1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Tim Legler ESPN NBA analysts kind enough to 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: join us from Milwaukee. Tim, where does Janis's performance last 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: night and in this series ranked to you all time? 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: The performance itself last night is one of the greatest 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: I've ever seen. And I don't care, you know, if 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: we're putting in the context of NBA playoffs NBA Finals, 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: I don't care period, just in terms of any player 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: in any game. I think about how many athletes get 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: the rare opportunity to play the greatest game of their 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: lives in the most significant moment of their careers. That's 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 1: what he put together last night. Very few guys can 13 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: say those two things in the same sentence, right the 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: other A lot of guys can get to the Promised 15 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: Land and win a championship and it might not be 16 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: their best night. A lot of guys have incredible games 17 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: and of course the regular season in their careers, but 18 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: it's not in this moment, biggest stage, brightest lights, and 19 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: he had the greatest game of his career. It was 20 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: one of the most awesome displays I've ever seen. A 21 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: combining force with the nest because this is a guy 22 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: that obviously struggles at the line to know to do 23 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: that from had a step back eighteen footer in there, 24 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: had a three pointer in there, had a pushshot, like 25 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: a one handed pushshot from the foul line at a 26 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: critical time in the game. Combined with all of that 27 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: power at the rim, and just overwhelming the suns. It 28 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: was just an absolutely awesome display. It's it's it's almost 29 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: hard to describe accurately how great he played last night. 30 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: I actually think he's underrated Tim because we kept looking 31 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: at what he didn't do instead of what he does do. 32 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: And Okay, he didn't make his free throws, but he 33 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: didn't he did make his free throws last night. I 34 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: don't like him handling the ball bringing it up the floor. 35 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: I don't like him taking jumpers. I wanted him down 36 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: on the low post because he was unstoppable there. Boy, 37 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: this is this is certainly a message to the rest 38 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: of the NBA. God forbid. If he does hit all 39 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: of his free throws and he does develop some kind 40 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: of outside shot, I mean, that's scary. That's a scary, 41 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: scary proposition for this. And he does want to get greater, 42 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: as you know, playing in the in the league. Certain 43 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: guys get to a certain level and they're fine with that. 44 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like at age twenty six he's going 45 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: to go you know what, this is the kind of 46 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,399 Speaker 1: player who I am. It just doesn't seem like that's 47 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: in his DNA. Completely agree, and he's he's he's the 48 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: kind of star player. I was thinking about it. You know, 49 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: I played with a lot of stars or the course 50 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: of my career, Hall of Fame players, and you know, 51 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: this is the kind of guy as a star player 52 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: that you want to play with as a teammate because 53 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: there's there's going to be zero complacency and that's what 54 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: you love about him, which is what you're describing. And 55 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: I think a way to sum it up with him, 56 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't want a great moment. This is 57 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: a great moment. He doesn't want a great moment. He 58 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: wants all time greatness and that's going to differentiate him. 59 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: And so it's impossible not to root for this guy. 60 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 1: It just is he's everything you could want an athlete 61 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: to be. The way he goes about his business, the 62 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: kind of person he is, the kind of guy he 63 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: is to be around every day, upbeat, positive, energetic, hardest 64 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: worker on the team, So he sets the tone there, 65 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: you know, constantly giving praise to those around him, despite 66 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: the fact that last night he literally lifted an entire 67 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: team and franchise a city on his back. I mean, 68 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: if you want to talk about a guy putting something 69 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: on their back, we use that phrase all the time. 70 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: Last night, that should be what you see if you 71 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: look that turn up and you google that is Giannis 72 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: thoughts to the Kopa last night because he had very 73 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: little help offensively from his star players. Bobby Portis was 74 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: great or that Bobby Portis last night. They don't win 75 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: the game, but the other guy's middle team was decent late. 76 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: He hit a couple of big moments late in the game, 77 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: but for the most part, Holiday and middle team are 78 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: not good. He scores half their points practically, so he's 79 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: everything you could want in a star player in the 80 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: face of a franchise he epitomizes. I think what it 81 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: should be about to feel the weight and responsibility to 82 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: do this for a franchise that drafted you if you 83 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: reach this level of greatness, And that's what he took 84 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: on when he signed that contract and decided to stay. 85 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: And I think it's phenomenal for the league that a 86 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: guy can prove you can do it this way too. 87 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: It's a different script than what these guys followed. Now, Yeah, 88 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: I think the key now is will free agents want 89 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: to go to Milwaukee. They did make the trade for 90 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: Drew Holliday. They gave up a lot of draft picks 91 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: for him. It feels like a young nucleus is there. 92 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: I also wondered about this tim and maybe I'm seeing 93 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: something different. I thought that the series felt like it 94 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: was shifting when Drew Holliday started to pick up Chris 95 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: Paul three quarters court. It changed the tempo, made Paul 96 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: work a little bit harder, and to me, I know, 97 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: we can talk about the freak with the block or 98 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: the alley youub, but that was a real subtle move 99 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: by the Bucks Mike Budenholzer that I thought changed Chris 100 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: Paul a little bit and changed the Phoenix Suns offensively. 101 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: Am I reading into it too much? No, you're dead 102 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: spot on and after the first game, and you know, 103 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: not even after the first game, about middle of the 104 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: second quarter of the first game, I'm taking notes, getting 105 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: ready to go on after and I'm saying this has 106 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: to be the worst defensive game plan I've seen the 107 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: team come up with to defend pick and roll in 108 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: a long time. You know, you had three days to 109 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: four days wherever it was the Suns to prepare for 110 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: the Buck, I mean the Bucks. To prepare for the Suns. 111 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: You have one of the best mid range players in 112 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: the history of the game and Chris Paul, and you're 113 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: going to decide that you want to either switch all 114 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: ball screens or put your big guy defending the screen 115 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: fifteen feet off the screen so he can come off unimpeded, 116 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: get to an eighteen foot area the floor for a 117 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: lean back jump shot, which his bread and butter play, 118 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: and you'll let him have it the entire game. And 119 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm of the game. I mean everybody was in on 120 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: that obviously, and they just pounding the box and pounding 121 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: their preparation. It made no sense. Give him credit. They 122 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: made the adjustment and they said, if Drew Holliday's on 123 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: the floor, he is going to target Chris Paul and 124 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: so not only picking him up eighty five feet dan 125 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: every time Chris Paul brought it up after either made 126 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: basket or dead ball, and Chris Paul's bringing it up. 127 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,559 Speaker 1: It was holiday seventy five percent at the time. PJ. 128 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: Tucker was doing it. Jeff Teague would come in and 129 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: even do it a little bit. And these guys were 130 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: turning him, bumping him, just draining his power meter. That's 131 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: what it did, and it took away his aggressiveness in 132 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: the half court. But the other thing they did, in 133 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: addition to picking him up, when Jue Holliday was getting 134 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,119 Speaker 1: screened starting in Game two, he wasn't handing him off 135 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: to whoever came up on that screen. He was continuing 136 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: to pursue Chris Paul and eventually with just enough help 137 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: so he couldn't go off a mid range jump shot 138 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: from your big When he would pick the ball up 139 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,799 Speaker 1: Drew Hall, he then was back on his shoulder, making 140 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: sure he wasn't going to be a factor later in 141 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: the possession. So not only the the you know, the 142 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: wear and tear of all those possessions of turning a 143 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: guy and bumping him in a thirty six year old 144 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: guard facing full core pressure, which we don't see in 145 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: the NBA ever nowadays, to do that, but also to say, 146 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: you know, Drew, you're gonna blanket this guy. It's like 147 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: It's like a cover corner, right, And I would remember 148 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm a Washington football team fan and we brought in 149 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: Josh Norman a few years ago, and I was so 150 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: excited because we needed a cover corner. And then the 151 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: very first game, I'm at the game and the star 152 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: wide receiver for the other team, you know, goes in 153 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: motion and Josh Norman doesn't move from his side in 154 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: the field, and I proceeded to watch this guy towards 155 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: the other corner for a huge day. I'm going, what's 156 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: the point of having Josh Norman if he's not going 157 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: to cover this guy the entire time. That's what Drew 158 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: Holliday became starting in Game two. It was Chris Paul 159 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: is going to be targeted. I am the guy to 160 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: do it, and that, to me, that's subtle change. Completely 161 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: changed the complexion of this series. And Chris Paul until 162 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: last night, basically was a non factor offensively. If every 163 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: NBA player were healthy during the postseason, who would have 164 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: won the championship? Brooklyn, I just don't know how anybody 165 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: was supposed to deal with that level of firepower. To me, 166 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: that collection of Durant Harden and Kyrie Irving that is 167 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: the single greatest trio of raw offensive talent ever assembled 168 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: in this league. I do not know how you were 169 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: supposed to have the personnel, that the depth, the scheme 170 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: to be able to defend all that. You're talking about 171 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: three guys that can beat you on every platform offensively. 172 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: They can beat you. They can make plays off the dribble, 173 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: they can beat you from deep on a ball screen, 174 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: they can beat you with the mid range. They're all 175 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: great finishers. What are you supposed to do with that 176 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: much talent? And you can always have a Steve nas 177 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,599 Speaker 1: can always have two of the elite offensive players in 178 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: the game on the court at the same time and 179 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: start and finish every half with all three of those guys. 180 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: It's just too much for anybody to deal with. So 181 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: it was it was going to be the Nets that 182 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna win this. And look, it is a narrative, Danna. 183 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: We're not taking anything away from the Bucks, but you 184 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: can't dismiss the fact that the Nets broke down. The 185 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: Lakers broke down, the Clippers broke down. Even a team 186 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: like Denver with a healthy Jamal Murray after they picked 187 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: up Aaron Gordon. That's a team that legitimately could have 188 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: made it to the NBA Finals. So you can't dismiss 189 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: all of the injuries, but give the Bucks credit. They 190 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: took advantage of what the landscape looked like this year 191 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: and they broke through. And the confidence they have going 192 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: forward could mean this is the start of a great 193 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: run because we don't know if the Nets are gonna 194 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: stay healthy next year. Those guys barely have played together. 195 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: They have a lot to prove, and the Milwaukee Bucks 196 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: are going to carry themselves like champions now. They believe 197 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: they can get through any pressure situation based on the 198 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: way they navigated this postseason. What should the Suns do 199 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: with Chris Paul and what should Chris Paul do with 200 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: the Suns? Well, he's got a player option for forty 201 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: four million, so I know he's not going anywhere. It's 202 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: gonna be. He probably signed that in the locker room 203 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: last night. If he's smart to get make sure he 204 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: gets that forty four million, So he's not going anywhere. 205 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: I think what they have to be honest about look 206 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: at their team, just like we talked with the Bucks 207 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: just now, the same thing with the Suns. Look at 208 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: the landscape in the West with the Kauhi going down, 209 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis going down, Jamal Murray going down. This was 210 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: the perfect storm for the Suns to make this kind 211 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: of run this year. But they're they're a guy away. 212 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: They need an all star caliber wing with some length 213 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: that can get his own shot, because you're not gonna 214 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: you're not gonna get through the Western Conference next year 215 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: if those teams stay healthy with what you have. So 216 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: Chris Paul has a significant role on this team. I 217 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: do believe that. But they can't go forward thinking, oh, 218 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,599 Speaker 1: we've got these two great guards and that's going to 219 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: be enough because we went to the finals last year. 220 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: Assuming that Okay, Ayton gets a little bit better, Bridges 221 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: gets a little bit better, Cam Johnson gets a little 222 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: bit better. The problem is the ceiling of those three 223 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: players is significant, is significantly lower than what we're talking 224 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: about with these other teams and their second and third 225 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: best players. It just is McCall, Bridges and Cam Johnson 226 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 1: are really nice players. They're never gonna have to kind 227 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: of handle that you're gonna need to be a twenty 228 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: to twenty five point scorer in this league on the wing, 229 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: you're just not. And those are the players that lead 230 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: teams to championships, so they're a guy away, but Chris 231 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: Paul will have a significant role on that team, and 232 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: certainly he's going to be untradeable if they decided to 233 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: go at a different route and thinking, yeah, this could 234 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: be a guy to get somebody else over their hump 235 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: at forty four million, I don't know how you do that. 236 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: Who should trade for Damian Lollard. I'd love to see 237 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: Damian Lillard in Philadelphia. If you've paired Damian Lillard with 238 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: Joel Embiid and the shooting that they have there with 239 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: Seth Curry, that to me is a team then that 240 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: can get into the mix in the East and truly challenged. 241 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: Now there's a lot of talk about that. Obviously, that 242 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: would would that would include Ben Simmons leaving town, which 243 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: I think everybody in Philadelphia is ready for and they 244 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: want to see happen. He's an elite level athlete and talent, 245 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: but he is missing a gene that you need, and 246 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: his fear of failure was so evident last year in 247 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: the playoffs. I don't know how you go forward with 248 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons. I just certain markets Dan are never gonna 249 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: forget and forgive and it's unrelenting. And he's in one 250 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: of those markets. I've spent thirty seven years living there. 251 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: He's in one of those markets. Which is another point 252 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: actually about out to the Cooper I was thinking about 253 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: today how blessed and lucky he is to be in 254 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: a place that has shown him unconditional love, forgiveness and 255 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: support despite the fact that he was a two time 256 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: MVP with the number one seed in the league and 257 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: didn't make it to the finals. If he is in 258 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: a Northeast corridor city, there's a very good chance it's 259 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: the media coverage, the fan base coverage. What he's hearing 260 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: every day turns so negative and sour. If you feel 261 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: like you have not lived up to expectations in a 262 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: given year, he probably doesn't make the same decision he 263 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: made to stay. The fact that he's in that type 264 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: of situation allowed him to feel the love even though 265 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 1: they came up short and he was doing everything he 266 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: could to get him there. That was a big factor 267 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: in this. I think that's going to also be the 268 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: situation with Ben Simmons and why he's going to have 269 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: to leave. The first sign of him turning down a 270 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: shot near the Rim next season, whether it's game one, 271 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: game two, they're gonna start and they're never gonna stop 272 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: until he's out. So I think they have to make 273 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: a move. If they can do something with Portland and 274 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: give enough of Ben Simmons picks and maybe feeling at 275 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: Tyree's Max or somebody like that, maybe that's enough to 276 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: get Lord and Lord ebid Is. That would be a 277 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: very phenomenal combination to watch. That was fun. Legs, thanks 278 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: for your contribution to the show, not only today but 279 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: throughout the season. We appreciate it. As always, I always 280 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: love coming on Dan. Thank you, Legs. That's Tim Legler. 281 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 282 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 283 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio WAPP. Ed 284 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: Warder has more ESPN NFL reporter. He covers the Cowboys, 285 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: but he can speak on a variety of topics there 286 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: with the NFL. In fact, Ed, let me start with 287 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: you more interested in finding out about Aaron Rodgers or 288 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson's immediate future. I think I'm more interested in 289 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: finding out about Deshaun Watson just because there are more 290 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: compelling factors involved. In terms of, you know, a player 291 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: of his stature being sued, you know, being investigated by police, 292 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: being investigated by the NFL. We know the NFL is 293 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: not going to move in and put Aaron Rodgers on 294 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: the commissioner's exemplest. This is something for the packers and 295 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: the player to work out. There are more elements involved 296 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: in the Deshaun Watson decision, which occurs about a week 297 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: from today. We'll see whether he reports that he's on 298 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: the field when the NFL allows me, and then I'm 299 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if we've had breaking news with Aaron Rodgers. 300 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: What Chefty reported yesterday to me wasn't breaking news because 301 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: we had heard about this for the last couple of months. There. 302 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: I can't imagine a guy coming off an MVP season, 303 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: one of the greats of all time, and we still 304 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: don't know what he wants like, I just find that 305 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: a great mystery, and nobody's been able to put any 306 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: of these comments into context here. Ed Well, there's been 307 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: a lot of speculation about what his endgame is, and 308 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: some of it is that he wants, you know, the 309 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: general manager replaced. He certainly placed Gutenhurst under a lot 310 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: of scrutiny here, and if the general manager were threatened 311 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: by the possibility of getting fired because of Rogers, it 312 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: seems like he would have already moved Rogers by now. 313 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: To me, I think, just observing what Aaron has said 314 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: over the past few weeks when he's been in public 315 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: situations at a couple different golf tournaments, I get the 316 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: sense that he knows he can't win right now. He'll 317 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: take the best outcome he can get, and I think 318 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: he'll play for the Packers this year eventually. All right, 319 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: you're covering the Cowboys. Cowboys open up camp today, the 320 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: Steelers open up camp. They'll meet in the Hall of 321 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: Fame game. It seems like everything is good in Dallas 322 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: with Cowboys, Is that correct? Everything is good at the moment. Obviously, 323 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: the man who manages the expectations so well here in Dallas, 324 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, will speak to us in a couple of hours, 325 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: really in person for the first time for more than 326 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: a year, and with the hard knock cameras rolling, I 327 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: have great expectations for what the man might say to 328 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: us today. You know, he used to drive Troy Itch 329 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: been absolutely crazy this time of year because back in 330 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: the nineties, he would always predict a Super Bowl and 331 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: so anything short of that was a failure, which just 332 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: drove the players insane. He's avoided saying such things recently, 333 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: but I think expectations are and should be pretty high 334 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: given what we've seen from Dak Prescott recovering from Lale Collins, 335 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: Tyrann Smith. I mean, it all comes down to injuries, 336 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: but they play in a bad division. I think it's 337 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: a you know, Mike McCarthy, I think is under some 338 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: pressure this year. It's been a long time since he's won. 339 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: The team he left has done nicely without him, the 340 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: team he's come to has fared not so well. Alttle, 341 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: there's certainly worre some extenuating circumstances this first year in Dallas. 342 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: Last year. Yeah, I'm trying to figure all of this 343 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: out that you know. I'm sure the reports will be 344 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott's in the best shape of his career. And 345 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: it's always the verbal bouquets are being thrown out when 346 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: it comes to the Cowboys because I think the media, 347 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: either consciously or subconsciously, once the Cowboys to do well, 348 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: like when they at least have some kind of storyline 349 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: there did Jerry Jones make the decision that he wanted 350 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: hard Knucks According to what the way the Cowboys have 351 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 1: characterized it. They were asked to do it, you know, 352 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: and Jerry doesn't really have any He's not revolted by 353 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: the idea of his brand being out there and being 354 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: at the forefront in the NFL. He thinks it helps 355 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: the entire league if the Cowboys are capturing a lot 356 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: of media attention. So I don't know that they solicited it, 357 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: but I think I don't think they mind having that opportunity, especially, 358 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: you know, given like I said, they have a very 359 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: outfront owner and general manager, and Jerry Jones, he likes 360 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: to promote his brand. He likes the opportunity to speak 361 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: to the public himself, and so this arrangement will allow 362 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: all of that to happen. Now, there have been times 363 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: I think when coaches have been exposed, you know, in 364 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: front of the cameras, given how intrusive they are. We're 365 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: going to get a real sense of how Mike McCarthy 366 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: runs his Cowboys football team. And maybe that will be good, 367 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 1: and maybe it won't be. It hasn't been good for everybody. Now, 368 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: if you're going to ask one question to Jerry Jones. 369 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: What's Edward are going to ask today? Wow, that's a 370 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: good question, Dan, I haven't given that enough thought. If 371 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: I could ask one question and Mike McCarthy, I'd ask 372 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 1: him about his experience with Aaron Rodgers and his experience 373 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: with the Packers and how he thinks that whole thing 374 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: plays out for Jerry bad. I like that, But Dallas 375 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 1: fans would probably not be as interested in that, and 376 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: it might be the last time McCarthy takes a question 377 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: from me. But I guess, I guess I would ask, 378 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: you know, Jerry what how he feels like he managed 379 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: the Dack negotiations and what disadvantages they now have to 380 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: overcome because of what they wound up having to pay him, 381 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: you know, probably two years late. They you know, I 382 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 1: think they created a bad situation for themselves when two 383 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: years ago they did what they said they wouldn't and 384 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: they honored Ezekiel Elliott with the highest paid running back 385 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: contract and all the football at a time where the 386 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: running back position has really been valued, including here in 387 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: Dallas by the Coachi hire. I mean, to me, that's 388 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: sort of a misfit situation. I know, Zeke's in great shape. 389 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: I think, you know, he's a terrific football player and 390 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: among the best running backs in the league. But that's 391 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: not the way Mike McCarthy plays football. I mean last 392 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: year when they started together, McCarthy in thirteen years in 393 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: Green Bay never had a running back finish in the 394 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: top ten in attempts. Zeke Elliot had more carries than 395 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: anybody in football since he was drafted in twenty sixteen. 396 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: So I think Zeke Elliott has done challenging for rushing championships. 397 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: And maybe that's fine. I think he'd still be a 398 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: huge part of a winning team if the right circumstances 399 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: are created for him to dominate the close out games 400 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: and so forth, like Derrick Henry does in Tennessee. But 401 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: but I just I don't think it makes sense a 402 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: year later to hire Mike McCarthy, a guy who has 403 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: very little regard for the running game. When you're paid 404 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott to be the highest paid running back in football, 405 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: and you know, spend all this money in draft collateral 406 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: and arranging a great offensive line that's dominant up front 407 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: under Jason Garrett. Yeah, I'm still not sure the philosophy 408 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 1: here comes down to defense. I've said this all along 409 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: the last Well, whatever it comes down to, if you 410 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: win a championship, it comes down to somebody making a 411 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: defensive play. And whether it's Malcolm Butler or Chris Jones 412 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: with the chief like, it's a small thing and you go, oh, 413 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: I got all these stars, all these offensive weapons, everybody's 414 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: putting up these great fantasy numbers. It comes down to 415 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: can you stop somebody at some point in the season. 416 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,719 Speaker 1: Can Dallas stop somebody? Well, they couldn't stop anybody. Last year. 417 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: They gave up a franchise record four hundred and seventy 418 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: three points. But you know then, you know Dan, they've 419 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: only played football in Dallas for sixty one years, so 420 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: small sample side. They allowed two of the three single 421 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: highest rushing totals in an individual game in franchise history. 422 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: They allowed twenty seven touchdown passes to wide receivers, the 423 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: most in the NFL last year. So they were horrible 424 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: across the board, and that's why Mike Nolan got fired 425 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: after one season as a defensive coordinator. But that was 426 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: a that's a Mike McCarthy higher. So beyond all the 427 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: bad decisions, and there were bad hires, and I think 428 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: Dan Quinn is going to be a much take a 429 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 1: much more aggressive approach on defense. Obviously, they dedicated their 430 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: draft to defense in a way they never have before. 431 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: Their first six players were all defensive players, so I 432 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: think that gives them a chance. But I overall, Dan, 433 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: to your point, I think the Cowboys see themselves were 434 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: trying to achieve being the Kansas City Chiefs. They want 435 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: to be a great offensive team, puts up a lot 436 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: of points, makes a lot of explosive plays, and then 437 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,479 Speaker 1: just be good on defense, and maybe they can achieve. 438 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: I think I know they can achieve the first part. 439 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: I think they could be really good on offense if 440 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott stays healthy, which he's done every year but 441 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: last year. It's the defensive part of the equation that 442 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how long that's going to take. But 443 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: if their goal is to be average, I mean that 444 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: seems attainable. Ed Warder from the Mothership covering the Cowboys 445 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: more threatening team the Chargers of the Rams given the 446 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: injuries that have happened, You know, cam acres with the Rams, 447 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: But who do you think is more threatening this year? Well? 448 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: I like the Rams a lot. I covered them quite 449 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: a bit last year after Dak got hurt and the 450 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: Cowboys were at a contention and nobody was interested in 451 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: them anymore. I really like the Matt Stafford dynamic, you know, 452 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: with Sean McVay. But the Acre's injuries this really significant 453 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: one in my mind, having watched him and how much 454 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: you know. He became a dominant factor in the offense 455 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: the second half of the year. But I mean, you 456 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: gotta love the Chargers. They play in a tough situation 457 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: in the division they're in. Hard to imagine them winning 458 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: the division over the Chiefs, but the young quarterback is fantastic, 459 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: and we'll see what effect the coaching change has there. 460 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 1: They are a team that can be really good on 461 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 1: defense and on the other side of the ball. So 462 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: to answer your question, I guess I like the Chargers 463 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: as a sleeper, but I think the Rams probably still 464 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: have a better chance of winning their division. Cowboys played 465 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: the Steelers in the Hall of Fame game. Your reaction 466 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: when the Steelers decided to keep Ben Roethlisberger a little 467 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: surprising given his age and the sharp decline in his performance. 468 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: I remember I covered the Cowboys game against the Steelers 469 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: late last year, the Steelers were what the last undefeated 470 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: team in football? I think eleven and oh and I 471 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: thought it sounded ridiculous. I said this on somebody's radio show. 472 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: I wasn't impressed with the Steelers at that time. You know, 473 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: the emphasis was on getting the ball out of Roethlisberger's 474 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: hands quickly. They couldn't protect him, they couldn't run the football. 475 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm not entirely surprised they gave him one more shot, 476 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: given what he's meant to the organization, and maybe given 477 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: that they didn't think there was a better option out 478 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: there in free agency. But I just don't know how 479 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: well this is going to turn out for the Steelers 480 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, I was surprised as well, unless they 481 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: didn't see a quarterback that they could get or that 482 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: grated out to what they wanted there. But and Ben 483 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: wasn't helped out by those wide receivers. Now you bring 484 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: in Harris from Alabama, you know, is that running attack 485 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: than to help out Ben a little bit more? But 486 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: I I was curious about that. Also, the Russell Wilson 487 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: story that exploded, of course right after the Super Bowl. 488 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,479 Speaker 1: Do you think that the Seahawks are comfortable with Russell 489 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 1: Wilson long term, I think so, but let's see how 490 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: it plays out this year. I mean, he and Pete Carroll. 491 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: From my understanding, I've had a lot of really good 492 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: dialogue about the circumstances that caused Russell Wilson to criticize 493 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: the organization, having watched Tom Brady go win a Super 494 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: Bowl with everything the Bucks did, you know, to accommodate 495 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: him and allow him to play his best football. I mean, 496 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: at the start of last year, we were talking about 497 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: what a dominant player Russell Wilson was, and he was 498 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: the best player in the league. It was gonna win MVP. Really, 499 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: they failed themselves on the other side of the ball. 500 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: For the most part, they did become two one dimensional. 501 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: I mean, Pete Carroll to me, is always going to 502 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: emphasize balance and running the football to the best of 503 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: his ability. So if Russell wants to just go out 504 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 1: there in freelance, you know, on a consistent basis, I 505 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: don't know that that's going to be something Pete Carroll 506 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: wants to move to. And I think Pete Carroll's established 507 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: enough as in that organization and the way they're structured 508 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: with John Snider as a general manager that you know, 509 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: he could outlast Russell Wilson there should should it come 510 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: to that. I'll leave you with this, the Cowboys more 511 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: likely to make the NFC title game or miss the playoffs? Well, 512 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: they've done one a lot more often than they've done 513 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 1: the other. So I'm gonna say they're a lot more 514 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,959 Speaker 1: likely to miss the playoffs just because they haven't been 515 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: in the championship gave in twenty five years. What would 516 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: the fallout be if they don't make the playoffs this year? 517 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it depends on the circumstances. 518 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Mike McCarthy has seen the team 519 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: he left go to consecutive NFC Championship games in his absence. 520 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: He's I can tell you his record, you know, over 521 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: the last two years is really kind of bad. The 522 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: last two full seasons he's had his record in Dallas 523 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 1: six and ten, matched the fewest games that he won 524 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: in a season over thirteen years in Green Bay. Now, 525 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: there were extenuating circumstances. I mentioned he played fifteen different 526 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 1: offensive lines, he started four different quarterbacks, so it wasn't 527 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: entirely his fault. Plus all of the challenges that came 528 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: with the pandemic and the limitations in the offseason for 529 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: a first year head coach. That being said, like I said, 530 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: he made some bad hires. He coached some really bad 531 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: games right from the start the Rams season opener, but 532 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: the Washington game on Thanksgiving Day when they're four points 533 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: down and he's running a fake punt, you know, from 534 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: on fourth and eleven from his own end of the field. 535 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: I mean, he made Barry Switzer look like a game 536 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: management genius at times. So I think that I think 537 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: McCarthy to a certain extent, is coaching for his job. 538 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: If what you we just said is more likely actually happens, 539 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: if they missed the playoff for the third straight year. 540 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: Depending on how it happens, I could certainly see Jerry 541 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: making him the next Chan Gaily, which is the only 542 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: coach he's ever fired after two years. Has Barry Switzer 543 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 1: ever publicly thanked Jimmy John for giving him gift wrapping 544 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl? You know, Barry Switzer said to me 545 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: not too long ago, he said, look, you don't have 546 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: to give me credit for winning a Super Bowl and 547 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: for building, you know, a super Bowl winning team. But 548 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: at least I didn't screw it up. You know, there 549 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: are other guys who would have gotten hired. They would 550 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: have screwed it up. I didn't screw it up, so 551 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: I give him that much credit. At least play nice today. Ed. 552 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 1: We appreciate your time as always, thanks for the opportunity, 553 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: todad good to talk to you. Fox Sports Radio has 554 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all 555 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com and 556 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to listen live. Hey, 557 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: I'm Doug Gottlie. The podcast is called All Ball. We 558 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: usually talk all basketball all the time, but it's more 559 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: about the stories about what made these people love their 560 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: sport and all the interesting interactions along the way. We 561 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: talked to coaches, we talked to players, We tell you stories. 562 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: You download it, you listen to it. I think you 563 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: like it. Listen to All Ball with Doug golib on 564 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, orherever you get your podcast. 565 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: The Man making the Call Ted Davis The Bucks played 566 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: by a play announcer and Paulie picked this up with 567 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: a tribute to a shout out to Tom Petty in 568 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: the lyrics. There room at the top and Ted joins 569 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: us on the program. Did you have it scripted? Ted? 570 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: Not really? I mean I had an idea. I wanted 571 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: to connect fifty years to now. And you know, I'm 572 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: such a big Tom Petty fan. He's the only celebrity 573 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: who when he died it really hit me emotionally because 574 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: I love his music, love his lyrics. They're so simple 575 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: an evocative, and I wanted to work that in somehow, because, hey, 576 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: the Bucks do have a room at the top of 577 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: the world tonight and as Tom Petty said, I ain't 578 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: coming down. What did you think of it felt like 579 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: a coronation with sixty five thousand outside, packed house inside. 580 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: What was that feeling like for you? Trying to set 581 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: the scene on radio? Well, eight years ago, I was 582 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,479 Speaker 1: doing games for the Bucks when Rihannas was a rookie 583 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: and Middleton had just arrived from Detroit, and that team 584 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,719 Speaker 1: won fifteen games, and you've had trouble getting ten thousand 585 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: people in the arena. So to see where the Bucks 586 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: are now, I mean, let's face it, for a long time, 587 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: Milwaukee was NBA Siberia to a lot of players. They 588 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: didn't want to come here. It was a cold weather city. 589 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: It had an aging arena, they had one in a 590 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: long time, and now you look at where they are 591 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: with that beautiful arena selling out every game. The Deer 592 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: District out there had I don't know how many people 593 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: sixty sixty five thousand people just standing outside. The NBA 594 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: is now a great viable market. In Yannis's presence at 595 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: the age of twenty six twenty seven, going into his prime, 596 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: I think is going to ensure that Milwaukee is now 597 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: a destination for players who want to chase a ring 598 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: because they know they can win here. The entire perception 599 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: of the franchise and in some ways the city has changed. 600 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: When did you realize how good, how great Yannis could be? 601 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: Remember a game or a moment, probably in his third season, 602 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: Jason Kidd was the coach and the team really wasn't 603 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: going anywhere. May have been his fourth season, and Kidd 604 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: just tossed the keys to him and said, you play 605 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: point guard for a while. And that's when he started 606 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: having triple doubles. I remember he had a triple double 607 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: the night Kobe Bryant retired, Well there was the year 608 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: he retired. It was his last game in Milwaukee, and 609 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: after that game, Jason Kidd set up a private meeting 610 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: off the Bucks locker room, just Kidd, Jannis, and Kobe 611 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: Bryant and Yannis had had a triple double that night 612 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: the Bucks had won the game, and Kobe Bryant said 613 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: to Yannis, you have the talent to be as good 614 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: as you want to be. Now do you want to 615 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: work for it? And I think that little lightbulbubulb above 616 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: Yannis's head saying, man if Kobe thinks I can do it, 617 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: I can do it now. I think he had that 618 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: work epic within him anyway, But we all knew little motivation, right, 619 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: a jump start, something to kick us. I think that did. 620 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: And from that point on we've seen the Honest grow 621 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: into this full blown battering ram mode that is an 622 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: MVP in the league and an MVP in the finals. 623 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: What was the mood like when the Suns went up 624 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: two oh, I don't think anybody panicked. They knew they 625 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: were coming home. They had played very well at home. 626 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: They had been down O two in the Brooklyn series 627 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: and came back and won the two home games to 628 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: flip the script to make it a two two series, 629 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: and they did it again. This group had some scars 630 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: from the last two seasons, where they were up two 631 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: oh against Toronto in twenty nineteen in the Eastern Conference 632 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: Finals and lost four in a row. Last year, they 633 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: lost focus when they went into the bubble and they 634 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: got bounced out by Matt Miami in a gentleman's sweep. 635 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: They had been the top seed, the best record in 636 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: the NBA, and it wasn't good enough. I think those 637 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,479 Speaker 1: scars were there at the beginning, and there was no 638 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: panic on this team. They knew that they were good 639 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: enough to win, and they just set about doing the 640 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: business of making it happen. And you have to learn 641 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: from your suffering, from your disappointments, and I think this 642 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: team did. When Jannis drafted, he came over and then 643 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: Milwaukee decided I think the GM at the time, John 644 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: Hammond brought his family to Milwaukee to make him more comfortable, 645 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: But before that, Jannis was sending money home during his 646 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: rookie season. He does mention his mom a lot. What 647 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,959 Speaker 1: role has she played? Oh, She's big in his life 648 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: for a lot of reasons. I mean, they were very 649 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: poor in Greece when they immigrated from Nigeria. They couldn't 650 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: get citizenship they were living off the books. His mom 651 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: and his dad worked really hard to make life as 652 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: good as it could be in those circumstances, and he 653 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: remembers that he's very strong on family. He's very loyal 654 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: to them. There's a story that's been told that I 655 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: don't think people really realize how close Janice was to 656 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: not living his NBA dream when he came over in 657 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,919 Speaker 1: his rookie season. It took a long time to get 658 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: the paperwork done to get his parents out of Greece, 659 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: and the Buck's Ownership Senate to Herb Cole at the 660 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: time was working through the State Department to get it done. 661 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: But the Greek government was not cooperating. And you have 662 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: three chances to get your family out, so they tried. 663 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: The first time, Greece said no, they tried the second time, 664 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: Greece said no. Now this is the third time, and 665 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: this went all the way to the top of the 666 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: State Department. I think John Kerry was the Secretary of 667 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: State at the time. And Jannis has said that if 668 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: he had not gotten his family out of Greece at 669 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: that point, he was going to go back and play 670 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: in Europe. He wasn't going to play in the NBA. 671 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: This might have never happened, but they got it done. 672 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: They got his parents over here. Now he's a two 673 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: time MVP. He's going into this Supermax contract next year 674 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: that will change his life. It's generational money and it's 675 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: a great story. Phoenix Suns would like to recheck that 676 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: paperwork of Jannis just just staying there. Ted, But hey, congratulations, 677 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 1: it's not just players who suffer through this. It's certainly 678 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, people like you who are there every single night. 679 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: You got to show up at the building when you're 680 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 1: winning fifteen games, people forget about that. Everybody would love 681 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: to be in the position you had last night. It 682 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: sounded great and congrats, Ted, Well, thank you. I had 683 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: a veteran when I got into the league in my 684 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: first year. He said, you know, we don't we don't 685 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: get paid just to do the good game. So you 686 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: got to do the paddle one. But when you have 687 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: a good one, you want to savor it. Yeah, so 688 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: thank you. But if the Bucks had lost, would you 689 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: have gone with free falling or breakdown by Tom Tom Petty? 690 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 1: Probably free falling, Yeah, that's what it would have felt like. Well, congrats, 691 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: get some sleep, Ted, thank you for joining us. All right, 692 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,240 Speaker 1: thank you, dan By. All Right, that's Ted Davis. Fox 693 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 694 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com 695 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 1: and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to listen live.