1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: No worry, are not so hit? 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 2: Question? 3 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 3: When was what was the record when you you felt 4 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 3: like nobody can't fuck with me? 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 4: True? The newest shit off in the drop like the 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 4: latest shit is my greatest ship. That's you feel you 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like I saw that's the zone 8 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 4: I'm in period right now. I feel like, I mean, 9 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 4: you know, I've had certain people hit me like bro, 10 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 4: you like the most versatile nigga the game that really 11 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 4: ever seen it. It's just been a development thing. But 12 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I just feel like where I'm 13 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 4: at right now, my latest is my greatest Man. 14 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 5: You felt like artists went to you in the beginning 15 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 5: more on the let me go to him for my single? 16 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 5: Or the parashit and what was the Drake single? The 17 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 5: trophy trophies, like they went to you on that way. 18 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 5: And now I feel like you only do albums with 19 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 5: people like it's tough to get one off with you. 20 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 4: I mean I just did Don Tolliver single, only did 21 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 4: one on his album. He got a number one album 22 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 4: right now, So it's like I still do the ship. 23 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 4: But certain artists, when they really come through and they 24 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 4: see what I'm doing, They're like, no, I can't leave you. 25 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 4: I gotta stay. Like look at you know Na's first Grammy, 26 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 4: you know, come around, just fucking around, bro, were just 27 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 4: having fun with this ship, and I'm just trying to 28 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 4: allow them to like to still be then. Whether it's Sean, 29 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 4: whether it's not whoever I'm working with, just do you 30 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 4: to the max. I'm gonna do me, nigga. We both 31 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 4: know we're good. Like this shit gonna go somewhere period. 32 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 4: That's how I look at it. 33 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: What you prefer though? Do you like getting into one? 34 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 4: I like to make music, bro, I can't even call 35 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 4: it tolor. 36 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 5: Who fucking album? You think I wouldn't like? 37 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, crazy melodies baring none. I had ten songs with 38 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 4: the nigga at one point they was talking about using 39 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 4: six of them. They only use one. That's how the 40 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 4: game going. That's what you just gotta take and stride. 41 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 4: Like before, when I was the younger me would have 42 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 4: been probably some way like oh, these nigga's gonna tell 43 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 4: me the whole all these beats and they don't use 44 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 4: them Like it don't matter though, Like make what you can, 45 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 4: nigga and keep keep it pushing, bro. 46 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 5: But with that strategy of like working with the younger 47 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 5: artists like Don Tolliver and then also working with NAS. 48 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 5: Do you switch in the mode of all right, I'm 49 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 5: kind of Yoda to the younger guys, but Nas is 50 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 5: Nas to you. It's a different approach and how to 51 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 5: make those records and where to overstep and when not 52 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 5: to say certain things or let people do shit and 53 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 5: be like, yo, let me show you how to make 54 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 5: this record. 55 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like I feel like even new 56 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 4: artists they might have, they got damn there more confidence 57 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 4: than the Ogs because they don't give a fuck. They 58 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 4: think everything they do is stadium Marina level shit, which 59 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 4: is beautiful for me because I'm working with niggas who 60 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 4: got records that's popping now, and I'm like, damn, these 61 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 4: niggas come in to the studio like, yeah, nigga, this 62 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 4: shit out of here off first rip, and I'm working 63 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 4: with the Ogs and they'd be like, hold, let's think 64 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 4: this shit out a little bit. So it's a nice 65 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 4: balance to see both sides. And I just got man, 66 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 4: so much knowledge, bro like to apply to both sides 67 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 4: from this shit because I can take the energy of 68 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 4: you know, a young nigga that to come in and 69 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 4: do three songs in an hour versus a nigga who 70 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 4: like Fin to write out all the lyrics and make 71 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 4: sure every line perfect, Like I could balance that shit out. 72 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: Did you learn working with a legend like Nas? 73 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: Like, what was something you learned creatively that you took 74 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 3: from Nas and the way he creates and added it 75 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 3: to the way you create? 76 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 4: Man? A whole lot, Bro, a whole lot. But to 77 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 4: be like, be super intentional about everything that you're saying, 78 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 4: like like, make sure the shit is facts, make sure 79 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 4: the shit is solid information. And going back listening to 80 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 4: I mean I was young when Nas was you know 81 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 4: what I'm saying first coming out and shit fucking didn't 82 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 4: even imagine me making music. But going back here and shit, 83 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, he always been this critical thinker. He 84 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 4: always been like he doing this on the past and 85 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 4: able to put it in context and guide you through 86 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 4: that shit. It's just crazy, man. So I don't know, 87 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 4: I just I learned plenty from Bro. 88 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: So you you actually went back and started like listening 89 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: to a lot of his old ship once you started 90 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 3: creating with him, Yeah, for. 91 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 4: Sure, that felp. Man, Like when we was doing the 92 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 4: first Kids Disease. I remember just one day just listening 93 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 4: to all the intros from all his albums and just 94 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 4: like making sure that, like the energy, what he was saying, 95 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 4: what I was doing on the production was gonna make sense. 96 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah, this ship line up like this 97 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 4: where he had in life. Now he not fucking twenty 98 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 4: some years old. He is however old he is, and 99 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 4: I just got to let him do him And I'm 100 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 4: a compliment that shit. 101 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 5: I feel like we're not And I don't know Nas, 102 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 5: but just from watching him my entire life, I feel 103 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 5: like NAS probably don't really fuck with people like that. 104 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: And I don't mean that a bad way. NA He's not. 105 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 5: He don't have so even exactly, but even when he 106 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 5: didn't have to, I feel like Na's probably just still 107 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 5: didn't fuck with people, Like he kind of kept to 108 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 5: himself and did what he wanted to do. 109 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 4: But when he fucked with you, he fucked you, bro, 110 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 4: Like then came to my mom birthday parties and shit 111 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 4: like that, Like it's like niggas in the game. Niggas 112 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 4: that's like super in my age group that won't even 113 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 4: do that. He Like, Nah, I really fun with this nigga. 114 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 4: He see the he see the energy and the serious 115 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 4: niggas the time I'm putting into very thing we're doing. 116 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 4: So he like, man like, I'm really about to embrace 117 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 4: this guy, which is is beautiful bro to see. But 118 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 4: it makes from personality though, Like because I also feel 119 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 4: like even if you have the hottest speaks now, I 120 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 4: still wouldn't sit and do an album with you, Like 121 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 4: was there some type of oh yeah, strain connection that 122 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 4: you'll hit because of course the music is great on 123 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 4: both sides. 124 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: What's the one sure? 125 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 4: Right? Yeah? Of course I get along with virgo niggas, 126 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 4: like my nigga Chasing Cash started the surf club ship 127 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 4: came up in that ship man Like, I don't know, 128 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 4: I just always got along. I get along with two 129 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 4: chains that nigga virgo too, Like it's just something I 130 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 4: guess creatively, I just connect with them the type of people. 131 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 3: You know, we ain't ain't we ain't really with the 132 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: gossip ship, right, But so when that when the Yea 133 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 3: album came out, and I wanted to text you about this, 134 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: but I was like, when I see, I just talked 135 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 3: to him, you had some some some interesting things to 136 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 3: say and to be fair. I understood what you were 137 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 3: saying and kicking it with you. I'm like, it is 138 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: not You're not the guy that's gonna say something for 139 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: clickbait shit, like if you say something because you really 140 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 3: feel that way being honest. I just think that cameras 141 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 3: were around and she got out, and but you said 142 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 3: some things. 143 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: It was like a private you know. 144 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: I know, like looking at it, I was like, he's 145 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 3: gonna be sick that this this came out because you're 146 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 3: not that type of guy. But you said some things 147 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 3: that was interesting and from the look on your. 148 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 2: Face, I know you that that's like you. 149 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 3: I wish that never got out because it was a real, honest, 150 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 3: vulnerable moment that you was trying to have. Bro. 151 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 4: So I woke up. What was good with it? I 152 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 4: woke up at like six in the morning after the 153 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 4: release party. Nigga blitz from the night before. First thing 154 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 4: I see because I always take my emails when I 155 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 4: get up, I click on my ship. That's an email 156 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 4: from jay Z. Bro. That's the first thing I see. 157 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 5: I was like, before I even helped it. 158 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 4: First sendence in the fucking email was I saw your speech? Yeah, 159 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 4: I'm like, dangn He's like, Bro, you you ain't even 160 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 4: got to do all that, man, like you got it. 161 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 4: This ship Hard, I fucked with the album. Just you talented, 162 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 4: just stay humble type ship. It was just that type 163 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 4: of ship, big bros. That's what I respected. I hit 164 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 4: him back. I was like, man, that's one thousand. I 165 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 4: was like, man, the crazy shit is. I was like, man, 166 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 4: if this ship get out, I was like, I know, 167 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 4: Hove gonna see this and just shake his head. 168 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: He understands. 169 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 3: He's had his moments at that age too where it 170 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 3: was like you wish you could take that back, but 171 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 3: you know, you said things and it was kind of 172 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: I think you. It regonated with a lot of people. 173 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 3: It was like just give us the music, no for know. 174 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 4: I mean, I mean I just was in that moment. 175 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 4: I was like I said, I was blitzed off the 176 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 4: handy or whatever the fuck bro, And I just I 177 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 4: just was like, man, I just felt I just felt 178 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 4: compelled to be like man, bro like this ship hard. 179 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 4: It just really beat us in the studio and I'm online, 180 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 4: I'm seeing Hooplin, I'm seeing Niggas is just doing all 181 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 4: type of shit. That shit cool, but like, who was 182 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 4: really making what that's all I was saying, what. 183 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: Do we really care about? 184 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 5: But even with that type of ship, because I've a 185 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 5: thousand times, especially on a podcast for fucking five years, 186 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 5: I've said a bunch of shit that I meant. I 187 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 5: was just mad the way I said it and it 188 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 5: came across and how it was presented. But I hasn't 189 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 5: get to realize after. I'm still happy I got it out. 190 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 5: I'm glad it came out. It was a reason I 191 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 5: could now move forward and realize I shouldn't get drunk 192 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 5: on camera and just say some wild shit. It's idea 193 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 5: you still I am glad you got that ship out 194 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 5: because I felt what you were saying that entire thing, 195 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 5: especially at that time because we sat and I'm someone 196 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 5: that I like Donna. I think it's a good album. 197 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 5: I still hated how long that shit was. It's like, 198 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 5: are we caring about the music at this point? Because 199 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 5: this shit is dragging? Now we're just doing a master 200 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 5: class on rollouts and bullshit, And yeah, ain't that one 201 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 5: for me? I need the music. If that was a month, 202 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 5: I would have been cool with it. Shit just dragged, 203 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 5: like so when you said it, I was like, I'm 204 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 5: glad somebody somebody said that mattered in's life set it. 205 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I got a lot of people that 206 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 4: hit me and was like you like, you know, Yaker 207 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 4: buy your whole life. Just ain't got enough money with 208 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 4: all this. You got real people. That's like, man, nig 209 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 4: gotta feel you, bro. So it's like I'm just leaning 210 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 4: on that. Whether I don't even take you know, the 211 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 4: good compliments or the negative ship no type of way. 212 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 4: I just like all it with a grain of salt, 213 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 4: like it is what it is. That's how you feel 214 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 4: the way to look at it. But like you know, 215 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 4: that ship just was perspective man, like it's always gonna 216 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 4: be fifty fifty. Some niggas gonna love it. You gotta 217 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 4: just keep doing you. 218 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 3: You had a he was playing some records in there 219 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 3: a couple months ago. He was playing the joints with 220 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: that you did with Freddie and uh Big Sean you 221 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 3: are You're like in the You're like the guy now 222 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 3: because I think a lot of your best ship is 223 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: from people that you really. 224 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 2: Fucked with on a personal level. Yeah, you know what I. 225 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 3: Mean, Like I think that that's something that I've been 226 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 3: noticing with you, like is that something that you try 227 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: to do, like if I got a connection with whoever 228 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 3: we try to get something done, or is it just 229 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 3: something that you're like, fucking let's. 230 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 4: Just thinking about it right now. I mean I feel 231 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 4: like if you come to me and you got this 232 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 4: idea in your head of like, oh, I need some 233 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 4: shit that sounds like it's already in the top ten, 234 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 4: Like I need a record that sound like this or 235 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 4: some shit like that, It's probably not gonna work out 236 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 4: with somebody like me because I literally just create song 237 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 4: by songs, bro, and try to just max out and 238 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 4: make that song the best it could be. Certain people 239 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 4: they can't hear past, like if that shit don't come 240 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 4: on it sounds like what or fucking whatever, some simple 241 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 4: easy shit that a nigga could just hop on and 242 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 4: win with, you know which I mean I do have simple, 243 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 4: easy joints too, But at the same time, bro, I'm 244 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 4: always trying to push it. Like every beat coming from 245 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 4: me pretty much gonna sound different. 246 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 3: Right the half a mil with Dom Sir. I love 247 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 3: the end of Hills joint that y'all did with Quentin. 248 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 4: That was energy right there. 249 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 3: But are we gonna get back to that because I 250 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 3: feel like it's a space for that, you know what 251 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 3: I'm saying. I feel like that ship that y'all was doing, 252 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 3: that was almost like y'all was creating a soundtrack for 253 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 3: like the summers in La Nah. 254 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 4: That's crazy, bro, because at that point in my life, 255 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 4: I was living in Beverly Hills. I had this crib, 256 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 4: this stupid crib. I was living there. Don't look right 257 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 4: before I had my son. A couple of years for 258 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 4: I have my son. That was like that was that 259 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 4: was that was the turn of like you had the 260 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 4: stupid vacation backyard and I just was in that energy 261 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 4: so making in the Hills and the joints. We was 262 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 4: really in that, bro like it was it. 263 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 2: Was some dope mission. 264 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 5: That's domb already. Yeah, yeah, West, I would love one 265 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 5: to yellow album. 266 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 4: He talked to the females on his ship man like 267 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 4: it's new joint. 268 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 3: I'm fucking with man. That sound good, sound good. But 269 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 3: I like that half a mial shit. I liked them 270 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 3: I was doing. And Quentin, for whatever reason, I was 271 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 3: just talking to one of the homies about this, like 272 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 3: he was black ball and everybody kind of not fucking 273 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: with him, which I'm like I don't think Quentin ever 274 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 3: did anything wrong. 275 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 4: Nah, I mean really the serious rulee, how shit got 276 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 4: out or whatever the ship was. I just know that 277 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 4: like that niggas, he's a solid motherfucker like a with 278 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 4: Quinton on a personal level. He put up on me 279 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 4: last night. That's just my dog like he just come 280 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 4: kick it, like, let me hear what you got. Let 281 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 4: me that bro. I'm gonna say this own record, Quintin Miller, 282 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 4: one of the coldest niggas in this ship with. 283 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 2: You on that. You know what I'm saying with you 284 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 2: on that. 285 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 5: But when you're working with people that's that's bigger than you, 286 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 5: and it's not even a Drake or Meek thing. It's 287 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 5: just that situation and all that energy that came, somebody 288 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 5: needed to be the pawn. And I don't mean that 289 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 5: in a disrespectful way, but somebody needed to take the 290 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 5: blame off all the bigger people that are over you 291 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 5: and put it on somebody. And that's the unfortunate part 292 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 5: that I feel bad for quitting in that whole situation, 293 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 5: because he had to be the sacrificial lamb somehow, because 294 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 5: even I don't think I don't think Drake was mad 295 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 5: at him, and I really don't think me was mad, 296 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 5: but somebody. 297 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 4: Had record say this to me to cut you off. 298 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 4: I think Drake should do a song with Quintin. I 299 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 4: mean he might not ever, especially after he's saying this ship, 300 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 4: but he should do that. That ship would be hard. 301 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 4: That would be some real nigga ship. 302 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 3: Quinn is talented, man, you know. Like I said, I 303 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 3: know that whole situation has laid us to it. But 304 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 3: from what I know, I guess with the rest of 305 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 3: the general public knows. I don't see what Quintin did 306 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 3: wrong in that instance, you know what I'm saying. Like, 307 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 3: I know it's other hands involved in that or whatever, 308 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 3: but that was. 309 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 4: A ship like where Drake was like, nigga, don't fucking 310 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 4: play these references. You know what I'm saying. I don't 311 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 4: know that in and out of that, so I can't 312 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 4: speak on that. But I'm just speaking off of how 313 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 4: I know Quinn. He is solid, motherfucker, real nigga. 314 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: He comes across like he's a solid dude. 315 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 5: The Quentin ship with Meek and Drake both getting mad 316 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 5: at him, that's like the equivalent of when your girl 317 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 5: cheat on you, you mad at. 318 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: The dude right like, ain't do nothing wrong. He did 319 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: his business. 320 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 3: She's telling him, she's telling him she's single, Like you 321 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 3: know what I mean, you don't know, went. 322 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 5: In there to help that on some records and minded 323 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 5: his business, put out a statement and saying, Yo, I 324 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 5: love everybody. And now all of a sudden he getting 325 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 5: beat up in a foot locker store or some ship, 326 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 5: and now Drake mad dissing him too. 327 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: It's like, all right, man, working with Drake? 328 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: Is that to you right now? 329 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 3: Because obviously Drake is probably the biggest artist in music 330 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 3: right now. 331 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 4: Nigga just he just do numbers like it's fucking nothing. Bro. 332 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 4: It's crazy to see I knew that niggas is my space, bro, 333 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 4: Like you know me, bro, like real talking about like 334 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 4: talking to this nigga on BlackBerry Message or whatever that 335 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 4: shit was back in the day, him wrapping Surf Club, 336 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 4: all that ship like matter of fact, got g right 337 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 4: right here. This nigga did laugh. Man, come say what 338 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 4: a nigga? 339 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: Yep, what's up? You right? 340 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 4: Produced fucking TJ single? That what's the ship? You did 341 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 4: call on my phone? 342 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: Man? 343 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 4: All that ship we've been down since he knew Drake's 344 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 4: his way back to through Chase. I met him through Chase. 345 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 4: They used to always come to my cribby Fontana and 346 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 4: niggas just cook. Bro, just go on in to see 347 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 4: this guy. You know what I'm saying, Go to where 348 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 4: he's going. 349 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 3: This shit is insane, but that's dope that you still 350 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 3: keep that, you know what I mean? 351 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 4: Energy, Yeah, you guys get going these motherfuckers. 352 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: This was around the poleo the Donde's. 353 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 4: Or this was before that really or like yeah, just 354 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 4: like right around the same ship because we was I 355 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 4: was like one year out of high school in the 356 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 4: Polo shit. So I've met him right there. I feel 357 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 4: like before was signing our deal. 358 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: I feel like people don't get Pollo that credit. 359 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 4: Nah Polo. I ain't gonna lie, Bro, Polo is stupid 360 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 4: inspiration man, and I've seen it firsthand. Like I'm nineteen 361 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 4: and I'm in the studio with this nigga and Usher 362 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 4: pulling up Seer, pulling up Fergy, pulling up fucking pussy 363 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 4: cat dolls. I'm seeing all this ship and I'm like 364 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 4: this niggas at the top, top top. He ain't just 365 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 4: sitting here with some some local trap motherfuckers. I'm i 366 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 4: can't add crazy shit, Bro, no cap. I came to 367 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 4: this studio Nigga in two thousand and six for Fontana. 368 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 4: I had a Alexis sc four hundred I was I 369 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 4: was eighteen or nineteen. I was nineteen at the time. 370 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 4: I drove to Challis Bro and he was in here 371 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 4: with Sean Garrett. Sean Garrett just wrote Summer Walker new single. 372 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 4: They was in here working on pussy Chad Dolls, Bro, 373 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 4: and that shit is just wild too full circle. I'm 374 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 4: in this more, fucking this, this my home now, I'm 375 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 4: in here fucking first two years in this studio. I 376 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 4: want Grammy's this my third year. If we get nominated 377 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 4: this year, I'll take that. But I would love to win. 378 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to win three grand. 379 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 4: Three nominations in a row. 380 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: It's crazy. 381 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Actually this would before Gasico Mo. It was 382 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 4: lost the year before in the racks in the middle. 383 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 3: So you definitely have a like looking at your discography, 384 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 3: you have an interesting like not many people could say 385 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 3: they worked with Beyonce Travis Scott, you know what I mean. 386 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: Like it's just like that Big Sean. 387 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 3: It's just like you make music that really doesn't sound 388 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 3: like just one particular person. I think you can create 389 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 3: shit that forces creatives to be like, oh, I want 390 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 3: to try that, because even when Nas like the knock 391 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 3: on him, his whole career was people didn't like his 392 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,719 Speaker 3: beat selection, they didn't like the way his music sounded, 393 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 3: the production. 394 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 4: It's crazy to me because that nigga got classics. But 395 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 4: I can feel what you're saying when it comes to 396 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 4: buy a body of work, and maybe some of the 397 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 4: beats just like was overpowered with how he raps. He 398 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 4: raps with a lot of knowledge, a lot of words, 399 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 4: So you need a bead of music that can allow 400 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 4: him to breathe on that ship, you know what I'm saying, 401 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 4: and you don't get overpowered by the beat and the 402 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 4: lyrics at the same time. I think that's just the confusion. 403 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 4: I don't think it was whack beats. I think it's 404 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 4: just has had to really lock in. 405 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's been sounds when has picked wack 406 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 5: beats like every other artist whatever. But I've never really 407 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 5: never understood meye because I am a nod standing that degree. 408 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 5: I kind of hated that stereotype that one person said 409 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 5: it and it just continued on. The Nas is the 410 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,959 Speaker 5: worst beat. Yeah, he's picked some bad ones, but who 411 00:17:54,000 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 5: the fuck he also has thirteen hours. 412 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 3: Like a lot of booth want a lot of niggas. 413 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, like yeah, he went anybody to look at the 414 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 5: era that he was trying to navigate through too, Like 415 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 5: you went from that early early nineties to habbing to 416 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 5: navigate through the puff bad boy era. 417 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: So whole picture. 418 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 5: At that time, nas had to pick bad beat like 419 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 5: he was navigating, so no one really puts that jelity. 420 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 5: Like niggas had to be outside for real and had 421 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 5: to be moving around to see what was going on. 422 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 5: Like you couldn't just hop on YouTube and be like, oh, 423 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 5: this is cracking in Florida, this ship cracking it Like 424 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 5: it wasn't none of that nigga. 425 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 4: Oh we had to fly down there and we went 426 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 4: to a festival or a college show, you know what 427 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 4: I'm saying. In the South. Oh, we learned about this 428 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 4: these niggas is cracking. We got to do a song 429 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 4: with them, like it ain't it ain't. It's like, man, 430 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 4: this ship. 431 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 3: Even recorded, Like even the way that artists record music 432 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 3: together now, like most of the time back in the day, 433 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 3: you had to be in the studio together so you 434 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 3: build that energy. 435 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: Now, you could just send it emails. 436 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 4: When his first Grammy nigga in the studio together, I 437 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 4: didn't fucking send him beats to New York. That niggas 438 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 4: was like this where you at? This where you working? 439 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 4: I'm finna pull up. It's really that simple, Bro, Niggas 440 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 4: be thinking about this shit too much trying. I'm not 441 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 4: on no industry shit, bro, I just make music. I'm 442 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 4: just a real nigga that came up off this ship 443 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 4: because I put the work. 444 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 5: In speaking of and to try to like kind of 445 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 5: change directions on this. Have you been following a lot 446 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 5: of the artists selling their catalog to whatever that virus? 447 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? For sure. I mean I didn't had three four 448 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 4: people approach me like talking about numbers and shit. But 449 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 4: I ain't. I ain't. You know, I got some records. 450 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 4: I feel like, shit, if I hold on these, I'm 451 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 4: gonna be good. 452 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 5: So I'm curious because I had when that first report 453 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 5: came out, like when the Dream was selling it, I 454 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 5: forgot who else was. I was like, damn, why would 455 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 5: they sell their catalog? That makes no sense to me. 456 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 5: Ownership is the greatest thing everything that we're taught and understand. 457 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 5: I started to look at that shit from a different 458 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 5: angle as of recent because I've been keeping my eye. 459 00:19:58,440 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: On that ship. 460 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 5: I know it because be super training, because a lot 461 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 5: of people are doing quietly, and I was like, something's coming. 462 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 5: And then I saw nothing was really happening right away, 463 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 5: And I was thinking to myself, all right, if I 464 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 5: could grab a hundred mil liquid in this era, and 465 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 5: I could know my kids could take a hundred mil liquid, 466 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 5: or I could I have something I want to invest 467 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 5: in outside of music right now, and I got liquid cash, 468 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 5: that might be the better option than my estate and 469 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 5: my kids and my grandkids trying to chase down a 470 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 5: streaming service to get my five grand a month. So 471 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 5: maybe the liquid money might be better. 472 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 4: Did y'all hear about Tina Turner? 473 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 2: Oh? 474 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 4: I don't even know if this is outer of just 475 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 4: some shit I should be talking about. But she saw 476 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 4: her likeness and ship and all that shit for like 477 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 4: fifty mili. She should have got more. Right, absolutely, turn 478 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 4: But you think of youying wax museums, right. 479 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 5: But I've just watched in this business how hardless sometimes 480 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 5: to track down your money, even if you own your likeness, 481 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 5: your money, your catalog, everything, and you start getting in 482 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 5: with lawyers and it's like, all right, we're down to 483 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 5: half a penny on a stream, Yo, I might take 484 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 5: that fucking hundred mil or that fifty mil for my 485 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 5: likeness and give liquid money to my kids, not some 486 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 5: shit they may have to chase the fuck down. 487 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 4: That's great. 488 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 3: It sounds good owning your masters and your cattle. But 489 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, but the way they cutting this dope 490 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 3: right now, fam, I don't know what this is gonna be. 491 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 4: Want to know, we don't know what's for in twenty years, 492 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Game, it's changing rapidly and 493 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 4: we just we don't understand, like what's gonna happen next. 494 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 4: But I feel that man getting the fucking extra forty 495 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 4: to fifty mil, that shit don't sound bad at all. 496 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 5: Because because that's something you could legitimately pass down and 497 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 5: your kids won't have to chase it down. 498 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 4: Exactly, because I see I see. 499 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 5: The biggest artists chasing down streaming services to get their 500 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 5: own money and money to them. 501 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: That's that's light. 502 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 5: They just do it off principal off GP, like give 503 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 5: me the money you owe me, Hell yeah, I'll sell 504 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 5: this shit for one hundred million ere It took me 505 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 5: a while to get that prospect because I was sitting 506 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 5: there like, you know, dream is one of the greatest 507 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 5: writers ever. He's worth more money than his catalog is 508 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 5: worth way more money than this in my head, right, 509 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 5: But then you got to look. 510 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 4: At I got thirty more bombs for the drop, like fuck, 511 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 4: you know, I'm finna sell this ship. That's man, I'm 512 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 4: fu I'm fucking with it for show. But it just 513 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 4: got to make sense on my. 514 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 5: What I mean, would you really consider I want to 515 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 5: ask of course I want to ask you a number 516 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 5: because that's weird. But is that something that that has 517 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 5: crossed your mind with seeing all that? Because I know 518 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 5: more it's happening behind the scenes more than public of 519 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 5: people selling their catalogs. 520 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 4: Like I said, I had conversations with people, but I 521 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 4: just like, I don't know, I'm sewing the zone right now. 522 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 4: It's like like I'm definitely just yeah, like I'm like 523 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna up. I'm going up, you know, 524 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 4: not the time I think about that. If I was 525 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 4: going down right now, I'll probably be like, yeah, I'm. 526 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 2: Finna get this ship. You gotta entertaining thing. 527 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 3: I like the fact you posted the a picture clip 528 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 3: of the verses that you and boy wanted did and 529 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 3: he was like, yo, just crazy. 530 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 2: How far bro? 531 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 4: That ship blew my mom. Nigga like that ship was 532 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 4: like a fight. Like I was like, bro, even the 533 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 4: ship because I was I was in here with no 534 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 4: I was just chopping it vibe. He like, man, let's 535 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 4: watch this versus ship. And it took me a minute 536 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 4: to figure this ship out, bro, which verson wasn't to 537 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 4: down the k R S and uh and came like 538 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 4: I had to download the app, put my credit card. 539 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 4: I'm like ship right, yeah, nigga, I'm buying this. 540 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: I was on this. 541 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 2: Yeah that's crazy, but you got y'all got a piece 542 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 2: of that though, right. 543 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, they gave us a piece of feral techniques and lights. 544 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 4: I'm like, wow, they did it right. KRS was out 545 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 4: there going dummy. I heard inside it was a different 546 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 4: ship watching it. Niggas was like k R S. I 547 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 4: liked his energy. 548 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 3: Cars one is you know that if you know that 549 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 3: hip hop and that legacy, that's that's he's coach gangster. 550 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,719 Speaker 4: And I didn't realize that, Like it sounds like uh 551 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 4: dre studied his sound. W A was kind of low 552 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 4: key birth from listening to his ship. Nigga rapped like 553 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 4: an East Coast ice Cube. To me, some niggas might 554 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 4: be like what you talking about, but that nigga ice 555 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 4: one of them. I think ice Cube must have studied him. 556 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 4: I don't know who came. Definitely, that's what I'm saying. 557 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: Like everybody, this. 558 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 4: Nigga raped just like Cube. I'm from the West Coast, 559 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 4: so I'm more familiar obviously with ce voice in his songs. 560 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 5: But a fun with KRS so BDP wasn't for play play. 561 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 5: Christ is a nice guy now. 562 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 2: Much older and more mature. You had you had a 563 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 2: did you do? You feel like you? 564 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 3: And Boy wanted should get back in the ring now, 565 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 3: just because it's a big to say that. 566 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 4: Man, Bro, you're going so stupid, you gotta get back 567 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 4: in that versus ship. I mean Boy wanted to already 568 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 4: say he don't want to do it, I do it 569 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 4: verse somebody else, just on some fun ship. Just like 570 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 4: see how these new records work out. 571 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 5: Because it's not even a badle no more, it's like 572 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 5: a perform The sound was shitty with y'all because it 573 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 5: was I and a lot of your ship and not 574 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 5: to say that's a different crazy bro how fast ship progress, 575 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 5: not even to be on some versus ship, but the 576 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 5: JD Puff ship that came up. J JD's why I 577 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 5: have to ask your opinion on this because I feel 578 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 5: JD in the sense and I've been on records saying 579 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 5: to me, outside of Quincy Jones, Puff as the greatest 580 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 5: ear in music world history. My I love Puff, but 581 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 5: I feel JD's stance on saying, all right, there's a 582 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 5: difference here. You're a producer. I'm a beat maker, writer 583 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 5: and producer. If we were to do a versus, tell 584 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 5: me what you really did on that. And that's not 585 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 5: to take anything away from Puff because he definitely put 586 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 5: them records together, but different it's a different type of 587 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 5: ship that JD did that I could see if I'm 588 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 5: JD not getting that ring. 589 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: Put us both in the studio, just us and let's 590 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: come out and see. 591 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 4: Feeling too for real. Like it's like, man, I'll be 592 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 4: seeing these lists top fifty, top whatever, like yeah, come on, bro, 593 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 4: some of these niggas, you know, disrespect, but niggas I 594 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 4: look at the business man like niggas hire producers to 595 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 4: do ship for them delegate like it'd be like niggas 596 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 4: don't even add nothing. Like even if I do co 597 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 4: produce with some some niggas that might be signing me 598 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 4: or to my homies, I'm gonna really go in and 599 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 4: fucking put the man hours into the ship. I'm gonna 600 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 4: be with the artists putting the time into the bars, 601 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 4: adding production. Some niggas be getting put over me. 602 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 5: It can't even fucking show up to the studio by theyself. 603 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 5: That's a ridiculous thing. So I get where JD is 604 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 5: coming from, Like, Nigga, I'm finna blow this NPC up? 605 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 3: What what what? 606 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 4: What you fit to do? Like you know what I'm saying, 607 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 4: that's no disrespect to put foot. 608 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 3: Don't worry if I write rhymes, I write checks period. 609 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 3: And then JD was, I don't know about y'all, but 610 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 3: every night I know the money and thing. I write 611 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 3: the songs that the whole world sing. I don't know 612 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 3: about y'all, but every night I swing in it for. 613 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 2: So it's just like it's just different musical geniuses. Like 614 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 2: makes it cool. 615 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 3: Puff gives it that lifestyle, He gives it that gloss 616 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 3: that works, you know, But yeah, he's gonna build it 617 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 3: from the ground up and really make like music I've 618 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 3: never seen kind. 619 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 4: Of make a beat. 620 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 5: But the nigga could get Beyonce Drake and fucking Jayson 621 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 5: on the song right now. 622 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 4: It's all that's insane to me. That's beautiful, Like he 623 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 4: got something that he cultivated. 624 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 5: Energy he can get in the studio and inspire the 625 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 5: artists enough to want to fuck with some ship. 626 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 4: He fucking with that ship? 627 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 2: Is that sh makes you believe it. 628 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 5: If Kali didn't blow up to what Khaled is now, 629 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 5: Khalid would have been one of the greatest A and 630 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 5: rs of all time. She would have stayed behind the scenes, 631 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 5: it just been himself. KLi would have been one of 632 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 5: the greatest an rs ever. 633 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,959 Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like you still got to put 634 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 4: him up there because I put. 635 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 5: Him with that and much more because he's done much more. 636 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 5: He has really become that person that really puts those 637 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 5: albums together and puts his face on him and he's 638 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 5: one of the best promoters I've ever seen in my 639 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 5: entire life, one of the best marketers. But if he 640 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 5: would have just been his ear and that's it, that's 641 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 5: all he ever had and stay behind the scenes. 642 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 4: Kalid, I think still would have been straight. Now that's 643 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 4: that's turn it into a brand, like niggas love just 644 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 4: watching him do anything, cut up a piece of lobster, 645 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 4: Like you're watching that. 646 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 3: Ship entertainment Entertainment. Who's one of the producers right now? 647 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 3: That every time you hear him, it like it. 648 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 4: Pushes you, like this, Damn boy Wonder, DJ Dhi T 649 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 4: Minus mother fucking g ride my Nigga g Dave. That's 650 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 4: the Homies BC. Mother fucking yeah. That's yeah, like for 651 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 4: show for show, the first three niggas I name is 652 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 4: like when they be putting out a lot of ship. 653 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 4: When I hear that ship, I'm like, damn. I I 654 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 4: had DJ do he yesterday off the Maxo album. I 655 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 4: did a song on Maxo Cream album and he did 656 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 4: some ship on there. I'm like, and it's funny because 657 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 4: I didn't even read the credits. I'm in my card 658 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 4: just playing then album. I'm like, every beat coming on 659 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 4: every song, I'm like, this ship, bro, every song fucking 660 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 4: with it. You get to this one, whichever one die 661 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 4: he got did, I'm like this shit different, bro. I'm 662 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 4: like I don't really hear beats that much where I'm like, 663 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 4: damn that ship, that's ship. I was like, this might 664 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 4: be die he so going wikipedia lookda he die? He 665 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 4: hit that nigga like you spa on that showing love. 666 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 4: It's funny like how niggas are like not show love 667 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 4: to me, but it's like, I still don't give a fuck, nigga. 668 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 4: I show love to everybody, bro. 669 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 3: But you know that'saying security coming from you know, peers 670 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 3: that they because you're obviously it's no you're the guy 671 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 3: right now. And that comes with it where you know, 672 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 3: because again people may feel like they're better than you, 673 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 3: and they make better records, they produce better, they snares 674 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 3: are better, like you know, producers, y'all real like bump 675 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 3: ass drums. 676 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 2: He got like you know y'all do like that comes 677 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 2: with it. That insecurity comes with it. 678 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 3: It's like everybody obviously knows you're talented, but people have 679 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 3: a hard time expressing it because they feel like, you know, 680 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 3: it's just supposed to be competitive. And I can't he 681 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 3: can't see me sweat, he can't see me blink. 682 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 2: It's kind of like I gotta keep a poker face. 683 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 4: I've been there before two though, so I get it. Yeah, 684 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 4: but it's like at this point, man, we just all 685 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 4: just making music. Bro, this ship all pushing the next 686 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 4: nigga to do some fire ship like this shit beautiful 687 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 4: to see. 688 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 5: Man, Well we found out I'd hit you to sit 689 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 5: down right before I even seen the Sean Lenkers freestyle 690 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 5: which assumed smoke she was sitting next to him. That's 691 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 5: Shawn freestyle by Sean Standards was crazy. Sewan Standards are great. 692 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 2: Pitched them off. Man, what happened? 693 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 5: Man? 694 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,479 Speaker 4: Honestly, he just he be. We talk every day, bro, 695 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 4: and just the his energy is just like, man, nah bro, 696 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 4: like this ship gotta be at the at the top. 697 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 4: If it ain't at the top, then nigga we not 698 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 4: where we need to be. Blink. And it's like that 699 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 4: shit inspired to me, like that nigga, that nigga living good, 700 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Like niggas is out here 701 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 4: living and it's like to still be that hungry, still 702 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 4: want this ship, Like, nah, bro, we gotta really take 703 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 4: hands off. Like every bar this nigga spitting nigga on 704 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 4: leakor shit, we dropping shit, Like I see what's going on? 705 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 4: Like he just really take his time and he makes 706 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 4: sure that every line is gonna hit you in a way, 707 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 4: and it might not even immediately hit you, but when 708 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 4: it does, it's gonna be like, Yo, this shit is crazy. 709 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 5: So in making that, because I know you and Sean 710 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 5: obviously it worked forever and worked very often having this 711 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 5: EP come out to your point of Sean living. So 712 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 5: good EPs usually come from people that want are hungry 713 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 5: and want to put music out, or two people that 714 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 5: need to put something out. 715 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: Well, Sean does not need to put something out. 716 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 5: Did y'all go in thinking let's do an EP or 717 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 5: were y'all just making records at the time. 718 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: It was like this, yeo, let's put out six of 719 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: these real quick. 720 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 4: Mean, since Detroit two, we never stopped cooking. So that's 721 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 4: my shit. I mean, just like he pushing me, I'm 722 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 4: pushing him right. We talked every day, fucking whether it's 723 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 4: about the music or just about life whatever, and we 724 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 4: just had songs and we was like, nah, bro, after 725 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 4: we made a certain amount, we gotta put something out. 726 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 4: We gotta really make this a whole situation. Like the 727 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 4: song with Dirk and Bryson, this this is coming out 728 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 4: a little later we drop this part. 729 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 5: But I mean by the time the song with Dirk 730 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 5: and Bryson, like Don Cannons sent over a loop to Shane, 731 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 5: he said, a bunch of loops. 732 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 4: Sean sent some of the loops to g rod g 733 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 4: ROI started to bounce on it, brought it through. Was like, 734 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 4: fuck with the eight a ways. Add some more drums, 735 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 4: add some more sounds, did that, and we just built 736 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like just we always just 737 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 4: on this ship, bro, Like we didn't know what that 738 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 4: record was even gonna be. It was just Shane at first. 739 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 4: He was like, this shit is gonna be Shane, and 740 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 4: he like, fucking Bryson want to hop on his ship. 741 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 4: Then after he hopped on and we like, man, let's 742 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 4: get Dirk on this bitch, and it's just about to 743 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 4: be a whole. It's just a movie, bro, crazy, thank you. 744 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 5: I feel like shown over the last few years has 745 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 5: kind of publicly shown his growth, like as a person. 746 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about music at all. 747 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 5: I feel like he's really opened up about him being 748 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 5: depressed in him not really feeling fulfilled on certain shit. 749 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:08,959 Speaker 1: And you can hear it on Troy two. 750 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 5: You could hear about the rollout with that, and even 751 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 5: listening to the EP, it kind of felt like he 752 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 5: got to the end, not the end of that journey, 753 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 5: but he got out of that mess. 754 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: It feels like a centered person. 755 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 5: When I watched that La Leakers freestyle, it felt like 756 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 5: I was talking to somebody that finally understood all the 757 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 5: bullshit that was bothering them for so long. Like the 758 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 5: most centered person I've ever seen Sean. And I feel 759 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 5: like with a lot of like the top tier artists, 760 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 5: we haven't really caught like a centered person because they've 761 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 5: disappeared and just don't say shit publicly really about their lives. 762 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 5: And Sean, I feel like, has done that to the 763 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 5: degree of a top tier artist more than anyone else. 764 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 5: So that felt watching the La Leakers freestyle is like 765 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 5: he rapping his ass. So but this motherfucker finally found himself. 766 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 5: He finally found himself for sure. 767 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 4: I think it's beautiful he talking about just like even 768 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 4: in interviews I didn't see him do like talking about 769 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,919 Speaker 4: his meditation and him just really going on the true 770 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 4: journey for that shit, Like it ain't just like, oh, 771 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 4: I'm just talking out my ass. I read two or 772 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 4: three books exactly. I'm talking shit like now he really 773 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 4: dug deep to be like, man, I'm finna elevate myself 774 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 4: and he come in talking about and we just have 775 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 4: conversations before we even start working. It might be two 776 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 4: three hours the niggas just chopping it just about all 777 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 4: types of things, and it's that shit going to the music. 778 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. That's really what it boiled 779 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 4: down to. Like he talking about this shit as we 780 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 4: in the studio, and then he might think of two 781 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 4: or three bars like oh yeah, you gotta put that 782 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 4: in there, and then I'm there to push him to 783 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 4: be like, nah, nigga, you really gotta write that shit 784 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 4: down like or put in a voice note, whatever the 785 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 4: case may be. Do you see yourself working with like 786 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 4: any R and B acts and like we vamping it 787 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 4: sound like like legendary R and B artist? Man, for sure, 788 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 4: Like watching Full Project album with Charlie Wilson, you know 789 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. He was on both the NAS albums. 790 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 4: Like I feel like we already got come some some 791 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 4: type of synergy going towards sound natural that I'd be 792 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 4: hard to do something bro I do. I mean, actually, man, 793 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,919 Speaker 4: damn I don't know if I should speak on this ship. 794 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 4: Actually I already said something about this, but me and 795 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 4: Dream got something crazy with Usher, like he put the 796 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 4: whole play together, but I produced the beat and he 797 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 4: actually he had a production to it too, but he 798 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 4: orchestrated the whole ship. Wrote the song fucking crazy, bro, 799 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 4: Like I mean, doing the whole Usher album. That should 800 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 4: be insane. Bro. 801 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: Listen with Lauren to I know y'all connected on some 802 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: real ship. 803 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, which was also hysterical when we can talk 804 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 5: about it now because it's out now. You heard it 805 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 5: before When I heard the ship, you just playing that 806 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 5: ship and then just don't say nothing, and that Lauren 807 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 5: verse comes in. 808 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: It's like, all right, man, you're just gonna sit there quietly, 809 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: like okay, let me let me just play some ship 810 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: my bad. 811 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 4: Because I like seeing that react, like if people gonna 812 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 4: catch it or not, because some people I would play 813 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 4: it for it wasn't catching it, Like not understanding with you. 814 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 2: Anybody that's not catching that should never be in the studio. 815 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: Whether she dropped it, I get out bar I just 816 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: looked at him. That's my favorite Lord song. 817 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 5: But uh, ship with the EP ship, did you do 818 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 5: you and I just want to put features on this 819 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 5: one is just leaving alone you're talking about the EP 820 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 5: or now KT two, Yes, because I'm not put I 821 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 5: just want to make sure we. 822 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 4: Get yeah project what you expect? Man, We, like I said, 823 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 4: everything came together natural, Like we had a couple of 824 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 4: records that was just him for a while, and he's like, 825 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 4: we should add somebody, like a record called Offense babyface 826 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 4: rate came through. We did. I ended up doing his 827 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 4: single that night. Then I did this Sean joint that's 828 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 4: on what You What a Life? Let me what you 829 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 4: expect them tripput He Then we had them too for 830 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,479 Speaker 4: a while last minute forty two dougs in his verse 831 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 4: in and it's like, man, it's a whole It's the 832 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 4: whole situation now, like that shit is about to be 833 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 4: going crazy in the spot. 834 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 5: You think Sean felt like And again I'm speaking from 835 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 5: a fan perspective, not knowing with Cole coming out this year, 836 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 5: Drake coming out this year, Kendrick supposedly coming out this year. 837 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 4: It is supposed to be coming out tonight, right, Oh. 838 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. 839 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, And in a few hours did Sean feel like, Nah, 840 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 5: I'm part of that that three because I feel like 841 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 5: everyone says Cole, Kendrick Drake Sean is always that fourth 842 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 5: that I feel should be in there, but somehow with 843 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 5: the accolades doesn't quite get in that conversation. Did he 844 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 5: want to get in the mix, but like, let me 845 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 5: put this ep out because he's wrapping his ass off? 846 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 5: Did he want to just prove some ship because Cole's 847 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 5: album Cole just wrapped? 848 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. I mean I don't think it's like a 849 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 4: he never person bring like they like anybody name up 850 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 4: or like oh I need to I need to be 851 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 4: up there with these niggas, Like nah, it ain't shit 852 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 4: like that. It's more so like nigga, I know who 853 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 4: I am, I know what I need to be doing. 854 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 4: I know the level I need to be at with 855 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 4: this ship in the radar I need to be on. 856 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 4: So that's just more so the focus like man, bro, 857 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 4: I gotta take this ship up to the notches I 858 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 4: know I belong at period point blank? 859 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 3: Are they any for like the up and coming producers 860 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 3: and they catch now that are trying to get into 861 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 3: music with the technology that we have now, Like I 862 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 3: feel like I say this all the time, I feel 863 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 3: like it's easier to get on or be seen or 864 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 3: be heard sure than it was, you know, years ago 865 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 3: coming up. 866 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 2: What's something that. 867 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 3: No, you wish somebody would have told you or producers 868 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 3: you would have heard a producers say when you was 869 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 3: coming up that you would want to say to like 870 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 3: the younger men, that's that's making music, definitely. 871 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously people kind of know now that you 872 00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 4: can just go like you could shoot videos. However many 873 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,959 Speaker 4: videos you want to upload the motherfuckers and they gonna 874 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 4: do what they gonna do, like when you just going 875 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 4: off the rimp and just having him natural, that natural 876 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 4: fan base. I honestly, if I could go back when 877 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 4: fucking Drake was repping Surf Club and we had, you know, 878 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 4: all this shit going surf club wise, fresh with the 879 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 4: Polo situation, Nigga would have been shooting videos. Nigga, we 880 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 4: was living in Atlanta with our own spot. Fucking Polo 881 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 4: was letting me drive his Jaguar, Nigga's O six fucking 882 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 4: nineteen twenty and it's joints in Atlanta. So I'm looking 883 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 4: like you understand, I'm looking like that dude, and it's like, 884 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 4: now I could have been just shooting a surf club video. 885 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 4: At the Surf Club video, but we did. We thought 886 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 4: we needed this, you know, it was six oh seven. 887 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 4: We thought we needed a crazy budget. You know, we 888 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 4: thought we needed this music exec to beat this shit. Like, Bro, 889 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 4: we had fucking Drake shouting us out nigga on multiple songs, like, 890 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 4: we had niggas really trying to beat down with the click, 891 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,800 Speaker 4: but we didn't understand our own power. And that's what 892 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 4: I had to take back. That's why I'm at this 893 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 4: zone I'm at now because I fully understand my power 894 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 4: and understand my talent level. And I also understand the 895 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 4: fucking amount of time and hours I put into this shit. 896 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 4: So everything that's coming, nigga deserved this shit. 897 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 1: Bro. 898 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 4: I thug through a lot of fucked up shit. Falling 899 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 4: out with Kanye fucked me up for a minute. Bro, 900 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 4: I was like, damn, nigga, am I gonna be able 901 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 4: to really still do this shit? 902 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 5: Like I'm thinking the nigga on Black Ball and you know, 903 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 5: just being a thousand bro, it's niggas that it came 904 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 5: to me that was like Yay said to this. 905 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 4: Nigga, don't use hit boy on your album, Like I 906 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 4: really did through that, Nigga. How many niggas don't. 907 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 5: How many motherfuckers could get through Kanye trying to derail 908 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:38,879 Speaker 5: they shit. 909 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 4: Bro, So now you kind of see where. 910 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 5: My I'm at the NAS party, Like, Nigga, I did 911 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 5: a harder album than for NAS than you did, Like 912 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, And that's just real. 913 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: But you think you think you could have realized your 914 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 1: power until you thought it was taken away. 915 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was part of it. Bro likes having the 916 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 4: time having to go back into like all right, when 917 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 4: I got on and I was doing this shit and 918 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,320 Speaker 4: I was flying out to fuck with different you know, artists. 919 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 4: I was just coming from the crib, bro, from naturally 920 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,240 Speaker 4: doing what I do every day. I wasn't thinking about 921 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 4: the industry. I wasn't thinking about no rollout, I wasn't 922 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 4: thinking about none of the bullshit. I'm like, Nigga, these 923 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 4: beats is hard. Niggas need to fuck with these and 924 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 4: getting back to there. I'm flourishing now because it's like 925 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 4: I know where, I know where I'm at, I know 926 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 4: what's going on, and I also know that momentum is 927 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 4: a motherfucker. 928 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 5: Bro. 929 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 4: I got the momentum right now. So if I keep 930 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,760 Speaker 4: putting in the work that got me to this place, 931 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 4: a nigga, I'm only gonna keep going up. If I 932 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 4: slow down or if I star way slow, you know 933 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,240 Speaker 4: it's gonna be on me because I did it before. 934 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 5: Do you feel some of that same pressure though, that 935 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 5: same Kanye pressure, and I have the momentum now I 936 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 5: can't fuck this up? Do you feel that? 937 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: Not at this point? 938 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 4: Not at this point, bro? Like Nigga didn't want Grammys 939 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 4: with Naves. Bro, Like, if I would have came to 940 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 4: niggas and been like, hey, y'all, I'm finna do this 941 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 4: NAS album, nigga, you think we're gonna want to grammy, 942 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 4: niggas would have been like, right, bro, come on coming 943 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,800 Speaker 4: off to Kanye ship all that. 944 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 5: The narrative niggas would have been like, hit boy, nigga, 945 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 5: fuck you talking about you're not finna want to grammy 946 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 5: with NAS. But I was like, this is fucking NAS nigga, 947 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 5: and I got these beats in my computer. How the 948 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 5: fuck we're gonna lose? Like That's how I looked at it. 949 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 3: Do you ever want to have like a real personal 950 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 3: like conversation with Kanye th like and just like a 951 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 3: heart to heart. 952 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 4: I mean that would be that would be the ship. 953 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 4: I want to work with the nigga for real, Like 954 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 4: I loved the nigga because I just grew up on him, 955 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 4: like that was my era, Like I started making beats 956 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 4: oh three, the nigga came out three basically like as 957 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 4: far as his own ship turning up, and that shit 958 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 4: inspired me watching him. And that's some things that I 959 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 4: told him. 960 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 5: With certain you know, situations, we had certain conversations we nigga. 961 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,280 Speaker 4: We didn't have some bro he ad Gemini, I'm a Gemini. 962 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 4: I'm gonna cusp those towards Gemini. We didn't have some 963 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 4: real back and forths. And I mean, I like to 964 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 4: tell niggas how I really feel, and certain niggas at 965 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 4: a certain statue don't like to hear that ship. 966 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 5: But I don't give a fuck, nigga, I'm gonna tell 967 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 5: you how I feel. Bro, I don't care who you are. 968 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 4: So that's just what it is. And that made us 969 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 4: bump ass. But I'm like, at the end of the day, 970 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 4: we made fucking a song that you could perform twenty 971 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,320 Speaker 4: times in one night. You can't do that, Bro, I 972 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,839 Speaker 4: went to to the Astro World concert. I just knew 973 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,280 Speaker 4: fucking Travis was gonna perform sick on Mode at least twice. 974 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 4: He did that bitch once. 975 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 5: That bitch diamond niggas appears ain't even diamond, But you 976 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 5: could before that more fucking twenty times in the night. 977 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 5: So why wouldn't me and Kanye, you know, just be 978 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 5: able to chop it? But you don't know where niggas 979 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 5: is at. 980 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 2: Exactly, I'm kidding. 981 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 5: It was the Ya ship, a personal type of level 982 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 5: two or just a professional ticket personal after after I 983 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 5: heard certain ship about him telling people like not to 984 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 5: put me on their albums and shit like that, and 985 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 5: just certain little things that I'm it's certain shit that 986 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,720 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna speak on because it's. 987 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 4: Just too real and it's too like crazy. But yeah, 988 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 4: just certain shit that I see go down was it 989 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 4: was kind of crazy to me, bro, like that's how 990 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 4: niggas get down in this ship, Like, oh, it's not 991 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 4: about if you're hard or not, Like that was my thing. 992 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 4: I would have rather been like, your shit not hard, 993 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 4: your beat these beat tanked and ship niggas is sitting there, man, Nigga, 994 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,879 Speaker 4: I want you to do my whole ship, nigga, I'm 995 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 4: I'm canceling out everybody. And then the next week like, 996 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 4: n ain't fucking with you because of whoever, whatever, however 997 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 4: it went down, ego whatever, don't tell me I'm the 998 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 4: ship and they'd be like fuck you the next week. 999 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 4: Because that's just I mean it is. 1000 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 3: Ego is something that you know, especially as Black men. 1001 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 3: When we just was talking about that, like you reach 1002 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 3: a certain you know, level of success or you start 1003 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 3: to make a certain amount of money and fame and 1004 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,400 Speaker 3: whatever the fuck else, Like our egos get in the 1005 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 3: way of a lot of beautiful things. It stops a 1006 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 3: lot of things from happening. And you know, it's good 1007 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 3: to still hear you say, like, Yo, you love Kanye. 1008 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1009 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:13,759 Speaker 3: You would want to have a heart to heart one 1010 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 3: Like that's you removing your ego. 1011 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 2: Because you the guy right now. 1012 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 3: You can talk a lot of shit right now, and 1013 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 3: you can have a crazy ego yourself, but you still 1014 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 3: keeping at to a point where it's like, nah, but 1015 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 3: I really love dude though, you know what I mean, 1016 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 3: And I think as black men, we need to do 1017 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 3: more that That's okay. 1018 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 2: To be upset. Nah for let's still talking, man. 1019 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 4: Bro, I really be studying, man. Like sometimes I go 1020 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 4: back and listen to old interviews. I had ran across 1021 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 4: an old NAS interview at the height of the fucking 1022 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,359 Speaker 4: whole NAS beef, the nigga's on the radio, Like, that's 1023 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:44,839 Speaker 4: my brother. 1024 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 5: I love this nigga whether we talk shit, that's still 1025 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,879 Speaker 5: my brother. I love him because of that black man, 1026 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 5: that's my brother. 1027 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,840 Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying, Like niggas could go 1028 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,359 Speaker 4: through their shit, but that's why I fuck with NAS 1029 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 4: so heavy. 1030 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 5: Bro. 1031 00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 4: He ain't no petty ass nigga like period, and. 1032 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 3: He has every right to be because of who he is. 1033 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 3: He could be very petty if you wanted to. 1034 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 1: A lot of people have done him dirty where he 1035 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: could be God yeah, I guess. 1036 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:08,839 Speaker 4: Uh. 1037 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 5: The last question I have non music related outside of 1038 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 5: music and your family? 1039 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 1: What fulfills you. 1040 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 4: Side of music and my family? 1041 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 5: Man, Bro, fucking going outside and it's sunny and it 1042 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 5: feels good and I got a nice fit on and 1043 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,839 Speaker 5: my regular. 1044 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 2: Ship what you read much ship? 1045 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 4: Suggest Bro? I like to go out with my you 1046 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I mean that's family, my son, 1047 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 4: Like you go to the park with my son, bro, 1048 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,839 Speaker 4: regular things. I love that ship. You know what I'm saying. 1049 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,879 Speaker 3: It's good to have, you know, money and be able 1050 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,759 Speaker 3: to do things you want to do what you need 1051 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 3: that ship. But you told him, I just on the 1052 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 3: level of just life healthy, Like when I. 1053 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 4: Feel happy, Nigga, I'm out doing the most regular thing, man, 1054 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 4: that ship is the best. 1055 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 1: You think music consumed you too much just to the 1056 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 1: position you want. 1057 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 5: It's funny, like that's heavy, like even with the Leakers 1058 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 5: freestyle that right when Sean got on the friends Drake 1059 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 5: and Jay Bugger, when he got into that family being 1060 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 5: your backbone and everything that you're doing. Like sometimes do 1061 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,280 Speaker 5: you know how to differentiate between I'm making music because 1062 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 5: this is my passion or now this is my job 1063 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 5: and people in my life are required their livelihood is 1064 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 5: required on me making this shit? 1065 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 1: Is there is there a different man? 1066 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 4: How you know what I'm saying. My mom I take 1067 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 4: care of like her, take care of my grandmother. I 1068 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,959 Speaker 4: take care of my sisters, I take care of pretty 1069 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 4: much everybody in my family. Bro, that shit is everything, 1070 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,319 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So it's definitely an obligation. 1071 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 4: But I love it so much that it don't feel 1072 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 4: funned up to me because I will be doing this 1073 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,359 Speaker 4: shit regardless. So it's like for me to be able 1074 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 4: to be in a position to work with prominent artists 1075 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 4: that really want to come rock with me and want 1076 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 4: to buy beats. Nigga, that's it, beautiful, bro. I look 1077 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,839 Speaker 4: at myself as like a Sacks fifth. I'm coming through 1078 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 4: a Nigga'm gonna have variety. 1079 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 5: I'm gonna have You might not get your whole out, nigga, 1080 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 5: but you might get this coat, a pair of shoes. 1081 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 5: You're gonna find something if you come through with a 1082 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 5: level head and be like, I want to fuck with 1083 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 5: this n you know. 1084 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, well listen man, I mean, you know, aside from 1085 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 3: us just wanting to kick it with you on a 1086 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 3: personal level, man, I just want to, you know, say, 1087 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,319 Speaker 3: it's been a pleasure watching your your career take off 1088 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 3: the way it has, working with you know, legends from 1089 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 3: my childhood, like nas. 1090 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 2: You know, it's it's just it's just dope to watch 1091 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,359 Speaker 2: good good people win. Man. 1092 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 3: And you one of the dudes that I sit back 1093 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 3: and I watch and I'm like, yo, hit is just 1094 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,399 Speaker 3: he's just a dope. Dude, like he's a little dude. 1095 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,879 Speaker 3: He's solid and he loves what he do. He does, 1096 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 3: he's passionate. I love how you are with your family 1097 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,279 Speaker 3: or I mean, it's just anybody. Nobody has anything they 1098 00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 3: can say negative about hit boy, you know what I mean. 1099 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 3: And I think that's why your blessings have been in 1100 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,280 Speaker 3: such an abundance, because you just a solid individual. 1101 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,839 Speaker 2: So salute to you man, doing what you're doing. 1102 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 4: Appreciate you y'all right here in my backyard. I mean 1103 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:08,759 Speaker 4: this one. 1104 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,279 Speaker 3: Oh no, you know, whenever we come out here, I 1105 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,880 Speaker 3: try to. I try to shoot you a text. I 1106 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 3: know you busy, but just to let you know, like, yo, listen, man, 1107 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 3: we in town. 1108 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,799 Speaker 4: You know, love run the exclusives, running new. 1109 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 2: Ship, got it, we got you hit the new records. 1110 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 1: Man. 1111 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 4: You know I talk passionate man. So I don't think 1112 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,720 Speaker 4: I'm like with the calm, not feeling no way about 1113 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 4: none of this ship. I just talked how I talk. 1114 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 5: Man, don't explain it because you realize you're talking to 1115 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,439 Speaker 5: an audience. Well, the moment you say something that don't 1116 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,320 Speaker 5: belong to you, they're just gonna assume what they assume. 1117 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 5: A right I know, you're not really feeling way about it. 1118 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,359 Speaker 5: That's just how you talk, you know. We go through 1119 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:43,839 Speaker 5: that ship all the time yelling. 1120 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:44,879 Speaker 1: It's like, and I'm not mad. 1121 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,880 Speaker 2: This is just how I talk, right right, So. 1122 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:48,800 Speaker 1: You can't get caught up on that. But thank you 1123 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 1: so much. Appreciate you, bro. 1124 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 4: No, I just love Man off top nor