1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: Tony a very special edition of Splash Hit Territory today. 2 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: Why cause it's the first day of spring training. Woo 3 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: pitchers and catchers in Scottsdale, Arizona. I'm in the home 4 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: base here in downtown San Francisco. Susan is on site 5 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: in Scottsdale, Arizona, frequent contributor to the show, nice enough 6 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: to join us today, and she's got all kinds of 7 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: news on the Giants. She's been in the dugout. She 8 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: talked to Tony, she talked to Busters, she talked to players. 9 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: So this is going to be like you're a guest 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: on my K ANDBR show. You're there, I'm here your 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: boots on the ground. I listened to all the tapes 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: of the interviews today, but you were there. So how 13 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: does it feel to be in Scottsdale? How does it 14 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: feel to be in camp? 15 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 2: Like? 16 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: Give me your thoughts. 17 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: Initially, Well, I had a rough travel night. I was 18 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: supposed to get in. I didn't want to leave during 19 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: the day because of the everybody leaving from the Super Bowl, 20 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: so I left in the evening. In my flight that 21 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: was supposed to get in at ten thirty, got in 22 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: at two am and yeah, so if I if I 23 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: seem out of it, that's why. But it was very 24 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: exciting at camp today, right like we go in thinking 25 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: like Tony Vytello's the big story. In the first day camp, 26 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: we had a couple of national guys. Ken Rosenthal was there, 27 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: Bob Nightingale was there, Barry Bloom was there, a couple 28 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: other people like just for Tony you could tell. But 29 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: so Luisa Rise new I mean we were expecting it. 30 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: Of course. It makes so much sense when it's that 31 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 2: close to spring training to just get your physical announce 32 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: it the first day of the spring. Then you can 33 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: also make the corresponding move that work beautifully, but also 34 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 2: that winds up being so for a first day camp, 35 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: there was a lot going on. But really I still 36 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: got to I gotta say, gosh, what's number one? Is 37 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: it a rise or is it Ytello? You decide? 38 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: I say, Arise because I saw videos of him taking 39 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: ground balls at second already, and he was full UNI 40 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: today and he's ready to go, and all the things 41 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: you hear about him is work ethic, how he fits in. 42 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: So he was there and just so the fans know 43 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: that a lot of times it's pictures and catchers, but 44 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: you can report early as a position player and it 45 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: just takes a good look. I want to be there. 46 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: I'm excited to be there taking ground balls. So you 47 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: talked to him, What did he have to say? 48 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I had never heard anything but raves 49 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 2: about Louise Rice as a fellow. Like, teammates love him, 50 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: the media really likes him. He's so likable. He's he 51 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 2: kind of reminds me a little bit of Willy, you know, 52 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: Willi is just you know, he's got it pegged when 53 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 2: it comes to charm and friendliness Arise. Maybe not quite 54 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: to that, but he's like constantly smiling, very friendly, answered 55 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: every question, looked like, you know, was really engaged interested, 56 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: It seems delighted to be with the Giant. Said all 57 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: the right things. He'd checked with Gregor Blanco before signing, 58 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: and Gregor Blanco said essentially like, you man, you're going 59 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: to love the park. You're going to have so much 60 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: fun and playing there, And he thought, Okay, that sounds 61 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 2: pretty good to me. He's got he's got a wan 62 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 2: Marischal Jersey is one of his most treasured items. A 63 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 2: hating coach back in Venezuela, gave it to him, so 64 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: he's hoping that maybe he can get that signed sometimes. So, uh, 65 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 2: the main thing he said was, you know, look they've 66 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: got all those rings. He's how's with Sandoval? He how's 67 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: with Gregor Blanco. He's like, pretty good spot to get 68 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 2: some rings. So you like to hear that kind of stuff. 69 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: And of course the questions are going to be about 70 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 2: the defense, and we talked. We've talked about that ever 71 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: since we knew that he was coming aboard. But Ron 72 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: Washington is now on site. He told me, Luisa Rise 73 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,839 Speaker 2: is a pro once I get guys, really, the thing 74 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: is the buy in that he is all about. You 75 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: show up. I'm gonna teach you what to do. You 76 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: were gonna listen, You're gonna put it into practice. You've 77 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: you've been there, fp you've done it. And once you 78 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: do that and you established the routine, you're gonna get 79 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: it and you will be a better feeling. And he 80 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: thinks that Luis Rice can be a good second basement 81 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: and that's all the Giants are looking for. They're not 82 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: looking for a goal glove second basement. It clearly means 83 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: a lot to him to play second and I love 84 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: hearing that. 85 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, he had me in his first quote when he 86 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: said I don't like strikeout and when he said I 87 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: don't like strikeout on my good strikeouts, hate strikeouts. But 88 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 1: I was super cute. I always said it, and it 89 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: was like one of the first things that came out 90 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: of his mouth. I've always thought, Susan, I've said it 91 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: on here before that defense is an attitude. If you 92 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: want to get better at it, it's a lot of work, 93 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: and if you're willing to put the time in and 94 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: you have the work ethic and the right attitude that 95 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: I want to play this position and I want to 96 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: get better at it, and then you have the resources 97 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: at the major league level to get better at You 98 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: got a million coaches, you know, half of them are 99 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: sitting around nothing to do. Grab somebody have him hitcha 100 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: fungos at one o'clock. And now on top of that, 101 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: you have one of the best in field coaches in 102 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: Ron Washington. I've talked about a million times on the 103 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: show about how he kind of changed my outlook towards 104 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: second base. And I was always a good fielder, and like, 105 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: right when you think you know everything, you still learn 106 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: something from somebody like Wash, and I mean that's perfectly sad. Like, 107 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: if you're willing to come out here put in the work, 108 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna get better. And I watched the ground balls 109 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: today and from a trained eye, he's fine. I know 110 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: there's just fun gos in the ground balls, but it 111 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: wasn't like I'm seeing. I saw Luciano take ground balls 112 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: the first day and spring training about three years ago, 113 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: and I went, WHOA. Like the first ground ball, it 114 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: was very clunky, it was very heavy footed. It is 115 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: very stabby and jabby at the baseball. But I watched 116 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: the rise of actions staying about ten ground balls, Casey 117 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: Smith standing right behind him, and hey, I'd like I've 118 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 1: said a million times, I am not worried about his defense. 119 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: I think with Ron Washington there and based on his 120 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: attitude alone, even if Wash wasn't there, if he wants 121 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: to get better at it, he's going to get better 122 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: at it. And that's not a concern for me. 123 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 2: You know. The main thing, obviously is the bat, and 124 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: I think he automatically gets makes the Giants line up longer, deeper, 125 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: the guys who will be hitting in the spots behind him. 126 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 2: Tuck too and Domas Chapman. They're sort of salivating at 127 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 2: the prospect potentially of having him batting lead off or second, 128 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 2: somewhere in the order ahead of them. Patrick Bailey told 129 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: me something interesting. He said, like, this is a guy 130 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: who drove me nuts as a catcher. Like there is 131 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: no game planning. He said, he's plan proof essentially. You can't. 132 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: You know, it doesn't matter the count, it doesn't matter 133 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 2: the picture. He's probably going to put the bat on 134 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: the ball and asking Buster. You know, Buster's this is 135 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 2: a pattern now with Buster Posey. He likes contact hitters. 136 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: We saw that with the trades last summer, we saw 137 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 2: that in the draft, and certainly now with a rise 138 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 2: he's the sort of the ultimate contact hitter. That to 139 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: add And I asked him, why do you like contact 140 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: hitters so much? Like, what is it? Like this is 141 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 2: kind of going against the grain of the you know, 142 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: the analytics craze was all launch angle and the three 143 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: true outcomes, and it really changed baseball. I think in 144 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: some ways for the worst. Things always come back around 145 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: in baseball, though, and Buster said, like, look, I don't 146 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: want to and line up made up entirely of contact hitters. 147 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: We've got plenty of guys who strike out a lot, 148 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: but they're the guys clearly who are going to provide 149 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: the power, et cetera. But you want some contact hitters, 150 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: didn't you know? Kind of goes without saying, this is 151 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: pretty much the best contact hitter in the game right now, 152 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 2: certainly right up there. But he said when it gets 153 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,559 Speaker 2: to the postseason, and this is key. I think for Buster, 154 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: the contact hitters are the ones who are really key, 155 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: the guys who are striking out. You know, if you've 156 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: got a team where you've got fifteen sixteen strikeouts a game, 157 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: and this is Buster. These are not the teams that advance, 158 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: the teams that put the ball in play, put the 159 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: pressure on the defense, get into the pitcher's mind. These 160 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: are the teams at advance. Now, I did sneak a 161 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: peek at Luis or Rise posting season numbers, which are 162 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: not necessarily to date necessarily what you'd be looking for. 163 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: But I do like the concept, and I love contact 164 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: hitter the whole I was in Oakland for the whole 165 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: moneyball thing. I am not necessarily a big proponent of 166 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: the three two out the three true outcomes thing. I 167 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: saw a lot of guys standing there looking at called 168 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: strike three with runners on third, and I don't like it. 169 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: I want to contact guy in those situations. 170 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: You know else you couldn't game plan for back in 171 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: the day. And I'm not making this comparison, but it 172 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: jogged my memory as Tony Gwyn. Tony Gwyn used to 173 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: throw the ball right down the middle and hope he 174 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: got himself out. You couldn't go hard in soft the way. 175 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: You couldn't fool him. You couldn't trick him, and it 176 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: was frustrating for catchers. And I had pictures come up 177 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 1: to me and like, how do you pitch this guy? 178 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: And like, throw it right down the middle, hope he 179 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: gets himself out. There's no game plan. Same thing with 180 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: Vladimir Guerrero. There was no game plan for that guy 181 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: because he was such a bad ball hitter and he 182 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: covered so many different quadrants of the strike zone north, south, east, 183 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: and west. So there's certain guys like that where you 184 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: just hope he gets it at somebody. But like one 185 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty one hits last year led all of 186 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: baseball's one hundred and eighty one hits. He's a three 187 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: time batting champion. I saw somebody ask him a question, 188 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: Buster a question today about like it was kind of 189 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: a leading question about why didn't anybody else want Luisa 190 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: Rise And Buster even called him out and said, like 191 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: it was a leading question, I think. And he's like 192 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: he fits good into our lineup, Like, and he mentioned 193 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: that when you get to the playoffs, it's all ones 194 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: and twos. It's the best pitchers in baseball. You wouldn't 195 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: have got there unless you didn't have a good staff 196 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: and the teams that put the ball in play. And 197 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: I think Toronto struck out the lowest amount of any 198 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: team in baseball last year, a perfect example putting the 199 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: ball in play, putting pressure on the defense. Buster likes 200 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 1: aggressive baseball and putting the ball in play with two 201 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: strikes as aggressive. So I mean I wanted I told 202 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: you this is repeating myself, but I wanted this guy 203 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: before he went to the Padres, I thought the Giants 204 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: could have traded for him and he would have been 205 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: nice piece. But now they have him, he's gonna learn 206 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: second base. It sounds like he's a great teammate. Like 207 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: his videos in the cage suason, his work ethic before 208 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: the game were legendary. This guy it's after it. He 209 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: works hard every day. So if he takes pride in 210 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: his defense as much as his offense and has a 211 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: chip on his shoulder like Okay, I want to play 212 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: second and I want to prove you wrong. I mean, 213 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: that's exactly what the doctor order for wash Man. It's 214 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a good fit. That stuff. 215 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: That stuff all RUPs off too. I mean when you 216 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: have guys sort of setting that standard, and they certainly 217 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 2: do it several different spots. Matt Chapman was out there 218 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 2: working for with Ron Washington for a long time. Today, 219 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: Matt Chapman, he wants to get and you know, good 220 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: solid base going for his defense. This guy has two 221 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: platinum gloves. This stuff does you know? The younger players 222 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 2: look at that. That's that's gonna help all the way around. 223 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 2: But I think the giants people, I think are now 224 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: maybe not with the addition of a rise, but I 225 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 2: think people are still kind of sleeping on the giants. 226 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: And I know people are going to go this is 227 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: homery looking at it. I'm trying to look at it 228 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 2: totally objectively. But you had a rise, who is you 229 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: know at three three? Well, I think lifetime hitter and 230 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 2: we don't. Yeah, we don't care about average, but the 231 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 2: guy's getting on base. You need somebody to get on base. 232 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 2: How many times last season was it just a matter 233 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 2: if they just weren't they just weren't hanging There was 234 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 2: nobody on It was such an erratic lineup. He is 235 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 2: not a rattic. This guy is pretty clockwork. He will 236 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 2: get on base. I like it. 237 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: I like to putting the ball in play with a 238 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: runner on third less than two outs. So how many 239 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: times have we see strikeouts in that situation over the 240 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 1: past two or three years? So I'm okay. I think 241 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: he drove in sixty something runs last year in a 242 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: position so if you put the ball in play, good 243 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: things happen. And that's just that's a cliche, but it's 244 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: it's fact. 245 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 2: And they've got so They've got Chapman presumably healthy for 246 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 2: the whole year. William Domas is over his I'm new 247 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 2: to this team. I've got this big contract, weird offensive. 248 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 2: They've got Devors for the full season, and he's now comfortable, 249 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: and he's comfortable at first even you know, you go 250 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: down thet you know Jungu Lee should be better. He 251 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 2: was supposed to be the contact guy, he should be better, 252 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 2: so you would imagine he contributes more. You could all 253 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: the way down to the bottom. And I've said this 254 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: so many times that I hope I'm not jigsing things. 255 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: But Patrick Bailey was really starting to figure some things out. 256 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: And I talked to him today and he you know, 257 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 2: I think he still feels really good with where his 258 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 2: swing is. And if he's even just sort of hitting 259 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: a major league average for a catcher, that's a big 260 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: wing win for the Giants, and that's a really pretty 261 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 2: good lineup. It's not the Dodgers. Nobody's the Dodgers, probably 262 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 2: not the Padres right hand, but it's maybe upper half offense. 263 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 2: And now at some point we'll again get back to 264 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 2: the bullpen, because I spent a lot of time asking 265 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 2: Poster about the bullpen, because I'm still I think there's 266 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: a lot the bullpen's a mystery right now. 267 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: Patrick Bailey's my pick to click this year because he's 268 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,719 Speaker 1: been a low energy guy at sometimes it's kind of 269 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: understandable at his position. But if he has a high 270 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: energy manager, that might rub off on him and you 271 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: might get the best version of Patrick Bailey on both 272 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: sides of the baseball this year. When you got a 273 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: guy that's a future Hall of Fame catcher as your boss, 274 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: I would feel like that puts a little pressure on 275 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: you to bring it every single day too. What were 276 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: your impressions of Tony today? First time as a major 277 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: league skipper. He's sitting in the scrum. I heard a 278 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: lot of Tennessee today. He's still talking about his X 279 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: too much, in my opinion, But I love the guys 280 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: girlfriend a lot in the University of Tennessee, So there 281 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: was a lot of Tennessee talk today. But all around 282 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: I listened to the interview, it seemed like he was 283 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: excited to be there and excited to talk to you guys. 284 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: What was your impression? 285 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, what I think is going on. I don't really 286 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: know him well enough to really hazard a guess, but 287 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 2: I suspect that Tony Vaiello doesn't want to say too 288 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: much concrete about the team and you know, specific questions 289 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: dealing with the team, because he hasn't even gotten them 290 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 2: all together yet. He's still learning guys. Some guys aren't 291 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: even in camp yet. Like, he's not going to go 292 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: way far out and make any big, bold declarations on 293 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: the first day of all things. Uh, he's keeping it 294 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: kind of folksy and charming the way the way he has. 295 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 2: But you know, every every once in a while he'll 296 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: say something that's pretty interesting. I know you you picked 297 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 2: up on some of his thoughts on Bryce Eldrich, and 298 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: he's talked a lot about Bryce. He knows Bryce, he 299 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: recruited him. But it is kind of funny because you 300 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: catch him here saying they like little things that are 301 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 2: just kind of more college game, Like he keeps calling 302 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 2: Jase Taylor coach tingler. Okay, yeah, he'll get that all 303 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: that stuff. 304 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: Don't. 305 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 2: Actually it's actually given like it's kind of it's kind 306 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 2: of fun I like it. It's you know, we haven't 307 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: dealt with this before. It's it's kind of it is charming. 308 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the fans don't know of watching this right 309 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: now that there's no coaches. Like there's a pitching coach 310 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: and a hitting coach, but you don't call coaches coaches 311 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: in the big leagues. You call him either skipper or 312 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: you call the coach by his first name, which was 313 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: something I had to adjust to. I remember my first 314 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: day in professional baseball, I called my manager coach and 315 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: Matt Stairs was the salty old veteran in a ball 316 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: He goes, hey, we don't call him coach here. He 317 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: called him by the first name, idiot, something like that. 318 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: So it's just a it's hey, this is all gonna 319 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: take care of itself. It's kind of cute, like you said, 320 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: right now, it's cute. He did talk about Bryce. He's 321 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: gonna be fine. I have the utmost confidence in him. 322 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: Baseball's baseball, and he's gonna figure it out on the fly, 323 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: and he's gonna figure every day is such a learning curve. 324 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: It's like when we were in our twenties. Every year 325 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: when we were in our twenties was like ten years 326 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: from twenty to twenty one, and twenty years old twenty 327 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: one to twenty two. They just seemed like in your twenties, 328 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: every single year was like ten and every single day 329 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: might be like ten years. To Tony Vitello at the 330 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: major league level, So off to a good start. I 331 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: like the questions about Bryce Elders today. I thought Tony 332 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: had some really telling comments about Bryce, and if you 333 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: read between the lines there, it seems like he and 334 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: Buster both talked about Bryce today. But maybe your thoughts 335 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: on Tony and what he said about Bryce Eldridge, and 336 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: I'll read some quotes here when you're done. 337 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: Well, we know that Tony Vaytello has been a Bryce 338 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 2: Eldridge fan since he recruited him. He's a well aware 339 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 2: of who he is. He's said nice things about him 340 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: now at every fan fest and here in the first 341 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 2: day of pitchers and catchers workout. And I think it's 342 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 2: in Bryce. The impression I get both from Buster and 343 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 2: from Tony Vitello is this is kind of in Bryce's hands, 344 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 2: a good spring. He's on the team. But I think 345 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: even more important than what people are saying is you 346 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: look at the fact they add luis a rise. They've 347 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: been targeting second base as a place to put somebody 348 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: all winter, either via the trade or free agency. Obviously, 349 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: as we talked about, you know, they'd looked at Brandon 350 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 2: Donovan and of course Nico Horner. The fact that second 351 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: was where they were looking when they have essentially a 352 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: DH spot open. Now, look, you can run everybody through 353 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: the DH spot and kind of you know, use say, 354 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 2: use Casey Schmid as a super utility, or Tyler Fitzgerald 355 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: or jar and co Nacione could DH there are other 356 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 2: things you could do. But the fact that they were 357 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 2: sort of clearly leaving that spot open and not signing 358 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 2: a DH and not signing a rise to DH specifically 359 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: to play second, that tells me that Bryce Eldridge is 360 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 2: the leader in the clubhouse. 361 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll see. I think personally, you get too 362 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: excited about a guy in spring training, you get two 363 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: down on a guy in spring training that it's just 364 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: spring training. That sometimes when the bright lights come on, 365 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: it's different either way where the guy hits one hundred 366 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: and spring training opening day gets three hits, or where 367 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: the guy hits five hundred with ten home runs in 368 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: spring training and goes one fir his first twenty. I 369 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: think I've played for a lot of managers, and you know, 370 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: I never say a bad thing about Felipe Alou. You know, 371 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: he's my hero. And but Felipe was guilty about getting 372 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: excited about guys a little bit. You know, it was 373 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: the worst ever Sparky Anderson. You'd be like, this is 374 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: the next Mickey Mantle, and you would say stuff like 375 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: that in the spring train the guy who do you 376 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: make the team? Also, he had some good quotes. He 377 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: said he's incredibly mature as a kid. This is Tony 378 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: talking about Brice, he said, But repetitions and conversations are 379 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: just maturing so that he's a complete player. I think 380 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: is the key to him becoming the best version of himself. 381 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: I love that. And then and if he becomes the 382 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: best version of himself, you know, I don't. I think 383 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: you guys will hammer me a little worse than Knoxville. 384 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: There's a Tennessee reference. We've got to put a fine 385 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: in the kangaroo court for everyone if I say something 386 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: that doesn't happen. So maybe that's why Tony's a little 387 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: bit garden guarded. But I think he's the best version 388 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: of himself, he said. But I think, if excuse me, 389 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: he's the best version of himself. He's around the giants 390 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: pretty dang often, and maybe even on opening day. Let's 391 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: say it like that. 392 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, And of course we always have to remember that 393 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 2: the coaching staff has a lot of input, the manager 394 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 2: has a ton of input into the final roster, but 395 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: ultimately it's going to be the front office with any 396 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: of the personnel decisions. So it's going to be in 397 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 2: Buster's hands, Zack Nanassian's hands with a big sort of 398 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 2: push I think from Tony Vaitello, but I kind of 399 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: think unless he falls on his face, I'm pretty sure, 400 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 2: or you know what, if there's another move, or even 401 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 2: if like say Gerar Incarnacion has who's out of options, 402 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: like Luis Mantos, if he has a huge spring again 403 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 2: and he was having a nice spring. You'll remember last 404 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 2: year when when until he dove and hurt his hand, 405 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 2: you know, he still potentially got a shot. And if 406 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: Bryce does open the season at Sacramento, it is no 407 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 2: slight to Bryce Eldridge. He is so young, he's twenty one, 408 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 2: he is he has not had that much time at Sacramento. 409 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: Even so that's not going to be like it's a 410 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 2: win win either way. Breaks camp with a team great, 411 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 2: goes to Sacramento, probably probably see him pretty quickly no 412 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,479 Speaker 2: matter what. So sometimes teams try to sneak their guys 413 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,239 Speaker 2: who are out of option onto the roster for an 414 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 2: extra week or two early in the season so they 415 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 2: can keep them if they take them off the roster 416 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 2: at some point. Maybe they might try to do that 417 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: with a Mantos or and Canacion. Who knows, but I 418 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: really do think that that right now, Bryce Eldridge. It 419 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 2: sounds like is in the driver's sept from what everyone 420 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 2: is saying, and I think from the fact that they 421 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 2: were targeting second base. So the question then is what 422 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: happens with Casey Schmidt. We've been asking that forever, ever 423 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 2: since we learned that they were talking about second base 424 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 2: as a possibility, but certainly since the Rizens broke buster said, 425 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 2: you know, super utility and move around, and I guess 426 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 2: he's kind of like the backup midfielder. 427 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: Monthly weld your thought on Casey Schmidt. We got to 428 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: take care of some business because we've been yapping a 429 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: little bit too long here, But we got a commercial 430 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: for you guys, and then we'll be right back after this. 431 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,959 Speaker 3: Nobody likes a bloated cell phone bill. 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Did anybody talk about Casey 462 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: being an outfielder too, because I'm sticking to that. I 463 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: haven't heard anything, but I feel like he's okay. He'd 464 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: be okay to play out there because he can run 465 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: a little bit. 466 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 2: It's think it's sort of been vaguely mentioned. Nobody said 467 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: it outright. I don't. I don't think anybody would be 468 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: surprised if we suddenly saw him out there shagging once 469 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 2: in a while. I've heard really good things about Tyler Fitzgerald. 470 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: He's sort of been playing everywhere that checked in with 471 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 2: Tyler today. He's got four gloves. He's ready to play 472 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 2: in the outfield if needed. Uh. And the coaching staff 473 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 2: seems like and this is every spring, really, coaching staff says, 474 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 2: Tyler Fitzgerald looks great. Thinks that he could be a 475 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 2: contributor at some point. So you like hearing that he's 476 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 2: got He's a guy who I think sometimes it's the 477 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 2: confidence more and the skill set. We've seen. We've seen 478 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 2: what Tyler Fitzgerald can bring, including some pop, but he 479 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 2: gets a little in his own head. If he can 480 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: figure out a way to get out of that. And 481 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: this is somebody like Ron Washington I think could be 482 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 2: very helpful here because Tyler Fitzgerrow was really struggling defensively 483 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 2: at times and you could see him thinking on the field, 484 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,239 Speaker 2: which is never good. I think Ron Washington could really 485 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 2: help somebody like Tyler Fitzgerald. And then you look at 486 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: the group of guys Tyler Fitzgerald, Casey Schmidt, Christian Costs. Potentially, 487 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 2: if you have a need, you could trade one or 488 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: more of those guys if you have a need, because 489 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 2: I think there are scouts out there who come in 490 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 2: and really like the looks of Tyler Fitzgerald and everybody 491 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 2: knows you know that he certainly has thumb tools that 492 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: he that are are really pretty could be pretty outstanding 493 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 2: at the big, big level. 494 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're dead on. I think it is 495 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: a confidence thing. But for me with Tyler, loved the 496 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 1: person like the sweetest guy in the clubhouse period. Like 497 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: you don't say a guy could date your daughter, but 498 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: if that's a baseball player when you've done it for 499 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 1: a living, like that's a big statement for me because 500 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: you know, you've been around a long time, but he's 501 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: just the nicest kid in the whole world always says 502 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: high to me. I mean, there's too much swing and 503 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: miss for me with that kind of speed, Like he's 504 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: a burner burner, Like he's above average runner. And if 505 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: he could just find a way to like have some 506 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: sort of two strike approach. And it's so easy to 507 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: stay on a podcast, right when guys are throwing one 508 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: hundred and ten miles an hour with exploding sliders, but 509 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: some sort of consistency with two strikes just to hit 510 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 1: a ground ball. You talk about putting pressure on a defense. 511 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: If that guy can go there used to be a 512 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: saying down and run if you were a speed guy, 513 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: like get on top of it and run down and run. 514 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: He's a perfect example of that. But I think he's 515 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 1: got just enough sneaky pop, as we saw with that 516 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: home run streak a couple of years ago. What was 517 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: it like seven games or something, six games, seven games 518 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: with the home run in a row. He's got just 519 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: enough pop. But okay, that's great until you get the 520 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: two strikes. But now I want him choking up forty 521 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: six inches and just like punching it somewhere to get 522 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: his speed on defense, to put pressure on the defense. 523 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: But the tools, the tool set is there, the arm, 524 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: the ability to play different positions, the pop, the speed. 525 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: It's just a little too much swing and miss right 526 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: now for me, and maybe he can make that adjustment. 527 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: All right, Susan, empty the bag right here. You're at 528 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: your hundred pitch count. We're at the last segment of 529 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: the show. You're tired, so we're making it a quick 530 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: one today. You're any other thoughts on your first day 531 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: in Scottsdale, first day of Spring Trains? Did you want 532 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: to mention here? 533 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 2: Well, I will say, you know, we'll get it. We'll 534 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 2: definitely do Maybe we could even do a whole show 535 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: on the book because it remains a mystery. And I 536 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 2: was trying to like Pokebuster, like what are you going 537 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: to do there? And are you going to do anything more? 538 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 2: We've all kind of been circling around that, and it's 539 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 2: clear that some of the young starters, they're all going 540 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 2: to get stretched out to start. But it sounds like 541 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 2: one or more in the mix potentially for the bookbend. 542 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 2: That's not news. But I talked to Carson wizzen Hunt 543 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 2: today and he's sort of changing a sort of now 544 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 2: got a slurf, which he's really happy with. He's really 545 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 2: looking forward to seeing like the kind of reactions he 546 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 2: gets when a hitters in the box, because he hasn't 547 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 2: had that yet. So that's something to keep an eye on. 548 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 2: I love his stuff, and I you know, he's he's 549 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 2: the one guy that hasn't we haven't really seen in 550 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 2: the bullpen out of the McDonald's and bird Songs and 551 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 2: the Landern Roupe was in the bullpen for a while 552 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 2: like all of them. This seems to be this so 553 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 2: maybe it's his turn, but keep an eye on him. 554 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 2: And I'm so I was so happy when I saw 555 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 2: Will Bednar on the list of non roster guys. He's 556 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: completely been kind of fallen out of people's minds. You know, 557 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 2: an first round pick a few years ago, lots of 558 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: injuries issues, a back thing, which that's not good. But 559 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 2: now he's a reliever like his brother David, who's a 560 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 2: closer for oh the Yankees, and he's talked to him 561 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 2: a lot. You know, they exchange ideas and so that's 562 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: a good person to have in your corner. But the 563 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 2: stuff is good. Now, is he going to break camp 564 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 2: with the big league team? No, but he's very likely 565 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 2: to be at Sacramento, if not to start the season 566 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: pretty soon, and from there, if there's a need in 567 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 2: a bullpen and he's pitching, well, you never know. So 568 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,719 Speaker 2: I'm really excited to see him. He's got the best attitude. 569 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 2: He's so excited, like practically punching the air kind of 570 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 2: thing to be in big league camp finally, you know, 571 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 2: after being such a high profile picks. So I'm really 572 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 2: happy to see that and real kind of interested to 573 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 2: see it, Like he's just almost dancing around. It's really fun. 574 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: If there's any hiccups with Ryan Walker, this might be 575 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: the most out of the box take I've had on 576 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: the show. I think Hayden Bird's song would be a 577 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: great closer. He's just got the mentality, he's got the makeup, 578 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: he's got the moxie, he's got the forgettability if he 579 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: has a bad one, he throws one hundred miles an 580 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 1: hour with a wipeout curveball and you only need two 581 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: pitches out of the bullpen. He's just got closer written 582 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: all over him. I know, maybe you don't give up 583 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: on a kid that's that good as a starter this quick. 584 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: But if there's a need. God, he just can. That's 585 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: a guy you play the lights for and all the 586 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: music for. And I hope Ryan Walker figures it out, 587 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: because he's as dirty as anybody when he's stepping into 588 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: the giant stug out thrown back this way with his slider. 589 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: And if he gets a little bit bigger out there 590 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: in the confidence this year, a lot like Hayden, I 591 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,719 Speaker 1: guess they're kind of two guys that had a lot 592 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: of stuff going on up here last year. But if 593 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: there is a hiccup and he can't overcome that beast 594 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: that is the ninth inning and where we saw him 595 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: stopping his delivery mid delivery a couple of times and 596 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 1: walking and you could just tell he was overthinking it. 597 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: Talking about Walker, I think bird Song would be just 598 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: he's got He's got the mentality, the makeup and the 599 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: stuff to be a good big league closer. 600 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 2: I don't hate it. I mean there's other possibilities out there. 601 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 2: Eric Miller, if he's fully healthy, and he says he is, 602 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 2: I certainly hope so he could do it. Joel Puguero 603 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 2: I really liked his stuff. He wasn't, you know, as successful, 604 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: maybe as you want to see down the stretch last year. 605 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 2: But man, he's shared some flashes of terrific stuff. And 606 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: you know there are a few other guys, but you 607 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: know they got question marks. That's just an area. Like 608 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 2: we've been looking forward to having things to talk about FP, 609 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: I feel as if we're gonna spend a lot of 610 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 2: time this spring talking about the bullpen. 611 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see. Tony talked about it today and 612 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: he loves competition. There's gonna be some good competition for 613 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: those bullpen spots. Susan, thanks for being a gamer today. No, 614 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: never a doubt. I knew you'd be ready for this 615 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: after being in the dugout doing interviews all day, getting 616 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: in at two in the morning, not by your own 617 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: choice but by your flight's choice, which is something new 618 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: for you. Probably you did a great job today, And 619 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: everybody out there, keep subscribing, keep liking. You guys are 620 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,719 Speaker 1: doing awesome. Like everywhere Susan and I go, people are 621 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: stopping us Giants fans. We love your podcast. So this 622 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: is game momentum. We want you guys to be a 623 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,959 Speaker 1: part of it, and we're super thankful that you are 624 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: so far. But tell your friends, tell everybody this is 625 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: only gonna get better. We're gonna grab players during the season. 626 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna bring them on. We're the manager on Buster On. 627 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: It's just gonna, it's gonna, it's it's growing, it's gonna 628 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: keep growing. But thanks to you guys and Susan, thanks 629 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: a lot for coming on today. And like I say 630 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: on the way out, every single time, swing hard in 631 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: case you hit it squat