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Speaker 2: Fellas and our special guest joining us here this morning

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Speaker 2: to talk about tonight's NBA draft. A pioneer in basketball analytics,

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Speaker 2: John Hollandrew. What's up?

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Speaker 2: How's it going?

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Speaker 4: And also I'm your fellow Atlanta Nate, that's true.

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Speaker 2: Where are you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, it's rough right now. John, Thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for joining us here again. You're doing a lot

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Speaker 2: the draft. You've ranked your top seventy players. You've already

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Speaker 2: tackled some big questions and thoughts heading into the draft tonight.

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Speaker 2: I think we'll get to a few of those later.

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Speaker 2: And you've called your shot like everybody has to. You've

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Speaker 2: done your mock draft, so let's start there, lie, John,

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Speaker 2: do you think the Pistons tonight ultimately end up taking

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Speaker 4: I think the consensus among everyone is that he's the

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Speaker 4: Certainly kept an open mind as far as whether they

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Speaker 4: because he can handle the ball. He's an amazing defender.

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Speaker 5: I like I like how you said the Toronto Raptors

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Speaker 5: don't let the consensus dictate what they do. That's the Raptors, baby,

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Speaker 5: the guard with the old guys at the top of

440
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Speaker 5: the league. You've got the play in tournament. Is there

441
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Speaker 5: sort of a movement in the league that gms are

442
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 5: looking at the thirty teams and saying, you know what,

443
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 5: we have a chance here. And maybe there's more of

444
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 5: a desire to make trades because it's dumb to try

445
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 5: and predict trades, as everybody knows a lot of these

446
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,159
Speaker 5: are just going to fizzle out. But I don't know,

447
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 5: maybe I'm buying into the fact that there's a little

448
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 5: bit more buzz. Is that sort of in the GM's

449
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 5: mindset right now.

450
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the quick turnarounds in Phoenix in Atlanta,

451
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 4: what they've done is they've made it harder for GMS

452
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 4: to sell their owners on patience, right, So sure, I

453
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 4: think it's I think it's I think it's maybe made

454
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 4: for some unrealistic situations with some other teams and not

455
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Speaker 4: really looking at what happened this season and how uncommon

456
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Speaker 4: it is or something like Phoenix or Atlanta for that matter,

457
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 4: uh to happen uh more regularly and honestly, even both

458
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:27,640
Speaker 4: those situations were after three four year gestation periods where

459
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 4: they were getting their butts kicked every night while bringing

460
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 4: in these young players and letting them learn. So you know, well,

461
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 4: I mean we definitely have though, like five or six

462
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,679
Speaker 4: teams that whether you think it's realistic or not, or

463
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,400
Speaker 4: like yeah, we're you know, we're making our move this year,

464
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 4: like you know, Chicago Bulls, let's go, you know, and

465
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 4: so uh no no, Peggy, Yeah yeah, yeah. So it's

466
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Speaker 4: gonna be really interesting to see what happens tonight and

467
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 4: what happens next week in free agency obviously because of that.

468
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 4: But yeah, I am expecting more action than usual because

469
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 4: I just think there are more teams than usual that

470
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 4: are like, yeah, this year, we're making our move and

471
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 4: we're going to you know, consolidate our assets or whatever

472
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 4: and really try to be the best team we can

473
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,959
Speaker 4: be this year, whereas I think most years there's at

474
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 4: least a couple more teams who were adopting a more

475
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 4: patient mindset.

476
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Speaker 7: John, I've got to ask you about one guy. You've

477
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 7: got him projected at number ten. I've seen him on

478
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 7: a few other boards around the same sort of spot.

479
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 7: He's the Australian Josh Giddy. Now. The reason I ask

480
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 7: is because Australians, Yeah, Australian Yeah, yeah. Look I heard

481
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 7: about Dante Exum, you know, a couple of years before

482
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 7: he got drafted. Ben Simmons the same, and both of

483
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 7: their dads played in the NBL. But Josh Giddy, I

484
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 7: honestly hadn't really heard much about him until the last

485
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 7: three or four months. What did he do that has

486
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 7: shot him up to the top? But you know, top

487
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 7: ten pick, I mean that's pretty high playing in the

488
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 7: Australian league, especially when you pointed out as well shooting

489
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 7: is you know, maybe his biggest weakness. So what has

490
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 7: he done that's impressed enough people where he could be

491
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 7: potentially a top ten pick tonight.

492
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

493
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Speaker 4: I mean Giddy was definitely a guy who was on

494
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 4: teams radar, but maybe not at this level. Like I

495
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 4: saw him at Basketball Without Borders right before the pandemic

496
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 4: hit at the All Star Game and it was twenty twenty,

497
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 4: I guess, and what year is it again, And you

498
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,439
Speaker 4: could see then like he had size, he could handle

499
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 4: the ball and pass. So there's definitely something interesting there.

500
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 4: And I think where he's surprised teams with just him

501
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 4: being further along as a player who can play against

502
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 4: grown men with like he's got kind of this thin body.

503
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 3: He's not a super athlete.

504
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 4: I think teams just thought it would take more time

505
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 4: and that he was a guy they had, you know,

506
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 4: kind of circled in the twenties and thirties. And with

507
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 4: the season he had in Australia this year and then

508
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 4: teams watching him, teams are able to watch him in person,

509
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 4: which I think helped him.

510
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 3: When the Australian national team played in.

511
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 4: Las Vegas, yeah, and he played well there, so I

512
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 4: think that that helped his stock. And then you talk

513
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 4: to people down Under, I think they all rave about

514
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 4: kind of the the off court package with him in

515
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 4: terms of, you know, work ethic, desire to get better

516
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 4: all that. So when when teams do their background reports,

517
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 4: it came up positive on him. So but you're right,

518
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 4: I mean, the shot is a real question. You know,

519
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 4: is he gonna be kind of an Australian Ricky Rubio

520
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 4: or is he you know, or is that part going

521
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 4: to come out of his game where you can get

522
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 4: his shot to the point where he's a threat you

523
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 4: have to go over on the screens and then like

524
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 4: he's Joe Ingles and he's picking you apart with his passing.

525
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 6: If only he could find an Australian shooting coach stroke

526
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 6: from deep. One of my favorite headlines from the draft

527
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 6: cycle so far, John was on your big board. It

528
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 6: ended with the phrase why alpron Shengun needs more hype?

529
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 6: Why does Alngun need more hype?

530
00:25:59,400 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 5: John?

531
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 4: Because he's eighteen years old and kick the crap out

532
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 4: of a really good European league. I mean, he was

533
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 4: the MVP of the Turkish league, which has like twenty

534
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 4: something former NBA players in it. You're talking about a

535
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 4: league where it has two of the absolute best teams

536
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 4: in Europe, in it in Fis and Fenerbacci, and like

537
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 4: he he was.

538
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 3: The best player in the league.

539
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 4: Like it was pretty clear, sure, and you know there

540
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 4: are questions about how his game translates.

541
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 3: I compare him to like a little bit like Kevin.

542
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 4: Love or Luis Scolo, where he's he's really good around

543
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 4: the block, just has such good feel in the painted area,

544
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 4: kind of has all the moves. Kevin McHale's another guy,

545
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 4: compare him to a little bit, but he has a

546
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 4: skill level to him where he can handle the ball,

547
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 4: he can pass, he can shoot too. He hasn't had

548
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 4: to shoot threes in Europe because he can just dominate inside.

549
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 4: But you watch him shoot like he's gonna be able

550
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 4: to make NBA threes. It might not happen his first year,

551
00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 4: but you know, by the time he's twenty two to

552
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 4: twenty three whatever, he'll be able to do that. And

553
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 4: the biggest question was with him at the defensive end.

554
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,479
Speaker 4: He's kind of a little bit. This is the other

555
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 4: reason I compare him to Kevin Love. Like he's a

556
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 4: little bit between four and five. He's like a four

557
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 4: and a half, you know, six ten seven foot wingspan,

558
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 4: not like a super elevator or rimp protector feet seem

559
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 4: decent enough. On the perimeter technique right now is pretty bad.

560
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 3: You just can get out like way over his skis

561
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 3: and just you know, guys will just blow past them.

562
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 4: But I think we've seen that with a lot of

563
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 4: bigs where you know, as teenagers, they haven't really had

564
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 4: to defend on the perimeter and they're fish out of

565
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 4: water and then they get better at it. So I

566
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 4: think maybe teams are undervaluing him because of that defensive

567
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 4: aspect a little too much and not looking at the

568
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 4: positive aspect of like this guy could pretty easily be

569
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 4: an all star big man, and you.

570
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 6: Have to have them go off to the spurs, right,

571
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 6: which kind of seems like just seems similar to magic

572
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 6: picking Scottie Barnes, like, Oh, here's the international player that

573
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 6: we're all gonna kick ourselves for not taking. Is there

574
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 6: a Pokashevski and this year's draft kind of a mystery

575
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 6: man from overseas who we don't really know what he's

576
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 6: gonna be able to do on an NBA level.

577
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if there's quite anybody like that

578
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 4: this year.

579
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 3: In the international class. I mean, you know.

580
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 4: I mean Usman Garuba is much more of a known quantity,

581
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 4: right and you know, I guess a little bit like

582
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 4: this Belgian guy, Frenz Bligenberg, who worked out for a

583
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 4: bunch of teams. But I like, I just don't think

584
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 4: he's anywhere near his talented as Poku. I don't think

585
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 4: he's going to go in the first round. I don't

586
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 4: know if he's you know, he might not go till

587
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 4: the fifties. So yeah, I don't really have a good

588
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 4: like Poku comp this year.

589
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 3: I don't know.

590
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 6: I think that was perfect because Finn be in the

591
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 6: stream team who has a Pokazhevski as his picture. So

592
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 6: friends Bligenberg this year Poku. So there you got all.

593
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 3: I walked right into it.

594
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to bring Andrew come on in here

595
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 2: because you're actually the draft expert right now of the

596
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: of the bunch, filling in for JD as I said,

597
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: producing Diehard. Okay, Fan, I know you got some questions

598
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: for holland you're here, so have that, you know, pick

599
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: his brain.

600
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 5: A little bit.

601
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, I want you to just share with the world

602
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 8: why Jared Butler is being underrated, because he's one of

603
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 8: my guys. He's one of my favorite guys in this draft,

604
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 8: and you have him, I think, at eleventh on your

605
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 8: big Bay.

606
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 4: I had him eleventh on my board. I think the

607
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 4: medical is really pushing him down. There are questions, you know,

608
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 4: the League had had to have a panel of doctors

609
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 4: approve him for a heart condition of some kind that

610
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 4: we still don't know exactly what it is. But I

611
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 4: mean teams are going to be doing their own work

612
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 4: on that. And then there are some questions about his

613
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 4: knees too, and so I think that's going to push

614
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 4: him down with some teams more than others. I think generally,

615
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 4: especially when you get out of the top ten picks

616
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 4: or so, teams historically have been way too conservative about

617
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 4: medical issues, and not just because once you get.

618
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 3: I think the thing they forget is once you get out.

619
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 4: Of the lottery, especially the risk that the guy can't

620
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 4: play is greater than the risk that the guy medically

621
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 4: might you know, break down at some point. So that said,

622
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 4: I mean, I've heard noise about the Lakers with him

623
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 4: at twenty two, but they may end up trading that pick.

624
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 4: I think Denver's a really interesting one to watch because

625
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 4: they've shown that they're willing to take risks on guys

626
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 4: who are medically red flag by other teams, and so

627
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 4: I'd say that's.

628
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 3: One to watch.

629
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 4: But I mean, I agree with you in general that, like,

630
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 4: I think Jared Butler's a good player. He can handle

631
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 4: the ball, he can shoot it, he's a pretty good defender.

632
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 4: He can play both guard spots. You know, I think

633
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 4: maybe the medical stuff to me might be an overreaction.

634
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 4: I haven't been able to look at, you know, under

635
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 4: the hood the way these teams have.

636
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 3: Uh So I'm really interested to see how this plays out.

637
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 5: I know we've taken you super super deep in this draft, John,

638
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 5: but I'm going deeper. Baby, is Alex going to be

639
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 5: the fourth brother to play in the league?

640
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 7: Uh?

641
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 4: I think he might get like a two way maybe yeah.

642
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 5: Okay, so you're saying there's a good chance.

643
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't think.

644
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 4: I don't think he'll get drafted, but he'll play. Supposedly

645
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 4: he's going to play summer league with with Sacramento. I

646
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 4: guess if he's not picked, and I think there's a

647
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 4: decent chance that that ends in a two way somehow,

648
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 4: and they at least look, you know, I think some

649
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 4: of these teams are just saying, like, okay, it's a

650
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 4: two way what are the odds of two way hits?

651
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 3: If you have any faith in genetics at all, maybe

652
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 3: you can maybe you can hit here.

653
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 4: You know.

654
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,719
Speaker 5: So, yeahs have rings so far.

655
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 4: There you go.

656
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 6: You mentioned there's a lot of right tail players in

657
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 6: this draft. John kind of like really dice rolls, you

658
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 6: know one and Doune's who's your favorite amongst those kind

659
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 6: of prospects? Somebody who you know, maybe it's an early

660
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 6: second round pick that actually hits and suddenly we're talking

661
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 6: about a major steel Yeah.

662
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 4: I like, uh, well, let's see there's there's a couple

663
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 4: of guys maybe.

664
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 3: Uh, but I'm kind of intrigued by by J. T.

665
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 3: Thor Out Auburn.

666
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 4: Great name, yeah, yeah, tremendous name. He's he's like a

667
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 4: great Orlando Magic pick actually for for pick thirty three

668
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 4: for them, because he's he's his long arms, kind of raw,

669
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 4: but like he showed some scoring potential at Auburn. He

670
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 4: can shoot it well enough that that you can project

671
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,959
Speaker 4: him to being like a real NBA shooter. At some point,

672
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 4: I think it was six' nine with a seven to two,

673
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 4: WINGSPAN i think IF i remember right, uh he's definitely

674
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 4: an interesting. PLAYER i think he'll go in the, thirties

675
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 4: so he's probably one of those guys to watch. It

676
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 4: it's really interesting, though because there's so many of, these

677
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 4: like you said one and. Done WHEN i talk about right,

678
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 4: tail like when you project the likely outcomes of their,

679
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 4: career you, know the most likely outcomes like the center

680
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 4: of the curve or like not, great but then you

681
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 4: go when you go out like the right tail of

682
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 4: like what the upside of these guys. Are some of

683
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 4: these guys when you get into the to the you,

684
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 4: know The Josh primos Or Dayron sharps or Whatever Cam,

685
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 4: thomas you get into some interesting you, know you can

686
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 4: say Like, okay, well you know there's a decent chance he,

687
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 4: fails but there's also a decent chance that he hits

688
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 4: and becomes something really. Good and that right tail is

689
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 4: much stronger on those guys than it is on some

690
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 4: of the upper. Classmen so it's going to be interesting

691
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 4: to see where teams come down on these. Guys LIKE

692
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 4: i think kind of fifteen through forty is going to

693
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 4: get really, interesting you. KNOW zi starting With Zira williams

694
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 4: From stanford and kind of getting down through the whole,

695
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 4: list there were a lot of one and done's WHO

696
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 4: i didn't necessarily expect to stay in this. Draft that's

697
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 4: that stayed in and so it's gonna be really interesting to.

698
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: See, andrew you got anything else As? John?

699
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 5: Uh oh, wow YES i. DO i.

700
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: Won't keep you much, Longer, John but how about? You

701
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 2: what's your feel For Kai?

702
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 4: Jones he's see he's almost like these one and done mystery,

703
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 4: meets except he's not a one and.

704
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 5: Done.

705
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 4: Uh he played two years At. Texas, YEAH i mocked

706
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 4: him number eleven To. CHARLOTTE i heard a lot of

707
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 4: noise That charlotte liked.

708
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 7: Him.

709
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 4: Uh charlotte may end up going in a Different they

710
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 4: may trade the pick a, uh but they may end

711
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 4: up going With Corey kisbert there.

712
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 3: Too he he.

713
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 4: To, me LIKE i GUESS i had a harder time

714
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 4: getting excited about him than some other.

715
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 3: People but he's definitely like you, know he's he's, big

716
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 3: he can.

717
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 4: Move he shows some hints of having tools to be

718
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 4: a better offensive. PLAYER i think like his first, year

719
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 4: especially at he'll probably be pretty close to a zero on.

720
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 4: Offense like he's more of a developmental pick to, me.

721
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 3: But he's like he's he's.

722
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 4: INTERESTING i could definitely see like that's he's kind of

723
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 4: a thunder pick, Too SO i could see why you're

724
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 4: asking me about.

725
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 3: HIM i can definitely see Okay see going that way

726
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 3: at sixteen.

727
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 8: One more from. Me everybody's got everybody's got A kaminga.

728
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 8: Take what's your cominga?

729
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 5: Take?

730
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 4: YEAH i would compare him a little bit to Like

731
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 4: Andrew wiggins Or Harrison, barnes where he's he's a big

732
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 4: wing can who can get to his get to his

733
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 4: spots pretty easily and and create a, shot but it's

734
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 4: maybe not the greatest, shot and his feel for the

735
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 4: game isn't really. Strong SO i think he makes a

736
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 4: lot of sense in that in that kind of five

737
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 4: to ten, RANGE i THINK i put him.

738
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 3: Eight on my board maybe IF i remember.

739
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 4: Right i'm probably not quite as high on him as

740
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 4: as some other people, are BUT i can DEFINITELY i

741
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 4: can definitely understand why teams would be interested in. HIM

742
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 4: i think if Okay see stays at, six it sounds

743
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 4: like it's Either kamingo Or James booknight From, connecticut so

744
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 4: that you, know we'll see what they do There, okay,

745
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 4: see in a lot of like they control this draft

746
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 4: in some ways because they can go they have the,

747
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 4: ability not just the, desire but the actual ability because

748
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 4: of all the assets they have to go up down

749
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 4: or whatever with six with, sixteen with eighteen with or you,

750
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 4: know for picks they don't even have right, now so

751
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 4: that they're going to be the most interesting team to.

752
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 3: WATCH i, think what's it like.

753
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 6: Trying to negotiate with a team like that on draft

754
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 6: night where you're, like they kind of hold all the.

755
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,439
Speaker 6: Cards if they really want to make a huge move,

756
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 6: here they probably. Could is it tough to stay in

757
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 6: the mix? There is it tough to like get your offers?

758
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 6: Heard is it tough to just to actually get something?

759
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 3: DONE i think it's it's. Hard it's hard to compete against.

760
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 4: THEM i think like if you're you, know if you're

761
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 4: watching it at fifteen and you're trying to get say

762
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 4: the tenth pick For memphis And Oklahoma city is at,

763
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 4: sixteen and it's also trying to get the tenth pick For.

764
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 4: Memphis if You're, washington you're, like, yeah we're probably gonna lose.

765
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 3: This like like we just. Can't we just don't have

766
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 3: the bullets that that, okay see does but.

767
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:16,959
Speaker 5: Uh the, bullets nice.

768
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 3: MAN i didn't even think about that, one all. Right

769
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 3: uh the.

770
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 4: The SEE i totally lost my train here now is interesting,

771
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 4: though because you don't have the ability to b s

772
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 4: anymore because because you're on the, clock so you kind

773
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 4: of just got to come in with an offer and be,

774
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 4: like you, know are you doing this or? Not and you,

775
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 4: know sometimes there's time for like one round of back and,

776
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 4: forth but generally it's just like by the by the

777
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 4: time the draft has has, started it's usually just, like,

778
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 4: look here's here's what we're willing to. Do and it's

779
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 4: kind of either usually the other team tells you, yes

780
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 4: other team tells you, no or other team tells you,

781
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 4: well actually we got this call from this other team

782
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 4: and they're giving us way more so.

783
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: Sorry, great, well we're gonna start wrapping this up. Here

784
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: we've already kept you longer than we thought we. Would,

785
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 2: johnston thank you so. MUCH i guess my final question

786
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 2: you said there could be a lot of trades. Tonight

787
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 2: will we see one of the big, names let's, say

788
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: A dame A bell or A Ben simmons traded. Tonight

789
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 2: does that happen. Tonight, no you.

790
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 4: Won't you won't See dame Or beal happened because they

791
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 4: haven't pushed it yet to force it to. Happen and

792
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 4: you won't See simmons happen Because philadelphia's best case scenario

793
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 4: was still Trading Ben simmons For Bradley.

794
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 3: Beal so so all those The simmons.

795
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 4: Bone is connected to The beal, bone and you know

796
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 4: it is really that way for the whole kind of,

797
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 4: uh this whole roulette wheel around the. League and that's

798
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 4: the one thing that could maybe result in fewer trades

799
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 4: happening than then maybe there could have been right just

800
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 4: because some of these teams are going to try to

801
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 4: keep their powder dry for later in the summer when

802
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 4: they're hoping That beal Or lillard becomes.

803
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 2: Available what will you be doing? Tonight? Then during the?

804
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: Draft are gonna be doing Live analys's.

805
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 4: Gonna be doing live analysis for The athletic and Then

806
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 4: i'll be following up with kind of a, recap best

807
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 4: worst and whatnot tomorrow.

808
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 3: Morning so, Yeah i'm gonna be pretty.

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Speaker 2: Updown report got a couple for you. Guys first, one

855
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,959
Speaker 2: according to The Athletics Sam, amic it's looking increasingly likely

856
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: That Ben simmons will be on the move. Now hollinger,

857
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 2: says maybe not, tonight but he will be on the,

858
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 2: move Says. Sam one Of sam's sources close to the

859
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 2: situation Handicapped, Miami, toronto And washington as the most likely landing. Spots,

860
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 2: Lee we're gonna start with you on this one. Again not,

861
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 2: tonight BECAUSE i Believe, hollinger but up or down On

862
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 2: simmons being traded this. Summer he will no longer be

863
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: playing for The philadelphia seventy six. Ers come to start next.

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Speaker 7: Up, Okay, YEAH i think we could get the lock

866
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 7: it in uh graphic back for this, one because it

867
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 7: seems it is just a matter of when and, how

868
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 7: not a matter of if he gets traded. Anymore it

869
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 7: seems that they've come to some understanding. There his, Agent

870
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 7: Rich paul apparently has met With Daryl morey and they've

871
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 7: kind of agreed to move. On so now it's really

872
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 7: just finding the right, destination the right, situation and the

873
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 7: right return for The philadelphia seventy six. Is, SO i

874
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 7: think it seems it's virtually a done deal as far

875
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 7: as him not being In philadelphia next, season and that's

876
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 7: probably the best for everybody Because Ben simmons said he

877
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 7: was going to go and work on his, game AND

878
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 7: i think we'll be able to determine that pretty much

879
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 7: as soon as next season. Starts if he can shoot,

880
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 7: better if he's improved in any, way and if he,

881
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 7: has then Whoever Ben simmons plays for is getting a

882
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 7: very good. Player but if he, doesn't if he hasn't,

883
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 7: improved then he's going to carry that same sort of,

884
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 7: question and that cloud hang over his head, is you,

885
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 7: know will he ever be able to develop some sort of,

886
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 7: shot some sort of midrange offensive, game because that's kind

887
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 7: of holding him back from really excelling right. Now he's

888
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 7: a fantastic player at both ends of The floyd does

889
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 7: a lot of good things for his. Team, defensively is

890
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 7: one of the best in the, league and offensively he's

891
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 7: a really good, facilitator can push the, ball but that

892
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 7: shot really not becoming an improving factor in his game

893
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 7: so far in his first four. Seasons he's starting to,

894
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 7: become you, know holding him back a little. Bit but

895
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 7: it seems that no matter, what he will not be

896
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 7: In philadelphia to start next.

897
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 2: Season, YEAH i would agree with that, though if you

898
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: believe the reports of What Daryl moury and The sixers

899
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 2: are asking for For Ben, Simmons they're gona have to

900
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: come down a little bit on their. DEMANDS i think

901
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 2: The raptors one was basically their entire starting lineup For Ben,

902
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 2: simmons and the other one was about twenty draft PICKS

903
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: i think For Ben. Simmons so, YEAH i Think maury

904
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: shooting for the moon right, NOW, Tk But i'm with.

905
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: You i've said. It you, know, basically as soon as

906
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 2: he turned down that dunk in the, playoffs he's, like he's.

907
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 2: Gone they don't want him. There they got to move,

908
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 2: On And i'm with, You, League he's going to be.

909
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 2: Traded it's just a matter of where and. WHEN, Tk

910
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 2: do you agree or is there any chance That ben's

911
00:43:58,719 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: still in A philadelphia.

912
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 3: Uniform sixers are in.

913
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 6: A tough spot right, now, because like you're, Saying, skeets

914
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 6: not only Did Ben simmons pass up the dunk underneath

915
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 6: the hoop with three and a half minutes, left And

916
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 6: beid And Duck rivers literally buried the.

917
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 3: Guy in the press conference, afterwards.

918
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 6: Basically saying that single play with three and a half

919
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 6: minutes left is the reason we lost this, game which

920
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 6: is total nonsense to. Me Like Joel embiid had two

921
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 6: turnovers going further on in that, game that was part

922
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 6: of the reason you lost. Too but clearly they're just

923
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 6: done With. Simmons, meanwhile Like lie, Saying Ben simmons is really,

924
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 6: Good like the problems show up in the. Playoffs we

925
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 6: all know the, flaws but he also gets you to the.

926
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 6: Playoffs that's. Important playing in the playoffs is. Good so

927
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 6: his value right, now his trade value is at an

928
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 6: all time. Low, Meanwhile Darryl moury knows that he's got

929
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 6: a long contract still, here he's still a solid, player

930
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 6: so he's asking for everything out. There and Like John hollinger,

931
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 6: said Like i'll never, forget The simmons bone is connected

932
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 6: to The beal. Bones so right, now the Six thoughs

933
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 6: should just be waiting for one of these, teams whether

934
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 6: it be the rap or The wizards or The, trailblazers

935
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 6: to actually decide to blow things. Up and then maybe

936
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 6: you step in and you're, like, okay we don't need

937
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 6: seven draft picks if you're going to throw it An All.

938
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 6: Stars so whenever one of those teams, finally box is

939
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 6: when this probably gets.

940
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 2: Done, tess what do you?

941
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 5: Think, yeah he gets dealt for several. REASONS i think

942
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 5: part of it is the lay of the land right.

943
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 5: Now you see the teams that just made the finals

944
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 5: kind of you, know you, know put it all together pretty.

945
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 5: Quickly The hawks as, well make the conference finals pretty.

946
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 5: Quickly it seems like you can turn it around, fast

947
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 5: even though that's not necessarily. True it still takes years

948
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 5: to get. There BUT i, think, yeah a lot of

949
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 5: gms are you, know looking At Ben simmons and saying

950
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 5: he could be a huge catalyst on our. Team and he.

951
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 5: Could AND i Think Darryl moury is another reason Why

952
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 5: Ben simmons gets. Traded Darryl mory is a. Trader he's a,

953
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 5: wheeler he's a. Dealer he didn't get put in there

954
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 5: to sit on his. Laurels now he is in a

955
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 5: different position here with The sixers holding the best, piece

956
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 5: the best piece in the. Deal, here he's not trying

957
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 5: to he's not trying to look for a superstar. Necessarily

958
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 5: he's trying to look for parts, again unlike what he

959
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 5: did with you, know With, houston where he Traded Chris.

960
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 5: PAUL i, mean he's He's he's been on both, sides

961
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,959
Speaker 5: AND i think he can find a way to Deal

962
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 5: Ben simmons And Rich paul will be happy no matter

963
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 5: what to get him out of. THERE i, Mean Rich

964
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 5: paul helped Get Eric bledsoe, traded So i'm sure there

965
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 5: will be a way to Get Ben simmons out of.

966
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 5: There AND i think another reason you've got to trade

967
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 5: him now Is Joel embiid's. Knees Joel embiid isn't getting.

968
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 5: Healthier even though he was had an incredible, season his best,

969
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 5: season he still only played fifty one. Games he was

970
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 5: playing on one leg in the. Playoffs so you got

971
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 5: to go for. It you have to go for it right.

972
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 5: Now and even though you Know Ben simmons can still

973
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 5: be a great player on The philadelphia seventy six, ers

974
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 5: it's just probably gonna happen somewhere. Else but, yeah he

975
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 5: needs somebody to come in and be more of a.

976
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 5: Creator and, Yeah Ben simmons took lots of flak after that,

977
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 5: series and he should have taken lots of. FLACK i,

978
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 5: mean he didn't shoot when he had a done. Opportunity,

979
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 5: Well joel And bid tried to carry that. Team so,

980
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 5: Yeah embiid need somebody pretty. QUICK i mean how long

981
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 5: how many more years Does embiid? Have he needs somebody

982
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 5: else to really help him, out even though he's twenty.

983
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 5: SEVEN i don't think those knees are twenty seven years.

984
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 5: OLD i think those those are. Old we got to

985
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 5: get A hollinger back on to ask. Him Is Joel

986
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 5: ebid's knee bone twenty seven years? Old how old is that?

987
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 5: Thing how old is that? Kneecap, cause, like how can

988
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 5: you rely on that guy night in and night? OUT

989
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 5: i mean that's a lot to ask of. Him that's

990
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 5: why they signed him to that contract that they, did

991
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 5: where if he got injured then they get their money back,

992
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 5: Basically so, yeah he should get dealt pretty.

993
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 2: Soon all, Right this next one is. HILARIOUS i couldn't

994
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 2: believe it happened while task was, gone had me. Dying

995
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 2: but according to Mir And, fader the author of the

996
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 2: upcoming Book Jannis The Improbable rise of AN NBA, Mvp Jason,

997
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 2: kidd then head, coach reportedly punished The bucks in twenty

998
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 2: fourteen because one player had the wrong. Phone yes this

999
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: is serious. Here fader wrote that when Former Buck, center

1000
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 2: Though maker produced an error in the team's group chat

1001
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 2: by using An android instead of an. iPhone kid made

1002
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 2: the entire team run laps Because don had ruined the

1003
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 2: team's quote blue bubble iPhone group. Chat now we've all

1004
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 2: been here. BEFORE i joked On. Twitter we used to

1005
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 2: have this issue with. Task it was AN androidi for

1006
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: a long, time AND i was sort of did you

1007
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 2: go back to the? iPhone i GUESS i can't. Remember but,

1008
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: anyway the question, here the up down is are you

1009
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: up or down on shaming that One android user of the,

1010
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 2: Group you, know that One android person in your group.

1011
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 2: Chat trey will start with you up or?

1012
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 3: Down all?

1013
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 6: Right in twenty, fourteen If i'm going, back If i'm

1014
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 6: gonna loci this and go back to twenty, fourteen shout

1015
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 6: out TO. Jt Thor, ye go back to twenty, Fourteen

1016
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 6: Jason kidd and Fond. Maker i'm With Jason kidd on this.

1017
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 6: ONE i am shaming fun Like circey walking through the. Streets, shame, shame,

1018
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 6: Shame get this.

1019
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 3: Man some blue.

1020
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 6: Bubbles but now in twenty twenty, one, SKEETS i am

1021
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 6: down on shaming the android phone user iPhone users have

1022
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 6: gone too far at this. Point we got to stop

1023
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 6: using our reactions and group. Text just send text back

1024
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 6: and forth or switch To. WhatsApp, that to me is

1025
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 6: the main problem with this. Story, Yeah Jason, kidd rather

1026
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 6: than bring the teams together on a third party, app

1027
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 6: decided to drive the teams apart because of blue bubbles

1028
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 6: and green. BUBBLES i don't think that's a smart. Move

1029
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 6: as a, coach you gotta be able to think outside

1030
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 6: the built in. Apps you have to tell your team

1031
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 6: to download the. Apps you gotta start the group chats

1032
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 6: so that you can all send pictures and videos and

1033
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 6: maybe like a meme here here and. There you, know

1034
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 6: you gotta be able to send memes back and. Forth

1035
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 6: being able to build, technologically it's a great way to,

1036
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 6: bond great way to keep everybody on the same, page

1037
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 6: especially when you're traveling so. Much but this is just

1038
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 6: another case Of Jason kidd botching things to. Me Like

1039
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 6: i'm saying in twenty, FOURTEEN i would have been right

1040
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 6: there with. Him we've just gone overboard in the blue bubble.

1041
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 2: Game, okay hold, on watch.

1042
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 5: Botch, botch everybody batching. This this is. Embarrassing you don't

1043
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 5: start a group chat IN I message if you want

1044
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 5: to have a great group. Chat there's so many different

1045
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 5: apps we. Skeetz you, said DID i go back from?

1046
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 5: iPhone i. Couldn't what's my phone? History you don't remember

1047
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 5: because we didn't start group chats really an. iPhone it

1048
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 5: would just be some random picture of somebody sending it

1049
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 5: in AN i message. Chat because we're better than. That

1050
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 5: there are better apps to start group chats. In you

1051
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 5: don't need to use. It and, PLUS i, mean, Yeah Jason,

1052
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 5: kidd do you want to get acclimated with your international

1053
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 5: players who are quite often not On apple. Phones let's

1054
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 5: get with, it thought makers not on An apple. Store

1055
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 5: the rest of the world Isn't. America there are other

1056
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 5: countries in this world who don't Use apple. Phones lee's

1057
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 5: In europe right. Now i'm sure he walks by a

1058
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 5: ninety percent of people aren't On apple. PHONES i don't know.

1059
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 5: THAT i Don't i'm not a man of the world

1060
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 5: Like lee. Is but the fact, is what a. Mistake

1061
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 5: what a mistake By Jason kidd to try and start

1062
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 5: a chat USING I. Message ridiculous to alienate your player

1063
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 5: and thon maker sad just sad stuff And i'm Sure

1064
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 5: yanni's wasn't on an iPhone. Either i'm sure he came

1065
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 5: Via android too with his. Family unless the game all free,

1066
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 5: iPhones i don't. Know it's, sad very.

1067
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 2: Sad very defensive there from task sounds like a Real

1068
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 2: android user at one point and ask Me, lee where

1069
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: do you land on this? One up or? Down did

1070
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 2: you have a? Point kid's, like come, on, MAN i

1071
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 2: send a photo and because we got this One android,

1072
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: user we can't even see the damn photo. Now it's

1073
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 2: like this tiny. Thumbnail, yeah what do you?

1074
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 7: Think, well IF i Was Jason, KID i would HAVE

1075
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 7: i guess then would would have still seen the. Message

1076
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,439
Speaker 7: i'm just trying to, think rather than punish the whole,

1077
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 7: team just put a message on there That thon wouldn't

1078
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 7: have been able to see or determined if you want

1079
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,919
Speaker 7: us to punish, him because the the other guys are going,

1080
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 7: like what the hell are you punishing us?

1081
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 2: For, well that was sort of that's the whole point

1082
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 2: of this. STORY i think this Was kid's culching. Style,

1083
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 2: yeah it's, like you, know if one guy's leap to the,

1084
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 2: gym then everybody's going to be. Punished, yeah get that

1085
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 2: guy to start showing up on.

1086
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 7: You, yeah but the real key here Is I'm i'm

1087
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 7: BOTH i have An apple AND i have An. ANDROID

1088
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 7: i have to pick up The android for this trip

1089
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 7: here because you can tether it and use the data on.

1090
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 7: It so it's worked. Perfectly so, basically, Yeah i've been

1091
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 7: walking around a complete douchebag with two phones. Exactly. Yeah,

1092
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 7: yeah because you can Through Google. Fi you can tether

1093
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 7: your iPhone to, that but you can't tether your laptop

1094
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 7: from Your apple On Google, fi which is, like it's

1095
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 7: kind of, Annoying BUT i bought that as a sort of,

1096
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 7: LIKE i just don't know exactly how The internet's going

1097
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 7: to be in every Place i'm going to, Be so

1098
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 7: you grab That Google. Fi it's unlimited plan In.

1099
00:52:58,560 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 2: Europe it's.

1100
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 7: Great so, yeah Now i've just got two.

1101
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 2: Phones, okay all, right WELL i mean that then then

1102
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 2: you're proving kids. POINT i, MEAN i think Thoughn maker

1103
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 2: probably makes more money than you were ever. Making league

1104
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 2: just get a second.

1105
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 7: Phone, then, yeah he could have done, that stor he

1106
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 7: could have just, said you know, what Like, jason kids

1107
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 7: and old, man he doesn't know what he's doing. Anyway

1108
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 7: he why did he just get everyone. On what's?

1109
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 2: That, okay, yeah, okay, okay all, right well let's say

1110
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 2: it from.

1111
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 5: Everybody and the kid has a, kid ask, him ask

1112
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 5: him what are the kids doing for the? Group jests,

1113
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 5: man the.

1114
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 7: Kid but the kid did what was his Son's then

1115
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 7: we saw him j, yeah, yeah.

1116
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 2: You, know big old hand when he was, like he's

1117
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: growing into. It he's, fine he's growing into. It it's

1118
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 2: aly normal. Now but, man all, right final one, Here

1119
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 2: this one's made even crazier than that last, one which

1120
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,479
Speaker 2: was us arguing About Thon maker having An android phone

1121
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 2: in twenty fourteen And jason.

1122
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 6: Here Apparently Thon maker was not on The bucks in twenty.

1123
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 6: Fourteen he didn't make it into THE nba until the

1124
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 6: twenty sixteenth seventeen, season and kid WhatsApp was very very well.

1125
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 6: Established i'm Team maker here for. Sure oh, OKAY i

1126
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 6: had that rung THEN i maybe had my sourceerr on.

1127
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 6: There this next, one oh. Okay Kyrie irving guys had

1128
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:21,240
Speaker 6: some strong criticism for the latest version of his Own nike. Shoe,

1129
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 6: andrew maybe you can throw the photo up here WHILE

1130
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 6: i set this one, up Because kyrie says this on

1131
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 6: a leak of his own shoe.

1132
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 3: Here.

1133
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 2: QUOTE i have nothing to do with the design or

1134
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 2: marketing of this Upcoming kyrie. Eight okay, again That's kyrie

1135
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 2: writing through his Verified instagram account on this. Post these are,

1136
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 2: trash he, CONTINUED i have absolutely nothing to do with.

1137
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 2: Them nike plans to release it without my, okay regardless

1138
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 2: of WHAT i, Say SO i apologize in advance end.

1139
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 2: Quote and we're showing you the picks here if you're

1140
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: joining us On YouTube live right now or watching a

1141
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 2: little bit. LATER i guess these are the Leak kyrie

1142
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 2: eates And kyrie is not a. Fan so tas are

1143
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 2: you up and down On kyrie calling his own shoes trash?

1144
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 2: PUBLICLY i love.

1145
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 5: IT i love it, ABSOLUTELY talki or Shit. KYRIE i,

1146
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 5: mean don't bow down to the, man don't bow down

1147
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 5: to the altar of the. Brand we all do. It

1148
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 5: look at what we sell on this. Show we'll sell

1149
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 5: anything on this. Show but he's not letting the brand

1150
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 5: speak for. Him and in this, INSTANCE i, mean he's

1151
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 5: got a huge deal With, nike and Apparently nike is

1152
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 5: coming out with the shoe That kyrie won't even put

1153
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 5: on his Own. Instagram this is just a verified comment

1154
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 5: on this Other instagram, account but he. Won't he won't

1155
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 5: put that ugly thing on his own, account, no, Sir

1156
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 5: so if he's got an, issue, YEAH i Guess nike

1157
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 5: going forward with it without his? Consent, sure why should?

1158
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 5: He why shouldn't he be? MAD i know we all in,

1159
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 5: general the, public we'll say, That, kyrie do you talk too?

1160
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 5: Much but why should he concede to this if he

1161
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 5: has not given the. Approval i'm sure it's in his

1162
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:05,720
Speaker 5: contract that he must approve.

1163
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 6: Things, well maybe it's not in his. Contract that's probably

1164
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 6: what this. Is it's him SAYING i should have more

1165
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 6: approvals in my contract for this Because nike it's not

1166
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 6: like they're whipping the shoe up overnight and putting it.

1167
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 6: Out it's not Like kyrie would have had zero opportunity

1168
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 6: to see. This these take years to research and make

1169
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 6: and actually get some production stages right. Here and to,

1170
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 6: me this sounds Like kyrie, SAYING i want more ownership

1171
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 6: over what my shoe is going to, be both from

1172
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 6: a marketing perspective what it looks, like and you, know

1173
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 6: just having more control over his brand Within, nike Like lebron,

1174
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 6: does Like kobe, Did like all of these legends who

1175
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 6: have come before. Him, Meanwhile nike is going to do

1176
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 6: What nike. Does they're going to keep putting out shoes

1177
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 6: because that's what they. Do and If kyrie hasn't gotten

1178
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 6: on board with it, yet there's probably language in the

1179
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,399
Speaker 6: contract that says we're putting out a signature shoe every.

1180
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 6: Year here's what it's going to. Be hopefully you like. It,

1181
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 6: Yeah and if he doesn't like it as much right,

1182
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,760
Speaker 6: now perhaps this is a little bit negotiating in, public

1183
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 6: saying and give me a little bit more say so?

1184
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 4: Here?

1185
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 5: Yeah maybe or maybe, right Because kyrie would probably post

1186
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 5: the the excerpt from his contract saying, HEY i can

1187
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 5: have first rights of a refusal if it actually was in,

1188
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 5: there Because kyrie is not afraid to post. Anything so

1189
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 5: maybe maybe it's not in the. Contract uh It's it's

1190
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 5: damn well confusing. Though why a situation would get to

1191
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 5: this point with the guy who's got the number one

1192
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 5: selling shoe in the league for like six years running

1193
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 5: that something is, posted that there's not a shoe that

1194
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 5: is made that he doesn't. LIKE i, mean that's just fricking.

1195
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 6: Weird apologies in advance new stream team. Shirts apologies in.

1196
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 6: Advance this is.

1197
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 2: My hang up with. This, Like kyrie is not the

1198
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 2: First nike athlete to be pissed off or displeased with.

1199
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 2: Shoe this, happens, Right. TREY i, mean you probably know

1200
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 2: more about this THAN i. Do but like you know

1201
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 2: stories back To jordan didn't Like Air jordan too when

1202
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 2: he saw it write whatever And LEBRON i think reworked

1203
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 2: numbers Like lebron six like. Completely but the difference is

1204
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 2: the disagreements usually happened behind closed doors between the brand

1205
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 2: and the, athlete Not kyrie just blowing it up publicly

1206
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 2: and SAYING i don't like this shoe or this is

1207
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 2: not the DIRECTION i wanted to go with. IT i

1208
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 2: think that's the huge difference, here and that makes sense

1209
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 2: With kyrie. Irving he likes to do it this type of,

1210
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 2: stuff which IS i, MEAN i think rubs a lot

1211
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 2: of people the wrong. Way but then more power to.

1212
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 2: Him this just this weird little thing, Here. Lee it's

1213
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 2: just weird that again this happens the athlete and the

1214
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 2: brand disagree on. SOMETHING i don't think this happens often,

1215
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 2: then where the athlete just publicly says this shoe is

1216
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 2: garbage with my name attached to it and don't buy

1217
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 2: it basically is what he's, saying BECAUSE i didn't have

1218
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 2: enough saying is what we're led to. Believe what do you?

1219
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 7: Think, yeah, well it sounds like it's just a licensing,

1220
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 7: deal Basically nike saying we'll pay you you pretend this

1221
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 7: is your, shoe but we're just going to do all

1222
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 7: the work and you just have to endorse. It And

1223
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 7: kyrie is, like, ah, OKAY i don't like that at.

1224
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 7: ALL i had nothing to do with, this and He's

1225
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 7: i'll be, saying but this is so he was flying with,

1226
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 7: yeah but there may have been something else happened behind

1227
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 7: the scenes where he did, Say, OKAY i want to

1228
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:09,919
Speaker 7: have a bit more. INFLUENCE i don't like these. SHOES

1229
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 7: i don't like the way. LOOKING i want this to

1230
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 7: have a, better different, message whatever it, is And nijer said,

1231
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 7: sorry contract says we're doing, this so we're doing, it

1232
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 7: and he's, like, okay, Well i'm just going, to you,

1233
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 7: know blast you on social media something like, that Because

1234
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 7: kyrie is not afraid to sort of just dance to

1235
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 7: his own beat. There So i'll be interested to see

1236
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 7: what the response is, here because it's embarrassing For. Nike

1237
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,919
Speaker 7: it's it's like a, man an, athlete An all star,

1238
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 7: athlete is just saying these are. TRASH i, mean that's pretty.

1239
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 7: Bad so maybe that contract comes to an end or

1240
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 7: they somehow rectify that and they, say all, right all,

1241
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 7: right from now, on you, know next, shoe whatever it,

1242
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 7: is you, know you can have a lot more saying

1243
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 7: a lot more. Influence i'm not sure which way it.

1244
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 7: Goes it really depends on how well those shoes move

1245
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 7: and in terms of how much money they. Make if

1246
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 7: the money is, there then you can See nike kind

1247
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 7: of bowing To. Kyrie if the money's not, THERE i

1248
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 7: can See nike's, saying you know, what let's cut him.

1249
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 2: Loose, yeah just throwing this up. Here Like trey, said

1250
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 2: we had nothing to do with the design or marketing

1251
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 2: of these stream team. Shirts these are, trash absolutely nothing

1252
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 2: to do with. Them Breaking tea plans to release these

1253
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 2: without r okay regardless of what we, Say so we

1254
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 2: apologize in. Advance everybody go to no dunks dot com

1255
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 2: gets your stream team. Shirts maybe this is just some, slick,

1256
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 2: sick psycho twisted marketing here From KYRIE. Gk LIKE i

1257
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 2: don't think we. CAN i, Mean i'm, joking but Maybe

1258
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 2: i'm not a little bit. NO i mean it seems

1259
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 2: like he was really upset with, these but very.

1260
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 3: Weird, Nonetheless, yeah definitely.

1261
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 6: Strange But, kyrie remember when The bubble was going to

1262
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 6: be starting last, season he was, saying we don't even

1263
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 6: necessarily need THE. Nba we could start our own. League

1264
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 6: the guy understands the ownership is very important and controlling

1265
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 6: what your name is attached to is very, important and,

1266
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 6: that to, me is what he's doing, here is SAYING

1267
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 6: i need to be in charge Of. Kyrie so we'll

1268
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 6: see how it turns. Out can we see those shoes

1269
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 6: again one more, time, Though, andrew because one thing that

1270
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 6: was really surprising to. ME i, Mean i'm not a

1271
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 6: huge fan of what these look. Like so, far we're

1272
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 6: not getting a great, yeah but are they high? Tops

1273
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 6: that's surprising to. ME i Thought Kyrie irving he's been

1274
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 6: on the low's game for a little bit.

1275
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 5: Here.

1276
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well i've got two pairs Of kyrie's at, home

1277
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 7: and they're they're more like this one though they're a

1278
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 7: bit higher. Up yeah maybe in mid, yeah, yeah the friends.

1279
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 7: Won and then there's the other. One i've gotten they

1280
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 7: seem a little higher than the traditional low cut ones

1281
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 7: that Like kobe Rots awards in. There but uh, yeah,

1282
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 7: Interesting well think stuff in Other kyrie.

1283
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 2: News just to slip this in, Here i'm sure you

1284
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 2: guys saw, It kyrie's foundation partnered with AN ngo to

1285
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 2: build a solar powered water plant in A pakistani village

1286
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 2: that was in desperate need of clean, water electricity and

1287
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 2: stuff like. That so kudos To kyrie on. That but

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01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 2: He's he's always in the headlines for something so. Wild.

1289
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 2: Stuff that's it from the stream. Team let us know

1290
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 2: what you. Think are upper down On kyrie trashing his own?

1291
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 2: Shoes do you have a point? Here is he going

1292
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 2: about it the wrong? Way what do you? Think let us. Know,

1293
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 2: okay we still got tweeted the, night but we gotta

1294
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 2: take one more break to pay the bills and we

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01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 2: love all of these. Products where about to sell? You,

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01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 2: okay let's get to tweet of the, night.

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01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 5: Tweet over, Night, wow Tweet.

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01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 3: Today's tweet of the.

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01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 6: Night not even a, tweet, Skeets it's a YouTube thread

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01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 6: on our YouTube. Page you can like the, channel you can,

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01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 6: subscribe like the, videos turn on your, notifications search For

1302
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 6: No Dunk's ink on. YouTube you will find us on

1303
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 6: Yesterday's Each. Step in, EPISODE i mentioned how A tabasco

1304
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 6: sauce commercial changed my, life and then the stream team

1305
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 6: suggested that we should make A No Dunk's hot, sauce

1306
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 6: which to me seemed like a tossed off. Joke BUT

1307
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 6: i got some follow up from my main, Man Big

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01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 6: smooth about getting into with a sauce, maker a custom sauce.

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01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 6: Maker so we put up a question on our YouTube

1310
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 6: page what's a good name for A No Dunks hot?

1311
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 6: Sauce and the stream team the YouTube subscribers came through

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01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 6: with some seriously great. Answers here's one from Y cram.

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01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 3: Twenty we got.

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01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 6: All maybe like a you, know like A texas inspired

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01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,919
Speaker 6: kind of hot SAUCE i think is what that one would.

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01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 3: BE i also like this From Brendan.

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01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 6: Neufeld instead of a truck that sells, food a sauce that's.

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01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 2: Hot what do you, think? SKETZ i, MEAN i didn't

1319
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 2: see any of these, comments but if there's not a temper,

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01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 2: boy oh it's.

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01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 6: Interesting go, ahead we'll continue on this one from size N.

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01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 6: Z we had a lot of these that are playing

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01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 6: on Tip Love you, guys, awesome burn Up Love you

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01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 6: saw SOME i think was the, best but there are

1325
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 6: still other ways to play around with. That and then

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01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 6: here are my two. Favorites this one comes From John

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01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 6: Nelson Beech, pepper AND i almost Like beech peppin a

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01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 6: little bit, more but there's something THERE i think with

1329
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 6: Regards pepper's. Stepping here comes the, oh here comes the

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01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 6: hot pepper that would be in hot, sauce And Top

1331
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 6: task could obviously do a performance for, it BUT i

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01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 6: think this is the.

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01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,959
Speaker 3: Suggestion this one comes to us From Nate.

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01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 6: EDWARDS a very solid, sauces perhaps a very hot sauce

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01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 6: could also be a name for. It we throw at

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01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 6: least two thumbs up on there as, well but we

1337
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 6: want to hear more suggestions from y'all in the stream

1338
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 6: team for what we should name A No Dunk's hot

1339
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 6: sauce and also what kind of flavors.

1340
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 3: A No Dunk's hot sauce would. BE i don't know

1341
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 3: if they make a banana flavored hot sauce.

1342
01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 7: Hot pepper? Bananas aren't they think something like?

1343
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 3: That banana? Peppers, yeah, yeah, yeah bana pepper theme.

1344
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 6: SAUCE i think steak and, shake.

1345
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 3: And also if you've got a hot, sauce.

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01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 5: O cup at.

1347
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 2: Me, yeah On, Twitter, instagram wherever you.

1348
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 3: Want i'll talk sauce with.

1349
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 2: Anyone this isn't a bad, one, Uh, Dorian i'm not

1350
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 2: even gonna try and click it because Stream yard's being so.

1351
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 2: Weird But dorian says in the stream Stream Team Atomic,

1352
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 2: wedgie it's pretty. Good pretty. GOOD i, MEAN i don't

1353
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 2: mind the idea of like maybe we just have a

1354
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 2: series of, these like a very solid sauce that'd Be

1355
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 2: lely's temper boy could be. MINE i, like here comes

1356
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 2: the hot pepper for tasks and then whatever we got,

1357
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 2: ourselves some playing we got. OURSELVES i MEAN i think

1358
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 2: there's a lot of t shirts in.

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01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 7: There they're all.

1360
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 2: Trash, yeah.

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01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 3: Terrible sauce without our.

1362
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 2: Consent, wow we're gonna get into sauce games that we're gonna.

1363
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 5: Do, yeah.

1364
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 2: We get task as a, wife start like putting them

1365
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,479
Speaker 2: into put it into some. Recipes you, know maybe another

1366
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 2: book come out solely about our. Sauces. Tasks good synergy.

1367
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 7: Though, yeah multiple, sauces.

1368
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 6: Get your four pack of multiple. Sauces no, dunce that's not.

1369
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 6: Bad that's not, bad great storming.

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01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 2: Session, yeah it love.

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01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 7: It hey, listen just before we go go just before

1372
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,959
Speaker 7: tonight's the, draft and obviously tonight it's all about. Words

1373
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 7: she's not allowed to tip the, pick so you know

1374
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 7: that because he's AT. Espn but of course he does

1375
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 7: the laser in and focused on and had resist.

1376
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 2: Charms just check his ass.

1377
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 7: Anyway, right, well just as the show's been, Happening i've

1378
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 7: actually got someone in MY dm Saying Josh giddy is

1379
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 7: apparently going to be taking number six by the thunder.

1380
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 7: Tonight apparently they've been super.

1381
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 2: Spressed Lisa, drew come on back here multiple. S, listen.

1382
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 7: LISTEN i, KNOW i know this is my only chance

1383
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 7: if it goes, wrong IF i IF i get it, Wrong, okay,

1384
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 7: Fine i'll Never i'll never have another hip. Again but

1385
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 7: THIS i can say. THAT i only bring this up

1386
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 7: because the person who's coming from him like extremely. Reliable, okay,

1387
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 7: yeah so, no it's not, no it's not. That apparently

1388
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 7: apparently this is this is the information That i'll just

1389
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 7: read the information because.

1390
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 2: People Are.

1391
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 7: Apparently apparently the head coach and owner were at his

1392
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 7: workout On tuesday and were super impressed from. Him two

1393
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 7: assistants flew in as well for the. Workout so, YEAH

1394
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 7: i had had a big, team AND i think the

1395
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 7: thunder coach.

1396
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 2: A little juicy that.

1397
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 7: The, person LIKE i, say the person who told, Me i'm, like,

1398
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 7: okay that's coming from someone, very very. Reliable so we'll.

1399
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 7: SEE i hope YOU i so hope he goes SO

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01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 7: i could Beat. Watch i'm.

1401
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 2: INCREDIBLE i hope you're. RIGHT i hope your sources are.

1402
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 2: Right your ses are sweet and. Hot But, andrew would,

1403
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 2: you as AN okc, fan be. Excited let's say let's

1404
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 2: Say lee's right. Here let's say is his sources are plugged.

1405
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 2: In you Take giddy tonight tomorrow when we talk to,

1406
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 2: you are you excited or are you? Like?

1407
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 3: What are you?

1408
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 8: Confused i'd be a little more giddy if they trade

1409
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 8: back to get him rather than in six, okay an

1410
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 8: acquire an, asset BECAUSE i think there's the, value isn't

1411
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 8: there at?

1412
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 5: Six?

1413
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 8: OKAY i think the value is more there at like

1414
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 8: eight or.

1415
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 3: Nine.

1416
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 2: Okay so people are, saying Is giddy playing in The

1417
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 2: olympics right?

1418
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 4: Now?

1419
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 5: Lee he is.

1420
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 7: NOT i think he got. Caught, YEAH i think he

1421
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 7: was one of the very last ones to get, caught

1422
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 7: which is uh, yeah.

1423
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 2: Okay all, right Well lee's calling a. Shot The lee

1424
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,799
Speaker 2: bomb has been. Dropped giddy at number six to, okay

1425
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 2: c this art here, first all, right go ahead and

1426
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:50,719
Speaker 2: clip this and post. It you gotta forget forget like clipping.

1427
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 2: This you gotta tweet, this tweet it just like lead into,

1428
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 2: it you, know say you.

1429
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 7: Know, What i'm just gonna let, me, okay let me.

1430
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 5: Just can you go? Back sometimes you make? Mistakes can

1431
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 5: you go back to your D? M is it six

1432
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 5: ers at? Sixteen because they have both.

1433
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 7: Six Six because BECAUSE i got, asked he, said what

1434
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 7: are you hearing About Jeff? Geedey AND i, SAID i

1435
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 7: hear he's going as high as. Ten we just spiked to,

1436
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 7: holiday asked you, yeah, yeah and he said hold, on hold,

1437
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 7: on hold, On but then he's saying then he's, saying

1438
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 7: then he's saying he's going high.

1439
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 2: Up he was, asking oh it was like just seeing

1440
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 2: if you knew what he. Knew oh all, right, yeah, yeah,

1441
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 2: yeah oh this is. Excited, okay lead tweet. It you'll

1442
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 2: either be the next woes choms or you, know it'll

1443
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 2: blow up in your face and calculately and we can

1444
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 2: talk about. It, okay we got a call. There this

1445
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 2: has been a long. Show we got the draft, tonight,

1446
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 2: guys enjoy. That we'll be back tomorrow, morning ten Am

1447
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 2: eastern live here on. YouTube we'll turn it around and

1448
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,719
Speaker 2: turn it into the podcast as soon as humanly. Possible

1449
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 2: but we'll be doing our no, doubt our winners and

1450
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 2: losers from THE Nba draft tonight and some of our

1451
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 2: favorite moments and all. That so h if you see

1452
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 2: something we should be talking, about tweet at us At

1453
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 2: No Dunk sync On, twitter and uh you, know of,

1454
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 2: course celebrate and can gratulate ly When giddy goes TO

1455
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 2: okac at number. Six thanks To John holder for joining.

1456
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 2: Us go get yourself an athletic subscription in The athletic

1457
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 2: dot com Slash No dunk so they know that we sent.

1458
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 2: You get Your No dunk's Merch apologies and Advance no

1459
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,839
Speaker 2: dunks Dot. Com and, yeah we'll see you guys tomorrow.

1460
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 2: Morning clipper. Bros you heard it here.

1461
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 3: First have a great, time turn. Up love you guys.

1462
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 5: Awesome thanks for joining, us and remember we are everywhere,

1463
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 5: YouTube thread, comments selling. Shirts we're selling sauces now and

1464
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 5: soon we will talk shit on each Other's instagram. Accounts

1465
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 5: just Like, Kyrie.

1466
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:35,440
Speaker 2: Embrace the. Day, people.

1467
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 3: You could say.

1468
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 2: Every day and dang you happy every.

1469
01:10:49,760 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 1: Minuting it's done so long with your wanna, Wady it's

1470
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 1: gonna be.

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01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 5: Grippy