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Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rut Fresh Radio, bringing you

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Speaker 1: First Light Go farther, stay longer, and now your hosts

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Speaker 1: Case Smith and Tyler Jones.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Refresh Radio. I'm your host k C. Smith,

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Speaker 2: and it is full fled December right now.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 2: That means late season patterns and all the good cold

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Speaker 2: stuff that comes with that. But there is still opportunity

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Speaker 2: to kill the buck of your lifetime. This is Retfresh.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: What is happening in all my woods people?

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Speaker 3: Where on the phone right now? Tyler Jones, what are

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Speaker 3: you doing?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, in Oklahoma?

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Speaker 5: Trying hard with it ain't half anyboy man.

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Speaker 2: Let me just ask you a general question because we're

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Speaker 2: gonna get into some some ret freshness here in a bit.

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Speaker 3: But does it work to try harder into your hunting? Tyler?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 7: It can?

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Speaker 4: It can't.

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Speaker 3: Good answer.

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Speaker 5: In fact, it usually does if you just say try harder.

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Speaker 5: If you're talking about going in further. It's not always

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Speaker 5: that way.

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Speaker 3: Now, got you? Got you, and that's something you're experiencing

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Speaker 3: at the moment.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, good, yes, dude.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been a hunted last night a mile and

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Speaker 5: a half like straight line. There's no telling how much

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Speaker 5: I actually walked because I went further than that in

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Speaker 5: and found out there wasn't a tree. According to the

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Speaker 5: aerial there was, but there wasn't a tree when I

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Speaker 5: got in there. So since the grass is I don't know,

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Speaker 5: seventeen eighteen foot, I decided to not hang out there

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Speaker 5: too long. Went got in a tree actually near some bag,

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Speaker 5: and had three dos and a spike come out within

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Speaker 5: bow range on me.

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Speaker 4: I picked the right tree. I just didn't see the

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Speaker 4: buck I wanted, So I don't know. I'm making a

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Speaker 4: I may try.

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Speaker 5: To get in further and deeper into the nasty, nasty

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Speaker 5: grass that is the Plain States.

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Speaker 4: This year, after all the timely rain they had.

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Speaker 3: Good golly man, that's uh.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like rich people problems, you know, like

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Speaker 2: we all complaining about the drought and then we have

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Speaker 2: this year, which we'll find out later from some of

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Speaker 2: our guests that the drought there is some drought in

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Speaker 2: the country, but the plane's got a lot of rain

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Speaker 2: and with that comes a ton of cover.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's what happens when you get rain in June.

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Speaker 5: But I don't think it's rained a whole lot sinse, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: cause I'm seeing the same thing. It's pretty they got

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Speaker 5: they had some snow and rain last week. So now there,

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Speaker 5: you know, it looks like it rained recently, and in fact,

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Speaker 5: I think it might have.

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Speaker 4: There's not many fresh tracks to be seen, so you

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Speaker 4: know what's fresh. I guess that's an upside to it.

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Speaker 5: But it has been pretty dry, I think since since

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Speaker 5: this summer and until just recently.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So you're gonna do kind of a guest to interview

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Speaker 2: kind of at the end of this thing, right, Uh,

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Speaker 2: but it's gonna be a little extended because you and

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Speaker 2: I have been hunting together some and we're apart right now.

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Speaker 3: So I'm interested in what you got going on.

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Speaker 2: But you're in Oklahoma, And would you say that in

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma you are still in the rut right now or

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Speaker 2: the deer are Maybe you're always in the rut, Tyler,

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Speaker 2: but what are the deers?

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Speaker 4: It's I just actually.

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Speaker 5: Just bombed into a spot that's remote and not super

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Speaker 4: There's a bunch of beaver sloughs and stuff around.

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Speaker 5: And the grass is super tall, and you're like backtrack

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Speaker 4: Got to cross over there, you know.

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Speaker 5: But I guess what I'm saying is I had this

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Speaker 5: A rub on the seed pretty high, and then there

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Speaker 5: So and then the rub also wasn't you know, for

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Speaker 5: appearing that way. In fact, I saw the spike come

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Speaker 5: was another deer with him over there. I don't know

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Speaker 5: what it was, but he never got frisky of.

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Speaker 2: So shooting monkey man, Well, it is kind of kind

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Speaker 2: of tough whenever you start encountering and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: And I think that this is something that a lot

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Speaker 2: of people around the country might start seeing, because you know,

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Speaker 2: two thirds of the country. He has a rut that

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Speaker 2: is based around November, right, And that's an arbitrarin number

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Speaker 2: focus their efforts on hunting during those times, and then

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Speaker 2: some guys tag out, some guys don't, and then there's

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Speaker 2: that's the thing that could be happening. How does the

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Speaker 3: What do you look.

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Speaker 2: For in a situation like that, Well, don't give me

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Speaker 3: I can tell it's what you're trying not to do.

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Speaker 5: Okay, it's uh, it's thick and it's remote, and those

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Speaker 5: are those are two places. It's the same things I

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Speaker 5: then like also just the overlook spot. So it's the

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Speaker 5: three spots that you always look for. But the problem

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Speaker 5: That's what I'm doing. And I'm dude, I'm telling you.

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Speaker 5: Last night I was like my my calves are on

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Speaker 5: And I mean it was just like, you know, just

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Speaker 4: That's that's another thing. It was it's pretty cold this morning.

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Speaker 5: In fact, it was cold enough that you know, when

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Speaker 5: I tried to separate my sticks, I just ripped my entire.

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Speaker 4: You know, all my skin off.

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Speaker 5: But it's it was like probably twenty eight this morning.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, you just gotta you just gotta be

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Speaker 5: I guess, and uh, you know, wants to go out

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Speaker 5: just use your map expertise and you know, you just say, okay,

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Speaker 5: well this should work.

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Speaker 4: It's overlooked.

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Speaker 5: Whatever I'm gonna, I'm gonna give her a shot, which

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Speaker 4: Fresh trails, and I bumped three doughs.

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Speaker 5: Out of a spot pretty like probably two ind of

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Speaker 4: So I mean, it can it can't work.

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Speaker 2: It's just so you know, we don't always we tend

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Speaker 2: But I think that that might not always be the best.

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Speaker 3: But we tend to not do that.

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Speaker 5: Roaman see this is I feel like we're getting back

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Speaker 5: into like our early seasoned pattern where rut's not raging.

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Speaker 5: I did see one buck yesterday, probably three quarters of

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Speaker 5: like a decent frame buck, and he just stared into

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Speaker 5: for like five minutes, and then he finally like took

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Speaker 5: But now I'm looking at sign and stuff and I'm

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Speaker 4: And I based off of.

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Speaker 5: you this morning, it just seems like it's more like

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Speaker 5: I mean, the only time, I don't know, and I

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Speaker 5: There's actually probably like nearly a fifty percent chance that

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Speaker 4: Time that I can get a shot. So that's I mean,

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Speaker 2: It's tough to kill deer, just straight up, especially if

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Speaker 2: Like you you just feel like you're bumping deer, right,

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Speaker 2: it's and that's pretty pretty tough to to to stomach, really,

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Speaker 5: So it's hard to sell film still hunting though, That's

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Speaker 4: I just I can't film it by myself, you know.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if it was you or

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Speaker 5: I never it's like the It's like when you go

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so got to just catch one the right mood

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Speaker 2: Well, so as far as Oklahoma goes, if you wanted

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one to two or zero to one good or not?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Over the next week.

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Speaker 5: Well, I know what the weather looks like for the

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Speaker 4: And for my hunt.

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Speaker 5: I'll just talk about that because I don't know what

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I had a three. How confident are

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Is that also a three? Oh?

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Speaker 4: It's a negative three. Oh No, I feel like, See,

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Speaker 4: I'm just I'm not going to shoot anything.

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Speaker 5: I'm probably gonna try to hold out for like I

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: That's kind of what I'm thinking, Like, I'm not coming

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Speaker 4: A very good chance of shooting a deer.

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Speaker 5: But this is a particular piece of property that's it's

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Speaker 4: I can't see anything.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I had I legit the dough, the first

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Speaker 4: I could not see her until she was at thirty yards.

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Speaker 4: So and that's I mean.

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Speaker 5: And I felt like that I would have been able

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, it's tough, man, it's stuff.

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Speaker 5: But I think, you know, if I'm going to give

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Speaker 5: It's not you know, like a chore, you know, especially

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Speaker 5: if you've got excuse me, especially if you've got some

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Speaker 2: Cool man, Well, hopefully that is in the forecast. I

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Speaker 2: over at that point in time. But anyways, let's uh. Actually,

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Speaker 2: this week we're gonna hear from our buddy Dudley Phelps.

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Speaker 2: Dud the stud down in Mississippi. Tony Peterson has been

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Speaker 3: The cold north of Minnesota. And our friend Matt Die

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Speaker 2: He's got a good report there. And then Jordan Hotchkiss

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Speaker 2: Right here, I've got Dudley Phelps with Masio gamekeepers and

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Speaker 2: if you have everybody thing from Natives nurseries, he is

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Speaker 3: His fingerprint is on it. What's going on, dude, man.

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Speaker 7: Not much. It's always good to hear from you. I've

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Speaker 7: always been a big fan of the Element guys, so

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Speaker 7: glad to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: It's been a while, thanks man. Yeah, we exchanged text

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Speaker 7: To you so in a good while, and I've been

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Speaker 7: following y' all. You guys have just had a stellar

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Speaker 7: seem to be really good at that point. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, if any having fun, you ain't living, man.

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Speaker 2: So that's what it's what we try to make happen

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Speaker 2: you very much embrace kind of a more traditional way

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Speaker 2: which you're a very observant guy.

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Speaker 3: So I bet you're pretty good at it.

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Speaker 7: I'm I'm I'm decent. I you know, I feel the freezer.

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Speaker 3: That's not good.

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Speaker 7: That's that's my trophy.

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Speaker 3: So that's cool, man. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Mississippi is a is a southern rut state, right, so

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Speaker 3: Where are y'all at there in Mississippi?

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Speaker 7: I would say, we are you know, early pre rut.

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Speaker 7: You know, it varies across a lot of the state.

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Speaker 7: The Mississippi Department of Wildlife, Fisheries and Parks puts out

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Speaker 7: if they're ever coming to visit and it's it's spot

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Speaker 7: on around here. I would call it early pre rut.

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Speaker 7: The you know, I think most people are going to

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Speaker 7: you know about now. You know, scrape activity probably started

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Speaker 7: so it's not crazy chasing time yet. But you know

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Speaker 2: So right now your tactic you were telling me a

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Speaker 7: I am. I probably hunt public, I don't know, sixty

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Speaker 7: But you know, I've been looking for feed trees We've

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Speaker 7: had a really poor acren year around here, and I

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Speaker 7: have found a rare species of oak called swamp laurel oaks.

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Speaker 7: They drop their leaves really late. So like I can

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Speaker 3: That's pretty sure.

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Speaker 7: There's no other acrons in the woods right now, so

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Speaker 7: that's gonna been my strategy. How about that, I'm still

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's cool, dude.

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Speaker 2: Then that's a high level tip right there, as far

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Speaker 3: That's that's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: So that tree is a lot like a water oak too,

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Speaker 2: from what I have seen, just what you think. It's

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Speaker 7: The leaf a little bit. The leaf is just a

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Speaker 2: Got you and and so guys kind of across the

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Speaker 7: Huh oh, yes they will. They'll gobble them up. They'll

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Speaker 7: they need them.

443
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,440
Speaker 3: I ain't trying to eat those, that's for sure.

444
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 2: Well, what do you think is going to be going

445
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,439
Speaker 2: on in the woods on the upcoming week as far

446
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 2: as rut movement goes.

447
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 7: Well in the in the areas I hunt, it's probably

448
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,719
Speaker 7: my favorite time of the year to hunt. You know,

449
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 7: it's it's typically like what you know, we refer to

450
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 7: as the second weekend of Muzzloder season in Mississippi. Uh,

451
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 7: in a lot of areas, that's when you start seeing uh,

452
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 7: you know, chasing beginning. You know, bucks are gonna randomly

453
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 7: come out into a food plot when they normally wouldn't

454
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,399
Speaker 7: you know, but it's it's before the chasing gets just

455
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 7: absolutely crazy to where it's almost hard to make a

456
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 7: shot on one. But yeah, this next week is where

457
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 7: it's going to pick up a good bit in a

458
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 7: lot of areas of the state.

459
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 2: Well that's exciting, man. So if you had to rank

460
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 2: what you predict the buck movement to be like on

461
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 2: a scale of one to ten in your part of

462
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 2: Mississippi there, what would you say it for the next week.

463
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 7: I'd probably say a six. You know, it's not quite

464
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,919
Speaker 7: as much movements as we want, but they're not moving

465
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 7: so much that it's hard to get a bead on

466
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 7: them when they're chasing, if that makes sense. I would

467
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 7: almost call it a searching phase and the younger deer

468
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 7: chasing if that makes sense.

469
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that makes me.

470
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,360
Speaker 7: Quite full on. But it's easier to get it get

471
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 7: them in the scope, you get them in the crossairs.

472
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:51,959
Speaker 3: Yeah that's cool. Duh.

473
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,199
Speaker 2: Appreciate the information, man, and I hope you have a

474
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 2: great risk of the season.

475
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 7: Well, you all do the same, and I'll I'll look

476
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 7: forward to seeing more from you guys.

477
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 3: Now, I've got my friend Tony Peterson who is a

478
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 3: deer slayer. If y'all didn't know, I'm sure you do.

479
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 3: He's with meat eater. What's happening in Tony.

480
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 8: Not much, man, I don't. I don't feel like a

481
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 8: real deer slayer lately. I feel like a deer looker

482
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 8: for kind of guy.

483
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 2: Isn't that weird how it goes? Like you and I

484
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 2: were just talking beforehand. We both had very nice seasons

485
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 2: where we killed some deer. But it's like, it's the

486
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 2: what if you've done for me lately?

487
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:26,120
Speaker 4: Thing?

488
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 2: You go two weeks with that, I having a good encounter,

489
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 2: and you're like, man, I'm terrible with this, right.

490
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, I've been.

491
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 8: I've been dividing my time between some public land in

492
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 8: western Minnesota and some private land here by my house

493
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 8: in eastern Minnesota. I can't even see a deer here

494
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 8: on the east side, and the ones they see on

495
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 8: the west side are in eight foot tall cot or cattails.

496
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 8: So I'm like, it's almost like I'm hunting ghosts right now.

497
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 3: Well, that's probably what the problem is.

498
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 2: They probably put on Mark's white sheet and they look

499
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 2: like ghosts south there running around and just can't flatching

500
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 2: it into the snow, and they're hard to find. If

501
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 2: do you ever figure out that trick, we're toast.

502
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 4: I don't. They don't need to.

503
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 8: I mean, the deer that I've been hunting in those

504
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 8: cattail slews, it's like we've had a dry year, so

505
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 8: there was a real growth in those cattails. And when

506
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 8: I walk in there a pheasant hunt, some of those spots,

507
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 8: they're like ten feet tall. And so even where the

508
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 8: growth wasn't that great if you put a deer in there,

509
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 8: I mean you could hide an elk in there, yeah,

510
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 8: let alone a white tail. And so it's like they're

511
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 8: they're you know, it's almost like they're underground. It's like

512
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 8: it doesn't do you any good until they step out.

513
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 3: You know, how are you how are you finding like

514
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 3: specific either deer or areas to target.

515
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 4: Well.

516
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 8: The good thing about that, you know, you guys know

517
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 8: this is those areas you can observe pretty well. And

518
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 8: so I mean you lose them when they get into

519
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 8: the cover, but you can kind of.

520
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 4: Predict a pattern.

521
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 8: And the cool thing about it is is you get

522
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 8: an aerial view of those cattail slews. They look kind

523
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 8: of like mono habitat but then you see a little

524
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 8: patch of willows in there, or a little vein of fragmighties,

525
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 8: which is that tall invasive grass, and those bucks follow

526
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 8: that stuff. It's unbelievable. In fact, two weeks ago we

527
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 8: had a little bit of fresh snow when I was

528
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 8: down and I started tracking just tracks in the slough,

529
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 8: and I got on seven different sets of tracks and

530
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 8: jumped seven deer out of their beds, including three bucks

531
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 8: close within like twenty thirty yards, and following a buck

532
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 8: track through. There was like a education that was just

533
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 8: amazing to me. How they stick to those lines of cover,

534
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 8: and how they travel with the wind in there and

535
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 8: everything and where they bed. It's just it's so cool.

536
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 8: They have so many advantages and they know how to

537
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 8: use them.

538
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you were, I guess it sounds like you

539
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 2: were kind of doing the old just track them up

540
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: and try to shoot them thing.

541
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 3: Huh.

542
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 8: Well I did that because I was I had posted

543
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 8: up for three sits and had had some really close

544
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 8: oppertunities I should say they were.

545
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 4: They could have broke my way, they just didn't.

546
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 8: And then when I was leaving, because it's a couple

547
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 8: hours to get out there for me, when I was

548
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 8: leaving one morning, I had I had blanked, and I

549
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 8: knew those deer made it back into the cattails and

550
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 8: they didn't go buy me, And so I just happened

551
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 8: to have a lucky set of circumstances where there was

552
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 8: fresh snow and I started getting on the tracks, and man,

553
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 8: it was like the most fun I've had all season,

554
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 8: even though I knew the odds are getting a good shot.

555
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 4: Were real low.

556
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 8: But man, when you can when you can follow how

557
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 8: a deer walked into a cattail slew, the route he

558
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 8: took to get to his bed, and then see where

559
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 8: his bed is and when he was in it, it's

560
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 8: just it was cool, man.

561
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

562
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 2: Man, When I think of cold weather, I think of

563
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 2: trying to hunt deer that are actively headed to food

564
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 2: sources because they just got to eat when they get cold.

565
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 3: Ride. Is that something you're targeting or is there just

566
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 3: food everywhere in that country?

567
00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 8: There's there's enough food, but the pressure is everything. The day,

568
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 8: the day before I did that little track in Festival,

569
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 8: I saw a fourteen deer go into that cattail slew

570
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 8: in the morning, and I saw twenty hunters on that property.

571
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 4: Throughout the day.

572
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 8: Wow, So their whole thing is they've got nine hours

573
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 8: of daylight or whatever, however much daylight we have, they

574
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 8: go lay low and then they have all night to

575
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 8: feed and not get harassed. And so the deer I'm

576
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 8: hunting anyway, it's all tied to pressure. You can kind

577
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 8: of predict and go, they're going to go to that cut,

578
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 8: cornfield or whatever, but they're not going to get anywhere

579
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 8: near that until dark.

580
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

581
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: Well it seems like at least looking at kind of

582
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: the weather forecast for your area up there, you have

583
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 2: very very consistent days ahead, like even there's not there's

584
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 2: like one day in the fifties, but it's really like

585
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 2: forties and thirties and lows that are all pretty similar.

586
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 2: So with that like just looming on the horizon, there's

587
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: no fronts to kind of hunt. What do you think

588
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 2: is going to be going on over the next week.

589
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 4: I don't think it's going to be very easy.

590
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, we are unseasonably warm here, and you know, we

591
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 8: got a little bit of snow this morning, it'll be gone.

592
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 8: And you know this happens like once every I don't know,

593
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 8: five or ten years, where I'll be bow hunting like

594
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 8: Christmas Day or Christmas Eve and there'll be no snow,

595
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 8: and you know, other years we'll have snow that starts

596
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 8: in the beginning of November, and so we don't They're

597
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 8: not stressed like this is a great winter so far

598
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 8: to get them like recovered from the rut and not

599
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 8: have a big die off in the winter. But it

600
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,959
Speaker 8: makes it a heck of a lot harder because they

601
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 8: don't have to work that hard right now, and they're

602
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 8: they're not going to risk it.

603
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,479
Speaker 2: I don't blame him, man, he it can't be too

604
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 2: risky up here in the North Country. So if you

605
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: had to give the next week a rating on the

606
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: scale of one to ten for buck movement, what would

607
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: you think he would be?

608
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 8: Man, I'll give it a three, but I'll qualify it

609
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,719
Speaker 8: by saying you should still hunt anyway.

610
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 3: I like it.

611
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 2: The optimism is good, Man's. That's what you gotta have.

612
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're looking at a three, you gotta

613
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: be optimistic. So that's good stuff, man, Tony. I really

614
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: appreciate it, dude. I hope you find one more big one.

615
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 9: Awesome things, buddy.

616
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 2: I've got my brother Matt Die on the phone. He

617
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 2: is with landing legacy and you might have seen him

618
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 2: on TV with a show called hunt Works. Matt, what's

619
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: happening man.

620
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 10: Not much, dude, just rolling through, uh, rolling through season

621
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 10: and trying to keep trying to keep my head above

622
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 10: water with work and everything like that. But that's just

623
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 10: the norm. That's one on your word.

624
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 3: Well, right now I'm watching two road runners posture to

625
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 3: one another, which is a pretty fun thing. Oh, there's three.

626
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 3: There's a he's chasing a grasshopper. It's going down around here.

627
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 3: Which Oh, he's.

628
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 2: Running under my car right now. Goodness, gracious, Okay, back

629
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: to deer. Sorry, I'll get distracted. Yeah, but uh yeah,

630
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 2: I'm just home from a hunt Man and trying to

631
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: figure out what's going on around the country. You're in Missouri,

632
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 2: and you've got.

633
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 3: Kind of an interesting take as to what's been happening

634
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 3: in the woods lately, right.

635
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 10: Yes, it's such an interesting time with the season for us.

636
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 10: You know, Missouri's got a rifle season that is short

637
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 10: and sweeten eleven day season, but it hits right in

638
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 10: the smack down the middle of the rut and there

639
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 10: is an incredible amount of pressure that happens during that timeframe.

640
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 10: I think this year's totals were somewhere around one hundred

641
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 10: and seventy thousand deer that were harvested in the state

642
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 10: in that eleven day period, and so there is just

643
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 10: an incredible amount of just all of a sudden, just

644
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 10: random pressure that just hits the deer woods. And at

645
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 10: that same timeframe, deer are most active, and so as

646
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 10: you like rebound after and the following few weeks, you've

647
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 10: got the post rut that happens, and then now we're

648
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 10: kind of in this weird tweener stage of there's a

649
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 10: little bit of running activity. There's a whole lot of

650
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 10: deer that just feel like they're almost coming out of

651
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 10: the holes in the ground after all of that pressure.

652
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 10: That's kind of that scenario of finding ourselves in right now,

653
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 10: from both in the field observations as well as trail

654
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 10: camera observations, it's like, who made it through? And is

655
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 10: there any pattern to what you're doing right now? It's

656
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 10: kind of the mindset.

657
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: And so right now you're fixing go out on the

658
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: evening hunt because you've been kind of following show camera data, right.

659
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 10: Yes, yeah, so you know, the ven to food pattern

660
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 10: is really beginning to take its place after that post

661
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 10: run activity has really started to subside. Deer still bucks

662
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 10: are still hitting scrapes and checking those on the way

663
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 10: out too, some of the larger food sources, which is

664
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 10: great place obviously from the camera to get kind of

665
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 10: an inventory of what's happening. But started to see quite

666
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 10: a few of the bucks from kind of the pre

667
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 10: rut really November swing starting to settle back into kind

668
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 10: of that evening pattern of bed to food, which is

669
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 10: great and to see inventory wise who actually just made it.

670
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 10: So that's kind of what the tactic is for right now.

671
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 10: We've actually got a pretty cold day here for us today.

672
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 10: Then we kind of getting this little warming trend for

673
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 10: the next four or five days, but we've got high

674
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 10: pressure northwest wind and it's going to kind of push

675
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 10: some deer to feed. And a lot of this is

676
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 10: honestly clover in a large secluded hayfield, and so it's

677
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 10: not like it's a big crop field or anything like

678
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 10: that in my region that we're hunting, but some recent temperature,

679
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 10: some recent rain, the clovers popped and the deer are

680
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 10: heading to it.

681
00:32:58,760 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 4: For sure.

682
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to give you opportunity to just showcase

683
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: your skills, man, because you land management is your business

684
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: is what you do, and you're really good at it,

685
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: and you approach it from such a unique holistic approach

686
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 2: it and I really appreciate it. So I would imagine

687
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: that your properties that you get to hunt, you do

688
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: your best, at least within your limitations to be able

689
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: to kind of make them places that deer would like

690
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: to be riding in. That clover, I'm guessing is a

691
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 2: big part of that.

692
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 7: Yeah.

693
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 10: Absolutely, And for us being in the southern half of Missouri, Sir,

694
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 10: we absolutely get cold. But a lot of people overlook

695
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 10: overlook clover and in a good stand of perennial white

696
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 10: clover into late season. But if you get these warming

697
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 10: trends and there's moisture, whether it's from frost or whatever,

698
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 10: that clover is going to live and back up. And

699
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 10: as soon as that happens, deer respond to it. And

700
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 10: that may be it could be winter week in your area.

701
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 10: But just for us and our general resources in this landscape,

702
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 10: that's kind of what we key into now. If we

703
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 10: have a big bumper crop of red oak acorns, we're

704
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 10: also go to key into that at this time of

705
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 10: the year. If there's any more left over, but between

706
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 10: clover that starts to pop back as well as the

707
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 10: red oaks, than man, we're definitely keen to that. From

708
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 10: a food source standpoint, two weeks from now, I'll be

709
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 10: in western Iowa, kind of northwestern Iowa, and it's completely different.

710
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 10: Like that's we're hunting standing grain, standing soybeans on a

711
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 10: couple of different farms, and that's the game there. But

712
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 10: for us in this region, you gotta hunt where you

713
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 10: gotta hunt the resources that they're after. And for us

714
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 10: right now, weather temperatures, they're hitting clover.

715
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure, it makes a lot of sense, man.

716
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: And so if we look at that warming tree and

717
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 2: you're talking about it's kind of a thing at least

718
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: here in the South and the Midwest. It's just what

719
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: we're looking at, and it makes it for kind of

720
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 2: I don't know what you feel like, might be stagnant

721
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 2: to deer activity, but there's always a move right, there's

722
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 2: always something to do. So if you if you looked

723
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: at at kind of our weather in the time and year,

724
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 2: and you have it to give it a rating on

725
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 2: a scale of one to ten, of which you think

726
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 2: buck movement will be like over the next week, what

727
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: would you rate it.

728
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 10: I'm gonna go with the I'm gonna go with the five. Okay,

729
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 10: for two reasons, which is about just as plain jane

730
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 10: as possible. So the reason I give it like, hey,

731
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 10: there's some chance there is because of just the the

732
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 10: biology of the animal, Like they're coming out of the

733
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 10: rut where they've expended a ton of energy, so they're

734
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 10: gonna hit food sources for sure. If you get a

735
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 10: high pressure day, despite temperatures being maybe a touch warm

736
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 10: or something, they're probably gonna move within daylight. So there

737
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 10: are some decent chances that you might get a swing

738
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 10: or a crack out of buck. But if not, if

739
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 10: it just gets warm and you don't have you know,

740
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 10: decent wind or or that pressure situation, then you can

741
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 10: be sitting there twiddling your thumbs and see a bunch

742
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,439
Speaker 10: of fawns and doze and not your target till after dark.

743
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 4: Right, So.

744
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 10: It's really that hit or miss. And I'd say that

745
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 10: for the just the time of the year itself. I'm

746
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 10: really gonna start keen into as we get to mid December. Okay,

747
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 10: are any fawns coming in to heat any any If

748
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 10: I's coming into estrus. But then also, when when are

749
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 10: we going to get those two to three day cold

750
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 10: snaps that just kind of set in here. I want

751
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 10: to hunt the front of it, and I will have

752
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 10: the back end of it, but for us the next

753
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 10: couple of days, it's pretty pretty stagnant. So I'm gonna

754
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 10: give it a five.

755
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 3: Hey, man, five's better and zero, that's for sure. Matt

756
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 3: appreciate it, dude, Thanks so much for the report. No problem.

757
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: Then, Jordan Hotchkiss is here. He's been hunting North Carolina,

758
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: probably out of a timber ninja. If I had to

759
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 2: imagine Jordan, what's happening?

760
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 3: Man?

761
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 4: Just getting after it? How about you, buddy, He's.

762
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 3: About the same.

763
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 4: You know.

764
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: Actually, I'm in a little bit of a lull here.

765
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 2: I've been on the road for a good portion of

766
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 2: the month in November, and I've got five or six

767
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: days here at the house to to just soak up

768
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 2: some family time. And it's actually well appreciated, it's and

769
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 2: it's a it's a good time you do that weather

770
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 2: it's still nice and all, you know. So what's it

771
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: like for your neck of the woods.

772
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, about the same, man, I got a I got

773
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 6: three little kids. So if I'm not working or spending

774
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 6: time with the family, I'm trying to be in the

775
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 6: woods as much as I can. But right now it's

776
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 6: a little bit of a loll out there, so it's

777
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 6: a good time to try to get it in while

778
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:34,919
Speaker 6: I can before I hit it hard.

779
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 4: The last three weeks the season.

780
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 2: I got you, so, can you explain that we were

781
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 2: talking a little bit off air about the lull.

782
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 3: That we're all kind of experiencing right now.

783
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 2: But in you're part of the country there in North Carolina,

784
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: how does the rut lay out?

785
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 3: Usually?

786
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I'm in in the Appalachian Mountains in western

787
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 6: North Carolina. As I mentioned earlier, it's it's it's very sporadic, really.

788
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 4: I mean that first week.

789
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 6: In November could be hit or missed, depending on really

790
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 6: what holler you're in. But usually we'll have an uptick

791
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 6: there around Thanksgiving. This year, Thanksgiving was really good, a

792
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 6: lot of bucks hit the ground, some real good cruising activity,

793
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,959
Speaker 6: and then right now is starting to die off. They're

794
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 6: they're hard on food right now, and then the last

795
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 6: the next I'd say next week it'll start ramping up

796
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 6: a little bit.

797
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 4: But those last two weeks of.

798
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 6: Season is really one of the best times for rut activity.

799
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 6: It seems like those yearland dos come finally coming to heat,

800
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 6: and those bucks just really get back on the move

801
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 6: trying to catch those young.

802
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 3: Does, gotcha?

803
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: And you know, in North Carolina, as far as latitude goes,

804
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: it's pretty far north, but it's still like what I

805
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: would consider the South, especially, we have similar accidents. And

806
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: then also, you know, like the climate there is probably

807
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 2: going to be more like that.

808
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 6: Right, Yes, I'm not I'm not exactly sure about what

809
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 6: your climate is, but I mean it's in the thirties

810
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 6: here in the mornings, next week's home from the twenties.

811
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 4: Then high's probably forties, fifties, things like that.

812
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: Okay, got you a little a little cooler than I expected,

813
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: are y'all? Uh, do you experience the fronts that kind

814
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: of come in from the Rockies or I know, the

815
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: East Coast stuff. You get a little bit different weather

816
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 2: patterns over there.

817
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we do.

818
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 6: I mean, we get some some pretty good fronts, but

819
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 6: all it just depends on how it hits these mountains.

820
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean we can we can get some

821
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 4: you know, single digit tempts.

822
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 6: I mean the other morning I went hunting, it was

823
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 6: eleven degrees, but then you know, it could we could

824
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 6: get up a heat spike and it'll be seventy in December,

825
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 6: so kind of up and down.

826
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 4: But in the mountains here it does get pretty cold.

827
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, what have you been doing here? You know, as

828
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: this low approaches, like, what's your tactic? You're going to

829
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 2: to try to kill a big buck?

830
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 6: Still focusing on you know, travel corridors, uh saddles ahead

831
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 6: of hollers, things like that, because you know you still

832
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 6: have some roamors. But right now, like we talked about earlier,

833
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 6: I'm kind of just taking some time, spend time with

834
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 6: the family, and then I'll hit it hard the.

835
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 4: Next three weeks.

836
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 6: And really that late later season is kind of an

837
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 6: oddity as well. I don't know if you experienced this,

838
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 6: but it's like, you know, the dose are still they're

839
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 6: starting to get hard on food because it's late, it's

840
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 6: getting cold, and.

841
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 4: Some of the bucks are on food.

842
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 6: But at the same time they're checking those food sources

843
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 6: for dose coming in heat. I mean, I killed a

844
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 6: seven year old buck last year on December seventeenth. Before

845
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 6: I saw him, I was watching a two year old

846
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 6: ten point run a dough for an hour. So it's

847
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 6: really sporadic, but I think it's one of the best

848
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 6: times to hunt on.

849
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 2: Oh that's great December action. Are you still having acrons

850
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: in December or are those all dried.

851
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 3: Up for you?

852
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 6: No, man, this year they are. We had a bumper

853
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 6: crop this year. It's made it Yeah, it's made it

854
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 6: tough hunting. Honestly, there's just every acren tree has been

855
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 6: loaded at least where we're at, so there definitely are

856
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 6: still some acrons on the ground. I have a lot

857
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 6: of buddies that you know that feed corn and stuff,

858
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 6: and they told me that they're not even get getting

859
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 6: picked on their corn because there's just so many acrons.

860
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 3: But so so as we look forward for the next week,

861
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: there are you going to continue on just hunting those

862
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 3: pinch points? Are you gonna get more aggressive with any

863
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 3: calling or any that kind of stuff.

864
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 4: I'll hunt pinch points, but then also try to hone

865
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 4: in on some of those food sources because while we

866
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 4: did have a bumper.

867
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 6: Crop, it's now starting to get to where there's definitely

868
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 6: some spots that are going to be hotter.

869
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 4: You know, they cleaned up.

870
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 6: I think a lot of those acrons, uh, you know,

871
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 6: through now, but trying to find those late season spots

872
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 6: where they haven't got them all cleaned up, mainly red oaks.

873
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 6: Just finding those areas and then finding those close to

874
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 6: you know, cruising spots, saddles and like I said, the

875
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 6: head of drainages things like that.

876
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 3: Shoot, man, it sounds like things are far from over

877
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 3: and your neck of the woods is pretty exciting that

878
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 3: you can still hunt good action in December.

879
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 4: It is, man, it's it's uh, it's uh.

880
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 6: It works out good for for my schedule because you know,

881
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 6: having three young kids, I don't really get to go

882
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 6: on that many trips.

883
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 4: I usually do either a Elkhun or rut hunt, and I.

884
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 6: Try to hit that Midwest time frame out of state,

885
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 6: you know, the first two weeks in November, and then

886
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 6: it's like, if I'm not successful, I still have the

887
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 6: latter season here to look forward to, because that's when

888
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 6: it's best in my opinion.

889
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Man's that's a great way to look

890
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 3: at it.

891
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 4: For sure.

892
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: If you had to look at the next week, I

893
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 2: know you kind of already gave us a little anticipation here,

894
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 2: but the next week, if you had to rank buck

895
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 2: movement on a scale of one to ten.

896
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 3: What would you call it?

897
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 4: I would say five.

898
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 3: That's a good number.

899
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean middle, you know, middle of the road.

900
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 4: I think it just depends on where you're at.

901
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 6: But I'm starting to get a few more pictures during

902
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 6: the day of bucks moving. You know that nine ten

903
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 6: o'clock range. It seems like more than anything. But I

904
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 6: think it's still a little lullish. I think you still

905
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 6: have some mature deer there that are on dose locked down.

906
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 6: But I think it's just gonna get better. But next week,

907
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 6: probably about a five.

908
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 3: I'd say, man, that's cool, dude. Five is way better

909
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 3: than a zero.

910
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 4: So that's right.

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00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 3: Good time in the woods. I appreciate the info, man,

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00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: thank you absolutely, there is still a lot of reason

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Speaker 3: for deer hunters around the country to be optimistic. Thank

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Speaker 3: you for tuning in to Refresh Radio this week. Guys.

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Speaker 2: I hope the information that we got from all our

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Speaker 2: contributors helps you make a good decision this week to

917
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 2: get out there and get after the deer. If you

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00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: need some more content, you need some more stuff, to

919
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: check out, some things, some inspiration, whatever it may be,

920
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 2: you might go check out the Wired to Hunt feed

921
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: because Mark, as you remember we alluded to earlier, he

922
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: in fact killed.

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00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 3: The Wide nine and he has a podcast about how

924
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 3: that went down.

925
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: And then also Tony Peterson, a guest on today's show,

926
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 2: tells us asks the question how many deer are there really?

927
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 3: On the latest Foundations episode.

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Speaker 2: Also check out the description below because there are some

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00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,959
Speaker 2: cool videos from the Element crew that just went out

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00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 2: on the Meat Eater feed that you for sure need

931
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Speaker 2: to take a look at.

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00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 3: Some big pigs go down.

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00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: And also Tyler Shott a really nice buck in South Dakota.

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Speaker 3: I hope you all have a great rest of your season.

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00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: We still have more rout action around the country to

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Speaker 2: tune into, so tune in next week for another episode

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Speaker 2: of ret Fresh Radio. This has been rut Fresh, Keep

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Speaker 2: it Fresh.