Speaker 1: What's up and welcome back to another episode of No
Speaker 1: Sealers Podcast with your hosts Now fuck That with your
Speaker 1: loaw Glasses Malone. The thing about no sellings you listen to,
Speaker 1: I don't really do interview and I always find myself
Speaker 1: just talking to interesting people about the rest and shit
Speaker 1: and something I always looked at that you did that.
Speaker 1: I had an idea and everybody thought I was crazy,
Speaker 1: Like I had wrote a porno, Like I wrote it
Speaker 1: and I wanted to produce and shoot it. Now, I
Speaker 1: didn't want to direct it, but I wanted to produce it,
Speaker 1: but it was raunchy as fuck because it was a
Speaker 1: slave porn. I know myself, street crip right, like no
Speaker 1: for real, and it was like plantation. I was gonna
Speaker 1: shoot on a plantation, slave masters, slaves, you know, just
Speaker 1: all the crazy shit that can gone. And I wrote
Speaker 1: it and it's dope as fuck, but I just never
Speaker 1: could go through with shooting it. Now, I don't know
Speaker 1: if God was just on my ass, like niggas, you
Speaker 1: just I give you all this intellect and this is
Speaker 1: what you're about to do with it. But I just
Speaker 1: thought like I'm one of them type of niggas that
Speaker 1: like when I fuck with shit, I want to just
Speaker 1: make this shit. I want to make an impact. And
Speaker 1: I used to sell sharm like I had I was
Speaker 1: branding my sherm and shit. I had a really interested take,
Speaker 1: even though for real, my older homies to tell you,
Speaker 1: like I I'd be about to hustle and out write down,
Speaker 1: like when I start selling weed, I wrote down all
Speaker 1: them profits. I was looking at the ideas. Okay, these
Speaker 1: niggas is bagging up eight hundred and fifty dollars off
Speaker 1: of a pound of stress. Okay, well look I'm finna
Speaker 1: funk all that. I'll fit a bag up four fifty
Speaker 1: my nickel bags. Finna be crazy fact and almost got
Speaker 1: out hooded to a whole gang. Where was Pj's and
Speaker 1: Morning because I had these cheap ass bag But I
Speaker 1: can't help it. That's how my brain works as a creative,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know how to be in some shit
Speaker 1: and just get by you.
Speaker 2: To push the envelope, stretched the walls a little bit.
Speaker 1: Of oh yeah, oh god. So it's funny, you know
Speaker 1: when you were in with another creative person and you
Speaker 1: know too, like when do you feel like you kind
Speaker 1: of just was like, yeah, I ain't tripping. I've done enough.
Speaker 1: How long ago?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 4: Well, easy Shuneral was music? That was definitely that was
Speaker 4: it the damn that I'm good, just that fast.
Speaker 1: I didn't you think that's twelve years. No, that's twenty five,
Speaker 1: twenty five eighty back then.
Speaker 2: No, he was you saying.
Speaker 5: He's saying how long ago it was record? You're saying
Speaker 5: it was twelve years into his.
Speaker 1: Career, had already been making record. I know for sure.
Speaker 1: I heard I seen surgery.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was I've been in the music game
Speaker 3: way before music. That was just DJ, like one of
Speaker 3: the first DJs graduy.
Speaker 1: So when the first time you DJ had to be?
Speaker 1: I think the first DJ? Actually I did.
Speaker 4: I was a kid my brother's wedding reception and it
Speaker 4: was eight tracks. I wasn't mixing or nothing, but I
Speaker 4: had cute all the songs, so I can just put
Speaker 4: it in the song and put play in. The hit
Speaker 4: of that album was there and I didn't know I
Speaker 4: was DJed. I was just playing some music.
Speaker 1: First time you got a table? Yeah, where's the first
Speaker 1: time you got a table?
Speaker 3: High school?
Speaker 1: So this is you high school? You had to be
Speaker 1: a Yeah you went to conferent Yeah, I wanted to
Speaker 1: go to CONF so bad. My mom was like, no, no,
Speaker 1: you're gonna tear. They ain't got no AP classes in CONF.
Speaker 1: Try to rest in peace, Olivia Man, she was not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she wasn't fucking with nothing that didn't have AP classes.
Speaker 1: I think she knew my mind was already doing a
Speaker 1: lot as a kid. She was trying to keep it
Speaker 1: distracted with all of these different, you know, educational challenges.
Speaker 1: I still found some way to get pushed. So at
Speaker 1: that point, you know what I mean. You making records for sure?
Speaker 1: I know you were a part of making surgery.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well no, well I made a record men clientele
Speaker 3: before surgery.
Speaker 1: It was called No.
Speaker 4: It was the same year, but it was just before surgery.
Speaker 4: It was called slice. And we're just doing it learning.
Speaker 3: Because that we were new to the drum machine, new
Speaker 3: the keyboards.
Speaker 1: All us.
Speaker 3: All this was brand new.
Speaker 4: Wasn't no going on online and listen to somebody something. No,
Speaker 4: it was all trying to figure out how to make
Speaker 4: a machine work.
Speaker 3: You had to read the manual back then. It wasn't
Speaker 3: on your phone and everything is there.
Speaker 1: It was just what was y'all cooking with? Then your
Speaker 1: first joint it was.
Speaker 3: The first one was an mx R. It was just
Speaker 3: learning and it was it was okay.
Speaker 4: But then the first song that I did me and
Speaker 4: Cliente was on the line Draw.
Speaker 1: And I just had Roger Lynn. Yeah, he had his own.
Speaker 4: Sand ain't the same. Then we went to the DMX.
Speaker 4: That's what we use for.
Speaker 3: Most of the music, DMX and ESP twelve and twelve hundred.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. You was already making thirteen records for thirteen years,
Speaker 1: so you probably gonna be done with it. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: nothing pushes your mind to do no crazy shit now,
Speaker 1: like just as a creative because no matter what, even
Speaker 1: when I argue with Doc, when I go see dre
Speaker 1: Right and arguing because he trying to act like you're
Speaker 1: not cool, bro, your mind can't be. He always be like, man,
Speaker 1: you always got some shit going. I'm like, how could you, like,
Speaker 1: how could my mind stop trying to have shit going?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I don't know, Like we
Speaker 1: I feel like all our experience has been so crazy
Speaker 1: that like I want to make a comic book, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't my little bro metro man shit, we do
Speaker 1: marketing shit. I mean, we just constantly learning new shit
Speaker 1: about life and we lie to ourselves like it's about money.
Speaker 1: We be lying tell him all the time, you only
Speaker 1: feel like it's about money, because that's just you train
Speaker 1: to feel that. It's like this pursuit of just doing
Speaker 1: some dope ass ship all the time that drives it.
Speaker 1: And I'm just trying to figure out, like, how do
Speaker 1: you curve that? Because if you was making records in
Speaker 1: eighty two, nigga, you still to even be ahead of
Speaker 1: hip hop at that early yeah, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: I just was working on a joint and it took
Speaker 1: me back through some crazy studies because it was a
Speaker 1: It's based off Plannet rock, so it's the whole metro
Speaker 1: for so I'm studying, doing my homeworks and to only
Speaker 1: realize hip hop was influencing and B. I mean like
Speaker 1: a like planning rock probably is how Midnight start finally
Speaker 1: getting Oh yeah, you know what I mean. Definitely, And
Speaker 1: at the time of R and B was suppressive hip hop.
Speaker 1: So how do you curve that creator? Because I know
Speaker 1: it's still there? How stop you know something?
Speaker 3: I don't think it's there.
Speaker 4: It's just after the funeral and I seen you know,
Speaker 4: I have never seen a minute of a couple of
Speaker 4: funeral I never seen them put the cask in in
Speaker 4: the ground and put.
Speaker 3: The dirt and hammer it down.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I never they just wanted to do that
Speaker 4: for nobody was steal nothing or whatever.
Speaker 3: You know, these weird people. And right then I just
Speaker 3: there was a couple of guys with me. I said,
Speaker 3: that's it. I'm done with music.
Speaker 4: I didn't think about it, didn't analyze it. It was
Speaker 4: just like it's gone.
Speaker 3: It's just like it just flowed out.
Speaker 1: But even the other creative parts, like because you end
Speaker 1: up starting to do some stuff.
Speaker 3: In the movie. I did the movies longer.
Speaker 4: I did them fifteen years, three hundred and fifty movies.
Speaker 4: I mean I filmed everything, edited everything, took all the pictures,
Speaker 4: did all the music.
Speaker 3: I was like a one mand just everything fifteen years straight.
Speaker 3: And it was just I was doing four or five
Speaker 3: movies a month.
Speaker 1: Who the fuck started you? Who fuck made you say
Speaker 1: you could do? Like DJ Yeller? Yeah, that's a ball
Speaker 1: for show, Like how did you?
Speaker 3: My buddy big Man rest in peace?
Speaker 4: He brong the idea first, he brung it to E
Speaker 4: about porn, and he just kind of just did nothing.
Speaker 3: He brong it to me, all.
Speaker 4: Right, let's do it, because see I thought my initial
Speaker 4: thought was, like a producer, like we do music, we
Speaker 4: do a git that's my idea to make movies like records,
Speaker 4: four or five records of months, so it's four or
Speaker 4: five movies.
Speaker 3: He brought it to me.
Speaker 4: I didn't, so I went out and bought the equipment, everything,
Speaker 4: no how to use.
Speaker 3: None of them had to learn it.
Speaker 1: That's fucking cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just it came in.
Speaker 1: Didn't fucks with you? Nothing about nothing. You don't see
Speaker 1: nothing to be like I need to create something in
Speaker 1: this No nothing.
Speaker 3: I'm satisfied with life.
Speaker 5: Right from my opinion, I think, just me seeing it.
Speaker 5: It's like with how everybody treat your generation. Just none
Speaker 5: of your generation you got and stuff. Y'all are like
Speaker 5: so y'all on.
Speaker 2: Mount Olympus, you know what I mean. It's like Poseidon
Speaker 2: don't need nothing.
Speaker 3: In two weeks were getting a Grammy lifetime for war.
Speaker 3: It's just okay, that's cool. You know, It's just I'm
Speaker 3: just satisfying with life.
Speaker 1: What's the last thing, here's something, what's the last thing
Speaker 1: that pumped you up? She was like, man, I kind
Speaker 1: of think I want to do fuck however we create
Speaker 1: minus anything. I don't give if you woke up and
Speaker 1: wanted to draw a picture when the last time you
Speaker 1: felt like creatively you needed to express.
Speaker 3: That sense.
Speaker 4: I can't remember since movies was that was it? So
Speaker 4: DJ and I ended up movies the same way I
Speaker 4: did music. Okay, I'm done, it's over.
Speaker 1: So do you think DJ? And that's even when you
Speaker 1: have to DJ at this point and create those daily
Speaker 1: mixes when you have to kind of like not daily mixes,
Speaker 1: but when you go to because you always get booked. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: right when you mix, is that kind of like kind
Speaker 1: of the same thing where you're creating a flow.
Speaker 4: I'm having fun DJAN like in the old days when
Speaker 4: we was first me Andre was first DJ.
Speaker 3: That's the fun I'm having. It's because it's not I
Speaker 3: gotta creative, I got no.
Speaker 4: I just it's a dip'mos a different atmosphere because like
Speaker 4: next week I go to Australia, I'm always out the
Speaker 4: country and they still love hip hop like the old days,
Speaker 4: the eighties and the nineties, they still got it.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's because they behind times or whatever,
Speaker 3: but they still like the old school and that's all
Speaker 3: I play is old school.
Speaker 1: I'm playing nothing new everybody.
Speaker 3: It's something about that. It's it's got real soul in
Speaker 3: that MU and means something and in DJ in is
Speaker 3: the same way. And I just a few years ago
Speaker 3: it came to me DJ.
Speaker 4: I never wanted the DJ ever again, and it just
Speaker 4: came to me. I'm like that then on use turntables and.
Speaker 1: Like I said, crazy, but then you got.
Speaker 4: I jumped in and like, okay, but see I jumped
Speaker 4: into different from everybody.
Speaker 3: Everybody else just carry their needles, headphone. No, I'm bringing
Speaker 3: my unit. I wanted to be the same.
Speaker 4: Every night, the same equipments, my same microphone.
Speaker 3: I think of it just like music. I'm doing it all.
Speaker 1: So that so maybe it is DJ.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I had a dope conversation with Lonzo about DJ. I
Speaker 1: was talking to him about I was writing kind of
Speaker 1: these like again, I'm one of those type of creators
Speaker 1: where like I'll be focused on one idea, like oh g,
Speaker 1: he's talking about where I'll make an album, but behind
Speaker 1: I'm writing so like I started writing kind of this
Speaker 1: hip hop story of the West Coast pre n W
Speaker 1: as all of us grew up like me, him, you know,
Speaker 1: he's younger than me. For our lives. N w A
Speaker 1: starts hip hop on the West coast, but now you're
Speaker 1: starting to learn about Uncle Jam's arms, trying to learn
Speaker 1: about you know, world class record cler and then you
Speaker 1: kind of get into the clubs. Yeah, I never knew
Speaker 1: niggas went to our pine village because when I got
Speaker 1: a car, niggas does not take your jail people over there,
Speaker 1: that white folks, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 1: was talking to Lonzo about that our pine village stuff,
Speaker 1: and so I started writing. But I was just starting
Speaker 1: to really notice how like y'all are the first that
Speaker 1: took to hip hop DJ and I just thought that
Speaker 1: was dope. So now that for you to come back
Speaker 1: and love it as dope, I think we love it too.
Speaker 1: I think we even love it here. Still, I think
Speaker 1: we don't have the opportunity. I think I didn't travel,
Speaker 1: not like nearly as much as you, but I didn't
Speaker 1: travel a lot. I think Americas set to victim of
Speaker 1: what's the word convenience. So whatever's current, whatever's easy, But
Speaker 1: you can't tell me that if you don't put yellow
Speaker 1: or battle Cat in some place at some bar dja sect.
Speaker 1: We don't show up, especially if it's right there. But
Speaker 1: I think the promoters are just lazy. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: what's the next hot thing?
Speaker 3: Yeah they're not. I mean they can call themselves promoters,
Speaker 3: but it's a totally it's.
Speaker 1: Just fly they make on their phone or what it's
Speaker 1: make it on their phone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's different.
Speaker 4: You know, all Facebook, and that don't mean nothing.
Speaker 3: I got two hundred and seventy thousand people on Instagram, okay,
Speaker 3: but none of them live here.
Speaker 4: So I ain't dependent on filling this place up with
Speaker 4: the fan because.
Speaker 1: They from all over the world.
Speaker 2: I mean I can change that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's a great conversation y'all. Y'all love because
Speaker 1: he will tap your ship in. But again, this is
Speaker 1: one of those type of things that we just I
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't know like and again I don't
Speaker 1: know what n W A success feels. This is different.
Speaker 1: I mean, you start fucking the world up, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe you fuck up the world, you get tired. But
Speaker 1: it's so hard to imagine be not creating, like maybe
Speaker 1: not records. I could see that day. Even then, it's
Speaker 1: hard because I'm just starting to like I didn't, and
Speaker 1: I was hustling the whole time. So when hip hop
Speaker 1: saved my life, it was really fun. You still hustling, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's well now now I'm not hustling at all. Now
Speaker 1: I'm just in love with you. Yeah, I'm still hustling.
Speaker 1: It's still yeah, but you're starting to find ways to.
Speaker 1: What I'm starting to find ways is like I gave
Speaker 1: you this vinyls, I don't got to be there to
Speaker 1: get the money today. Like I'm looking at my phone.
Speaker 1: So my homeboy outside of me and what I do
Speaker 1: and do my I go do my promotion and then
Speaker 1: my hoom waiting strongly where people can order music directly
Speaker 1: from me, and I sell my autographic album, my autographs.
Speaker 1: I probably do four or five a day. So I'm
Speaker 1: not there and that is a cool way to because
Speaker 1: it don't feel like hustling.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the same, but it's just a cool new level.
Speaker 1: But I just couldn't imagine not creating, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like like I said, I was writing something,
Speaker 1: I was writing the album that I that I just
Speaker 1: gave you. The behind the scenes, I'm writing hip hop
Speaker 1: on the West Coast from seventy eighth yeah, just starting
Speaker 1: with Roger and Lonzo, how he told me the story,
Speaker 1: how they worked at Alpine Village together, and then how
Speaker 1: they start going different, they find a different DJ.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when they became different. And then that's when I
Speaker 4: came right in. I mean because when I came in,
Speaker 4: Dre was not even a thought. It was two three
Speaker 4: years down the line before even even around. So I
Speaker 4: did all the leg work, hanging posters, snatching posters.
Speaker 1: Back then, you know, it was like this crewe us
Speaker 1: we enemies. I mean, like Uncle Johnson, We're still in me.
Speaker 1: So listen, it's funny. So my man Super six Edwin,
Speaker 1: who actually used to finance a lot of the Uncle
Speaker 1: Jam's armies Dragon Race that when drag race with my dad.
Speaker 1: Since I was a little kid, all those Super six
Speaker 1: that's what we called him. I didn't know he was
Speaker 1: involved in nothing hip hop related when it is like
Speaker 1: this esteemed kind of grown when he talked to us.
Speaker 3: He's super cool. I haven't seen him since them day.
Speaker 1: He had a crazy stroke. I'm praying, like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He used when I realized that he
Speaker 1: was a part of it, and none of them will
Speaker 1: admit that it had to be a competition level. So
Speaker 1: the only people to ever admit it was you and Line.
Speaker 1: But I wrote the story ironically like these two competing
Speaker 1: parties crew, because that's what hip hop really is. No,
Speaker 1: it's a party.
Speaker 3: My first time going out snatching posters. We call it
Speaker 3: the rip. You don't take the whole poster. You just
Speaker 3: ripped the date in the time and the play.
Speaker 4: So are you seeing Uncle John Army? Nothing on the bottom?
Speaker 4: So I'm on Century in.
Speaker 3: Western It's a lot of poles on there. I'm ripping them.
Speaker 3: Rogers show up, but I'm went my guy, he's seven
Speaker 3: to sure. We're both from Compton. We don't know nothing
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, okay Central And I got a five pounds
Speaker 4: staple gun in my hand and he come up.
Speaker 3: You know, they come up on us, like what you're doing.
Speaker 1: I'm snatching these posters? That was my poster.
Speaker 3: Okay, what you know? We like what you gonna do?
Speaker 3: You don't know we're from Compton. You don't want to
Speaker 3: mess with it. And that was the first time I
Speaker 3: ever met him. Right there, they just say nothing else.
Speaker 3: But we kept on putting our posters on top of
Speaker 3: their posters, right in the face.
Speaker 1: I was crazy. So what was the competing venues at
Speaker 1: that point?
Speaker 4: It was, well, we had the club even after dark,
Speaker 4: we had a steady play. They would do veterans different places,
Speaker 4: the sports arena. It was just But then there was
Speaker 4: another crew called the Virgin Productions. We they hung their
Speaker 4: posters on ours.
Speaker 1: Who the fuck is.
Speaker 3: That they was?
Speaker 4: I think their career was over after this one night
Speaker 4: because the Wrecking Crew we all went to they danced before,
Speaker 4: you know, early.
Speaker 3: We mopped them up.
Speaker 1: Really this class as mobbing motherfucker.
Speaker 3: It was Linzo, me, Unknown DJ. It was like a
Speaker 3: whole from that neighborhood. It was a bunch of us.
Speaker 1: So Unknown was with so Unknown in the fucker with
Speaker 1: Uncle jam evinced No.
Speaker 4: No, well that was after the Reckon, after even after
Speaker 4: dark ended and then we started doing music.
Speaker 1: That's how I ended up doing that. But see that's
Speaker 1: Unknown was there before me and the recond crew. I
Speaker 1: never knew that. Wow. But I always tell Drake, I'm
Speaker 1: telling you. I tell cue, y'all do a horrible job
Speaker 1: of telling Like why if you read my book, you know,
Speaker 1: and that's what I had to do. Even if you
Speaker 1: had a book, you know what I'm saying, but yeah,
Speaker 1: we gotta know this ship because this is the funniest
Speaker 1: ship about it. Like I always share with the hummies
Speaker 1: because like it's a party. These niggas was all party
Speaker 1: because somewhere when we came up in the game, we
Speaker 1: were just all gaming. And don't get me wrong, we
Speaker 1: did go to party. You go funching and other people commuting,
Speaker 1: but you didn't realize that's what it pop was about.
Speaker 1: So we looked at n w A as if it
Speaker 1: wasn't fun, you know what I mean, because it was.
Speaker 1: The music was very active. Even the World Class Record
Speaker 1: Cup was all fun ship. But somewhere along the line
Speaker 1: it got away from that concept of this all is
Speaker 1: the descendantive party.
Speaker 3: Because there was no money. Early days of n w
Speaker 3: A breaking there was no money.
Speaker 1: Girls.
Speaker 3: That was my pa. If you game, you.
Speaker 1: Up in here, you know you come up in here,
Speaker 1: I finla get you. Ain't got to pay filming. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm the man.
Speaker 4: So he had a different drip. I can't speak for them.
Speaker 4: I had a different drive. It was about the girl.
Speaker 4: It was about nothing else.
Speaker 3: Wasn't about the.
Speaker 4: Money, And my whole career had never been about money.
Speaker 1: It can't be though I don't care about me, it
Speaker 1: can't be it's nothing. I tell him that all the time,
Speaker 1: and he think got crazy. I'm like, when you that's
Speaker 1: not what the music.
Speaker 2: They don't get.
Speaker 3: Music for money though you know that.
Speaker 1: No, no, but no, not like that. I mean, none
Speaker 1: of it can be about money, because if it's about money,
Speaker 1: I really genuine believe you sell it short like you
Speaker 1: have to kind of be in trend, like in like
Speaker 1: entrenched and just fucking fucking ship up. Just if you're
Speaker 1: gonna promote you got the best party on the box.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna make record, your record, go jam the hardest.
Speaker 1: This is kind of the people to me who really
Speaker 1: get paid. This is what they're thinking. They cannot be
Speaker 1: thinking of how to make money because you will take
Speaker 1: too many shortcuts.
Speaker 4: Well now, I think nowadays it's about the money because
Speaker 4: it's overnight. You know your success overnight, do something on
Speaker 4: TikTok or whatever you're hit.
Speaker 3: You know, no effort, no skill.
Speaker 2: Quick too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can get the.
Speaker 1: Barriers of entry, you know what I mean. Like even
Speaker 1: when I first came, like my engineer Guido, you remind
Speaker 1: me of Guido Jailly, But that nigga slammed the door
Speaker 1: on my face, like you gotta get tired. Like, remember,
Speaker 1: everybody didn't have a studio. This is oh yeah, three four.
Speaker 1: Everybody didn't have no fun.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, more people.
Speaker 1: Had it than fucking nineteen ninety, but everybody didn't have it.
Speaker 1: So we're recording on that. That means you got to
Speaker 1: pay the Oh yeah, all this crazy shit and somebody
Speaker 1: really got to know how to work just.
Speaker 4: In the box, oh I mean, and especially in our days,
Speaker 4: that's why we learned everything, mixing.
Speaker 1: Court everything from scratch. You didn't know, ye, so yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. I was thinking about that. But so unknown
Speaker 1: DJ was who originally was in the World Cup Alonso.
Speaker 1: When you first get unknown, and then the other people
Speaker 1: that were just was in DJs.
Speaker 4: Doctor Rock that was one of the first djsc Rock.
Speaker 3: He was a wreaking crew. He was the main DJ there.
Speaker 3: He from right around the corner from the Eve. Yeah,
Speaker 3: doctor ro doctor Drake.
Speaker 4: Can't where his name come from, but yeah, Rock was there,
Speaker 4: and it's so funny. He was the hottest. He was
Speaker 4: the hottest DJ when I got it. When I got there,
Speaker 4: he was only there one week. The next week he vanished.
Speaker 5: Hold on Nose is the bar that you say, like
Speaker 5: how there was a dude named doctor Rock and then
Speaker 5: Drake coming in behind and like I'm just like him. No, no, no,
Speaker 5: I'm not saying like that, but that is what happens, right,
Speaker 5: and then that person becomes even bigger.
Speaker 2: Than I know, Doctor Rock, Like, hold on, doctor, I'm
Speaker 2: the doctor. Like everybody again, it's the Doctor car.
Speaker 5: I know that has to be kind of irritated to
Speaker 5: a certaery, but you get at that's part of the
Speaker 5: game too, where.
Speaker 2: You got to be like, man, I gave Dre his name.
Speaker 2: He was looking up to me. You might, yeah, not
Speaker 2: know that.
Speaker 3: But they even thought of it was a couple of years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, in two three years, I get it,
Speaker 2: Like that's you just said that. I didn't want to
Speaker 2: just breeze over that to you.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not doctor Rock.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The doctor went.
Speaker 4: He had to leave town because some guys or something
Speaker 4: he let him use their card whatever that, and they
Speaker 4: something happened.
Speaker 3: He had to leave. He went to Texas.
Speaker 1: They got a regular job.
Speaker 3: He went. He was a DJ in Texas.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Ship damn. So that was the first class you
Speaker 1: was taking down the rips hoster. Yeah, so did you
Speaker 1: ever did you ever sit down? Did you ever talk
Speaker 1: to Roger? No? Never, you ever?
Speaker 3: Never?
Speaker 4: And I was I was DJing, so me and Lonzo
Speaker 4: up like when they first did the Sports Arena, we
Speaker 4: get up there early and just check it out and
Speaker 4: that was it. We go back to the club. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean that was they was the enemy. Anybody besides us.
Speaker 1: Was the enemy. How does Lee or play to this?
Speaker 1: Was he anything of a promoter at that time? The
Speaker 1: white man lear Cohen, I know they said he was
Speaker 1: a promoter, but I don't think. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he was a fact he's from LA. The dude that
Speaker 1: was running death jamets over YouTube.
Speaker 3: Music, I don't know not. I never heard him a
Speaker 3: promoter from.
Speaker 5: I didn't know lys from LA mostly on New York
Speaker 5: though he is a you don't know a lot of
Speaker 5: was he deaf jam no leor.
Speaker 1: Is originally a dude from LA. Like he's been out
Speaker 1: here with the college out here. He was promoting on
Speaker 1: the same Really, I'm telling you, man, I'm been getting
Speaker 1: the game Linzo in school. He's like, yeah, that dude,
Speaker 1: and different people say, man, I know him from people
Speaker 1: listening he and he like explained by the boundly lyric
Speaker 1: Corran Cohen, like who are responsible for? So everybody that
Speaker 1: signed a death Jam post nineteen eighty four and he
Speaker 1: signed them. All these people signed the YouTube he started
Speaker 1: three hundred. He's like one of the most powerful people
Speaker 1: in the music business right now. He's over YouTube. He's
Speaker 1: like brilliant man. But he's from a U. I think
Speaker 1: he's a Jewish man that that uh for most parties. No,
Speaker 1: he's not from here, but he's from so where else.
Speaker 1: But he cut his bones right in that leant And
Speaker 1: around the same time Russ came and got uh the Posse,
Speaker 1: Arrol and all of them from shout out to l
Speaker 1: A Posse, Darryl, bobcat uh Pool buffing them. He met Lear.
Speaker 1: It became kind of like over management for Death Jim
Speaker 1: over rush, so Leo started signing all of this stuff.
Speaker 1: So that was a part of the whole Again, l
Speaker 1: A don't really excuse me. The West Coast of general
Speaker 1: don't get a lot of credit hip hop. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we was important even to Death Jim because you know,
Speaker 1: before that you had to to me, it seemed like
Speaker 1: you had to have like Hella, like weird acts like
Speaker 1: Beastie boys like you have a punk rock group that.
Speaker 3: Makes they had to get on the radio. We had
Speaker 3: no radio play.
Speaker 2: So that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I went gold and platinum with no.
Speaker 3: None, zero people, just exactly no video play for MTV bandits.
Speaker 1: Ye man, I didn't realize that band Rick James, They're
Speaker 1: really with a good company.
Speaker 2: I mean at the time that sounds like a bad thing,
Speaker 2: like they banned.
Speaker 1: But I was the only way you can see video.
Speaker 2: Of YouTube and Instagram was like we bandoned Metro. I
Speaker 2: would love it.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh yeah, but that's what like we
Speaker 1: got marketing. Yeah, Like like so what they do is
Speaker 1: like I go through a lot of that stuff now
Speaker 1: because my music is so like culturally salty that they
Speaker 1: kind of shadow banded and they won't ban you because
Speaker 1: they like, oh it's talent, but you can't market it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm me saying, cancel these nuts everywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm just talking crazy.
Speaker 2: I'm just talking yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean for me, it's I mean, but it's real.
Speaker 1: Nobody won't real, nobody won't with people really, So when
Speaker 1: you I just you know, I'll never forget I made
Speaker 1: two pok months. To me, it's brilliant, right, it's crazy, right,
Speaker 1: shout out to niggas on the Mike. Niggas actually the
Speaker 1: one of the programmers, one of the most important programmers
Speaker 1: on the West Coast right here. I heeart you feel
Speaker 1: me Kggi al Nai. So when I said two pok
Speaker 1: months do here because it was like a thing, right.
Speaker 1: But to me making that song, I was just thinking
Speaker 1: what hip hop was. Right. This is me after meeting
Speaker 1: Eric Be. This is after meeting herk. This is after
Speaker 1: sitting down all the knowledge finding coming together, and I
Speaker 1: could make sense out of hippo as his street urban
Speaker 1: kind of experience. And we've giving people an entry into
Speaker 1: a life they didn't even believe it exists. So I'm
Speaker 1: circuling myself back to eighty two, right, So we make
Speaker 1: that good by ourselves. That was my first gold record
Speaker 1: and we made it ourselves. It was no label. This
Speaker 1: is just me understanding the party. So it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna getting a parties a nigga who don't even
Speaker 1: like the party. Now, I'm gonna make me a party
Speaker 1: song now. Competing not got me one. Right Now, I'm
Speaker 1: figuring out hip hop, got records, and I'm getting marketing.
Speaker 1: I'm like damn so hip hop. Conna is like this
Speaker 1: take into this world that they never People didn't believe
Speaker 1: Compton was real. Like all the shit that y'all was
Speaker 1: talking about niggas, it was like, ben g, it ain't
Speaker 1: really like, yeah it is. That's I mean, it's fun,
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's pretty much attitude. Everybody talk like that, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like they didn't like I
Speaker 1: had a conversation with doctor. He's like, man, I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I feel like we influence so much bullshit. No, y'all
Speaker 1: just was saying the shit niggas was saying. I can
Speaker 1: see if you came up with some of this shit,
Speaker 1: but you ain't the first one to said nigga calling
Speaker 1: woman the bitch. This was normal. I heard all these
Speaker 1: niggas talking like this, grading them just how they talk.
Speaker 1: So as I'm kind of making my own journey in
Speaker 1: modern times through you know, basic hip hop, it was like,
Speaker 1: what does fuck the police sound like today? Like for
Speaker 1: the police today, don't sound like that. They play that
Speaker 1: ship on CNN. White man be like this fuck the police.
Speaker 1: When them niggas made that shit, I was a kid.
Speaker 1: I remember black churches being mad as fuck and mother, get.
Speaker 2: People killed the police.
Speaker 5: Today is Poundtown, my pussy pink, my boody old brown and.
Speaker 2: Sexy red type ship. It's with a shock factor to
Speaker 2: a degree.
Speaker 1: It's different people up only because it just wasn't like
Speaker 1: that song. I ain't even I don't even know why
Speaker 1: people make it all them things are accurate. Who cares her?
Speaker 1: They're just making a big deal out of something that's
Speaker 1: really late. It wasn't really like a prolific stand right,
Speaker 1: So but the audacity, like we talked about tell people
Speaker 1: your pussy pink, everybody had no you got a good
Speaker 1: point though, So but so I'm working on it, right
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what does this sound like? So now
Speaker 1: I'm and this is crazy? How chronicle my career round?
Speaker 1: I'm like, I got my party song? So I'm right
Speaker 1: here at the world class rentre. Now how do I
Speaker 1: get to straight out of comptent? What is that sound
Speaker 1: like today? What's the stands? Culturally? I mean that people
Speaker 1: don't know where can I invite them to that? They
Speaker 1: never thought this is how niggas like where I'm from think.
Speaker 1: So I started, I swear to god, it was just deep. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I started looking up the word culture fashion, location, religion,
Speaker 1: and one of the words was morality. Swear to God,
Speaker 1: it was like, morality, that's a part of culture, things
Speaker 1: that you know, certain places think is right and wrong.
Speaker 1: So I'm looking I'm like, damn, morality. I ain't never
Speaker 1: heard n w A. They made a song about attitude,
Speaker 1: but morality is I can go deeper, you know what
Speaker 1: i mean. Mind you, these motherfucker's been putting on for
Speaker 1: the cult of forty years. So everybody know us. Everybody
Speaker 1: know everything about our culture, every street urban culture, they
Speaker 1: know everything. Them niggas argue with me about gaming, I
Speaker 1: argue with me. I'll be like, bro, yes, it's really
Speaker 1: just you and your friend.
Speaker 3: No, it's more.
Speaker 1: There has to be more. You you have to follow
Speaker 1: a rule in this bylog you have to sign. It's
Speaker 1: not like that your friends, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's really you and the guys you grew up with it.
Speaker 1: Sometimes shit happened and you got to handle it right
Speaker 1: there exactly. But I'm working on it. I'm looking at morality.
Speaker 1: I'm studying it, and I'm like, damn, So, what's a
Speaker 1: moral stands that we all have right here that nobody
Speaker 1: else had? And I came up with two different ideas
Speaker 1: because I realized from a market at that point, it
Speaker 1: had to be a story everybody knew, they just didn't
Speaker 1: know our side of the story. So I came up
Speaker 1: with two ideas. Remember it was both no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that was that was one for the TV show I was.
Speaker 1: I wrote this dumb TV show two sides. The one
Speaker 1: about the the LA riots. Yeah, when we talked about
Speaker 1: how the dudes may started the I had that idea
Speaker 1: and I kind of a nagodye idea call any white
Speaker 1: man a dude or Tupac must die, right, which was
Speaker 1: kind of this story about how if you jump somebody
Speaker 1: where we're from, we all know you might get shot,
Speaker 1: can't nobody? Yeah you guys heard it. Yeah, Yeah, it's crazy,
Speaker 1: but the visual sure all the time. Yeah, they think
Speaker 1: of it. And to me, it was like Shakespeare and
Speaker 1: and part of the title is so disrespectful, and I'm
Speaker 1: like disrespectful, Like, trust me, if you jump a nigga
Speaker 1: from where we're from, they not gonna say you must die.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna come out that way.
Speaker 5: And that and that's the part of the title too.
Speaker 5: Came on like me with him talking so much about
Speaker 5: marketing and stuff me telling them like, yo, people buy
Speaker 5: into two things, like movies and movements.
Speaker 2: So if you ever, like in the Red had a
Speaker 2: movement another thing.
Speaker 5: I was like, we don't have a big movement, but
Speaker 5: you are one of the best storytellers ever liked. So
Speaker 5: I'm like, it needs to be like a movie. And
Speaker 5: then you think of Romeo Must Die, John Tucker Must Die.
Speaker 5: Those are movies. So it was just a playoff of that.
Speaker 5: So we just took everybody to the movies over the weekend.
Speaker 5: So it just like how he reacted to it, Like
Speaker 5: everybody was like, but this is crazy, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. It ain't something you keep revisiting over and over,
Speaker 5: but you remember if you've seen it. It's like I
Speaker 5: seen nothing like you know what I mean? And yeah,
Speaker 5: that was a lot of things. And people just.
Speaker 1: Noss because you're saying must I'm like, bro, that's not tough.
Speaker 1: That is if I'd be like, fuck, I hate Tupac,
Speaker 1: that's what we would say. But it's you know, Shakespearean
Speaker 1: to say it's poetic this person must die. But long
Speaker 1: story short, as I started to figure out the idea
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, I know how we all know
Speaker 1: how we go, so I just need to explain how
Speaker 1: it goes. But that kind of became me getting into
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight. It's like, let me write this kind
Speaker 1: of this cultural take about something that everybody knew about
Speaker 1: and then to me when we first was doing it,
Speaker 1: you know, metro Co producing a joint and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: this is cool, And even making the video, it was
Speaker 1: so second nature because this is like something that I
Speaker 1: went through and got jumped by niggas and I'm bust
Speaker 1: on the niggas help me. Ye could have gave me
Speaker 1: your head up. Niggay'all know me. But watching like y'all
Speaker 1: have like this hella crazy blueprint your whole generation. And
Speaker 1: I don't just mean I'm talking about the first day
Speaker 1: you got a fucking turntable. It's a hell of DNA
Speaker 1: right there that we don't really focus and I'm glad
Speaker 1: I learned it. So even sitting down talking with you,
Speaker 1: you know, I never thought I was gonna come ask
Speaker 1: Yellow about it. Nigga. I know your life, Nigga, they
Speaker 1: made a movie. I know niggas that know you told
Speaker 1: me you was early in DJ yell. You know, I knew.
Speaker 1: I know niggas that know you, so I know the
Speaker 1: story of it, but it just to really political somebody
Speaker 1: who has the experience of where it like, I finally
Speaker 1: fell in love with hip hop. Now I'll get to
Speaker 1: talk to somebody that saw it start, not nineteen eighty seven,
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine, you know what I'm saying. Coolio
Speaker 1: was telling me he was right. We got wrapping at
Speaker 1: seventy nine rest.
Speaker 4: So Kolio used to come when I djated.
Speaker 3: Coolio used to come down and down to Eve.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, because I think it right, that's in the happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So a nigga from on the Park going
Speaker 1: to the Athens. I guess it probably wasn't that bad.
Speaker 4: Damn the Colors to a totally different neighborhood than that.
Speaker 1: Sure, I lot of pocket there, but I had to
Speaker 1: pass so I couldn't imagine how Coolio was going through
Speaker 1: the Athene.
Speaker 6: That's crazy. But you know what Glasses did. Did Lonzo
Speaker 6: ever tell you who kind of kept it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I mean for the gags, wouldn't be tripping a cat Dan.
Speaker 6: He's from the West Side named yellow Ice.
Speaker 1: No tell me about him?
Speaker 6: Well, Loonzo told me, and I heard it from Yellow
Speaker 6: Hece his real name is Keith duncan uh Lonzo because
Speaker 6: I even asked him.
Speaker 1: I said, man, he's like, yeah, well.
Speaker 6: Keith kept everything, you know, peaceful. Yeah, I mean because
Speaker 6: he he knew a lot of people from both sets. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I mean from both I mean multiple hoods, not this
Speaker 6: but and uh but yeah he was he Lonzo said,
Speaker 6: He's the one kind of kept the peace where he
Speaker 6: didn't have no no gang violence going on up there
Speaker 6: at the eve after dark.
Speaker 1: West Side has always been really influential, even before it
Speaker 1: was like extra gay, Like I remember when you really
Speaker 1: start hearing about them in a violent ways told with
Speaker 1: the nuning, but previously that day were really influential. Get
Speaker 1: some money and they were meant something and the gras
Speaker 1: scheme of what was happening, right, that's dope to hear that.
Speaker 1: That's that's crazy because I think about that all the time.
Speaker 1: And I was just looking at that super Bowl performance. Man,
Speaker 1: so that was cool. I like when they give hints
Speaker 1: and where all this started at.
Speaker 6: Yeah, what'd you think about that when you've seen that
Speaker 6: on the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: I thought that was a player. I thought it was important.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm I'm always on dreading them. Like even
Speaker 1: Dre was cussing up, cussing us out about two Pole.
Speaker 1: He was cussing me and met about damn it classes
Speaker 1: he's got some ship going on. Yeah, him cuts me
Speaker 1: out just made me smile. Yeah, he knew I was
Speaker 1: just getting off because it was like, this is just
Speaker 1: hip hop. I'm not It's not a stance. It's saying
Speaker 1: I didn't say funck nobody. This is just me being
Speaker 1: dope and people being sold. And like I said, intrigued
Speaker 1: with how he grew up, you know, I mean, well,
Speaker 1: once he figured it out, it made sense, and then
Speaker 1: everybody else told him. I think I don't think he
Speaker 1: actually looked at him or DJ Quick Quick cuss me out.
Speaker 1: Man Quick did a concert somewhere and he was on
Speaker 1: stage going off the fuck glasses pump motherfucker talking ship
Speaker 1: about Tupac and I'm just looking at the ship, laughing
Speaker 1: in the video like look at this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me and g was kind of nudging each other
Speaker 2: like look this like this.
Speaker 3: It was amazing.
Speaker 5: Like a lot of people thought it was like a reach,
Speaker 5: like a hell marry, and it's like no, we actually
Speaker 5: curated and concoct to something on purpose, like we can
Speaker 5: continually do this. It was just a and to see
Speaker 5: how many people froze up for two three weeks and
Speaker 5: everybody was yeah, it was like corrupt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think the initial.
Speaker 5: Gangster rihism of the nerve heard it as got that
Speaker 5: talk always the audacity.
Speaker 1: I ain't got nothing else two dollars, but he got
Speaker 1: some audacity. But now it was like when they all
Speaker 1: saw they was like I get it, even oh man,
Speaker 1: I get it. That ship is though, but I get it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? It was you know, I
Speaker 1: could imagine like I asked him when they put off
Speaker 1: the police and how crazy it was, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: but now you look at that song. That is not
Speaker 1: how it was. That is not how that ship is.
Speaker 1: Now that ship is the theme of the world seeing
Speaker 1: then and don limit up there the police not how
Speaker 1: it was. It was fucked up.
Speaker 6: I think when I think when that came out, the
Speaker 6: world was upset at them for putting that out, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean, It was like.
Speaker 1: Here you say that like you like you yeah, you're
Speaker 1: talking about the hero talking about the you got the
Speaker 1: song right now.
Speaker 7: We just had the balls to say it saying it.
Speaker 3: You know in our days, you didn't say it to
Speaker 3: a cop. Yeah, all the COPI.
Speaker 1: I swear to God, I'll be hooking. I'll be like,
Speaker 1: he should fuck you up. I'm telling nobody else, I
Speaker 1: said on the podcast, some of y'all deserve to get
Speaker 1: y'all ass well, you shouldn't be talking to know he.
Speaker 3: Be a god fuck you motherfucker. Ain't live.
Speaker 1: Don't get fucked up a song, nigga, my homeboy, my
Speaker 1: boy Jesse. Shout out to Jesse, my boy Jesse. Who
Speaker 1: you know. We came up street racing together. He got
Speaker 1: a police hot so he's like a traffic car and
Speaker 1: he'd be pulling people like watch this. Sometimes he'd be
Speaker 1: on the phone with me and let me hearing our
Speaker 1: people talking, they'll be doing. He'll be like this, motherfucker
Speaker 1: been on the phone for ten minutes. I'm just following.
Speaker 1: You don't even see, I said, he said. Watch I
Speaker 1: pulled him up. Watch how they talked to me. Talk
Speaker 1: to me crazy, pull him over. He's like, well, you
Speaker 1: know you've been on your phone. No, No, I just
Speaker 1: was I was looking at the map. I've been sitting
Speaker 1: next to you. No, you just making shu up. See
Speaker 1: that's the fucking problem with the POE and they just
Speaker 1: start going bad. And Jesse from the Jump, Oh wow.
Speaker 1: So he like, fuck y'all motherfuckers. You motherfuckers think y'all
Speaker 1: too good. He like nigga I'm from the Jungles. He
Speaker 1: was like, Zee, this motherfucker from Crito's talking shit to me.
Speaker 1: So I don't. I'm not like even when I talked
Speaker 1: to Docum member. I don't blame hip hop for this.
Speaker 1: I think hip hop definitely give you some nuts. Now
Speaker 1: how you use your nuts different, I don't give a
Speaker 1: fuck how many n w A stigns come. I ain't
Speaker 1: never said that to the police, You lying man. I
Speaker 1: just said some ship to all kinds of human beings.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna talk to no nigga that can legally
Speaker 1: kill me. Always figured out as a young nigga fighting
Speaker 1: the court, I'm the fuck with. Nobody had to tell
Speaker 1: me that. Something about talking to crazy to a motherfucker
Speaker 1: with a gun just never made got a budge.
Speaker 2: Like when I was in tu one of the cops
Speaker 2: sidebar real quick.
Speaker 5: Just on the police and the leverage they have, they
Speaker 5: said they will have undercover police they'll know drug dealers
Speaker 5: is selling drugs on the corner.
Speaker 2: That'll go up literally shoot the dude to.
Speaker 5: Shoot him in the head and then drop a knife
Speaker 5: next to him, be like he attacked me, and write
Speaker 5: a re police report that he attacked him and they
Speaker 5: have to shoot him. And I'm like, that's how they
Speaker 5: get really drug dealers in Trinidad. I'm like, that's crazy,
Speaker 5: Like if they was doing that out here.
Speaker 1: Like like like damn, don't.
Speaker 2: Be like drop a knife next to you. He attacking.
Speaker 1: I guess as a as a as a as a
Speaker 1: game member, and as a D boy, you know, for
Speaker 1: whatever being the game ever means. But as a D boy,
Speaker 1: for sure I understood their conflicts. You you have a
Speaker 1: necessary purpose in the community. My job is to not
Speaker 1: get caught your job. That didn't make me hate you,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I don't hate the defensive end.
Speaker 1: If I'm the quarterback of the team, I get it.
Speaker 1: This is our job. Some people man like I said,
Speaker 1: the army doing ship and maybe fuck you motherfuck up. Bro,
Speaker 1: you've been on your phone ten minutes. One time, one
Speaker 1: of them pulled over Jail, feeling you Jail didn't have
Speaker 1: no motherfucker drivers like he like, he called me, he
Speaker 1: was like, gee, what's up. I'm like, what's that? He's like, man,
Speaker 1: you fuck with jail felling. I'm like, yeah, nigga love
Speaker 1: jail feeling. He's like, all right for you. That nigga
Speaker 1: gonna be able to keep his car. Wow, where a
Speaker 1: god got to jail jail? It's going to good? Look
Speaker 1: it out, like, nigga, that is weird. You know how
Speaker 1: that happened to stell Son too?
Speaker 3: Oh wow?
Speaker 1: Chris Steel asked. Chris playing professional football, he got put
Speaker 1: over by the home you know, called me like, hey,
Speaker 1: is this nigga really your nephew? That's my nap Lucky
Speaker 1: you nigga, I know your uncle. Nigga. Wow, nigga crazy.
Speaker 1: So I always believe in having paid police friends. You
Speaker 1: ain't lying, you know what I get in w A's plight.
Speaker 1: But I'm always like, no, I'm not gonna We'll be
Speaker 1: on my own side. But I ain't even said fuck y'all.
Speaker 1: I did a song with a D You gonna look
Speaker 1: it up. It's a song with a D and uh
Speaker 1: one of my other homeboys, and it's a fuck the
Speaker 1: police officer. My whole verse is explaining why I'm not
Speaker 1: saying fuck because I genuinely believe, like you better mean
Speaker 1: this shit. And if I ain't talking about shooting nobody,
Speaker 1: I ain't got no bitines saying fuck.
Speaker 3: When Game, when.
Speaker 1: The whole Black Wall set shit first started with the
Speaker 1: g and this ship and Game was putting together ship,
Speaker 1: he was like, gee, man, we finished disting niggas. Youre
Speaker 1: trying to jump on. Nah, I've been at to shoot
Speaker 1: at fifty in them, So I'm gonna do this other song.
Speaker 1: You're gonna do this song? Okay? Cool? This ain't this nobody?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: I can't get in the middle of the ship that
Speaker 1: I don't believe in shooting the nigga. That's right. My
Speaker 1: friends really shoot you about this shit. I really careful.
Speaker 1: So austral you, how long is that trip? Like, what
Speaker 1: does that look like for you? Now?
Speaker 4: It's about fifty hours of flying forty five minutes set.
Speaker 1: I just see it. So so it's one.
Speaker 5: Day, yes, all in Australia for one Yeah, and it's crazy.
Speaker 4: Sydney is the closest I'm going to Purf, which is
Speaker 4: six hours from the.
Speaker 1: Like from New York twenty four and a half hour flight.
Speaker 4: I think it's twenty one plus airport time plus going.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like a whole day.
Speaker 1: Oh real day. I like how kids say today, Like
Speaker 1: no for real? So then you drop six hours that's
Speaker 1: I just sold.
Speaker 3: No, no, we fly another six hours.
Speaker 1: Oh six hours of flight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's across the country. Sydney did first. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: it's like landing in New York.
Speaker 4: And then I had to go to La Yeah, YO said,
Speaker 4: it's forty five forty five minutes?
Speaker 1: What kind of what kind of event is it?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 4: I don't know because when they when the deal, I
Speaker 4: don't DJ parties.
Speaker 3: I don't DJ the dance. No, they just look like.
Speaker 1: A performance like yeah, yeah, so it's just I seen
Speaker 1: I've seen Jeff do it. Jeff. Yeah. I just said
Speaker 1: like that, do you do you do you work on it?
Speaker 1: Do you work on when you get home or at
Speaker 1: this point?
Speaker 7: Nah?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: So you got your blends from samples, alty set set?
Speaker 1: How creative do you like to go with that ship?
Speaker 3: I mean I do more talking. You know, DJ don't
Speaker 3: talk to Mike. I don't know why, but that's how
Speaker 3: I grew up. You had to talk. You had to
Speaker 3: get the point to me. A DJ is not what
Speaker 3: you do. It's can you keep the party going from
Speaker 3: this time to that time? That's all. It ain't about
Speaker 3: nothing else. If the floor is empty, you ain't doing it.
Speaker 1: And who is your favorite DJ?
Speaker 5: Me?
Speaker 3: Second?
Speaker 7: Me?
Speaker 1: I never looked at other DJs, another DJ except Dre
Speaker 1: because we j first and then he come out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you never like no other person. I've never
Speaker 1: seen any because in the DJ days, we was always
Speaker 1: in the club DJ.
Speaker 3: So I never went to I've never been to clubs
Speaker 3: seeing up the DJ.
Speaker 1: That's how I fell as a rapper. Everybody my first
Speaker 1: concert I was there, ye, people asking me about they
Speaker 1: be like, man, glad you ever seen the WSS Like Nigga,
Speaker 1: I lived it. I had the same experiences, so look
Speaker 1: at it like that. But now I kind of find
Speaker 1: myself catching those moments when I can, Oh, really, I
Speaker 1: gotta check you out. I gotta come see it. So
Speaker 1: the first concerts you went to, you was actually rapping
Speaker 1: at the Normany Casino and Guardian Oh one.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's the other one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I met a hustler.
Speaker 1: You never went to a I never even wanted to
Speaker 1: because I really believed in the music as like a soundtrack.
Speaker 1: To how we lived. I was living it like when
Speaker 1: dud See the Shadiest One came out. We was in
Speaker 1: low riders, going on the boulevard as fresh out of
Speaker 1: high school. So all do you glasses now? I'm forty
Speaker 1: three okay, four forty four?
Speaker 6: Shit, So we just lived it though, And who was
Speaker 6: on that ticket with you?
Speaker 1: You remember? Oh? I did it myself. Oh every My
Speaker 1: whole journey into hip hop has been like God replaced.
Speaker 1: So I lost. I had a and I know this
Speaker 1: is a little talking to you. I had a popping
Speaker 1: as siren spot one hundred and eighteen in the moments
Speaker 1: and when I lost it, like, I tried to open
Speaker 1: back up a couple but shit, just everything that could
Speaker 1: go wrong with So I came up with this idea
Speaker 1: to start a record late, and I brought a tekiki.
Speaker 1: I'ma started record later, and everybody looked at me crazy,
Speaker 1: even though on my own boysards like nigga, you don't
Speaker 1: know nothing about rapping. I'm like, yeah, but I could
Speaker 1: wrap like I got a rhythm and I'm art tickling.
Speaker 1: I ain't never drink or smoke, so I'm soul like
Speaker 1: I could. I'm a great storyteller. Already and so I
Speaker 1: started working on it and I got good at it,
Speaker 1: but it was all to replaced the business loss. So
Speaker 1: I opened the Regulabel. So my first concert, nobody booked
Speaker 1: me for. We booked it ourselves. We sold all our
Speaker 1: CDs ourselves. I mean, I didn't. We came in with
Speaker 1: the same mentality of hustling drugs, and that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Initially I was hustling. Everything about it was making money
Speaker 1: or how does it help the business? Twenty eleven, I
Speaker 1: started falling in love with the craft, the art of
Speaker 1: it all and what made it special. And then I
Speaker 1: start sharing it with my bro with Metro, like, hey, fool, like,
Speaker 1: it can't be about money. Dre used to say that, man,
Speaker 1: it can't be about no money. Rich ass nigga talking
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 6: But you know what, that's the same thing he tell
Speaker 6: me all the time.
Speaker 1: And I do that and it sounds crazy. I remember
Speaker 1: it sounded crazy to me. Nigga, I get it, and
Speaker 1: Higgas ain't crazy, I tell him.
Speaker 5: He think like I said, I'm forty, right, I got
Speaker 5: a seventeen year old, twelve year I got a wife,
Speaker 5: I'm making music twenty years You can't even do this
Speaker 5: eight years, nine years and I ain't no money.
Speaker 2: We just doing it for the love. Wife's like, what
Speaker 2: the money is?
Speaker 1: Money? It's different that I get what. I get what
Speaker 1: he's saying, but I know what see I'm telling them
Speaker 1: niggas is the same nigga, dread ya, same ship. So
Speaker 1: because I don't know how Dre really he acts like
Speaker 1: he be in there want to do something that nigga
Speaker 1: is like, man, we just gonna do but it had
Speaker 1: You have to be driven by the purpose of whatever
Speaker 1: it is. Right, if you making songs for the party,
Speaker 1: you gotta want It's like your whole purpose gotta be
Speaker 1: how to make the party go crazy with this song?
Speaker 1: When you making a film, like how do you you know,
Speaker 1: carry out the ship? And it gotta be that way
Speaker 1: you do business to make money.
Speaker 2: I mean, don't let him confuse you. My label called
Speaker 2: Timeless Music.
Speaker 5: So my initial I wasn't like I'm about to try
Speaker 5: to get rich, I'm gonna go make rap Like No,
Speaker 5: it's I'm in love with this and this is what
Speaker 5: I'm spending my life on. So this needs to generate
Speaker 5: business so I can take care of myself. Right, So
Speaker 5: it wasn't let's go get rich. I'm gonna make some mix,
Speaker 5: some records, like you know what I mean. So yeah,
Speaker 5: just so that's not misconstru true.
Speaker 1: Like what he said to you, It is just a business.
Speaker 1: But it can't be about the money. The business is
Speaker 1: just the business. But you gotta be I'll tell you
Speaker 1: right now, I'll be driven by different shit. Like when
Speaker 1: I opened up my site that's doing good now, the
Speaker 1: Cript store, I wasn't really worried about making money. I
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, I'm trying to open up something, make
Speaker 1: a store. People could come and they feel like a
Speaker 1: guilty pleasure coming to buy something from the crypt store.
Speaker 1: Who goes to the cryptstore dot com? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. That's how I'm thinking. I'm thinking like them
Speaker 1: niggas start then and then you just do the business.
Speaker 1: The business is gonna pay you any you know. When
Speaker 1: I did my first thing at the Normany Casino, my
Speaker 1: older brother shout out to Pool, but Pool wanted me
Speaker 1: to sell tickets for it was a guy named Sean Healey.
Speaker 1: He would make all the rappers sell tickets to open
Speaker 1: up for like different hue right to get in front
Speaker 1: of the big audience. But he would charge you for
Speaker 1: the tickets. So the charge you three thousand dollars and
Speaker 1: you that to sell three hundred tickets to get your money.
Speaker 1: And I remember my brother came to me, was like, man,
Speaker 1: you know, we gonna we're gonna give him three thousand
Speaker 1: dollars and he gonna let us open up for who
Speaker 1: was it at that time if somebody baby nd thanks
Speaker 1: to something somebody popping in two thousand and four, and
Speaker 1: I remember looking like, I mean two thousand and five,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not paying nobody to bring people today.
Speaker 1: That shit just didn't make sense to me as fucker, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what the fuck, I'm gonna pay you. I know enough
Speaker 1: people to come bring And so I remember telling my
Speaker 1: older brothers like, yeah, we should just find a venue
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna book it ourselves. And this shit
Speaker 1: nigga been street racing, low riding gang members selling us.
Speaker 1: We know a lot of people. We'll make them pay
Speaker 1: us to come see me wrapping. He's he looked at me, grady,
Speaker 1: He's like, nigga, ain't nobody finishes. I'm like, yeah, my
Speaker 1: CD been out there, we hustling and everybody know it.
Speaker 1: And they fucked with us. They fuck with me, so
Speaker 1: they gonna pay. And I remember that was our first
Speaker 1: show and I sold the tickets ten dollars pre sale,
Speaker 1: fifteen dollars at the door. My first concert I made four.
Speaker 3: Thousand mile wow, my first one.
Speaker 1: My third concert was for fred dre recipes from South Saw.
Speaker 1: All right, they booked me for their private but I
Speaker 1: refuse to pay other people to wrap.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I never when I hear about that, people paying
Speaker 3: to be.
Speaker 1: You pay to be on stage.
Speaker 3: For a couple of times, I'm like, what, I've never
Speaker 3: heard of that.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, because the way we grew up, we
Speaker 1: would never had We.
Speaker 4: Never had to perform in front of somebody trying to
Speaker 4: get somebody to like. We just did our own stuff
Speaker 4: in this pay to be an opening that what that
Speaker 4: don't make sense?
Speaker 3: It never made sense to me.
Speaker 1: I'm like a like a former advertising you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But then I look at it, like, why are
Speaker 4: you doing ten thousand songs and nobody know.
Speaker 1: Who you are? New York there doing a concert? No
Speaker 1: you aren't, So yeah, I open up for Yell, I
Speaker 1: open up for washing Malone. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, it's a different breed now. It's totally.
Speaker 1: No notoriety that clout or whatever for the rest of
Speaker 1: your life, career, you know, and that's what they're paying for.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, I've never understood it. I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I was like, no shirt, I would not pay.
Speaker 5: It's a question like when you see stuff like I
Speaker 5: don't know if you've noticed it, but like hit Boy
Speaker 5: producing albums for nas, right, like the younger generation working
Speaker 5: with the older generation. Is it people that you see
Speaker 5: on the West Coast that's younger, like a generation where
Speaker 5: you're like, man, I like to work with more people
Speaker 5: that you do. You ever want to like be in
Speaker 5: a mixed because I feel like me as a producer,
Speaker 5: like seeing y'all generation, like on the West Coast, there
Speaker 5: is like a disconnect where we talk about that like
Speaker 5: battle Cats should be producing Zoel Sama records, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, Warren g should be producing Wally the
Speaker 5: Sense records, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like it needs to be. It can't be like we
Speaker 2: did our thing and y'all got to figure it out too.
Speaker 3: To they just separate, you know, they just but like
Speaker 3: you said, they ever get together.
Speaker 5: But like he was saying, we feel I feel like
Speaker 5: I'm from your tree, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So when you yeah, he feels like he's from ice
Speaker 5: cube tree. So if y'all feel like there's a disconnect,
Speaker 5: that's where it'd be like, Yeah, it's like it's like
Speaker 5: cutting off your kids to it, dude, Like, yeah, y'all
Speaker 5: figure it out, grow up. But out of that now,
Speaker 5: obviously y'all figured it out on your own, and we
Speaker 5: are going to figure it out, like the next generation
Speaker 5: gonna come, with or without whoever's coming.
Speaker 2: People are gonna figure it out.
Speaker 5: But do you ever be feeling like like, yeah, you
Speaker 5: want to work with the younger generation or like yeah,
Speaker 5: rub those elbows and kind of.
Speaker 8: Or is it I mean if I was doing music,
Speaker 8: that'd be a smart way, yeah, to get with the
Speaker 8: new Yeah, the next general.
Speaker 5: When I think of like we're chroynic two thousand and one,
Speaker 5: I'll just be like I'm not even crying two thousand one.
Speaker 5: Like d times, I'll be thinking like, man, Dre just
Speaker 5: missed the opportunity to have obviously corrupt you know, dazh
Speaker 5: all of them eminem Snoop Dre and he could have
Speaker 5: had glasses problem, Nipsey, Hustle Jay rock like that was
Speaker 5: sitting right there in two thousand and seven eight and
Speaker 5: he just didn't grab it. And it's like he would
Speaker 5: have been responsible for that whole next generation to be
Speaker 5: like yeah, and he just like, now, y'all figure it out.
Speaker 5: That's kind of a feel.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you. But I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: it his defense and I cannot believe I'm.
Speaker 2: Defending it, but the New West Press exactly.
Speaker 1: But it's really be the landscape. Like I don't think
Speaker 1: it was the art the rappers he had the problem with.
Speaker 1: I think he didn't have a sonic landscape that he
Speaker 1: felt comfortable, like he felt confident about, like when like
Speaker 1: you notice, when you start making music, you gotta have
Speaker 1: like a feel that's going on and then you hit
Speaker 1: something and then you rock. And I just think he
Speaker 1: just never caught that feel again about it. As far
Speaker 1: as the landscape of music as a whole, we got
Speaker 1: with we'll talk to him, we gonna see him and asking,
Speaker 1: but I just think the whole music landscape shifted. I
Speaker 1: think you have to dj. I think what make hip
Speaker 1: hop great is you have to DJ. You DJ and
Speaker 1: you know what's moving everybody at a party, you know
Speaker 1: what's making everybody feel good. And then the day you
Speaker 1: stop DJing. That could last a long time based off
Speaker 1: how much Timmy, but eventually, like you have to be
Speaker 1: in tune with the streets going on.
Speaker 5: I think, Yeah, you make more money, your your things
Speaker 5: in the sharp, you're not as hungry.
Speaker 2: You get to remove from the street.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, what you did. I mean, I don't hit
Speaker 1: the album, most of them to come without.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're never going to go.
Speaker 5: I don't think we ever want Dread to make another
Speaker 5: Fuck the Police or make another Crown Tails one or
Speaker 5: exactly the chronic. It is like you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 5: let's say Kanye, right with somebody like Kanye, it's like
Speaker 5: how much he changed directions and stuff. None of his
Speaker 5: stuff really sound the same, and his fan base kind
Speaker 5: of follows him and kind of still support him as
Speaker 5: a person.
Speaker 1: I mean that's what you if you still trying to
Speaker 1: make music over years, you have to change, of course,
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 3: Your life to stay your own style, but you'll be
Speaker 3: in the dust.
Speaker 1: I mean, too short kind of guy. But you're still
Speaker 1: to say and I think we don't want that that's true.
Speaker 1: Like like I was hello critical and Drake drop Compton
Speaker 1: that sonic last gay, I was like, god, damn it,
Speaker 1: I need funky. So it has to be hard for
Speaker 1: any creative to be like, listen, you don't want to
Speaker 1: have a hit album.
Speaker 5: And then and you said that, like I said, you
Speaker 5: sitting that Mount Olympus. It's only down you could go.
Speaker 5: So it do make you be kind of like I
Speaker 5: don't know about putting out nothing because yeah, I know
Speaker 5: he probably look at Compton like like, yes, it came
Speaker 5: out of number two, like damn it, like yeah, it
Speaker 5: feels like a and.
Speaker 1: I'm sure when it left his in he felt confident
Speaker 1: about it. But then like if it I mean, artists
Speaker 1: art But then I think most people you know, still
Speaker 1: in the music business, no matter who, you still want
Speaker 1: to compete to some degree. I mean maybe you don't,
Speaker 1: but I think if you've been winning as long as
Speaker 1: some of them been winning, like you want to compete.
Speaker 1: You don't want to get your ass, you say.
Speaker 5: With him, he'd be very much trying to still be
Speaker 5: like I'm still better than all y'all, and I'm still
Speaker 5: like you know what I mean, you see that you
Speaker 5: know so I don't know.
Speaker 2: I guess it's different people. We are individuals, you know.
Speaker 1: But and then and then you may feel like I said,
Speaker 1: I don't think he ever had the problem with him
Speaker 1: because all of us was already working with cause like,
Speaker 1: but I think it got to a place to where
Speaker 1: it was like the music, man is this music? Ship
Speaker 1: is great? So much ship. And then when you got it,
Speaker 1: you got it, You're on fire. Dogs like where you're
Speaker 1: looking in the dark? Where is this ship at? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Where is this ship?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, what you got to get to
Speaker 4: the point you gotta be done with it. I mean,
Speaker 4: just oversee whatever, or just.
Speaker 3: Go onifaication, go enjoy life.
Speaker 4: You get to that point, Okay, you can't make another hit.
Speaker 4: You can't do that because it's just it's just the
Speaker 4: way it is. The time's changed too much. The new
Speaker 4: generation is totally different.
Speaker 2: That's why I was staying top ten with the youth.
Speaker 5: Is where even me at forty, all my artists are
Speaker 5: ten years fifteen years earlier than me, and I stay
Speaker 5: very much top ten with them and give them game,
Speaker 5: but also give them room to them telling me certain stuff,
Speaker 5: and me just absorbing it and being like, all right, yeah,
Speaker 5: let's try that.
Speaker 1: Like my probably I want to hold the niggas that
Speaker 1: just think eather shit, you gotta listen to the youth.
Speaker 1: I can't believe it.
Speaker 2: Like he's my son seventeen, you know, I say seventeen.
Speaker 5: I can't tell him sometimes I love because he'd be like,
Speaker 5: I don't see what's so great about little wange.
Speaker 2: That's so good, right, because he's seventeen and he didn't
Speaker 2: see it, right.
Speaker 1: It's just funny to.
Speaker 2: See, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: But you know what it is like. Also, like I
Speaker 1: think there's such a space at this point of hip
Speaker 1: hop if you you either that nigga you not. And
Speaker 1: I think it's the time when you feel like you're
Speaker 1: not it. So when you convince yourself you not, you
Speaker 1: know it's probably like I'm gonna do something else. But
Speaker 1: when you know it, you just know it, and at
Speaker 1: that point you just messing up how you gonna match
Speaker 1: up with current society at that time. That's how it
Speaker 1: is like for me as a creative right, it's like
Speaker 1: I got y'all covered, but let me see where'm gonna
Speaker 1: meet y'all at because I can't meet y'all right, where
Speaker 1: y'all at? You might have to walk up a little
Speaker 1: bit more. But I'm gonna put out some music. But
Speaker 1: i'm gonna catch you right at that. I'm gonna cut
Speaker 1: you all right at the past. And I got you.
Speaker 1: But I could imagine a time whereas a creative like
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be as motivating.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, right, I mean that's what you think about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna it's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: We don't want it to happen.
Speaker 1: But for sure, which I can make, I'll probably still
Speaker 1: be making them by myself.
Speaker 2: So we didn't really, I'm sorry. We kind of went
Speaker 2: on the tangent.
Speaker 5: So do you want to put your fingerprints across things
Speaker 5: on the coast again or with music at all?
Speaker 3: Or you No, I'm good, I'm satisfied.
Speaker 1: But to you other credit, I'll give you credit though.
Speaker 1: You're not the kind of person that won't talk to somebody.
Speaker 1: If they want to talk to you, they could come
Speaker 1: say hey, and this is what I tell you that
Speaker 1: I think we got wrong when we came in, Like
Speaker 1: we feel like everybody, all the elder should be teachers,
Speaker 1: and they are, but maybe they don't. That's not the drop.
Speaker 1: I don't think you run this motherfucker trying to ministry
Speaker 1: hit become yesterday and now listen to But if I
Speaker 1: ever reach for you, I could always grab you if
Speaker 1: I had question even here today. So I think that's
Speaker 1: all we really couldn't use. And I always tell people
Speaker 1: like different I tell here and I'll be like heah, man,
Speaker 1: you need to make sure you reach out to yetherw
Speaker 1: just this nigga knows some shit about djaying that niggas
Speaker 1: don't know. So again, I think it's on us to
Speaker 1: carry the legacy of it all being in past information
Speaker 1: like shit were talking about now, so now it's dope
Speaker 1: to when I start writing that store, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: able to reach out like, man, look, could you do this?
Speaker 1: And I think everything else will work your cell phone
Speaker 1: as long as I'm you know, driving the car, I
Speaker 1: think I feel pop it off, feeling.
Speaker 6: It you know what, I'm gonna just piggyback off what
Speaker 6: you said because like my son, he's sixteen, right, and
Speaker 6: so you know I'll be with yelling a lot. And
Speaker 6: you know he was even talking about like these current rappers.
Speaker 6: He's like, oh dad, n w A wasn't all that.
Speaker 6: I said, son, you you sixteen, and you have no
Speaker 6: idea like you know, like like what you'd be trying
Speaker 6: to explain to your son. It's like they don't understand.
Speaker 6: He's like, I will so and so got more money
Speaker 6: than in w A. I said, well, the money was
Speaker 6: not like it is today. But I said, and on
Speaker 6: top of that, they made original music, lying and.
Speaker 1: Niggas all got that. I'll be telling me or oh
Speaker 1: I know, but line, I know. So the next time
Speaker 1: you he Joe saying, you called me on three way glasses.
Speaker 6: Look he be so you know, and I'll tell him.
Speaker 6: I said, so you gotta remember what you you think
Speaker 6: they don't have that. But see, I mean you know
Speaker 6: because you on you own to.
Speaker 1: See they got all this money. I'm looking at niggas
Speaker 1: line exactly.
Speaker 6: And so I'll be trying to explain to my son
Speaker 6: and his friends. You know, they in my car and
Speaker 6: they you know, they be teaching me. They called me out,
Speaker 6: what's up, mister Yeller because they know he's my boy,
Speaker 6: and I'm like, I'm not yellow, I said, but that's
Speaker 6: my partner. And they was like, oh, well, how is
Speaker 6: he does? He got a big house? And then I said,
Speaker 6: he got a decent house. I said, but it's not
Speaker 6: about that. I said, you see these rappers on TV
Speaker 6: and this and this and that, and I said a
Speaker 6: lot of stuff you see, they don't own it, you know,
Speaker 6: I said, but n w A, you wouldn't have the
Speaker 6: rappers you have today without standing on their shoulders.
Speaker 2: Like we all like.
Speaker 1: In w A money. Them niggas don't got like NBA
Speaker 1: talent up all the money and ship between the amber
Speaker 1: w A about three.
Speaker 3: Four niggas exactly.
Speaker 1: The ain't just yellow yellow got some money, but this
Speaker 1: is niggas got some money too, right, and nigga got
Speaker 1: the white people money. And look and so when he
Speaker 1: like when you gave him this your album, right, he's like,
Speaker 1: who who? I don't know.
Speaker 6: They are the reason that these lady advisors, they created
Speaker 6: this label because of them. But see when a lot
Speaker 6: of the teenagers or the youngsters, they don't know that. Man.
Speaker 1: My dad used to say something to me that you
Speaker 1: is wasted young because if I was again, I remember
Speaker 1: they used to say this ship now I'm one of
Speaker 1: them niggas. Yeah, I was like, damn, I wish I
Speaker 1: knew this because I'd have for sure been a savage
Speaker 1: exact because you said, like, if I was your son's
Speaker 1: age and I knew what I knew, that I'll be
Speaker 1: asking these niggas every question why I'd be a monster
Speaker 1: by nineteen biggas, Boy, they be government tried to.
Speaker 3: To kill me.
Speaker 1: I got too much power. Exactly, these people going crazy exactly,
Speaker 1: that's type.
Speaker 5: This is like an NBA player today, Anthony Davis standing
Speaker 5: on Bill Russell's shoulders. Of course, Anthony Davis has way
Speaker 5: more money than what Wilt Chamberlain ever saw, but he
Speaker 5: wouldn't exist without them and stuff.
Speaker 2: So you can't shun him or be like, oh that
Speaker 2: niggas ain't nothing read to them. It's like, bro, you
Speaker 2: sounds crazy. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Again Again, if everybody so many me and Charlotte Mane
Speaker 1: talk about this all the time. Bro, so many niggas
Speaker 1: can lie about what they got and then obviou see
Speaker 1: them like all the niggas. So that's why I stopped
Speaker 1: even caring about the money conversation, even the Oprahs and shit,
Speaker 1: that ship line. It's a lot of exaggeration, but something
Speaker 1: I want to say, I'm gonna let you We're gonna
Speaker 1: cut the shit off. Me and my nigga was talking
Speaker 1: right and we was talking about Easy. Now, I've really
Speaker 1: been doing a really great job. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: like talk talking to yellers, dope, because I get to
Speaker 1: talk to Yether. There's certain like I can't talk to you.
Speaker 1: I don't need to talk I'm not these o. I
Speaker 1: don't got to talk to you about Drake Is. I
Speaker 1: don't talked to Drake Qne myself, but I can't talk
Speaker 1: to Easy at this point, right. So now to know
Speaker 1: that you and Drake could do in w A, he
Speaker 1: saw that that was evident because of what she was
Speaker 1: able to do with the world class. So even if
Speaker 1: he questioned it, at least at that point he was
Speaker 1: what these niggas know how to make the yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean so, how the fuck did he figure out
Speaker 1: Unique was gonna be able to do bone because Unique
Speaker 1: hadn't done anything except the stuff that he did on
Speaker 1: woofless with the the what's that group?
Speaker 3: Unique?
Speaker 1: He did something before boom, That's what I'm no. He
Speaker 1: did what's those dudes that was on woofless? It was
Speaker 1: two dudes? Now you're on market? Yes I did that, Okay,
Speaker 1: I did all them. So then how the fuck did
Speaker 1: he figure out Unique was gonna get a do boom? Like?
Speaker 1: How did he get that? Right?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: How do you think?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Because when they came in, people don't really know.
Speaker 4: I met them first. Man, he was doing the show backstage.
Speaker 4: They walked in singing, you know, rapping to well.
Speaker 1: I'm like, dras, you see this.
Speaker 3: Guy over here, go talk to him. Eric just came
Speaker 3: back in.
Speaker 4: Y'all talked to him, and by the time we got
Speaker 4: off the road trip, they was in LA from a
Speaker 4: bus and I'm just like.
Speaker 3: And they heard my song that I made for you
Speaker 3: more Mark he call for the Love of Money exactly.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know they heard the song.
Speaker 4: I guess Eric let him in it, and they made
Speaker 4: the song for I don't know if that was first
Speaker 4: or Unique song for it, but I didn't even know
Speaker 4: they was rapping to it.
Speaker 1: They said, oh yeah, these guys wrapped up?
Speaker 3: Who wrapped on what song?
Speaker 1: How the fuck did he figure out Unique was gonna
Speaker 1: be able to do that? I don't like, it's easy
Speaker 1: to gamble on you and Drake. It's easy. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's don't get me wrong, It's a childish, young motherfucker's
Speaker 1: making music. Yeah, Unique had done ship.
Speaker 3: I don't know how that one happened, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 1: You usually always take a group gonna take him there,
Speaker 1: dre and yelling like Unique does the records. It's just crazy.
Speaker 3: Or something already. He must have had one made. I'm
Speaker 3: quite sure he must have, because I'm like, he just
Speaker 3: came from nowhere. I am never heard of him from anything.
Speaker 1: It was. That's crazy. That's one of them things that
Speaker 1: in the whole landscape of people talking about easy and business,
Speaker 1: that's hard. Remember when you lose your producer. The end
Speaker 1: of cash money for young Money was when they lost
Speaker 1: Many and the no Limit when they lost Beats by
Speaker 1: the pound, and the Bad Boy is when they lost
Speaker 1: the hit Man, the end of death row. He lost
Speaker 1: Drake right, but Ruthless Right, You spent over and you
Speaker 1: get Unique to produce, which is probably a top five time.
Speaker 1: How the fuck do you figure that out? Remember nobody
Speaker 1: figured that. They figured out easy figure that out in
Speaker 1: the nineties.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they just a lot of people be under raising,
Speaker 5: underrating the producer being there.
Speaker 2: They think, oh, it's just nigga making beans.
Speaker 1: Eric had an ear, but he didn't have an hear
Speaker 1: he can produce himself to get out of paper bag,
Speaker 1: not at all, or or yeah or right around yeah.
Speaker 3: Nothing. But he just, I guess, took a chance. That's
Speaker 3: what I think. Just took a chance. Gimble, he knew
Speaker 3: how to roll them dice, so he rolled a seven eleven,
Speaker 3: seven eleven.
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