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Speaker 2: How you feel about the likelihood of a shutdown or
Speaker 2: the progress being made on this ICE reform issue probably
Speaker 2: depends on who you ask on Capitol Hill. So we're
Speaker 2: going to ask someone there right now joining us, I'm
Speaker 2: pleased to say live from the House is Republican Congressman
Speaker 2: Brian Style of Wisconsin. He, of course, is the chair
Speaker 2: of the House Administration Committee. Welcome back to Bloomberg TV
Speaker 2: and Radio. Sarah, It's good to see you. It's been
Speaker 2: a while since we've talked. As you just heard Tyler say,
Speaker 2: it seems that there is still a bit of daylight
Speaker 2: between Republicans and Democrats on what reforms both can actually
Speaker 2: get behind. Sir, what would you be willing to accept.
Speaker 1: Kelly, Welcome back. Here we are again Democrats threatening your shutdown,
Speaker 1: in this time a portion of the federal government if
Speaker 1: they don't get their way. I think what we need
Speaker 1: to do is have cooler heads prevail. The Department of
Speaker 1: Homeland Security is an essential agency that covers not only ICE,
Speaker 1: but also Coast Guard, TSA, and other essential federal government programs,
Speaker 1: and so the threat of a shutdown is unproductive at
Speaker 1: an absolut minimum. We should pass a continuing resolution, and
Speaker 1: in fact, the House pass complete funding from the entire
Speaker 1: fiscal year in a bipartisan vote. So at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, what we need to see is Senate
Speaker 1: Democrats come to the table to make sure that we
Speaker 1: can get sixty votes in the Senate fund this for
Speaker 1: the full year. Allow cooler heads to prevail, and I
Speaker 1: think what we're seeing is more and more local jurisdictions
Speaker 1: cooperating with ICE and that prevents some of the more
Speaker 1: challenging situations that we've had.
Speaker 3: Hey, Congressman, there are a lot of questions about the
Speaker 3: way this goes, and the calendar is not a friend.
Speaker 3: At the moment, there was only a two week continuing resolution,
Speaker 3: So here we are again up against the deadline. If
Speaker 3: Democrats and Republicans can't come to terms in the next
Speaker 3: couple of days. Here, would you support a continuing resolution
Speaker 3: of that duration again or should it be something longer
Speaker 3: so we don't have to keep coming back around on these.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't love curs, but boy, they're better
Speaker 1: than shutting down the government for a portion of the government.
Speaker 1: In this case, two weeks is pretty insufficient for Congress
Speaker 1: to operate. It's too bad that's the case. I'd be
Speaker 1: open to even a slightly longer cr But again, this
Speaker 1: final negotiation is going to take place between about ten
Speaker 1: Democrats in the United States Senate with President Trump. It's
Speaker 1: trusting that they can land this plane. Cooler heads prevail,
Speaker 1: getting local jurisdictions to cooperate with ice, and giving that
Speaker 1: time to reach agreement on this funding deal, I think
Speaker 1: is what's going to ultimately be required.
Speaker 2: Well, so while the work on a funding agreement happens
Speaker 2: in the background, Congressmen, you of course are doing work
Speaker 2: of your own, including holding a committee hearing on election
Speaker 2: integrity today as well, of course having introduced the Make
Speaker 2: Elections Great Again, the Mega Act around Election Security, that
Speaker 2: Act as well as the Save Act, which of course
Speaker 2: is a kind of tantem effort going on. Congressman was
Speaker 2: criticized by Republican Senator Lisa Murkowski as effectively federalized elections.
Speaker 2: Is that what you are intending to do? How do
Speaker 2: you avoid doing that?
Speaker 1: Article one, section four gives authority vote to the states
Speaker 1: to operate elections, but also the authority for Congress to
Speaker 1: make sure that there's clear laws to make sure that
Speaker 1: we have confidence in our elections. The Mega Act, a
Speaker 1: portion of which is the Save Act, puts forward common
Speaker 1: sense reforms to reinstate America's trust in our elections. I
Speaker 1: think it's common sense that we should require, for example,
Speaker 1: photo identification when an individual goes to the polls, I
Speaker 1: have to do that. If you want a board an airplane,
Speaker 1: you want to open a bank accounter, Heck, you want
Speaker 1: to buy a six pack of beer, you need to
Speaker 1: show photo identification. So it's common sense, it's popular. This
Speaker 1: is far from the takeover argument that some are attempting
Speaker 1: to make. It's putting in baseline standards so that all
Speaker 1: Americans have confidence our elections are being run accurately and fairly.
Speaker 3: Do you worry about mission creep here? If I can
Speaker 3: use that term, Congressman, When you hear President Trump talking
Speaker 3: about nationalizing elections and taking it out of the hands
Speaker 3: of the states in the case of sanctuary cities or
Speaker 3: states that have sanctuary cities, he says Republicans should run
Speaker 3: those elections of isolating about fifteen states he thinks need
Speaker 3: that kind of attention. Does that run against the conservative
Speaker 3: principles that you bring to the table.
Speaker 1: Well, I think what it is is putting in baseline
Speaker 1: standards that are needed to operate our elections. Again, the
Speaker 1: states are going to be the ones operating the elections,
Speaker 1: but I do think it's appropriate to have a federal
Speaker 1: standard with which every state must meet in an absolute minimum.
Speaker 1: Sixteen states, for example, don't require photo identification when an
Speaker 1: individual goes to vote. Again, I think all fifty states
Speaker 1: should require that. We should end elections on election days
Speaker 1: so the American public knows the results of elections on
Speaker 1: the night of the elections. These are core principles, They
Speaker 1: are common sense, and they instill confidence in our elections.
Speaker 1: What we saw from the state of Georgia after they
Speaker 1: implemented election integritary reform in twenty twenty one and they've
Speaker 1: run two statewide elections is high voter participation, increasing confidence
Speaker 1: and as that occurs, more and more people are likely
Speaker 1: to participate, which is a good thing for our democracy well.
Speaker 2: And as we consider what will be on the minds
Speaker 2: of the American electorate as they go to vote, Congressman,
Speaker 2: we know the economy always features quite heavily and the
Speaker 2: impact certain fiscal policies and others have on the economy,
Speaker 2: like for example, the impact of tariffs that have been
Speaker 2: levied by the Trump administration. They were supposed to be
Speaker 2: just a few hours from now a procedural vote, a
Speaker 2: rule vote on what Speaker Johnson is pushing, essentially extending
Speaker 2: a prohibition of calling snap votes on repealing the president's tariffs.
Speaker 2: We now understand that has been postponed to eight thirty
Speaker 2: pm this evening. It seems there's a little bit of
Speaker 2: trouble in the water here, Congressman. Is a few of
Speaker 2: your colleagues have suggested that they will not be voting
Speaker 2: with the Speaker on this. What are you hearing, Well.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of dialogue and discussion as to exactly
Speaker 1: how we move forward. I think we have an opportunity
Speaker 1: here to work with the presidents we strike trade deals,
Speaker 1: in particular with our allies, to bring those trade barriers
Speaker 1: down to give American markets access into foreign markets. For
Speaker 1: far too long, countries like China have taken advantage of
Speaker 1: US trade agreements. In holding countries like China, along with
Speaker 1: our allies, accountable, I think is absolutely essential. We're going
Speaker 1: to have a lot of dialogue and debate over this
Speaker 1: or the next handful of hours, but at the end here.
Speaker 1: I think the goal is to create these trade agreements
Speaker 1: with our allies, and I think we have an opportunity
Speaker 1: to do that.
Speaker 3: You know, the Supreme Court at some point is going
Speaker 3: to rule on this Congressman. In fact, we thought we
Speaker 3: would possibly even know by now, how would that potentially
Speaker 3: argue or complement a law passed by Congress when it
Speaker 3: comes to the veracity of this teriff regime.
Speaker 1: Well, for a number of years beyond just this administration,
Speaker 1: we have seen executives, both at the presidential level as
Speaker 1: well as governors, use emergency orders to take actions that
Speaker 1: they would like to take without legislative approval. We saw
Speaker 1: that all throughout the period of COVID case before the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court. I think could be depending on how it's written, transformative.
Speaker 1: As we understand emergency powers. Many of the tariffs that
Speaker 1: the President put forward are dependent on those emergency powers.
Speaker 1: The Supreme Court may rule, but I think in lieu
Speaker 1: of that, I think what we would like to see
Speaker 1: is the President continue to work and finalize these trade
Speaker 1: agreements with our allies to provide real stability in the
Speaker 1: trade agreements that we need to keep our economy strong.
Speaker 2: And just finally, Congressman. On the subject of the economy,
Speaker 2: President Trump suggested in an interview with Fox's Larry Cudlow
Speaker 2: that the economy could be growing at fifteen percent under
Speaker 2: the leadership of Kevin Warsh if he is confirmed a
Speaker 2: sped share take a listen.
Speaker 4: We should be at fifteen percent. I'll tell you if
Speaker 4: our new head of the FED, who I think is
Speaker 4: going to be great, and he's a really high quality person,
Speaker 4: but if he does the job that he's capable, we
Speaker 4: can grow at fifteen percent.
Speaker 1: I think more than that.
Speaker 2: You sit on the Financial Services Committee, Congressman, do you
Speaker 2: buy fifteen percent GDP growth in the United States of America?
Speaker 1: Well, wouldn't we all love to see it? But I
Speaker 1: think we got a ton of run room in front
Speaker 1: of us. The underlying economy in the United States is strong.
Speaker 1: If we continue to work to remove the burdens that
Speaker 1: have been put in place through red tape, through high regulations,
Speaker 1: through taxes, and we work to empower the American economy,
Speaker 1: I think we're going to continue to see strong economic growth.
Speaker 1: I think it's great that the President is out there
Speaker 1: cheerleading for the country and putting a high bar in
Speaker 1: front of us but we should all be working to
Speaker 1: drive forward economic growth. In particular as we look at
Speaker 1: a period of time where debt and deficits are significant
Speaker 1: challenges in front of us. The biggest answer to get
Speaker 1: out of this situation is to grow the economy at
Speaker 1: rates that we haven't seen. We've seen strong economic growth
Speaker 1: over the course of the past few quarters. I think
Speaker 1: we have an opportunity to continue to build on that success.
Speaker 3: Congressman, it's great to have you back. Thank you for
Speaker 3: the insights. As always, Ryan Style of Wisconsin, the chairman
Speaker 3: of the House Admin Committee,