WEBVTT - NFC North Betting Guide: Coaching Changes, Division Winner & Win Totals (Ep. 720) 0:00:01.040 --> 0:00:03.240 Welcome in everybody the Betting Pros. It's time to place 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:05.680 your bets. It's meet Joey p Joe Pi Zapia and 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:09.760 this is BP NFL. We're back again with the previews 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:13.400 of each and every division the NFL. Last week we 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:16.920 were back with the AFC North and today we're staying 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:20.680 in the Earth because it's really hot everywhere and I 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:22.680 just want to think cold thoughts right now. But this 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:25.600 time we're moving to the NFC, where it's very cold. 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:28.120 I want to think about December right now, because it's 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:30.640 ninety nine degrees in New Jersey. All I want to 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:33.360 think about is I don't know the Packers and the 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:35.960 Vikings playing in December at lambeau Field. That makes me 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:39.080 feel nice and cool. And of course, speaking of cool, 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:42.800 Trell Firman Juniors here and Andrew ericson the Undertaker. They're 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:44.879 gonna help us go through the win totals. A division 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:48.240 that maybe some favorite bets, maybe someone you never even 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:50.720 thought about. We're gonna throw them at you today. But first, 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:53.159 don't forget to subscribe to the YouTube channel here at 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:57.240 Betting Pros. 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When you lose your defensive 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:33.080 coordinator in offseason, that's rough. Then you lose your passing 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:36.160 game coordinator Tanner Extra and he's gone too. And the 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:39.120 worst part is the offensive coordinator that you lost just 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:41.040 went in the division and became the head coach, and 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:44.000 now you gotta change the whole playbook. Terrell Furman Junior. 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:45.959 I think the Detroit Lions are going through it right now. 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:48.280 They still got a great roster, they still got a 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:50.680 lot going for them. But this is a lot of 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:53.080 chit chit chich changes in one offseason. 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:56.600 Yeah, a lot of changes and a lot of optimism 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:58.920 that they're just gonna pick it up and go right 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:01.800 where they left off. And they might go right where 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:03.400 they left off, because the last thing that we saw 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:05.400 from them was them getting destroyed by the Commanders, So 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:11.280 it might. I don't want to jump into it too much, 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:15.280 but I'll say this is that I change comes with 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:17.919 a lot of things, and with change, it's going to 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:20.200 be either positive or negative reaction. I think it's a 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:24.320 lot of negative reaction here. The Lions looked unbeatable for 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:26.520 a good portion of that season last year. I don't 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:27.960 think they're gonna look like that next year. 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:31.160 I can't believe this. Terrell and I starting off holding hands. 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:33.400 Usually we just argue on the show for thirty minutes. 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:36.440 Today we're in agreement. I think it's too much. I 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:39.960 really do in this cock eyed optimism Andrew that everything's 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:42.480 just fine in Detroit. I don't share it. I know 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:44.200 they had a lot of injuries last year, especially in 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:46.960 the defensive side, and E wants to make excuses, But 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:49.560 the one excuse that you know you can't make anymore 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:53.079 is that, well, you don't have enough big game experience here. 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:55.320 Because Dan Campbell every time he gets into big games, 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:57.440 those teams don't seem prepared or they don't seem to 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.680 make the right decisions. And now you got to make 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:03.639 more decisions with a bunch of new offensive and defensive coordinators. 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:05.400 And I keep coming back to that same thing as like, 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:07.840 you know the guy who you're gonna play twice now, 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:10.840 Ben Johnson in Chicago, he knows exactly what you do. 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:12.200 You got to change a lot of what you do, 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:13.920 a lot of the verbiage of what you do, otherwise 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.079 they might be able to upset you for one of 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.080 those games, if not two. I'm just saying, when they 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:22.520 understand your game plan, your playbook, that's really tough. And 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:24.040 I'm not saying like that's the end all be all. 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:26.280 The lines are still a great roster. But we've seen 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:29.040 historically when teams lose Super Bowls and lose coordinators, or 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:31.800 win Super Bowls and lose coordinators all of a sudden 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:34.080 next year, they don't look the same. This team didn't 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:36.200 even get to a Super Bowl and they lost their coordinators. 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:38.960 Yeah, there's a lot of moving pieces with the twenty 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:42.760 twenty five Detroit Lions, highlighted by the coordinators leaving passing 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:45.920 game coordinators. But I look at it from that's nothing. 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:49.600 The extent you see center Frank Ragno, he's gone. How 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:51.560 good is this offensive line if they hit one or 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:53.960 two injuries. I know you talked about at the beginning. 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:57.440 Their defense just absolutely ravaged by injuries last year, but 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:00.480 their offense stayed pretty healthy for the majority of the season. 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:03.080 So if that flips, well, if I'm a backer of 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:05.800 the Lions, I would rather have their offense stay healthy 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:07.920 and their defense be terrible again and get injured, because 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:10.840 we see year over year what's stickier. Good offenses continue 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:13.880 to be good, whereas defenses fluctuate a little bit more so, 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:16.960 even if the defense improves but then the offense gets 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:18.560 a little bit more banged up, I think that's going 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:22.120 to result in probably more losses in that particular column. 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:25.320 So I would like to give more credit to Dan 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:26.840 Campbell because I do think that he is a good 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:28.720 head coach, and we look at his against the spread record. 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.360 I mean he's number one. He's been number one basically 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:34.039 since that mid season point during I think his rookie 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:37.120 year as the head coach, and he's always performed above expectation. 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:39.880 But now the hand that he's dealt. I think that 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:42.080 this is like when you highlight regression, it's just a 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.440 picture of the twenty twenty five Lions, just everything kind 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:46.040 of coming back down to earth. So, even though they'll 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:48.960 be competitive, I don't want to be on the overside 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:50.839 and optimistic side of them this year. 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:53.280 Yeah, more on this as we get to the division 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:55.800 winner here, but first let's get to the Chicago Bears 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:57.640 new head coach Ben Johnson. I think he's a good 0:04:57.680 --> 0:04:59.760 offensive mind. I'm still not sold that he's a head 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:02.920 coach in this league. We'll see. But Keenan Allen's gone, 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:06.719 Luther Burden was drafted Kyle Manongui, who I like a lot. 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:08.440 I think he's going to be the David Montgomery in 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:12.719 this offense personally, ericson the Bears have a lot of turnover, 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:14.240 a lot of change. I know there's a lot of 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.320 optimism that things are going to get better and they 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:19.040 probably can't get much worse now. The Bears defensively kind 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:23.960 of competitive, there offensively hot mess, no instruction going on 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:26.159 for a young quarterback. You hope that that change, but 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:29.800 the question is how long does it take to really 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:33.279 put that all into effect? For the Caleb Williams Ben 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:35.560 Johnson new regime change. 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:38.000 Well, if you're a Bears fan or part of the 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:40.480 Bears roster hoping, it's Week one against the Vikings on 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:43.520 Monday Night football at Soldier Field, So they're really hoping 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:46.440 that Ben Johnson has this immediate effect on Caleb Williams, 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:49.560 who we think that has potential former number one overall pick. 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.479 Last year was obviously a disaster, but there were still 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:54.760 plays and highlights that Caleb show that he can make 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:58.760 special plays outside the pocket. Now, ben Johnson coming in, 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:00.520 I think to just give him a little bit more layups. 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:03.000 I'll get into it a little bit more, but the 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:04.839 Bears were one of the worst teams in the first 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:08.000 quarter last year. Basically they would always open up down 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:11.320 seven points, down ten points because they weren't putting Caleb 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:13.760 Williams in situations to succeed. Early on, he wasn't able 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:15.640 to develop momentum, and then it would be him dropping 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:17.640 back forty plus times in the second half of tragedy 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:20.800 rallies team back from defeat. So I think that Ben 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:22.760 Johnson is gonna have a positive impact. I think that 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:25.479 the other additions you didn't mention offensive line like that 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:27.160 was the first thing they hit in free agency. They 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:29.080 were not messing around that. We're not doing what we 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:31.120 did last year. We need to bowls of the offense line, 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:32.760 we have to protect Kayleb Williams so he can make 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:36.400 plays from the pocket, and I do think defensively, the 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:39.039 personnel is still pretty good. I think last year the 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:42.080 defensive collapse was more related to there was a new 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:44.919 head coach basically every single week, and the defense was 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.240 getting frustrated with how bad the offense was and it 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:49.920 just kind of just was an absolute mess. So bringing 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:53.279 in Dennis Allen, who again not a great head coach, 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:56.600 but as a defensive coordinator, okay, I like him in 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.120 that position with Ben Johnson, So I think that this 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:02.039 roster is pretty solid and if Kabobs can't take that 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:05.040 leap in his second year, still young quarterback, the Bears 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:05.880 could be really exciting. 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:09.120 All right, Terrelle, what's your take on the Bears who 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:12.280 have a new coach, new offensive line, but a second 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:15.040 year quarterback who certainly did struggle last season. 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:19.320 I'm not optimistic at all. Honestly, it looks good on 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:21.960 paper and sure, but it showed me better than you 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.240 could tell me because I want to see it. I 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:27.000 want to see Dennis Allin be a great defensive coordinator 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:30.160 because I think that we're remembering the Didnis Allent defensive 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:34.080 coordinator run a little bit differently. He was a pretty 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:37.640 okay defensive coordinator for a lot of that run until 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:41.320 COVID happened. Then COVID happened and it got a lot better. 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:44.520 The defense actually started doing something, and it transitioned into 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.240 him taking over the interim jobs and being the head 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:51.040 coach of the team. And so I'm like, all right, 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:54.480 we have the recency of that, but we haven't seen 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:56.240 it as him as a DC. He was kind of 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:58.000 the head coach at that point. By the time the 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:00.000 defense started rolling, he was kind of running the whole 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.920 old team. So is this is that gonna come over 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:06.080 and transfer over to this Bears defense that does have talent. 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.080 I admit they have talent, but I just don't know 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:10.920 if it's gonna transfer over day one, maybe year two, 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.320 maybe a little bit closer to the beg end of 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:15.240 the year. But like right off the rip, I think 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:17.640 the Bears defense actually is gonna have some growing pains 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.040 as they're switching over to a new system playing under 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.480 Jen Sullen and figuring it out, and I think that's 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:26.440 gonna hinder your win total. I mean, maybe Caleb Williams 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:29.000 and this offense looks great, and maybe Ben Johnson comes 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:31.680 over here and absolutely takes over it and is everything 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:33.719 that we said Kayle Williams was gonna be. But kay 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:36.240 Williams still holds the ball too long, yes, and he's 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:39.320 still and he still makes horrible decisions when he gets 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:43.760 downfield and he gets pressure. So I really, I really don't. 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:46.600 I'm not there on the on the brown not Browns. 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:53.800 The Yeah, the Freudian slip already happening, but yeah, nah man, 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:56.600 I'm not there on the Bears yet, like it sounds 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:59.400 on paper, but somebody in this division has to be bad. 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:02.800 So the Bears are okay. That means that the Packers 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:05.720 and the Lions just have to completely bottom out. And 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:08.000 I don't think they're gonna completely bottom out. Maybe not 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:09.760 as good as last year, but they're not gonna bottom out. 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.199 So I think the Bears are gonna look okay at moments, 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:14.440 maybe that they're close to a five hundred record, but 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:17.000 I don't think they're gonna be this all great scene. 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.800 More covers than wins. That's what I think. And you 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:21.920 know what, the first thing you gotta do is just 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:24.360 get Caleb Williams getting rid of the football quickly. Keep 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:29.160 it simple, getting rid of the football quickly, easy looks, understanding, 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:31.240 you know where to go to the football in this scenario, 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:33.480 in that scenario, in this down like whatever. 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:35.920 That is just it's two second year with a new offense. 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:37.800 Yeah, I know. But tune him into the NFL, because 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:39.160 that's what he's got to get tuned into. The stuff 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:40.840 can get away with college when you run twenty yards 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:42.640 deep in the backfield, is not gonna get it done 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:45.680 the NFL. Minnesota, perhaps I can tempt to roll for 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:49.800 some excitement there because that's where my excitement begins. I 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:52.320 saw last year Sam Darnold get dropped in and all 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:54.120 of a sudden, make this team a playoff team. And 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:57.680 I'll tell you what. The Vikings defense pretty good. Jordan 0:09:57.760 --> 0:09:59.840 Mason added for depth at the RB position. I really 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:02.480 like that offseason move. But it's really just JJ McCarthy 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:05.080 now taking over the rains at you be, And I'm 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.080 very confident. I like McCarthy. I think he's a winner. 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:08.640 I think he's got the right kind of attitude. I 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:10.200 think he's gonna have a little bit of russ for 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:12.240 not playing for a year. I think he needs to 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:15.640 play in preseason. Hopefully they do play him more. But Terrell, 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:19.880 to me, I think Minnesota is the sneaky pick here 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:22.959 in this division. I think not that it's necessarily like 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.720 addition here, it's just like this is your franchise quarterback 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.880 and turning over the rains to him. With Kevin McCarthy, 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:31.880 who's such a good Kevin o'connaugh excuse me, who's such 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:34.640 a good head coach? I did it. I did it 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:37.400 now McCarthy Kevin O'Connell, who is such a good head 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:40.880 coach that I think it's gonna take a little bit 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:43.760 of time in September, but once the training wheels comes off, 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:45.559 I think it's gonna be big time here for the 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:47.160 Minnesota Vikings. But what do you think, team? 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:50.760 So this is like when you're in college and you 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.199 take that class the first time around and it's just 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.680 it's not going the way he's supposed to go, and 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:59.320 you either withdraw you might actually flow in the class, 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:01.800 but like this is this is on the credit sheet. 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:04.080 You need this on your credit that you need those 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:06.839 credit hours, so you gotta take that class again. Well, 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:09.000 guess what, it's a lot easier this time around because 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:11.600 you said everything the first time, like he was there 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:13.680 with the team and even though he was hurt, he 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:17.000 was getting all the learning and bringing in all that information. 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:21.320 And at this point I have faith in O'Connell because 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.240 he signed Daniel Jones and thought he could do something 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:27.320 with that and he felt very confident when he did it. 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:29.320 And if you have that type of confidence in you 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:31.960 as a coach, I just have to assume that maybe 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:35.040 this Vikings thing that happened last year wasn't just a thing. 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:38.160 Maybe this is how the Vikings are actually going to be. 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:40.160 And right now they're four to one the wind of 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:42.040 the division. I like the Vikings to go over their 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:45.880 win total. Is McCarthy good, I don't know, but I 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:48.520 know Sam Darnold isn't good and they still made playoffs, 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.720 so I'm very much good taking the over on this 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:54.480 win total is less about that and more about Brian 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.720 Floores in the defense. Yeah, he had the defense balling 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:00.760 last year. Now they're a little thin at corner right now, 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:02.920 but I don't think that matters because he just gets 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.520 the top tier play out of the talent that he has. 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.240 They have Isaiah Rodgers right now, and he likes him. 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:09.920 He thinks that he can be a really, really good 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:12.760 corner in his system. And so if Brian Flores is 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:15.960 very very optimistic about the defense, continue to do what 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.840 they did last year, create turnovers, create a bunch of 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:20.680 have it over the course of the season, and just 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:24.040 make JJ and JJ do enough. You don't got to 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.240 do a lot, but JJ and JJ just got to 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:28.720 do enough. Then Yeah, I think the Vikings are going 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:29.840 to be good. So give me the over on the 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:31.160 win total. I think they have a shot to win 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:31.600 the division. 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:32.959 Oh, we're gonna get to those win totals in the 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:35.040 second ericson, I want to know your take here because 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:37.920 Floras did not jump ship right he is back. Continue 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:42.360 is important head coach coordinators, everybody coming back here. And look, 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:45.000 at least McCarthy was around the system last year, you know, 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:47.079 learning and kind of seeing. You probably would have been 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:50.120 red shirted anyway in his rookie season for at least 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:51.960 a good chunk of it. So it sucks he wasn't 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:53.480 on the field. 're able to take the reps. But 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:57.520 a full healthy offseason now a full regular camp. There's 0:12:57.559 --> 0:12:59.520 reason to be optimistic here, I think about the Vikings. 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.880 I think there is, but there's also some pessimism regarding 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:05.280 him coming off a season ending injury. He's coming off 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:08.439 a torn meniscus, talking about he missed all the physical 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:10.720 reps last offseasons. So even if he was there mentally, 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:12.959 you know, his body wasn't necessarily there with him along 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:14.800 the way. And we know what he did at Michigan. 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:17.480 It wasn't a lot of dropbacks. They ran the ball 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:19.400 a lot, And to I think a point that you 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:21.960 made earlier, Joe about the Vikings, I don't think they 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:24.120 lean on him as much to start the year. I 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:27.800 think they bolster the interior offensive line because it acquired 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:30.120 Jordan Mason, because I want to run the football and 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.480 let's ease our young quarterback coming off a knee injury. 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:35.480 Let's ease him in. We don't need to put everything 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:37.080 on him. The system is so good. He just has 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:39.480 to make a couple key throws, be efficient, not turn 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:42.040 the ball over, and will win games. So I think 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:44.480 that the Vikings are a team that maybe for the 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:46.880 first month they're still kind of figuring things out because 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:48.640 I agree that he needs to play in the preseason. 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.160 He needs to get more live game reps till he 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:52.640 gets up to the speed. I think the Vikings are 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:54.640 going to be a team that's in the conversation for 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:56.880 the playoffs for the division as they kind of hit 0:13:56.920 --> 0:13:58.880 their stride down in the second half of the year. 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:01.720 So I'm also pretty optimistic about the Bikings. I think that, 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:05.360 again McCarthy hits, this team could win thirteen fourteen games, 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:07.599 like we've seen with O'Connell the last couple of seasons. 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.719 Yeah, I think I Look again, I lost spoil things. 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:13.880 Let's keep going. Let's talk about the Packers here. Offseason 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:18.920 for them. Jira Alexander gone to Baltimore as of there, 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:22.240 I mean a couple of years ago. But look, he's 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:26.880 been hurt. So look, Matthew Golden was the big draft 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:30.040 pick for them in the first round. But Ericson, you know, look, 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.320 last year was a lot of injuries. Jordan Love was 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:35.040 playing hurt most of the year. Things just did not 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:37.440 go their way. In the year before everything did go 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:39.840 their way. So now it's a question of Okay, which 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.240 one are you? Who do you think the Packers are. 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:44.080 I think that their team that's going to lean more 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:45.960 on Jordan Love healthy this year. I think they're going 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:47.880 to lean more on his arm this year, But I 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:49.720 don't know if that's going to necessarily translate to win 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.640 because I think this defense is horrible up and down 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:54.560 the ross. They needed to draft edge rushers, they needed 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:57.600 to draft secondary pieces, and they just drafted wide receivers 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:01.360 in this year's draft. They had clear their needs. So 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:03.360 I have concerns that the Packers are going to be 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:05.240 a team that maybe they're really fun for fantasy where 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:07.840 they're playing shootouts left and right at lambeau Field, where 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:10.560 it's significantly cult that is here in New England, But 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:13.640 is that one always translates to wins, especially if Love 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:15.640 is pushing the narrative and maybe he's turning the ball 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:16.920 over a lot, because we know we've seen that with 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:18.880 him when he likes to drop back and sling it. 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:21.360 Sometimes it's really fun and sometimes it's, oh, well, there 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:24.840 goes another pick six interception for Jordan Love. So I 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:27.280 think that the line is pretty spot on. They're gonna 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:28.920 be in games, They're going to be competitive, but I 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:31.320 think I lean towards the under well. 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:33.240 Terrell, I can understand, you know, wanting to run the 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.720 football and play defense. We know they can run the football, 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:37.720 they can do the former. Can they do the latter? 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:40.080 Oh? Good luck? 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:46.400 I mean good luck. If any game I think they win, 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:48.880 they're they're gonna win because they somehow put up thirty 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:50.840 points in a game. And Josh Jacobs has some great 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.640 running game, and I mean that's what they did. They 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:56.320 committed to the running game here and there. He tried 0:15:56.640 --> 0:16:00.840 to make some additions along the offensive line. But there's 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:03.240 a lot of changes here. It's a lot of changes. 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:06.480 Now you're shifting around players on the offensive line. You've 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:11.000 got they're a Progo guard Jenkins, he's the center. Now 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:15.200 what that's not? Okay? That's a Pro Bowl guard and 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:17.440 now he's your center. So guess what you have at guard? 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:21.680 Not a Pro Bowl guard? Like that's very very concerning here. 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:24.880 It's too many ships around the offensive line that just 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:29.560 make me think the Packers are gonna be anything consistent here. 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:32.360 So I don't know, maybe they do bottom out. Actually, 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:33.480 all right, let's look. 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:36.440 At the wind totals before we do. Just a quick 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:38.960 reminder you should check out our sponsor, no Vig because 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:40.760 if you're looking for a smarter way to play. 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I think they're okay. 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:45.000 I don't think that they're gonna be in the playoff discussion, 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.600 but I think that they'll play hard enough where they're like, hey, 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:48.480 let's let's go for it. 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:48.879 Go for it. 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:50.159 And then it's gonna be a loss here and I 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:52.639 lost there. Like I'm not one hundred percent sold on 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:54.919 the defense. The defense may get better as this season 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:57.159 goes on, but there's gonna be a couple of games 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.760