1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 2: How you feel about the likelihood of a shutdown or 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: the progress being made on this ICE reform issue probably 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: depends on who you ask on Capitol Hill. So we're 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 2: going to ask someone there right now joining us, I'm 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: pleased to say live from the House is Republican Congressman 7 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 2: Brian Style of Wisconsin. He, of course, is the chair 8 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: of the House Administration Committee. Welcome back to Bloomberg TV 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: and Radio. Sarah, It's good to see you. It's been 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: a while since we've talked. As you just heard Tyler say, 11 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: it seems that there is still a bit of daylight 12 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 2: between Republicans and Democrats on what reforms both can actually 13 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 2: get behind. Sir, what would you be willing to accept. 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: Kelly, Welcome back. Here we are again Democrats threatening your shutdown, 15 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: in this time a portion of the federal government if 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: they don't get their way. I think what we need 17 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: to do is have cooler heads prevail. The Department of 18 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: Homeland Security is an essential agency that covers not only ICE, 19 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: but also Coast Guard, TSA, and other essential federal government programs, 20 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: and so the threat of a shutdown is unproductive at 21 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: an absolut minimum. We should pass a continuing resolution, and 22 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: in fact, the House pass complete funding from the entire 23 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: fiscal year in a bipartisan vote. So at the end 24 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: of the day, what we need to see is Senate 25 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: Democrats come to the table to make sure that we 26 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: can get sixty votes in the Senate fund this for 27 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: the full year. Allow cooler heads to prevail, and I 28 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: think what we're seeing is more and more local jurisdictions 29 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: cooperating with ICE and that prevents some of the more 30 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: challenging situations that we've had. 31 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 3: Hey, Congressman, there are a lot of questions about the 32 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 3: way this goes, and the calendar is not a friend. 33 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: At the moment, there was only a two week continuing resolution, 34 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 3: So here we are again up against the deadline. If 35 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 3: Democrats and Republicans can't come to terms in the next 36 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 3: couple of days. Here, would you support a continuing resolution 37 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 3: of that duration again or should it be something longer 38 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: so we don't have to keep coming back around on these. 39 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: You know, I don't love curs, but boy, they're better 40 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: than shutting down the government for a portion of the government. 41 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: In this case, two weeks is pretty insufficient for Congress 42 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: to operate. It's too bad that's the case. I'd be 43 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: open to even a slightly longer cr But again, this 44 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: final negotiation is going to take place between about ten 45 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: Democrats in the United States Senate with President Trump. It's 46 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: trusting that they can land this plane. Cooler heads prevail, 47 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: getting local jurisdictions to cooperate with ice, and giving that 48 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: time to reach agreement on this funding deal, I think 49 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: is what's going to ultimately be required. 50 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: Well, so while the work on a funding agreement happens 51 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 2: in the background, Congressmen, you of course are doing work 52 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: of your own, including holding a committee hearing on election 53 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 2: integrity today as well, of course having introduced the Make 54 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: Elections Great Again, the Mega Act around Election Security, that 55 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 2: Act as well as the Save Act, which of course 56 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: is a kind of tantem effort going on. Congressman was 57 00:02:54,840 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: criticized by Republican Senator Lisa Murkowski as effectively federalized elections. 58 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 2: Is that what you are intending to do? How do 59 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: you avoid doing that? 60 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: Article one, section four gives authority vote to the states 61 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: to operate elections, but also the authority for Congress to 62 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: make sure that there's clear laws to make sure that 63 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: we have confidence in our elections. The Mega Act, a 64 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: portion of which is the Save Act, puts forward common 65 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: sense reforms to reinstate America's trust in our elections. I 66 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: think it's common sense that we should require, for example, 67 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: photo identification when an individual goes to the polls, I 68 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: have to do that. If you want a board an airplane, 69 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: you want to open a bank accounter, Heck, you want 70 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: to buy a six pack of beer, you need to 71 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: show photo identification. So it's common sense, it's popular. This 72 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: is far from the takeover argument that some are attempting 73 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: to make. It's putting in baseline standards so that all 74 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: Americans have confidence our elections are being run accurately and fairly. 75 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: Do you worry about mission creep here? If I can 76 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 3: use that term, Congressman, When you hear President Trump talking 77 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 3: about nationalizing elections and taking it out of the hands 78 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 3: of the states in the case of sanctuary cities or 79 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: states that have sanctuary cities, he says Republicans should run 80 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: those elections of isolating about fifteen states he thinks need 81 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: that kind of attention. Does that run against the conservative 82 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 3: principles that you bring to the table. 83 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: Well, I think what it is is putting in baseline 84 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: standards that are needed to operate our elections. Again, the 85 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: states are going to be the ones operating the elections, 86 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: but I do think it's appropriate to have a federal 87 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: standard with which every state must meet in an absolute minimum. 88 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: Sixteen states, for example, don't require photo identification when an 89 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: individual goes to vote. Again, I think all fifty states 90 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: should require that. We should end elections on election days 91 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: so the American public knows the results of elections on 92 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: the night of the elections. These are core principles, They 93 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: are common sense, and they instill confidence in our elections. 94 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: What we saw from the state of Georgia after they 95 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: implemented election integritary reform in twenty twenty one and they've 96 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: run two statewide elections is high voter participation, increasing confidence 97 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: and as that occurs, more and more people are likely 98 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: to participate, which is a good thing for our democracy well. 99 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: And as we consider what will be on the minds 100 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 2: of the American electorate as they go to vote, Congressman, 101 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: we know the economy always features quite heavily and the 102 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 2: impact certain fiscal policies and others have on the economy, 103 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 2: like for example, the impact of tariffs that have been 104 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: levied by the Trump administration. They were supposed to be 105 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: just a few hours from now a procedural vote, a 106 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 2: rule vote on what Speaker Johnson is pushing, essentially extending 107 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 2: a prohibition of calling snap votes on repealing the president's tariffs. 108 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: We now understand that has been postponed to eight thirty 109 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: pm this evening. It seems there's a little bit of 110 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 2: trouble in the water here, Congressman. Is a few of 111 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: your colleagues have suggested that they will not be voting 112 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: with the Speaker on this. What are you hearing, Well. 113 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: There's a lot of dialogue and discussion as to exactly 114 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: how we move forward. I think we have an opportunity 115 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: here to work with the presidents we strike trade deals, 116 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,239 Speaker 1: in particular with our allies, to bring those trade barriers 117 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: down to give American markets access into foreign markets. For 118 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: far too long, countries like China have taken advantage of 119 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: US trade agreements. In holding countries like China, along with 120 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: our allies, accountable, I think is absolutely essential. We're going 121 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: to have a lot of dialogue and debate over this 122 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: or the next handful of hours, but at the end here. 123 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: I think the goal is to create these trade agreements 124 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: with our allies, and I think we have an opportunity 125 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: to do that. 126 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: You know, the Supreme Court at some point is going 127 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: to rule on this Congressman. In fact, we thought we 128 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 3: would possibly even know by now, how would that potentially 129 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: argue or complement a law passed by Congress when it 130 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 3: comes to the veracity of this teriff regime. 131 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: Well, for a number of years beyond just this administration, 132 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: we have seen executives, both at the presidential level as 133 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: well as governors, use emergency orders to take actions that 134 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: they would like to take without legislative approval. We saw 135 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: that all throughout the period of COVID case before the 136 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: Supreme Court. I think could be depending on how it's written, transformative. 137 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: As we understand emergency powers. Many of the tariffs that 138 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: the President put forward are dependent on those emergency powers. 139 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: The Supreme Court may rule, but I think in lieu 140 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: of that, I think what we would like to see 141 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: is the President continue to work and finalize these trade 142 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: agreements with our allies to provide real stability in the 143 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: trade agreements that we need to keep our economy strong. 144 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: And just finally, Congressman. On the subject of the economy, 145 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: President Trump suggested in an interview with Fox's Larry Cudlow 146 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: that the economy could be growing at fifteen percent under 147 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: the leadership of Kevin Warsh if he is confirmed a 148 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: sped share take a listen. 149 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 4: We should be at fifteen percent. I'll tell you if 150 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 4: our new head of the FED, who I think is 151 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 4: going to be great, and he's a really high quality person, 152 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 4: but if he does the job that he's capable, we 153 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 4: can grow at fifteen percent. 154 00:07:58,960 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: I think more than that. 155 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: You sit on the Financial Services Committee, Congressman, do you 156 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: buy fifteen percent GDP growth in the United States of America? 157 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: Well, wouldn't we all love to see it? But I 158 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: think we got a ton of run room in front 159 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: of us. The underlying economy in the United States is strong. 160 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: If we continue to work to remove the burdens that 161 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: have been put in place through red tape, through high regulations, 162 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: through taxes, and we work to empower the American economy, 163 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: I think we're going to continue to see strong economic growth. 164 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: I think it's great that the President is out there 165 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: cheerleading for the country and putting a high bar in 166 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: front of us but we should all be working to 167 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: drive forward economic growth. In particular as we look at 168 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: a period of time where debt and deficits are significant 169 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: challenges in front of us. The biggest answer to get 170 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: out of this situation is to grow the economy at 171 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: rates that we haven't seen. We've seen strong economic growth 172 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: over the course of the past few quarters. I think 173 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: we have an opportunity to continue to build on that success. 174 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 3: Congressman, it's great to have you back. Thank you for 175 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 3: the insights. As always, Ryan Style of Wisconsin, the chairman 176 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: of the House Admin Committee,