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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, hello, everyone. It's Malcolm Gladwell. I'm here today to

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<v Speaker 2>bring you something special. A chapter from my new book,

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<v Speaker 2>The American Way of Killing, The Invention of an Epidemic.

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<v Speaker 2>It's chapter two, called The Slave Owner's Lament. And it is,

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<v Speaker 2>to use a word we love here at Revisionist History,

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<v Speaker 2>the absolutely bananas story behind a Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution,

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<v Speaker 2>the Gun Rights Amendment, with guest appearances by 18th century Virginians,

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<v Speaker 2>a brilliant Australian linguist, the delightfully named historian Carl Bogus,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of cranky Supreme Court justices, and most of all,

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<v Speaker 2>a charismatic African slave named Jemmy. I am pleased to

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<v Speaker 2>announce the publication of my new book, The American Way

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<v Speaker 2>of Killing, The Invention of an Epidemic. Four episodes in

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<v Speaker 2>all on maybe one of the most complicated and perplexing

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<v Speaker 2>of American social issues. My new book is coming out

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<v Speaker 2>September 29th. You can find all of my book tour

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<v Speaker 2>dates on my website, global.com. Come and see me. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you're in the New York area, I'll be at

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<v Speaker 2>the 92nd Street Y in conversation with Katie Tour of

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<v Speaker 2>NBC News on the evening of September 29th, which should

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<v Speaker 2>be really fun. Doing this book opened my eyes. and

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<v Speaker 2>I hope it will do the same for you. You

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<v Speaker 2>can get The American Way of Killing at whatever bookstore

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<v Speaker 2>you frequent or online platform you like. And you can

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<v Speaker 2>find the audiobook version at pushkin.fm slash audiobooks or wherever

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<v Speaker 2>you get audiobooks.

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<v Speaker 3>I won't close my eyes and forget my sorrows I

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<v Speaker 3>don't care if the devil takes tomorrow. Ashes to ashes

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<v Speaker 3>if I must. I won't leave all my troubles.

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<v Speaker 2>Dust to dust. Chapter 2. The Slave Owner's Lament In

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<v Speaker 2>the early years of the 18th century, In the long

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<v Speaker 2>stretches of marshland known as the South Carolina Low Country,

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<v Speaker 2>the local authorities decided they needed to dig a network

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<v Speaker 2>of canals leading off the Stono River. The Stono is

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<v Speaker 2>a tidal channel just south and west of Charleston, snaking

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<v Speaker 2>its way between Johns Island and James Island. In the spring,

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<v Speaker 2>its banks would overflow, flooding roads and homes and farmland,

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<v Speaker 2>and the idea was to build the equivalent of storm

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<v Speaker 2>sewers off the river. They were six feet deep and

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<v Speaker 2>15 to 20 feet wide, so substantial that many are

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<v Speaker 2>still there today. Digging them out of the heavy mud

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<v Speaker 2>was a massive undertaking. The historian Peter Charles Hoffer writes, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>bending over shovels and mattocks in the snake and insect

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<v Speaker 2>infected waters, the diggers were exposed to the elements, disease

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<v Speaker 2>and exhaustion. He went on, the summer heat would create

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<v Speaker 2>terrible thirst. But the brackish water at the diggers' feet

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<v Speaker 2>was filled with deadly bacteria, parasites, and waste. This was

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<v Speaker 2>not a task the white colonists of South Carolina would

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<v Speaker 2>ever dream of doing themselves. It was a job for

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<v Speaker 2>their slaves. Imagine a group of two dozen or so bondsmen,

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<v Speaker 2>as slaves were often euphemistically called, digging ditches off the

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<v Speaker 2>Stono River. It's early September, 1739. The profits from rice

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<v Speaker 2>cultivation in that part of South Carolina were so large

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<v Speaker 2>that it was often cheaper for plantation owners to work

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<v Speaker 2>their slaves to death and buy replacements than to try

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<v Speaker 2>and keep their existing slaves alive. So these are men

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<v Speaker 2>fresh off the boat from Angola and what was then

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<v Speaker 2>called Congo with a K. It was a Saturday. They

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<v Speaker 2>had been out in the hot sun all day and

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<v Speaker 2>faced the prospect of having to do the same thing

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<v Speaker 2>the following day, because ditch digging was considered so urgent

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<v Speaker 2>that the normal Sunday day of rest was suspended. They

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<v Speaker 2>were exhausted. Their white overseer had left early. They were

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<v Speaker 2>on their own. Across the river from where they were

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<v Speaker 2>working was a general store called Hutchinson's. At the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the workday, they crossed over the river and made

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<v Speaker 2>their way to the store for food and refreshment. No

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<v Speaker 2>one knows exactly when and why this ragged band of

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<v Speaker 2>slaves changed course. But between the ditches and Hutchinson's, exhaustion

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<v Speaker 2>turned to anger. One of the group, Jemmy, emerged as

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<v Speaker 2>the leader. The store was closed. They broke in. They

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<v Speaker 2>found two men inside. They killed them both. Someone would

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<v Speaker 2>later allege that the rebels cut off their victims' heads

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<v Speaker 2>and impaled them on a stake outside. They looted the store,

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<v Speaker 2>taking rifles and ammunition and alcohol with them. They started

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<v Speaker 2>off marching down the road, beating drums and crying, Liberty!

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<v Speaker 2>Other slaves joined them. It was now the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the night. When they saw the houses of slave owners,

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<v Speaker 2>they made a decision. Is this someone who treats us

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<v Speaker 2>with even a modicum of kindness? If so, they skipped

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<v Speaker 2>the house. If not, they burned the house down and

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<v Speaker 2>killed everyone inside. One contemporary account reads, They marched on

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<v Speaker 2>with colors displayed and two drums beating, pursuing all the

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<v Speaker 2>white people they met with and killing man, woman, and

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<v Speaker 2>child when they could come up to them. End of quote.

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<v Speaker 2>By morning, they were more than a hundred strong and

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<v Speaker 2>miles from the Stono River. Since it was Sunday, most

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<v Speaker 2>of the white population of the Lowcountry was in church,

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<v Speaker 2>so Jemmy's band marched on without incident. Finally, they were

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<v Speaker 2>spotted by South Carolina's lieutenant governor, William Bull. Bull had

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<v Speaker 2>been sounding the alarm for some time that South Carolina's slaves, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>which were the state's chief support, may in little time

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<v Speaker 2>become their enemies, if not their masters, and that this

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<v Speaker 2>government is unable to withstand or prevent it, end of quote.

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<v Speaker 2>One of his companions raced to a nearby church, Willtown Presbyterian.

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<v Speaker 2>He rounded up as many men as he could, News spread.

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<v Speaker 2>Other men grabbed their guns and joined. The rebels were

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<v Speaker 2>resting on Ponds Ponds Road near Jacksonboro. The two sides clashed,

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<v Speaker 2>and in a fierce and bloody encounter, the rebels were defeated.

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<v Speaker 2>If you were a slave owner in the South, you

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<v Speaker 2>knew about the Stono Rebellion, especially if you lived in

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<v Speaker 2>South Carolina or Virginia. You read about it in the newspaper.

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<v Speaker 2>Or someone who was there wrote you about it or

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<v Speaker 2>told you about it at church. Every white planter knew

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<v Speaker 2>that a day of reckoning was coming. In Barbados, where

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<v Speaker 2>many of the founding fathers of the South Carolina colony

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<v Speaker 2>came from, the British could barely keep their slaves under control.

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<v Speaker 2>Uprisings were a constant worry on the slave ships coming

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<v Speaker 2>from Africa. Slaves ran away. They fought back. They engaged

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<v Speaker 2>in frequent acts of disobedience and resistance. You could whip

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<v Speaker 2>your slaves into submission, starve them, punish them, or simply

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<v Speaker 2>sell the troublemakers to someone else. But at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the day, you had to live with the reality

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<v Speaker 2>that it was only a matter of time before the

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<v Speaker 2>cauldron bubbled over. At the Monticello plantation in Virginia, where

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<v Speaker 2>Thomas Jefferson lived with his immediate family, there were as

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<v Speaker 2>many as 140 slaves at any given moment, and only

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<v Speaker 2>a few white overseers. In South Carolina, slaves composed over 70%

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<v Speaker 2>of the total population of the colony. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>ventured out as far as the Stono River, the ratio

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<v Speaker 2>of black to white on plantations reached 10 to 1,

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<v Speaker 2>or even 15 to 1. If you had to ride

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<v Speaker 2>to town on business, or go to the state capitol

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<v Speaker 2>for a few days, leaving your wife and children at home,

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<v Speaker 2>could you feel safe? Thomas Jefferson said, would famously describe

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<v Speaker 2>the practice of slavery as grabbing a wolf by the ears.

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<v Speaker 2>It was too dangerous to continue, but too dangerous to stop.

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<v Speaker 2>And then comes the Stoner Rebellion, and that pit in

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<v Speaker 2>your stomach becomes a molten mass. What was behind Jemmy's insurrection?

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<v Speaker 2>They were headed south, which suggests that perhaps they were

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<v Speaker 2>trying to reach Florida, then under Spanish control, where escaped

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<v Speaker 2>slaves could find safe haven. But if that were the case,

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<v Speaker 2>why did the slaves go on such a rampage? A

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<v Speaker 2>more plausible explanation, and to the slave owners of the South,

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<v Speaker 2>the more terrifying one, is that Jemmy and his followers

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<v Speaker 2>were just out for blood. This is how the law

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<v Speaker 2>professor Carl Bogus described it to me.

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<v Speaker 4>They beat drums and made noise and cried out liberty

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<v Speaker 4>and flew flags and asked people to join them. I

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<v Speaker 4>think clearly their objective, we're just going to kill as

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<v Speaker 4>many of you as possible. Of course, there was a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of rage.

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<v Speaker 2>This chapter is about the Second Amendment to the United

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<v Speaker 2>States Constitution. The sentence that squats at the very center

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<v Speaker 2>of every discussion of the place of guns in American society.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about how the conversation around the Second Amendment is

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<v Speaker 2>every bit as dishonest as the conversation around assault rifles.

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<v Speaker 2>And why is it dishonest? Because it pretends that we

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<v Speaker 2>can talk about the meaning of the Second Amendment in

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<v Speaker 2>a without regard to the motivations of the men who

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<v Speaker 2>conceived of it back in the 18th century. As historian

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Charles Hoffer has written, The master portrayed himself as

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<v Speaker 2>the good father, the head of an extended household, in

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<v Speaker 2>which slaves were childlike laborers, women were submissive helpmeets, and

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<v Speaker 2>servants were obedient and loyal. Masters could put on a

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<v Speaker 2>stern face, like the biblical patriarchs, or act the loving

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<v Speaker 2>and affectionate father. Hoffer is speaking of the psychology of

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<v Speaker 2>the white men who grabbed their guns that Sunday morning

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<v Speaker 2>and rode off to confront Jemmy's band. But it was

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<v Speaker 2>all an act. He goes on. However he handled sentiment

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<v Speaker 2>and authority, the planter was an anxious man. The only

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<v Speaker 2>major country in the world other than the United States

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<v Speaker 2>to give its citizens the constitutional right to bear arms

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<v Speaker 2>is Mexico. Article 10 of the Mexican Constitution reads, The

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<v Speaker 2>inhabitants of the United Mexican States have the right to

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<v Speaker 2>keep arms at home for their protection and legitimate defense,

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<v Speaker 2>with the exception of those prohibited by the federal law

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<v Speaker 2>and those reserved for the exclusive use of the Army, Navy,

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<v Speaker 2>Air Force and National Guard. Federal law will state the cases, conditions,

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<v Speaker 2>requirements and places where inhabitants can be authorized to carry weapons.

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<v Speaker 2>Those two sentences that make up Article 10 were written

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<v Speaker 2>in 1917, firmly in the modern era. You may or

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<v Speaker 2>may not agree with its intent, but there is no

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<v Speaker 2>uncertainty about what it means. It says, plainly, that the

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<v Speaker 2>Mexican government cannot take guns away from its citizens. At

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<v Speaker 2>the same time, though, it gives Mexico's lawmakers a very

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<v Speaker 2>clear set of instructions about how they can limit that right.

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<v Speaker 2>The government can define the, quote, cases, conditions, requirements, and places,

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<v Speaker 2>end quote, where guns are and are not allowed. Mexico

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<v Speaker 2>has had its own very serious problems with lethal violence

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<v Speaker 2>in recent years. But none of Mexico's problems with controlling

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<v Speaker 2>guns are caused by any ambiguities in the country's constitution.

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<v Speaker 2>Article 10 is crystal clear. By contrast, the Second Amendment

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<v Speaker 2>to the United States Constitution, America's equivalent to Article 10,

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<v Speaker 2>is a puzzle. A well-regulated militia being necessary to the

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<v Speaker 2>security of a free state, the right of the people

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<v Speaker 2>to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. That

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<v Speaker 2>sentence was written in the late 18th century, an era

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<v Speaker 2>closer to Shakespeare's time than our own, and no one

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<v Speaker 2>would write a sentence like that today. It starts with

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<v Speaker 2>what some linguists call an initial being clause, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a thought that precedes the main body of the sentence. So, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>a well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a

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<v Speaker 2>free state, comma. Then, after that comma, is what's known

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<v Speaker 2>as the operative clause. Quote, The right of the people

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<v Speaker 2>to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. End

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<v Speaker 2>of quote. We don't use initial being clauses much anymore. Moreover,

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<v Speaker 2>we would almost never use a being clause next to

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<v Speaker 2>an operative clause where the two clauses have different subjects.

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<v Speaker 2>That last quirk is what makes the Second Amendment so

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<v Speaker 2>awkward to our ears. we keep expecting that militia, the

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<v Speaker 2>subject of the initial clause, is also going to be

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<v Speaker 2>the subject of the main clause. And to our grammatical bewilderment,

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<v Speaker 2>it isn't. The first half of the Second Amendment is

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<v Speaker 2>perched on the second half like a top hat on

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<v Speaker 2>an elephant. So, what does it mean? What is the

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<v Speaker 2>relationship between those two clauses? Does the early reference to

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<v Speaker 2>a militia mean that the right of the people to

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<v Speaker 2>keep and bear arms applies strictly in the context of

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<v Speaker 2>military service? Or is the reason that the first half

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<v Speaker 2>has as its subject militia and the second half has

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<v Speaker 2>as its subject right that we're supposed to think of

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<v Speaker 2>them as separate thoughts, with the initial being clause acting

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<v Speaker 2>as a kind of throat clearing? Militias are necessary. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>owning guns is a right. For years, this was an

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<v Speaker 2>open question. It was the kind of thing that bookish

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<v Speaker 2>legal scholars or gun enthusiasts might argue over. But the

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<v Speaker 2>meaning of the Second Amendment wasn't something the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 2>spent much time thinking about. In its entire history, through

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<v Speaker 2>the early years of the 21st century, only a handful

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<v Speaker 2>of Second Amendment cases had ever come before the court.

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<v Speaker 2>And they concerned narrow and tangential issues that like whether

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<v Speaker 2>Americans had the right to carry a sawed-off shotgun in public.

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<v Speaker 2>The First Amendment, which guarantees the right to free speech,

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<v Speaker 2>or the 14th Amendment, which grants all Americans equal protection

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<v Speaker 2>under the law, raised the kinds of questions that commanded

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<v Speaker 2>the Supreme Court's time. The Second Amendment was an afterthought.

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<v Speaker 2>All of that changed, however, when in 2008, the Supreme

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<v Speaker 2>Court agreed to hear a case called District of Columbia v. Heller.

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<v Speaker 2>It involved a police officer in Washington, D.C. named Dick Heller,

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<v Speaker 2>who thought he should be able to keep his handgun

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<v Speaker 2>at home, just as he was able to keep a

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<v Speaker 2>handgun on him while he was on duty. Under D.C. law, however,

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<v Speaker 2>personal handgun ownership was forbidden. Denied a gun, Heller sued,

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<v Speaker 2>saying that D.C. 's law violated the Second Amendment and

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<v Speaker 2>the case rose all the way to the Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, if the United States had a version of

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<v Speaker 2>Mexico's Article 10 in its constitution, deciding District of Columbia v.

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<v Speaker 2>Heller would have been straightforward. Was the district's law permissible

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<v Speaker 2>under the authority given to the government to limit the cases, conditions, requirements,

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<v Speaker 2>and places where guns are allowed? Plainly, it was. But

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<v Speaker 2>the Second Amendment is not Mexico's Article 10. It is

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<v Speaker 2>an initial being clause attached awkwardly to an operative clause

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<v Speaker 2>like a top hat on an elephant. And in order

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out whether Heller's Second Amendment rights were violated,

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<v Speaker 2>the court first had to figure out what the Second

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<v Speaker 2>Amendment meant. In other words, before they could be jurists,

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<v Speaker 2>the Supreme Court justices had to be grammarians. So it

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<v Speaker 2>was that on Tuesday, March 18, 2008, the U.S. Supreme

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<v Speaker 2>Court assembled to hear this most consequential of cases. Imagine

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<v Speaker 2>the scene. The justices are seated in a row behind

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<v Speaker 2>a long, curved mahogany table in the court's central chamber,

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<v Speaker 2>an imposing room in the grand neoclassical revival style. 44-foot ceilings,

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<v Speaker 2>24 ionic columns in marble, shipped from Liguria, Italy. Supreme

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<v Speaker 2>Court case's begin with oral arguments, when the judges hear

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<v Speaker 2>lawyers from both sides advocate for their clients. And here

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<v Speaker 2>is how the proceedings that day begin. The lawyer for

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<v Speaker 2>the District of Columbia, Walter Dellinger, goes first.

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<v Speaker 5>The Second Amendment was a direct response to concern over

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<v Speaker 5>Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution, which gave the

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<v Speaker 5>new National Congress the surprising, perhaps even the shocking power

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<v Speaker 5>to organize, arm, and presumably disarm the state militias.

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<v Speaker 2>To Dellinger, it was clear that the people drafting the

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<v Speaker 2>Second Amendment were thinking about militias. That's why they put

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<v Speaker 2>the Being Clause, a well-regulated militia being necessary to the

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<v Speaker 2>security of a free state, at the beginning of the sentence,

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<v Speaker 2>framing our understanding of the Operative Clause.

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<v Speaker 5>The Amendment's first clause confirms... that the right is militia-related.

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<v Speaker 2>The Second Amendment is about the right to bear arms

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<v Speaker 2>in the context of military service. The D.C. ban on handguns, then,

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<v Speaker 2>is perfectly appropriate. Immediately, the Chief Justice of the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>John Roberts, interrupts.

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<v Speaker 6>If you're right, Mr.

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<v Speaker 1>Dellinger, it's certainly an odd way in the Second Amendment

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<v Speaker 1>to phrase the operative provision if it is limited to

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<v Speaker 1>state militia's Why would they say the right of the people?

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, why wouldn't they say state militias have

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<v Speaker 1>the right to keep arms?

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<v Speaker 2>The Chief Justice is saying that if the initial being

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<v Speaker 2>clause and the operative clause were intended to be read

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<v Speaker 2>as one seamless thought, they would have the same subject.

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<v Speaker 2>Dellinger shakes his head.

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<v Speaker 6>Mr.

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<v Speaker 5>Chief Justice, I believe that the phrase the people and

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<v Speaker 5>the phrase the militia were really in sync with each other.

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<v Speaker 5>You will see references in the debates of the Federalist

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<v Speaker 5>farmer uses the phrase the people are the militia The

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<v Speaker 5>militia are the people.

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<v Speaker 2>It may look like two clauses with different subjects, but

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<v Speaker 2>it should be read as two clauses with synonymous subjects.

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<v Speaker 2>Got that? The oral argument is only a minute old,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Supreme Court has turned into the equivalent of

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<v Speaker 2>a fifth-grade classroom, with the students at the blackboard puzzling

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<v Speaker 2>over how to parse a sentence. It's Justice Anthony Kennedy's turn.

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<v Speaker 6>It seems to me that there is an interpretation of

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<v Speaker 6>the Second Amendment that conforms the two clauses and, in effect,

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<v Speaker 6>delinks them. The first clause, I submit, can be read

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<v Speaker 6>consistently with the purpose of simply reaffirming the existence and

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<v Speaker 6>the importance of the militia clauses. And so, in effect,

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<v Speaker 6>the amendment says we reaffirm the right to have a militia.

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<v Speaker 6>We've established it. But in addition, there is a right

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<v Speaker 6>to bear arms.

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<v Speaker 2>The being clause, Kennedy is saying, can be delinked from

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<v Speaker 2>the operative clause. Kennedy is one of those people who

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<v Speaker 2>see the first clause about a well-regulated militia as an

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<v Speaker 2>hors d'oeuvre that has nothing to do with the entree.

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<v Speaker 2>And the entree in his reading is all that matters.

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<v Speaker 2>The right of the people to keep and bear arms

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<v Speaker 2>shall not be infringed. The Second Amendment guarantees that everyone

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<v Speaker 2>in the U.S. has the right to own and carry

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<v Speaker 2>a gun. D.C. 's law is unconstitutional. Dellinger replies, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>that makes no sense. That's not how being clauses work.

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<v Speaker 2>The function of a being clause is to clarify the

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<v Speaker 2>meaning of the rest of the sentence, to contextualize the

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<v Speaker 2>operative clause. Otherwise, why would the framers of the Constitution

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<v Speaker 2>have put it there at all?

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<v Speaker 5>What you see is a clause that that literally transposes

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<v Speaker 5>to this because a well-regulated militia is necessary to the

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<v Speaker 5>security of a free state, the right of the people

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<v Speaker 5>to keep and bear arms shall not be... The.

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<v Speaker 2>Back and forth continues. Justice Antonin Scalia chimes in. No, no, no.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't see how there's any contradiction between reading the

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<v Speaker 7>second clause as a personal guarantee... and reading the first

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<v Speaker 7>one as assuring the existence of a militia. The two

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<v Speaker 7>clauses go together beautifully. Since we need a militia, the

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<v Speaker 7>right of the people to keep and bear arms shall

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<v Speaker 7>not be infringed.

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<v Speaker 2>Dellinger tries to counter.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, but once you assume that the clause is designed

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<v Speaker 5>to protect the militia, surely it's the militia that decides

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<v Speaker 5>whether personal possession.

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<v Speaker 2>Kennedy jumps in again. The exercise began with one student

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<v Speaker 2>at the blackboard with a piece of chalk, diagramming the sentence.

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<v Speaker 2>But now the whole class is involved, everyone jostling for

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<v Speaker 2>space at the front of the room while they furiously

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<v Speaker 2>add their own notations. Asked to weigh in on one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most serious of all social issues facing the

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<v Speaker 2>United States, the Supreme Court has instead become hung up

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<v Speaker 2>on the grammatical structure of a sentence drafted more than

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<v Speaker 2>200 years before, written in a style of English that

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<v Speaker 2>no longer exists. The fight over assault rifles is a

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<v Speaker 2>dishonest conversation because it pretends to address a real issue,

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<v Speaker 2>when in fact every assault rifle ban devotes more pages

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<v Speaker 2>to the high-powered rifles exempt from the ban than the

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<v Speaker 2>ban itself. But the Second Amendment conversation is equally dishonest.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you can't debate 18th century grammar if all you

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<v Speaker 2>know is 21st century grammar. And you can't understand the

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<v Speaker 2>meaning of an 18th century sentence unless you know something

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<v Speaker 2>about the person who wrote that sentence. So let's start

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<v Speaker 2>again and try and imagine what an honest conversation about

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<v Speaker 2>the Second Amendment looks like. The Second Amendment was written

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<v Speaker 2>by James Madison, maybe the most intellectually distinguished of the

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<v Speaker 2>Founding Fathers. Madison once wrote, The use of words is

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<v Speaker 2>to express ideas. Purpicuity, therefore, requires not only that the

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<v Speaker 2>ideas should be distinctly formed, but that they should be

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<v Speaker 2>expressed by words distinctly and exclusively appropriate to them. end

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<v Speaker 2>of quote. Madison was known for carefully reading the writings

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<v Speaker 2>of his contemporaries and removing a phrase or editing a

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<v Speaker 2>passage that he didn't think was quite right. He was precise,

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<v Speaker 2>almost persnickety about language. As the literary critic Lewis Shadler

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<v Speaker 2>wrote once in an analysis of Madison's prose, quote, the

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<v Speaker 2>importance of having proper words in proper places was always

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<v Speaker 2>strong in his mind, end quote. In his work on

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<v Speaker 2>the single most important intellectual and civic project of his lifetime, then,

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<v Speaker 2>it is inconceivable that Madison just dashed off a quick

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<v Speaker 2>thought and left it at that. Madison never dashed anything off.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason the Second Amendment is problematic is simply because

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<v Speaker 2>it was written according to a set of rules and

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<v Speaker 2>grammatical norms that no longer exist. To understand what he

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<v Speaker 2>really meant then We have to think as he, a

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<v Speaker 2>man of the late 18th century, did. We need to

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<v Speaker 2>enter the mind of James Madison. There are two ways

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<v Speaker 2>to do this. The first is through the use of

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<v Speaker 2>what are called linguistic corpora. These are massive research databases

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<v Speaker 2>that contain hundreds of thousands of digitized documents going back,

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<v Speaker 2>in some cases, many hundreds of years. Think of them

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<v Speaker 2>as Google Docs. but for dusty old manuscripts buried deep

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<v Speaker 2>in library archives. For example, there is something called the

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<v Speaker 2>Corpus of Founding Era American English, maintained by Brigham Young

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<v Speaker 2>University in Utah, which holds more than 120,000 separate documents

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<v Speaker 2>from the period 1765 to 1799, totaling over 130 million words.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to know how many times George Washington

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<v Speaker 2>dangled a participle, the C-O-F-E-A can tell you. So what

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<v Speaker 2>do linguistic corpora tell us about how James Madison used

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<v Speaker 2>being clauses? The most extensive empirical analysis of Madison's prose

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<v Speaker 2>has been done by an Australian linguist named Kari Sullivan.

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<v Speaker 2>Sullivan picked four corpora that were most relevant to the

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<v Speaker 2>period both before and after the writing of the Constitution,

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<v Speaker 2>a span covering 650 years. She made a database of

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<v Speaker 2>every sentence containing a being clause. She found 1,363. Then

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<v Speaker 2>she combed through each example, looking at the way the

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<v Speaker 2>being clause was being deployed. Her first conclusion confirms why

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<v Speaker 2>Madison's sentence is so mysterious to us today. In the

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<v Speaker 2>past 100 years, she found, it has become extremely rare

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<v Speaker 2>to find a sentence in published English where an initial

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<v Speaker 2>being clause and the main clause that follows have different subjects.

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<v Speaker 2>She writes, quote, Since this type of being clause fell

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<v Speaker 2>into disuse about 100 years ago, it is reasonable that

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<v Speaker 2>modern readers would not have good intuitions about its grammaticality

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<v Speaker 2>or its meaning. End of quote. Then she asked, did

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<v Speaker 2>Madison use being clauses? Answer, all the time. She found

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<v Speaker 2>976 examples in Madison's writing. Apparently, he loved that construction.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's an example. I am obliged to write in a

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<v Speaker 2>position that severely limits the use of any of my limbs, Mr.

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<v Speaker 2>Jones and myself being lodged in a room not 10

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<v Speaker 2>foot square and without a single accommodation for writing. End

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<v Speaker 2>of quote. Finally, Sullivan turns to the crucial question. Were

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<v Speaker 2>the Justices Roberts, Kennedy, and Scalia correct in their reading

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<v Speaker 2>of the Second Amendment? That the initial being clause in

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<v Speaker 2>the Second Amendment does not modify the operative clause. That

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<v Speaker 2>they are separate thoughts. Remember what Kennedy said? It seems

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<v Speaker 2>to me that there is an interpretation of the Second

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<v Speaker 2>Amendment in that conforms the two clauses and, in effect,

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<v Speaker 2>delinks them? To answer that question, Sullivan went through all

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<v Speaker 2>976 of Madison's initial being clauses to see how many

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<v Speaker 2>times Madison used a being clause in this particular way,

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<v Speaker 2>as a thought separate from the operative clause next to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Her answer? Never. In fact, no one in the late

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<v Speaker 2>18th century used being clauses this way. That kind of

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<v Speaker 2>sentence construction, she writes, quote, became ungrammatical over a hundred

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<v Speaker 2>years before the writing of the Second Amendment. End of quote.

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<v Speaker 2>People stopped writing sentences like that in the 1660s. A

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<v Speaker 2>stickler like Madison would no more use a standalone being

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<v Speaker 2>clause than a contemporary Supreme Court justice would sprinkle thee

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<v Speaker 2>and thou throughout an opinion. Here's how Madison liked to

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<v Speaker 2>use being clauses. It being requisite that the office of

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<v Speaker 2>accountant to the Department of War be placed in other hands,

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<v Speaker 2>you will consider it as ceasing to be in yours

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<v Speaker 2>after this date, end of quote. Or in modern English,

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<v Speaker 2>why am I firing you? Because I want to give

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<v Speaker 2>the job to someone else. Observation and explanation separated by

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<v Speaker 2>a comma. Now the Second Amendment makes perfect sense. Why

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<v Speaker 2>should the right of the people to keep and bear

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<v Speaker 2>arms not be infringed? Because we don't want anything to

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<v Speaker 2>threaten the existence. The Second Amendment is about militias. But why?

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<v Speaker 2>Why were militias so crucial that a special provision was

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<v Speaker 2>made for them in the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution,

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<v Speaker 2>behind only the right to free speech? To answer that,

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<v Speaker 2>we must once again take ourselves back to the mind

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<v Speaker 2>of James Madison. Madison was from Virginia. the largest of

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<v Speaker 2>the slave-owning states. He grew up on a plantation. His

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<v Speaker 2>father owned 100 slaves. His grandfather was allegedly poisoned to

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<v Speaker 2>death by three slaves on the family plantation. James Madison

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<v Speaker 2>knew all about the Stono Rebellion. He was as petrified

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<v Speaker 2>as any other white planter. And for the petrified planter,

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<v Speaker 2>the militias were of special importance. Militias were an English invention,

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<v Speaker 2>with origins in the passe comitatus, or community force of

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<v Speaker 2>the Middle Ages. This was hundreds of years before the

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<v Speaker 2>invention of modern police departments. Law and order was imposed

0:32:31.060 --> 0:32:35.660
<v Speaker 2>through an informal process. Here is the historian Sally Haddon,

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<v Speaker 2>the author of one of the definitive studies of the

0:32:38.620 --> 0:32:43.720
<v Speaker 2>colonial militia, Slave Patrol's Law and Violence in Virginia and

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<v Speaker 2>the Carolinas.

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<v Speaker 8>So every county, every shire has a shiree, a sheriff.

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<v Speaker 8>And somebody goes running to the sheriff and says, Sheriff, Sheriff,

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<v Speaker 8>somebody has kidnapped my daughter, has stolen my horse, has

0:33:01.140 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 8>done something against the law. And the sheriff has no troops.

0:33:04.460 --> 0:33:08.170
<v Speaker 8>Sheriff has nobody working for him. He's it. Where's he

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<v Speaker 8>going to get manpower from to go chase that person?

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<v Speaker 8>So he issues a hewing cry, and the hewing cry

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<v Speaker 8>basically says all able-bodied individuals are basically supposed to come

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 8>to his aid and track down the person who's accused.

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 8>And the reason why people respond is, it could be

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 8>them tomorrow, right? It's your daughter today, it's my child

0:33:29.900 --> 0:33:31.720
<v Speaker 8>or my basket or my horse tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Over time, that informal means of community protection turned into

0:33:37.290 --> 0:33:42.090
<v Speaker 2>a militia, an organized local force used for emergencies and

0:33:42.130 --> 0:33:46.350
<v Speaker 2>to confront threats to the community. When colonists came to

0:33:46.390 --> 0:33:49.270
<v Speaker 2>the New World, they brought the concept of the militia

0:33:49.330 --> 0:33:52.950
<v Speaker 2>with them. Is your town being threatened by Native Americans?

0:33:53.750 --> 0:33:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Call in the militia. Are you worried about the Spanish

0:33:56.850 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 2>lurking on your border? Call in the militia. In the South,

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:05.540
<v Speaker 2>the militia took on even greater importance. Slaves were hard

0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:08.950
<v Speaker 2>to control, especially at night. They would leave under the

0:34:08.989 --> 0:34:12.330
<v Speaker 2>cover of darkness and visit friends at other properties. There

0:34:12.350 --> 0:34:15.880
<v Speaker 2>was a curfew. It had to be enforced. Traveling slaves

0:34:16.140 --> 0:34:18.979
<v Speaker 2>were supposed to have a pass from their master. Someone

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 2>had to check to see if that rule was obeyed,

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:25.660
<v Speaker 2>and if not, administer a whipping. All able-bodied men in

0:34:25.700 --> 0:34:29.950
<v Speaker 2>the community took turns volunteering for patrol duty. They were

0:34:30.049 --> 0:34:34.330
<v Speaker 2>carefully mapped out patrol routes, rules of engagement. If anyone

0:34:34.370 --> 0:34:37.529
<v Speaker 2>tried to tinker with the system, there were cries of outrage.

0:34:38.370 --> 0:34:43.210
<v Speaker 2>One plantation owner in South Carolina named Samuel McGowan writes

0:34:43.290 --> 0:34:47.030
<v Speaker 2>this in a letter to the state's governor. Our state

0:34:47.109 --> 0:34:51.509
<v Speaker 2>has no other reliance against foreign invasion or internal commotion

0:34:52.190 --> 0:34:56.459
<v Speaker 2>than her own citizens organized under the militia system into

0:34:56.500 --> 0:35:00.979
<v Speaker 2>an army of about 40,000 citizen soldiers liable to do

0:35:01.140 --> 0:35:06.779
<v Speaker 2>ordinary militia duty. The institution of slavery... requires that we

0:35:06.839 --> 0:35:10.880
<v Speaker 2>should keep up the patrol, and it is intimately connected

0:35:10.940 --> 0:35:17.129
<v Speaker 2>with and based upon the militia system. Why is McGowan

0:35:17.190 --> 0:35:22.009
<v Speaker 2>so adamant? Because everyone still remembered the Stono Rebellion. It

0:35:22.069 --> 0:35:25.209
<v Speaker 2>was a slave patrol that came running from Wiltown Presbyterian

0:35:25.250 --> 0:35:29.959
<v Speaker 2>Church to confront Jemmy's band on Ponds Ponds Road. The

0:35:30.020 --> 0:35:32.180
<v Speaker 2>reason the men at church that day had their weapons

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:36.259
<v Speaker 2>with them is that able-bodied men in South Carolina had

0:35:36.339 --> 0:35:39.259
<v Speaker 2>to be ready to serve in the local militia, even

0:35:39.319 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 2>on a Sunday. And in response to the Stono rebellion,

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:46.860
<v Speaker 2>the planters doubled down. They increased the number of patrols

0:35:46.940 --> 0:35:50.939
<v Speaker 2>along the Stono River. They convinced the state legislature to

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:54.620
<v Speaker 2>prohibit slaves from growing their own food, learning to read,

0:35:54.779 --> 0:35:58.299
<v Speaker 2>earning money, or gathering in groups. If you are a

0:35:58.339 --> 0:36:03.640
<v Speaker 2>plantation owner and your slaves, your property, are, without warning,

0:36:03.899 --> 0:36:06.560
<v Speaker 2>going to march down the highway, killing every white person

0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 2>in sight, you and your neighbors have to be ready.

0:36:12.060 --> 0:36:13.879
<v Speaker 2>So the members of the patrol have a kind of

0:36:14.089 --> 0:36:17.750
<v Speaker 2>intimate knowledge of the workings of the area that they're

0:36:18.430 --> 0:36:20.309
<v Speaker 2>drawn from. This is the guy next door.

0:36:21.069 --> 0:36:22.729
<v Speaker 8>In fact, this is the guy next door who knows

0:36:22.810 --> 0:36:26.469
<v Speaker 8>you and knows if you're an enslaved person, knows if

0:36:26.509 --> 0:36:29.049
<v Speaker 8>you drink, if you're married, how many kids you've got,

0:36:30.310 --> 0:36:34.129
<v Speaker 8>and could probably predict whether you're likely to run away

0:36:34.169 --> 0:36:34.469
<v Speaker 8>or not.

0:36:35.350 --> 0:36:38.569
<v Speaker 2>This was the fragile system of social control that the

0:36:38.629 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 2>South created for itself in the first half of the

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<v Speaker 2>18th century. Then, in the spring of 1775, the Revolutionary

0:36:45.879 --> 0:36:53.370
<v Speaker 2>War began. The governor of Virginia, John Murray, Earl of Dunmore,

0:36:53.730 --> 0:36:57.009
<v Speaker 2>was a British appointee who intended to remain loyal to

0:36:57.049 --> 0:37:00.830
<v Speaker 2>the crown. He issued a proclamation in which he promised

0:37:00.890 --> 0:37:04.860
<v Speaker 2>freedom to any slave who wanted to join the British side.

0:37:04.879 --> 0:37:07.540
<v Speaker 2>The planters panicked.

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:11.579
<v Speaker 8>There's a tremendous amount of fear that enslaved people will

0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:14.279
<v Speaker 8>begin to learn about this, that they will take advantage

0:37:14.299 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 8>of that kind of knowledge. That's the kind of rumor

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:19.169
<v Speaker 8>that spreads like wildfire, right?

0:37:19.469 --> 0:37:19.649
<v Speaker 3>And.

0:37:20.629 --> 0:37:25.540
<v Speaker 8>It's something that is, it's not just an annoyance. It

0:37:25.580 --> 0:37:28.720
<v Speaker 8>can't be ignored. You know, if the British army shows

0:37:28.899 --> 0:37:32.800
<v Speaker 8>up in force, you know, who's going to run away?

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:36.799
<v Speaker 2>The best estimates, Haddon said, were that as many as

0:37:36.799 --> 0:37:40.850
<v Speaker 2>50,000 slaves took up Dunmore's offer and fled to the

0:37:40.890 --> 0:37:44.489
<v Speaker 2>British side. British ships started sailing up and down the

0:37:44.529 --> 0:37:50.189
<v Speaker 2>Carolina coast. The threat of more insurrections and desertions became real.

0:37:50.830 --> 0:37:55.930
<v Speaker 9>So if I own a plantation in South Carolina and

0:37:55.950 --> 0:38:01.339
<v Speaker 9>the British are sailing up and down the coast, I'm

0:38:01.379 --> 0:38:03.419
<v Speaker 9>even more anxious than I normally am.

0:38:04.020 --> 0:38:07.360
<v Speaker 8>Well, I mean, you've got reason to be. The British

0:38:07.399 --> 0:38:12.039
<v Speaker 8>attack Savannah, and then they attack Charleston. They take Charleston once.

0:38:12.500 --> 0:38:15.900
<v Speaker 8>They attack, and when they lose it, they take it again.

0:38:15.919 --> 0:38:23.180
<v Speaker 8>That's 1782. And so there are, I mean, these larger

0:38:23.359 --> 0:38:27.180
<v Speaker 8>seaport cities face the Atlantic. What's the big advantage that

0:38:27.219 --> 0:38:30.180
<v Speaker 8>the British have? Their Navy. I mean, they can basically

0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:33.570
<v Speaker 8>sail into Savannah Harbor or Charleston Harbor, open their gun ports, and,

0:38:33.589 --> 0:38:36.829
<v Speaker 8>you know, what are the Americans to do?

0:38:37.410 --> 0:38:40.789
<v Speaker 2>And who is among the most alarmed by Dunmore's proclamation?

0:38:41.790 --> 0:38:47.289
<v Speaker 2>James Madison. This is his governor, after all. Madison writes

0:38:47.330 --> 0:38:50.660
<v Speaker 2>to a friend, It is imagined our governor has been

0:38:50.739 --> 0:38:53.859
<v Speaker 2>tampering with the slaves and that he has it in

0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:57.479
<v Speaker 2>contemplation to make great use of them in case of

0:38:57.520 --> 0:39:00.700
<v Speaker 2>a civil war in this province. To say the truth,

0:39:01.359 --> 0:39:04.730
<v Speaker 2>that is the only part in which this colony is vulnerable.

0:39:05.589 --> 0:39:09.089
<v Speaker 2>And if we should be subdued, we shall fall like

0:39:09.109 --> 0:39:12.350
<v Speaker 2>Achilles by the hand of one that knows that secret.

0:39:14.669 --> 0:39:22.060
<v Speaker 2>An out-of-control slave population was the Achilles' heel of the South, the, quote,

0:39:23.219 --> 0:39:26.480
<v Speaker 2>only part in which this colony is vulnerable, end quote.

0:39:27.580 --> 0:39:37.569
<v Speaker 2>Virginia had one chance at survival, a well-regulated militia. In

0:39:37.710 --> 0:39:42.379
<v Speaker 2>June 1788, delegations from all corners of Virginia gathered in

0:39:42.419 --> 0:39:46.439
<v Speaker 2>the Richmond Theater in the state's capital. The war had

0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:49.660
<v Speaker 2>been won. All eyes were to the future, and at

0:39:49.719 --> 0:39:53.739
<v Speaker 2>issue was whether to ratify the Constitution of the brand-new

0:39:53.839 --> 0:39:58.450
<v Speaker 2>idea known as the United States of America. Virginia was

0:39:58.489 --> 0:40:01.350
<v Speaker 2>the largest and most important of all the colonies that

0:40:01.390 --> 0:40:05.150
<v Speaker 2>had just defeated the British Army. Seven of the 56

0:40:05.149 --> 0:40:09.830
<v Speaker 2>signatories to the Declaration of Independence were from Virginia. George

0:40:09.870 --> 0:40:14.730
<v Speaker 2>Washington was a Virginian. So were Thomas Jefferson, James Madison,

0:40:15.109 --> 0:40:17.709
<v Speaker 2>and James Monroe, each of whom would go on to

0:40:17.770 --> 0:40:21.750
<v Speaker 2>occupy the White House. In order to approve the Constitution,

0:40:22.270 --> 0:40:25.660
<v Speaker 2>nine of the 13 colonies needed to vote in favor.

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:30.390
<v Speaker 2>And without Virginia's approval, the movement to create a federal

0:40:30.770 --> 0:40:35.290
<v Speaker 2>United States would in all likelihood die. On one side

0:40:35.690 --> 0:40:39.889
<v Speaker 2>was James Madison, the leading Federalist of his day. Without

0:40:39.930 --> 0:40:44.060
<v Speaker 2>a strong central government, Madison thought the states would lapse

0:40:44.109 --> 0:40:48.879
<v Speaker 2>into chaos and economic dysfunction. On the other side were

0:40:48.899 --> 0:40:53.940
<v Speaker 2>the Anti-Federalists, led by the former governor of Virginia, Patrick Henry.

0:40:54.759 --> 0:40:58.350
<v Speaker 2>he of the famous revolutionary war cry, give me liberty

0:40:58.770 --> 0:41:01.950
<v Speaker 2>or give me death. Henry read the draft of the

0:41:01.989 --> 0:41:08.230
<v Speaker 2>proposed Constitution and was deeply suspicious. For 25 straight days

0:41:08.509 --> 0:41:13.729
<v Speaker 2>in 1788, almost the entire month of June, all eyes

0:41:14.060 --> 0:41:19.420
<v Speaker 2>were on the Richmond Theater. Newspapers wrote daily updates. Crowds

0:41:19.700 --> 0:41:24.060
<v Speaker 2>thronged the public galleries. Countless others gathered in the streets outside.

0:41:24.790 --> 0:41:28.029
<v Speaker 2>This is how the law professor Carl Bogus describes the

0:41:28.069 --> 0:41:29.049
<v Speaker 2>Virginia Convention.

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<v Speaker 4>It is clearly one of the most dramatic events in

0:41:37.810 --> 0:41:42.779
<v Speaker 4>the formation of the United States. With this showdown between

0:41:43.899 --> 0:41:49.700
<v Speaker 4>this collection of luminaries, the Federalist body and the Anti-Federalist body,

0:41:49.779 --> 0:41:54.090
<v Speaker 4>both staffed with among the most famous people at the time—

0:41:54.930 --> 0:41:58.849
<v Speaker 4>battling about whether they're going to ratify the Constitution, and

0:41:59.190 --> 0:42:05.870
<v Speaker 4>that itself is rare. And what makes this extraordinarily rare

0:42:06.710 --> 0:42:10.390
<v Speaker 4>is we have a transcript of it, a pretty damn

0:42:10.430 --> 0:42:15.719
<v Speaker 4>good transcript of it, which was highly unusual then. Highly,

0:42:15.819 --> 0:42:16.719
<v Speaker 4>highly unusual.

0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:21.600
<v Speaker 2>The transcript of the Richmond debates tells us exactly why

0:42:21.660 --> 0:42:25.290
<v Speaker 2>Patrick Henry and those allied with him were so dubious

0:42:25.370 --> 0:42:29.969
<v Speaker 2>of the proposed Constitution. And it tells us exactly what

0:42:30.009 --> 0:42:33.989
<v Speaker 2>James Madison said and did to win them over. How

0:42:34.009 --> 0:42:39.000
<v Speaker 2>much attention had historians paid to the Virginia ratifying convention?

0:42:42.339 --> 0:42:47.939
<v Speaker 4>Little or none. I mean, I wasn't I hadn't read it.

0:42:48.339 --> 0:42:52.419
<v Speaker 4>I don't recall reading anything about it until I went

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:55.000
<v Speaker 4>and searched it out and read it.

0:42:55.629 --> 0:42:58.450
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which is weird because, as you argue, it's an

0:42:58.489 --> 0:43:03.950
<v Speaker 2>incredibly crucial... The Constitution is hanging in the balance. What

0:43:04.049 --> 0:43:07.370
<v Speaker 2>Bogus discovered was that in the pivotal debates in the

0:43:07.430 --> 0:43:11.500
<v Speaker 2>Richmond Theatre, one issue kept coming up again and again.

0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:17.760
<v Speaker 2>The militia. Patrick Henry said, was worried that the Constitution,

0:43:18.060 --> 0:43:22.820
<v Speaker 2>as proposed, would shut down the malicious system. Everything would

0:43:22.839 --> 0:43:25.399
<v Speaker 2>now be in the hands of the federal government, a

0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:29.569
<v Speaker 2>federal government likely to be dominated by northern states that

0:43:29.609 --> 0:43:33.890
<v Speaker 2>were either hostile or indifferent to the institution of slavery.

0:43:34.989 --> 0:43:37.690
<v Speaker 2>Here's what Henry said in one of the many speeches

0:43:37.730 --> 0:43:41.490
<v Speaker 2>he gave to the ratifying convention, referring to the part

0:43:41.609 --> 0:43:46.140
<v Speaker 2>of the proposed Constitution that gave Congress sweeping powers, over

0:43:46.219 --> 0:43:51.120
<v Speaker 2>state militias. By this, sir, you see that their control

0:43:51.379 --> 0:43:56.239
<v Speaker 2>over our last and best defense is unlimited. If they

0:43:56.299 --> 0:44:00.649
<v Speaker 2>neglect or refuse to discipline or arm our militia, they

0:44:00.730 --> 0:44:04.890
<v Speaker 2>will be useless. The states can do neither, this power

0:44:04.969 --> 0:44:11.310
<v Speaker 2>being exclusively given to Congress. Our situation will be deplorable indeed.

0:44:13.660 --> 0:44:16.419
<v Speaker 2>Henry didn't need to spell out what he meant by

0:44:16.460 --> 0:44:21.339
<v Speaker 2>that word, deplorable. He was speaking to a convention full

0:44:21.359 --> 0:44:24.279
<v Speaker 2>of anxious slave owners who went to bed every night

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:28.480
<v Speaker 2>in Richmond over those 25 long days, worried sick about

0:44:28.540 --> 0:44:31.830
<v Speaker 2>the safety of their children and wives back home on

0:44:31.850 --> 0:44:38.150
<v Speaker 2>the plantation. James Madison had a mutiny on his hands.

0:44:39.169 --> 0:44:42.270
<v Speaker 2>If he wanted to save the Constitution... he needed to

0:44:42.310 --> 0:44:45.870
<v Speaker 2>find a way to win over the Virginia delegation. He

0:44:45.910 --> 0:44:49.510
<v Speaker 2>needed to reassure them that they could ratify the Constitution

0:44:50.049 --> 0:44:53.360
<v Speaker 2>without losing the armed patrol that was so essential to

0:44:53.399 --> 0:44:56.559
<v Speaker 2>keeping their slaves in line. So what did Madison do?

0:44:57.500 --> 0:45:01.839
<v Speaker 2>He wrote an amendment to the U.S. Constitution aimed squarely

0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:05.200
<v Speaker 2>at the doubters in Richmond who had spent 25 days

0:45:05.690 --> 0:45:09.930
<v Speaker 2>questioning his loyalty to his home state. One sentence said,

0:45:10.399 --> 0:45:14.009
<v Speaker 2>with a meaning his fellow Virginians could easily deduce.

0:45:15.169 --> 0:45:20.509
<v Speaker 4>The Second Amendment for him is simply about reassuring his

0:45:20.569 --> 0:45:27.860
<v Speaker 4>constituents and the South generally, but especially his constituents and

0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:36.980
<v Speaker 4>other political actors in Virginia, that the Constitution is not

0:45:37.739 --> 0:45:43.400
<v Speaker 4>handing over the northern states a tool to undermine the

0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:50.219
<v Speaker 4>slave system by emasculating our militia. And I think that's

0:45:50.419 --> 0:45:51.399
<v Speaker 4>all he was focused on.

0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:59.749
<v Speaker 2>This is not the way that gun rights activists have

0:45:59.790 --> 0:46:04.750
<v Speaker 2>interpreted the Second Amendment. They have ignored Madison's predicament in Richmond.

0:46:05.450 --> 0:46:09.120
<v Speaker 2>They have ignored the anxiety of the plantation class over

0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:12.999
<v Speaker 2>their ownership of other human beings. They have ignored the

0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:17.210
<v Speaker 2>grammatical norms of 18th century writing. The Supreme Court's final

0:46:17.430 --> 0:46:21.870
<v Speaker 2>opinion in the Heller case decided that Madison's problematic initial

0:46:21.910 --> 0:46:27.870
<v Speaker 2>being clause was merely prefatory, there only to, quote, resolve

0:46:28.089 --> 0:46:33.090
<v Speaker 2>an ambiguity in the operative clause, end quote. The opinion

0:46:33.129 --> 0:46:39.140
<v Speaker 2>went on with a shrug. But apart from that clarifying function,

0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:43.180
<v Speaker 2>a prefatory clause does not limit or expand the scope

0:46:43.739 --> 0:46:48.239
<v Speaker 2>of the operative clause, end quote. That is not an

0:46:48.379 --> 0:46:52.219
<v Speaker 2>honest reading of the evidence. But to be honest would

0:46:52.259 --> 0:46:55.759
<v Speaker 2>require acknowledging the Second Amendment for what it really is,

0:46:56.700 --> 0:47:01.640
<v Speaker 2>a grubby compromise intended to perpetuate the darkest chapter in

0:47:01.680 --> 0:47:08.330
<v Speaker 2>American history. A conversation becomes dishonest when either side avoids

0:47:08.390 --> 0:47:11.049
<v Speaker 2>the truth because it is too difficult.

0:47:11.830 --> 0:47:15.149
<v Speaker 4>If I say, close your eyes, and I say, the

0:47:16.049 --> 0:47:20.299
<v Speaker 4>Second Amendment, what image comes into your mind? I think

0:47:20.359 --> 0:47:22.719
<v Speaker 4>most people would say, it's the musket in the hands

0:47:22.759 --> 0:47:28.859
<v Speaker 4>of the Minutemen in Lexington and Concord. And I'm saying, no,

0:47:28.919 --> 0:47:35.540
<v Speaker 4>it's not. The real image that is the correct image is...

0:47:36.520 --> 0:47:39.680
<v Speaker 4>the musket in the hands of the slave patrollers.

0:47:39.149 --> 0:47:39.689
<v Speaker 6>In the South.

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<v Speaker 2>This was an excerpt from my upcoming book, The American

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<v Speaker 2>Way of Killing, The Invention of an Epidemic. You can

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<v Speaker 2>buy the print copy at whatever bookstores you frequent or

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<v Speaker 2>Way of Killing audiobook at pushkin.fm slash audiobooks or wherever

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<v Speaker 2>you get audiobooks. The audio version The cover design for

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<v Speaker 2>The American Way of Killing was done by Greg Kulik.

0:48:10.210 --> 0:48:14.310
<v Speaker 2>At Pushkin Audiobooks, the publisher is Nicole Optenbosch. The associate

0:48:14.330 --> 0:48:38.379
<v Speaker 2>publisher is as Jasmine Faustino, and the director of narrative

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<v Speaker 2>projects for Pushkin is Jacob Smith. The song Troubles that

0:48:42.960 --> 0:48:45.180
<v Speaker 2>you hear throughout the book was written by Drew Holcomb,

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<v Speaker 2>by Drew Holcomb and the Neighbors, courtesy of Magnolia Music.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Malcolm Gladwell.