
Speaker 2: good good look. And so I could see both sides,
Speaker 2: and I'm just like a either way, it's just nice
Speaker 2: to see that she's showing women that, like, you know,
Speaker 2: things don't have to be perfect. Somebody wrote, I think
Speaker 2: I was watching like a BuzzFeed video. Someone was like,
Speaker 2: you know, she's weak, why would she stay? And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's just so easy for people to just make decisions,
Speaker 2: you know, or to judge based upon.
Speaker 1: This pert stupid. Did you watch anything have you? Beyonce
Speaker 1: is like the antithesis of weakness.
Speaker 3: Exactly, and honestly too, I just feel like everyone decides,
Speaker 3: everyone decides what they're willing to put up with and
Speaker 3: what they're not and to me, especially as you get older,
Speaker 3: I'm realizing there's no rhyme or reason.
Speaker 2: People just decide for themselves. And you know, there's plenty
Speaker 2: of my friends who are with guys who I'm like,
Speaker 2: if it was me, I probably wouldn't stay. But I'm
Speaker 2: sure plenty of my friends look at me and they're like, well,
Speaker 2: if it was me, I wouldn't stay. We all have
Speaker 2: our own stuff that we're willing to put up with,
Speaker 2: and I just think it's just for everyone to decide
Speaker 2: for themselves. It's not for me to judge you. To me,
Speaker 2: I always tell my sisters and friends, as long as
Speaker 2: he's not hurting you physically and like you know, emotionally
Speaker 2: and mentally, it's not my business. Like you know, I'm
Speaker 2: not here to judge me. I'm here to listen and
Speaker 2: be your friend. But now if you tell me that
Speaker 2: you know he punched me, he pushed me, then I'm like, girl,
Speaker 2: we're coming to get you, you know. But other than that,
Speaker 2: like my friends know that if you're like, oh, we
Speaker 2: got into an argument because I just didn't like the
Speaker 2: fact that I'm always doing the dishes and he doesn't help,
Speaker 2: and I'm not here to be like, girl leave them.
Speaker 2: You know everybody has a girl leaving friends.
Speaker 1: Oh that was me. Oh yeah, that was me and
Speaker 1: my like teens and twenties. I was so extreme, right,
Speaker 1: like you mean he was five minutes late?
Speaker 2: Why girl? But he wears blue on Tuesday? Mmm?
Speaker 1: Girl leave them?
Speaker 2: And so I learned, like you don't tell the girl
Speaker 2: leaving friend anything, and like I'm the friend who's always like, well,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you got just need to talk
Speaker 2: about it. You got your talk, you know, cause I'm like,
Speaker 2: been there, done that without anybody. Especially it's always the
Speaker 2: girl eaving friends sometimes that never has anybody, you.
Speaker 1: Know, because you expect too much out of out of
Speaker 1: one person.
Speaker 2: Exactly. They're not going to be perfect. Lord knows, I
Speaker 2: am not. Honey. I look at that mirror and I'm like, WHOA,
Speaker 2: thank you, superman, because i.
Speaker 1: Know that's what love is. And oh that song when
Speaker 1: you know what's I'm really about the words and lyrics.
Speaker 1: And it was really like fun for me because I
Speaker 1: studied literature in college and poetry and I haven't done
Speaker 1: that in a long time. But I sat down and
Speaker 1: I read the lyrics. I had the captions turned on
Speaker 1: so I can really understand what she was saying. And
Speaker 1: when I got out of it wasn't just that jay
Speaker 1: Z cheated or whoever she's talking about cheated, but it
Speaker 1: was about the like the difference in power, about how
Speaker 1: he was intimidated. And also there was a part where
Speaker 1: she talks about how he didn't think that he deserved
Speaker 1: to have something work out for him in life, and
Speaker 1: that really touched me and I and towards the end,
Speaker 1: you know, she talks about being well. This part was
Speaker 1: the poetry, Oh who was a poet? Worse on the
Speaker 1: Somali poet? Who the who? Did all the interludes, Beyonce
Speaker 1: read her poetry in between every song. There's one line
Speaker 1: in her poetry. First of all, that poetry is beautiful
Speaker 1: and I never heard of her before. There's one part
Speaker 1: where she's talking about I'm the mother of your children,
Speaker 1: living and dead, and I was thinking, that's right, Beyonce
Speaker 1: had a miscarriage, Yeah, wow, and another hello, I'm human
Speaker 1: moment and I thought it was beautiful. And I don't
Speaker 1: think we'll ever hear Beyonce, Like, I don't think she'll
Speaker 1: write a memoir. She's not going to go on the
Speaker 1: own network Super Soul Sunday and talk about Lemonade. I
Speaker 1: think she's leaving everything in the music like she has
Speaker 1: only now she's saying more than she ever has through
Speaker 1: the music. And I feel kind of like proud of
Speaker 1: her in a way for growing up.
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah that's how I felt too. I thought like, wow,
Speaker 2: this is very womanish, you know, of her. And I
Speaker 2: just love the fact that a lot of the stuff
Speaker 2: that people were saying for years and she kind of ignored.
Speaker 2: She addressed like her clearly.
Speaker 1: Pregnant with blue Yes, yes exactly.
Speaker 2: I mean like you could see her face, her nose,
Speaker 2: her boobs or something like there's not a prosthetic, but people,
Speaker 2: you know, like just like addressing those things like girlh bye,
Speaker 2: like just.
Speaker 1: And shake out it in the music. In the music.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it, just even just addressing like you know,
Speaker 2: everybody knows that there's issues with her father, but like
Speaker 2: it's even like addressing that that.
Speaker 1: Song could have been called Daddy Issues. What was it
Speaker 1: called daddy? That was the country one Daddy lessons?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what you can't when it's someone's personal
Speaker 1: story like that and they're sharing it and they're being vulnerable.
Speaker 1: You can't you almost can't even judge it. It's like
Speaker 1: this is her personal story, it's her interpretation she put
Speaker 1: her I mean this took so much work, every thought,
Speaker 1: every detail, you know that that was. It makes me
Speaker 1: feel like, what have I done lately?
Speaker 2: Well have you?
Speaker 1: I have? I've barely gone to the gym today, Like.
Speaker 2: Oh, you'd be proud of me. And this is like random,
Speaker 2: but I'm like, I've been walking like two or three
Speaker 2: miles a day.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, do you go uh with Superman? Or is
Speaker 1: it like a solo thing?
Speaker 2: So honestly, I've just been using It's almost like meditation.
Speaker 2: I forgot how much I like to walk, so I've
Speaker 2: just been now. It makes me want to get a fitbit,
Speaker 2: but I just use like the Nike app on my phone.
Speaker 1: If you could a fitbit. You just seemed to be prepared.
Speaker 1: Because I'll add you as a friend and I get
Speaker 1: really competitive.
Speaker 2: Are you gonna say you're like the way you said?
Speaker 2: He said if you get a fit bit, you see
Speaker 2: that dot dot dot probably Like I'm.
Speaker 1: Just letting you know because you can challenge people.
Speaker 2: I know, But you know you don't want this though,
Speaker 2: because it ain't nothing for me to walk like four
Speaker 2: miles in a day. It's nothing. Okay, I got it.
Speaker 2: We could do this, now, we could.
Speaker 1: You don't mean that's only eight thousand steps. You gotta Oh, okay,
Speaker 1: you know what. My dad actually been kicking my buttlt
Speaker 1: my fifbit broke, so I've been out of the game
Speaker 1: for about a week. But uh, you know, when I'm
Speaker 1: on my when I was at the height of my
Speaker 1: fitbit rain, I was doing like twenty five thirty thousand
Speaker 1: steps a day, which means I was walking everywhere, no trains,
Speaker 1: and then running after work and then going on elliptical
Speaker 1: before work. And I was only because my friend Diana,
Speaker 1: if she's listening out there, because she was like training
Speaker 1: for a half marathon, and I got really I got
Speaker 1: in this like tunnel vision insane competitive zone. It wasn't
Speaker 1: a healthy place. I don't recommend it. I was like,
Speaker 1: can sing.
Speaker 2: But it's just like you know, if my sister calls
Speaker 2: it stacking, and I've started to just like implement this
Speaker 2: in my life that like you know, when you want
Speaker 2: to make a transition and you're like, oh, I want
Speaker 2: to eat my exercise this and that She's like no,
Speaker 2: don't do it all at one time. You're never gonna
Speaker 2: keep up. She's like, just stacked, just say, you know what,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have a salad like you know, like once
Speaker 2: a day or whatever. And then once you do that
Speaker 2: for a few weeks and you're like, you know, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna have a salad and I'm gonna go for a
Speaker 2: walk because the salad becomes normal. And then you just
Speaker 2: start walking and then you're like, Okay, the walking is normal,
Speaker 2: the salad is normal. Well, let me add on yoga
Speaker 2: in the morning. And so now I've stacked about four things,
Speaker 2: like I'm eating better. The eating came first, then I
Speaker 2: got the personal trainer, had her for a while. Now
Speaker 2: I'm walking and I just added yoga. So four things
Speaker 2: that I normally, if I would have done them all
Speaker 2: at once, I would not be able to keep up.
Speaker 2: But because I stacked them and reach the place where
Speaker 2: like one of the blocks in my stack was normal
Speaker 2: before I added another block, I'm like, y'all feel so good.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, Tidney, Yeah, you're like totally adulting.
Speaker 1: Did you read that book The Power of Habit?
Speaker 2: No? Is it good?
Speaker 1: It's kind of about that. Yeah, it's all about how
Speaker 1: you build habits, how some people are able to break
Speaker 1: bad habits and then replace them with good habits. It's
Speaker 1: really good. It's written by Charles Dowig. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I'm saying, all right, du higg. And it came
Speaker 1: out only a few years ago and it was a
Speaker 1: big hit. It's like got a Yellow Book cover. I
Speaker 1: recommend it. It's good.
Speaker 2: It's we need to go back to recommending books again.
Speaker 2: That's a good one. The Power of Habits.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, we haven't even talked about this was a
Speaker 1: big week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's sad.
Speaker 1: There is highs and lows. High being Lemonade high, Harriet
Speaker 1: Tubman and her place on the twenty dollar bill, which
Speaker 1: I thought was awesome. What I didn't think was awesome
Speaker 1: is like, so not the entire bill, like the back
Speaker 1: of it, She's not going to be on or something
Speaker 1: like that was happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also too, I thought it was weird because
Speaker 2: it's not going to come out for like another like
Speaker 2: seventeen years, isn't it like what thirty? Yeah, somebody was
Speaker 2: like telling me. I was like, let me google, let
Speaker 2: me see the Googles. So I don't quote me, but
Speaker 2: it's not something that's happening right away.
Speaker 1: Is that because it takes so long to get the
Speaker 1: current twenties out of circulation or something?
Speaker 2: I don't even know. I was just like, wait, they
Speaker 2: didn't tell us all these things, so I said, let
Speaker 2: me get to googling before I say for sure. But
Speaker 2: from what I remember, like having a chit chat about
Speaker 2: with someone, they were like, it's not happening right away.
Speaker 1: Well, I see it says in the Washington in the
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal. It'll be could be in circulation as
Speaker 1: soon as twenty twenty. Okay, well that's not so so yeah,
Speaker 1: not so bad. It'll be here. The fact that it's
Speaker 1: even happening is maja exactly, Maychel, maycha?
Speaker 2: And then did you see the poor means of like
Speaker 2: the young girl who it's like some young girl from Disney.
Speaker 2: It's a young brown girl. I forget her name, but
Speaker 2: they put her face on Harriet Tuban's face on Fire
Speaker 2: Tubmans sitting like in her picture her Like if there's
Speaker 2: like two pictures of Harriet Tubban like floating, you know,
Speaker 2: there's one of her standing and there's one of her sitting,
Speaker 2: and her face is hilarious. And it says, well, master
Speaker 2: thinks she's gonna bring his dinner, but you out tonight
Speaker 2: with Harriet. Ah. I was like, yo, the memes they
Speaker 2: kill me.
Speaker 1: One that I saw was where it's like you're gonna
Speaker 1: have a really hard time spending like thirty bucks on
Speaker 1: that new top when you have Harriet say it looking
Speaker 1: at you saying you don't need that top.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's like it like goes closer than Harry at
Speaker 2: like closer closer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, And they're describe they.
Speaker 2: Have a picture of like Harry, like her pictures being taken.
Speaker 2: She's like standing and they're like on top of said
Speaker 2: Harriet says, how do I look? And the photographer says
Speaker 2: like money. Oh, these memes are everything. Honestly, memes are
Speaker 2: like memes make me happy. Like if I'm having a
Speaker 2: bad day, I'll just take like a mean break and
Speaker 2: like just make myself happy and giggle again.
Speaker 1: That's how I feel about Guess how gifts they make you?
Speaker 1: How did I even communicate before gifts? I don't understand. No,
Speaker 1: I replied to emails with like, just gifts and they
Speaker 1: get so many emotions across. I don't like if a
Speaker 1: picture says a thousand words. A meme says a million.
Speaker 1: All right, we have to talk about Prince real quick.
Speaker 1: This is a very like music themed it is buzzworthy.
Speaker 1: Prince passed away this week. Yeah, my father is still
Speaker 1: in mourning.
Speaker 2: Did they ever I remember? I know more and more
Speaker 2: details are coming. I know they just cremated his body.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's the autopsy was done, but they're not going
Speaker 1: to have like toxicology results for a couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: a few weeks, I think. Okay, but it's just also sad,
Speaker 1: you know, it's I saw somebody there was speaking of memes,
Speaker 1: there was one about like how someone put someone wrap
Speaker 1: Stevie Wonder and bubble wrap because he's the last one
Speaker 1: we have. I thought that was kind of sexist, because
Speaker 1: there's other amazing female like classic female singers from the
Speaker 1: past that we still have a living Yeah, Aretha, we
Speaker 1: still have Pylo Bell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I love what is her name, Anita Baker?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's my favorites.
Speaker 1: And I love Diana Ross. Like I mean, there's some
Speaker 1: great women still in power. But yeah, it was it
Speaker 1: was pretty devastating, and there's not many, you know, my
Speaker 1: entire newsroom. We were all just like it was right
Speaker 1: during lunch when we heard and it was just on
Speaker 1: TMZ at that point, and everyone just like dropped what
Speaker 1: they were eating and we were like, what is happening?
Speaker 1: What is life? I call my dad and he said,
Speaker 1: you know, He's like, okay, I'll call you back later.
Speaker 1: He was really upset. And then I called him later
Speaker 1: and he's like, it's okay, I still have you and
Speaker 1: your little brother. I was like like Prince was his
Speaker 1: third child or something like that. That's how much he
Speaker 1: loved him.
Speaker 2: Ah.
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, my dad like every Christmas, my dad would
Speaker 1: have us sit down and watch since the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: since Prince did the halftime show, when was that two
Speaker 1: thousand and I don't know, like ten was it? Has
Speaker 1: it been ten years since he did the Super Bowl? Anyway,
Speaker 1: my dad had that on DHS and he made us
Speaker 1: watch it. But then before that, we would watch Purple
Speaker 1: Rain and he had Michael Jackson's Bad Tour and he
Speaker 1: had Michael and Prince's Tour on VHS and we would
Speaker 1: watch that like every holiday. Oh, I know, so it's
Speaker 1: special and we're actually we had already planned on dancing
Speaker 1: to a print song for our father daughter dance. So
Speaker 1: now I'll even be more like he thought he's going
Speaker 1: to be a mess. He's going to be a mess.
Speaker 2: Oh between Prince and just giving you away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my dad and emotions. I told you when my
Speaker 1: fiance proposed to me and he called my dad for
Speaker 1: permission the day before, and my dad like hung up
Speaker 1: on him because he couldn't understand, Like he couldn't he
Speaker 1: couldn't like metabolize the feels that he was feeling. He's
Speaker 1: just like, I gotta call you back. And eight hours
Speaker 1: later he finally called back.
Speaker 2: That's okay. Your dad is like, so what you're taking
Speaker 2: my daughter aware?
Speaker 1: No, you know, he's just he doesn't Some people just
Speaker 1: don't know how to like process emotions.
Speaker 2: It's okay now that it's cute, and you know, because
Speaker 2: so many daughters don't necessarily have their dads in their
Speaker 2: life or like, you know, really.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, you know what all this is happening.
Speaker 1: You know, yesterday, well, Prince dying was one thing, but
Speaker 1: yesterday I found out one of my friends who I
Speaker 1: I did a lot of Hurricane Katrina relief when I
Speaker 1: was in college, and it was a big part of
Speaker 1: like I have a lot of friendships from that experience.
Speaker 1: And one of the guys that I was friends with
Speaker 1: but I fell out of touch with recently passed away
Speaker 1: yesterday and we all kind of found out he died
Speaker 1: from cancer. And it's always moments like that where I'm like, oh, dang,
Speaker 1: it's like, so we should just be lucky that we're
Speaker 1: just you know here, Yeah, you know, I wud get
Speaker 1: to live and beautiful day outside. I have friends and
Speaker 1: family and you know, just can't take any of that
Speaker 1: for granted.
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know. It was one of
Speaker 2: my friends was a photographer. I was following him on
Speaker 2: Instagram and he goes to India quite often. I think
Speaker 2: he's half Indian. So he had a picture of this
Speaker 2: little girl laughing and he said, ah, to feel joy
Speaker 2: like this, I mean you could. The joy was visceral,
Speaker 2: like you could see it leaping out of her face
Speaker 2: and her eyes and her you know, you ever see
Speaker 2: a kid like really like nothing has happened, but they're
Speaker 2: just like mid laugh. Yeah. Yeah. And I told myself,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm still looking. I'm trying to find that picture.
Speaker 2: I can't seem to find it because I want to
Speaker 2: put it on my cell phone from when I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know, like bitching about something unimportant to like look
Speaker 2: at this little girl and she's probably laughing at next
Speaker 2: like nothing, you know, a dog running across the street,
Speaker 2: maybe her brother comes into view or whatever, and just
Speaker 2: it brings this level of joy force from her, and
Speaker 2: I just want to I want to be like that
Speaker 2: more because I'm sure we were all like that as kids.
Speaker 2: And then you forget like that, all of these things
Speaker 2: that don't mean much start to like take over, and
Speaker 2: you're like, really, this is why you're pissed off because
Speaker 2: you know somebody in the email said this, like in
Speaker 2: this grand scheme of things, what does that even matter?
Speaker 1: Right? You grow up and you just tell yourself things
Speaker 1: matter that don't really matter. You need things that you
Speaker 1: don't really need.
Speaker 2: Exactly, or just like yeah in the end, or even
Speaker 2: I try to tell myself if someone says something negative
Speaker 2: about me, I'm like, well, I guarantee you to me,
Speaker 2: there are people saying negative stuff about you that you
Speaker 2: just never found out, So either way it don't matter.
Speaker 2: You know, it's just like now you just know that
Speaker 2: this person said it, but you didn't know yesterday you
Speaker 2: were fine, so girl, keep living?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what do you mean to make lemonade out
Speaker 1: of lemons? Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 2: Yes, I think that we should definitely name this week's
Speaker 2: episode Lemonade lemonade Lemonada.
Speaker 1: I don't know why it took me so long to
Speaker 1: get it. I was like, oh, I get it. She
Speaker 1: made a bad situation a good situation lemons and lemonade.
Speaker 1: I didn't get it until miss Hattie cout it.
Speaker 2: I had gotten it. I was like, oh, I figured
Speaker 2: because I was like, well lemonade, Well, you know what,
Speaker 2: the only the only kind of like thing I know
Speaker 2: when people talk about lemonade is you know, turning lemons
Speaker 2: from lemonade. So I figured that's what it was going
Speaker 2: to be about. But I didn't.
Speaker 1: I want to see, you're smarter than me. I was
Speaker 1: just like, wait, summertime lemonade. That sounds delicious.
Speaker 2: Well, first I didn't what was going on. People are like,
Speaker 2: Lemonade's going to be on and I'm like, what does
Speaker 2: that even mean? You might have gone and said, like barstool,
Speaker 2: we'd be on that. Like I didn't have any contacts,
Speaker 2: you know. Bet it doesn't explain herself She's like, look,
Speaker 2: either you watch barstool or you don't man any other
Speaker 2: buzzing thing tell them, but.
Speaker 1: Bye, no, I think I think we've we've expired or buzzworthy.
Speaker 2: That was it.
Speaker 1: We used it all on Beyonce and Harriet and Prince
Speaker 1: Oh oh wait, wait a second. On the opposite spectrum
Speaker 1: of black beauty and power. Did you see the viral
Speaker 1: Instagram posts that Little Kim posted? And I knew you
Speaker 1: were going to say that, what is happening?
Speaker 2: I don't know, honestly, somebody. First of all, my best
Speaker 2: friend texted to me, said, new phone. Who it is?
Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna lie. At first, I was like,
Speaker 2: why is she texting me? This random white woman? And
Speaker 2: I just looked at it, and I kept looking at
Speaker 2: it and I'm like wait. And then slowly it's like
Speaker 2: the realization started creeping up from my heart and I
Speaker 2: was like, please, don't.
Speaker 1: I had not seen it it was her, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have known it.
Speaker 2: Was her for real. What's going on?
Speaker 1: And it seems like it happened overnight. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I like, I pause before judging, because it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: she is her own person. If she wants to do that,
Speaker 1: then fine, but it you know, someone had a reference
Speaker 1: in earlier. She had an interview she had done like
Speaker 1: several years ago about how insecure she is and how
Speaker 1: a guy she was with had left her for a
Speaker 1: woman who you know, looked more European and she'd always
Speaker 1: be more you know, insecure about her looks. And it
Speaker 1: just made me sad. You know, it makes me sad
Speaker 1: that anyone would want to go to such great lengths
Speaker 1: to change the person they are.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I saw that too. I thought it was like
Speaker 2: the meme when they did that, and I was just like,
Speaker 2: oh man, yeah, honestly, it's just because Little Kim really
Speaker 2: was a pioneer. I mean she is, she's still here.
Speaker 2: She's a pioneer in hip hop. You know. She people
Speaker 2: women weren't speaking out sexually in like lyrics and hip hop,
Speaker 2: you know, and not to say, I mean whether that's
Speaker 2: good or bad. The fact that she did it, you know,
Speaker 2: there would be no Nicki Minaj, there would be no
Speaker 2: basically all these other new young rappers, Trina, all of them,
Speaker 2: like she made it cool, funky, okay to be aggressive
Speaker 2: like men on you know, just albums and songs and
Speaker 2: just to see that like all of that women empowerment
Speaker 2: talk just to see it look like this and you wonder, like, ah, man,
Speaker 2: like she honest see there's a video of her talking
Speaker 2: and her face is not even like moving. It looks
Speaker 2: like it's just straight plastic.
Speaker 1: Who looks painful. Yeah, I hope she find someone who
Speaker 1: loves her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for who she is by now.
Speaker 1: So it makes you want to makes me want to
Speaker 1: go hugg a little girl somewhere.
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, brown beauty, you know you're beautiful, right,
Speaker 2: That's why we always tell supergirls so beautiful. But sometimes
Speaker 2: you got to slow up because Supergirl is singing Supergirls
Speaker 2: like Tippy. Everybody at school just loves me. You think
Speaker 2: it's because I'm so cute.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, you created a monster, and I'm like.
Speaker 2: You know what, we don't let you have that because
Speaker 2: Supergirl it's super chocolate ly. She's got like super beautiful
Speaker 2: kinky hair, and she's like a little bit chunky. And
Speaker 2: so I want Supergirl to just know that exactly how
Speaker 2: she is is exactly how she ought to be.
Speaker 1: I don't just how her watch Lemonade.
Speaker 2: Exactly well, and I don't know about all that she
Speaker 2: already first, I don't know. Let me. Just before Supergirl
Speaker 2: had to do a report for Black History, they told
Speaker 2: them to pick somebody from history that's inspiring. People pick
Speaker 2: Harry Tupman, Martin Luther King, and like they had to
Speaker 2: do a presentation. This girl picked Beyonce. Yeah, and that
Speaker 2: had the nerve to do a visual representation like a
Speaker 2: little dance. Everybody else has like a little poster this
Speaker 2: is King, this is such and such. No, Supergirl got
Speaker 2: up there and sang like one of Beyonce's songs with
Speaker 2: a little shimmy. It was like her mother didn't even
Speaker 2: know it was came to like see her presentation. Was like, girl,
Speaker 2: I'm in the audience, like I know, my baby's not
Speaker 2: up here with the outside you know what. I love it.
Speaker 2: I was like, she's like what she is at Black History.
Speaker 1: That's true, that's true. Yes, Brown, I'm trying to figure
Speaker 1: out if I should be positive or not positive this week,
Speaker 1: positive or not positive?
Speaker 2: Taking a brown break?
Speaker 1: Oh you are?
Speaker 2: Yeah. So this morning I woke up at six am,
Speaker 2: and not because I wanted to, but because the same kids,
Speaker 2: three kids every single morning and from six to seven
Speaker 2: are outside screaming their lungs out because their grandma apparently
Speaker 2: every single morning at six am puts them out and
Speaker 2: makes them wait for the bus. She puts them out
Speaker 2: like an hour early. I guess yes, and they play
Speaker 2: in the front, and you know, they're kids, so they're
Speaker 2: just like just obnoxiously loud. They range from age like
Speaker 2: six to nine, you know, so all you hear at
Speaker 2: six am is now and you're like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: and you're like, what should I do because you know
Speaker 2: I've opened the window. I'm like, hey, guys, can't keep
Speaker 2: it down. And they're always really respectful Sien City, but
Speaker 2: they're kids. So after another five minutes, they're back to
Speaker 2: like giggling like little animals, and you're just like, we've
Speaker 2: spoken to grandma. Grandma's like, girl, don't I gonna care
Speaker 2: about your sleep? I'm getting mine.
Speaker 1: Really, she didn't care what no one doesn't care.
Speaker 2: So we're like, we can't shoot me. So I'm just
Speaker 2: taking a brown break from the giggle giggling kids outside
Speaker 2: my window every six am. I don't know what to
Speaker 2: do about it. I'm like, should I put in headphones? Earphones?
Speaker 2: Because Grandma's like I put them out for a reason,
Speaker 2: because so I don't have to hear their giggling.
Speaker 1: Sorry, my god's too early for all that.
Speaker 2: It is, honestly, And I'm like, so it is.
Speaker 1: That's the hard part of living in a city as
Speaker 1: you live all up on each other, so everyone's noise
Speaker 1: is your noise exactly.
Speaker 2: So I'm just trying to figure out, like what do
Speaker 2: we do.
Speaker 1: Like I heard a mom yesterday giving her son like
Speaker 1: the greatest lecture about how he was a thirty year
Speaker 1: old man and he needed to start paying rent. And
Speaker 1: I wanted to like get outside my window a clap
Speaker 1: for her. Oh my god, I could hear everything. It
Speaker 1: was like eleven in the morning. I mean, I'm just
Speaker 1: out just down the street, and her voice carried right
Speaker 1: up to the fourth floor.
Speaker 2: Yo, that is hilarious.
Speaker 1: It was great.
Speaker 2: I know you were like, wouldn't that be terrible? He
Speaker 2: would have been so embassed if you'd have been like,
Speaker 2: you tell them.
Speaker 1: I know that's part of the Like when I moved
Speaker 1: to New York, when I just taking the train home,
Speaker 1: we have an above ground train and I can see
Speaker 1: people laying out getting sun. I can see them walking
Speaker 1: their dogs, like the dogs lounging like it. She's just this.
Speaker 1: This city is like so big and you everyone lives
Speaker 1: in their own little world, but we're all living in
Speaker 1: each other's world and you can just it's beautiful. But
Speaker 1: then also kind of creepy it is because she's like,
Speaker 1: who's looking at me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, who's looking at you? Kids? So yeah, that's great.
Speaker 2: I'm roundbreaking from city noises, say that, so it's not
Speaker 2: I don't also sound terrible saying I'm brown breaking from kids.
Speaker 1: Well I have to do, you know, I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1: This could be a boost, it could also be a win.
Speaker 1: But I'm just going to call out. So the Pulitzer
Speaker 1: Prizes were announced last week, God has already been last week,
Speaker 1: the eighteenth of April, And there was two stories that
Speaker 1: I thought, first of all, how the heck did I
Speaker 1: not read this story when it first came out. I
Speaker 1: feel crazy for not doing that. But the prize this
Speaker 1: year for service journalism Public Service Award went to the
Speaker 1: Wash to the Associated Press, and they wrote a story
Speaker 1: about modern day slavery in Asia, where like people were
Speaker 1: treated like slaves and made to work and go fishing
Speaker 1: and fish the shrimp and the fish that we get
Speaker 1: in the grocery store, all that warm water fish from
Speaker 1: Asia and based on their report, they ended up leading
Speaker 1: to the freeing of two thousand slaves like modern day slaves.
Speaker 1: I I kind of get what Maybe I saw this
Speaker 1: headline and just kept going because I feel like you
Speaker 1: try and ignore the really terrible headlines every once in
Speaker 1: a while. But I think it's worth like it's just
Speaker 1: worth it to read it and not just to read
Speaker 1: it and feel the people's pain, like real people who
Speaker 1: were slaves in twenty sixteen, but then to also know
Speaker 1: that because of this writing this report that you know,
Speaker 1: hundreds and thousands of slaves were were freed, which was great.
Speaker 1: And another one to follow up with, I would say,
Speaker 1: the other story that I read, which I had not
Speaker 1: heard about, there was a woman in Afghanistan last year.
Speaker 1: Her name was Farkunda. And Farkunda you know, in Afghanistan,
Speaker 1: it's a very patriarchal society, I mean, incredibly religious. The
Speaker 1: Muslim faith is just like so intense there and it's
Speaker 1: considered one of the highest crimes to burn a koran. Right,
Speaker 1: so woman was falsely a falsely accused This woman named
Speaker 1: Farkunda falsely accused by a man of burning a Koran
Speaker 1: and from zoo to one hundred and like five minutes,
Speaker 1: She's being attacked by hundreds of men. She's being pummeled
Speaker 1: with stone, she's being stomped on. Police are there, and
Speaker 1: they're not even helping her. You know. She falls back
Speaker 1: into the crowd and they just kind of watch her
Speaker 1: as she's being mutilated by this entire crowd. And it's
Speaker 1: so hard to watch. I mean, I feel kind of bad,
Speaker 1: but I feel like it's it should be required viewing
Speaker 1: for anyone who you know, cares about women and women's
Speaker 1: rights to see a woman just like treated like this
Speaker 1: by men in broad daylight on cell phone cameras. No
Speaker 1: one was ever. I don't think to this day people
Speaker 1: have been sentenced for any crimes. I think a few
Speaker 1: people have stood trial, but I think they got a
Speaker 1: very lesser sentence than what it could have been. And
Speaker 1: she ended up dying. And this happened about a year ago,
Speaker 1: and the New York Times won the Pulitzer for a
Speaker 1: report they did on it in December. Anyway, it's just
Speaker 1: really harrowing and it is sad, and it will grip
Speaker 1: you by the throat and by the heart. But I
Speaker 1: think that we need to not turn a blind eye
Speaker 1: to that kind of suffering, and I just I recommend
Speaker 1: it and I thought that was just it's great to
Speaker 1: see what good journalism can do, because if not for
Speaker 1: this story, there's a chance you never would have known
Speaker 1: for Kunda's name, and there's not It's not just for Kunda.
Speaker 1: That's the thing, Like, this is one woman and there
Speaker 1: are so many other women around the world who are brutalized.
Speaker 1: I mean, we still haven't found those young girls in Nigeria.
Speaker 2: Exactly or just even like, did you see the story
Speaker 2: about uh who was so heartbreaking about the girls who
Speaker 2: got into a fight in the bathroom and they just
Speaker 2: I just was like, can you imagine that you send
Speaker 2: your daughter to school, she gets into a fight over
Speaker 2: a boy, and you know, I know the girls didn't
Speaker 2: mean to obviously take her life, because you don't think
Speaker 2: about that. You know, you're not thinking, hey, we're actually
Speaker 2: going to kill her, but they took her life.
Speaker 1: I'm sure somebody was there yelling world star hip hop.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thinking like it's nothing. And now the truth in
Speaker 2: matter is more than one girl died that day in
Speaker 2: the bathroom. How many of those girls' lives are now taken?
Speaker 2: You know, that they're going to be locked away for
Speaker 2: a very long time as a result of this one
Speaker 2: stupid fight over a boy. So now she is physically
Speaker 2: dead with now you've killed your future. You know that
Speaker 2: was a Yeah, it just.
Speaker 1: So I'll make that a brown break against women, violence
Speaker 1: against women by women, by men, by anybody. It's it's
Speaker 1: just it needs to stop, especially in schools. Yeah, all right, Well,
Speaker 1: that's sorry for the downer. I'll bring it back up
Speaker 1: by promise in the next segment.
Speaker 2: So, do we have a question.
Speaker 1: We have a question for today. I need to pull
Speaker 1: it up rock quick. It's a good question. It's about debt.
Speaker 1: And this was interesting to me because actually got a
Speaker 1: similar question from someone at at our Yahoo email earlier
Speaker 1: this week, and it's about what happens when your debt
Speaker 1: is charged off and what a charge off is. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to use her name because she doesn't say
Speaker 1: whether or not we can use it. We'll just call
Speaker 1: her Charlotte. Okay. So Charlotte says, I've been steadily working
Speaker 1: to improve my credit score over the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: and at the moment, I only have two true debts
Speaker 1: to worry about. A personal loan that I owed to
Speaker 1: my parents that's currently under one thousand dollars and another
Speaker 1: credit card or sorry, unfortunately, a private student loan that
Speaker 1: is in a closed derogatory status. It's been charged off
Speaker 1: on one of my credit reports. This debt has been
Speaker 1: charged off as a bad debt and transferred to a
Speaker 1: collections agency. In addition to getting a JAB, my focus
Speaker 1: is on how I should go about addressing this debt
Speaker 1: to better my credit score. I've read that I should
Speaker 1: wait until it falls off my credit report after seven years,
Speaker 1: which would be in twenty eighteen. Should I do this
Speaker 1: or is there something else I could do to address
Speaker 1: and somewhat resolve this matter on my credit report? Additionally,
Speaker 1: should I try and locate and reach out to the
Speaker 1: collection agency to make a repayment plan or try for settlement? Oh, Charlotte,
Speaker 1: this is the worst. I mean.
Speaker 2: So let's maybe left the tack of first, what is
Speaker 2: a charge?
Speaker 1: What's a charg job? So there's a couple of stages
Speaker 1: that your debt goes through when you stop making a
Speaker 1: payment on it. There's like the thirty day stage, which
Speaker 1: is when you probably get a call from your credit
Speaker 1: card company or your private student lender and they're like, hey,
Speaker 1: what's up. You missed a payment? Yeah, as a courtesy call.
Speaker 1: Then once it gets past one hundred and eighty days,
Speaker 1: that lender or that credit card company is going to
Speaker 1: look at your account and say, listen, this person hasn't
Speaker 1: paid in months. We're going to sell it to a
Speaker 1: debt collector and have them deal with it.
Speaker 2: So that's basically when they are basically when they've basically said,
Speaker 2: we're not getting our money. That's what a charge off
Speaker 2: is is like when they're just basically like, yeah, we're
Speaker 2: just kind of throwing our hands up. We're not going
Speaker 2: to get it. So we're just gonna, basically, like Mandy said,
Speaker 2: sell it to someone else now now that it's charged off.
Speaker 2: So what's really important right with the charge off is
Speaker 2: that you have to know that if they sell your
Speaker 2: debt to someone now, they don't own it. So a
Speaker 2: lot of people make this mistake. I've seen this. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you've seen this manny that people will
Speaker 2: owe Like let's just say they owe Sears and then
Speaker 2: Sears charges it off in solves it to Tom and them,
Speaker 2: and then people want to go back and pay Sears,
Speaker 2: but Sears doesn't own that debt anymore. Correct, Ye, And
Speaker 2: so if you pay sears, Now, this is what I've seen,
Speaker 2: which is terrible, and not that I'm not picking on sears.
Speaker 2: Won't call them sears, We'll just call it jeers. If
Speaker 2: you pay gears, jeers might actually take your money. But
Speaker 2: guess who used to? Oh the person they told it to.
Speaker 1: Oh does that really happened?
Speaker 2: Sometimes that's happened.
Speaker 1: Oh you can't do that, No, no, no, post it.
Speaker 2: But I've seen, especially like hospitals, I've seen that happen
Speaker 2: a lot, that people will pay the original creditor, the
Speaker 2: creditor will take the money, and then you find out
Speaker 2: that they weren't supposed to, and now you're fighting to
Speaker 2: get your money back because you're supposed to pay the
Speaker 2: person they sold it to.
Speaker 1: Oh, or don't do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The really horrible thing about, you know, having your debt
Speaker 1: charge off, is that it is going to go on
Speaker 1: your credit report. And at that point, it's not like
Speaker 1: I think. What I hear is people think, Okay, it's
Speaker 1: been charged off, so I don't have to deal with
Speaker 1: it anymore. Yeah you do. It's still on your credit report.
Speaker 1: You still owe the debt. In some states, there's a
Speaker 1: statute of limitations on how long the debt collector can
Speaker 1: wait to sue you for a debt, but it can
Speaker 1: be like ten years, so it's very likely you still
Speaker 1: owe that debt. They can still sue you for it
Speaker 1: and take you to court.
Speaker 2: In New Jersey, New York, I know it's six years.
Speaker 1: It's a six years okay, well in.
Speaker 2: New Jersey and New York. But you're right, it's Some
Speaker 2: states are ten, some states are four. But I don't
Speaker 2: know where Charlotte lives. But in New Jersey and New
Speaker 2: York it's six years that they have to sue you.
Speaker 2: But they have all these tricks that they do. So
Speaker 2: some of my friends work for debt election agencies. Hag
Speaker 2: her on. You know you're going to hell right anyway
Speaker 2: for them, But they schooled me into showing, well, this
Speaker 2: is what they'll do. So after six years of inactivity,
Speaker 2: meaning like you have not paid or you have not
Speaker 2: promised to pay, some debt collectors will do this. They'll
Speaker 2: actually make a dollar payment for you so they can
Speaker 2: start the clock all over again. Isn't that terrible? It
Speaker 2: is super shady, And she's like some of my friends
Speaker 2: who've told me, Like I said, who worked for debt
Speaker 2: collectors are like, so just be mindful that they have
Speaker 2: all these tricks to make sure that your statute of
Speaker 2: limitation never goes up. Because if they take you to
Speaker 2: court and win, they can garnish wages, they can do
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of stuff, like you know, they can
Speaker 2: actually petition your bank and say, hey, that money in
Speaker 2: her bank account. We kind of need some of that
Speaker 2: because we have this, we have this win from the
Speaker 2: courts that say that we're able to take some money.
Speaker 2: You just never know. So, but I will say this,
Speaker 2: if it's if she if seven years is twenty eighteen
Speaker 2: at this stage in the game, that sometimes paying old
Speaker 2: debt at this stage in the game is more harmful
Speaker 2: than good. So like, but explain, So here's why. Because
Speaker 2: so let's just say she said it was twenty twenty
Speaker 2: or whatever. I'm like, well, girl, deal with it. But
Speaker 2: now that basically in a year and a half, it's
Speaker 2: gonna fall off. So if she lives in New York
Speaker 2: and New Jersey, what that means in six months she's
Speaker 2: out of the suable range because that will be her
Speaker 2: six years and then after one more year, which is
Speaker 2: seven years, it should fall off. And so if she
Speaker 2: makes a payment now and honestly debt that's usually within
Speaker 2: the first two years, that's the debt that's really dragging
Speaker 2: your score down, that new debt. So if debt is
Speaker 2: five six years old and then so it's not affecting
Speaker 2: your credit, it's much because it's so old. If you
Speaker 2: make a payment on super old debt, you make it
Speaker 2: new again, so all of a sudden, that whole charge
Speaker 2: off is new again and starts to bring down your
Speaker 2: score more. I've seen a lot of people do that
Speaker 2: with old debt. Now, now there's like a moral moral
Speaker 2: quite compass that you kind of have to decide for yourself.
Speaker 2: But just know that if you're paying on old debt,
Speaker 2: you're making that old debt new and relevant, and it
Speaker 2: actually might do more harm than good. So just be
Speaker 2: mindful about paying a really old debt. All of my
Speaker 2: friends who are in like credit restoration always tell me
Speaker 2: that that you should focus on the new stuff first.
Speaker 2: Take care of that, because that's really the thing that's
Speaker 2: affecting your score, not that that's five six, seven years old.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll say, when it comes to like getting rid
Speaker 1: of a debt, I mean, let's say they're suing you,
Speaker 1: I mean, debt collectors can I mean, as long as
Speaker 1: it's still been as long as she's still within the
Speaker 1: statue limitations, she can. She's still a free game for
Speaker 1: them to sue her. And that can happen, especially with
Speaker 1: student loans. And if that comes the case you, settling
Speaker 1: is probably the best option. And settling is especially if
Speaker 1: the debt's been it's been years since you've paid, made
Speaker 1: a payment, and these debt collectors bought your debt for
Speaker 1: probably I mean definitely a lot less than what the
Speaker 1: original balance was owed, so they'll be willing to settle
Speaker 1: for you, probably for a lot less than the original balance,
Speaker 1: as long as you are ready with like a big
Speaker 1: lump sum payment right then and there. And I would
Speaker 1: recommend that, like if she does, if it does come
Speaker 1: down to her getting sued, or if she just wants
Speaker 1: to get rid of this, reach out to them, open
Speaker 1: a dialogue and see if they can, if they can
Speaker 1: come to an agreement on the settlement.
Speaker 2: I honestly I'm recommending to opposite becakay only because so
Speaker 2: if they have not reached out to you, meaning that now,
Speaker 2: if they're reaching out to you and they're talking to you,
Speaker 2: definitely have a conversation back.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm wondering, because she doesn't say that, and
Speaker 1: I find it really hard to believe that she hasn't
Speaker 1: gotten any information from them. She says, should I try
Speaker 1: and reach out to the collection agency.
Speaker 2: That means they're not reaching out to her. No, that
Speaker 2: happens often, so say like, for whatever reason, see yourselves
Speaker 2: as to Tom. Tom's sells it to Sarah, Sarah sells
Speaker 2: it to Marvin, and Marvin just doesn't get in around
Speaker 2: to calling you or by then, you've moved so many
Speaker 2: times they have not been able to place you a
Speaker 2: lot of times that that will happen debt collectors, debt
Speaker 2: will kind of die, and it's not that it dies,
Speaker 2: it becomes what they call zombie debt past a certain
Speaker 2: past the statute of limitations. So you know, we all
Speaker 2: watch Walking Dead. Zombies are like alive but dead. So
Speaker 2: it's like the debt is dead in that they cannot
Speaker 2: legally use the courts to try to distract extract that
Speaker 2: money from you. But technically do you still owe yes.
Speaker 2: So that's why I said I would if they're not
Speaker 2: contacting you, I would leave it, let it fall off,
Speaker 2: and I instead would work on your current financial situation,
Speaker 2: because that's really where like if you're paying your bills
Speaker 2: on time, how much debt you have right now, that's
Speaker 2: really where you're going to make the most difference.
Speaker 1: With your with the only house this personal loan to
Speaker 1: her parents. So if she could be focusing on this
Speaker 1: other debt, she could be I mean, and I guess
Speaker 1: another hypothetical situation is oh where did my train go?
Speaker 1: That you too just let the station like that go.
Speaker 2: Thought saying this is Mandy that it's even worse if
Speaker 2: she doesn't have the other day. So your credit in
Speaker 2: your credit score and your credit report, it's really an
Speaker 2: average of your activity. So if you are only taking
Speaker 2: one class in school, it's jim and you get a
Speaker 2: and Jim you have an AGPA, you get a D
Speaker 2: in GM, you have a DGPA. Right, So this one
Speaker 2: thing that she kind of has right now because it's old,
Speaker 2: even though she might have an f in it, it's
Speaker 2: not it's it's not as relevant as anything that she
Speaker 2: might do like moving forward. So like she might want
Speaker 2: to get a secured card or whatever it is. She
Speaker 2: might have student loans that she's paying off or whatever.
Speaker 2: But if she goes back and kind of hits up
Speaker 2: that old teacher and says, hey, what about that f
Speaker 2: I got he said, oh yeah, I forgot about that.
Speaker 2: Let's make it new and relevant again. So now all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, she doesn't have anything to balance out
Speaker 2: that as she has no other credit history. So now
Speaker 2: she's going to she's literally going to bring her score
Speaker 2: dramatically down because she's going to make something that because
Speaker 2: even paying it off is not gonna make it right
Speaker 2: for her, because she's still credit history is history meaning
Speaker 2: that you did not pay all of this time, that's
Speaker 2: not going to disappear just because you paid. Paying it
Speaker 2: honestly is not going to raise her score. Paying is
Speaker 2: actually going to lower her score because paying it off
Speaker 2: is not going to do anything other than make it
Speaker 2: new again to say, hey, this is a person who
Speaker 2: did not pay all this time. That's why I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: you want to just be mindful that, Yeah, you can
Speaker 2: pay it off, but it's not going to do anything
Speaker 2: for your score except for bringing down because you're making
Speaker 2: old history that's negative new and you don't have anything
Speaker 2: else to balance it out with. You don't have any
Speaker 2: other credit cards or any other things that you've done
Speaker 2: to show even though I messed up in this one place,
Speaker 2: I'm doing good over here. So it would just behoove her, like,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, to just get a secured card, start
Speaker 2: building credit history so you have other things on your credit.
Speaker 1: She could approve for that if she has this, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: six year old debt. That's my thing, Like secured card
Speaker 1: is one thing. But I mean she doesn't say this either,
Speaker 1: But if you're, you know, trying to get an apartment
Speaker 1: or you're trying to get a car loan and you
Speaker 1: have this debt on your credit report, you can get
Speaker 1: denied or get stuck with a super high interest rate.
Speaker 1: And I feel like in that case, showing that you've
Speaker 1: made a good faith effort to start repaying on it
Speaker 1: would be.
Speaker 2: Better, I guess, I mean, or showing that like you
Speaker 2: know what what security cause. Remember the purpose of secured
Speaker 2: card is to give credit to folks who otherwise would
Speaker 2: be left out of the credit system. So you don't
Speaker 2: have to have like a great credit score in order
Speaker 2: to get a security card. You know, that's the purpose.
Speaker 2: So I would at least look into it, see like well,
Speaker 2: what's the lowest score that I'm able to? Go to
Speaker 2: your bank or your credit union. That's the best place
Speaker 2: to look for a secured card and ask, or if
Speaker 2: you can't, if your bank or your credit union does
Speaker 2: it offer secured cards, go to magnify Money. They've got
Speaker 2: a great list of secured cards and see, like, well
Speaker 2: what I could What I love to about Magnifying Money
Speaker 2: is that you can put in your information, like your
Speaker 2: credit score and stuff. And what they'll do is they
Speaker 2: will they will say, yeah, you're likely to be approved
Speaker 2: or you know, you're not likely. So I would work
Speaker 2: on building you know, your credit up versus like you know,
Speaker 2: dredging up the Also just because if you're if you're
Speaker 2: I don't know what her credit score is. But so
Speaker 2: let's just say, like because when I was a landlord,
Speaker 2: I would look at your credit score, not necessarily your
Speaker 2: credit report. So if your credit score is uh, you know,
Speaker 2: your credit score is decent, then you know, I'm just
Speaker 2: trying to think of like my train of thought. So
Speaker 2: if your credit score, if her credit score is only okay,
Speaker 2: she can bring it up further by by you know,
Speaker 2: getting a secured card and raising her credit.
Speaker 1: Score yeah, that would be a process too, because almost
Speaker 1: you have to make payments every month and after a
Speaker 1: year though, well offer you the line of credit.
Speaker 2: After a few months, like for example, Superman had a
Speaker 2: secured card. Superman had a secure card and he after
Speaker 2: three months he was able to bring his score up
Speaker 2: about a hundred points because that when he only had
Speaker 2: the security card. And that's what we talked about, like
Speaker 2: credit is an average. So because he didn't have a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of different credit like you know, accounts open,
Speaker 2: he had that one secured card, so all he had
Speaker 2: to do was do right by that one card. And
Speaker 2: when I met him, he was like in the low
Speaker 2: six hundreds. And just just this morning he woke up,
Speaker 2: he was like, babe, my credit score is seven sixty,
Speaker 2: so that's been like in a year. But honestly he
Speaker 2: jumped up to like a I say a seven to
Speaker 2: twenty after a few months. So secure cars can work
Speaker 2: fairly quickly if you don't have a lot of credit
Speaker 2: under your belt, you know, so as a tool, yeah,
Speaker 2: they are as good as a tool. So honestly, she's
Speaker 2: in a great position. If you don't have a lot
Speaker 2: of credit accounts, then opening up one good one is
Speaker 2: going to do a world of good, but having one
Speaker 2: bad one is going to do a world of bad.
Speaker 2: So because like I said, it's an average, So the
Speaker 2: smaller amount that you have, the more each individual account
Speaker 2: it's going to have a different make a difference.
Speaker 1: I agree with that for sure. All Right, miss Charlotte,
Speaker 1: good luck.
Speaker 2: Yes, I know she's like, but so wait, what am
Speaker 2: I supposed to do? I'm like, girl, I don't know,
Speaker 2: just according to Mandy, Mandy said, hey, reach out in
Speaker 2: a paid off. According to me, I'm like, girl, if
Speaker 2: they're not calling, you, don't call them. Go get yourself
Speaker 2: a security card and make your life right. So you
Speaker 2: have to make a decision either way.
Speaker 1: I'm really surprised that if they're not harassing her like
Speaker 1: they typically do, I'd be surprised. But I guess when
Speaker 1: you're a student, it's a lot heard from the track
Speaker 1: you because you don't have, like you probably don't have,
Speaker 1: you know, your own house and in a permanent address
Speaker 1: room to come find you, so you're kind of like
Speaker 1: trickier to track down. Yeah, but I do worry that,
Speaker 1: you know, they'll just wake up and smell the roses
Speaker 1: next year, right before her deadline and be like, ah,
Speaker 1: here's a lawsuit.
Speaker 2: Well, usually what they'll do is they'll like they'll reach
Speaker 2: out to you and just say like, hey, we want
Speaker 2: to collect money. Hey with it's usually if you ignore that,
Speaker 2: hey we want to collect money, that's here's a lawsuit.
Speaker 2: So if they do reach out, then yes, work out
Speaker 2: a settlement. But if they don't, like I stone tell.
Speaker 1: Them to stop calling you. That's one thing people don't understand.
Speaker 1: You can. You can the I'll post a link to this,
Speaker 1: so check the website brownvisionpodcast dot com. I'll post a
Speaker 1: link to the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau. They have all
Speaker 1: these like form letters, like they write the letters for you.
Speaker 1: All you have to do is put your name, insert
Speaker 1: your name, and insert the deck collector's name, and you
Speaker 1: can send them a season deslist letter saying, you know,
Speaker 1: please stop talking, stop calling me, or call me on
Speaker 1: these hours, or only email me. Don't call me, or
Speaker 1: only send me letters. Don't email me or call me
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. You can totally do that. It
Speaker 1: won't erase your debt, but it'll get them out if
Speaker 1: you're you know, off your back. And that's why it's
Speaker 1: why to get rid of.
Speaker 2: Them because I remember I couldn't pay my mortgage at
Speaker 2: one point during the high of the recession, and I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my gosh, I'm not going to do
Speaker 2: and they were Chase Bank was he rap sing me?
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. I was like, is this ex boyfriend?
Speaker 1: And it probably weren't alone either.
Speaker 2: No, And so I sent them a sea I backed
Speaker 2: up a seasoned assist letter, and it worked like a charm. Yeah, hello, yeah,
Speaker 2: can you hear me?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh you cut out for a bit. You said
Speaker 1: it worked, Yeah, it worked like a charm.
Speaker 2: I sent up a seasoned desist letter and it worked
Speaker 2: like a charm.
Speaker 1: I oh good, okay, yeah, I miss Charlotte.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let us know how it goes either way.
Speaker 1: Either way, just do whatever you know what, what can
Speaker 1: help you sleep at night. Mandy's got a heavy conscious,
Speaker 1: she likes to she's sassy.
Speaker 2: So what's up next? What do we have now? Some wins?
Speaker 1: We haven't done wins for a little while. I know
Speaker 1: I'm going to do a book for my win.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're going to do a book. I'm like, what
Speaker 2: is Okay, you go first, I will go first.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to recommend this book it's not necessarily
Speaker 1: a self help, I'm going to make you better at
Speaker 1: your career book, but it's a really good novel and
Speaker 1: it's actually about to get made into a TV show
Speaker 1: on the Own network. The novels called Queen Sugar, and
Speaker 1: it's about an African American mom of a daughter who's
Speaker 1: like eleven years old, who she's widowed in her thirties,
Speaker 1: very young, and she inherits a sugar cane farm duh
Speaker 1: from her dad in Louisiana, and so she decides to
Speaker 1: sell everything, pack up, and she's like down on her
Speaker 1: luck anyway, so she decides she wants a fresh start,
Speaker 1: so she moves back home to Louisiana to run a
Speaker 1: sugar cane farm, and of course she has no idea
Speaker 1: how to do it, and she has a brother who's
Speaker 1: trying to fight her for the inheritance, and her farm
Speaker 1: manager quits on her, and she has to like pull
Speaker 1: herselves up by the proverbial bootstraps and like figure out
Speaker 1: how to do sugar cane farming in a year. And
Speaker 1: I love the novel. I thought it was really good,
Speaker 1: and I'm so excited because it's going to be a
Speaker 1: show and guess who's directing it, Ava DuVernay. You're gonna
Speaker 1: say that I love her and then also her and
Speaker 1: starring is going to be routine Wesley, who was Tara
Speaker 1: and True Blood? Did you watch True Blood?
Speaker 2: I did a little bit.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of embarrassed I watched True Blood because that
Speaker 1: was like a really terrible show. But Routina Wesley was
Speaker 1: on that and she was amazing, and I just like,
Speaker 1: as soon as I knew it was her, I just
Speaker 1: pictured her the entire time I was reading the book.
Speaker 1: And it's so good. There's a little love, there's a
Speaker 1: little South uh Louisiana charm, which I love, and I
Speaker 1: think it's if you've ever, you know, been up against
Speaker 1: an impossible task in your life, this is the book
Speaker 1: that you should read.
Speaker 2: Ooh, I know, my win And that's actually sounds like
Speaker 2: a really great book to read. I love. I love
Speaker 2: a good book, especially like in the park, like on
Speaker 2: a blanket. What I see such a to be somewher.
Speaker 2: I know, I can't wait. I'm honestly, I'm such a geek.
Speaker 2: So I'm excited because I have like a thirty dollars
Speaker 2: gift certificate the target that somebody gave me and I
Speaker 2: am going to buy like a beach chair. So that way,
Speaker 2: there's times when I want to do work in the
Speaker 2: park because I have like a little it's called like
Speaker 2: a jet pack, which is it looks like a little pager,
Speaker 2: but basically it's like poort of internet, so I can
Speaker 2: take the Internet with me wherever I go. Because I
Speaker 2: was able. I went to Rison the other day to
Speaker 2: get like a new upgrade on my phone since I
Speaker 2: was like, way ver do and they were like, you
Speaker 2: can do buy one getting free and normally I'm like, whoa,
Speaker 2: what do I need with the free one? Like you know,
Speaker 2: but at the time Superman was like ooh ooh, I
Speaker 2: want a phone, and I was like, okay, well leave
Speaker 2: your old service, come over to mine, pay your same bill,
Speaker 2: and they gave us like all this great like data,
Speaker 2: and so I have a ton of data and I
Speaker 2: got a jetpack. I got my new phone, the Galaxy
Speaker 2: seven S Edge. You guess get into it. You know,
Speaker 2: you're jelly, and so do he. And as a result,
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh now, whenever I'm like out and whenever
Speaker 2: I have like my like little mac fook air with me,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I take out my little jetpack, and so
Speaker 2: I was like, ooh, I want to start doing work
Speaker 2: in the park and make the park my office this summer.
Speaker 2: And so I was like, I'm going to get myself
Speaker 2: a little spot. Yeah, and I'm going to get myself
Speaker 2: a little chair to take with me so I can
Speaker 2: just sit in the park and just you know, listen
Speaker 2: to my just read a book or do work. But
Speaker 2: like we're at someplace pretty protect, I'm trying. I just
Speaker 2: have a win. What was my win? What was my win?
Speaker 2: I just had?
Speaker 1: It was on the top of my Your wind cannot
Speaker 1: be a Target gift card. Although that is kind of
Speaker 1: a win.
Speaker 2: No, it's not. It wasn't. It was a good win
Speaker 2: and I forgot well, instead of a win, can I
Speaker 2: suggest a book?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: All right, so this is then holy book GUDDI. So hey, guys,
Speaker 2: so I we're still here. I don't have a win
Speaker 2: this week, but I do have a book suggestion. And
Speaker 2: I know it's going to be kind of weird because
Speaker 2: it's totally not a new book. But somebody said something
Speaker 2: on Facebook or something, and it reminded me of how
Speaker 2: much I love this book. It's one of my favorites.
Speaker 2: It's their Eyes Were Watching God by Zora near Hurston Classic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in like eighth grade.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, But honestly, it's one of those books that, like.
Speaker 1: I should read it again as a grown up, Yes.
Speaker 2: You know, because it's just I read it. I think
Speaker 2: I don't remember. I think I read it like in
Speaker 2: high school something like that, Like somehow I stumbled across
Speaker 2: it in the library and just started reading it and
Speaker 2: then never stop. And it's one of my favorite books.
Speaker 2: And if you are really into language being beautifully arranged,
Speaker 2: it is like the epitome of that, and I am.
Speaker 2: I just love when, like I love poetry, it's to
Speaker 2: write poetry. I love when language is just beautifully arranged
Speaker 2: because we all get similar words and yet some people
Speaker 2: arrange them in such a way that's literally like a
Speaker 2: flower blooming. See what I did there?
Speaker 1: So yeah, so that's that here for it.
Speaker 2: That's not so much a win, but just the book
Speaker 2: suggestion that if you're looking to kind of read about
Speaker 2: a love story, but to read about it in such
Speaker 2: a beautiful way, I would suggestor and their Heirstmon, their
Speaker 2: Eyes were Watching God.
Speaker 1: I feel like we read those books, but I didn't
Speaker 1: really appreciate them as a young woman like I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: I just want to read the cliffs notes. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: should read them as a grown up, for sure.
Speaker 2: That's a good sure. Yeah, like a Raisin in the Sun,
Speaker 2: all those type of books.
Speaker 1: Invisible Man. That was a good one.
Speaker 2: That was a good one too.
Speaker 1: All right, that's all we happened this week.
Speaker 2: Yes, we will see you next week.
Speaker 1: We had some really good questions, so we'll save some
Speaker 1: for the next couple of weeks. But you can always
Speaker 1: email us at Brown Ambition Podcast at gmail dot com.
Speaker 2: Yes, and fine us on Twitter at the BA podcast
Speaker 2: and we are Brown Ambition on the Facebook.
Speaker 1: Yes, maam, all right, happy week. Go you know, recover
Speaker 1: from the lemonade. It sounds like I need to recover.
Speaker 1: You took it very well. You're just handling it. I'm
Speaker 1: a the mess.
Speaker 2: All right, talk to you next week.
Speaker 1: Get your four thousand steps in.
Speaker 2: Oh, don't come for me because you don't want this.
Speaker 1: Did that sound competitive?
Speaker 2: Yes, that's all right.
Speaker 1: That's trying to be supported.
Speaker 2: Bye Mandy, Bye bye.