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Listen to Crazy and Love 35 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,639 Speaker 1: the entire month of February on the iHeartRadio app, Apple 36 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: podcast asked or wherever you get your podcasts? What can 37 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: I say? Love? Med Me Crazy? Welcome to Reparations The 38 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: Big Payback, a production of color Farm Media, iHeartRadio and 39 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: The Black Effect podcast Network. I'm Erica Alexander and I 40 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: Whitney down. There's no reef reparations and what is needed 41 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: for people. We are the ones that were injured, solos 42 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: and solos enslavement is stuff. The people who are owed 43 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: for slavery are no longer here. I want to check. 44 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: I don't think reparations is a good idea. Everyone should 45 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: be given the damage that was done to their family 46 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: cash payment. I don't want to no government, and though 47 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: reparations should be welcomed by all, some folks may want checks. 48 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: But what we're really talking about is closing that wealth 49 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: gap and making people hold me here. We are on 50 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: the corner of Wall and Broad Street, one of the 51 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: most like famous corners in America. Right, it's the seat 52 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: of capitalism. We're standing at the feet of George Washington, 53 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: founder of our country, who's looking across Wall Street at 54 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: the New York Stock Exchange. Is this it? This is it? 55 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: It's smaller than I thought. It looks more oppressive than pictures. 56 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: I was doing a little research before we came down 57 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: here Erica. And you know, the value of the companies 58 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: contained in the New York Stock has changes over thirty 59 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: trillion dollars. That's ten trillion dollars, more than the nation's 60 00:03:54,520 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: GDP every year or thirty Amazon and the value and 61 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: the amount of trading that is done every day there 62 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: are out of money that passes through. There is I 63 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: think over one hundred and sixty billion dollars every day. 64 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: When you think of Wall Street, what do you think 65 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: of I think of this. I mean, it's a lot 66 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: of stone. There's all these really beautiful polished bronze doors 67 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: with sparkling glass and a lot of really decorative iron 68 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: work around, and it's kind of telling everybody, well, if 69 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: you're a white man, you can come in, but everybody 70 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: else stay out. Meant to intimidate, and it does. It's 71 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: not only intimidating to New Yorkers, but I think it's 72 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: meant to be intimidating to the world. What I didn't 73 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: realize is that directly across the street is Federal Hall's 74 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: walk up there a little bit America. We're standing in 75 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: front of Federal Hall Memorial, and that's another gothic building, 76 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: and out in front of it there's a statue of 77 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: George Washington. And it really struck me and I saw us, 78 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: here's the founder of our country, and he's looking across 79 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: the street at the stock Exchange as if he's looking 80 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: at the capitalist foundation of the country. But this is 81 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: where he took the oath of office upstairs in this building. Wow. Yeah, 82 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: they really did a nice job on the bronze work 83 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: near his crutch. And it matters because you're looking up 84 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: at him and you're meant to see his penis first 85 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: and then go up to his face and follow his 86 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: eyes to the stock Exchange. At least that's not what 87 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: I see at our back is George Washington. If we 88 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: look to our right, we can see Trinity Church, the 89 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: oldest church. I think he's one of those churches in 90 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: the country, oldest church in New York. If you look 91 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: across the street directly in front of us as a 92 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: stock exchange, and then if you look down the street 93 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: to the water, do you know what's down that street 94 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: the location of New York's first slave market that was 95 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: founded in seventeen eleven. So we should have, like the 96 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: four points of the compass, in America, we have politics, money, religion, slavery. 97 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: That sounds right. Black people will always make up the 98 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: four points. And in fact none of these things could exist. 99 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: These politics, that religion, or that money without slavery, And 100 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: that's the unfortunate part. For them to have white freedom 101 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: and white success, they needed black bodies. You know, when 102 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: I met you, Whitney, I had no idea that I 103 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: would be stuck with you for this long. We've been 104 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: talking about reparations for two years. It's only been two 105 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,679 Speaker 1: years for us, but it's been one hundred and fifty 106 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: years for our country. Did you ever imagine yourself making 107 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: a project about reparations with a guy named Whitney Burton 108 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: Dow from the colony of Cambridge, Massachusetts. No, like you 109 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: often point out a rolling of a wasp or a colonist. Well, yeah, 110 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: I guess if you come from Cambridge, Massachusetts in your 111 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: name Mats Whitney Burton Dow, you look a little whitish. 112 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, but who better than you to represent for 113 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: your people? Well, if you're talking about white people, yes, yes, 114 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: I'm white people. Yeah, you're a guy white people in America. 115 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: That's you. Well, Hamas Hollywood. You know you're no pauper. 116 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: I've seen your house. If you did, you wouldn't be 117 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: saying that I need reparations just as much as anybody. 118 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: I am. No Cambridge Whitney Dow and I didn't just 119 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: pop into people's movie screens and on stages and in 120 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: theaters all over the world. I have an origin story. 121 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: We all have origin stories. And origin stories are how 122 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: you live. They don't hopefully determine who you are. Yeah, 123 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: it's about the stories we tell ourselves. And I guess 124 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: story shape our present reality. And I think that's where 125 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: every story starts. Every good story is between reality and myth. Like, 126 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:06,119 Speaker 1: what's possible telling the truth? Well, you're setting a pretty 127 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: high bar that you and I are going to get 128 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: to the truth. Everybody lives different truths now. I think 129 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: your truth is mixed me a lot alive. Thanks for that. 130 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: Are you talking about me personally, Erica or collectively as 131 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: the white guy here? Both reparations. It's a complicated issue, 132 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: and I'm not sure if I'm the right person to 133 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: tell the story with you, Erica. Yeah, I might be 134 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: too white. Well, I'm extra black, I'm extra crispy black. 135 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: Does that offset some of my whiteness? Is that what 136 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: you're saying? No, No, you're white. You white. You gotta 137 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: live with it, you know, any of my problem, I'm 138 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: gonna coattail on your blackness here. By the way, this 139 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 1: is a conversation. If we're going to go on this 140 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: journey about reparations, it ain't about you. No, you would 141 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: say it is about you. But I'm Harry, it's child 142 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: you hear me. I'm here to rescue my people. And 143 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: the last time I checked, we just got a new 144 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: black woman VP. Right now I'm feeling like, ain't nothing 145 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: too big for me? And if not you Whitney, then 146 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: who step up? If we're going to do this, We've 147 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: got to make a plan. We've got to find experts. 148 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: We gotta, you know, find people who actually know what 149 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: they're talking about. Oh, just goose your eyes and make 150 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: a wish count to three. Yeah, that's come on. That's 151 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: Sheila Jackson Lee. That's Congressional hearing on HR forty nineteen. 152 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: America is a place and welcomes the diversity of thought. 153 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: We even welcome the diversity of thought among the multi 154 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: colored chocolate people that are African Americans. Did you hear 155 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: that multi colored chocolate? Do you see how she got down, 156 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: old girl as a warrior? If we were to pay 157 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: reparations today, we would only divide the country further. About 158 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: to turn on him like mister and colored purple. Reparations, 159 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: by definition, are only given to victims. Victims had no consent. 160 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: What you're supposed to say? I give you permission to 161 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: rid Lady Massa. You here comes Donnis, Mister Wakanda, buckle up. 162 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: We recognize our lineage as a generational trust as inheritance, 163 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: and the real dilemma posed by reparations is just that, 164 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: a dilemma of inheritance. Yep, that's what's happening in DC. 165 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: I guess that's why HR forty, a built to discuss reparations, 166 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: has been stuck in committee for thirty years. But meanwhile, 167 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: on these mean streets here we are out here, man, 168 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: it's crazy. 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Oh snapp, it's the New 197 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: York's Municipal slave Market. There's a sign here areably less 198 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: than two feet across and just over one foot high. 199 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: It is drawing on it and has the green New 200 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: York Parks emblement. It says on Wall Street between Pearl 201 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: and Water Streets, a market that auction enslaved people of 202 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: African ancestry was established by a common Council law on 203 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: November thirtieth, seventeen eleven. This is the New York's Municipal 204 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: slave market sign. But you can look up from this 205 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: site and see Trinity Church, and you can see the 206 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: New York Stock Exchange and the foundation of it all. 207 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: The American slavery gets a two by two plaque. No, 208 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: I've been here before, but this is the first time 209 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: I'm seeing this, so I'm a little pissed off. I 210 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: don't know why it's not more prominent. I don't know 211 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: why it's just a sign. Look, there's a big old 212 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: statue towards Washington over there. Big buildings that we talked 213 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: about with stones look like it should be here, and 214 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: this looked like it it could be knocked over by 215 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: a hard wind. How does it make you feel thinking 216 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: about all this, You're visibly upset, You're shaking. I'm much shaking. 217 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm upset. I mean, I really wish I could rip 218 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: that sucker out. It's not even worth it being there. 219 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: And then also I'm kind of mad because I haven't 220 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: been here before. I didn't see it. There are people 221 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: walking through, their immigrants and got their children, they've got 222 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: off their families. They should be able to see it. 223 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: There should be the stain of it in New Yorkers 224 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: should have to live with it, they should have to 225 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: learn about it, they should be confronted with it. I 226 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: want them to really acknowledge slavery. I want them to 227 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: give us justice. Black people want justice. We deserve it. 228 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: We should have it by any means necessary. And part 229 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: of that justice is that you should not be able 230 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: to come and walk by a slave market marker and 231 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: not be moved by it, or at least have to 232 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: reckon with it or see it. That was so brutal. 233 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: Being there with you, Erica, someone who I care about, 234 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: and seeing the vistal reaction, the pain that it caused 235 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: you to be there, it left me feeling kind of helpless. 236 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: And I know that if i'd been alone, If I 237 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: had been there by myself, I would have find some 238 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: way to push myself away from it and the absurdity 239 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: of it and just kind of intellectualize it. Where being 240 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: there with you forced me to own it a bit. 241 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: But that's my problem, not yours. It is your problem 242 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: and black people's burden to bear. I mean, we gave 243 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: you money and pay the big on your loan. Who 244 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: needs bootstraps when they've got friends like you, Whitney. That's 245 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: what I mean earlier when I said your truth is 246 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: filled with a lot of lies. These realities they show 247 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: up for me every day. Meanwhile, you're underwater thinking your 248 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: real estate has value. What I'm thinking about is solutions, 249 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: And I really believe the only way towards a true 250 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: reconciliation is to create a funded reparations program. And white 251 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: Americans do you have to decide if they want to 252 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: rise with Black Americans or fall with them. I see you, 253 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: Whitney down. You're doing something. I mean, you're here, you're 254 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: working on it, you're talking about it, But don't expect 255 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: the parade or props or showing up to clean up 256 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: the mess you've made. Yeah, it is a big mess 257 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: and Erica. You've told me in the past that you 258 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: feel like James Baldwin or taught in the Hasse Coats 259 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: has said that you don't really believe, you don't really 260 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: have faith that white people of the ability to change. 261 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: And I totally understand that if I were black, I 262 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: imagine I would feel the exact same way, and especially 263 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: looking at the events the last you know, a few 264 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: weeks and we've had three or four thousand white people 265 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: storming the Capitol and it looks horrible. Those images were 266 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: just like atrocious. But at the same time, we've also 267 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: had millions of white people in the street marching alongside 268 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: black and brown people protesting police violence. So that does 269 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: make me a little optimistic. I hope it doesn't sound 270 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: corny that I do believe we can change, right, Maybe 271 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: I feel like I kind of have to believe we 272 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: can change. Like in Evanston, Illinois, things are changing. I've 273 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: known his reparation Robin and rolls of parks. Now, so 274 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: that's different. How about that she's a rock star. Four 275 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: hundred years after the first enslaved Africans got off the boat, 276 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: Alderman Robin Ruth Simmons passes the first Reparations bill in 277 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: a man Erica, oh Man, talk about the long arc. 278 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: You got to keep an eye on her. We will, 279 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: but I want to show you something first. So Erica, 280 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: tell me what do you see here? What were you 281 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: walking up to? Oh, we're Duanne in Elk Street and 282 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: it says African burial ground way. So they're building a 283 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: federal building at two hundred fifty six million dollar building. 284 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: And when they broke ground on if they discovered this 285 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: burial ground, what does this say here? Changing landscape obscures 286 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: the past. The African burial ground was labeled Negroes Burial 287 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: Ground on the seventeen fifty five map at right. Colonial 288 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: New York laws banned African funerals and officially consecrated graveyards, 289 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: prohibited gatherings of large numbers of enslaved Africans, and decreed 290 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: that funerals had to be held during daylight. Nonetheless, Africans 291 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: and their descendants held burial ceremonies in amentary outside the 292 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: city wall, near a ravine. As New York City expanded northeast. 293 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: The burial ground was closed in seventeen ninety four and 294 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: eventually divided into lots for sale the land was filled 295 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: in and buildings were constructed on top. For almost two centuries, 296 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: New York City's growth obscured the graves, and the African 297 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: burial ground was nearly forgotten. So we tried to put 298 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: a Starbucks on it. It's a metaphor, right, The foundation 299 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: is African Americans. Americans built on top of it. They 300 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: turned their barrel ground into real estate. But that foundation 301 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: wasn't paid for. It was paid for in blood, guts 302 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: and suffering. I think fifty of the people buried here 303 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: were children. So we talk about reparations for work and 304 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:54,719 Speaker 1: value created, but what about reparations for all the people 305 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: that were destroyed by it? At fifty percent of it 306 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: as children, the people who actually never had a life. 307 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: So this is showing the levels of different centuries and 308 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: what they built on top of those coffins. It's a diagram. 309 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: We're a ground level, right, Yeah, We're a ground level. 310 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: So on top there's three different centuries. In the lowest, 311 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: righty year at least is the seventeen hundreds. People were 312 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: buried in individual coffins up to three deep. But that 313 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: looks exactly like the slave ship diagrams coming across. That's 314 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: interesting from Africa. So they went out like they came in. 315 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: That's a cold, cold thought. Let's walk up to the 316 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: next marker. This one is says Africans in early New 317 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: York before the American Revolution, New York had more enslaved Africans. 318 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: It's most valuable commodity than any other colony in the North. 319 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: You're leaving out the most important thing here. It's not 320 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: that these people were just here, they say, and they 321 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 1: give an account of their work. Women sewed, cooked, harvest, 322 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: didn't cared for owners, children, labors tore up cobblestone streets, 323 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: dug trenches, laid and joined the pipe sections, and filled 324 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: in the trenches. Pay one dollar a day in slave 325 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: workers wages went to their owners. That's real. Yeah. And 326 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: you know, one of the reasons why the slave market 327 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: was established down on Wall Street was because there were 328 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: so many enslaved Africans here and the actual way the 329 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: labor pool was structured wasn't really structure. There to sending 330 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: people out in the street to earn money, and they 331 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: wanted to sort of like codify into something more structure. 332 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: By the way, this whole thing is about white fear. Yeah, 333 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: you should be fucking afraid because if we ever get 334 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: what we deserve and if we ever start to balance 335 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: those books, there ain't no stopping us. And it's over. 336 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: It's not just the rebrowning of America, it's the black 337 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: nation coming into its own. So yeah, they try to 338 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: bury us too black, too strong. From seventeen ninety four 339 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: and estimated fifteen thousand enslaved in Free Africans were laid 340 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: to rest in the African Fifteen thousand bodies are here. 341 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: Seven burial mounds mark the locations of the re internments. 342 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: Oh here, they are over here, So this is it. 343 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: Look at the mounds here? Oh my god, Now to me, 344 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: this is significant. My god, look at that. What does 345 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: it make you feel to stand here and look at this? Well, 346 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: I'm very proud. I'm glad to see them. And I 347 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: don't know I gained comfort from them being here. I'd 348 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: come out here and eat my lunch with them. What 349 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: do you think? It's funny because you know, you look 350 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: over at the stone and it's all representational. This is 351 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: so much more concrete. These are real burial mounds. And 352 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: knowing that the remains line underneath it, and knowing that 353 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: they're aligned in a certain way with their heads facing Africa. 354 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: I think it's beautiful. It's beautiful. Hi. 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Plus each week you'll hear hilarious 386 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: stories like this at the end when he said you 387 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: got some Schmidt on your face. I feel like I 388 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 1: pitched that jomp. I believe that. I feel like I did. 389 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm not on a thousand percent I want to say 390 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: that was I tossed that without Listen to the Welcome 391 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: to Our Show podcast on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, 392 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: or wherever you got your podcasts, and they shall rise again. Hey, 393 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: you know they give tours of this stuff. M Black 394 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: Gotham thirty books. Totally worth it. Definitely, I'd buy several tickets. 395 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: I got to take my mom and show her all 396 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: these hidden gems because she's agree in the family. Oh man, 397 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: it's a shame because no matter how hard she worked 398 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 1: with me, it wasn't enough, and she won't live to 399 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: see a new world that's created through the application of reparations. 400 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: So like the Africans, underneath those buildings, it's gonna be 401 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: beyond her flesh and bone. But that means it's fertile ground. 402 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: It's very furtive. My mother's in it, it's blessed and 403 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: highly favored. Well, really strikes me about it, Eric, because 404 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: that it's called the African burial ground. But it's not 405 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: just African history. It's white history too, and it's history 406 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: that's layered across generations. And it's not just about what 407 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: happened before it happened hundreds of years ago. You can 408 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: also see in how it's impacted what's happening today and 409 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: how you and I how our own families are living 410 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: within the legacy of slavery. Yeah, no, I get it. 411 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: I mean My brother's a Philly copp and my sister 412 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: is a social worker, and they work within the racist 413 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: system that we're talking about every day. You know, that's 414 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: how they make their living. The weird part is if 415 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: systematic reformation is needed, and reparations is part of the cure, 416 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: we have to get ready because there's a whole lot 417 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: of black folks that are baked into the current architecture 418 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: and they ain't gonna get out. So, I mean, it's 419 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: a rough ride. It would disrupt everything. So we got 420 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: to be careful what we wish for first, to do 421 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: no arm Maybe we need to step out of our 422 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: current reality for a moment. Revend Barber says that we're 423 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: in the third week instruction. So Whitney, this is our 424 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: opportunity to map out a blueprint, to chart a new destiny, 425 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: to decide who our builders are, our architects, our machinists. 426 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: You would probably need a few arsonists. We're gonna have 427 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: to tear some things down along the way. But first 428 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: we need vision imagination. You mean a reimagination that's a 429 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,239 Speaker 1: new change. Oh, it's amazing what a good composition can 430 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: be to carry us away. Okay, I'm ready. I think, Well, 431 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: let's be real, you always feel your best at the 432 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: beginning of the marathon. I hope, I'm ready. Yeah, I hope. 433 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: I bought a black Power bar this season. On reparations 434 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: the big payback. I didn't have a lot of skills. 435 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: I was a bad student. That was kind of this 436 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: historic Charlie got thrown out of schools. I was always 437 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: getting too fights. So that's why you got into race work, 438 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: because you were a mediocre white man anywhere anywhere, exactly 439 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: what you're saying. I failed everywhere else, So race took 440 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 1: me in it. I made a career out of it 441 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: because that's what we need in this business. We need 442 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: to rejects awesome. Look, we have to define reparations. Some 443 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: people want to define reparations as a give me a check. 444 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: That's not reparations. They treat us like animals more or 445 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: less than like human beings. And we are the ones 446 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: who lost our lives building this country and got paid 447 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: not one dime for it. But everybody else is reaping 448 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,959 Speaker 1: the benefits. That's ople money. My life revolves primarily around 449 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: my discovery that my ancestors were the largest slave trading 450 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: family US history. When I looked at you, Wikipedia, my 451 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: god brother, you're not playing you like the John Lewis 452 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: of the Aristocrats the inspiration for me and Reparations. I 453 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: know that the injustice and the discrimination in the racism 454 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: is a shared problem, but which has to be confronted 455 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: if we're gonna move on successfully together. My life wouldn't 456 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: have been any different if I was black, because it's 457 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: the core of who you are. Everyone has a burden, 458 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,959 Speaker 1: it's how you handle the burden, and so I truly 459 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: don't feel that there was a privilege. Absolutely not. Um. 460 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: What happened was we were standing there and suddenly the 461 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: window shatters. The policeman told me that he was trying 462 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: to kill some blackbirds, meaning my children who were standing 463 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: at the window. Had it not been for a double 464 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: paned windows, probably I would have that morning lost two 465 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: of my children. If I had enough money to ease 466 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: the disparities and enough programs directed run by black people 467 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: to help us, then I would even be willing not 468 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: to have Campbell Harris speed vice president. What goes on 469 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: your playlist the reparations playlist? Well, what I play for 470 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: my students at the end of the semester is when 471 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: will we get paid? 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