WEBVTT - TechStuff Classic: TechStuff Goes on Autopilot

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production of I Heart Radios,

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<v Speaker 1>How Stuff Works. Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with

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<v Speaker 1>How Stuff Works and I heart Radio and I love

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<v Speaker 1>all things tech. And you know what time it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's showtime. Showtime. Also time for a classic episode tech Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And this episode originally published on May one, two thousand twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris and I phoned it in. We walked into this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast room. We just sat down and we went on autopilot.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's okay because the episode was tech Stuff goes

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<v Speaker 1>on autopilot, So get ready to learn all about autopilot.

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<v Speaker 1>Take it away past Jonathan and Chris. So today we

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk a little bit about, um, well, something

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<v Speaker 1>that Chris and I do all the time, which is

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<v Speaker 1>to go on autopilot like we do in this podcast

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<v Speaker 1>oh every darn week. Um No, we want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the autopilot systems in airplanes because you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>often hear that phrase about switching on autopilot, But what

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<v Speaker 1>does that actually mean? What's it? What does that entail?

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<v Speaker 1>How did we come up with this idea? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>because it kind of has a sort of almost magical

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<v Speaker 1>air about it for anyone who is uninformed about the

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<v Speaker 1>way autopilot works. Right, Like, there's a big red button

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<v Speaker 1>that says autopilot. You press it and pressed dough Everything's cool,

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<v Speaker 1>you said, air. Um, there's gonna be a lot of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get that out of the way right now. Yep, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh. I'm a fan of Patrick smith On. Salani

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<v Speaker 1>has a column called Ask the Pilot, because he's a

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<v Speaker 1>pilot and people ask him questions about things like what

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<v Speaker 1>happens at one of the engines falls off a jet

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of And he answered bad things, yes, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not as bad as if all the engines

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<v Speaker 1>on the jet. Right, No, but I'm thinking about it

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<v Speaker 1>depends on if you are under the jet at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true. Um, but yeah, I mean. And and one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that he says a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>He's mentioned this several times. People seem to think that

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<v Speaker 1>the pilot can get in the cockpit, close the door,

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<v Speaker 1>push the red button, and the plane will fly itself

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<v Speaker 1>to the next destination. And he gets out and thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for flying with us, And it doesn't quite work.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he collects the big fat check for all for

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<v Speaker 1>pushing a button. Yeah, it doesn't really work that way,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can do a lot, but it can't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>It can it can even land a plane depending on

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<v Speaker 1>the conditions and the systems aboard. But let's uh, let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's take it back a step first. Let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>sort of the development of autopilot. So way back in

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<v Speaker 1>nine there was a fellow by the name of Elmer Sperry,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was developing something called a gyro compass, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was using a gyrocompass and other sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of gyroscopes that in combination could work with a system

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<v Speaker 1>on an on a plane to allow a automated steering. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>what it did was it just kept the steering steady.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you know, it's kind of like, you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>idea of just uh, you're on a steady heading and

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<v Speaker 1>it keeps you on that. UM And the first test

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<v Speaker 1>flight of a a plane with um this sort of

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<v Speaker 1>autopilot system was performed by Lawrence Burst Sperry, son of

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<v Speaker 1>Elmer Sperry, which was again right around nineteen o eight,

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<v Speaker 1>and they used four gyroscopes to help stabilize the plane.

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<v Speaker 1>So the gyroscopes depending on their attitude. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>mean whether they were friendly or not. Forget you, you

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<v Speaker 1>could fly to the playing yourself. I mean their position

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<v Speaker 1>relative to the rest of the environment would dictate how

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<v Speaker 1>the system would work. And so that was that they

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<v Speaker 1>developed the first true autopilot system, which was later used

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<v Speaker 1>by a fellow named Wiley Post which is just a

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<v Speaker 1>great name. Yeah, you know, he's an His name is

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<v Speaker 1>one of those names that you hear every once in

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<v Speaker 1>a while. Um. He was famous back in in in

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<v Speaker 1>his time, which was the earliest part of the twentieth century. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>famous aviator and his name sort of just comes up

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<v Speaker 1>every once in a while. Is him? I know that name?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is he famous? Well? Is it turns out he uh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he flew across country. Yeah, and made headlines with that, certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he flew around the world. And the first

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<v Speaker 1>time he flew around the world, he flew around the

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<v Speaker 1>world with a navigator. Took a long time for him

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<v Speaker 1>to get all the way around the world. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>but the navigator was there too, not just navigate, but

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<v Speaker 1>also make sure that that Wiley remained wildly Yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was alert and thank you, alert and capable of

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<v Speaker 1>maneuvering the plane and not just you know, any time

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<v Speaker 1>anyone has to do a monotonous task for a really

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<v Speaker 1>long time, there's a danger that we will go on

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<v Speaker 1>autopilot as and we'll stop paying it tension, and then

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<v Speaker 1>disaster can can strike. So he had a navigator. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>then he decided that he wanted to try and do

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<v Speaker 1>a solo flight around the world, and this is three

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<v Speaker 1>and so in order to do a solo flight and

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<v Speaker 1>still be able to rest and you know, because these

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<v Speaker 1>these flights were taking hours and hours and hours at

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<v Speaker 1>a time just but you know, from one spot to

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<v Speaker 1>the next before refueling and uh uh, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a long time to stay awake. So he would

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<v Speaker 1>have had this, uh, this system developed by the Sperry's

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<v Speaker 1>that would help keep the plane on course so that

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<v Speaker 1>he could rest because otherwise, uh, he would probably have

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<v Speaker 1>gone crazy. You know, you go without sleep long enough

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<v Speaker 1>and you start to go bunkers. So that was a

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<v Speaker 1>very important development, and it's today autopilot is part of

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<v Speaker 1>something a little more sophisticated. Back then it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was a fairly simple system, but now it's part of

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<v Speaker 1>the auto matic flight control system. Which in turn is

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<v Speaker 1>one component of an airplane's avionics system. And before we

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<v Speaker 1>go too far into this, I do want to say

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<v Speaker 1>we have an article on how stuff Works dot com

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<v Speaker 1>about how autopilot works, and it's an excellent article. I

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<v Speaker 1>do recommend you go check that out if you want

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<v Speaker 1>more information. We're going to give you the rundown on it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's it will help a lot if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to look further into it. There's a great article on

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<v Speaker 1>our site is by William Harris as a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>who used to be one of my writers as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so an avionic system in case you're wondering

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<v Speaker 1>what that is, you know, we just mentioned that the

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<v Speaker 1>the automatic flight control system is part of avion X.

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<v Speaker 1>Avionics refers to electronic systems aboard a plane that are

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<v Speaker 1>really designed to help control the plane and the key

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<v Speaker 1>elements of flight. And the other systems that are involved

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<v Speaker 1>include things like navigation, collision avoidance, communication, UH and weather systems.

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<v Speaker 1>So these are the very important systems that allow pilots

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<v Speaker 1>to to do their job and get as much information

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<v Speaker 1>and have as much control over the aircraft as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, they're really the original purpose of the

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<v Speaker 1>autopilot was to help pilots be able to take little

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<v Speaker 1>rest breaks, especially when doing something that's truly tedious, like

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<v Speaker 1>cruising at high altitude. When you're well, you're you're you've

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<v Speaker 1>reached your your cruising altitude like thirty feet and that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're stuck there for however long the flight is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be before you have to start taking her down,

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<v Speaker 1>and that can get you know, if you if you've

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<v Speaker 1>got several flights a day, that can get pretty tiresome.

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<v Speaker 1>So the autopilot helps the the pilot kind of offload

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<v Speaker 1>that so that the pilot is in the best shape

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<v Speaker 1>to bring the plane in for landing or dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>any other unusual circumstances or even things like turbulence. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>If it's a smooth flight, it shouldn't be much trouble

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<v Speaker 1>for the autopilot to keep the plane going where it's going. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And and it does that through a series of well

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<v Speaker 1>course corrections. Really um. As it turns out, it's basically uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea behind the auto autopilot itself is pretty simple. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You have several control surfaces, and we talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>in the past. You have control surfaces on the wings

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<v Speaker 1>and on the vertical stabilizer uh known to those of

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<v Speaker 1>us and the uh you just talking about planes sort

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<v Speaker 1>of world that tail um and uh you know you

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<v Speaker 1>basically controls h It consents what's going on. It says, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're descending a little bit. We need to adjust the

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<v Speaker 1>control surfaces to change the airflow and get the plane

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<v Speaker 1>back up. You know these ten feet that we've dropped. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's at all it does is it's basically and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm grossly oversimplifying it, but um on purpose. So yeah, basically,

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<v Speaker 1>all it's doing is saying, oh, we need to we

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<v Speaker 1>need to fix this, we need to adjust this and

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<v Speaker 1>get it back to where we were. Um. And then

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<v Speaker 1>it just makes these very subtle course corrections to get

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<v Speaker 1>to keep the plane more or less where it is.

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<v Speaker 1>When the pilot hits the big red button. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know if the big red button exists. It's playing

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<v Speaker 1>for what we're talking about, right. So, So to get

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<v Speaker 1>a little more in depth with this, uh, you you

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<v Speaker 1>have a closed system, and that closed system includes sensors

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<v Speaker 1>that are on these control surfaces as well as other

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<v Speaker 1>sensors that are part of the planes systems that provide

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<v Speaker 1>information to a computer. Now, the computer takes this information

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<v Speaker 1>compares it to whatever command the pilot has given. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>the pilot might say I want to maintain this altitude,

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<v Speaker 1>this speed, and this course. And then what happens is

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<v Speaker 1>the computer takes the information gathered by the sensors, compares

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<v Speaker 1>it to the command given by the pilot, and then

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<v Speaker 1>makes any adjustments necessary in order to maintain that that command.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that might mean sending information to a a servo

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<v Speaker 1>that will adjust one of those those control surfaces to

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<v Speaker 1>make a bit of a change, either to turn the

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<v Speaker 1>plane a little better, raise and go up in altitude

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<v Speaker 1>or lower in altitude, whatever is necessary in order to

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<v Speaker 1>maintain the command that was set by the pilot. So

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<v Speaker 1>those those three basic control surfaces that Chris was alluding

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<v Speaker 1>to include elevators, which that's on the tail of the plane,

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<v Speaker 1>and that helps control the plane's pitch. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>imagine a plane that let's say that you're balancing a

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<v Speaker 1>plane along its length, so it's you know, it can

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<v Speaker 1>tilt forward or backward the pitches. That's what the pitch does.

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<v Speaker 1>It allows the plane to either go up or down

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<v Speaker 1>uh in uh angled in that way. Then you have

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<v Speaker 1>the rudder, which controls the y'aw that that's what twists

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<v Speaker 1>the plane. And then you have the ailerons, which are

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<v Speaker 1>on the your edge of the wings. That's what rolls

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<v Speaker 1>the plane to once that or the other. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So those are your three basic control surfaces that can

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<v Speaker 1>do these these changes to the plane's attitude in flight.

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<v Speaker 1>And depending upon the autopilot system you have, you may

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<v Speaker 1>be able to have one or two or all three

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<v Speaker 1>of those under automatic control. So, and it's pretty easy

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<v Speaker 1>to understand. A one access, one access rather control system

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<v Speaker 1>will control just one of those three surfaces, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>usually the ailerons. If it's just gonna be one, it's

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<v Speaker 1>usually that. Two access controls usually controls the elevators and

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<v Speaker 1>the ailerons, and then three excess controls controls all three. Clearly,

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't don't have like a fourth one poppat and

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<v Speaker 1>then hey, what's this do forget you rudder? You never

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<v Speaker 1>get controlled? Uh, it's not the case. So the depending

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<v Speaker 1>on that system, the autopilot is in charge of making

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<v Speaker 1>sure that the any adjustments gets send out to those

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<v Speaker 1>different control surfaces to maintain the command that the pilot

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<v Speaker 1>has made and the sensors include other things like gyroscopes,

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<v Speaker 1>which help determine the actual attitude of the plane, how

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, whether it's tilted in one side or

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<v Speaker 1>the other, or the pitch is wrong. That's what the

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<v Speaker 1>gyroscopes can help with. And then you have acceleraters, so

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<v Speaker 1>obviously determining what the speed is of the plane, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's undergoing any sort of acceleration or deceleration, altimeters which

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<v Speaker 1>tell you how high up the plane is. That seems

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<v Speaker 1>relatively important. And then a compass which tells you which

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<v Speaker 1>way you're facing. Also the more. But over the last

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<v Speaker 1>several years, the the autopilot system has also depended upon

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<v Speaker 1>GPS receivers, which can let the autopilot system know where

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<v Speaker 1>the plane is geographically and thus make any sort of

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<v Speaker 1>course corrections in order to even plotical course to a destination.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a little bit more that can be offloaded

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<v Speaker 1>onto a computer system. Now we're still not to the

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<v Speaker 1>point where we're gonna have robot pilots. You know, these

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<v Speaker 1>these autopilot systems are meant to help um help pilots

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<v Speaker 1>rest and and and plan for other parts of the flight.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're not replacements. Yeah, so make sure if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a pilot that you watch what you eat before you,

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<v Speaker 1>uh take over the controls. Oh, yes, I had to lasagna.

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<v Speaker 1>This is bob. I'm mixing those up because it's airplane

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<v Speaker 1>and airplane too. Okay, yeah, but yeah, you can you

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<v Speaker 1>can tell um. You know from the very first uh

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<v Speaker 1>when Wiley Post was using the the early Sperry system UM,

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<v Speaker 1>which was based solely on on gyroscopes and compass readings,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that that was a very simple version of

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<v Speaker 1>what would later become these systems. And now that we

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<v Speaker 1>have all these different um uh, different types of sensors

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<v Speaker 1>and different types of input, the autopilot system can be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more accurate than those of the past UM

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<v Speaker 1>and it has become a very very useful tool for

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<v Speaker 1>an aircraft pilot to to rely on. Yeah. And also, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I should point out that these systems, with the servo

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<v Speaker 1>mechanisms and everything that help control the surfaces, they are

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<v Speaker 1>independent of the manual systems that are used by the

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<v Speaker 1>pilot when the pilot controls the plane. Whenever he or

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<v Speaker 1>she is controlling the plane, uh, it's an independent series

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<v Speaker 1>of of servos and every and other elements that keep

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<v Speaker 1>these surfaces moving. And the reason for that is because

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<v Speaker 1>autopilot systems, like any other system, can fail, and UH

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<v Speaker 1>in the case of failure, you want to have the

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<v Speaker 1>option for manual control so that the pilot can take

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<v Speaker 1>over and everything will be fine. And so in order

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<v Speaker 1>to do that, you have to make sure there's some

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<v Speaker 1>redundant systems there because as if it's a servo mechanism failure,

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<v Speaker 1>which is frequently the case in an autopilot failure, then

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<v Speaker 1>you want to make sure you still have a way

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<v Speaker 1>of controlling that surface area or else you're really stuck.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got some serious problems if if a system like

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<v Speaker 1>that fails. Over, Macho grande, I'll never be over, Mancho grande.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got more to say about autopilot in just a moment,

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<v Speaker 1>but first let's take a break to thank our sponsor.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing that's important to remember is that if

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<v Speaker 1>an autopilot system is engaged, meaning that it's working, not

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<v Speaker 1>that it has found the right person and they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to build a family together system. So a down and

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<v Speaker 1>have a little being a little extra goofy this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>For reasons I can't understand, other than the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>we were not able to come in our normal studio

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<v Speaker 1>time because stuff to blow your mind was taking up

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<v Speaker 1>the space in front of us. So blame them anyway. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>when the autopo system is is active, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to turn that off before you engage manual systems,

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<v Speaker 1>because otherwise, what's happening is you're fighting the autopilot because

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<v Speaker 1>the changes you make, what's going to have is the

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<v Speaker 1>sensors and the autopilot system pick up the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>you've changed the or or that conditions have changed. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's say that you're trying to bring the plane down

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<v Speaker 1>to a different altitude and you start to do this

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<v Speaker 1>and autopilot is already engaged. The sensors and autopilot start

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<v Speaker 1>to say, wait a minute, now, we're now we're going lower.

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<v Speaker 1>And he told me, he told me at the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of this flight that we wanted to maintain thirty four

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<v Speaker 1>thousand feet. So, gosh, darn it, I'm gonna change the

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<v Speaker 1>altitude of this here plane. So disengaging the autopilot is

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<v Speaker 1>very important before taking over manually. Now, I'm sure there

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<v Speaker 1>are many systems out there that have sort of an

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<v Speaker 1>automatic disengaging uh process. So that if a pilot were

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<v Speaker 1>to take the controls, the autopilot would would turn off,

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<v Speaker 1>so that you wouldn't have a pilot and autopilot fight

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<v Speaker 1>over where a plane is going. But there have been

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<v Speaker 1>in the past a few UM accidents and incidents that

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<v Speaker 1>were UH linked in one way or another two autopilot failures.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of experts that I have looked at UH

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<v Speaker 1>the writings rather not the actual experts. I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>look at them too, but they get a little self

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<v Speaker 1>conscious after a while. But according to their research, it

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<v Speaker 1>seems to me like autopilot failure is not generally a

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<v Speaker 1>cause for for accidents. It tends to be something else

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<v Speaker 1>that's happened. There have been a few cases where autopilot

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<v Speaker 1>was disengaged and then perhaps turned back on again at

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<v Speaker 1>a time when a plane was experiencing trouble, and that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't help matters. But it doesn't look like autopilot failures

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<v Speaker 1>often result in catastrophe, mainly because we have these well

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<v Speaker 1>trained pilots that are in the cockpits that can take

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<v Speaker 1>over when that happens. That's true, UM and UH. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's time to bring up some negative feedback. The

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<v Speaker 1>negative feedback loop. Yeah. No, a feedback loop is basically

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<v Speaker 1>a and then this doesn't necessarily have to be a

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<v Speaker 1>an electronic thing. I was reading an article and wired

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<v Speaker 1>about this. If you've ever seen those, um uh, those

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<v Speaker 1>speed indicator things on the side of the road that say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know speed limits thirty five and you're doing forty two,

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<v Speaker 1>pal slow it down and it flashes at you. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>that's creating a feedback loop. They used that example specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>so basically, UM, that article was talking about how they're

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<v Speaker 1>actually fairly effective um at getting people to slow down

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<v Speaker 1>because they're providing you feedback on what you're doing, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of creates this sense of, well, I should

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<v Speaker 1>probably behave myself and stay close to the speed limit

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<v Speaker 1>in this area, Um, I don't want to get pulled over,

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<v Speaker 1>or or some people are thinking I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>get caught and other people are thinking I am going

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<v Speaker 1>too fast for this neighborhood. Exactly. I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>most of the people I encounter are of the first

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<v Speaker 1>part where they look around, like, I don't see any cups.

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<v Speaker 1>Just screwed up the levels there too, I'm sure probably, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but but in this case, uh, the autopilot system uses

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<v Speaker 1>a negative feedback loop. Um. So let's say you're flying

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<v Speaker 1>at thirty four thousand feet okay, and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine when I used ten feet before that

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<v Speaker 1>was a I'm thinking that's probably a fairly subtle change

0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:36.800
<v Speaker 1>for a plane in flight. So let's say it goes

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<v Speaker 1>down ten feet, um, maybe as a result of a

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<v Speaker 1>little turbulence or something, and uh, it sets off a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a signal in the processors because the sensors

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<v Speaker 1>have detected that there is something. So that's negative feedback,

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<v Speaker 1>and it says, oh, it's something's changed. It's not supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be this way. Fix it. And so it's just

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<v Speaker 1>constantly going through this loop, is it okay? Yes, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>never mind, don't do any yes, never mind, it's okay,

0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:04.679
<v Speaker 1>we're tilting, all right, fix that. Yeah it's um. If

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<v Speaker 1>you want to know another negative feedback loop mechanism that

0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:10.160
<v Speaker 1>you're probably pretty familiar with, we did an entire episode

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<v Speaker 1>about it, the thermostat. Because let's say you set your

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<v Speaker 1>thermostat for we'll say seventy degrees because I like it

0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:21.800
<v Speaker 1>right around there in my house, UM, so seventy degrees.

0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:25.640
<v Speaker 1>So when the temperatures at seventy. Everything is copathetic. Nothing

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<v Speaker 1>gets turned on. As soon as it starts hitting seventy one.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you have the system click into place. The air conditioning.

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<v Speaker 1>The air conditioning system itself starts to starts to fire up,

0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:43.680
<v Speaker 1>which ironically makes it cooler. And uh then it starts

0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:46.359
<v Speaker 1>blowing cool air through the through the house. And once

0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:50.199
<v Speaker 1>the air has become cool enough around the thermostat and

0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:54.359
<v Speaker 1>the internal thermometer detects it, then it switches back off again.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a negative feedback loop system. I'm just glad

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<v Speaker 1>you've upgraded from that swamp cooler. I'm just glad I

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<v Speaker 1>upgraded from opening up all the windows and shouting at people. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Your neighbors are happy with that. They are, uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yelled get off my lawn. But I live in an apartment,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's awkward. Um yeah now uh yeah, now sorry

0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:21.760
<v Speaker 1>I just said yeah now twice three times. Then okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So negative feedback loops use a receptor, a control center,

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<v Speaker 1>and an effector. Basically, a receptor is what's figuring out

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on. It sends information to the control center. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the affect or is the thing that makes

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<v Speaker 1>the change. So yeah, and the system in system of

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<v Speaker 1>the autopilot we're talking about. The sensors are the receptor

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<v Speaker 1>there are many different kinds in this case. Yes, the

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<v Speaker 1>control the control center is the computer that takes in

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<v Speaker 1>all this information, and the effector are the servo mechanisms

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<v Speaker 1>that the computer sends commands to that then make adjustments

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<v Speaker 1>to those control surfaces so that the plane does whatever

0:21:56.720 --> 0:21:59.720
<v Speaker 1>it was the pilot wanted to do. And then these

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<v Speaker 1>tims are incredibly sophisticated now to the point where, like

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned before, they can actually land a plane and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes are used to land a plane. Not not generally speaking.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of the time it's a human pilot that's landing

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<v Speaker 1>a plane. Yeah, but in cases where visibility is really limited, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there are times where they they will they will incorporate

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<v Speaker 1>an autopilot system in order to bring the plane in

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<v Speaker 1>and land it when there's a fear that maybe human

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<v Speaker 1>failure could play a role in a safe landing. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's not common, but it can happen. Yeah, they prefer

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<v Speaker 1>not to do that. Um, it's usually better too that

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a time when you want, uh, the system

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<v Speaker 1>to fail. It's it's usually a pretty a pretty dramatic

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<v Speaker 1>turn of events for that to happen, because normally pilots

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<v Speaker 1>don't bring planes into UH to UH to an airport

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<v Speaker 1>where there's already that kind of limited visibility. If there,

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<v Speaker 1>if they can help it, they'll usually divert to another. Really,

0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:03.199
<v Speaker 1>air traffic control will tell them to divert, divert to

0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:07.880
<v Speaker 1>another airport UH that they can get to safely, rather

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<v Speaker 1>than go into an airport where there's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>conditions that will severely limit visibility. Now that's not always possible.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean in commercial flights that tends to happen quite

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<v Speaker 1>a bit because you know the past, your safety is

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<v Speaker 1>so important. But with something like a military flight, it

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<v Speaker 1>may not be a possibility. So um, different cases, depending

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<v Speaker 1>on the whole scenario there, but it is possible, and

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<v Speaker 1>it has happened. I know we haven't really diverted from

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<v Speaker 1>our pathway, but that's what a good autopilot does, remains nice,

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<v Speaker 1>steady and true and for that we're going to continue

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<v Speaker 1>on our journey and make a little stop to thank

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<v Speaker 1>our sponsor. Now, UM, I don't know, did you want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about other types of autopilot at all? What

0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:05.560
<v Speaker 1>you mean like cruise control? Well, I was talking specifically

0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:08.520
<v Speaker 1>about cars, because that's been that's been coming up a

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<v Speaker 1>lot lately. Things I've been talking about how, uh, in

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<v Speaker 1>three years, cars will be driving themselves. Well, they're already

0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:19.080
<v Speaker 1>doing that if you work for Google. Yes, they're also

0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:22.600
<v Speaker 1>rear ending people. Um, people are backing up into them,

0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:24.720
<v Speaker 1>you know it. They see like there's no one in

0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:31.520
<v Speaker 1>that car. Reverse boom. Google owes me money. That's all allegedly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got I used the word allegedly. It's all right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the way that works. Send hate mail to um. Actually, uh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>of course Google is testing systems like that. UM. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know that it is a little more difficult in

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<v Speaker 1>some ways for a car. Well, yes, for a plane,

0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:55.480
<v Speaker 1>you know it's going that way and there's probably nothing

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<v Speaker 1>in front of it directly. Um. Generally speaking, air traffic

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<v Speaker 1>is less severe less than ground traffic. Yeah. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>once you get toward an airport, then yes, air traffic

0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:08.840
<v Speaker 1>starts to pick up. But by then usually pilots have

0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:12.520
<v Speaker 1>disengaged the autopilot system. Anyway. But with roads, you have

0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:17.040
<v Speaker 1>things like, um, weather conditions trick into account. Slippery roads,

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 1>You've got twists and turns, you've got squirrels, construction, Um,

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:23.840
<v Speaker 1>don't have a whole lot of construction at thirty four

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<v Speaker 1>thousand feet. People who are not paying attention while they're

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<v Speaker 1>driving in front of you. People who are playing makeup

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<v Speaker 1>shaving so um, shaving while applying makeup while reading Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>so um Yeah, they're they're working on systems to do

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<v Speaker 1>similar kinds of things with cars. But it's a much

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<v Speaker 1>more challenging or at least I think so much more

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<v Speaker 1>challenging proposition to put that kind of a system in

0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 1>a car, because there's so many more factors that uh,

0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:53.000
<v Speaker 1>an autopilot would have to take into account. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>now there are. It's pretty common to find at least

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<v Speaker 1>the higher end models with sensors that will help you park.

0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:01.119
<v Speaker 1>Um they have you know those through parking cars, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole collision detection stuff so that it can tell

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<v Speaker 1>when it's close to another object and thus adjust the

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<v Speaker 1>control so that you avoid colliding with it, which use

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<v Speaker 1>uh you know, some radar and cameras, infrared systems, Um,

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:19.760
<v Speaker 1>you know these things. Lane changing I like that system too,

0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:22.399
<v Speaker 1>where um you know, it's able to detect where the

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<v Speaker 1>lanes are and kind of keep you in place, make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you know, you're not gonna smash into someone

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<v Speaker 1>who's in your blind spot, yes, which is very important,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if there are a lot of bicyclists around. There's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's these systems are are emerging for for

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<v Speaker 1>cars because the vehicles, but really in airplane is one too,

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<v Speaker 1>But there are emerging. It's kind of an emerging technology

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<v Speaker 1>for cars. And one thing that will really help this

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<v Speaker 1>technology propagate is when we actually see it and lots

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<v Speaker 1>and lots and lots of different cars, because then you

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<v Speaker 1>can have a system where the cars are just one

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<v Speaker 1>element within the system. Now, see in the plane, we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a closed system that's all contained within the

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<v Speaker 1>plane itself. With something like cars and traffic, you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a system that could, in theory be a meta system,

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<v Speaker 1>a system of systems. Each car would have its own system,

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<v Speaker 1>including things like sensors for collision detection and lane detection,

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<v Speaker 1>all that sort of stuff, as well as GPS receivers

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<v Speaker 1>so that the car knows where it is and is

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<v Speaker 1>navigating to the appropriate destination. Uh and maybe even things

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<v Speaker 1>like other kinds of radio receivers so that the system

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<v Speaker 1>has information about traffic reports and construction delays. And things

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<v Speaker 1>like that, so it can reroute around those. But then

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<v Speaker 1>you have a system of systems where you could have

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<v Speaker 1>an entire uh infrastructure that can detect where these cars

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<v Speaker 1>are based upon their own electronic signatures, if you've built

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<v Speaker 1>in stuff that's directly in the roads or part of

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<v Speaker 1>the whole infrastructure. Uh. And then the system of systems

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<v Speaker 1>could help maintain a good flowid traffic by helping these

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:07.879
<v Speaker 1>these individual cars route to the appropriate destination in the

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<v Speaker 1>most efficient way possible. So then the closed system it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't isn't truly closed because it becomes part of a

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<v Speaker 1>larger system. Uh. That's pretty I mean, it's incredibly complex,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're not there yet, not by a long shot,

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<v Speaker 1>because we would we would need not just lots and

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<v Speaker 1>lots and lots of cars that have these these sensors

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<v Speaker 1>and these mechanisms incorporated into the design of the car itself.

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<v Speaker 1>We would have to go and build out the infrastructure

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<v Speaker 1>in the cities, which is an entirely different prospect. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that's that might be slightly expensive and it might

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<v Speaker 1>take more than a decade to complete. I mean, based

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<v Speaker 1>upon how long certain streets in Atlanta have had metal

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<v Speaker 1>plates on top of potholes. I'm going to guess that

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<v Speaker 1>incorporating such a sophisticated system that would need to be

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<v Speaker 1>really pervasive throughout the entire infrastructure would probably take about

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand years. Well, it would take um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on the size of the area covered, Like a

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<v Speaker 1>municipality could probably do it a lot more quickly than

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<v Speaker 1>a nation covering all of its uh you know, major

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 1>highways and um and then you start talking about surface

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 1>streets and back roads and things like that, it could

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<v Speaker 1>take a very very long time. Plus there will be

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<v Speaker 1>people who are loath to give up their older cars

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<v Speaker 1>that don't have these systems. You know, even even if

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<v Speaker 1>there's a new system that has manual versus automatic, I

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<v Speaker 1>think there are a lot of people who would be

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<v Speaker 1>um who would be have reservations about switching to an

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<v Speaker 1>automated driver system. Either they would feel powerless in that situation,

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 1>or they just they just genuinely enjoy driving. Because I've

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:50.040
<v Speaker 1>heard there are such people. There are such people that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand them. They come from a different planet

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<v Speaker 1>than I do, but we don't. We don't don't judge.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they can be crazy. I don't That's fine.

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I know lots of crazy people I work with. Most

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 1>of them, or most of the people I work with

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 1>are crazy. They weren't that way when I started. I

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know what happened. Yeah, anyway, So, yeah, these autopilot

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<v Speaker 1>systems are finding their ways into other different vehicles, so cars,

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:23.959
<v Speaker 1>boats as well, and other sorts of vehicles. And I

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:26.239
<v Speaker 1>expect that will continue to see that. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>whole idea of an automated system that helps you get

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<v Speaker 1>to where you're going. Uh, it's just another example of

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<v Speaker 1>us trying to create technologies that make our lives easier,

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 1>more convenient and uh and uh, paving the way for

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 1>our robot overlords too easily conquer us when they choose

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>to rise up against us. Awesome, as in the documentary Terminator.

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<v Speaker 1>And that concludes this classic episode of tech stuff. Hope

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<v Speaker 1>you guys enjoyed it. I always find autopilot to be

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<v Speaker 1>a fascinating subject. It's one of those things where if

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<v Speaker 1>you trace the development of autopilot, you can kind of

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<v Speaker 1>look at a continuing line that goes up to autonomous

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 1>vehicles today. Uh. And it's really fascinating to me that

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