Speaker 1: Spirt round. Dallas Cowboys. A lot of opportunity here. It's
Speaker 1: been a long time coming. All of the preparation, the
Speaker 1: anticipation of our own has come down to the call.
Speaker 1: Who will get the call? One that many hopefuls have
Speaker 1: received in the past. Some have taken that call to
Speaker 1: new heights, while others have failed to live up to
Speaker 1: the expectations, says Terry Jalons with the Dallas Cowboys, some
Speaker 1: calls have surprised us, others have inspired us ready to go,
Speaker 1: while very few have changed the course of a franchise
Speaker 1: in the first round, Marshall Irman wide receiver man. But
Speaker 1: now it's time for a new call. For those who
Speaker 1: enter the night uncertain of what their future may hold.
Speaker 1: Those that avoid your whole life, grinding, hustling, seizing every
Speaker 1: waking moment to get to this night and to receive
Speaker 1: this call. I have, But the question still remains the
Speaker 1: same when the moment comes and the decision is made,
Speaker 1: who will get the call? Welcome to Dallas Cowboys dot
Speaker 1: COM's live Bumper to Mumper coverage of the NFL Draft
Speaker 1: with David Hellman, Kevin Turner, Dane Brugler, Cowboys Coaches Draft
Speaker 1: Fix and special guests. Now your host Kyle Yoyle. Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: you didn't think that you were going to get by
Speaker 1: this draft without me giving you some inspirational words to
Speaker 1: start out, now, did you? These come from for President
Speaker 1: Dwight D. Eisenhower and President Eisenhower said no battle was
Speaker 1: ever won according to planned, but no battle was ever
Speaker 1: won without one. Look forward to working with you guys
Speaker 1: this weekend. Let's have a lot of fun doing this draft,
Speaker 1: as we always do. I don't know if there was
Speaker 1: any better way to potentially start the NFL Draft coverage
Speaker 1: then we have quite so many times here from the
Speaker 1: Star in Frisco with Brian brought us some words of
Speaker 1: wisdom from Dwight D. Eisenhower and saying that, well, hey,
Speaker 1: plans are there. The plans have been made, the scenarios
Speaker 1: have been talked through, but David Hellman, there's no such
Speaker 1: thing as a plan when it comes to the NFL Draft.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be football Christmas without Father Christmas dropping in on.
Speaker 1: It's like Santa Claus coming back to the North Pole,
Speaker 1: which I was joking. If you're a long time listen,
Speaker 1: you might remember when Brian brought us read Thomas Payne
Speaker 1: at the start of the draft, and there's just nothing
Speaker 1: better than some melo drama from Brian brought us so
Speaker 1: we kicked it off the right way. That was well done.
Speaker 1: Good job, but good job that will be yeah, Brian.
Speaker 1: Of course, not on our coverage today. He will join
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Draft Show starting tomorrow and then all
Speaker 1: day on Saturday. But this is the draft show, and
Speaker 1: it's the twenty twenty one NFL Draft. Is David Hellman
Speaker 1: already alluded to. It is Draft Christmas, and there's a
Speaker 1: little extra excitement. There's a buzz around the building because
Speaker 1: not only are we doing this year's draft from inside
Speaker 1: the Star and not in our own bedrooms and our
Speaker 1: own couches and our virtual setups, we were all together
Speaker 1: in the flesh. Dane Brugler from the Athletic is here
Speaker 1: as well, flown all the way in from Ohio. We've
Speaker 1: got Kevin kt Turner the Great all the way from
Speaker 1: across the pond. I mean, Lake's Lake Louisville to drive
Speaker 1: on in here. I don't even know if you crossed
Speaker 1: Lake Lewisville to get here. Levan Dallas, let's right up.
Speaker 1: Seventy five Ponds. Yeah, that's okay. I'm Kyle Yeomans, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it is good to be here. It is and there's
Speaker 1: a lot that can happen. And Dan you you said
Speaker 1: it prior to us getting on with the show, but
Speaker 1: there's uh, there's a lot of talk around what's going
Speaker 1: to happen in the early parts of this draft. Of course,
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys select tenth in the first round, but
Speaker 1: there's a lot that can happen in the top nine.
Speaker 1: If you were going to give a quick synopsis of
Speaker 1: what's going to happen one through nine, what would you
Speaker 1: go ahead and summarize that? Ass quote Samuel Jackson, hold
Speaker 1: on your butts, it's gonna be fun. It's I think
Speaker 1: we can feel good about the first two picks, right,
Speaker 1: and then we can feel good about a quarterback going three.
Speaker 1: And then that's where things get interesting with the Falcons
Speaker 1: and which quarterback to the forty nine ers take at three.
Speaker 1: And it's almost like a fork in the road pick
Speaker 1: because if the forty nine ers go one direction, save
Speaker 1: Trey Lance, then that's going to impact how the rest
Speaker 1: of the top ten plays out. If the forty nine
Speaker 1: ers go Mac Jones, then that's going to send the
Speaker 1: top ten in a different direction and impact what the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are doing at number ten because of who will
Speaker 1: be available. I'm more most interested in. I think, where
Speaker 1: does that first trade happen? Is it? I don't think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be four, It's I don't gonna be five, six, seven, eight.
Speaker 1: Those three spots are where we need to be watching
Speaker 1: for a new helmet to show up in the corner
Speaker 1: of the screen to see who's trading up and who
Speaker 1: are they trading A four? Is it for an offensive tackle?
Speaker 1: Is it for a corner? Is it for a quarterback?
Speaker 1: So the back half of that top ten I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be really interesting with some trade action. You know,
Speaker 1: it's very fun to be h I mean, obviously you
Speaker 1: don't want to be picking tenth or whatever, but it's
Speaker 1: a little different. We've had a lot of drafts over
Speaker 1: the years where you're kind of there in the middle
Speaker 1: and you're going three, four or five six guys, so
Speaker 1: they might pick at ten. You kind of feel like
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a good player, but it does always
Speaker 1: matter who's drafting around you. And I can't help but
Speaker 1: think the Carolina Panthers with sharp teeth and claws. They've
Speaker 1: been come some sneaky little devils. Today at eight, what
Speaker 1: Denver is gonna do it? Nine? There's so much. It's
Speaker 1: the most unpredictable draft that I can that I can remember,
Speaker 1: and the fears we've been doing this here, so I'm excited.
Speaker 1: I mean, we know Trevor Lawrence is going to happen, right,
Speaker 1: and then it's like what happens after that? It's we fun.
Speaker 1: I was talking to Dane about that before we went
Speaker 1: on the area. I'm sure we say this every year, right,
Speaker 1: like there's intrigue every year and we well, we don't know,
Speaker 1: we don't know what's going to happen. But this really,
Speaker 1: I don't know, this feels unique to me. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: also it's probably a combination. Yeah, the Cowboys picked, you know,
Speaker 1: they picked four or five years ago with Zeke, but
Speaker 1: from the beginning you knew that the quarterbacks were gonna
Speaker 1: go at the top of that draft, and you really
Speaker 1: knew to a certainty that you're probably you know, Jalen
Speaker 1: Ramsey or Zeke Elliott, maybe Joey Bosa like piece of cake.
Speaker 1: The big thing this year is we just don't have
Speaker 1: those breadcrumbs, you know, like in the past of it
Speaker 1: with a combine with thirty visits, with you know, private workouts,
Speaker 1: we had more breadcrumbs to understand where these players were headed.
Speaker 1: This year, it's so intriguing because we don't have those
Speaker 1: breadcrumbs or as many red crumbs. And then the five
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that it makes it really tough if you're just
Speaker 1: doing a mock draft to match up. Okay, we know
Speaker 1: Lawrence is going one, we think Wilson is going to
Speaker 1: but then the other three quarterbacks where you're playing matchmaker
Speaker 1: and trying to figure out, okay, where do we put
Speaker 1: these guys. That's the toughest part of this and that
Speaker 1: will directly influence who is available at ten for Dallas.
Speaker 1: It will influence it. But also you mentioned that, Dave,
Speaker 1: because of how unpredictable this is because of the draft process,
Speaker 1: because there's so much of a lack of information, not
Speaker 1: even information, but just insider information, because you don't get
Speaker 1: to talk to these players or excuse me, these front
Speaker 1: offices and these coaching staffs. But you also kind of
Speaker 1: think those front offices and front offices and coaching staffs
Speaker 1: don't also get to talk to the players a whole lot.
Speaker 1: I mean in terms of face to face contact. You
Speaker 1: get a couple of Zoom meetings here and there, but
Speaker 1: then outside of the Senior Bowl, there's really no in
Speaker 1: person contact throughout the entire process. How tough is it
Speaker 1: going to be on these front offices this year to
Speaker 1: make decisions on who guys are off the field. On
Speaker 1: the field doesn't matter just because of how tough this
Speaker 1: process has been. Sure, Yeah, we actually you know, throw
Speaker 1: a little name drop in there. We got a little
Speaker 1: bit of FaceTime with Will McClay about an hour and
Speaker 1: a half ago and did a short interview for our
Speaker 1: dot com and talked about that, talked about how they've
Speaker 1: had to get creative and they don't have the access.
Speaker 1: You know, players aren't allowed at their facilities and they
Speaker 1: can say whatever they want about how well the Zoom
Speaker 1: meetings have gone, and they did say that, But it's
Speaker 1: just different, and you talk to any scout and it
Speaker 1: goes That's what I said way back in January. This
Speaker 1: goes back to August. Like, you know, the scouts haven't
Speaker 1: been they haven't had the access at campus that they're
Speaker 1: used to, they haven't had the access at games that
Speaker 1: they're used to. I doubt the average area scout knows
Speaker 1: the guys that he's responsible for half as well as
Speaker 1: he would in a non COVID year. So you have
Speaker 1: to find ways around all of that. And you know,
Speaker 1: any of y'all can attest to this, Like you talk
Speaker 1: to people that are on the inside of this. This
Speaker 1: whole thing has been a nightmare, and I'm positive they are.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's exciting you get to add new players
Speaker 1: to your team, but I bet they're ready to put
Speaker 1: this draft cycle in the rearview for a lot of reasons.
Speaker 1: I gotta say, I'm just kind of bummed up. And
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and Tim Tebow try to like spoil draft
Speaker 1: night by getting in the headlines. I guess, go away,
Speaker 1: we're having a draft. Make it better, though, Like what
Speaker 1: if I don't think he is, but like what if
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is really like on the block tonight? How
Speaker 1: fun would that be? I mean, I guess that hanging
Speaker 1: over it does add a little Days of Our Lives
Speaker 1: element to the show. I'll give you that, but it's
Speaker 1: not gonna happen in the end. I want to talk
Speaker 1: about you know who's gonna take is Mac Jones. Happening
Speaker 1: at three or Trey Lance or could fields me the
Speaker 1: guy at three? And all, what's Atlanta'm gonna do it? Four?
Speaker 1: And then are the Saints gonna try to move up
Speaker 1: from twenty eight? Will the Cowboys jump back in to
Speaker 1: round one? Will they come back in Toron? And like
Speaker 1: what all could happen? Like to me, I like all
Speaker 1: those stories not you know quarterbacks, you know, and back
Speaker 1: in the league. I go away, guys, that's a minor
Speaker 1: league baseball play. You're trying to play football again, which, ironically,
Speaker 1: tight end Tim Tebow could have probably had a decent
Speaker 1: NFL career if you had just agreed to play tight
Speaker 1: end back in twenty ten. So it's true kind of ironic.
Speaker 1: It's my fault. I brought it up out of the
Speaker 1: badam Kevin? Should we should we talk about it though,
Speaker 1: just to get it out of the way because of
Speaker 1: the news that dropped today. I can't even remember it
Speaker 1: was Schefter who who brought it up initially, right which part? Rogers? Rogers? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Should we just get that out of the way to
Speaker 1: kind of set the table, because it could, like you said,
Speaker 1: play a big factory into what's happened by all means
Speaker 1: do it. But do we all agree that we don't
Speaker 1: expect anything like that to happen tonight. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: we can agree on that. It's just it's really strange
Speaker 1: timing to do this. Now. You know, it's very very
Speaker 1: unlikely we see a trade, but it seems like there's
Speaker 1: you know, this is a real thing. This is something
Speaker 1: that is going to be ongoing throughout the offseason and
Speaker 1: Packers better figure it out. They better get this fixed.
Speaker 1: But I don't think that it's something that will necessarily
Speaker 1: affect what happened tonight at all. But you know, we're
Speaker 1: not gonna see a team. We're not gonna see the
Speaker 1: Packers trade Aaron Rodgerson. I think we'd feel confident about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah. And the report was that, you know, the
Speaker 1: San Francisco called Green Bay, but like San Francisco gave
Speaker 1: up three first rounders to get up to three from twelve,
Speaker 1: so it's not like they're a fun team to do
Speaker 1: business with. You know, there are some teams that you
Speaker 1: could see, you know, doing some moving and shaken. But
Speaker 1: I don't know, we got through it. We brought it
Speaker 1: up and we killed the topic right there. Nothing's gonna
Speaker 1: happen to night, I would imagine, unless it does, which
Speaker 1: I almost wanted to but that that is a really
Speaker 1: good point, Like we spent so long getting ready to
Speaker 1: dissect this, and that's yeah, don't do that any other day.
Speaker 1: Let us let us have this. It's draft Christmas for
Speaker 1: crying out loud? Do you so? Of course the Packers
Speaker 1: picking at twenty nine, and I don't think, like you said,
Speaker 1: we expect anything to happen with the Packers, specifically in
Speaker 1: quarterback situations at the moment. But Dave, you and I
Speaker 1: have the conversation upstairs earlier that we've gone through almost
Speaker 1: every single scenario, almost every single way that this top
Speaker 1: ten could work out in front of the Cowboys as
Speaker 1: you could. I mean, we started talking about this draft
Speaker 1: in December, whenever the Cowboys were three and nine. We
Speaker 1: were on the Draft Show and we were talking through
Speaker 1: this all the way through. But how likely is it
Speaker 1: that the players that we've pretty much talked about in
Speaker 1: the top ten stay those players in the top ten,
Speaker 1: or how likely is it for somebody outside the top
Speaker 1: ten to get into that conversation. I looked this up
Speaker 1: and credit to Dane Brugler, I have every I have
Speaker 1: every copy of your beast going back to fourteen, and
Speaker 1: I went through which not to throw shade at you,
Speaker 1: I hope you understand that, I just I went through
Speaker 1: your top one hundred and I just circled names that
Speaker 1: got drafted fifteen or more spots higher than you had them,
Speaker 1: or fifteen or most more spots lower than you had them.
Speaker 1: And for the record, you were right way more often
Speaker 1: than you were wrong. But it happens like six to
Speaker 1: eight times per first round. Oh yeah, and you know
Speaker 1: there's some really famous examples. Cleveland Farrell is the one
Speaker 1: that's just burned into my brain. Who's gonna be that
Speaker 1: guy this year? Well that's the thing, all right. So
Speaker 1: going back to twenty, I think I went back to
Speaker 1: fifteen and so six six years, it averages like there
Speaker 1: were at least two every year and as many as
Speaker 1: eight some years. And so if you're even averaging like
Speaker 1: five or six, that's with a more complete draft cycle, right.
Speaker 1: I think there's going to be even more variants, and
Speaker 1: probably not in the top ten. I think maybe there's
Speaker 1: like one or two surprises, but I think for the
Speaker 1: most part, the ten names we hear in the top
Speaker 1: ten will be names that we're used to. But I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna get wild once you get past about
Speaker 1: fourteen or fifteen in terms of like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: like that that guy? Okay, all right, I'm here for it.
Speaker 1: And that's honestly, you know, mock drafts. I would have
Speaker 1: no problem going over thirty two of my mock draft
Speaker 1: because you know what that means. He was a fun draft.
Speaker 1: That means it's unpredictable, and that's what's we're here for.
Speaker 1: That's what we love the NFL draft. We don't know
Speaker 1: what's going to happen and tonight, with everything we've been
Speaker 1: talking about the unpredictable nature of just this process, U
Speaker 1: five quarterbacks, we just don't know where that we're going
Speaker 1: to go in the domino effect that will be after that,
Speaker 1: the lack of breadcrumbs. It's going to be really interesting
Speaker 1: to see this thing play out. I think you're right.
Speaker 1: Once we get especially the back half of the round one,
Speaker 1: we're going to see some you know, I raising eyebrow
Speaker 1: raising picks that just maybe we didn't see coming. But
Speaker 1: I am. I'm also curious too, And you know, you
Speaker 1: beat we beat these narratives down and for good reason.
Speaker 1: But you know, we spent a couple months saying like
Speaker 1: this could be the latest the defender gets drafted in
Speaker 1: the top ten. Ever, you know, maybe the Cowboys picked
Speaker 1: the first defender and then Draft Knight comes around and
Speaker 1: we're hearing chirping that the Eagles might try to get
Speaker 1: ahead of the Cowboys for a corner. The Saints are
Speaker 1: apparently trying to move heaven and Earth to get a corner.
Speaker 1: And so you can't take any of this for granted.
Speaker 1: And that's I've been in the building all day. There
Speaker 1: is a nervous energy, oh yeah, emanating out of the
Speaker 1: football side of this building, like you can feel it,
Speaker 1: like you can feel don't know if I want to
Speaker 1: say terrified, but I just think that they're antsy about
Speaker 1: are we going to have our guys as the player
Speaker 1: we want going to fall to us? We think so,
Speaker 1: but can we afford to think that way? I think
Speaker 1: for us it's like this is like Christmas, but for them,
Speaker 1: it's more like before the Super Bowl. You know, it's
Speaker 1: before a big game where you do have those butterflies
Speaker 1: and you're wondering, Okay, what's going to happen? And there's
Speaker 1: a look inside the war room Jerry Jones sitting in
Speaker 1: the middle, Steven Jones to his left hand side, and
Speaker 1: then Mike McCarthy to the right hand side. Mike looking
Speaker 1: very dapper with the suit top and the handkerchief today.
Speaker 1: And of course, I mean you talked about the energy
Speaker 1: that's coming from that building, or from that side of
Speaker 1: the building rather, and this is just a couple of
Speaker 1: feet down the hallway from where we sit right now
Speaker 1: at the Ford Center. But goodness, I mean, Katie, you've
Speaker 1: been here for a couple of moments too. Could you
Speaker 1: feel it when you walked in, because like, like, like
Speaker 1: Dave said, we've been here all day specifically talking about it,
Speaker 1: But could you walk in and kind of feel that buzz,
Speaker 1: feel that energy that's across the hall. Absolutely. I looked
Speaker 1: at my Apple Watch the last night and I said,
Speaker 1: I slept for two hours, so I couldn't even sleep
Speaker 1: last night. I'm excited. I have no no idea what
Speaker 1: those guys are thinking, But you know, I think Stephen
Speaker 1: described it. I saw Nick Eatman tweet out that Stephen
Speaker 1: described as self is feeling nervous and there's a lot
Speaker 1: of there's a lot of outcomes that could happen. I mean,
Speaker 1: picking ten is what it seems like could happen here,
Speaker 1: sitting in there and just taking a good player. But man,
Speaker 1: the moving and shaking does feel eminent. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's the storm clouds outside when I got
Speaker 1: out of my car today and I quickly had to
Speaker 1: throw on this these nice clothes over my white T
Speaker 1: shirt and I started getting rained on a little bit.
Speaker 1: Just feel a little eminent that there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: little action tonight. So you know, another thing though, that
Speaker 1: I'll say about like this whole thing, it's really awesome
Speaker 1: to be in here because we've been doing this like
Speaker 1: virtually for a long time during the draft show, virtually
Speaker 1: to see you guys. It's it's been nice and run
Speaker 1: into people. But also there's nothing quite like the text
Speaker 1: messages you get a week before the draft from and
Speaker 1: Dane talks to more people tonight and people around the league,
Speaker 1: and just like I'm hearing this, I'm hearing this, I'm
Speaker 1: hearing this, and it feels like maybe more more of
Speaker 1: that going on than than last year or the last
Speaker 1: two years. So I don't know, man, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm glad I didn't gamble a lot on this draft.
Speaker 1: Typically I've got a gambling problem, just kidding. That would
Speaker 1: be a wonderful way to lose that fancy suit that
Speaker 1: you're wearing. Yeah, trying to gamble on the really fancy suit.
Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah, Dane specifically talking. I mean, one,
Speaker 1: is Gilbrand gonna call you at any point throughout this process?
Speaker 1: Because he calls you twice a show pretty much. Whenever
Speaker 1: are we going to get a call find Gil Brand?
Speaker 1: Have you kind of seen that as well? I mean,
Speaker 1: just the communication. Maybe people are just itching to talk
Speaker 1: to each other again after what was all of twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: but maybe here in this twenty twenty one process a
Speaker 1: little bit more of that information sharing. Sure. I mean
Speaker 1: I think that's it's everything's been different, so you kind
Speaker 1: of you have to think outside the box with how
Speaker 1: you attack this draft. And it's for those on the
Speaker 1: outside and for those you know, behind the scenes with teams.
Speaker 1: And it's been interesting because you know, I I talked
Speaker 1: to two teams about two hours ago. They're both picking
Speaker 1: on the top ten teams that I'm close with. Once
Speaker 1: that they think Trey Lance is going three. The other
Speaker 1: said Mac Jones is going three. So you know, thanks
Speaker 1: for hiring that up right, exactly. They know as much
Speaker 1: as we do when it comes to several topics in
Speaker 1: this draft. It's just it's a very unpredictable nature, and
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be it's gonna be fun to see
Speaker 1: a playout. It is gonna be fun. And the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: of course, have some pretty solid draft capital to go with.
Speaker 1: We we have the war room cam that we've already hit.
Speaker 1: We also have a look outside at the Tostitos Championship Plaza,
Speaker 1: which there's a party going on. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's outside anymore because it actually was raining. Oh it is, Oh,
Speaker 1: there it is. That's actually inside a band and everything.
Speaker 1: They moved it all indoors because of the rain. But
Speaker 1: of course, a COVID safe party out there in the
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Speaker 1: let's take a look at the Cowboys draft picks one
Speaker 1: through ten because we have ten hoole picks this draft
Speaker 1: this time around, want you to forget about the other nine,
Speaker 1: like you know when we talk about ten so much,
Speaker 1: which I realized today, Like you know, forty four, seventy five,
Speaker 1: ninety nine, we've beaten that into the ground, and then
Speaker 1: it's what one fifteen and one thirty eight and the fourth, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I realized. I was like, I couldn't tell you the
Speaker 1: number of the picks in the fifth, sixth, seventh round,
Speaker 1: Like we'll get to that when we get to that,
Speaker 1: because we got, I got and this is just me talking,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, I got some hay to make with
Speaker 1: these four top one hundreds. We can pick those later.
Speaker 1: But yeah, there they are, one sent twenty seven and
Speaker 1: two thirty eight. I see. And that's the thing that
Speaker 1: makes this draft so intriguing from the Cowboys side of
Speaker 1: things is because yes, you do have multiple picks in
Speaker 1: both rounds three and rounds four. So if you do
Speaker 1: want to maybe try and make some noise get back
Speaker 1: into the top one hundred, you have the capital to
Speaker 1: do so. And I know, David Hellman, you don't necessarily
Speaker 1: like trading up. You want all ten of those throws
Speaker 1: at the dartboard. But if you're able to get back
Speaker 1: into the top one hundred, isn't that a good thing?
Speaker 1: It just depends, It just depends on it. And I know,
Speaker 1: like that's such a woosy answer, But tell me who
Speaker 1: I'm going up for, and I'll tell you how much
Speaker 1: I hated or not, because if you're telling me we're
Speaker 1: going up for like an offensive tackle that I sort
Speaker 1: of like, but don't or we did this on Monday.
Speaker 1: You tried to get me to trade for trevon Marriage
Speaker 1: at thirty two, and I was like, are you insane?
Speaker 1: Like thank you, which I liked Travon married a lot,
Speaker 1: but I also like picking on day two. I love
Speaker 1: picking on day two. It's the sweet spot of the draft.
Speaker 1: But was I wrong? No, No, I mean I get it.
Speaker 1: It's it is really hard to part with those day
Speaker 1: two ticks. I didn't get to do enough shows with
Speaker 1: you this year because you're my You're my buddy. You're
Speaker 1: my buddy on the don't trade us, right, cut right.
Speaker 1: I talked to Brian all the time, Who's like, get
Speaker 1: your guy, it doesn't matter what Yeah, yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: Brian on this show. I mean day Katie ended up
Speaker 1: taking Gregory Rousseau. Anyways, with that, if that's on, y'all
Speaker 1: forgiving me the pick. If I want to, I sho
Speaker 1: wanted to make Jeff Mann. I would rather have Travon
Speaker 1: Merrigan No. Forty four than uh um wow Gregory. Sure, yeah, sorry.
Speaker 1: But we toy around with like draft exercises, like oh,
Speaker 1: we're all well nerds here, like we're at home and
Speaker 1: stood mock draft exercises, but it didn't really slap me
Speaker 1: square in the face until we didn't live when we
Speaker 1: got to forty four. It's like, man, five or six
Speaker 1: good players that I got to seventy five, You're like,
Speaker 1: dang five or six good players. Like, sometimes it's not
Speaker 1: always that easy. I mean, I go back to the
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill, it was kind of like Triston Hill or
Speaker 1: want Thorn Hill. We kind of got it narrowed down.
Speaker 1: Maybe a couple other good plashes. Like I was sitting
Speaker 1: there going at seventy five week ended that mock draft
Speaker 1: exercise the other day here on the Draft show, and
Speaker 1: I was going, WHOA, there's quite a few great names
Speaker 1: left for us to take at seventy five, and maybe
Speaker 1: some of those names will be there for you at
Speaker 1: ninety nine. So can I can I throw this out
Speaker 1: the real quick? Yes, it's not And I know, like
Speaker 1: I wouldn't like us as much like journalistic integrity as possible.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna throw out Twitter buzz because it is
Speaker 1: everywhere it is. There's a lot of hubbub right now
Speaker 1: about Denver making a deal for Aaron Rodgers's nothing or
Speaker 1: I think it's all coming back to this report was
Speaker 1: pretty plugged into the broncosization is saying he'd like won
Speaker 1: two Super Bowls there, so they would I mean, if
Speaker 1: if that were to happen. I'm just in that matters
Speaker 1: because we're talking we're talking about adding another quarterback to
Speaker 1: the mix because Green Bays probably not taking a quarterback
Speaker 1: at nine. I guess they could, but that's one pick
Speaker 1: before Dallas, and we've talked about a quarterback being there
Speaker 1: at ten and how that could bring up trade back
Speaker 1: possibilities for you potentially if that were to happen. I'm
Speaker 1: just the Cowboys. This does have ramifications that relate to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys of sport. No, if it I mean, if
Speaker 1: that were to happen, it's the team right in front
Speaker 1: of Dallas. Of course it has ramifications which and you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: journalistic integrity, we'd have no idea what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: But somebody, uh somebody tweeted at me a minute ago
Speaker 1: it was like, because y'all brushed that aside so quickly,
Speaker 1: it means it's going to happen. It's very true. That
Speaker 1: would be the most mean. Maybe things have been in
Speaker 1: the works for you know, weeks. Obviously, just because it
Speaker 1: really came to light, uh today, doesn't mean that it
Speaker 1: hasn't been being talked about behind closed doors for the
Speaker 1: last few weeks. So anything's possible. I'll still be surprised
Speaker 1: if we see a trade. Um, if if that helps
Speaker 1: make it happen, then let's that's great honestly, like O chaos,
Speaker 1: happy to bring it, like I'm giddy and like that
Speaker 1: has no effect on my life whatsoever. But just the
Speaker 1: thought of a player that good. Who Yeah, Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: is definitely still in his prime. He's the reigning NDDAH
Speaker 1: getting shipped cross conference on Draft night. I don't I mean,
Speaker 1: I can't remember anything like that. Would nine nuts? Well?
Speaker 1: Is it nine? And is it? Is it? Is it two?
Speaker 1: So you get nine this year? May do you get
Speaker 1: the next two first rounders? Even? Imagine what the package?
Speaker 1: Well look at what who's their GM? George Bayton? Where
Speaker 1: did he come from? Minnesotata? Who had to watch Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 1: You know, toy good morning for the last time many years?
Speaker 1: So far right? But he there when they got far? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm if I'm green bay I would want like the
Speaker 1: next four ones and Courtland, Sutton and maybe von Miller.
Speaker 1: Just throw it all on the truck if you want to. Bridgewater,
Speaker 1: just in case, Bridgewater and Drew Locke, just throw both
Speaker 1: of those guys into the pile. Let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: look at the draft order though one through ten to
Speaker 1: start things off, and this is what's going to happen
Speaker 1: in front of the Dallas Cowboys. And we're talking about
Speaker 1: Denver sitting there at nine. The Packers are all the
Speaker 1: way at twenty nine, so of course it would probably
Speaker 1: take getting up to that point and then jumping in
Speaker 1: front of the Cowboys. But this is how it goes.
Speaker 1: One through nine. Jacksonville, New York conclude the Jets, I
Speaker 1: should say the New York Jets, San Francisco, Atlanta, Cincinnati, Miami, Detroit, Carolina,
Speaker 1: then Denver. If we want to flip the page and
Speaker 1: go over to the Dallas Cowboys at ten, then it's
Speaker 1: a run of the NFC East teams because it's the
Speaker 1: Cowboys followed by the Giants. Then it's the Philadelphia Eagle
Speaker 1: at twelve, the Chargers, followed by Minnesota, New England, Arizona,
Speaker 1: Las Vegas, Miami, Washington, and then the twenties Chicago, which
Speaker 1: of course that's a team that could potentially trade up
Speaker 1: and try and go get a quarterback if need be, Indianapolis, Tennessee,
Speaker 1: the New York Jets again as they have their second
Speaker 1: first round pick Pittsburgh. The second first round pick for
Speaker 1: Jacksonville is at twenty five, Cleveland, Baltimore, New Orleans at
Speaker 1: twenty eight. That's a team that's been hungry about jumping up,
Speaker 1: maybe getting a corner. We just talked about Green Bay
Speaker 1: at twenty nine, and then the final three picks of
Speaker 1: the first round Buffalo Baltimore via the trade with Kansas City,
Speaker 1: and then the reigning world champion Tampa Bay Buccaneers at
Speaker 1: thirty two before we get into round two. But we
Speaker 1: keep talking about these trades in the scenarios that could
Speaker 1: potentially work their way up as Jacksonville Jaguars are on
Speaker 1: the clock now, Dane, you said there may have been
Speaker 1: talks between these teams prior to draft night, just based
Speaker 1: off of the report that we're hearing. If they end
Speaker 1: up being true, do you think it's more likely a
Speaker 1: team trades up to get a quarterback or maybe like
Speaker 1: a New Orleans team goes up for a non quarterback. Well,
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks, that'll go somewhere, right, and if we see
Speaker 1: quarterbacks go one, two, three, and then it's just trying
Speaker 1: to find the landing spots for those other two other
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks, and so it's most likely going to come
Speaker 1: via trade up. I think it's probably not going to
Speaker 1: happen where the Patriots are just gonna sit at fifteen
Speaker 1: and let the quarterback fall to them. It more likely
Speaker 1: they'll go it to up to twelve or somewhere to
Speaker 1: go get the quarterback. And then what do the Bears do?
Speaker 1: The Bears are in a really interesting spot with you know,
Speaker 1: Naggie and Pace and you know there their seats pretty warm,
Speaker 1: and so do they have clearance from the ownership to
Speaker 1: make a deal to give up the draft capital that
Speaker 1: would take to go get a quarterback. That's a little
Speaker 1: bit of an unknown right now. So you know, in
Speaker 1: New Orleans they're always a wild card. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: could they go up for a corner? Sure, they did
Speaker 1: it from Marcus Davenport four years ago. You know they
Speaker 1: could do it again for a corner this year. I
Speaker 1: know they really desperate for one. It doesn't sound like
Speaker 1: they feel good about the options that'll be available for
Speaker 1: them in the back half a round one. So I
Speaker 1: just keep coming back to these quarterbacks. And there's a
Speaker 1: good bet that Okay, Jacksonville and the Jets one two,
Speaker 1: But good bet those other three quarterbacks will not be
Speaker 1: drafted by teams that originally had that pick. Man, I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm in this I'm in this world. I've
Speaker 1: been thinking about the Cowboys pick so much at ten
Speaker 1: and we've been doing the whole like horned Surtan dance
Speaker 1: for three months now. Well, once the Farley injury happened
Speaker 1: right as we started doing that dance, and then you
Speaker 1: started like going okay, okay, So we talk about Rashaans later,
Speaker 1: we've talked about Penny, So we've talked about cowle Pits
Speaker 1: and you know, a lot of people roll their eyes,
Speaker 1: but at the cow Pits conversation at this point because
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem likely at all. And we talked a
Speaker 1: little bit about what if they consider Quitty pay with
Speaker 1: they consider Ojulari. The fifth year option for Layton vander
Speaker 1: esh is coming up, you know, gonna make that decision
Speaker 1: next week. I think that just throw Micah Parsons into
Speaker 1: the mix and we should be talking about him. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I think Micah Parsons is of all of the names
Speaker 1: of the short list, like he's the one that we've
Speaker 1: probably talked about the least. And to be brutally honest
Speaker 1: for yourself. I'd talk about it every week on Talking Cowboys.
Speaker 1: We do well, Yeah, I get in an argument show.
Speaker 1: Really I should say, do a show with the Micah
Speaker 1: Parsons fan club. Yeah, I really do on the Draft Show.
Speaker 1: And if I'm being brutally honest, I would say, you know,
Speaker 1: how many of us are are on this damn show?
Speaker 1: Like ten? People like the ten. We probably like Parsons
Speaker 1: the least. Ye is that fair to say? Probably of
Speaker 1: their of the guys on this short, realistic option two
Speaker 1: corners and two tackles and throw in pits if you
Speaker 1: want to, Sure so, Yeah, And I think that's probably why.
Speaker 1: But I you know, I think I think we've we've
Speaker 1: covered it, and I think it is something. I think
Speaker 1: it's definitely something to keep in mind. If this smoke
Speaker 1: about corners going earlier than anticipated is true. You know,
Speaker 1: it's hard to imagine with all those quarterbacks that they
Speaker 1: get completely wiped out. But if they're in a situation
Speaker 1: we're both corners and both tackles are gone and they
Speaker 1: don't want to bail on the pick, I think Parsons
Speaker 1: would be the pick. So, but that's the thing. I
Speaker 1: think Kat's even talking about is are we talking about
Speaker 1: it realistically from a cowboy standpoint that even if they're
Speaker 1: not wiped out, even if those guys are there, so
Speaker 1: they take them anyway entirely possible, like only they know
Speaker 1: their grades and we know that they like him. We
Speaker 1: do know that for me, for me, and again that's
Speaker 1: I can only answer for myself. For me, it's just
Speaker 1: about positional value. At number ten, I want somebody that
Speaker 1: has a much bigger impact on the passing game. An
Speaker 1: offensive tackle keeps your quarterback healthy. A cornerback helps you
Speaker 1: defeat other quarterbacks. Like that's how you win in the NFL.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, Michael Parsons is a great player. I honestly,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think I would hate that pick.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't hate an I'm not gonna say, like to
Speaker 1: they ruined this draft, right. It's more just that there
Speaker 1: are two or three other players that I'd rather have
Speaker 1: them on and Nicolas base though, That's the thing that
Speaker 1: I keep going too. So if you're you're telling me,
Speaker 1: if you draft Michael Parsons that one of Jalen Smith
Speaker 1: and Layton Vanderesh are not gonna be on the field
Speaker 1: a lot ideally that's what you're telling me, And that's
Speaker 1: where it kind of gets. You do have to have depth.
Speaker 1: I get all of that, but from the beginning you're
Speaker 1: drafting him, he starts and you're going to play with
Speaker 1: two linebackers most of the time. Sorry. I did do
Speaker 1: wonder though, if they did draft him there, would they
Speaker 1: have plans to use him as a pass rush Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean you look at it. He's three pounds later
Speaker 1: than a Z's audillarry. I mean like it. Plus he's
Speaker 1: an inch taller, so I mean he there's a lot
Speaker 1: to like about him as a pass rusher in in
Speaker 1: you know, any type of passing down. So you know,
Speaker 1: I think that if that's part of your plan with
Speaker 1: dan Quinn as the defensive coordinator, I then becomes a
Speaker 1: lot more tolerable in terms of value I have to
Speaker 1: And that's what that's what would sell me on it.
Speaker 1: Like if you tell me that Micah Parsons is gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, have six sacks minimum per season, I'm in, like,
Speaker 1: I can live with that. And dan Quinn, I know
Speaker 1: it didn't work out, but you know the foundationing that
Speaker 1: they always say the first pick you make as a
Speaker 1: head coach is really telling what was the first pick
Speaker 1: he made as a head coach, Vic Beasley, which is
Speaker 1: it's a I don't want to make a strict comparison,
Speaker 1: but it's a similar idea, right, So that's that's intriguing.
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith has some of that to his game. And
Speaker 1: then something we probably haven't talked about enough is that
Speaker 1: Kean O'Neill is supposedly going to play some linebacker here,
Speaker 1: so I could play a lot of lineman. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: he could exclusively play it, although I think that gets
Speaker 1: a little more difficult if you add Michael Parsons to
Speaker 1: the mix. But that is definitely intriguing and it honestly,
Speaker 1: it reminds me a lot of the Joey Bosa conversation.
Speaker 1: Remember Brian famously compared Joey Bosa to Greg Elliot and
Speaker 1: everybody who lost their damn minds. Greg Ellis had a
Speaker 1: pretty damn good career. Obviously, Joey Bosa seems like he's
Speaker 1: going to be much better than that. But I do
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, we've we've probably pooh pooed Parsons
Speaker 1: a little bit on this show, and like, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't hate him. I don't. I don't hate the idea.
Speaker 1: They're just other guys I like more. If that's what
Speaker 1: they wind up with, I think they can make it work.
Speaker 1: Who do you think is more likely is let's say
Speaker 1: both corners are off the board, what's more likely Rashaan
Speaker 1: Slater or Michael Parsons at ten? I think that's fascinating.
Speaker 1: I think it would probably be Parsons, which is interesting.
Speaker 1: And then maybe that's just the pressure on the defensive
Speaker 1: side of the football, a pressure to try and fix
Speaker 1: what has been broken on that side. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe it also that would also send a direct message.
Speaker 1: Whichever way they go there, that sends a direct message
Speaker 1: to me on how they feel about the health of
Speaker 1: Tyrann Smith and Lyle Collins, because if they picks later
Speaker 1: there over Parsons, who is obviously an upgrade to the
Speaker 1: defensive side, then you're saying that, Okay, we're pretty comfortable.
Speaker 1: See if he picks later over Parsons, you would not
Speaker 1: feel comfortable with Tyrant Smith, and then the other way around.
Speaker 1: I agree with everything you just said, but again I
Speaker 1: go back to positional value, because like Rashawn Slater has
Speaker 1: probably taken Connor Williams's job in year one at least.
Speaker 1: So now, which love you, Connor, and not trying to
Speaker 1: try talk trash on you, but you could maybe deal
Speaker 1: Connor Williams this weekend, or at the very least have
Speaker 1: the best backup guard in the league, or one of them,
Speaker 1: and then if something happens to Tyron or Lyle, you're
Speaker 1: ready to go. Let's rock and roll. So and again,
Speaker 1: why is this team gonna win games? And Dak prescot
Speaker 1: right and so again, that feels so much more valuable
Speaker 1: to me than Micah Parsons. And that's not a knock
Speaker 1: on parton. And the thing that with Slater that I
Speaker 1: love is the position versatility, Like he really allows you
Speaker 1: to get the five best on the field because he
Speaker 1: if you know, Tyrone gets hurt, he can play left tackle,
Speaker 1: If Lyle Collins gets hurt, you can play right tackle,
Speaker 1: you play anywhere on the interior. He gives you five
Speaker 1: position versatility. And I feel like that gets thrown out
Speaker 1: there a lot, but it is legit with Rashawn Slater,
Speaker 1: and that value right there, to me is why he
Speaker 1: should be the pick. But I mean, to your point,
Speaker 1: if they feel comfortable at the offensive line, the way
Speaker 1: it is, they really want to go defense. Just can't
Speaker 1: rule out the Parsons there, Dane, how do you rank
Speaker 1: those were players? Talking about the two corners, Rashaan Slater,
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, Because I think if we if we narrowed
Speaker 1: it down, if we had to narrow it down to
Speaker 1: four names for the Cowboys at ten, that would most
Speaker 1: likely be the four. How do you rank those one
Speaker 1: through four in general or for this team specifically? Let's
Speaker 1: do this team specifically. See it's tough, because that's I
Speaker 1: think Penny Stool is the best player of the group
Speaker 1: for a twenty year old to be at the level
Speaker 1: that he is to be both mentally and physically. I
Speaker 1: just I'm blown away by that. Penny Tool will be
Speaker 1: one for me, then probably certain, and then it'd be
Speaker 1: probably Horn then Slater. It tossed up between Slater and
Speaker 1: Horn for this team because they do need that another corner,
Speaker 1: and so I'd probably go Horn then Slater. But I mean,
Speaker 1: you're talking aboutour really good players. For that you could
Speaker 1: really make a case for belonging to top ten. So
Speaker 1: you know, I think if they have a choice between
Speaker 1: one of those four, that's not a bad problem. To have.
Speaker 1: It's not a bad problem, Kates. Specifically, we've talked about
Speaker 1: Patrick's or Tan versus j JC Horn for quite some time.
Speaker 1: Of course, corners out of Alabama and South Carolina respectively.
Speaker 1: How do you rank those two specifically, because I mean
Speaker 1: that could very well end up being the pick if
Speaker 1: they want to go toward the corner spot and both
Speaker 1: are available. Well before Caleb Farley got hurt, it was
Speaker 1: Caleb Farley and Patrick Curtan, right, and pretty big distance
Speaker 1: between curtain and Horn for me personally, So I have
Speaker 1: Curtan over Horn. You know, I wouldn't hate horn at ten,
Speaker 1: but I feel like Hornet fifteen sixteen seventeen eighteen makes
Speaker 1: me feel a little more comfortable. And I know that
Speaker 1: can sound like someone who's on the fence or something,
Speaker 1: But at ten, I think you should be picky about
Speaker 1: who you're taking, Like, I don't think you should take
Speaker 1: a gay that you're not comfortable. That's me now how
Speaker 1: they feel about him completely different. That's what it's all
Speaker 1: going to come down to. But you know, I do
Speaker 1: think it's very important whoever you have, you know, But
Speaker 1: I also get kind of annoyed, like when people talk
Speaker 1: about the draft with like this year. This year, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I'm embarrassed about what happened on defensive No, in
Speaker 1: the first round, you're drafting a guy for five years
Speaker 1: ideally at ten. There's a difference, man, There's a clear
Speaker 1: cut first round grade that you know you're gonna have.
Speaker 1: So to me, I've got a pretty big dividing line
Speaker 1: between Sir Tan and Horn Dave same question. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: and it's funny. I mean, I've I've been Certan the
Speaker 1: whole way and I think I picked him in our
Speaker 1: mock on Monday, and my reasoning stays the same, like
Speaker 1: I just to steal Danes. You know, Dane's been saying
Speaker 1: this for years High Floor. I cannot, for the life
Speaker 1: of me imagine Patrick's Curtan busting. Like maybe he'll never
Speaker 1: be Patrick Peterson, but he's not gonna wash out of
Speaker 1: the league, just like lake one treadwell, how dare you?
Speaker 1: I'm with you, man, I was right, there's pay There's
Speaker 1: no such thing as a sure thing. There's no But
Speaker 1: it's really hard to imagine Patrick's Erstan just feels safe.
Speaker 1: He was the man at Bama from day one. Rave
Speaker 1: Reviews as a player. Rave Reviews as a guy. But
Speaker 1: just you know, I've been in the office a little
Speaker 1: bit more than usual this week, which is, you know,
Speaker 1: it's fun at this time of year. You bump into people.
Speaker 1: It's thanks man um I which we'll see. I really
Speaker 1: don't know. And Stephen Jones said last week that they
Speaker 1: hadn't decided on a on a top cornerback. But I
Speaker 1: get the feeling that that, like dog, that whole thing
Speaker 1: about Scorn being an alpha, I think they view him
Speaker 1: as a potential culture changer, especially especially the coaches. Yeah
Speaker 1: that's you know, that's and you talk to the South
Speaker 1: Carolina coaches and they tell you the moment he stepped
Speaker 1: on the campus as a true freshman, he was that guy,
Speaker 1: and so that's something that resonates. Um. Now, okay, let
Speaker 1: me ask you this. Would you feel comfortable let's say
Speaker 1: both corners are off the board, but Slater and Parsons
Speaker 1: are there. Do you feel comfortable trading back Let's just
Speaker 1: say the Bears call. Would you feel comfortable trading back
Speaker 1: to twenty all the way to twenty? I would rather
Speaker 1: that phone call come from New England. Sure, but they're
Speaker 1: not calling Chicago was calling twenties. Harsh Man depends on
Speaker 1: what you give me. But well, okay, let's say take
Speaker 1: a lot, what a two this year, give me your
Speaker 1: one next year, and I would think about it. If
Speaker 1: it's for a quarterback, then yeah, one's probably I think
Speaker 1: I need next year's one. Yeah, okay, next year's one.
Speaker 1: This year's two, pretty good haul, and you would do
Speaker 1: twenty as well. Of course, you haven't figure out who
Speaker 1: I'm targeting, so you have to trade away. And let's
Speaker 1: just say one of the corners are on there on
Speaker 1: the board too, So you're trading away from one of
Speaker 1: those corners, Slater and persons to go back to twenty?
Speaker 1: Would you do that? If I'm getting next year's one,
Speaker 1: I'd be sorely tempted. And I'm so I'm just looking
Speaker 1: at it, especially from Chicago, a team that you don't
Speaker 1: think will compete as well as maybe some others that
Speaker 1: could throw your way into. They did make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: They've got a target on their back. I mean, you've
Speaker 1: got a head coach and a GM on job life support.
Speaker 1: I mean, if there's anyone who doesn't care about future picks,
Speaker 1: it's them. Now. Let may come down to like an
Speaker 1: ownership thing in Chicago but like they need to go
Speaker 1: get aggressive and go do something. So that's a team.
Speaker 1: I'm okay, I'm happy to do business. I'm looking I'm
Speaker 1: looking at you know, just because it's so funny, and
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that, Like I've been so focused
Speaker 1: on the top ten up until this week. I couldn't
Speaker 1: even told you the order of the teams in the twenties,
Speaker 1: Like I didn't care. Let's go get Barmore at twenty.
Speaker 1: I mean jump back here more a guy that Greg
Speaker 1: k Newsom. Think everybody in the world knows that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have eyes for Travan Merrick, like I'd like it.
Speaker 1: They like him a ZIZOJILARI does he hang around at twenty.
Speaker 1: I don't hate the idea of quitty pay at twenty
Speaker 1: a little bit. I love that actually, so yes, I
Speaker 1: think the answer is yes, I think I'd do that.
Speaker 1: So kind of going back to the corner talk, I
Speaker 1: do like the idea of maybe talking about potential tradebacks
Speaker 1: because I think we will see that the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: fielded calls and that might go into some calls in
Speaker 1: the future. But with the corners, and you kind of
Speaker 1: alluded to this as well, just kind of hearing the
Speaker 1: around the building and maybe what they're thinking specifically when
Speaker 1: it comes to jac Horn versus Patrick's Rutan. Do you
Speaker 1: think there's some pasts, demons, some ghosts that are haunting
Speaker 1: this front office about maybe the corners that they've had
Speaker 1: on this team in the past, Because if you look
Speaker 1: at Patrick's Rutan, that could be your Byron Jones. You
Speaker 1: might have had Byron Jones as Patrick's Rutan, that high
Speaker 1: floor guy, not gonna bust. He's gonna be a solid
Speaker 1: player for you, but he's not gonna do anything over
Speaker 1: the top special, where As jac Horn could very well
Speaker 1: be a Jalen Ramsey, a guy that you passed on
Speaker 1: previous in drafts and turned out to be that alpha mentality,
Speaker 1: that alpha dog. Do you think there's any of that
Speaker 1: conversation and that back and forth that's going on based
Speaker 1: off of some of the past dealings that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have done in the draft. I really hope not. And
Speaker 1: I know, like cornerbacks, it hasn't been something that they're
Speaker 1: wonderful at. Like Cheeto and Jordan Lewis were fine picks,
Speaker 1: they weren't great obviously. Mo Claiborne was one of their
Speaker 1: bigger Missus ever, but they just you know, Trayvon Diggs
Speaker 1: looks to be a good pick. I really hope a
Speaker 1: front office that's got as good of a track record
Speaker 1: as the Cowboys do. Granted most of those successes over
Speaker 1: the last decade or on offense, but I would hope
Speaker 1: you have a little more confidence in yourself than to
Speaker 1: second guess yourself because of that. There still is quite
Speaker 1: some time until the Cowboys pick at ten, but Roger
Speaker 1: Goodell has making his way to the stage. He's kind
Speaker 1: of working the crowd a little bit there in Cleveland. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas, you two gonna play. They had to drag
Speaker 1: the Kings of Leon off the stage. This is the
Speaker 1: most intricate stage I've ever seen. It's pretty impressive. Bernie
Speaker 1: secondmagine dragons fine, that's good. Jarvis Landry don't wearing any
Speaker 1: poople interesting here? He would be if Joe was up
Speaker 1: for in the strap. I have a few friends here
Speaker 1: with me. Let me do something, even though they don't
Speaker 1: need to be introduced to. First Jarvis Landry. Bernie Kozar
Speaker 1: true story, Bernie Coozar is my first Jersey ever. I'm
Speaker 1: shocked to hear the Cowboys Jersey's home. Where's Jason Garrett's guy,
Speaker 1: Brian Stipe? We all agree, But over the past season,
Speaker 1: one thing that we missed the most was all our fans,
Speaker 1: all of you, and we can't wait. Bernie. Bernie's a
Speaker 1: gud there telling you. I mean, with all of you
Speaker 1: respect to Joe Thomas and Jarvis Landry. What have they
Speaker 1: won in good point? Jarvis Landry got him to the playoffs?
Speaker 1: Kind of have all of you back in First Energy
Speaker 1: Stadium and every stadium across the league this season. Look
Speaker 1: up into the war room as well on the top
Speaker 1: left corner. So tonight to celebrate our fans, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have an NFL fan from out here that's back. Say,
Speaker 1: come up to this stage for each draft pick tonight, wow,
Speaker 1: and sit in that chair, which is a chair I
Speaker 1: did the draft from in twenty twenty. What I was
Speaker 1: thinking about Jarvis and Bernie picked the Jaguarer fan who
Speaker 1: comes up first? Guy, go for it. So they don't
Speaker 1: get to read the pick. They're just gonna go sit
Speaker 1: in a chair. So is that what's happening? In the
Speaker 1: immortal words of Brian brought us just make the pick.
Speaker 1: It is Goodell's chair. All right, we gotta winner. Goodness,
Speaker 1: we gotta winner. They're doing this for every single team,
Speaker 1: every team, and looks like for the first round. I
Speaker 1: guess maybe. I don't know if you get you fired
Speaker 1: up before we start tonight. So big Joe, Big Joe,
Speaker 1: not so big anymore, not at all. We had a
Speaker 1: pretty good year, Joe. We're doing this before the first
Speaker 1: round pick, our first overall pick. I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: on the Muni lot again. I think there's a draft
Speaker 1: making a pick on Saturday. So I'm just getting started,
Speaker 1: all right. We put the Jaguar fan in the commissioner's chair. Interesting,
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're still waiting for the pick from Roger Goodell. Oh,
Speaker 1: he's about to just put him on the clock. The
Speaker 1: pick's not even in yet. Oh of course not. No, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta throw this out. The Jags are gonna take
Speaker 1: eight minutes and I'm gonna hate every second of it. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm even looking at the clock here. Draft is now
Speaker 1: officially open. So it's officially open. That's the announcement that
Speaker 1: feels good to hear. Though we're here, man, Jacksonville Jaguars
Speaker 1: are now on the clock. People. People started texting us
Speaker 1: or tweeting us about starting the Draft show on like
Speaker 1: October fifteenth. Yeah, I think very Zack went down on
Speaker 1: October eleventh, So now on the clock. That doesn't get
Speaker 1: you excited, I don't know it does gets the blood
Speaker 1: pumped a little bit. I mean, I'm even looking. I've
Speaker 1: got the officials sheets from the NFL saying like when
Speaker 1: what time they're supposed to go? And round one Pick
Speaker 1: one was supposed to be made and turned in ready
Speaker 1: to go by seven ten Central time, So we're already
Speaker 1: what seven minutes behind almost more than that. We're gonna
Speaker 1: be on the air until this is twelve thirty So
Speaker 1: round one, pick thirty two is supposed to conclude at
Speaker 1: eleven thirty four is the quickest, twelve o three is
Speaker 1: the latest. So yeah, I mean it might be might
Speaker 1: be way well past midnight before we do get off
Speaker 1: the air, But so glad every one of you are
Speaker 1: with us and listening, and it's sure. I mean, Dave
Speaker 1: you just mentioned it's typically around the draft shows and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and uh, some of the fans out there
Speaker 1: who wanted us to start early, we did start early
Speaker 1: whenever the season was still three and nine. Yeah, then
Speaker 1: the Cowboys won three straight games and almost made the
Speaker 1: playoffs at seven and nine instead, And if you don't,
Speaker 1: if you don't think I've been hearing from Team Tank
Speaker 1: this week about like we could have avoid wood Its problems.
Speaker 1: If the Cowboys would have just lost to the damn Bengals,
Speaker 1: we would have lost to the Bengals. We would have
Speaker 1: been at four, and then it would have been Kyle Pitts.
Speaker 1: I feel like you would still be a little bit
Speaker 1: of Team Tank at that point. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's beyond our control. I'm gonna look forward, guy, I'm
Speaker 1: a I'm a don't stress about things you can't control. Guy. Point,
Speaker 1: would it be better? Would it be cool if the
Speaker 1: Cowboys had a higher pick? Yeah, but I can't expect
Speaker 1: a locker room of professional athletes to lay down and
Speaker 1: die because I want Kyle Pits you know. So here
Speaker 1: we are and it's fine, no work. You underman estimate
Speaker 1: the tank. The tank thing in football does bother me
Speaker 1: because that's a sport where you could literally get killed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: on the football field, Like, okay, you want to like
Speaker 1: a tank it in basketball and set guys or baseball
Speaker 1: like in football? I know, I know, it gets brought up.
Speaker 1: You can put worse players on the field technically, but
Speaker 1: it's really a dangerous thing to do. So I you know,
Speaker 1: let's just enjoy the fact that we got through the
Speaker 1: year and here we aren't ten. Ten is a nice
Speaker 1: place to be. Would you're there be ten or nineteen tonight? God,
Speaker 1: we were just talking about twenty ago. Urban can't sit still.
Speaker 1: That's a conscious decision, though, I mean, is urban? Is
Speaker 1: Urban nervous? Like afraid? Is he afraid? The phone is
Speaker 1: not gonna that's just always wired. He is a he's
Speaker 1: a weird guy like that. It's gonna pick justin Fields,
Speaker 1: Ohio state product. Wouldn't that be fun? Well, technically he
Speaker 1: never had him in Ohio States. He recruited him, though, yeah,
Speaker 1: he did recruit him. You think he makes this work, Dane,
Speaker 1: And by work I mean consistent playoff team. Well, when
Speaker 1: you have Trevor Lawrence, you gotta shot this is gonna
Speaker 1: be a big draft for then they have five picks
Speaker 1: in the first six five, So that's that chance to
Speaker 1: make over your roster to two twos or two ones,
Speaker 1: two twos and an early third. That's pretty good. So
Speaker 1: a really big opportunity for Jacksonville and for Urban Meyer here.
Speaker 1: So outside of Trevor Lawrence being the obvious number one
Speaker 1: overall pick here, which should happen in the next six
Speaker 1: minutes or so, But what's the next step for Jacksonville
Speaker 1: Because of course, like we said, we're gonna see them
Speaker 1: a little bit later on in the first round, and
Speaker 1: then they'll have the first pick tomorrow as well. What
Speaker 1: is that next need for the Jaguars overall ers? It
Speaker 1: just straight let the board fall to you and pick
Speaker 1: whoever's there. It's with a brand new regime, head, coach,
Speaker 1: general manager. You know anything's on the table because you
Speaker 1: know you you they inherited. It not a bad roster
Speaker 1: considering how how bad they were record wise. You look
Speaker 1: at the receivers Laviska and DJ Chark, and you know,
Speaker 1: the offensive line's not bad. Cam Robinson's back, and you
Speaker 1: know you can get better in spots. There's some players
Speaker 1: on the defense that you know, some high picks Josh
Speaker 1: Allen and Chase on last year. You know, Joe Schobert, linebacker,
Speaker 1: Miles Jack. They need to get better in the secondary.
Speaker 1: I think that's where you look at twenty five and
Speaker 1: thirty three. I'll be shocked if one of those picks
Speaker 1: is not defensive back, safety, corner, get better in the
Speaker 1: back half. And but Urban, Meyers said, he wants to
Speaker 1: be the fastest team in the league. So don't you
Speaker 1: can't rule out Travis Etn. You can't rule out in
Speaker 1: Elijah Moore, someone that will help add speed to that offense,
Speaker 1: especially when you you know Percy Harvin style, that that
Speaker 1: type of thing. So anything's on the table for Urban.
Speaker 1: I'm absolutely stealing this line. I didn't come up with it, obviously,
Speaker 1: But if you go one in fifteen and fifteen of
Speaker 1: those losses were in a row, just draft the best player,
Speaker 1: like you need everything, You need everything if that's your record.
Speaker 1: So that's that's a fun place to be where which
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see what they do, but you could
Speaker 1: take whoever you have rated the highest, and no matter
Speaker 1: what they play, you're probably upgrading your roster. The only
Speaker 1: quarterback in the Pro Football Focus cut legion Era to
Speaker 1: go grade over ninety percent overall as a true freshman.
Speaker 1: Oh and he repeated that each of his years since
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, the quarterback out of Clemson six foot six,
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirteen pounds Cartersville, Georgia and Dane. I mean,
Speaker 1: tell us just specifically about what kind of pro Lawrence
Speaker 1: could be. A lot of people will say he's built
Speaker 1: for this moment, He's built for the spotlight. He was
Speaker 1: certainly in it all the way out throughout his collegiate career,
Speaker 1: but now he's four and a half minutes away from
Speaker 1: being the number one overall pick in the draft. I
Speaker 1: think my favorite stat with Trevor Lawrence is he became
Speaker 1: a starter as a sophomore or as a freshman in
Speaker 1: high school, so he started each of the last seven years.
Speaker 1: His record over the last seven years college in high
Speaker 1: school eighty six and four. Four losses all came to
Speaker 1: the playoffs. So he's never lost a regular season game.
Speaker 1: Couldn't beat Joe Burrows, this is true. But he's gonna
Speaker 1: lose the regular season game next year. That that's going
Speaker 1: to happen, and so how does he handle that. I
Speaker 1: think that a big thing that you know is going
Speaker 1: to be part of the NFL. It's you're going to
Speaker 1: take your lumps, and for Trevor Lawrence, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: plenty of lumps on a team that isn't very good
Speaker 1: for you. Know, a rookie that's still learning the game
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, and the NFL is so
Speaker 1: much faster than the ACC. It's so much faster than
Speaker 1: facing Wake Forest and Duke. So how is he going
Speaker 1: to adjust how quickly that that's going to be something
Speaker 1: to watch this year in Jacksonville. I feel like he's
Speaker 1: really good when it is all okay in front of
Speaker 1: him and he's in the pocket, and then you know
Speaker 1: why he steps up when it's clean. He looks really good.
Speaker 1: And really when he's under darrest too, the way he
Speaker 1: kind of keeps his eyes down the field and can
Speaker 1: climb the pocket a little bit. Obviously he's a dual
Speaker 1: threat quarterback. They'll probably rain that in a little bit
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. So he didn't get hurt, but he can
Speaker 1: run as well. I mean, I know, like people got
Speaker 1: carried away a couple of years ago after his freshman
Speaker 1: year and they're like, oh, best things, it's Andrew luck
Speaker 1: and doing that whole thing. You know, when I watched
Speaker 1: his tape, the times he would get in trouble is
Speaker 1: when he was kind of trying to have a little
Speaker 1: fun and make throws that he shouldn't make. And I
Speaker 1: had like glimpses of Pat Mahomes. I remember Pat Mahomes
Speaker 1: rolling left and then just launching at fifty yards, you know,
Speaker 1: off his back foot donor into double coverage. And I
Speaker 1: was like, well, he didn't have to make that throw,
Speaker 1: but he didn't do it near as much as Pat Mahomes.
Speaker 1: But I was like, I'm not doing that again. I mean,
Speaker 1: you couldn't talk me out of this being the number
Speaker 1: one guy. And it's pretty clear. I know you like
Speaker 1: Wilson a lot, but it's pretty clear. Right, it is clear.
Speaker 1: The only thing that really worries me. But this is
Speaker 1: true with all the quarterbacks. The coaches make it so
Speaker 1: much easier on these guys. And you watch that clumpson offense.
Speaker 1: You study it and it's a very quick passing game
Speaker 1: where you know the ball is up and gone. And
Speaker 1: that fits Lawrence really well because he's really good in
Speaker 1: the quick game because everything he does is quick. His
Speaker 1: ability to process his release, his feet, I mean, for
Speaker 1: a guy that's six six two fifteen, he moves extremely quick.
Speaker 1: It's really impressive. So when he needs to slow things
Speaker 1: down a little bit and you know, still but still
Speaker 1: play fast, still play urgent. You know, can he do
Speaker 1: that at the NFL level when things aren't as defined
Speaker 1: for him like they were in the Clemson offense now
Speaker 1: specifically with Jacksonville and what they have moving forward or
Speaker 1: excuse me, after Jacksonville. I mean we already went through
Speaker 1: the order of the draft. The Jets are on the
Speaker 1: clock following the pick from the Jaguars, followed by the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. So I mean we've already mentioned Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1: We've talked extensively through that. The pick, by the way,
Speaker 1: is now in via the NFL network in the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 1: I wonder who that pick's going to be, But then
Speaker 1: it's onto the Jets, So the Jets would be on
Speaker 1: the clock right after this. And I mean Zack Wilson
Speaker 1: is supposedly that penciled in pick, but it seems like
Speaker 1: it's been more like pinned, Dave, because I'm glad you
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that if you didn't, and before
Speaker 1: we came on the air, I've been saying this all week.
Speaker 1: I said it during the mock draft, I talked about
Speaker 1: it with Dane. I think the world of Zack Wilson,
Speaker 1: but I'm confused as to why that it's just so
Speaker 1: obvious that he's the guy, and like nobody nobody thinks
Speaker 1: it's a smokescreen. Buddy's really mad that they're not taking
Speaker 1: fields or or lance for that matter. It's interesting. I mean,
Speaker 1: like I said, I think he's really good, but I
Speaker 1: just sort of feel like, I feel like his game
Speaker 1: is so similar to Mahomes and this is such a
Speaker 1: copycat league that that's what people see when they see
Speaker 1: him play, and they're just enamored of making it work
Speaker 1: with a guy like that who can make those types
Speaker 1: of throws and those arm angles and create plays out
Speaker 1: of nowhere. But at this I mean, you know, I
Speaker 1: think it's fair. Not certainly, not in terms of like
Speaker 1: what type of player they are, but I think it's
Speaker 1: fair to compare him to Joe Burrow just in the
Speaker 1: sense of like coming out of nowhere off the strength
Speaker 1: of one season. Except oh, by the way, he did
Speaker 1: it for byu against the rag tag schedule instead of
Speaker 1: you know, playing in the SEC and winning the national titles.
Speaker 1: All right. Roger Goodell working his way up to the
Speaker 1: podium for the Jacksonville Jaguars on the first overall pick
Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty one NFL Draft. He is having
Speaker 1: a conversation with his fellow Jacksonville fan that's in the
Speaker 1: chair here. He is the commissioner of the NFL Draft.
Speaker 1: With the first pick in the twenty twenty one NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars select Trevor Lawrence, quarterback Clemson. Wow. What
Speaker 1: a surprise, everybody. Everybody hold in your excitement. You know what,
Speaker 1: It's easy to be sarcastic, but just remember that in
Speaker 1: about twenty five minutes when men ask hits the fans,
Speaker 1: so true, so true. Trevor Lawrence is the pick out
Speaker 1: of Clemson. No surprise in I mean, we talked a
Speaker 1: little bit about him already, Dame, but I mean, this
Speaker 1: is the game changer. This is the cornerstone in the
Speaker 1: franchise now for Jacksonville. It's so amazing how the draft,
Speaker 1: how it affects franchise is long term. Like if if
Speaker 1: Jacksonville accidentally wins one more game or the Jets don't
Speaker 1: win a game and they have the number two pick,
Speaker 1: dees Er Ramier even take this job? Wow? A big
Speaker 1: reason why he took this job was Trevor Lawrence. Does
Speaker 1: he even take this job? And then you know, just
Speaker 1: how two different franchises can be you know, go in
Speaker 1: two different directions, or you know, maybe it works out
Speaker 1: great for both of them. Uh, you know, presumably this
Speaker 1: is going to be Zach Wilson to the Jets. So
Speaker 1: it's really really interesting when you kind of look at
Speaker 1: it framement like that. But may be Trevor Lawrence that
Speaker 1: he's got everything you want on paper. I think the
Speaker 1: only knock against him is you wish you were maybe
Speaker 1: a little heavier than two thirteen, maybe a little more
Speaker 1: body armor on his frame. But his athleticism, his mobility,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's him out running the Ohio State defense there.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so much the like about his arm talent,
Speaker 1: the way he processes. The intangibles are off the charts.
Speaker 1: So I mean, you can pull holes in him here
Speaker 1: and there, but it's just nitpicking. But he is. If
Speaker 1: you're going to draw up what you want the quarterback
Speaker 1: to look like, it looks like Trevor Lawrence Katie best
Speaker 1: draft prospect quarterback draft prospects since Wow, Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow,
Speaker 1: I mean, Joe Burrows. Is it a sense or is
Speaker 1: it more so than Joe Burrow? I really like Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1: So I think I would say Joe Burrow, but I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear Yeah, Dane, Well you're good, you
Speaker 1: don't want to hear from me. I just said that,
Speaker 1: you know, the big year with Baker and Josh Allen
Speaker 1: and all those guys, it was like, it's all pretty
Speaker 1: torn how that was gonna go with a lot of
Speaker 1: consensus point you know, and this is a big quarterback
Speaker 1: draft it turned out to be, you know, and it's
Speaker 1: like there was clear consensus from the start here, and
Speaker 1: I guess Joe Burrow there was. There was clear consensus
Speaker 1: last year. But from the time Trevor Lawrence schooled Alabama
Speaker 1: in the what would have that that would have been
Speaker 1: when the eighteen eighteen times a freshman true freshman. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Which it's funny people do that all the time. I
Speaker 1: even saw there was a mock draft this morning. If
Speaker 1: you don't follow college football, Oklahoma's quarterback as a kid
Speaker 1: by the name of Spencer Rattler, and they were saying like, oh,
Speaker 1: he'll he'll be the pick a year or two fromn
Speaker 1: howur or whatever. Like more often than not, people are
Speaker 1: so wrong about that. But we saw Trevor Lawrence coming
Speaker 1: two years ago and it never changed. It sparked conversations
Speaker 1: of should they let guys and instead of making them
Speaker 1: play three years, should they let them go pro? Now
Speaker 1: it's like, oh now? Or should he drop out of college?
Speaker 1: And then a final I love I love that point
Speaker 1: from Dane two. I thought about that this morning while
Speaker 1: I was walking my dog. If Greg Williams doesn't call
Speaker 1: the stupidest zero blitz in the history of the league,
Speaker 1: then Trevor Lawrence is a jet right now, that's all like,
Speaker 1: that's the difference. That's the difference. It's insane. By the way, Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: this is the thirtieth first round pick in Jaguars franchise history.
Speaker 1: Twenty of them have been in the top ten, including
Speaker 1: this year, Thirteen of their last fourteen first round picks
Speaker 1: have been inside the top ten. That's since two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight, Thirteen of their fourteen selections in the first
Speaker 1: round have been in the top ten. It was the
Speaker 1: Jags and the Browns together for a long time. Now.
Speaker 1: This reminds me, I mean and the Browns had so
Speaker 1: many years, especially when they were doing the Sashi experiment,
Speaker 1: where it felt like they had eight picks in the
Speaker 1: top one hundred. But this is the Browns chance, and
Speaker 1: it took the I mean, I'm sorry, the Jack's chance.
Speaker 1: It took the Browns a few cracks at it to
Speaker 1: finally get those picks right. But if they hit on
Speaker 1: most of these picks, it shouldn't be too long of
Speaker 1: a turnaround for him killing. An update on the old
Speaker 1: big story of the night that's outside of the draft
Speaker 1: to Aaron Rodgers thing, this is for me a big
Speaker 1: story that we said wasn't a big story, and now
Speaker 1: it's a big story. It could be okay, Ian Rapaport says.
Speaker 1: The update is Green Bay hasn't engaged at all despite
Speaker 1: a few teams calling about Aaron Rodgers. They have no
Speaker 1: plans to trade him. Nothing has changed. So that's Ian Rappaport.
Speaker 1: You know one thing that the packers only have like
Speaker 1: two million dollars in cap space, like it would cost them.
Speaker 1: It would be more expensive to trade Aaron Rodgers than
Speaker 1: it would be to keep him at this point. So
Speaker 1: and if they did a trade, they couldn't have players involved.
Speaker 1: It would be strictly for picks. So that's something to
Speaker 1: talk about. I know they're we're getting to have a
Speaker 1: little carried away in Denver throwing out some rumors we'd
Speaker 1: heard Mark Schlayer through was saying some things on a
Speaker 1: Denver radio station that trade was close to being done.
Speaker 1: But I mean it would be strictly draft picks. That's
Speaker 1: about it. That's about all they could do right now
Speaker 1: because great many camp space. I don't want to throw
Speaker 1: too much shade at anybody, but you see that from
Speaker 1: time to time where people get excited and I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe forget, forget that it's not a done deal, or
Speaker 1: forget that they're on the radio. Yep, that's a very
Speaker 1: good point, that kind of stuff. Yeah, it's like wildfire
Speaker 1: jets two minutes, forty seconds left on the clock. Here,
Speaker 1: we just saw Joe Douglas some fist bumps with the
Speaker 1: coaching staff Robert Sala in the war room. We think
Speaker 1: this is Zach Wilson, right, Yeah, I think there's a
Speaker 1: pretty good consensus that this is Zach Wilson, except for Dave,
Speaker 1: who apparently No, that's not what I said. It's just
Speaker 1: it's interesting to me that there really hasn't been any
Speaker 1: debate about it since probably Valentine's Day. Well, I'll be
Speaker 1: honest with I mean, in I did my first mock
Speaker 1: draft back in November, and I put Zach Wilson number two,
Speaker 1: and I took a lot back then it was to
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, but I put I put him at number two,
Speaker 1: and I took a lot of heat for because at
Speaker 1: then that was not a popular thing. I tell you
Speaker 1: what he won me over with how he played this year.
Speaker 1: I think Zack Wilson's a stud. His ability to be
Speaker 1: accurate from any arm angle from off platform just so impressive. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: did he do it a lot of that against lower competition.
Speaker 1: I mean they say lower competition meaning group of five teams. Sure,
Speaker 1: but I think we can still evaluate the player based
Speaker 1: on his throws, based on his decisions. And I'm a
Speaker 1: big Zach Wilson believer. And yeah, I mean, Dave, you
Speaker 1: were mentioning about Cleveland taking a while to get these
Speaker 1: picks right, Jacksonville getting taking a while to get these
Speaker 1: picks right. This is the same scenario for the Jets.
Speaker 1: I mean they've you talk about their last four real
Speaker 1: legitimate first round picks, none of them have worked out.
Speaker 1: They just traded one away, traded Jamal Adams traded. I mean,
Speaker 1: they've had good picks, but they've traded each of those.
Speaker 1: Quinnon Williams. I mean, there's just a name, a couple.
Speaker 1: There's no there's no nice way to set like. The
Speaker 1: Jets are a mess. The Jets have been a mess
Speaker 1: for a long time at this point. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean they're they're right up there with Cleveland and Jacksonville
Speaker 1: terms of like every year when we do this, they're
Speaker 1: in the mix for that top five picks. Since twenty fifteen,
Speaker 1: five of the seven first round picks for the for
Speaker 1: the Jets have been in the top ten, so a
Speaker 1: similar stat to what the Jacksonville Jaguars had. This is
Speaker 1: the third time in four years that the Jets are
Speaker 1: picking in the top three. I mentioned Quinna Williams, I
Speaker 1: mentioned Sam Darnold. Those were the two previous picks, and
Speaker 1: now the pick is in Roger Goodell working his way
Speaker 1: to the stage for the second pick of the NFL Draft.
Speaker 1: We're the second pick in the twenty twenty one NFL Draft.
Speaker 1: The New York Jets select Zach Wilson, quarterback b Y
Speaker 1: you two for two guys, two for two on the box.
Speaker 1: Now the draft can start. We knew this was going
Speaker 1: to happen. One two Hey, look, it's tough because you're right, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Dave when you talk about the Jets. But
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas, this is the second draft of general manager
Speaker 1: Robert Salick coming in his head. Coach, he just kind
Speaker 1: of hoped that with the new regime that they're going
Speaker 1: to do what's necessary to surround Zach Wilson with enough
Speaker 1: talent that will allow him to develop. Because that's that's
Speaker 1: so much about the quarterbacks position. Is not just the
Speaker 1: traits and you know how we evaluate him on the
Speaker 1: field in college, but teams have to develop these guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, they have to put talent around him. And
Speaker 1: look look at Sam Darnold. I mean with the Jets,
Speaker 1: they did not surround him with enough talent to even
Speaker 1: understand what he could do at the NFL level. So
Speaker 1: hopefully they continue to build on the offensive line, they
Speaker 1: continue to build pass catchers, and you know, just hopefully
Speaker 1: give Zach Wilson a chance. I'll say this, so I
Speaker 1: have the Jets in the group mock that we did
Speaker 1: on Monday, and you know, in prep for that show,
Speaker 1: I went and looked at their roster. Maybe I'm just
Speaker 1: being nice to him. I don't hate what they've got
Speaker 1: work in there, like McKay beck then looks like a
Speaker 1: great pick. Yeah, they brought in Corey Davis from the Titans.
Speaker 1: Denzel Mims was a high pick last year. We'll see
Speaker 1: if he can develop. Connor McGovern coming over from as
Speaker 1: a solid player even on defense, Carl Lawson comes in
Speaker 1: this year, gard Davis comes over from Detroit, and they
Speaker 1: got and now I was going to say, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at their picks right now. They pick again at twenty three,
Speaker 1: they pick at thirty four, they pick at sixty six,
Speaker 1: and then they pick at eighty six. So if they
Speaker 1: even hit on half of those, yeah, that's that's not
Speaker 1: a that's a team that will give people headaches. Like
Speaker 1: next year, assuming Zach Wilson is what we think he is, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're going to add a guard somewhere in there. They're
Speaker 1: going to add a corner somewhere in there. And this
Speaker 1: this draft could really be, you know, the foundation for
Speaker 1: something that could happen positively with the Jets. It's very
Speaker 1: very possible now with Zach Wilson specifically, I mean, it
Speaker 1: just wasn't one year for the by U quarterback that
Speaker 1: where he was a standout a lot of people will say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was his twenty twenty season. Sure, it's twenty twenty season.
Speaker 1: May have elevated elevated him to two, but he played
Speaker 1: significant snaps as a freshman back in twenty eighteen. He
Speaker 1: has that just cannon of an arm and a remarkable
Speaker 1: ability to throw the deep ball day. If I know
Speaker 1: you've been big on him, Katie, you've been really large
Speaker 1: on him. And we heard what Dana has already thought.
Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts, kat on what by U
Speaker 1: quarterback Zach Wilson's going to take to the Jets. I
Speaker 1: think you see the special traits. You see the arm talent,
Speaker 1: you see how he's able to make a ton of
Speaker 1: throws from a ton of different angles. And also I
Speaker 1: like that he kind of trusted his wide receivers to
Speaker 1: go make some plays. I mean, he's not not scared
Speaker 1: to throw you know, some tight window balls every now
Speaker 1: and then. And you know it's not like he didn't
Speaker 1: I think it through three interceptions, you know, last year,
Speaker 1: and it was a very fun offense to watch at
Speaker 1: by Youth and they do a lot of cool things,
Speaker 1: a lot of motion and things like that. I thought
Speaker 1: he had a pretty good clock internally, and I thought
Speaker 1: he did a good job of moving his feet to
Speaker 1: kind of create his own pocket when the original pocket
Speaker 1: faulters and things like that. So I think you see
Speaker 1: everything that you want to see. You know, I really
Speaker 1: like what you could do with Trey Lance. Zach Wilson
Speaker 1: Drey to go play, and I love Trey Lance. And
Speaker 1: I know we only have fifteen games of Division two ball,
Speaker 1: but like heys fcs sorry, you know, I just love
Speaker 1: it all together, even though you know, I mean you,
Speaker 1: I'm mean you and t fan, you know, hey here
Speaker 1: and chout out to conference USA. Umicked John, But you
Speaker 1: know I think he should y'all have fun with that
Speaker 1: on Saturday. Um. I love. I have no problem with
Speaker 1: this pick. I mean, to me, it got really close
Speaker 1: between Wilson and Fields and Trey Lance. To me, sits.
Speaker 1: And I think that's where Trey Lance is ideal for
Speaker 1: someone like San Francisco who already has a quarterback. Who
Speaker 1: Atlanta who has an older quarterback. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: that's a good spot for Trey Lance. So this is
Speaker 1: where we have a lot of fun. So here's my question.
Speaker 1: What do y'all think happens at three? I just it's
Speaker 1: it can't be Mac Johnson's camp. I think it's justin Fields.
Speaker 1: I think it was justin Fields the whole time. I
Speaker 1: think it was a big mop screen and I think
Speaker 1: it's justin That's that. And you know, people have been
Speaker 1: saying this whole time, like only Shanahan and Lynch know
Speaker 1: what's going on, and if good it's true, No, I know,
Speaker 1: and kudos to them if they can keep the entire
Speaker 1: league off their trail like that is a hard thing
Speaker 1: to do. You got people like Dane snooping around, especially
Speaker 1: whenever they have him been good at doing so in
Speaker 1: the past. Jed York has been on Twitter all day
Speaker 1: lessing with people, which if he doesn't know, then who. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like it might just be those two. I have no clue.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it's Mac Jones, but look, and I'm just
Speaker 1: a dumb journalist, but man, that seems silly to me.
Speaker 1: I spet like giving up that hall. I don't know, Man,
Speaker 1: they had to know who they were going to get.
Speaker 1: I would like to fund. I mean, that's my thing.
Speaker 1: And that's why I say it's justin Fields and why
Speaker 1: I think it's justin Fields just because they knew they
Speaker 1: were going up there, So let's smoke screen everybody once
Speaker 1: we do it, and then let's have some fun. Why
Speaker 1: smoke screen though, Yeah, because maybe you were so confident
Speaker 1: to go up and get Justin Fields. You wanted you
Speaker 1: spin all that capital, all that to go up to three,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you're saying, yeah, I
Speaker 1: want Justin Fields. That's who we're going to get. Then
Speaker 1: the jets at two were sitting there like, wow, maybe
Speaker 1: we should rethink this Justin Fields thing, and then they
Speaker 1: end up taking Justin Fields. You don't get the guy?
Speaker 1: You what is the ass head? And grin on Katie's
Speaker 1: face right now, I'm sorry, No, I texted Dane yesterday
Speaker 1: because Dane was one of the first people in the
Speaker 1: world to go Mac Jones is the guy. There's a
Speaker 1: few other insiders in on that. And then and what
Speaker 1: did I say to you, Dane when I text you yesterday?
Speaker 1: I said, I'm sorry, man, it's Mac Jones. Because I
Speaker 1: was told it was Mac Jones. Everybody was told it
Speaker 1: was Mac. I've been wrong before, but I've also been
Speaker 1: right before. And you know, I'll famously put it out there,
Speaker 1: like the time the Bears traded up for true bisky Oh,
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember that. Um, but I had to
Speaker 1: tell Brad jam I was like, hey man, just trust
Speaker 1: me on this one. Brad, I get it, but just
Speaker 1: trust me. I apologize to Dane. I think it's mac Jones, okay,
Speaker 1: but you want Dave was one of the ones that
Speaker 1: said it was Mac Jones original alogized. And it's not
Speaker 1: because I think that's what they should do. It's just
Speaker 1: that's what people will tell me, you know, like that's
Speaker 1: what just what people are talking about, and I don't.
Speaker 1: It's hard because again you do mock drafts based off
Speaker 1: your ears, not your heart, not your brain, what your
Speaker 1: ears tell you, and so you know, it's it's a
Speaker 1: really interesting spot. Look that's the forty nine ers war room.
Speaker 1: I didn't look like hiast the phone ringing. Well there.
Speaker 1: If it's not enthusiasts, there's there's probably people in there
Speaker 1: who don't want Mac. All I know is this is
Speaker 1: a Kyle Shanahan pick. It doesn't matter what anybody else thinks.
Speaker 1: Good point, This is a Kyle Shanahan pick. Whoever Kyle
Speaker 1: Shanahan wants is who they're going to draft. Does Mac
Speaker 1: Jones in your which of course he could turn out
Speaker 1: to be John Away, but like, does he have a
Speaker 1: significantly higher ceiling than what Jimmy Garoppolo is significantly No? No,
Speaker 1: I mean that's a hell of a lot to give
Speaker 1: up for not significantly better than Jimmy Garoppolo. I'll say this,
Speaker 1: if you're following Vegas at all and the hours leading
Speaker 1: up to the draft, there's a lot of action on
Speaker 1: Trei Lance. Wow. So the moment the trade was made,
Speaker 1: my I said, trailiance. That makes the most sense, lot
Speaker 1: of sense. Yeah, that makes the most sense. But then
Speaker 1: the mac Jones started talking, But I don't know. Trey
Speaker 1: Lance to me, makes the most sense in terms of
Speaker 1: fitting Shanahan scheme, the unique package of skills grooming. You
Speaker 1: have a year, you have a year with Jimmy Garoppolo
Speaker 1: to let him sit. He doesn't have to play. No,
Speaker 1: it's perfect if you're going to hold on to Jimmy.
Speaker 1: And I agree. I feel I couldn't give less of
Speaker 1: a rip about the forty nine ers, like I whatever,
Speaker 1: But I feel like sick to my stomach thinking that
Speaker 1: they could pick mac Jones. So the pick is in.
Speaker 1: With all due respect to Roger Goodell is working his
Speaker 1: way up to the podium. But I have just been
Speaker 1: told we are not allowed to use audio from Roger
Speaker 1: Goodell in the NFL's broadcast, so I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: announce this after he does. Really, Yepp feels new to that.
Speaker 1: It is a new thing that has just come down
Speaker 1: to pick Trey Lance out of North Dakota State. No
Speaker 1: Mac Jones, Trey Lance is the selection. And wow, I
Speaker 1: mean the smoke screen was real. We thought it was
Speaker 1: mac Jones without it was mac Jones, thought it was
Speaker 1: mac Jones, and then Trey Lance kind of threw his
Speaker 1: name in the pot and it ends up being Land.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's smoke screen at all. I think
Speaker 1: that the mac Jones interest was genuine. I really believe that.
Speaker 1: But I do think I disagree. I do think that
Speaker 1: Trey Lance, over the course of you know, the last month,
Speaker 1: really sold the forty nine ers with what he could do.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just the athleticism, the arm talent, the intelligence.
Speaker 1: It's just a very unique package. And he's unprecedented. We're
Speaker 1: talking about seventeen queer starts all at the FCS level.
Speaker 1: We're talking about a guy who was so good as
Speaker 1: a redshirt freshman with zero interceptions, leading North Dakota State
Speaker 1: sixteen to o record FCS National championship. But we're twenty
Speaker 1: years old and the meager experience. It's just a very
Speaker 1: unprecedented quarterback and a very unprecedented pick. And I know
Speaker 1: we live in a world where are you draft guys
Speaker 1: and they go play immediately, But I love when there's
Speaker 1: a chance for someone to go sit and learn for
Speaker 1: a year. I know it seems like a weird thing
Speaker 1: to do at pick three. That offense has a ton
Speaker 1: of talent on it. They've proven they can win games
Speaker 1: with Jimmy Garoppolo. His health is clearly a question mark,
Speaker 1: and they clearly have been unhappy with him over the
Speaker 1: last couple of years, kind of the same way the
Speaker 1: Rams are kind of unhappy with Jared Goff. But this,
Speaker 1: to me, it just makes so much sense for Trey
Speaker 1: Lance to end up here or Atlanta, And I really
Speaker 1: love it, and I love Trey Lance. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: so fun to watch him take over games in so
Speaker 1: many different ways with his feet, with his legs, and
Speaker 1: he had a game where he carried both thirty times,
Speaker 1: and he makes some crazy throws and I think everything
Speaker 1: you hear about him too off the field, and I know,
Speaker 1: and we were just talking about not knowing a ton
Speaker 1: about these prospects this year, are not knowing as much
Speaker 1: as usual. You hear that he's very, very intelligent and
Speaker 1: will continue to grow in that regard. I look at
Speaker 1: I look to say he completed sixty seven percent of
Speaker 1: his passes twenty eight touchdowns in twenty nineteen with no interceptions.
Speaker 1: He had one interception and three hundred and eighteen pass attempts.
Speaker 1: The bad news there is that he only had three.
Speaker 1: That's it. It's the one I'm I'm ecstatic, and that's
Speaker 1: I'm glad that my opinion doesn't actually weigh into any
Speaker 1: of this because I'll just admit it, like I'm a
Speaker 1: sucker for fun. I want fun. Well, when Trey Lance
Speaker 1: rolls out and just that thing is a howitzer, like
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is jealous of this dude's arm strength, that's
Speaker 1: an exaggeration, but I mean it's insane, and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: we let's do this. And yeah, I mean San Francisco,
Speaker 1: you're removed from a super Bowl. There's talent there. They
Speaker 1: didn't they don't need to, like, they don't need to
Speaker 1: draft somebody to get over the top. They can contend
Speaker 1: with what they have and this guy, you know, this
Speaker 1: guy could be there ready to step in. And again,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like Zach Wilson looking like Mahomes on tape,
Speaker 1: but it does. It reminds you of what the Chiefs did.
Speaker 1: Like Mahomes didn't play he I think he played Week
Speaker 1: seventeen of his rookie year when the playoffs were locked up,
Speaker 1: and this you know, he has the potential to do
Speaker 1: something similar. I really do think they had a lot
Speaker 1: of confidence going up and they knew it was going
Speaker 1: to be Trey Lance going into I think there was
Speaker 1: some interest from Mac Jones potentially, but I think overall
Speaker 1: it was Trey Lance or somebody changed our mind. I
Speaker 1: think whenever they made that trade, gave up multiple first
Speaker 1: round picks and traded with Miami to get that third
Speaker 1: overall pick. And Katie, you mentioned about off the field
Speaker 1: with Trey Lance, and we've already mentioned it just how
Speaker 1: hard it is from a scout standpoint, from an front
Speaker 1: office standpoint to know these guys and to know who
Speaker 1: they are as a person, especially if they're going to
Speaker 1: be a franchise quarterback for years. To come. The father
Speaker 1: played for Southwest Minnesota State, joined NFL camps with the
Speaker 1: Oilers and the forty nine Ers before playing in the
Speaker 1: CFL for Saskatchewan, so there was a connection there. And
Speaker 1: now Trey Lance is going to be a forty nine
Speaker 1: er himself, and well that would be a lot of
Speaker 1: fun over the next couple of years. We'll see what
Speaker 1: that ends up happening. So far, the quarterbacks have gone
Speaker 1: the way personally I had them ranked with Lawrence Wilson
Speaker 1: and Lance and what we surprised. Dame Peler is right.
Speaker 1: I'd rather be right three years from now then right now,
Speaker 1: you know. But we'll see what. Uh you know, where
Speaker 1: does fields going now? And that's the question, where does
Speaker 1: Mac Jones go now? Where does it go now? So
Speaker 1: that that's the first thing I thought about, is it
Speaker 1: reminds me I keep making these ridiculous comparisons to like
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame complain, I love it. The debate in
Speaker 1: two thousand, what was that five or six? Alex Smith
Speaker 1: or Aaron Rodgers at one, Rogers doesn't go one and
Speaker 1: he falls all the way to twenty three. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that's going to happen to Mac Jones, but this
Speaker 1: was the place where he was linked for the last
Speaker 1: two months, and now we have no clue who loves
Speaker 1: this guy my interest? Does Carolina like mac Jones enough
Speaker 1: to draft him eighth? Does somebody come up for him? Doesn't?
Speaker 1: Could he fall? Like could mac Jones fall to like twenty?
Speaker 1: What's Denver doing at nine? What's stupid? Aaron Rodgers room.
Speaker 1: We're going around and it's like if if, if Denver
Speaker 1: could get Justin Fields at nine, and then they can
Speaker 1: just let that play out between Justin Fields and Drew Lock.
Speaker 1: Don't you kind of can it? Or that if you're
Speaker 1: Denver at nine, you could and Justin Fields And it
Speaker 1: feels like teams will like Justin Fields more than mac Jones.
Speaker 1: I want to be a jerk. Mac Jones is my
Speaker 1: fiftieth ranked player. Like I was just stacking him up
Speaker 1: and I was like, nod, take him over him and
Speaker 1: I'd take him over into and maybe it's a dumb,
Speaker 1: small sample size exercise. But when I was told they
Speaker 1: put them together and I was like, man, I guess
Speaker 1: I gotta squeeze mac Jones into my top fifty. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't have any interest in a quarterback who can't
Speaker 1: move in twenty twenty one totally, Like I just I
Speaker 1: don't have any interest in that, and that's why I
Speaker 1: had him way down there. But it's like, I think
Speaker 1: other teams are gonna feel the same way, and that's
Speaker 1: why the mac Jones thing was so sketchy from the beginning.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing I was talking about with Parsons, Like,
Speaker 1: I think mac Jones is a good player, he's probably
Speaker 1: worth the first round pick. Yeah, it's just when you're
Speaker 1: talking about trading up to three to do it where
Speaker 1: I get dubious. I'm just like, something's crazy here, and
Speaker 1: whatever team takes him, their friends are gonna do mac
Speaker 1: Jones who? Mac Jones? Who? Very years? I mean, because
Speaker 1: it's it's right there, it's great, you have to do it.
Speaker 1: So Atlanta has submitted their pick that he's in for
Speaker 1: the funcon heartbroken. I was about to ask you that
Speaker 1: exact same question. Is this Kyle Pitts? Is this the
Speaker 1: fourth quarterback? By the way, first time since ninety nine
Speaker 1: that the first three picks were all quarterbacks. If four
Speaker 1: quarterbacks go in a row, it'll be the first time ever.
Speaker 1: But no tight end has ever been selected in the
Speaker 1: first four picks of the NFL Draft. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: see history either way here with Atlanta. If they're gonna
Speaker 1: either take tight end Kyle Pitts out of Florida or
Speaker 1: if they pick a quarterback, it'll be the first time
Speaker 1: either way that we'll see something new in the NFL
Speaker 1: Draft here in twenty twenty one. So that's a little exciting, Dave.
Speaker 1: You'll get your spirits up a little if Kyle Pitts
Speaker 1: is off the board, which I mean, you know it's coming.
Speaker 1: I was like, I made peace with Pits going a
Speaker 1: long time ago, Like I I'm not stupid enough to
Speaker 1: take you though you know I really did, and I,
Speaker 1: like everybody knows I love Pits, but I'm not. I'm
Speaker 1: not in denial either. And if he doesn't go at four,
Speaker 1: he'll go at six like he ain't. It ain't happening.
Speaker 1: You're not Lightning's not striking twice like Lamb was. Lamb
Speaker 1: was a miracle. You're not getting an even bigger miracle.
Speaker 1: So I think this is probably Pits. But even if
Speaker 1: it's not, I'm not holding my breath. So when are
Speaker 1: you allowed to say it? Kyle? I guess whenever I
Speaker 1: read the bottom line on the screen. So the Falcons
Speaker 1: the fourth overall pick in the twenty twenty one NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons select he is hide in Kyle Pitts
Speaker 1: out of Florida. So the dream is crushed. He is
Speaker 1: not a Dallas Cowboy. Instead, he will be playing for
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn's old team in the Atlanta Falcons. But this
Speaker 1: is the pick that we kind of anticipated, the hellman dream,
Speaker 1: because I think a lot of Cowboys fans did kind
Speaker 1: of go, no, you don't defense. I don't know, I
Speaker 1: swear a lot of people. I was one of those people.
Speaker 1: Me too. You don't pass on him, we don't. That's
Speaker 1: the thing. You don't want to be the team that says,
Speaker 1: you know, we passed on special. And that's what you
Speaker 1: keep coming back to with Kyle Pits. He is just
Speaker 1: a different type of dude. He forces the defense to
Speaker 1: just played differently with the way he can attack, the
Speaker 1: way he can line up all over the formation. There's
Speaker 1: so much you can do with a talent like that,
Speaker 1: just to he's a rare, rare player, and people will say, oh,
Speaker 1: it was the last time a talk or. I then
Speaker 1: went top ten and actually worked out. Well, when's the
Speaker 1: last time we saw a guy like Kyle Pitts. We don't.
Speaker 1: We've never seen a guy like this, So, I mean,
Speaker 1: this is just a rare occurrence with a rare player,
Speaker 1: a special player who we don't know. Julio Jones. If
Speaker 1: he's going to be an Outlanta much longer, we just
Speaker 1: don't know that. But regardless, he's going to help that
Speaker 1: offense and Arthur Smith coming in, new head coach, new
Speaker 1: play caller. We know the falcon or you know, he
Speaker 1: likes to use the tight end a lot in that offense.
Speaker 1: So it's just a natural fit. If he were a
Speaker 1: wide receiver, he would have been thrown the nation and
Speaker 1: yards per route run. This is not one of those
Speaker 1: guys you're throwing screens too, and he like some of
Speaker 1: these you know, waddle and you know some of these
Speaker 1: wide receivers Straft were a lot of you know, near
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage completions. You know, when you look
Speaker 1: at thirty nine of his forty three catches were for
Speaker 1: a touchdown or a first down. It's insane. And the
Speaker 1: other thing too, thirty nine forty three, Yes, that's zero drops.
Speaker 1: It's easy and you know, quarterbacks are so valuable. I
Speaker 1: get it, but Matt Ryan's contract is a beast, Like
Speaker 1: they can't really get away from that thing. And so
Speaker 1: what do you do there, Like do you draft a
Speaker 1: quarterback and try to get rid of Matt Ryan in
Speaker 1: a year or two and then carry the forty million
Speaker 1: in dead money on your cap just because you want
Speaker 1: to have a new quarterback. I don't think it makes
Speaker 1: a ton of sense. So I think the Falcons are
Speaker 1: right that their best bet is probably to load up
Speaker 1: and help Matt Ryan as much as you can for
Speaker 1: you know, whatever's left of his career. Look at its
Speaker 1: fifty five percent of his snaps for in line, twenty
Speaker 1: four percent in the slot, twenty one percent outside. He
Speaker 1: can do anything with him, which we've talked about a lot.
Speaker 1: I still if I was the GM in Atlanta, I
Speaker 1: would have taken justin fields because I just think when
Speaker 1: you're up there and you have a quarterback at the
Speaker 1: edge of Matt Ryan, you just you got to move
Speaker 1: it on down the road a little bit. At some point,
Speaker 1: I think the GM did want to go quarterback, but
Speaker 1: I think the head coach was like, no, we're gonna
Speaker 1: win now. I really think Arthur Smith looked at it
Speaker 1: and said, Matt Ryan is you know he's not done.
Speaker 1: You know he's gonna help us compete. And you add
Speaker 1: a talent like Kyle Pitts, and you know we got
Speaker 1: a chance to go out there and makes something happen.
Speaker 1: You look at that offense, I mean you they're going
Speaker 1: to draft a running back probably at some point, and
Speaker 1: that that offense is looking kind of scary. Matt Ryan.
Speaker 1: I mean, right now, the running back would be Mike Davis.
Speaker 1: You've got Julio Jones, Calvin Ridley, Kyle Pitts, and Kyle
Speaker 1: Pitts specifically. I mean he he even talked about it
Speaker 1: with his interview with the Cowboys and we saw it
Speaker 1: on the social media page. He watches a lot of
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey. He's been I mean, at least coming out
Speaker 1: of college better than Travis Kelsey. Let all the FBS
Speaker 1: tight ends and receiving touchdowns. Tied single game school record
Speaker 1: at Florida for receiving touchdowns and that's as a tight end,
Speaker 1: highest ever selected tight end in NFL draft history, all
Speaker 1: the way up to four. He's special, But canny take
Speaker 1: that offense to the left next level and like Dan said,
Speaker 1: try and win now the answers yes, well. And then
Speaker 1: another point too, is the NFC South isn't a little
Speaker 1: bit of a transition. I mean the Drew Brees saying
Speaker 1: are done and you know the reigning champ is in
Speaker 1: the South. I get that. But Tom Brady's going to
Speaker 1: retire eventually, I would I would guess. Maybe I shouldn't
Speaker 1: bet on that, but I would guess Tom Brady's going
Speaker 1: to retire before Matt Ryan. Like that seems plausibles. And
Speaker 1: plus he may retire after you retire. Well that's I
Speaker 1: hope not lord, but um yeah. And you know, seven
Speaker 1: teams get into the playoffs now as opposed to six,
Speaker 1: So like it like it's not out of the realm
Speaker 1: of possibility that Atlanta as a playoff contender. I think
Speaker 1: they probably are if they can add some beef to
Speaker 1: their defense. I think they were much like Dallas last
Speaker 1: year and that they were hurt, they were banged up,
Speaker 1: and they had a very disappointing year. I don't know
Speaker 1: if the expectations were as high in Atlanta, but they
Speaker 1: certainly have the firepower, especially with a pick like this.
Speaker 1: To get back in the conversation, you know who's really
Speaker 1: kind of kicking themselves right now is Kyle Pitts. Where
Speaker 1: he originally went to high school. He wanted to be
Speaker 1: a tight end, but he played quarterback and the coaches
Speaker 1: wouldn't move him the tight end. They said no, So
Speaker 1: he transferred becomes a tight end. Now he's the fourth
Speaker 1: overall pick in the NFL Draft. Somewhere those coaches are
Speaker 1: in there saying, Wow, maybe he was right, Maybe we
Speaker 1: should have moved in toight end. Yeah. Probably, Oh that's bad.
Speaker 1: All right. Cincinnati's on the clock, the Bengals at five.
Speaker 1: You talked about crossroads with Atlanta. I mean, here's the
Speaker 1: ultimate crossroads. And the next four picks are going to
Speaker 1: go a certain direction based off of what Cincinnati does here,
Speaker 1: because the Bengals at five, Dolphins at six, Detroit at seven,
Speaker 1: and then you've got the Carolina Panthers at eight, nine,
Speaker 1: the Broncos, and then of course the Cowboys picking at ten.
Speaker 1: But the pick is about to be in here for Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: How are they going to help out your fellow Joe Burrow?
Speaker 1: I don't really think they can go wrong. And I've
Speaker 1: said before, you know, protecting Joe, you know, it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter who he's throwing too. If he's on the ground
Speaker 1: all the time, I would probably draft Pinney Sewell. But
Speaker 1: they pick again at thirty eight. I believe there. You
Speaker 1: know there will be a tackle there at thirty eight
Speaker 1: and you know everything you hear. But on this draft classes,
Speaker 1: regardless of how deep it is, your top three receivers
Speaker 1: are different. And I doubt it is being ignored in
Speaker 1: the Bengals front office that Jamar Chase won the bullet
Speaker 1: nikoff with Joe Burrow, So I don't really think they
Speaker 1: can go wrong. If you're a Cowboy fan, you probably
Speaker 1: want them to take Chase because that pushes a guy
Speaker 1: you would consider drafting down the board. Yeah, like Piney
Speaker 1: Sewell going here would be that would be the first
Speaker 1: of the Cowboy related names to go off the board.
Speaker 1: And it also might take a chance or that jayal
Speaker 1: and Waddle is off the board as well, because if
Speaker 1: you're Miami sitting at six, you want a pass catcher
Speaker 1: to go help out to h you want to maybe
Speaker 1: look at one of those guys you could go offensive line.
Speaker 1: If I was Duke tob And, I would probably draft
Speaker 1: Pinay Sewell, but I cannot blame them if they draft
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, and I think it's probably better for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys if they do ye ten years ago this weekend,
Speaker 1: they drafted aj Green in the first round but four overall,
Speaker 1: so you know, you could see them doing that again.
Speaker 1: They need to replace over one hundred targets that Aja
Speaker 1: Green had this year. They're really missing that downfield threat
Speaker 1: in that offense. So it is not hard to talk
Speaker 1: yourself into Jamar Chase here. Yeah, And I talk to
Speaker 1: someone who's close to the citciinat Bengals yesterday and he
Speaker 1: said he thinks they're leaning Chase because quite frankly, that
Speaker 1: they still thought Seul was a developing guy, and they
Speaker 1: really like what they have on the offensive line. They
Speaker 1: like Joanah Williams. They think they have their tack, they
Speaker 1: think they're set there. So unless they're going to draft
Speaker 1: Seul to play guard, and that's a that's kind of
Speaker 1: a strange thing to do it five Now, I'm a
Speaker 1: fan of the Bengals ability to if Joe Burrow is healthy,
Speaker 1: and what you can do with Higgins and what you
Speaker 1: can do with Tyler Boyd, and I think I would
Speaker 1: almost want a shiftier guy, even though Chase is my
Speaker 1: number one wide receiver. I think a better fit might
Speaker 1: be someone who can go win a little bit in
Speaker 1: the slot when Devade Smith, or someone a little more
Speaker 1: fun like Jalen Waddle. But now it seems like they've
Speaker 1: been pretty dead set on Chase or Suel for a
Speaker 1: long time, and it feels like Chase is the direction
Speaker 1: they'll probably go. I'm trying not to let my like
Speaker 1: LSU homerism jump out of me right now, but well,
Speaker 1: here I can do it for you. How about how
Speaker 1: about this? I can do it for you. And the
Speaker 1: reason why is because you have your LSU Homerism producing
Speaker 1: the top wide receiver in rookie in FL history and
Speaker 1: justin Jefferson last year. And of course he was even
Speaker 1: an afterthought of how good Jamar Chase was on that
Speaker 1: LSU championship team. I mean, people forget just how good
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase was. At the risk of sounding like a Homer,
Speaker 1: I think the entire football world is asleep on how
Speaker 1: good Jamar Chase really was. Unbelievable. He's a bully down
Speaker 1: the field. He's gonna beat you for a jump ball.
Speaker 1: He can play in the slot, by the way, he
Speaker 1: can house it from sixty seventy yards away from the slot.
Speaker 1: Granted that was college football as opposed to pro. But
Speaker 1: the point is he you know, he doesn't have the
Speaker 1: speed that Jayalen Wattle does because nobody in the world does.
Speaker 1: But Jamar Chase can do it all. Don't they have?
Speaker 1: Don't they have Thaddius Mosson said Sinnatti two. I don't
Speaker 1: even I mean, yes, they just signed him that after.
Speaker 1: I know, I'm just saying, maybe they'd pick up Terris
Speaker 1: Marshall in round two. You just loaded up get the band.
Speaker 1: That was a good team. You know was on that team?
Speaker 1: Tyler Shelvin, I love you know, we're sitting here, we're
Speaker 1: talking about Aaron Rodgers being unhappy with Green Bay because
Speaker 1: they won't help him. And in year two, the Bengals
Speaker 1: are like, you want your college receiver. Yeah, we'll get
Speaker 1: you your college receiver. So Goodell is at the stand
Speaker 1: and with the fifth pick in the NFL Draft, the
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals select wide receiver Jamar Chase out of LSU.
Speaker 1: What What I Say on the Draft show said Jamar
Speaker 1: Chase was the only pick in the top ten outside
Speaker 1: of the top two that I felt confident about. Uh,
Speaker 1: that it's just a very Bengals pick to go Jamar
Speaker 1: Chase here, and I get it. I understand it. Uh,
Speaker 1: they're a better team right now because of him. I
Speaker 1: think you know your point is right. The people do
Speaker 1: forget how dominant he was. And it's what I love
Speaker 1: most about him is he wins in so many different ways.
Speaker 1: He can win with athleticism, he win with power, he
Speaker 1: could at my ball. Mentality that he offers is outstanding.
Speaker 1: He is going to be come in and be that
Speaker 1: alpha for the Bengals offense, going to give them a
Speaker 1: downfield threat, going to help them over the middle of
Speaker 1: the field. He has a chance to be a game changer.
Speaker 1: And I mean we aren't allowed to play lay any
Speaker 1: of the video or the audio from the NFL Draft
Speaker 1: and from the NFL Draft coverage, but I will say
Speaker 1: you can go watch it, and we're supposed to promote it.
Speaker 1: But my goodness, his suit right now is just straight fire.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's got like photos from his career and
Speaker 1: his family. Yeah, it's believe it's Oh he just the
Speaker 1: outside he did gritty. How about that? Does that make
Speaker 1: you happy? Oh? I'm I mean, are you exstatic? Right now?
Speaker 1: I would have drafted I probably would have drafted Pine
Speaker 1: sul But like the best team in LSU history, like
Speaker 1: memories that I'll have with me forever, and now I
Speaker 1: get to watch Joe throw it to him again, like
Speaker 1: it's and by the way, we got to see him
Speaker 1: do it first. I get that. But like the Bengals
Speaker 1: are in content, like that's one of the best trios
Speaker 1: of receivers in the league. Maybe not not quite as
Speaker 1: good as what's here in Dallas, and Tampa's got something
Speaker 1: to say about that as well. But Tee Higgins, Tyler
Speaker 1: Boyd and Jamar Chase, that's filthy. That's really filthy. You know,
Speaker 1: you talk about players and and forgive me if this
Speaker 1: was brought up a second ago, but a J. Terrell
Speaker 1: and t On Digs two guys that he gave a
Speaker 1: lot of problems to in twenty you know, I mean
Speaker 1: he torched both of those guys a first and second
Speaker 1: round picking and just everything he's He's prototypical wide receiver,
Speaker 1: one man that's what you want, um winning in multiple ways.
Speaker 1: The attitude that he plays with, you know, you see
Speaker 1: that catching the ball with his hands, you know, plucking
Speaker 1: it out of the air and there's so much to
Speaker 1: like about the way he plays. Another significant factor of
Speaker 1: this specific pick. But I mean, this is the first
Speaker 1: straight up to opt out that we've had in the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty draft. Taking right, I mean t Trey Lance
Speaker 1: didn't play a whole lot of games, but he wasn't
Speaker 1: an opt out for specific I mean, you're right, he
Speaker 1: did play a game, yeah, but he wasn't He didn't
Speaker 1: opt out of the season he played in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase is the first straight opt out who said
Speaker 1: I'm not playing football in the COVID nineteen era. This
Speaker 1: is the first one off the board. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: a couple of them that are set to come up
Speaker 1: soon or Sean's later pin a. Jac Horne is in
Speaker 1: that conversation Michael Parsons. Damn near every photo and video
Speaker 1: clip of Jamar Chase that they use is from that
Speaker 1: Clemson game because that's how dominant he He did whatever
Speaker 1: he wanted to. It's pretty impressive. Now it feels like
Speaker 1: Miami on the clock. They pick at six. They also
Speaker 1: pick at eighteen, but it feels like pass catcher on
Speaker 1: their mind again, you know, as they traded back into
Speaker 1: six after after leaving three to go to twelve. Then
Speaker 1: they traded at the Eagles to get up to six
Speaker 1: to come back in and get a pass catcher most
Speaker 1: likely UM. At least that's what what well we've been
Speaker 1: mocking at least when we've been talking. Why not just
Speaker 1: keep keep the reunion train going, you know, send Honestly,
Speaker 1: either one of them, DeVante Smith or Jalen Waddle in
Speaker 1: Miami would be a ton of fun. Who do you
Speaker 1: think they would like out of the two? Dane Wattle, Wattle, Yeah, Waddles.
Speaker 1: Most teams that I talked to have Waddle as a
Speaker 1: second receiver in this draft. UM. Some like Smith, but
Speaker 1: Waddle just he's different with the athleticism to speed, um
Speaker 1: the way he progressed this year, like he's as a
Speaker 1: route runner, as a guy that'll play above the rim
Speaker 1: a little bit. Uh. Jayleen Waddle to me is a
Speaker 1: difference maker. And there's nothing against Vante Smith, but I
Speaker 1: think Jaylen Waddle is just a little bit different. So
Speaker 1: I do think Waddle is the pick here. And now
Speaker 1: Penny Swell being there is interesting with you know, a
Speaker 1: need at right tackle. Could they go in that direction?
Speaker 1: It's possible, can't rub Penny Sewell here, but I think
Speaker 1: jayld Waddle, that's that's they've been looking for that pass catcher.
Speaker 1: They've been looking for that weapon, and you know, reunite
Speaker 1: him with Tuah. I mean, that's really don't want to
Speaker 1: help too as much as they possibly can. Reuniting to
Speaker 1: a with a target like that, a weapon like that,
Speaker 1: it makes too much sense. Have you heard anything about
Speaker 1: Waddle's injury affecting his stock, because that's which it was
Speaker 1: a good question. It was a pretty brutal injury I
Speaker 1: saw working out, but we really haven't been talking about it.
Speaker 1: I think that's a testament to how dynamic he is.
Speaker 1: But I am I'm curious because yeah, I mean, sixth
Speaker 1: overall for a guy who lost half of his season
Speaker 1: to a pretty gnarly injury. This is a fun little stat.
Speaker 1: It really has no legitimate hold on what Miami's going
Speaker 1: to do here, but between both wide receivers, I'll throw
Speaker 1: Jalen Waddle and DeVante Smith into that category with Alabama,
Speaker 1: along with pitt A Seul as probably the other top
Speaker 1: player on the board. Miami six of their last nine
Speaker 1: first round picks in the draft, and all of their
Speaker 1: picks in the top ten have come from the SEC
Speaker 1: best conference in America. So no offense. I mean you
Speaker 1: should probably say that about behalf of the organizations in
Speaker 1: the NFL. But pass catchers, more pass catchers going. It's
Speaker 1: leaving your offensive linemen and cornerbacks. This is perfect everything.
Speaker 1: I mean obvious. You know, if you were still holding
Speaker 1: onto the Kyle Pitts pipe dream, I'm sorry, but really
Speaker 1: this is about as close to ideal as you could
Speaker 1: ask for for the Cowboys so far. Which but we knew,
Speaker 1: we kind of we saw all this coming. Maybe there
Speaker 1: would have been maybe, you know, maybe since draft tool,
Speaker 1: but it's always been seventh through nine that should scare you,
Speaker 1: and we'll take a look in. I had the war
Speaker 1: room coming up after the pick is announced, because I mean,
Speaker 1: right around seven is where you start getting worried about
Speaker 1: your players that are on your board. That's I'm going
Speaker 1: off the board. I was just thinking about this to myself,
Speaker 1: like I'm having fun right now when when Miami's when
Speaker 1: Miami's done making the pick, I'm not having fun anything.
Speaker 1: It's starting now. I'm like, I think it's real. Who
Speaker 1: are the picks? What's going on? How many of my
Speaker 1: guys are left because we're gonna we're gonna lose somebody,
Speaker 1: especialbody's gonna go, especially with Detroit at seven coming up,
Speaker 1: and they well, here's the here's the commissioner. In the
Speaker 1: voice of Kyle, I was gonna say, like, we keep
Speaker 1: we keep thinking we have to cut away because that
Speaker 1: it's just me talking about it. So with the six
Speaker 1: pick in the twenty twenty one NFL Draft, the Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins select wide receiver Jalen Waddle out of Alabama. So
Speaker 1: they did go pass catcher, and they did indeed go
Speaker 1: with Waddle over the Heisman Trophy winner and Davante Smith,
Speaker 1: who is still on the board. They love Waddle, and
Speaker 1: I kind of wish that Pennisul might have won five
Speaker 1: just to see which way the Dolphins would have winn
Speaker 1: At six. They might have taken Waddle over Chase. That's
Speaker 1: how much they loved Waddle. So it's this is and
Speaker 1: again the connection between TWA and Waddle. You cannot ignore
Speaker 1: that as part of the reasoning. Year. Uh, He's just
Speaker 1: a big play weapon that I think is going to,
Speaker 1: you know, really change how they play offense in Miami
Speaker 1: average nineteen yards per catch in college twelve yards after
Speaker 1: the catch. In twenty nineteen, you just get the ball
Speaker 1: in his hands and let him go. See if they
Speaker 1: remember the old thing we used to talk about around here. Hey,
Speaker 1: are they gonna let Dez Bryant return bunts? Remember that
Speaker 1: whole conversation from a decade ago, same same thing might
Speaker 1: be a yeah, steam might be happening there as well,
Speaker 1: because he's an excellent punt returner as well. Dangerous at
Speaker 1: all times. Man. That's uh. If if um Bounty is
Speaker 1: the best toilet paper and that's Tyreek Hill, then he's brawny,
Speaker 1: you know. Well, I mean this is this is this
Speaker 1: is a stud. This is a stud, and it's a
Speaker 1: it's fun, It's really fun. And it also tells you
Speaker 1: they're all in on tua you know again. Justin fields
Speaker 1: still out there, you know, And that's another thing. To
Speaker 1: two offensive lineman, two cornerbacks and then two quarterbacks. That's
Speaker 1: we need for you. We just need somebody to want
Speaker 1: a quarterback. And that's the biggest thing right now is
Speaker 1: because fields and mac jones are still available. We all
Speaker 1: want to do what you'll want to take corner? You
Speaker 1: want to move back? What do you want to do?
Speaker 1: I'm thinking specifically with the Cowboys. But who's trading up
Speaker 1: right now? Who's on the phone, duh Bears the Patriots?
Speaker 1: What about what about you know is Teddy Teddy Bridgewater?
Speaker 1: If if the Broncos, if the Broncos like justin Fields
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater, shouldn't stop them from doing anything. No, obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see what happens with this Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: circus show looking at dead money and stuff too, and
Speaker 1: that Aaron Rodgers thing. That trade would not need to
Speaker 1: happen till after June second, because the Packers would take
Speaker 1: a forty million dollar cap hit if it happened before
Speaker 1: June two. If it happens after June two, they they
Speaker 1: can divide it over two years. But we're talking about
Speaker 1: a team who has two million dollars of cap space.
Speaker 1: So this this Rogers trade, I don't think it is happening,
Speaker 1: okay tonight, which put it that way, and if you're
Speaker 1: just looking at the money on it, it just doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense for that to happen. It doesn't sound smart
Speaker 1: to put off drafting a franchise quarterback because of a
Speaker 1: trade that maybe has a fifteen percent chance of happening.
Speaker 1: They have it, Jordan Love, what do you think here
Speaker 1: for Detroit? Dane there's this has been a polkind of
Speaker 1: what I'm thinking too. I mean, you know they have
Speaker 1: Taylor Decker left tackle, Sewell steps in as your right tackle.
Speaker 1: I think it makes a lot of sense, both from
Speaker 1: a talent and value perspective. But I'm just watching that
Speaker 1: little logo in the corner scene if it's it's gonna
Speaker 1: switch right, yeah, yeah, Why would pit a Sewel be
Speaker 1: such a easy fit here for Detroit? I mean because
Speaker 1: they're just traded for Jared Goff, you could add a
Speaker 1: you could add DeVante Smith here and going to run
Speaker 1: a wide receivers. They're a couple of years away. I
Speaker 1: don't think they're I think they know that this is
Speaker 1: a long term rebuild. So doing it with an offensive
Speaker 1: tackle who's twenty years old, I think to me that
Speaker 1: just fits the timeline of when the Lions think they're
Speaker 1: going to be back as contenders. I like that. Actually,
Speaker 1: the more I think about it, the more it makes sense.
Speaker 1: You can't go wrong, and you know it's a it's
Speaker 1: a new coach, a new front office, like, you can't
Speaker 1: go wrong starting in the trenches. That's what Dallas did
Speaker 1: with Jason Garrett. They drafted Tyrn Smith ninth. Overall, it's
Speaker 1: I mean, unless you're getting a quarterback, which you know,
Speaker 1: I'll see what Jared Goff can do. That's true. That's
Speaker 1: the things you know. I was a golf fan for
Speaker 1: a long time. Yeah, but that's another thing where I
Speaker 1: just think if you're at seven, I would probably say
Speaker 1: the same thing about the Panthers at eight with Sam Darnold.
Speaker 1: Why would it hurt you to take justin fields and
Speaker 1: just find out. I just here's here's my counter. Here's
Speaker 1: my counter. There's there's a quarterback you will love every year.
Speaker 1: Like nobody knew who Zack Wilson was last year, it's
Speaker 1: a point nobody knew who Joe Burrow was. You draft
Speaker 1: Pinney Sewell, you anchor that line, and you know, if
Speaker 1: Jared Goff sucks, you can do this again next year
Speaker 1: with whoever the hot shot is. I mean, you never
Speaker 1: go wrong drafting a quarterback. But I can see what
Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm saying. It's never a bad idea. I
Speaker 1: should say, right, yeah, you could go wrong if you
Speaker 1: don't have a quarterback, throw darts until you hit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's but they do technically have one right now,
Speaker 1: So I don't I don't hate this decision, right Dane
Speaker 1: Pinney Soul's the top player on your board? Did you
Speaker 1: have Lawrence Pitts, Wilson Chase then Seul? So, I mean
Speaker 1: he was even above Lance and Waddle, who are off
Speaker 1: the board. So does that add a little bit into
Speaker 1: maybe what the Lions are thinking in their war room
Speaker 1: at the moment of thinking about, hey, this is a
Speaker 1: this is this is going to be the pick and
Speaker 1: Pitney Soul Well, I mean, obviously, you know the Lions
Speaker 1: have their own board, and who knows where Sewell is
Speaker 1: on their own board. But I just think when you
Speaker 1: look at this team and it's a brand new regime.
Speaker 1: So we've got a first year head coach, we've got
Speaker 1: a first year general manager. We don't have a track
Speaker 1: record to go on. They're rebuilding this thing from the
Speaker 1: ground up. Basically, they've got a lot of holes and
Speaker 1: so when you're picking top seven, you need to come
Speaker 1: away with an impact player. And so Davante Smith, sure,
Speaker 1: I could understand that argument. Justin Fields, I could und
Speaker 1: stand in argument, But I think Penna Sul for the
Speaker 1: timeline they're working with the talent the value here and
Speaker 1: I got I just keep coming back to he's twenty
Speaker 1: years old, and you know when you think about what
Speaker 1: he's gonna give, you immediately mean he's he's going to
Speaker 1: sign a second contract when he's twenty four years old,
Speaker 1: pretty much. I mean here, they're just a very bright
Speaker 1: future for him. And so you know, Taylor Decker's he's
Speaker 1: he's still pretty young. They could really have an interesting
Speaker 1: pair of offensive tackle bookends for whoever is that quarterback.
Speaker 1: So we're taking a look inside the draft room of
Speaker 1: the Lions, and I mean literal jumping up and down.
Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about it. There was no excitement
Speaker 1: from Trey Lance out of the San Francisco forty nine
Speaker 1: ers war room, but it was quite the opposite for
Speaker 1: Detroit whoever they selected here in the next couple of moments,
Speaker 1: I mean, they are just absolutely over the moon about
Speaker 1: selecting this guy with the seventh overall pick. By the way,
Speaker 1: we were going to take a look into our our
Speaker 1: war room. I guess we could go ahead and take
Speaker 1: a look in there. I was told that maybe everybody
Speaker 1: walked doubt. So there's not a whole lot going on
Speaker 1: in that war room, so we're actually gonna wait to
Speaker 1: go in there. There's not a whole lot going on.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of empty chairs, at least at this
Speaker 1: very moment. I don't know if that necessarily means anything
Speaker 1: that's interesting. It makes that makes me think. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: you know the time of this works. There's the official
Speaker 1: pick from the Commissioner Intelligence, pen a school from Oregon.
Speaker 1: But knowing the timeline of these picks, how when it
Speaker 1: happens on TV, it's already happened, you know, the league,
Speaker 1: the teams themselves are this five minutes ahead of the media.
Speaker 1: Feels very trade ish interesting. I mean, if if nothing's
Speaker 1: going on in there, I'm just saying that it feels
Speaker 1: and maybe it's not. Maybe they're just figuring stuff something out.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it feels like that there would
Speaker 1: be people in the room right now. It doesn't. This
Speaker 1: is about the time you We're getting close to the
Speaker 1: time where you'd be making the call. Yeah, Dallas is
Speaker 1: getting close to actually being on the clock. As weird
Speaker 1: as that sounds, it just just in case nobody heard it.
Speaker 1: We said it a moment ago. But Pena sol offensive
Speaker 1: tackle out of Oregon is the pick and he is
Speaker 1: going number seven overall all to the Detroit Lions. But
Speaker 1: I mean we talked about how good of a player
Speaker 1: he is. That's one of those tackles off the board
Speaker 1: for Dallas. And even though he wasn't necessarily v tackle
Speaker 1: that Dallas thought they would have on the board at ten,
Speaker 1: he's one of the players that if they were to
Speaker 1: fall to ten, you would act to consider him. So,
Speaker 1: now that there's one off the board, Rashaan Slater's next
Speaker 1: up in that category. You still have both cornerbacks. You
Speaker 1: have the Carolina Panthers on the clock here, followed by
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. Then you're here with the Cowboys. Is
Speaker 1: this where we see our first trade? Maybe with both
Speaker 1: quarterbacks also being there. Maybe. I mean, I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: spare me, spare me your disdain if you don't like
Speaker 1: any of these guys, but like guys that we know,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys like, they're guaranteed to have somebody, right. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think right now you're seeing the dream of Michael Parson,
Speaker 1: And by dream, I mean for a lot of people
Speaker 1: who would be a nightmare, which is sad to say,
Speaker 1: because Michael Parson is a really good player. But you're
Speaker 1: saying you're seeing that possibility slip away, slip away, Yeah,
Speaker 1: which is good for most people. But regardless, I mean
Speaker 1: regardless of what happens in these next two picks. Like,
Speaker 1: we know they like Slater obviously, we know they love
Speaker 1: the corners, and we know they like Parsons. Mathematically, one
Speaker 1: of them has to be there unless they're trading out
Speaker 1: of the pick, which we wouldn't see that for a while. Anyway,
Speaker 1: let's let's try to narrow down the Panthers re question.
Speaker 1: So I think this is the toughest. I mean, I
Speaker 1: you know, three we knew as a quarterback. At least
Speaker 1: we didn't know which one. I don't think we've been
Speaker 1: surprised yet, to be honest with you. Um, Like, so
Speaker 1: far my mock draft, the only one I got wrong
Speaker 1: is Mac I had of my three, Um, but I
Speaker 1: got in every single pick right so far? Akin, are
Speaker 1: we surprised that? I'm just saying, like, I don't think
Speaker 1: we've been surprised yet. Like, I don't think that, But
Speaker 1: I think Carolina is where we could be surprised. It
Speaker 1: could be a trade back, this could be a corner,
Speaker 1: This could be Slater, Who did you have? Could be
Speaker 1: just that fields JC Horn? I had eight. I have
Speaker 1: developed a healthy hatred for the Panthers over the last
Speaker 1: like month and a half because just because well they
Speaker 1: just they need everything that Dallas needs. And they're sitting
Speaker 1: there and they're like trying to like they're shopping the pick,
Speaker 1: but they're not shopping the pick. They love Horn, they
Speaker 1: love Certan, they love Tackles, Just like, are you gonna
Speaker 1: leave anything for me to think about this? If Horn
Speaker 1: goes at eight, Denver at nine could take Certan And
Speaker 1: we've been talking about the Aaron Rodgers roomor but I
Speaker 1: think that's I think that's good to go to sleep
Speaker 1: for the night. What if the Broncos took Certan? And
Speaker 1: then that would explain? And I don't know. I haven't
Speaker 1: looked inside the Cowboy's war room. I don't have that.
Speaker 1: But if there's nothing going on in there that tells me,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just putting playing detective here. I truly
Speaker 1: don't know. We're trading back here? Is that what's happening?
Speaker 1: Are you sitting there? You're taking Slater? Are you taking
Speaker 1: trading back? Wouldn't they be in the room? I guess,
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't they be in the room if they
Speaker 1: were calling a player. Theoretically, yeah, yet it's so hard
Speaker 1: to guess. I mean, the just entertaining Katie, I'm having fun.
Speaker 1: If they were watching the draft show, if they traded
Speaker 1: back and the trade has already agreed, they're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we won't be on the clock for another forty five minutes.
Speaker 1: Let's go grab some dinner or go to the bathroom
Speaker 1: or whatever. We're okay, now, I see what you're saying.
Speaker 1: But you think that they I don't think they'd agree
Speaker 1: to a trade this early, do you know? Although I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I guess. The thing that makes and
Speaker 1: it's weird to talk about is like they're ahead of us, Like, sure,
Speaker 1: they're eight to ten minutes, So it's weird. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna assume that nothing crazy is happening yet, Okay,
Speaker 1: I should calm down. I should calm down, and I will.
Speaker 1: We I think we would say the four guys that
Speaker 1: we think they like the most are still there. So
Speaker 1: I woke up with the hunch that the two cornerbacks
Speaker 1: they want and we're not going to be there. Yeah, people,
Speaker 1: there's been smoke about that for two days at this point,
Speaker 1: and now I'm just like, like, I'm angry at Carolina
Speaker 1: because I feel like they could be responsible for this
Speaker 1: happening in the first place. So the pick is in
Speaker 1: for Carolina, just to run down the board that we
Speaker 1: have so far. Trevor Lawrence was the first overall pick.
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson was second to the Jets. The four nine
Speaker 1: Ers in their Crossroads went with Trey Lance instead of
Speaker 1: Mac Jones, so both Justin Fields and Mac Jones are
Speaker 1: on the table. In terms of the quarterback position, Kyle
Speaker 1: Pitts went fourth overall, the highest a tight end has
Speaker 1: ever gone in the NFL Draft. The Bengals went with
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase at five, Jalen Waddle at six, back to
Speaker 1: back wide receivers, and then Pinney Sewell went to the
Speaker 1: Lions at seven. So the Panthers are on the clock here.
Speaker 1: The pick is in. I mean, so no trade here,
Speaker 1: Dane Well, Okay, So I mean Slater Fields or Horn
Speaker 1: Oh goodness, are we gonna lose a guy here today?
Speaker 1: If they're gonna whatever they do is going to listen.
Speaker 1: I mean, right now, it's gonna be Slater or a corner.
Speaker 1: I woke up and read Dane's mock draft this morning,
Speaker 1: and he had jac Horne at eight, and that's who
Speaker 1: I mocked on mine. I had a lot of Panther
Speaker 1: fans are gamecock fans s could they go with the
Speaker 1: local guy and Jac Horn? I mean, that's not why
Speaker 1: they're drafting him, but it's a nice wool he's from
Speaker 1: from down the road. I mean, Carolina is in North Carolina,
Speaker 1: not South Carolina, I guess, but there Carolina. Actually, fun
Speaker 1: fun tidbit, the shape of the Panther is meant to
Speaker 1: look like North and South Carolina combined. I tweeted this
Speaker 1: out a couple of days ago that we don't encourage betting,
Speaker 1: but JC Horne the first defender off the board at
Speaker 1: plus like whatever was eight hundred or something. That was
Speaker 1: pretty appealing. Oh man, very very appealing. By the way,
Speaker 1: it's been a long time since a player has fallen
Speaker 1: past eight in the NFL draft. The last player to
Speaker 1: fall past eight in the NFL draft was nineteen fifty seven,
Speaker 1: when the Chicago car excuse me, yes, the defensive player
Speaker 1: took Jerry Tubbs at number ten, who was, by the way,
Speaker 1: one of the first linebackers for the Dallas Cowboys. Oh,
Speaker 1: I just don't even want to see this name. Roger
Speaker 1: Goodell at the board, want to see it. Eighth overall
Speaker 1: pick in the NFL Draft, the Carolina Panthers select cornerback
Speaker 1: JC Horn out of South Carolina. One of the corners
Speaker 1: are off the board, and one of the thoughts was
Speaker 1: he could potentially go this early and not be there
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, and that is exactly what happened. That's
Speaker 1: one of those picks where you feel like you don't
Speaker 1: have to say much about the guy because we've been
Speaker 1: talking about him for two months. Yep. Like specifically good pick, though,
Speaker 1: I mean, especially with what they're trying to do with
Speaker 1: Matt Rule, who's a big fan of quote unquote building
Speaker 1: a program, you know, almost kind of treating the NFL
Speaker 1: team like a college and everything you hear about Horn
Speaker 1: is true leader and all that stuff that we've been
Speaker 1: talking about for a long time now. That game against
Speaker 1: Auburn was some really really good take And I'm not
Speaker 1: a huge on Seth Williams, but he wore Seth Williams
Speaker 1: out that game. There's a lot of fun to watch.
Speaker 1: By the way, three straight opt outs going or excuse
Speaker 1: me if three of the last four picks have been
Speaker 1: opt outs Chase seul Horn, so at least when we
Speaker 1: talked about weighing opt outs of the twenty twenty season
Speaker 1: in how these front officers are looking at it early on,
Speaker 1: that looks like it doesn't have a whole lot of
Speaker 1: wait added to it. But man, this one hurts a
Speaker 1: little bit to see him off the board. Dane. He's
Speaker 1: a good player, and I think this is this is
Speaker 1: a coach's pick, and we know Matt Rule probably has
Speaker 1: the final voice there in Carolina. You know a guy
Speaker 1: that just to compete skills or off the charts. He
Speaker 1: tested like a big time athlete, and we know he
Speaker 1: has the bloodlines. So you know a lot of signs
Speaker 1: are pointing here. That's why I went there in my
Speaker 1: mock drafted. It just made a lot of sense. I think,
Speaker 1: which everything you just said about him in Carolina is
Speaker 1: why in a perfect world, I think he would have
Speaker 1: been the pick here. And I think it would have
Speaker 1: been the coaches driving that, like from everything I've heard. Again,
Speaker 1: you know Sean Lee just retired, Tyron Crawford just retired.
Speaker 1: You know, there's there's a little bit of a leadership
Speaker 1: vacuum on this defense. And I think that's why J. C.
Speaker 1: Horne was so appealing to them. And you know that's
Speaker 1: not a knock on Patrick's or Tan. I think you
Speaker 1: know now that if they didn't trade out of this pick,
Speaker 1: which I guess we're going to find out soon, I
Speaker 1: would imagine, like I think they would feel just fine
Speaker 1: drafting Certan, but Horn just had a little bit of
Speaker 1: an edge. Horn the bearcage. Now, boys, this is this
Speaker 1: is where things get get all heated is a movie
Speaker 1: from the nineteen ninety six hit movie Twister. Could Justin
Speaker 1: Fields be here? Wow? If I'm why not? I love
Speaker 1: Denver making that pick and you can figure everything out,
Speaker 1: you know, And then if you're the Cowboys, you sit
Speaker 1: and take Certan at Tina Tan at nine though. That's
Speaker 1: that's where I think it's and depending on what you want.
Speaker 1: I'm so confident in getting a good cornerback in the
Speaker 1: second round. See that's how I feel about linebacker. Like
Speaker 1: tomorrow night, if you like, we could go after chap
Speaker 1: Real Cox, we could go after Baron Browning. Um, who
Speaker 1: I know, I'm forgetting somebody forgive me. But like there's
Speaker 1: there's a lot Bolton perhaps, who knows how long Zaven
Speaker 1: Collins is going to be on the board, like No One, yeah,
Speaker 1: and jam and Davis. I think we'll go before forty four.
Speaker 1: But I mean it's not going to be insane. I
Speaker 1: mean we've talked about this. Once you get past pick
Speaker 1: thirteen or fourteen, it opens up to a spot to
Speaker 1: where it's not crazy when wild things start happening, of course,
Speaker 1: and I think we said at the top of the
Speaker 1: show before the draft started that we expect it's going
Speaker 1: to be wild, because you know, these teams have such
Speaker 1: different opinions. But I and this is this is flawed
Speaker 1: logic to a degree. But I just think we talked
Speaker 1: about this on our Building the Board series, like I
Speaker 1: got a good look at what a second round starting
Speaker 1: cornerback looks like in Trayvon Diggs last year, and he
Speaker 1: had a promising rookie season. But I think there's some
Speaker 1: drop off. So there is a little bit of rumor
Speaker 1: going around right now. From what I've seen, Philly is
Speaker 1: apparently trying to take this pick from Denver and jump
Speaker 1: from twelve. There's been probably for Patrick, so it could
Speaker 1: Denver trade out of this pick. That's that's one thing.
Speaker 1: Could they take Michael Parsons with this pick? Could they
Speaker 1: go with Justin Fields? If they go down to twelve,
Speaker 1: they have options if if Denver really wants to make
Speaker 1: a trade for Aaron Rodgers at any time in the future,
Speaker 1: like it's been rumored, they might do well to get out,
Speaker 1: move back and get as many picks as they can.
Speaker 1: Take a lot of things that make a lot of
Speaker 1: sense here. If you can trade for Rogers, that's fine.
Speaker 1: And I was going to say, like, why on earth
Speaker 1: would Teddy Bridgewater and Drew Locke stop you from just
Speaker 1: drafting Justin Fields? And let's you know, if you can
Speaker 1: get the best quarterback if they like Fields, Yeah, what's
Speaker 1: not what's not like about Justin Fields? Plane picked number
Speaker 1: nine and I'm still there. Can you make it make
Speaker 1: sense to me? I mean, he's a little methodical with
Speaker 1: his process and that's and that's why he was my
Speaker 1: fourth quarterback. But what I still draft from top ten? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was my eighth overall player. So at this point, yeah,
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater Drew locked and not stopping me from from
Speaker 1: going there. That's it goes like I've been saying this
Speaker 1: for weeks about certain I feel like you just have
Speaker 1: pick fatigue and you're looking for reasons to not like
Speaker 1: a guy. That's how I feel about justin fields. It's
Speaker 1: kind of how we thought about Patrick's utan. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's he was. I went back and looked
Speaker 1: at my board and from August and I had Lawrence one,
Speaker 1: Trey Lance six, and Field seven. So I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't think he was the clear cut number two guy
Speaker 1: all along. But I do understand what you're saying, though,
Speaker 1: because it's we seem to do that with quarterbacks and
Speaker 1: then the guys at the top. I like Trey Lance
Speaker 1: a lot, and I especially if he doesn't have to
Speaker 1: play right away. That's a wonderful situation. But it's still
Speaker 1: wild to me that everybody's like, yeah, third, overall, that
Speaker 1: makes sense. Guy who's only played five games in his
Speaker 1: life in the FCS. And then the dude who came
Speaker 1: in and just carried Ohio State on his back and
Speaker 1: like forced them to have a season and got killed
Speaker 1: in the semifinals and got up and won the game,
Speaker 1: and they're just like, ah, I don't know, not sold
Speaker 1: on you about hanging out in the war room happening now?
Speaker 1: So it is proof that I did get overly excited
Speaker 1: about ten minutes ago, and I'd like to apologize. Hey,
Speaker 1: we're so this is live radio room hanging out. This
Speaker 1: is good. Also terrifying to me because if Denver either
Speaker 1: takes Ertan or they trade out of that pick and
Speaker 1: Philly wants to go up and get Patrick Curtan. I mean,
Speaker 1: right now, you look at the Cowboys situation, you're thinking
Speaker 1: Cirtan or Parsons, right, or Slater you could throw us
Speaker 1: later in there. But we've seen nothing over the last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks that even indicates that they're interested in
Speaker 1: offensive tackle. So it's certain or Parsons. I think for
Speaker 1: the most part here there's a pretty good chance it's
Speaker 1: one of those two guys at ten. It looks like
Speaker 1: Denver's pick is in. It could switch. They were trying
Speaker 1: to get the hell out of there. It looks like it.
Speaker 1: It looks like they were trying to get there. On
Speaker 1: the phone. They went all the way down to thirty seconds. Goodness,
Speaker 1: look in the war room, all right, Well, hey, how
Speaker 1: you guys feeling everyone feeling? I feel better now that
Speaker 1: the Eagles logos. I feel better knowing that Philly didn't
Speaker 1: just steal the guy that you probably want. And even
Speaker 1: if Denver does, rather Denver do it than Philly, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's just pettiness. But what that is pettiness? You think
Speaker 1: about how petty it would be for Philadelphia to even
Speaker 1: trade back up and make that they did it. They
Speaker 1: did it two years ago for Dallas gotter or three
Speaker 1: however many years ago that was they they're capable. But
Speaker 1: this is in the top ten. This is a little
Speaker 1: bit at extra I'm relieved, Let's put it that way,
Speaker 1: unless it switches here in about thirty seconds and then
Speaker 1: we'll have some other issue. Hold on to your butts, boys.
Speaker 1: Oh no, so oh no, no, no trades yet, no
Speaker 1: trade yet, Oh goodness, no trades at all. But even there,
Speaker 1: I mean even here, Denver could takes her tan. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: we've been talking about it. Well, we definitely a candidate
Speaker 1: to take to t takes her tan. So this is
Speaker 1: this is Does this just feel like this is taking
Speaker 1: forty five minutes for this final pick? This Denver in
Speaker 1: Carolina feels like it took longer than all of the
Speaker 1: picks before A plan and a Plan C and a
Speaker 1: Plan D two. I have a bad gut feeling, I
Speaker 1: really do. I don't think they're gonna take him. I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna trade for Ian Rodgers. And June Stephen
Speaker 1: is on the phone right now by the way in
Speaker 1: the war room. You can see that in the top
Speaker 1: left hand corner. And that didn't last long. He hung
Speaker 1: up pretty quick. So the pick from Roger Goodell ninth
Speaker 1: overall pick to pick before the Cowboys, that ver Broncos
Speaker 1: select Patrick's Patrick's r Tan cornerback out of Alabama. Wow.
Speaker 1: So just when we thought things were working out through
Speaker 1: the first seven picks for the Cowboys, eight and nine
Speaker 1: go worst case scenario for a team searching after a corner.
Speaker 1: What do you do now it's Rashaan Slater, it's Patrick,
Speaker 1: or excuse me, it's Michael Parsons, or it's trade out
Speaker 1: of that pick and maybe go back to fifteen. The
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are still there. What a difference a year makes,
Speaker 1: Like you know, one year after everything breaks your way
Speaker 1: that this happens too, you can, I mean wiped out
Speaker 1: is not fair. This picks a little surprising when you
Speaker 1: consider what the Broncos did in the offseason with Kyle
Speaker 1: Fuller Um. You know, just it looked like they kind
Speaker 1: of were you know, they signed Ronald Darby, seemed like
Speaker 1: they were kind of set at corner. So interesting that
Speaker 1: they went their ten here best player on their board.
Speaker 1: Maybe at the time, maybe they did something like that.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's probably what it was. Having badass corners
Speaker 1: helped them win a Super Bowl as well. Now we've
Speaker 1: talked about it, we would be hypocrites. We said, you're
Speaker 1: at ten, you're going to get a good player in
Speaker 1: this draft, all right. So but to me, there's a
Speaker 1: clear delineation between the good players right here and then
Speaker 1: who's just a little further back. And to me, Slater
Speaker 1: is by far the top player on my board, and
Speaker 1: it's not close unless you want them up in justin fields,
Speaker 1: that's Rashawn Slater. And if it's not Rashawn Slater, me
Speaker 1: as GM Kevin and getting the heck out of there
Speaker 1: if I can. And it looks like that's something that
Speaker 1: could be a possibility. I've heard that Philly's a potent
Speaker 1: chill at twelve Dallas trading with Philly. That's what it
Speaker 1: looks like. There's a potential try to get ahead of
Speaker 1: the Giants for Davonte Smith. Maybe I mean with hey,
Speaker 1: they're going into the division anyways, the next three picks
Speaker 1: are in the nfcast. I mean they could trade to
Speaker 1: twenty if they wanted to. Well, I mean the thing
Speaker 1: is is you don't trade, not if they wanted to.
Speaker 1: You gotta have a willing get pinner. Well, you don't
Speaker 1: trade with others in your division because you're helping the theoretically,
Speaker 1: but if you think that Devonte Smith's going to eleven
Speaker 1: to the Giants anyways, yeah that's true. It doesn't really matter.
Speaker 1: And the other thing to have some tan to cover
Speaker 1: Devonte Smith, Yeah, it would be Yeah, that's a that's
Speaker 1: a dream. We can't look in the review mirror. You're
Speaker 1: more able to look ahead. Dallas. Dallas traded with Philly
Speaker 1: just last year for Tyler Battish. But big difference between
Speaker 1: day three and pick ten. The Cowboys are officially on
Speaker 1: the clock, though of course presented by Miller Lite. And
Speaker 1: we will be toasting this pick if the Cowboys make
Speaker 1: the pick, for we've got cold beers somewhere. I gotta
Speaker 1: go get them actually in a minute, so I may
Speaker 1: have too that of this chair here in a second.
Speaker 1: But I mean, Dane, what would you do here Slaters
Speaker 1: there later, I think I would do Slater as well.
Speaker 1: Parsons is there though, And of course, Dave, we've already
Speaker 1: talked about how much they think that they enjoy Parsons there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you if you made me guess right now, and
Speaker 1: we'll find out very quickly. But if they make this pick,
Speaker 1: I think they would pick Parsons. I would probably pick Slater.
Speaker 1: But again that and I know less about what they
Speaker 1: think than I ever have because of all this COVID stuff,
Speaker 1: Like I'm just being honest with you. Yeah. Absolutely, you know,
Speaker 1: in a normal year it's much easier to fact find
Speaker 1: and so I'm not completely flying in the dark, but
Speaker 1: you're going on a lot less information than usual. And
Speaker 1: I I put it this way, I think I think
Speaker 1: they have a higher grade on Parsons, but I wonder
Speaker 1: if that's enough to win out. Would their thing on
Speaker 1: Slaters They would think Slaters a guard and they think
Speaker 1: for the time, which I have No. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: you play left guard and you figure it out, right,
Speaker 1: I mean no, I'm TV exactly like this is not
Speaker 1: a problem for me. And now we got like I'm
Speaker 1: just are so good Dallas athletic doctor says Dallas is
Speaker 1: likely to trade out of ten. By the way, I
Speaker 1: think they just did well, it looks like they did.
Speaker 1: Haven't done it since twenty thirteen, so at least from
Speaker 1: what I'm looking at. So are they are? They just hope?
Speaker 1: So okay, they're just hoping like somebody's gonna make this
Speaker 1: decision for them, because honestly, if they're only trading back,
Speaker 1: that's what it looks like. If they're only trading back
Speaker 1: to twelve, they're the Eagles are trading up with the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: There we go, yep, and they got pick eighty four.
Speaker 1: It looks like this is DeVante Smith right boom. Obviously
Speaker 1: you make this trade to get them for the Giants
Speaker 1: on the trade chart that's you know, different for a
Speaker 1: lot of teams, but it's about one hundred point difference.
Speaker 1: If you were going to eighty four, that's about one
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy points. You won the trade by seventy points. Boys,
Speaker 1: we've got four picks tomorrow you can get and you're
Speaker 1: gonna get Slater or Jeff cavanat some traded down riding
Speaker 1: boys down rides silver lining here, that's a huge silver lining. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's that's incredible, honestly, and this sounds so dumb to say,
Speaker 1: but even if they draft Parsons, I'll be much happier
Speaker 1: knowing that I got an extra top one hundred. I
Speaker 1: think I'm there too, Like is that Dane? Is that dumb?
Speaker 1: Am I stupid? Oh not at all? Slater might still
Speaker 1: be there at their deer well, sure, and I think
Speaker 1: that's my gun. My gut is just that they would
Speaker 1: draft Parsons over Slater. So eighty four in the third round.
Speaker 1: So now you have three third round picks, you have
Speaker 1: seventy five, eighty four, ninety nine at with Philadelphia, they
Speaker 1: take that selection. That's a pick that Philadelphia didn't own
Speaker 1: in the first place. They got that from Indianapolis in
Speaker 1: the Carson Wentz trade, So it was a pick that
Speaker 1: was already dealt from Indianapolis to Philadelphia, and then they
Speaker 1: turned around and dealt it to the Cowboys to move
Speaker 1: up two slots, jump in front of the Giants and
Speaker 1: make the selection attend the Cowboys now pick at twelve.
Speaker 1: Am I just a completely sick individual, Like I don't
Speaker 1: care anymore, don't I don't. I don't care about the
Speaker 1: first round anymore. Like pick the player he'll be good,
Speaker 1: and we got four picks to work with tomorrow. You Kidney,
Speaker 1: you gotta see what they do at twelve though pick
Speaker 1: he already knows it's with Parsons, like his mind. I
Speaker 1: like Parsons so much more knowing that I have an
Speaker 1: extra pick to address my other problems. You did say
Speaker 1: it earlier, though, you said, man, going down to twenty
Speaker 1: would be a lot. You didn't go down to twenty.
Speaker 1: You went two picks down. You did pick that guy.
Speaker 1: I got an extra pick. Yeah, you gotta care about twelve.
Speaker 1: No I care. I'm just saying, like you said, you
Speaker 1: don't care. The pressure is off. The pressure is off
Speaker 1: for me. Like they did a smart thing. They added
Speaker 1: an extra player or an extra pick. I should say, um,
Speaker 1: and they'll get a good player. Like maybe you don't
Speaker 1: like Parsons as much as you like Slater, but maybe
Speaker 1: you'll love the guy they pick with number eighty four.
Speaker 1: There's a good chance you're going to get the same
Speaker 1: guy at twelve that you wanted to get. It to
Speaker 1: have a strange obsession with Day two picks. They are
Speaker 1: my favorite picks in the draft. Just doing trade Jart
Speaker 1: math here eighty four and ninety nine. If you piece
Speaker 1: them together, they could get you up to sixty five,
Speaker 1: So you could go sixty five seventy five. Are trying
Speaker 1: to get rid of my picks? Well, no, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying this allows you to do some things, and it
Speaker 1: gives you a little more, like a little action. If
Speaker 1: someone falls to you, you feel like you need to
Speaker 1: make a jump and go get someone to get a
Speaker 1: little more. Ammo. The Cowboys now have the most picks
Speaker 1: in the draft. Hey, now with eleven. The Eagles did
Speaker 1: have the most picks until this trade. In your face, Philly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. We do have a lot. The only blumber
Speaker 1: about this is that we don't get to drink our
Speaker 1: beer yet. No, I know, we gotta wait a couple
Speaker 1: We can wait fifty more minutes. It's fine, it's fair,
Speaker 1: I mean all right. So we're thinking this tends to
Speaker 1: be DeVante Smith, right, I mean, to get unless what
Speaker 1: quity you would have to Quity pay. They made this
Speaker 1: move to get ahead of the Giants, so it would
Speaker 1: be DeVante Smith right. Course later Quity pay. I had
Speaker 1: Quity pay going to the Giants at eleven in my mock,
Speaker 1: So I think that's the possibility. I think DeVante Smith though,
Speaker 1: that you gotta help Jalen Hurts. Tuah got reunited with
Speaker 1: Jalen Waddle, the Eagles reunite Jalen Hurts, but Davante Smith
Speaker 1: make it happen. I'm telling everyone I know there's a
Speaker 1: lot of people panicking. There are some really good second
Speaker 1: round corners. So don't let this, don't let this certain
Speaker 1: horn thing eat at you, because that's been the narrative
Speaker 1: far too long. Cirtan or horn, cirtan or horn. There
Speaker 1: are some really good cornerbacks. Mister Jave's not ready to
Speaker 1: hear it right now. What's no? I mean it would
Speaker 1: I have preferred to get a corner at ten, of course,
Speaker 1: but no, there are really good players. I mean, I've
Speaker 1: been talking about Tyson Campbell since January, which I mean,
Speaker 1: but the fun thing is, like, we'll see if he
Speaker 1: even lastsed tomorrow night. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: what to expect. I'm frazzled. I'm just really worried that
Speaker 1: one of the guys on the Dallas Star official draft
Speaker 1: magazine is not going to be picked. One of the
Speaker 1: guys off the cover, and I'm gonna be upset about it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess later in Parsons are still there,
Speaker 1: so we're still pretty good. We're in good shape, are
Speaker 1: you talking about at this point? I'd be surprised if
Speaker 1: one of them isn't the pick. I'm a little down, Dave.
Speaker 1: I don't want to jac Horn or Patrick stan Hey, buddy,
Speaker 1: you got Cede Lamb last year. You think you're gonna
Speaker 1: be you weren't here. You weren't here on Taco night.
Speaker 1: You want to That's true, You're not always I wasn't here.
Speaker 1: I was left to carry that banner. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: still paying for it to this day. I would I
Speaker 1: was like, yay and Brian and Dane are just like
Speaker 1: staring at the wall, depressing. You're not always like you.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna get exactly what you want every year.
Speaker 1: You're just not It's part of the fun of the draft. Well,
Speaker 1: and you know, you could argue you're almost rather miss
Speaker 1: out on a player, uh and still get like a
Speaker 1: plan B as opposed to a player you just you
Speaker 1: didn't want at all. Yeah, Taco And although which going
Speaker 1: back to what we talked about at the top, Parsons
Speaker 1: is that guy for a lot of people like a
Speaker 1: lot of people are just out on him. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not completely there, but I understand the disappointment. The big
Speaker 1: time run on pass catchers early has really helped the
Speaker 1: Cowboys out. I mean that is that is because there
Speaker 1: hasn't been a lot of years. You have to go
Speaker 1: back to John Ross and uh the Kevin White year. Wow,
Speaker 1: you know where things were going. Top ten pass catchers,
Speaker 1: like a bunch of them. I mean, four of the
Speaker 1: top pass catchers in the top ten has really build
Speaker 1: the Cowboys out so where they can still get a
Speaker 1: player that they like. And there could be another pass
Speaker 1: catcher coming up here with Philadelphia as well, if it
Speaker 1: is in fact DeVante Smith that they go for. Roger
Speaker 1: Goodell is back at the stand and the Eagles are
Speaker 1: on the clock, or excuse me to pick us in
Speaker 1: for the Eagles. With a tenth overall selection in the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one NFL Draft, the Philadelphia Eagles, after trading
Speaker 1: with the Dallas Cowboys, selects it is Smith, Heisman Trophy winner,
Speaker 1: all three of them reunited with their former quarterbacks. Wow,
Speaker 1: I didn't even think about How about that? That's that's fascinating. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's pretty impressive. Now, Okay, well who which which? I
Speaker 1: guess mac Jones only played one year in the in
Speaker 1: the Alabama system. I was gonna say, who else is
Speaker 1: he going to be playing with? But if he's picked
Speaker 1: tomorrow the tight end, Yeah, that's what do we think about?
Speaker 1: DeVante Smith is now the Cowboys are going to see
Speaker 1: him twice a year, and well we allow the Eagles
Speaker 1: to take that selection because we traded back. I thought
Speaker 1: he was an ideal fit for Jalen Hurts, to be honest,
Speaker 1: a guy who can go. You know what I like
Speaker 1: about Davonte Smith. I know other questions about his size,
Speaker 1: but the way that he does win over the middle
Speaker 1: of the field and has shown that he's not really
Speaker 1: scared to go over the field and does a good
Speaker 1: job of contorting his body to not take a lot
Speaker 1: of big hits on that you know, kind of wiry frame.
Speaker 1: Obviously we've seen him when downfield and things like that.
Speaker 1: But you know, to me, he's a good safety. Then
Speaker 1: I think he understands his own coverages, when to sit
Speaker 1: down and things like that, So I think I think
Speaker 1: it's a good I know I'm one of those guys
Speaker 1: who doesn't think Jalen Hurts is a franchise quarterback. But
Speaker 1: I think that's that's a really good helping piece for Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: Is there any any place or anybody here that thinks
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is a franchise quarterback in Philly. Anybody's sitting
Speaker 1: at this table. I don't think so. But I don't
Speaker 1: think so, which is but this helps you in that regard.
Speaker 1: But also if you find one down the road, listen,
Speaker 1: nobody wants to hear good words about the Eagles on
Speaker 1: this broadcast. I gotta trade. Oh no, no, Chicago is
Speaker 1: trading up to eleven? Wow Duns? Maybe Mac Jones or
Speaker 1: is there any possibility of Mac? Sure, you can't rule
Speaker 1: that out going back, which and that's obviously noteworthy, but
Speaker 1: Philly already made their hey to address quarterback for next year.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I think this is a great I
Speaker 1: don't care what they said about Joe Flacco competing for
Speaker 1: the job. This is an audition year for Jalen Hurts,
Speaker 1: and now they have an extra one in the arsenal
Speaker 1: next year to get the quarterback that they need if
Speaker 1: they feel like they need to, which is very smart
Speaker 1: in their I mean, yeah, I know you don't like
Speaker 1: to go out of your way to say nice things
Speaker 1: about the Eagles, but I mean they played this well,
Speaker 1: that was smart draft. And yeah, if they draft a
Speaker 1: quarterback next year, he'll have Davontae Smith waiting for He's
Speaker 1: got the same wingspan as last year six foot six
Speaker 1: wide receiver from Texas Colin Johnson, So I mean play
Speaker 1: is a little bigger than he is. But here's the thing.
Speaker 1: We talked about. Only two players over six feet tall
Speaker 1: who are under one hundred and eighty pounds over the
Speaker 1: last ten years. That is Paul Richardson and Snoop Menace. Uh.
Speaker 1: He blows those guys out of the water. Um. This
Speaker 1: trade is interesting though the Cowboys if it is for
Speaker 1: a quarterback like we would assume, which because eleven you
Speaker 1: still have that Parsons or Slater or is there some
Speaker 1: guy that we're not talking about or should we be
Speaker 1: a quitty pay Should we be talking Jalen Phillips, Should
Speaker 1: we be talking about a I think it's down the
Speaker 1: Slater in Parsons here, I really do. I like, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's just me. We could talk about any of those
Speaker 1: edge rushers, but I think it's one of those two,
Speaker 1: especially traded down thinking about it. He's like a big reach.
Speaker 1: But they love saving Colin. I don't know if that
Speaker 1: is number twelve, how do it either? But they and
Speaker 1: we've done this for months. Okay, let's just throwing things
Speaker 1: up there. You're sliding back a little. Let's get let's
Speaker 1: get silly while we still can reality slap us in
Speaker 1: the face. Would you rather at twelve twelve overall Parsons
Speaker 1: or Collins? I would take Parsons persons. Okay, so there's
Speaker 1: no no debate everything, Okay, answers Slater? Now, yeah, I
Speaker 1: was about Slater. We are all in agreement that we
Speaker 1: would draft Slater. I would do backflips down this hallway
Speaker 1: if they picked. I have heard nothing to suggest that
Speaker 1: the cowboys like I'm the same way. I've heard zero
Speaker 1: there as well. But that was at ten. What about
Speaker 1: a twelve? I just haven't heard his name at all.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard that they like talk to him. I
Speaker 1: haven't heard, you know, me and Katie are sitting here
Speaker 1: saying they love Collins. I haven't heard that from anybody
Speaker 1: about Slater. Well, no about I know that they've talked
Speaker 1: us later, I don't know if they've talked to Jay. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: let's have fun here. Why pick at twelve? No? Why stop?
Speaker 1: Why stop moving back now? Because one of your quarterback
Speaker 1: targets just traded. One of your quarterback targets goes and
Speaker 1: there's one more quarterback left? Does a new England at fifteen?
Speaker 1: Get Answick up another one on because we just named
Speaker 1: some guys, be like, I'll do it. Dave would just
Speaker 1: want every where's where's Kavanaugh captain? Trade down? Think studio.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about what he's doing tonight. Guys, we're all
Speaker 1: right here. You guys have fun with Jeff over the
Speaker 1: week it was so sad. I'm just saying I would absolutely,
Speaker 1: especially do I want to trade down to twenty eight
Speaker 1: with the Saints. Not really Bears give up their first
Speaker 1: this year, the fifth this year, their first next year,
Speaker 1: and their fourth next year's. The Giants now have two
Speaker 1: first round picks next year. Dave Gettleman saying in your
Speaker 1: face every while, that's a pretty good trade. That's a
Speaker 1: solid trade, I think. And we talked about how tough
Speaker 1: it would be to go from twenty to ten and
Speaker 1: how much of a haul that would take. There's your
Speaker 1: answer to go from twenty to eleven. If you're the Bears.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's giving up next year is one
Speaker 1: is tough, but you know you still have a two
Speaker 1: and o three this year and you theoretically have your quarterback.
Speaker 1: I'll steal this point from Brian. Ryan Pace is like,
Speaker 1: I don't give it. That's not my problem. If we
Speaker 1: don't win this year, I'm fired and you you're almost
Speaker 1: surprised that ownership off on it. But hey, if this
Speaker 1: is Fields right when you think it Fields over mac Jones, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I mean it should not be a question. It shouldn't be,
Speaker 1: but you never know it's not. So the Giants pick,
Speaker 1: by the way, that they just received from Chicago is
Speaker 1: one sixty four, just for those keeping track at home,
Speaker 1: So one sixty four is the pick. Pick is in
Speaker 1: for Chicago, by the way, and Dallas of course on
Speaker 1: the clock next I would have to think it's Parsons
Speaker 1: or you're trading out at this point. Maybe Slater in
Speaker 1: there as well, But kind of like how you said, Dave,
Speaker 1: there wasn't a whole lot of smoke with the Slater
Speaker 1: pick and talking about these offensive tackles, but once again,
Speaker 1: that would set direct message about how they feel about
Speaker 1: their offensive tackle health. Yeah. Well, I mean there is
Speaker 1: more smoke for Slater than there was for Jeremiah Usu Koramoa.
Speaker 1: But I agree for you, and I think this is
Speaker 1: this is going to be interesting. I do wonder, you know,
Speaker 1: if it's another one of those cases of like BPA
Speaker 1: or the like. Do you lean toward need Teams lean
Speaker 1: toward Need way more than they want to admit, and
Speaker 1: so I'll be curious. I think you know, we've all
Speaker 1: already said we would draft Slater. I won't be surprised
Speaker 1: if they draft Parsons. I mean, I'm kind of on
Speaker 1: the bandwagon of a quarterback is going to go here,
Speaker 1: quarterback is gonna go at twelve. Then you've got thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,
Speaker 1: let's let's if the Patriots want mac Jones, let them
Speaker 1: come up and get them. Would you take pick ninety
Speaker 1: six and lose a trade because that's that's that's close,
Speaker 1: could go back to fifteen? Yeah, yeah, I would. I
Speaker 1: think you could be trade. You could be going away
Speaker 1: from a guy you like. It's true. I think the
Speaker 1: guys that they love like love are gone. Chicago. Pick
Speaker 1: is in Goodell is at the stand. I think they're
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Speaker 1: Miller Wite. So the Cowboys are about to be back
Speaker 1: on the clock on draft Day to Gandy, Dalton's a
Speaker 1: little pissed off. Fandy Dalton didn't see this coming. He's
Speaker 1: not smart. That's true. You're the starter, Andy, Well, he
Speaker 1: still could be like, I mean, you got you got
Speaker 1: fields for five years. If he's not ready, he's not ready.
Speaker 1: You don't have your coach at GM for five years.
Speaker 1: It's fair. It's a good point. So, still talking about
Speaker 1: this draft the thon as the pick is in, I
Speaker 1: think they're talking about a specific individual. I always gotta
Speaker 1: be careful because this is usually like a very feel
Speaker 1: good story, like they're doing something very nice, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: the damn pick. Yeah, but our audience is listening to us.
Speaker 1: You know, it's good. It doesn't really help out, but
Speaker 1: he is making the pick now in Chicago with the
Speaker 1: eleventh overall selection selects. Oh Man, I'm always a little early.
Speaker 1: I'm bad at this way. They're gonna do it two
Speaker 1: times true, I'll get better by the end of the weekend.
Speaker 1: Starts with the Jay Justin Fields, quarterback of Ohio State.
Speaker 1: Finally he falls and I think this is a great
Speaker 1: selection for Chicago. Yeah, great selection. It makes all the
Speaker 1: sense in the world. He felt just far enough where
Speaker 1: he was in striking distance for the Bears. Really it's
Speaker 1: a bold move. But hey, they traded up one spot
Speaker 1: for Trubisky. You can move up nine spots to get
Speaker 1: Fields and you know, Andy Dalton obviously more of the
Speaker 1: stop gap option in Chicago. Fields gives them the future.
Speaker 1: And who know, if you're Ryan Pace, if you're Matt Nagy,
Speaker 1: maybe this extend your your your time in Chicago a
Speaker 1: little bit. And I think it helps that he's an
Speaker 1: exciting player too. I mean, even when you're talking about
Speaker 1: what the morale is around that organization for Ryan Pace
Speaker 1: and Matt Nagy, who have never really fully recovered from
Speaker 1: the Trubisky pick. You know, Justin Fields all step in
Speaker 1: be fun, I think, and you gave up a lot
Speaker 1: to get there. But you know, we're talking about going
Speaker 1: from twenty to ten and how much that had cost
Speaker 1: you just a fourth this year, or just a fifth
Speaker 1: this year, a fourth next year, and then of course
Speaker 1: next year's first. But you know, again, you're you're trying
Speaker 1: and keep your job. And how many general managers you
Speaker 1: think in the history of the NFL have drafted first
Speaker 1: round quarterback in a sapan of four years, multiple first
Speaker 1: round quarterbacks? Kimeki did it. It's bad if it happens.
Speaker 1: We usually get a chance to draft one first round
Speaker 1: quarterback and if it fails, you're usually out. So you know,
Speaker 1: it's just it's just interesting that Ryan Pace gets a
Speaker 1: second chance here. I don't you know, it's not my business.
Speaker 1: I guess I shouldn't. Like, I'm not rooting for people
Speaker 1: to get fired. But you trade up for truebisky and
Speaker 1: miss that badly in the same draft that Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: went eight spots later. That's it for me. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: maybe I don't want you making these decisions. We're goofing
Speaker 1: in the war room here. We're alive and well, just
Speaker 1: hanging out here. What do you guys thinks going on?
Speaker 1: Let's take a look in there and see what's going on.
Speaker 1: Anyboddy on the phone, I can't see it as well.
Speaker 1: There's a good look at it. Actually, I do see
Speaker 1: Will on the phone, which Will is usually the person
Speaker 1: who calls these guys. So so the selection probably made
Speaker 1: pass this Cowboys, Okay, yeah, oh yeah, we're making it.
Speaker 1: We're making a pick. If it goes from Will to Jerry,
Speaker 1: we're making a pick. So who do you think it is? Slater, Parsons?
Speaker 1: If you're making me, if you're making me, say I
Speaker 1: would say Parsons. I would say Parsons as well. I'm
Speaker 1: an optimist sulsa Slater. There you go. I mean, if
Speaker 1: I'm making the pickets, Slater, but I think they would
Speaker 1: pick Parsons. I see, that's exactly how I feel here.
Speaker 1: But you talk about the defense and just how poor
Speaker 1: they were last year, just how much of a question
Speaker 1: mark that linebacker room is, you can see Parsons making sense.
Speaker 1: What sucks. My favorite thing about draft weekend is normally,
Speaker 1: you know the coach of the player that's getting picked
Speaker 1: is going to come in and congratulate and maybe sometimes
Speaker 1: even talk to the guy. Probably not going to see
Speaker 1: that this year because only ten people are allowed in
Speaker 1: the war room. So that's typically something that helps us
Speaker 1: get tipped off. About who they're talking to, and I'm
Speaker 1: just not convinced we're going to get that this year.
Speaker 1: Like I would love to see Joe Philbin walking in
Speaker 1: the room right now, because then we would know there's
Speaker 1: Mike Mike is on the phone. I'm very pro Beard McCarthy,
Speaker 1: season McCarthy. It's fantastic. By the way, I want to
Speaker 1: thank our friends at Miller Lite as the draft pick
Speaker 1: has been made. The pick is in now officially on
Speaker 1: NFL Network, Mike McCarthy having that phone call. But man,
Speaker 1: right here, Slater is probably the top player offensively. Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons is the best player defensively, Dane. Is that true
Speaker 1: to your board as well? Yeah? Yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 1: with Parsons. A good is a good player. Got a
Speaker 1: fist pump? Fist pump. Do we have a defensive or
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator I'm looking for here? Come on, no, no,
Speaker 1: assistant coach Williams. Okay, whose arm is that? I was like,
Speaker 1: is that, Dan Quinn? What are we doing here? I
Speaker 1: wonder if the coordinators are even in the room, because,
Speaker 1: like you said, not a whole lot of extra people
Speaker 1: in the room this year. Personnel in the war room.
Speaker 1: This is like this is always the worst radio of
Speaker 1: the whole show. It is. We've talked about him six months,
Speaker 1: We've talked about it since the end of December. Who
Speaker 1: will be the Cowboys selection at ten? Guess what? They
Speaker 1: didn't pick it ten. They traded back, picked up pick
Speaker 1: number eighty four from the hated Philadelphia Eagles. They now
Speaker 1: hold the twelfth pick in the draft, just five selections
Speaker 1: higher than they selected a year ago. And they've got
Speaker 1: a chance to add to either side of the football
Speaker 1: in the trenches technically, I guess front seven on the
Speaker 1: defensive side, and then you talk about offensive tackle on
Speaker 1: the offensive side that live from inside the fort side.
Speaker 1: Just I think back to something Mike said on Tuesday
Speaker 1: at the draft press conference, which is that they want
Speaker 1: this team to be faster. They weren't fast last year,
Speaker 1: not on the defensive side of the ball. And say
Speaker 1: what you will about him, but a linebacker who runs
Speaker 1: a four to three nine unofficial forties seems pretty damn
Speaker 1: fast to me. Yeah. And like I said, Hey, I
Speaker 1: love Rashawn Slater too, But I think we're I think
Speaker 1: we're welcoming Michael Parsons to Dallas. I think so too.
Speaker 1: I think that would be the pig. Well, it's interesting
Speaker 1: because what does that mean for the linebackers currently on
Speaker 1: the stroster. It means it's certainly possible Layton vander esh
Speaker 1: isn't going to see his option picked up on Monday afternoon.
Speaker 1: I mean, you got to consider that. That's a good point.
Speaker 1: It's not going to be a storyline. There's ten million angles,
Speaker 1: and you know, we'll let we'll let Roger make the pick,
Speaker 1: I guess. But I mean if that's the pick, and
Speaker 1: we think it is, then there's a lot to get
Speaker 1: into there because they have a chance, you know, they
Speaker 1: could draft another linebacker later in this draft and just
Speaker 1: completely revamp this whole thing in one swoop, kind of
Speaker 1: like they did with cornerback a few years ago. So
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell with a Cowboys fan up at the stand
Speaker 1: at the moment, they're going to do another draft of
Speaker 1: thon thing. So oh man, talk about the nerves here.
Speaker 1: But hey, either way, you feel like you're a better
Speaker 1: football team after this pick, no matter which way they
Speaker 1: go on the crossroads, right, better football team, better football team.
Speaker 1: That's and you know, it's it's what we always say,
Speaker 1: is it's and like I said, trading back and getting
Speaker 1: the extra pick off makes me feel a lot better.
Speaker 1: It offsets some of the disappointment. I agree. You know,
Speaker 1: I'll let Dane do the player break down. Well, he
Speaker 1: OpEd it out this past year, but you have to
Speaker 1: feel great about him playing two years and he led
Speaker 1: the team and tackles both years. Hey, one of those
Speaker 1: years wasn't even a starter. So this isn't talent wise.
Speaker 1: I mean, signed me up. Michael Parsons is a good player.
Speaker 1: Now we can talk about the value and all of that.
Speaker 1: That's where I think that's that's more of where the
Speaker 1: sticking or you know, where we might have an issue.
Speaker 1: By the way, the pick is in selection been made
Speaker 1: with a twelfth overall pick in the twenty twenty one
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. The newest Dallas Cowboy to put a star
Speaker 1: on the side of his helmet is go ahead, Kyle
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, linebacker out of PINNs State. He is the pick.
Speaker 1: He will be a Dallas Cowboy. He wanted to be here. Hey,
Speaker 1: he looks good at Navy. We know that already, and
Speaker 1: he will be the newest Dallas Cowboy. How about that?
Speaker 1: Presented by Miller Light, Let's go ahead and toast to
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons feels good after selecting one another top one
Speaker 1: hundred pick, because I think that's something that you could
Speaker 1: feel good about. Miller lead and taste, Miller time, cheers, fantastic.
Speaker 1: But man, Michael Parsons is here in Dallas. Now, what
Speaker 1: do you do for the rest of the draft? Where
Speaker 1: you get your corner Well, you know, I mean you
Speaker 1: have a Miller light and then you have figured it out.
Speaker 1: That's and that's the fun part of the puzzle is
Speaker 1: regardless of what you think you have now addressed linebacker
Speaker 1: in a big way. You still could obviously if the
Speaker 1: right player falls to you, but it's something you don't
Speaker 1: have to stress about. And to Katie's point, we can
Speaker 1: go cornerback hunt and we got four shots at it,
Speaker 1: you know, starting with forty four, so you're gonna have
Speaker 1: all kinds of options. And yeah, I would imagine they're
Speaker 1: gonna look at dbs in a big way tomorrow night.
Speaker 1: I think that's going to be the theme that it
Speaker 1: was cornerback and linebacker for me and so you've you've
Speaker 1: handled one of those things, and I feel like they're
Speaker 1: going to take a hard look at the secondary tomorrow
Speaker 1: night and what we've been talking this whole time cornerback stretches.
Speaker 1: It's a position in the second round where you're going
Speaker 1: to have options. I mean, who knows both Georgia corners
Speaker 1: could be there if you have to Melafon, who could
Speaker 1: be there? Uh, you know Robinson from UCF. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of cornerbacks. You know, I'm sure as disappointed as
Speaker 1: they are about those corners not being there, they're getting
Speaker 1: a good player at Michael Parsons and they can feel
Speaker 1: good about the cornerback depth on day two, so you know,
Speaker 1: And it's interesting in a year like this as long
Speaker 1: as you're comfortable with Michael Parsons in terms of, you know,
Speaker 1: just how he's going to fit in your locker room
Speaker 1: and that whole element of this pick. The talents unquestioned,
Speaker 1: whether there's rushing the pastor playing off ball, whatever you
Speaker 1: ask him to do. He has the athleticism that's just
Speaker 1: different than most guys that are six three two forty six.
Speaker 1: And by the way, getting word that they did field
Speaker 1: calls certainly from teams behind him to potentially move back.
Speaker 1: Apparently the Patriots were one of those teams that were
Speaker 1: in the conversation but ultimately Michael Parsons ends up being
Speaker 1: the pick, and I don't blame him for making that selection.
Speaker 1: And I feel like over the course of the draft show,
Speaker 1: I feel like we've done pretty poor of a job
Speaker 1: of kind of outlining exactly what kind of player Parsons
Speaker 1: is because we have some concerns. Sure, there are some
Speaker 1: question marks, but this is a hell of a football
Speaker 1: player that's going to immediately see a large role on
Speaker 1: this defense. I will throw this out there, though, and
Speaker 1: I think it's important. A big part of that is
Speaker 1: because it's hard to give a true outline. One I
Speaker 1: just tweeted this. You know, we haven't talked to Dan
Speaker 1: Quinn all spring. I don't coin sense for how he
Speaker 1: wants to use him. I can't guess. The other thing,
Speaker 1: Micah Parsons is a bit of a projection. What made
Speaker 1: JC Horn and Patrick Surtan so enticing is that they've
Speaker 1: just been doing it down after town. And I'm not
Speaker 1: blaming Michael Parsons for opting out, but that's ten. You know, well,
Speaker 1: he's in the Big ten. So that's probably seven to
Speaker 1: eight games of tape that we didn't get from him
Speaker 1: not playing. Again, not blaming him at all, But it
Speaker 1: is more of a projection to guess how he'll progress.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a super young, super raw football player.
Speaker 1: You can get lost in the sauce too when you
Speaker 1: start thinking too far ahead on nights like this too,
Speaker 1: where you talked a little bit about the Laton Vanderesh
Speaker 1: fifth year option and what that can mean. And we
Speaker 1: talked about this two months ago and it was, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, guaranteeing Jalen's money for this year when there
Speaker 1: was a deadline for that. We start thinking, but that's
Speaker 1: the business of this game. Um. You know, Michael Parsons
Speaker 1: needs to be on the field a lot, and I
Speaker 1: think you will be. I think you will be. Who's
Speaker 1: coming off. Who's who's going to lose snaps because of this?
Speaker 1: Is it Kean O'Neill, Is it Jalen Smith? You know
Speaker 1: who's who's who's gonna lose snaps because of this? Because
Speaker 1: he plays um And I think that there's a couple
Speaker 1: things that Data mentioned too, talking about how he can
Speaker 1: blitz and things like that. His coverage skills are good.
Speaker 1: I was not a fan on tape A few times.
Speaker 1: You had a little issues with run fits and things
Speaker 1: like that, and that's bothersome. But this is a guy
Speaker 1: who again is a young guy and will continue to
Speaker 1: you know, grow in a little bit. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: not terribly concerned about the you know, you know, the
Speaker 1: quiets that were off the field and things like that,
Speaker 1: and you can go find those if you want. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, it feels like that's a thing that it
Speaker 1: was a mistake from a you know, an early age.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think I think you've got a
Speaker 1: good talent. You got a top ten talent in the draft,
Speaker 1: you got an extra pick to get it, and the
Speaker 1: Horn certain thing was out of your hands unless you
Speaker 1: wanted to move up, and I didn't want to move
Speaker 1: one of those guys. That's kind of where I'm at
Speaker 1: as well. That's I agree. And if you're going pure BPA,
Speaker 1: maybe it should have been Slater, But we had a
Speaker 1: feeling they were going to lead defense in this draft,
Speaker 1: and you can't argue with the guy's talent. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, if they had drafted Micah Parsons over JC Horn,
Speaker 1: I think we'd probably feel some type of way about that,
Speaker 1: but they didn't. It was out of their control. Can
Speaker 1: I add two on the latent man rush fitth your
Speaker 1: option decision that they'll have next week. Just because you
Speaker 1: had decline of guys fit your option, doesn't mean he's gone.
Speaker 1: Like he plays for another year and then he's a
Speaker 1: free agent and then you can still sign him and
Speaker 1: just play on the fields, tag him and you can
Speaker 1: do all kinds of So maybe you've just feel better
Speaker 1: about him than the guy that you have next to
Speaker 1: him if you want to extend the option. I mean,
Speaker 1: those have a lot to prove on the field in
Speaker 1: twenty one, quite frankly, and they will determine, you know,
Speaker 1: what this team does with them. The Cowboys they needed
Speaker 1: a linebacker desperately, not necessarily for twenty twenty one, but
Speaker 1: because Layton's option and injury history, and let's be frank
Speaker 1: Jalen had a very disappointing season. They guaranteed his salary,
Speaker 1: so he's here for twenty twenty one. But if you
Speaker 1: don't see better return on your investment this year, then
Speaker 1: that's a conversation for next year about like do you
Speaker 1: go forward with this guy? And now Michael Parsons gives
Speaker 1: you the freedom to make decisions like that, you don't
Speaker 1: you know, if you want to pick up Layton's option.
Speaker 1: That's great if you don't. Parsons gives you that flexibility.
Speaker 1: And I'm getting way ahead of myself, But if you
Speaker 1: want to have a conversation about moving on from Jalen Smith,
Speaker 1: I feel I'll have a lot better about it with
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons on the roster than I would without him.
Speaker 1: Now we've seen first round picks. I mean, Jalen Smith
Speaker 1: was the second round pick. Layton Vanderesh was a first
Speaker 1: round pick in his own right. But is this the
Speaker 1: most talented linebacker you have on your roster right now? Yes,
Speaker 1: you think so. Off the straight, off the back, he
Speaker 1: might be. I mean, I guess you stuff to get
Speaker 1: like de Marcus Lawrenson the benefit of that, he might
Speaker 1: be your he's your most talented David's a player right now? Wow,
Speaker 1: I mean DeMarcus Lawrenson then him Michael Parsons From from
Speaker 1: a talent standpoint, Yeah, I'm sure that played a huge role.
Speaker 1: And that's making that selection. Yeah that this was never
Speaker 1: this was never about how talented he was, Like for me,
Speaker 1: like I keep saying, for me, it was always about
Speaker 1: positional value. How much does a linebacker affect the passing game?
Speaker 1: And That's why I keep saying, like I hope I
Speaker 1: would love to talk to dan Quinn. That would be
Speaker 1: so much fun. Yeah. Um, you know dan Quinn likes
Speaker 1: like he used Bruce Irvan in Seattle to get after
Speaker 1: the quarterback a lot. You know that was he was
Speaker 1: a pass Russia DPR specialist Vic Beasley nowhere near as
Speaker 1: athletic as Parsons as an off ball linebacker, but again
Speaker 1: using like a linebacker type player to rush the passer
Speaker 1: if you like, you know they call it the leo
Speaker 1: that that's the big thing that dan Quinn's known for.
Speaker 1: If this guy can line up and come off the
Speaker 1: edge or come unblocked through the middle like we saw
Speaker 1: him do so many times on tape and get you
Speaker 1: you know, we saw how valuable Devin Smith was as
Speaker 1: a pass rusher in Tampa. If you can get those
Speaker 1: kind of numbers out of this guy, I'm all for it.
Speaker 1: I loved because that's great. That's affecting the passing game.
Speaker 1: That's what I want. And to pick this big So
Speaker 1: I really hope that they intend to use him that way.
Speaker 1: We knew he had to get us a real quick call.
Speaker 1: We know how to get a corner at some point,
Speaker 1: and they will. We know that's gonna happen tomorrow or
Speaker 1: maybe they jump back here. It'll probably be tomorrow or off.
Speaker 1: That's an offensive line is something that we talked about.
Speaker 1: They need to get one. They need to get an
Speaker 1: offensive tackle in here, just in case they need to
Speaker 1: get one in here. And that's that's the thing that
Speaker 1: bums me out is when you're standing going into day
Speaker 1: two going why I didn't get a cornerback or an
Speaker 1: offensive tackle. That bothers me a little bit, But again,
Speaker 1: out of your hands. This is later you could have had,
Speaker 1: and that I would have taken later. But I gotta
Speaker 1: get over that. They don't care what I think. Trust me,
Speaker 1: I'm there right. Well, yeah, Kyle, it might be the
Speaker 1: captain of that. I was the captain of this later bandwagon,
Speaker 1: and I will Reshaans later. He's gonna be a really
Speaker 1: good ballplayer for somebody down the road. Yes, and I
Speaker 1: wish probably the Los Angeles charge probably. Yeah. That's a
Speaker 1: good point. Um No, and Katie, to your point, I've
Speaker 1: been talking about this all year. I think of it.
Speaker 1: Really it's it's a four pick well, now it's a
Speaker 1: five pick jigsaw puzzle like we cannot predict who the
Speaker 1: tenth or eventually twelfth overall pick will be. Maybe it
Speaker 1: would have been Curtan, maybe it would have been Horn.
Speaker 1: It wound up being Parsons. And all that means now
Speaker 1: is like, instead of having cornerback taking care of tonight,
Speaker 1: you got linebacker taking care of So now we're hunt.
Speaker 1: Now we're hunting dbs and tackles, because ibbs and tackles.
Speaker 1: They got to come out of tomorrow with one of
Speaker 1: each of those. In my opinion, Yeah, well, and we've
Speaker 1: talked about it already. But the situation that they were
Speaker 1: faced with with Horn off the board at eight, Curtan
Speaker 1: off the board at nine, the fact that you picked
Speaker 1: up an extra top one hundred player and you still
Speaker 1: probably got the guy you were going to draft at
Speaker 1: ten anyways, because it was the same two guys available.
Speaker 1: Vante Smith went off at ten to Philadelphia, and then
Speaker 1: you turn around you pick the quarterback with the trade
Speaker 1: with Chicago at eleven. Have have some faith You're sitting
Speaker 1: there like, no, the guy we draft isn't gonna be
Speaker 1: on the magazine. Yeah, he's right, the right, But you
Speaker 1: got the same guy you were going to probably pick anyway,
Speaker 1: So this was this was a win for the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: And like you said, it makes you feel better because
Speaker 1: you have that eighty fourth pick you could make that
Speaker 1: you could turn that pick around and get right back
Speaker 1: up in the first round if you wanted to, or
Speaker 1: just get a first round code a football player. Wait,
Speaker 1: I mean either one. I'm not saying either one's fine,
Speaker 1: but you can do a lot of stuff. That's the
Speaker 1: extra pick makes me feel so much better. Here's the
Speaker 1: Chargers selection. Can I have this one, Colin, Yeah, go
Speaker 1: for it. I mean, I feel like you're in any
Speaker 1: time to just kind of overhappen. I am all for
Speaker 1: you making this call. Thirteenth pick in the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: one NFL Draft, the Los Angeles Chargers select offensive lineman
Speaker 1: Rashawn Slater from Northwestern. Great pick. How you like that,
Speaker 1: col Haw's that feel? It's sounded fantastic. It broke my heart.
Speaker 1: I wanted him. I wanted him so bad. Let me
Speaker 1: let me say this parsoneral quick and then I'll be
Speaker 1: done on him for a while. He's a three down player,
Speaker 1: he doesn't come off the field, and I just spent
Speaker 1: the number twelve pick on the draft on him. And
Speaker 1: I've been a little disappointed in the availability of Laton
Speaker 1: Vanderesh and the on field play of Jalen Smith. Parsons
Speaker 1: does not come off the football field, and that's what
Speaker 1: I need to know, is how they're going to treat
Speaker 1: this because if they're not treating it that way, then
Speaker 1: I would have gone somewhere else. I get that you're
Speaker 1: trying to make me feel better here, Katie, and you're
Speaker 1: doing a really good job of it. Just wanted to
Speaker 1: let you know because the more I think about this pick,
Speaker 1: the more I like it, just based off of the
Speaker 1: fact that one you picked up the extra selection and
Speaker 1: you're able to go down and get this guy who's
Speaker 1: going like and you said it yourself, he could very
Speaker 1: well be the most talented player on your defense. Liking
Speaker 1: the pick is contingent on how they use him, though.
Speaker 1: If they if they go out and they treat him
Speaker 1: like he's behind Vanderesh and Jalen, that's gonna be frustrating.
Speaker 1: That would be very strong to me. He is now
Speaker 1: he is. You're the same thing we talked about with
Speaker 1: Van h in twenty seventeen. All Right, I'm now talking
Speaker 1: about that with Michael Parsons. In terms of how I
Speaker 1: view that position. He doesn't come off the field like
Speaker 1: that's I'm with happens. I'm with you, But how do
Speaker 1: they view that? And that's what I always wonder about
Speaker 1: when you start talking about just how long a merit
Speaker 1: and meritocracy and all that stuff, how long guys have
Speaker 1: been in this? To me, takes Jalen off the field,
Speaker 1: and and maybe Jalen plays because late Marish gets hurt again,
Speaker 1: but like I hope not, But this is this is
Speaker 1: this is low key, like there's so many wrinkles to this.
Speaker 1: We've obviously talked about Layton and Jalen. Don't forget we
Speaker 1: mentioned it at the top. Keanu Neal is supposed to
Speaker 1: play linebacker too. What's going on here? Where are these
Speaker 1: guys gonna go? Keanter Neil may not be playing safety.
Speaker 1: Neil isn't guaranteed to make the team based on the
Speaker 1: amount of money they gave him and based on what
Speaker 1: the track record has been out of free agent safeties
Speaker 1: over the last two years, Hawklinton Dix. So that's that's
Speaker 1: really fascinating to think about. And I'm with you, Kati Aspet.
Speaker 1: After last season, spare me, spare me, like paying your
Speaker 1: dues or whatever, Like no job should be guaranteed on
Speaker 1: this defense other than maybe not at all, other than
Speaker 1: maybe DeMarcus Lawrence because of I mean, let's be real,
Speaker 1: how much money you're paying him, and because he's a
Speaker 1: damn good football player. But if Mike I mean Micah Parsons,
Speaker 1: if Jalen Smith has to get off the field for
Speaker 1: him good, If Layton Vanderesh has to get off the
Speaker 1: field for him good. How would you guys like to
Speaker 1: hear from the newest Dallas Cowboy. I'd love it. So
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and go to the secret audio. This
Speaker 1: is in the war room between Jerry Jones, Will McClay,
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, and company as the Dallas Cowboys select Michael Parsons,
Speaker 1: linebacker out of pin State, with a twelfth overall pick.
Speaker 1: Hey Michael, Hey, how you doing? Hey man, I'm honored
Speaker 1: to ben proud to be talking to you this Jerry Jones,
Speaker 1: and I'm calling you to tell you we're turning your
Speaker 1: card in. You're going you're a cowboy? You don't I
Speaker 1: think it's too big for you to be a cowboy?
Speaker 1: Do you not at all? Hey? Well listen, uh We've
Speaker 1: sure enjoyed watching how you have progressed in your career,
Speaker 1: and you had great support in this room. So we're
Speaker 1: proud to get you. Coach Quinn smiling from here. There
Speaker 1: he's here, smiling, got his thumb up. He's your defensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna hand you over to our head coach. Okay,
Speaker 1: good sir, Mike McCarthy. Here he is, Michael. Congratulations, very good. Hey, linebacker,
Speaker 1: you gotta keep the good tradition going. I was covering
Speaker 1: y'all stole it. Yeah. Yeah, well, hey man, I'm from
Speaker 1: one PA guy to another. I'm looking forward to getting
Speaker 1: a dinner. This is a You're a great fit for us,
Speaker 1: young man. I'm looking at coach. Let's get the work
Speaker 1: right down. Yeah, we'll do. Hey, Jorda's time, Jorda's moment
Speaker 1: with your family. Congratulations, Will, thank you so much. All right, Michael,
Speaker 1: God bless you. That's awesome. It's really cool. You can
Speaker 1: hear that exactly old. That was super cool. But I
Speaker 1: feel a little bit cheated. I love the part where
Speaker 1: Will says he is William Clay with the Cowboys. I
Speaker 1: got somebody that really wants to talk to you. And
Speaker 1: then he throws it over to Jerry occasionally on this
Speaker 1: Hay stud the old Rods you know well, and you know,
Speaker 1: obviously with Jason Garrett no longer here, my absolute favorite
Speaker 1: is it's a great day, great day for you, but
Speaker 1: it's also a great day for us. The same line,
Speaker 1: the Jets are up at fourteen, which means a trade
Speaker 1: is happened. Yeah, they traded with Minnesota backed out of
Speaker 1: that or the Vikings rather packed out of that pick.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting to see what the Jets actually
Speaker 1: gave up to get back up in that direction because
Speaker 1: they had thirty four tomorrow and they had twenty three
Speaker 1: to six. Yeah, they did have twenty three. That was
Speaker 1: from the Jamal Adams trade. So we'll find out. The
Speaker 1: pick is in New York with who took Zach Wilson
Speaker 1: at two? Who could this be? Well, be a edge
Speaker 1: rusher or offensive line could be in the mix too.
Speaker 1: M Christian Darrisaw, you know, I kind of have the job.
Speaker 1: I think the Chargers were feeling really good about getting
Speaker 1: Slater there at thirteen. I mean I had mocked Dara
Speaker 1: Saw and Vera Tucker to them multiple times, knowing the
Speaker 1: Chargers needed offensive line help. What the Jets need is
Speaker 1: a lot of things because it's not a very good roster,
Speaker 1: but they're they're improving. I think offensive line is the
Speaker 1: play though, and you know, for me, the next offensive
Speaker 1: lineman's Elijah Vera Tucker. But you know, Christian Darisaw is
Speaker 1: a tackle from Virginia Tech who could also be in
Speaker 1: the mix. But you know, I feel like that's the play.
Speaker 1: And I still want to see the details in this
Speaker 1: trade because the Jets have so many, you know, picks
Speaker 1: coming up in the top forty, So I'm still kind
Speaker 1: of waiting on that, on the full information on what
Speaker 1: they got. Yeah, I'm still trying to look for that
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Speaker 1: So now it's just down to you and me, Katie.
Speaker 1: It's been a wild ride so far, and I think,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll be interested to see how interested the
Speaker 1: cowboys are getting back in tonight. But there's a part
Speaker 1: of me that kind of says, hey, man, you've done
Speaker 1: some damage. You got back, you got a good player,
Speaker 1: you got an extra pick in the top one hundred.
Speaker 1: Let's go get ready for tomorrow. If you want to
Speaker 1: get ready to go, maybe put together some some some
Speaker 1: trade ideas. Maybe if you needed to jump into the
Speaker 1: thirties and things like that. I do have the details
Speaker 1: in this Vikings trade. Okay, So the Vikings traded fourteen
Speaker 1: and one forty three to the Jets, So the Vikings
Speaker 1: will get twenty three, sixty six and eighty six. So
Speaker 1: you said one fourteen, fourteen and one forty three, one
Speaker 1: forty three. Sorry, yeah, fourteen, one forty three. So the
Speaker 1: next next to last pick in the first round or
Speaker 1: excuse me, fourth round. Yes, So Vikings are twenty three
Speaker 1: and they are sixty six and they are eighty six. Gotcha.
Speaker 1: So a lot of picks for the Vikings in the
Speaker 1: top one hundred now all of a sudden when they
Speaker 1: did this last year as well, you think about it
Speaker 1: with my Minnesota, I mean, they loaded up on guys
Speaker 1: last year, especially after that first round. They ended up
Speaker 1: taking Justin Jefferson at twelve, a pick they got from Buffalo,
Speaker 1: and then they worked their way back down the sheet
Speaker 1: to I believe they had another top one hundred pick
Speaker 1: that was pretty good, Ezra Cleveland, the offensive tackle from
Speaker 1: boy Easy State, that was at fifty eight last year.
Speaker 1: But they had a ton of picks on the late
Speaker 1: day too early Day three part of the draft a
Speaker 1: year ago. So maybe they're lightning backup to try and
Speaker 1: do that after not really the greatest year here. If
Speaker 1: you had to guess with the Jets, maybe you want
Speaker 1: to protect your quarterback here, right, I mean, offensive line
Speaker 1: is certainly in play. You just drafted Zach Wilson up
Speaker 1: at the number two selection, could you think about going
Speaker 1: with Christian Darrisaw here? I mean, of course, the wide
Speaker 1: receiver's pass catchers are really off the board. Maybe you
Speaker 1: go with a linebacker if you wanted to shure up
Speaker 1: that defense. But I think this is pretty good chance
Speaker 1: we're gonna see Darrisaw's name called, right, and Darisa or
Speaker 1: Vera Tuckers caused me. I mean, you start talking about
Speaker 1: these offensive tackles kind of the same way you start
Speaker 1: talking about these cornerbacks to a certain extent, and you know,
Speaker 1: cornerbacks the position that the jetski goes, well, oh you've
Speaker 1: got to pick here, Colin, let's do Oh, thank you
Speaker 1: very much. Kati with the fourteenth pick in the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one NFL Draft, the New York Jets their second selection.
Speaker 1: Take you're gonna get this eventually. I get Yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to time it out. Guard out of USC
Speaker 1: Elijah Vera Tucker. I mean I thought maybe tackle would
Speaker 1: be a need there, but you even mentioned a kat
Speaker 1: that's a really good football player for the Jets that
Speaker 1: were really excited to get right back up into things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's Elijah Vera Tucker, you know, in my opinion, was
Speaker 1: kind of pretty close to the Seul Slater tier. There's
Speaker 1: a little bit of a difference, but pretty close. Played
Speaker 1: left guard in twenty nineteen and he took over in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty at left tackle, and you know, proved that,
Speaker 1: you know, he can handle that responsibility. I still think,
Speaker 1: you know, to me, he's probably a little bit better
Speaker 1: guard than a tackle, but he did appear that he
Speaker 1: could handle it. And if you can handle it, you're
Speaker 1: gonna tryhim at tackle and see if it works. You know,
Speaker 1: he plays very, very very well in terms of playing
Speaker 1: with his hands and and has the strength. You know,
Speaker 1: he never looks overwhelmed. Good feet, things like that. The
Speaker 1: link is an issue sometimes and almost a big question
Speaker 1: that people had with Slater, and I think sometimes those
Speaker 1: things when you start looking at numbers on that I
Speaker 1: prefer to look at the tape than the numbers when
Speaker 1: it comes to the length, because do they look like
Speaker 1: they're struggling. You know. The difference in these two guys
Speaker 1: is that, you know, Rashaun Slayer moves a little bit
Speaker 1: better than Elijah Vera Tucker, just a little bit. And
Speaker 1: that's the that's the difference to me, So good pick
Speaker 1: for the Jets. So at fourteen, I'd like to trade
Speaker 1: for Minnesota, loading up getting a pick at sixty six,
Speaker 1: getting a pick at eighty six, and then you know,
Speaker 1: the Jets are coming up again at what you said
Speaker 1: right early in the second round, they're coming up at
Speaker 1: thirty four, second pick. There have a chance to get
Speaker 1: some action there. So there's a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of good fun to be had, and that puts the
Speaker 1: Patriots on the clock. And we've talked about this a
Speaker 1: million times. Mac Jones is the final quarterback left. It's
Speaker 1: so Patriots that actually it's really a Baltimore thing that
Speaker 1: you know, after all this talk about mac Jones being
Speaker 1: a top five pick, he could just be sitting there
Speaker 1: at fifteen for him. Yeah. And the only thing more
Speaker 1: typical than that would be as if they pass on
Speaker 1: him for something else. Kyl, you said that you thought
Speaker 1: that the phone there cow was were at least taking
Speaker 1: calls at twelve twice, both from New England. I mean
Speaker 1: they were coming. They were coming to get someone. They
Speaker 1: were coming up to get mac Jones. That's a good point.
Speaker 1: If they were going to go get somebody, or maybe
Speaker 1: they wanted one of those Parsons too. Maybe Belichicks, the
Speaker 1: defensive guy, just always think about like, yeah, maybe they
Speaker 1: did want Parsons because there's been some I think there's
Speaker 1: been some interest there mutually between New England and between
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons. So maybe that is what it was. But
Speaker 1: like you said, Mac Jones is sitting there prime for
Speaker 1: the picking. Right here. This is where the draft gets
Speaker 1: a lot of kind of fun in terms of you
Speaker 1: start looking today two and things like that. But when
Speaker 1: does the run on cornerbacks begin? When does the run
Speaker 1: on offensive tackles begin? If you need that defensive lineman even,
Speaker 1: you know, when does that start to happen? Did the
Speaker 1: cornerbacks start flying? What happens with Caleb Farley? How far
Speaker 1: does Greg Knewsom slide? And he's like, I know it's
Speaker 1: early start thinking about those things. But you start looking
Speaker 1: at the tea in New England. They've got Cam Newton
Speaker 1: for another year, they need wide receiver help, they need cornerback.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that, Like that's the We're getting
Speaker 1: into the range now where we don't know what I
Speaker 1: don't know, we don't know. I mean, this is it
Speaker 1: Elijah Vera Tucker is probably the last thing I feel
Speaker 1: good about. Yeah. No, And this is where also we
Speaker 1: talked about it thirteen twelve, thirteen fourteen players, you're in
Speaker 1: that top ten, don't trade too far out of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you did that deal with New England, you would
Speaker 1: be dropping back to fifteen. Chance Michael Parsons, a guy
Speaker 1: you like, isn't there? Probably not there. I think it
Speaker 1: would probably be the way to say it. I mean
Speaker 1: later definitely going to be there. I bet Parsons would
Speaker 1: be a Patriot if the Cowboys hadn't taken him. That's
Speaker 1: kind of what I'm thinking. It feels so Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, looking at I mean some of the other
Speaker 1: potential trade ups that have been tossed around. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Saints are still sitting there at twenty eight now.
Speaker 1: There's not necessarily a corner for them to go get.
Speaker 1: They could probably wait on maybe a Greg Newsom to fall.
Speaker 1: The Ravens could have traded up for a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Maybe they want to go try and get somebody like
Speaker 1: a Rashod Bateman out of Minnesota. They have a couple
Speaker 1: of options there as well. The Patriots selection is in.
Speaker 1: It is Mac Jones. I'm gonna let Dave just announce
Speaker 1: the picks from here on out. I'm Mac Jones, Mac Jones. Sorry,
Speaker 1: is that a rap lyric? Oh? My god, Kyle, are
Speaker 1: you even born when Mike Jones was everything? No? What
Speaker 1: when was that? Back then? They didn't want me. Now
Speaker 1: I'm hot. They allaw me a little editing there for
Speaker 1: the radio. That's a good, good, good thing, I think,
Speaker 1: Mac Jones. I want you to throw this out here
Speaker 1: because Dave, I know you're big. Joe Burrow guy, listen
Speaker 1: to this. Forty four tight window throws. Last year for
Speaker 1: Mac Jones, he completed forty four tight window throws. Got
Speaker 1: that forty four forty four? How many tight window throws
Speaker 1: were completed by Joe Joe Burrow in twenty nineteen forty four?
Speaker 1: You're gonna tell me twenty eight, one hundred, twenty four,
Speaker 1: oh eighty more? God, Joe Jones the best. Mac Jones
Speaker 1: thirty four percent of his completions, so one out of
Speaker 1: every three completions came at or behind the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: I mean, the concerns they just add up with him.
Speaker 1: And maybe it gets a little more nitpicky when you
Speaker 1: talk about him at three. I had a third round
Speaker 1: grade on him, and I don't like any other quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in the draft either, But I just don't understand just
Speaker 1: some there were some deep balls. Sometimes you'd go, what
Speaker 1: and I just don't have any interest And I said this,
Speaker 1: probably don't have any interest in a guy who can't move.
Speaker 1: Sure he's accurate, but is he really process the field
Speaker 1: a ton? Or is this guy open immediately a lot?
Speaker 1: That's and with all due respect to him, like, the
Speaker 1: comparisons to Joe Burrow are insulting in my opinion, because
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow had just as much talent and that you know,
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, he's surrounded by talent, Well so
Speaker 1: is Joe Burrow. But go watch Joe Burrow. Go watch
Speaker 1: the way that he runs around in a loop in
Speaker 1: the backfield that gets away from two pass rushers and
Speaker 1: then fires a dart twenty five yards downfield. Mac Jones
Speaker 1: doesn't have the mobility to do that, not at all.
Speaker 1: I'm not convinced he's got the accuracy to do that either,
Speaker 1: because the fact of the matter is that DeVante Smith
Speaker 1: and Jalen Wattle were eight yards open the vast majority
Speaker 1: of the time. I just I don't think they're remotely comparable,
Speaker 1: even though the talent level was the thing I talk
Speaker 1: about him as he's tough though, like that said in there,
Speaker 1: take hits, but it's like, Okay, I don't need my
Speaker 1: quarterback taking a lot of hits. He's not moving. We
Speaker 1: saw this at the Senior Bowl too. He just doesn't move.
Speaker 1: And it's not always that clean, it's not, but I like,
Speaker 1: you can do things to scheme around that, right, sure,
Speaker 1: Like some of the stuff Alabama did with their receivers
Speaker 1: to help him out was fantastic. Well, and if anybody
Speaker 1: knows how to deal with an unathletic quarterback, who would
Speaker 1: it be fair? Yeah, Bill Belichick and the New England Patriots,
Speaker 1: I mean Josh McDaniels still there, right, Yes, Okay, I
Speaker 1: don't want to necessarily compare the two, but if I
Speaker 1: mean just how immobile Brady was at the end of
Speaker 1: his tenure in New England, it's the same thing with
Speaker 1: like entire tenure. I mean, that was never his thing. Now,
Speaker 1: they did sign Cam Newton to a one year deal,
Speaker 1: and that's he doesn't have to play that he doesn't
Speaker 1: have to play this year. I got my guy Jared's
Speaker 1: did him there. I mean, his dream is coming to
Speaker 1: put an end to third third round grade is probably fair,
Speaker 1: but like, these guys get overdrafted all the time. Nobody's
Speaker 1: like and it is what. I don't have a problem
Speaker 1: with a team using a first round pick on mac Jones.
Speaker 1: It was always just the whole trade away your future
Speaker 1: to draft him at three. That didn't sit right with me.
Speaker 1: The Patriots didn't do anything to get this guy. They
Speaker 1: didn't have to trade up like we thought they would.
Speaker 1: They just let him fall to them. I think, honestly,
Speaker 1: I think they're pumped about that. I think it's a
Speaker 1: really it's a really good pick. Even though I don't
Speaker 1: like Mac Jones. That's a good point. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: think I want to be fair, like I think, I
Speaker 1: just like, you know, I'm not trashing the guy. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying this hype, this top ten hype, really this
Speaker 1: top twenty hype. Right, But okay, don't I just don't Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't get it. But don't you feel better just
Speaker 1: in terms of like evaluating players, don't you feel better
Speaker 1: with him being the fifth quarterback taken at fifteen as
Speaker 1: opposed to the third quarterback taking at three. I the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks went how they should have gone, to be honest,
Speaker 1: and I mean I like Lance a little more than
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. But Lance is not a good fit for
Speaker 1: the Jets who need a quarterback now. He's a good
Speaker 1: fit for a team that doesn't need to play him immediately.
Speaker 1: I'm not convinced that we aren't overthinking this thing with Fields. Oh,
Speaker 1: I agree. I think Justin Fields is the second best
Speaker 1: quarterback in this class. But I've said that all along.
Speaker 1: But I think when we argued about this earlier in
Speaker 1: the spring, I also like, I'm so I'm so enticed
Speaker 1: by Zach Wilson that I'm willing to roll the dice
Speaker 1: even though I could be wrong. And I'm obviously the
Speaker 1: Jets field the same way. I think Chicago won their
Speaker 1: draft just by getting up and getting Fields. Going from twenty,
Speaker 1: getting up to eleven and making the pick and selecting Fields.
Speaker 1: I think that was the best pick Chicago's made in
Speaker 1: a long time. That's a really good selection. I went
Speaker 1: out of my way to make excuses for Justin Fields
Speaker 1: just because I thought it was the right thing to do.
Speaker 1: There's two games they're just glaring holes to me and
Speaker 1: it's Nebraska and it's Northwestern Western game, good secondary, a
Speaker 1: really good past defense, and a team decimated in Ohio
Speaker 1: State by COVID. At the time, he didn't have Crystal
Speaker 1: Laive and didn't have another one of the wide receivers.
Speaker 1: Offensive line was a little disheveled. The Cardinals selection is
Speaker 1: in Kyle. Oh, yeah, it's sixteen the Arizona Cardinals and
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals are selecting. This has got to be
Speaker 1: a linebacker, right, I've been thinking defense here, linebacker Xavin
Speaker 1: Collins out of Tulsa. Second straight year that Arizonas drafted
Speaker 1: a quote unquote linebacker that I mean, you drafted an
Speaker 1: absolute freak in Isaiah Simmons last year who plays the
Speaker 1: quote unquote linebacker spot. But now you bring up Zaven Collins.
Speaker 1: I don't think any of us are surprised to hear
Speaker 1: his name here, But this is kind of going back
Speaker 1: to that point where I think all bets are off now,
Speaker 1: Like people were pegging Zaven Collins as maybe mid twenties,
Speaker 1: late twenties. Nope, he's pick sixteen. Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: thought Arizona might go corner there. But we start talking,
Speaker 1: when's the next corner go and is the next corner?
Speaker 1: Greg Newsom, is it Caleb Farley? Like, that's gonna be
Speaker 1: an interesting story to follow, you know, throughout the night
Speaker 1: and into tomorrow. Perhaps is what happens with Caleb Farley.
Speaker 1: With Davin Collins. The tape is awesome. The tape is awesome.
Speaker 1: It means a physical specimen. Oh my gosh, it jumps
Speaker 1: out at you a little bit. Concerns of how much
Speaker 1: he weighed in at There were rumors that he waited
Speaker 1: at two seventy, although I think he's playing weights about
Speaker 1: two sixty says two fifty nine was the last thing
Speaker 1: that you had, which, by the way, if it was
Speaker 1: two fifty nine, it would be the second heaviest or
Speaker 1: it would be the heaviest linebacker in the class. Some
Speaker 1: teams were working him out as a defensive end and
Speaker 1: he could probably do that. We talked about that a
Speaker 1: little bit with Parsons, about how Parsons could go maybe
Speaker 1: give you some snaps a defensive end and things like
Speaker 1: that to be on the field, And I think Zavin
Speaker 1: Collins is kind of the same thing. You know, he's
Speaker 1: all over the field. He makes plays at all levels
Speaker 1: of the field against the run. He does a good
Speaker 1: job of setting the edge when he had two. He
Speaker 1: always knows where the ball is. The other thing I
Speaker 1: would say is he could do a little bit of
Speaker 1: a better job shedding blocks, and that shows up sometimes,
Speaker 1: but you know he doesn't. He plays faster than what
Speaker 1: his weight might tell you. Don't worry about the way
Speaker 1: he covers a little bit. You know, some of those
Speaker 1: guys are two twenty five, two thirty. They are better
Speaker 1: cover guys. He's not really that. He's a middle linebacker,
Speaker 1: you know. That's what Zavian Collins is, I think. And
Speaker 1: if their teams trying to be out on the edge
Speaker 1: and things like that, I don't love that, but I
Speaker 1: feel like he's a good middle linebacker. But Arizona adding
Speaker 1: JJ Watt, you know, trying to make some plays on defense.
Speaker 1: I think they'll probably go corner at some point on
Speaker 1: day two. So that's a team. It was kind of
Speaker 1: the old Kingsbury train. He needs to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: They had made the playoffs in five years. They're so close.
Speaker 1: Last year they were so close, and then they just
Speaker 1: looked like garbage down the street. How do you look
Speaker 1: that bad? They were like the epitome of running out
Speaker 1: of steam where they were like six two and I
Speaker 1: think that what they finished like eight and eight seventy
Speaker 1: nine something like that. Yeah, Kyler was so up and down.
Speaker 1: So they've I mean they've made some really big signings,
Speaker 1: like you said, J. J. Watt. They bring in AJ Green,
Speaker 1: We'll see how that works out and if he can
Speaker 1: stay healthy. Malcolm Butler a big name, maybe not a
Speaker 1: big impact. And then you make the pick here with
Speaker 1: Zavan Collins their next elections at forty nine. And then
Speaker 1: they don't pick till one sixty. Dang. Oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: after one sixty, they don't pick until the seventh round.
Speaker 1: They have a total of four picks remaining in this draft.
Speaker 1: You know, I've got the Raiders on the clock next.
Speaker 1: You know, offensive line makes sense with Trent Brown being out,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to see who did I How did I
Speaker 1: mock to them? So Las Vegas, I mean there's they
Speaker 1: could they could use a right tackle, they could use
Speaker 1: interior defensive linemen, they could use a linebacker. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: step out on a limb and say, no matter what
Speaker 1: name you say, you're gonna be wrong. Because remember when
Speaker 1: I said I was looking back to the old draft.
Speaker 1: The Raiders don't give a damn what anybody thinks. Like
Speaker 1: may their picks are so consistently out there, whether it's
Speaker 1: Cleveland Farrell, whether it's taking Rugs first among all of
Speaker 1: the receivers last year. Can I make a weird prediction then? Sure,
Speaker 1: Like just a guy that's out there that is the
Speaker 1: fastest of his his position group, We're going to do
Speaker 1: the fast guy go yeah, pretty much? Okay, Samuel Cosme Texas,
Speaker 1: Can I give you one? Mayo used to do a
Speaker 1: Notre Dame game is on NBC. Sure it did, leam Meikeenberg, Oh, hello,
Speaker 1: Jeremiah's play him at safety, play him wherever you want. Goodness,
Speaker 1: that name's just not out there enough for me, Like
Speaker 1: I play him at lineback. That's a great point they
Speaker 1: need that. They drafted Colton Miller fifteenth a few years
Speaker 1: ago and it worked out. They just extended him. But again,
Speaker 1: like people were talking about him as a fourth round
Speaker 1: pick and he went fifteenth overall, Like Mayok and Gruden
Speaker 1: do whatever the hell they want. I could see Quitty
Speaker 1: pay here too, I could see Barmore. I could see
Speaker 1: basically we're into the range now where like draft quitty
Speaker 1: pay now. It was always it was ten that bothered me.
Speaker 1: I don't want j ok to fall to twenty or
Speaker 1: to nineteen. He's going there. If he gets there, I
Speaker 1: don't want him to fall the nineteen. So come on, okay,
Speaker 1: come on, let's play a little game here. Let's guess.
Speaker 1: I swear I haven't seen anything. So I haven't seen
Speaker 1: anything either. Pick in. I think it is for he's
Speaker 1: gonna cause me and cause me. I'm gonna say I'm
Speaker 1: gonna sell Jay now because I like Kyle's logic of
Speaker 1: not wanting him in Washington much appreciate you. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say quitty pay okay, from Michigan, I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 1: Like he's got the best athleticism of any edge. Have
Speaker 1: we had a true take it back, take it back,
Speaker 1: take it back? I mean they didn't sign Lee Collins.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Christian Barmore okay, and we'll do it
Speaker 1: for water. Okay, you said three different Oh if one
Speaker 1: of us winner buys oh wait, winner gets bought a patch.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah a j Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Barmore. So, I mean it's funny out
Speaker 1: of all of those three picks, guess what, they're all
Speaker 1: huge programs, they're all very athletic players, and they're all
Speaker 1: not necessarily what we would take here seventeen. So if
Speaker 1: one of us gets this right, our logic is spot
Speaker 1: on cosmic. Just say this. I mean, cosmi is not
Speaker 1: traditionally thought of in this road. I think I would.
Speaker 1: I think I would like any of those picks. I
Speaker 1: don't dislike them at all, but we wouldn't actually make
Speaker 1: that pick other than Jay Okay, I think you would
Speaker 1: take Jay Okay here. Yeah, I was gonna say, maybe
Speaker 1: we feel just fine taking Jay Okay. That's early on
Speaker 1: cosmy for me. But I'm a jerk. So when you're
Speaker 1: all like again, Mike Mayock, none of these teams care
Speaker 1: what we think, but he especially doesn't care. He does not.
Speaker 1: That's what you get when you sign a ten years. Also,
Speaker 1: Christians Aerisau is still on the table, by the ways,
Speaker 1: and I think that's a name because I just look
Speaker 1: at their offensive line and given Derek Carr some time
Speaker 1: to throw the football was a problem at times last year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they did it. The last five years they did it.
Speaker 1: What they just they they did exactly what they're gonna do.
Speaker 1: They're just they're you're gonna be surprised by the name.
Speaker 1: Should I leave it for you? Yeah? Leave it? I
Speaker 1: mean you go ahead and say it for it. So
Speaker 1: I don't know, I haven't see. We were on the
Speaker 1: right track. We were on the right track in terms
Speaker 1: of like off the beaten path, offensive tackles, a good call.
Speaker 1: It's Alex. It's Alex Leatherwood out of Alabama. Classic Raiders.
Speaker 1: It was between Cosmi and Leatherwood for me, and I
Speaker 1: picked Cosmi because he was faster. That's man, Classic Raiders.
Speaker 1: That is such a Classic Raiders. Move good, this gracious.
Speaker 1: So Alex Leatherwood goes seventeenth overall to the Las Vegas Raiders. Oh, man, David,
Speaker 1: that's another day two dream that that was a dream,
Speaker 1: But it was. It was a lot like dream. It
Speaker 1: was a lot like Kyle Pitts in the sense that
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, it's not really gonna fall
Speaker 1: to forty four. Probably not, but it was fun to
Speaker 1: dream about. A lot of people gave me some flak
Speaker 1: on Twitter and on our panelist of analysis or analysts
Speaker 1: that actually, whenever I selected Alex Leatherwood at thirty two
Speaker 1: for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Thirty two was a little low.
Speaker 1: How about that? Yeah, I mean, look here the leatherwoods.
Speaker 1: After I try to trade that to Dallas, the promises there.
Speaker 1: It's yet garter at tackles. What teams are going have
Speaker 1: to figure out And he's played both to me, And
Speaker 1: he was a left tackle junior and senior year and
Speaker 1: he held up nicely left tackle to me, do you
Speaker 1: have a few issues with flexibility? You have a few
Speaker 1: issues with some being undisciplined at times, latent games, things
Speaker 1: like that, getting a penalty here and there. But he
Speaker 1: is so projectable that I mean like he is going
Speaker 1: to be a way better player in the pros. It
Speaker 1: feels like I just think he's a maaller man. I
Speaker 1: like him a lot. Play him wherever the hell you
Speaker 1: want to. I think he's nasty. He's gonna pancake people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like's not. He's not the most like elite athletic prospect,
Speaker 1: which is why we were all thinking of him in
Speaker 1: the late twenties to early forties. But I like, I
Speaker 1: feel like he can show up and start and play
Speaker 1: well right now, I'll be surprised if he does well.
Speaker 1: He was the what was it, the Outland Trophy winner,
Speaker 1: I mean, he was one of the best linemen in
Speaker 1: college football, and then at the Senior Bowl. I mean
Speaker 1: one of the notes that I wrote down was Matt
Speaker 1: Rule fell in love with his anticipating the cadence. You
Speaker 1: talk about the top SEC blocker and all the American
Speaker 1: Outland Trophy winner. I mean, this is as decorated of
Speaker 1: alignment as we have in the draft. Not to mention
Speaker 1: he I mean players or excuse me, coaches in the
Speaker 1: NFL already we're talking about and raving about his ability
Speaker 1: to anticipate the snap. Honestly, he reminds me a lot
Speaker 1: of Zack Martin into which is funny because we were
Speaker 1: talking about him going much later, and Zack Martin was
Speaker 1: obviously somebody we talked about high a lot. But yeah,
Speaker 1: he just he just does the job and is good
Speaker 1: at it. And like clearly Zach Martin showed us this
Speaker 1: year he can play tackle in the NFL. If you
Speaker 1: think what the Raiders too, they want to run the ball.
Speaker 1: You know, they won't get the ball to Josh Jacobs.
Speaker 1: They want to play that way. I just thincond they're
Speaker 1: gonna need to get a back up tight in now
Speaker 1: that Witten retired. I love, yeah, Witten in his like
Speaker 1: eight nine catches or what however many it was, So
Speaker 1: I just love sorry, kay, I just love that the
Speaker 1: Raiders don't give a damn. They really are so funny.
Speaker 1: Just go back and look through their picks, and it's
Speaker 1: the variance from what the media thought to what the
Speaker 1: Raiders did is outstanding. Yeah. Yeah, on social media, it's
Speaker 1: going around as the last the Las Vegas Reachers instead
Speaker 1: of the Raiders. I mean, but you can make that
Speaker 1: argument interesting. He is a he's very he's going to
Speaker 1: be solid. I mean it's like, that's that's what you have, right.
Speaker 1: I thought it was weird when they drafted Rugs first
Speaker 1: before Judy and Lamb, and they've done a few other
Speaker 1: weird things. But I don't mind this pick at all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they I mean they have kind of your normal allotment
Speaker 1: of picks. It's not like they have a big break
Speaker 1: or an extra abundance of picks. They go from seventeen
Speaker 1: to forty eight, seventy nine, and eighty, so they go
Speaker 1: back to back in the third round with a couple
Speaker 1: of selections. So I don't think this is it is
Speaker 1: a reach, but I don't think it's as big of
Speaker 1: a reach as what we've seen from Las Vegas in
Speaker 1: the past, if that makes sense. We got the fighting
Speaker 1: Ray Finkles on the clock here with the Dolphins at eighteen.
Speaker 1: They took Jalen Waddle at six. We had him taking
Speaker 1: Quitty pay track. I'm gonna and I'm gonna say the
Speaker 1: same thing I said on Monday, which is like, it's
Speaker 1: insane to me that we're at pick eighteen and edge.
Speaker 1: Could this be the spot? I think it is the spot,
Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips or would they go ot with Christian Daresaul? Look,
Speaker 1: they're right at the buzzer Katie coming in. Fun is
Speaker 1: that if you get all of the joy of getting
Speaker 1: drafted and no, and you're already in the city where
Speaker 1: you're gonna play, it's true. Yeah, sticking home into Miami, Phillips,
Speaker 1: unless you hate where you live. Yeah, exactly, next time
Speaker 1: I meet somebody who hates Miami will be the first time.
Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips, he's going there a couple of weeks for
Speaker 1: the first time. Awesome, you know after the OILARI you know,
Speaker 1: knee thing, which how many interested to see how far
Speaker 1: he slides as well. Um Jalen Phillips was the next
Speaker 1: best edge and one of two first round graded defensive
Speaker 1: ents for me in this year's draft. Freaky athletic, all
Speaker 1: the skill set you want, it's all about the injury history,
Speaker 1: concussions as see. That's why I'm surprised he's the first
Speaker 1: edge off the board here because you could have gone
Speaker 1: Quinny pay, you could have gone Asiz Ojalari, you could
Speaker 1: have gone maybe at Joseph Acai, even his teammate. Look
Speaker 1: at Gregory Rousseau. I know a lot of people are
Speaker 1: very low on Gregory Rousseau, but entering this draft process,
Speaker 1: he was one of the guys that was thought up there.
Speaker 1: He's had a wild, wild story here, you know, freaky athletic,
Speaker 1: all the skill set you want for the position, has
Speaker 1: an idea of how to play the game. You see
Speaker 1: counter moves, you see pass rush moves with Jalen Phillips,
Speaker 1: long arms, you know, but you gotta think twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: he broke his wrists. He's hit by a car while
Speaker 1: he was on a moped. It's kind of shocking, you know,
Speaker 1: quit football. That he transferred to Miami in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: He had the concussion issues back at UCLA that he
Speaker 1: transferred to Miami in twenty twenty. Fifteen and a half
Speaker 1: tackles for a loss and eight sacks last year in
Speaker 1: a shortened twenty twenty, but just one full season of
Speaker 1: college football in his ledger. And that's you know, two
Speaker 1: partial seasons as a freshman and sophomore, but that one
Speaker 1: full year last year. But man, the way he plays
Speaker 1: the position is really awesome. That's what you want. You
Speaker 1: want guys who know how to get an offensive tackle
Speaker 1: off balance and things like that. You know, he can
Speaker 1: charge up field, he can work in a spin move,
Speaker 1: he can swim inside, all that type of stuff. And
Speaker 1: I think that the question draw about the injury thing
Speaker 1: you think about him, you start talking about guys who've
Speaker 1: had like concussion issues. This guy could go make music professionally. Um,
Speaker 1: he's a big music producer. His grandfather's the dean of
Speaker 1: music at Lynn University, And like Jalen Phillips, plays multiple instruments.
Speaker 1: And there's part of me that goes, man, if I've
Speaker 1: had concussion issues and all that stuff, I might just
Speaker 1: go make money with music. But tells you he just
Speaker 1: gonna make more money playing football. Now. I like to
Speaker 1: pick for Miami because they've got a lot of picks,
Speaker 1: you know, this year, So I think it's it's a
Speaker 1: worthy risk because he's a really good player. I'll be
Speaker 1: very I think I will admit that this is purely
Speaker 1: PTSD from Taco. But man, I'm I'm so scared of
Speaker 1: ed dreshers unless I mean, I just need I need
Speaker 1: to see that, I need to I don't want to
Speaker 1: have to ask any questions. And the thing that sucks
Speaker 1: about that is if I'm not asking any questions, then
Speaker 1: you're Chase Young and you're going number two overall. Are
Speaker 1: you scared of edge rushers or are you scared of
Speaker 1: first round edge rushers? No, I'm honestly, I'm scared of
Speaker 1: all edge rushers because good edge rushers go in the
Speaker 1: top fifty, like it's hard to find those guys further
Speaker 1: down the board. But then, yeah, it's such a projection.
Speaker 1: It's such a projection, and it just scares the Bejesus
Speaker 1: out of me. And also what scares the Bejesus out
Speaker 1: of me is the fact that Jeremiah USA Cormoa is
Speaker 1: available and on the board. As Washington takes on stage.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine they would pass on him. So I
Speaker 1: mean that brings me to the question is who are
Speaker 1: your top rated guys on the board right now? I
Speaker 1: know Jak's up there, Aziz Ojulari's there. We could very
Speaker 1: well see a nice little run of edge rushers here.
Speaker 1: So maybe a couple of corners fall, maybe that defensive
Speaker 1: tackle class falls, and then the Cowboys maybe start getting
Speaker 1: on the phone here to talk about going back up
Speaker 1: and getting a starting day one corner. Everybody expects Washington
Speaker 1: to draft defense, and if I had to guess, it
Speaker 1: will be ja okay, But I don't like that. There's
Speaker 1: not a lot of There's not an outside of scary
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin, there's not a ton of like receiver talent.
Speaker 1: Yeah you like any I mean Rashod Bateman's hanging around?
Speaker 1: Is this early for Kadarius Tony that would be scary.
Speaker 1: You're getting in that range? Were those you know, receivers
Speaker 1: going to come on board. My three top graded players
Speaker 1: right now Jeremiah Usu Kormoa, then Christian Deisol and then
Speaker 1: after that. You know, I've got a bump of Azizo
Speaker 1: Jilari because of the knee thing, and I've got a bump,
Speaker 1: you know, Caleb Farley. Otherwise those guys would be out there.
Speaker 1: But then it's starting to get into like Christian Barrymore
Speaker 1: and they can't draft Quitty pay right, Like where would
Speaker 1: he even play? Well? I mean four of their last
Speaker 1: first round picks have been defensively, and they're all still
Speaker 1: with the day they got the nastiest front in football, Like, seriously,
Speaker 1: where would Quitty pay play? Maybe they just feel good
Speaker 1: about drafting defensive the one time go wrong, the one
Speaker 1: time they didn't draft the defensive lineman in the first
Speaker 1: round and the last five drafts, guess who it was,
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins. He's not even with the team anymore. So
Speaker 1: maybe they just feel better about the defensive lineman. Who's
Speaker 1: the next tackle outside of Darisaulus? Do you think it's
Speaker 1: caused me? Probably me Ats Eichenberg, Tevin Jenkins, Walker Little.
Speaker 1: I think Little is a little bit more of a
Speaker 1: faller in this draft just because of his injury history.
Speaker 1: But I mean there's a lot of tackles still there
Speaker 1: that feels like something that they should do at some point.
Speaker 1: But you know, linebacker, we've been talking linebacker, Will Suit Kormoa,
Speaker 1: Nick Bolden, you know, it seems like a little early
Speaker 1: for him, and maybe you know, Jaman Davis has been
Speaker 1: getting a lot of you know, top twenty five buzz
Speaker 1: and maybe jam And Davis, the linebacker from from Kentucky
Speaker 1: is someone who could be in the mix. So you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of options. But it feels,
Speaker 1: you know, like we're going defense their offensive tackle for
Speaker 1: the Washington football team. No, that makes it really a
Speaker 1: lot of sense. And we're gonna go to a tweet
Speaker 1: here in a couple of seconds, not right now, Matt,
Speaker 1: so let's hold on to it. After this Washington pick,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to a tweet about the Cowboys odds
Speaker 1: of maybe getting back in to the top twenty is.
Speaker 1: Of course that's gonna start coming into the conversation. Caleb Farley.
Speaker 1: I mean, we talked with Dame Bugler kind of off
Speaker 1: air prior to things happening. Is Caleb Farley in that
Speaker 1: conversation with Dallas. Here's what Washington has to say with
Speaker 1: the nineteenth overall pick. The Washington football team goes on
Speaker 1: the board and they will select Jamon Davis, linebacker out
Speaker 1: of Kentucky. Goodness that's a good pick. Yeah, good pick.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, he was gonna go. I mean something
Speaker 1: I would take with Coriboa. There, I feel like it's
Speaker 1: not that's just me, Jamon Davis. One solid year of production,
Speaker 1: there's your big question. One year of production. He can
Speaker 1: play everywere he played Mike, he can play Will. Is
Speaker 1: he strong enough to set the edge? You know it's strong.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he can kind of do it all.
Speaker 1: And you know, only eleven of one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: tackle attempts, only eleven of them were missed. So he's
Speaker 1: hitting one, he's tackling, he's finishing the job. I was
Speaker 1: about to say something about how relieved I am that
Speaker 1: Jay Okay isn't in Washington. I don't feel much better
Speaker 1: about this. Well, like you know who's on the clock now.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, oh no, oh no New York.
Speaker 1: No No. That's a TikTok reference for all those out
Speaker 1: there listening. Okaya, tell me, tell me a little bit more,
Speaker 1: tell me a little bit more about jam and Davis.
Speaker 1: This guy one, I don't have to run forty four
Speaker 1: laps around local high school, so that's good. So my
Speaker 1: running bet is not necessarily anywhere there. I mean you
Speaker 1: talked about a kt already really took advantage of his
Speaker 1: only year as a starter, one of only four SEC
Speaker 1: players to average double digit tackles per game. And I
Speaker 1: mean out of all of the defensive players you see
Speaker 1: in the SEC, he's one of those guys that he
Speaker 1: sticks out on tape. He's one of the late risers
Speaker 1: in the draft class who wasn't one of the initial
Speaker 1: go to linebackers. But he's still somebody that of course.
Speaker 1: I mean, he worked his way into the first round somehow.
Speaker 1: Running hit guy. You know, he's not the He's not
Speaker 1: your Zavn Collins. Take on blocks, get the guy off,
Speaker 1: go get him. He is your running hit guy. I
Speaker 1: want to see him cover a little bit more. He
Speaker 1: certainly can. Though five interceptions. Zough was able to get
Speaker 1: his hand on the ball a little bit as well.
Speaker 1: He just have to go one year, you know what happened. Now,
Speaker 1: they did play a standard four to five like most
Speaker 1: DEFENSI are doing, but he was kind of in the middle.
Speaker 1: There's inside. I think it's kind of more of a
Speaker 1: fit for a three four type of team. On the inside.
Speaker 1: To me, it's kind of being the weak side guy,
Speaker 1: if you do all, I all, I'm simplifying this. But
Speaker 1: if you tell me he's a running hit player, what
Speaker 1: better front to be behind and gonna have space for days?
Speaker 1: And I think that's the idea with that pick man,
Speaker 1: and I like a get away I said about missing tackles.
Speaker 1: Just eleven miss tackles on one hundred and fifty tackle attempts.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's a crazy number of like, it's
Speaker 1: a crazy success rate. Also, not to mention he's got
Speaker 1: some two just crazy speed. Look at his testing. I
Speaker 1: mean he was one of the quickest linebackers of four
Speaker 1: or four seven forty. His split was the best in
Speaker 1: the linebacker class one five three on his split, his
Speaker 1: vertical was great, his broad jump was fantastic, one of
Speaker 1: the best in the class as well. So I mean, positionalwise,
Speaker 1: he's one of the best, more athletic linebackers that you're
Speaker 1: going to see. And if he can finish a tackle
Speaker 1: in the NFL, he's going to be a problem, especially behind.
Speaker 1: Like you said, Dave upfront like that. Let's take a
Speaker 1: look at the tweet that I alluded to a couple
Speaker 1: of moments ago, and this is coming from Matt White.
Speaker 1: On Twitter, he tagged all three of Actually sorry, Katie,
Speaker 1: he tagged the Ron post It's fine. What are the
Speaker 1: odds that Dallas packages some picks to come up and
Speaker 1: get Greg Newsome? What would it take to get into
Speaker 1: the early twenties? I know, Katie, you were hot on
Speaker 1: the trade charts a little bit ago. Is there a
Speaker 1: chance that the Cowboys maybe look at Greg Newsom? I
Speaker 1: want to throw Caleb Varley's name in there because I
Speaker 1: know he's on the board. Is there a chance that
Speaker 1: they go that direction and maybe try and sneak back
Speaker 1: in here? Because now we are in the twenty before
Speaker 1: to the math, they're can we talk about the player
Speaker 1: for a minute? You're moving up for in Newsom? Sure?
Speaker 1: Because Newsom, the tape don't lie good in coverage. Three
Speaker 1: straight years of missing time and your season ending with
Speaker 1: you not on the field because he get hurt three
Speaker 1: season that a couple weeks ago. Yeah, and the length
Speaker 1: is not great either. I mean his length is closer
Speaker 1: from winkspan standpoint. All that stuff is closer to guys
Speaker 1: like Elijah Molden and Aaron Robinson from Central Florida. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's not talking about the length of these guys like
Speaker 1: Horn and Certan, like would they want that? I like Newsom,
Speaker 1: I think he could play on the outside, but you're
Speaker 1: giving up some length and I don't know what the
Speaker 1: thresholds are for dan Quinn. Feels to me like dan
Speaker 1: Quinn would be a guy, which, knowing from his track
Speaker 1: record here long guys and Newsom is not that a
Speaker 1: good corner. But he's not a longer guy. It made
Speaker 1: the rounds on Twitter a little bit yesterday, but I
Speaker 1: know they at least have some interest in Elijah Molden
Speaker 1: and that feels like a dan Coin effect to me,
Speaker 1: because I don't think they would have looked at him
Speaker 1: last year. They have interested in him as a safety.
Speaker 1: You're good, that's a really good point. Necessarily a corner
Speaker 1: even still like they've avoided guys with those measurables. But
Speaker 1: you're right, that is a really good point that it
Speaker 1: would probably be at a different position. So if you
Speaker 1: put forty four and seventy five together from a from
Speaker 1: a trade chart standpoint, that gets you up to in
Speaker 1: between twenty seven and twenty eight. So if you want
Speaker 1: to play, you know, we've seen Baltimore has a pick
Speaker 1: at twenty seven and thirty one. Maybe maybe Baltimore would
Speaker 1: play ball with seven. That question said early twenties. So
Speaker 1: what you're telling me is that's not enough to get
Speaker 1: you into the early twenties. I mean, if you want
Speaker 1: to give up another pick to get up there, and
Speaker 1: I'm not saying, I'm not saying I know, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think you would. You would be fine getting into the
Speaker 1: late twenties at that point. Forty four and seventy five
Speaker 1: we get you to the late twenty yeah, and you
Speaker 1: have eighty four and ninety nine here to work with.
Speaker 1: Does this team like Trevan Merrick from TCU the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: That's that's a target worth making a jump for. I
Speaker 1: could see that as a general rule. I hate I
Speaker 1: hate it. Don't make me get rid of forty four
Speaker 1: and seventy five. I'm with you. Let me pick some players.
Speaker 1: I think they'll be there too. That's the thing that
Speaker 1: was so fun about that mock draft exercise that we've
Speaker 1: done Monday and Tuesday. It's just the realization that there's
Speaker 1: good players there. Giants at twenty. They got Kenny Golladay,
Speaker 1: they got sick one Barkley coming back. If you can
Speaker 1: see even though a pick hasn't been fully announced. Think
Speaker 1: offensive weapon here. If you tell me, I'm telling you
Speaker 1: that I know what the picture I know. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you if you're telling me, it's gonna be Cadarius Tony.
Speaker 1: And I'm not even looking. I'm just guessing. But that's scary.
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you that. Dave. You sure had a
Speaker 1: wordream in your eye. I always have a gleam in
Speaker 1: my eye. That's a decent point, man. You always have
Speaker 1: that little extra sparkle, mister kat Jeremiah wes Cormo. Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean, I just this is Dave made me feel
Speaker 1: like really scared after just saying no, yeah, no, Well
Speaker 1: now they're on the climb. Well, I would like to
Speaker 1: welcome DeVante Smith to the division, and I would like
Speaker 1: to welcome another guy, and I will tell them a minute.
Speaker 1: Why why are you ahead of everybody? Come on the
Speaker 1: Internet's ahead of TV? Internet stop and they don't welcome
Speaker 1: to the drasticulous Okay, I'll do it. You got the
Speaker 1: commissioners walking up to the podium with the twentieth pick
Speaker 1: and round one of the twenty twenty one NFL Draft
Speaker 1: radio in front of Cleveland, the home of Albert Bell,
Speaker 1: there is, damn it. The Giants take Cadarius Tony from er.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Tony doesn't have to work out right,
Speaker 1: it's going down for real, man, You know Cadarius Tony's
Speaker 1: really good. Do you need to give you the negatives
Speaker 1: on Cadarius Tony? Does that make you feel Make me
Speaker 1: feel better? Because because there are some things about him
Speaker 1: that I think are interesting. Now here's what sucks. Seventy
Speaker 1: catches and ten touchdowns in twenty twenty, lines up in
Speaker 1: the slots and comes in the backfield. It's got the
Speaker 1: extra gear to separate. We all seen the tape. The
Speaker 1: thing that's interesting is Florida kind of had to go
Speaker 1: out of their way to manufacture things for him. And
Speaker 1: I don't think that's because of Kyle Trask. He just
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of contested catches. And I think
Speaker 1: it's an unproven thing. So if you can keep a
Speaker 1: guy close to him, and that's hard thing to do,
Speaker 1: then you can kind of slow him down a little bit.
Speaker 1: But he which finds a way to get open, and
Speaker 1: they would use him in motion and use him in
Speaker 1: a multitude of ways to get him the ball. So
Speaker 1: tough runner when he's got the ball in his hand.
Speaker 1: He's elusive, dude. I read a stat the other day.
Speaker 1: He's good. Man. This guy, this guy forced like eighty
Speaker 1: eight Misstackles on one hundred and eighty eight career, touches
Speaker 1: like a third of the time he touches the ball,
Speaker 1: he makes the first person miss. That's impressive. It's it's terrifying,
Speaker 1: and that's I mean, I think this is a classic.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking too much about it because they wear the
Speaker 1: same uniform, and I know Percy Harvin didn't have the
Speaker 1: most amazing NFL career, but that, like the elusiveness and
Speaker 1: just and the explosive speed, just reminds me of Harvin
Speaker 1: in the sense of, like, find a way to get
Speaker 1: him the ball even if he's not the most impressive
Speaker 1: route runner, and good things will probably happen. I've been
Speaker 1: very open about this division with a healthy Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: being the Cowboys to lose because to me, Ryan Fitzpatrick
Speaker 1: doesn't do a lot for me. Yeah, with with Washington
Speaker 1: and let's Jalen Hurtson too much for him. For Philly,
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is added one back. Daniel Jones isn't good.
Speaker 1: Say it, He's not good. I don't care. I know,
Speaker 1: I tend to agree he fumbles, but what does he
Speaker 1: almost as much as WinCE did when is he had
Speaker 1: good wide receivers as a whole. Now he's got a
Speaker 1: pretty good unit with with Kenny Galladay and and Emony
Speaker 1: grow Like this, their offense is suddenly way more dangerous.
Speaker 1: It looks a lot scarier than it did a month
Speaker 1: and a half ago. But yeah, I mean, se Quon
Speaker 1: wasn't even there last year. I get it. And Andrew
Speaker 1: Thomas might develop into a better player than he was
Speaker 1: as a rookie. Tony Slayton. The other name I was
Speaker 1: forgetting there is Sterling Shepherd. He's still there. Yeah, he's been.
Speaker 1: He's been there for a thousand years, which is funny.
Speaker 1: We covered his draft. Yeah, um, how does that make
Speaker 1: you feel? Oh dude, I'm I feel ancient. I feel
Speaker 1: like a dinosaur. All these two thousands players getting drafted. Um.
Speaker 1: I mean, if if Daniel Jones can't make it work
Speaker 1: with what's around him at this point, then will like
Speaker 1: then he's not the guy. And this will be his
Speaker 1: third season, which is fitting because that's when you had
Speaker 1: to decide on an option and all that other fun stuff.
Speaker 1: I'll try it, that's right, right, he's entering his third season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just think if he was the guy, you would
Speaker 1: have seen more of it by now. Yeah. But but
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a lot to work with from here
Speaker 1: on out. No, no offense to Darius Slayton Gala Day
Speaker 1: and Tony changes things. Oh sure, and so don't forget
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley Manquon back. Yeah. Now, their defensive line still
Speaker 1: has some pretty big issues. Kind of thought they could
Speaker 1: maybe well maybe you look there, so I know we
Speaker 1: here on a Cowboys podcast or not about to criticize
Speaker 1: somebody else's defense. I know, very good point. I would
Speaker 1: never I would never do that. I'm looking at some
Speaker 1: of these players that are still on the board heading
Speaker 1: into this twenty first pick for Indianapolis. I mean, we
Speaker 1: we talked about Jaylen Phillips here, so maybe Ed Rusher
Speaker 1: for the Colts. I think that's probably one of their
Speaker 1: glaring needs. Quit Pay, maybe Quitty pay as he's Alari
Speaker 1: that need for Oilari's very nob it's I mean, it's
Speaker 1: taken a lot out of everybody, at least at this point.
Speaker 1: I mean India also go with a Rushot Bateman. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had a little receiver help there. I know they
Speaker 1: took Michael Pitt's last year, or excuse me, Michael Pittman
Speaker 1: last year. I'm stealing. Sorry, I'm I'm stealing this point
Speaker 1: straight off of Twitter. But something that we maybe overlooked
Speaker 1: Kat Kyle, Oh god, no, it's it's a good thing
Speaker 1: in my opinion. Okay, who's calling the place for the Giants?
Speaker 1: Jayson Jay? Which you know, Jason Garrett Jay Jay. Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett caught a lot of flak in Dallas for not
Speaker 1: being creative or forward thinking enough with his offense and
Speaker 1: guess what he's gonna do. Hey, we'll see, We'll see.
Speaker 1: But try no excuses because there's plenty of talent for
Speaker 1: him to work with. Colts could do a lot of
Speaker 1: things and Ballard their GM. Chris Ballard is one of
Speaker 1: my favorite personnel people in the league. I think he's
Speaker 1: awesome at drafting players could use offensive lineman help. Uh there,
Speaker 1: left tackle Costanzo retired, so yet that could go edge.
Speaker 1: Though we talked about the edge names were probably to
Speaker 1: early in the game to start talking about tied into
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. That stuff will probably come around tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Darisaw on the board, man, I like that. I'm just
Speaker 1: laughing because now that you said that, we're gonna watch
Speaker 1: fryar Muth come off the board at like twenty three.
Speaker 1: Don't you if you if you're the coaches, don't you
Speaker 1: have to protect Carson Wentz though, I mean, that's why
Speaker 1: you didn't take any chances and you lost Costanzo. It
Speaker 1: just makes I mean, that seems too logical. You think
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz finds it now that he's back with Frank
Speaker 1: Frank che I don't know if he'll find it in
Speaker 1: the sense of like just magically becoming a great quarterback again,
Speaker 1: but I think he'll be better than he was last year.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's man, this is where the two someone's
Speaker 1: going to take a chance on Caleb Farley. That's what
Speaker 1: I keep thinking. And I wouldn't be upset if the
Speaker 1: Cowboys wanted to maybe do that on their own, right.
Speaker 1: I really wouldn't if they wanted to trade back in
Speaker 1: and take Caleb Farley, I'm not I'd be over the moment. Man.
Speaker 1: I'm not moving for a hurt guy. I would say
Speaker 1: the same thing about I'm not moving for hurt guy.
Speaker 1: Hurt guy yeah, you know, it's a it's a I'm emphasizing,
Speaker 1: oh hurt, guy, hurt. The list of things that are
Speaker 1: wrong with Caleb Farley is not short, So I will
Speaker 1: say we did not have that same kind of luck
Speaker 1: with the twelfth overall pick. And guess what Michael Parsons
Speaker 1: is on the phone of us? Is we welcome in
Speaker 1: the newest Dallas Cowboy? Micah Parsons, linebacker out of Penn State. Mica.
Speaker 1: First off, congratulations, it's a crazy night for you. What's
Speaker 1: going through your mind right now? Micah? Are you there?
Speaker 1: Do we have Micah? Do we have Mica on the phone.
Speaker 1: It is a crazy night. It's got a lot going on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the guy's busy. He's gotta make a move, gotta go
Speaker 1: from Pa to Dallas. Mike, are you there? We're just
Speaker 1: we're just on in MICA's pocket right now. He's like
Speaker 1: hugging people and saying hi, as he should a bunch
Speaker 1: of interviews after I got picked. But's well, this is fun, Mica,
Speaker 1: Mike are you there? Mica? Do you think the Cowboys
Speaker 1: should trade back in and get you some defensive teammates?
Speaker 1: I think that would be fun to ask him him
Speaker 1: here in a little bit. Jason, o Oh, Mike, are
Speaker 1: you there? MIKEA are you there? Ye? Hey, Micael, congratulations
Speaker 1: you're the newest Dallas Cowboy. We're here with the Draft show.
Speaker 1: What are you? What's going through your head right now? Good?
Speaker 1: A lot is going through my head. But now you know,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling bless I'm feeling extremely grateful, and I'm feeling
Speaker 1: ecstatic to be a part of the Cowboys. Hey, Mica, congrats. Man.
Speaker 1: I'm curious. I mean, you just said it, but you know,
Speaker 1: and people are talking about it on Twitter going all
Speaker 1: the way back to December. You know, you tweeted out
Speaker 1: that you wanted to be here? What what was it
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys? What was it about Dallas that that
Speaker 1: you felt that way? And I mean it's got to
Speaker 1: feel wild that something you've wanted for so long actually happened.
Speaker 1: With everything that happened in the first round. Um, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: people don't realize, like you know, I think, you know,
Speaker 1: just being in America then playing at playing for you know,
Speaker 1: the best team in America. You know, Uh, you know
Speaker 1: playing at atenc stay didn't what I did. I fell
Speaker 1: in love with it. I knew who Jay Jones is.
Speaker 1: I know what he represents. He's a serious man, once
Speaker 1: to win games. And you know, I knew what I
Speaker 1: was stepping into, and I wanted to be in blue
Speaker 1: and white again. And I said, the place where I
Speaker 1: feel like they got there are a couple of pieces
Speaker 1: away from being a really good team was the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: And you know, um, this is where I wanted to do.
Speaker 1: So we've obviously watched a lot of your tape and
Speaker 1: studied you leading up to the draft. But for all
Speaker 1: those Cowboys fans out there listening, tell us a little
Speaker 1: bit about your game. You know your demeanor on the
Speaker 1: field at linebacker, Um, you know my deman on the
Speaker 1: linebacker is, you know, play fibal will play fast and
Speaker 1: make a lot of tackles. I like to fly to
Speaker 1: the ball. I think the best thing anybody can ever
Speaker 1: do is play with effort. And when you play with effort,
Speaker 1: a lot of great things happened around the ball. So
Speaker 1: that's kind of how you're gonna get me. You're gonna
Speaker 1: get a competitor. I'm never gonna go down easy, never
Speaker 1: gonna go down sweet, and I'm gonna come in and
Speaker 1: ready to place. Now you mentioned some of those pieces
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the football. Mica, where do
Speaker 1: you feel like you're gonna fit in with this defense?
Speaker 1: Do you think there's a specific spot for you as
Speaker 1: you come in and get to get to work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I could play anywhere on the field. I
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna use my versatility earlier on, find out
Speaker 1: how they want to use me, and you know, take
Speaker 1: my opportunity and run away with it. You know, I
Speaker 1: think I'm here just based off our opportunities my whole life,
Speaker 1: and this is another great chance for me to take
Speaker 1: advantage of one kind of going off that, Mica. You know,
Speaker 1: we haven't really had a chance to talk to your
Speaker 1: new defensive coordinator, Dan Quinn, but watching your tape, you
Speaker 1: know you can't help. But notice, like you said, your
Speaker 1: versatility you can get after the quarterback. You can. You
Speaker 1: know you had a big strip sack here at at
Speaker 1: and T Stadium a couple of years ago. Have you
Speaker 1: talked to Dan Quinn about how he wants to use
Speaker 1: you or what your role could be when you get here.
Speaker 1: No yet, Like I said, I talked to the Cowboys
Speaker 1: one time. I guess that one time was the best time. Cowboy.
Speaker 1: That's how to get to work. Well, we're excited to
Speaker 1: have you here and to see you get to work. Mica. Congratulations,
Speaker 1: we will see you soon and Dallas, and hopefully sooner
Speaker 1: rather than later. We'll get to shake your hand whenever
Speaker 1: all this COVID nineteen is over. How about that? Yes, sirs,
Speaker 1: sounds of amazing. Micah Parsons on the phone, appreciate your time.
Speaker 1: And well, of course he is the newest Dallas cowboy.
Speaker 1: And you know it is intriguing and like you said,
Speaker 1: it never gets old hearing from these prospects as their
Speaker 1: dreams are realized. And like you said, his last collegiate
Speaker 1: game the Cotton Bowl against Memphis close to New Year's
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. That was his last time on a
Speaker 1: collegiate football field. Guess where it was stadium? Baby, I'm
Speaker 1: not one of those guys that cares about the new
Speaker 1: number rule. Just didn't I really think about that question.
Speaker 1: I did want to go on Twitter. It was like,
Speaker 1: you guys should ask him with that because you know
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson's eleven. Right now. I want to put the
Speaker 1: poor guy on the spot and say either you're coming,
Speaker 1: You're coming for Cedric's number or what because eleven eleven
Speaker 1: is full right now? Yeah, that is fun to think, like, okay,
Speaker 1: one is open. I believe, um two probably you're not.
Speaker 1: Come on, Greg the leg he's not giving that up.
Speaker 1: I mean my special teams versus your number one. Dude,
Speaker 1: if kickers can change numbers two days, it's ten open.
Speaker 1: I think ten's open. Yeah, I know, I'm end up open.
Speaker 1: I just I love that if he wants, I mean,
Speaker 1: he can wear whatever he wants, obviously, but that would
Speaker 1: be fun. Colts went to Quitty pay at twenty one
Speaker 1: defensive in for Michigan as we were kind of talking about, um,
Speaker 1: you know, still have dry saw the ot on the
Speaker 1: boards of a Zizos you are, I think there's gonna
Speaker 1: be an offensive tackle here for Tennessee. Right, you would
Speaker 1: have to that direction, maybe a corner, you know, I
Speaker 1: think I think Christian Barmore to Tennessee's makes a lot
Speaker 1: of sense to Barmore next to Jeffrey Simmons. I mean,
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons is so good. There's a lot there if
Speaker 1: you get a little Barmore in Simmons. Nobody watches the Titans,
Speaker 1: which is a shame because it's weird Yeah, they're just
Speaker 1: I don't know, they're new in AFC game. They get
Speaker 1: caught in a bunch in the in the box of
Speaker 1: eight or nine games at noon. The only time anybody
Speaker 1: watches the Titans is that one random Thursday night game
Speaker 1: when Derrick Henry goes for one sixty five or you know,
Speaker 1: has a ninety nine hard touchdown. But yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I think I think the pick there is I mean,
Speaker 1: they could do a multitude of things. They've got a
Speaker 1: pretty good roster. Quietly, you've got a pretty good roster.
Speaker 1: A J Brownt wide receiver. Would they want to add
Speaker 1: to that? I mean, that could be some fun. I
Speaker 1: actually heard, you know, I'm I have LSU connections. I
Speaker 1: heard some talk that they are like enamored with Terris Marshall,
Speaker 1: which again like feels early, but it's anybody's guests. Once
Speaker 1: you get into this part of the round, how these
Speaker 1: teams feel. You know, they took um who did they
Speaker 1: take last year in the first round? Kind of pull
Speaker 1: up my draft history talk about the Titans. Yeah, Isaiah Wilson,
Speaker 1: offensive tackle out of Georgia, Right, Yeah, that did not
Speaker 1: in the NFL anymore. Ye, So, I mean, and that
Speaker 1: was at twenty nine because they were coming straight off
Speaker 1: of that AFC title game birth. I mean, they're taking
Speaker 1: a while for this pick. I mean we're at fifty
Speaker 1: seconds remaining with the twenty second pick, and they're taking
Speaker 1: plenty of time. Bateman's been talked about a ton to
Speaker 1: maybe go in the first round, and you know, Darrisaw,
Speaker 1: their offensive linement is probably their biggest need. You know,
Speaker 1: would they go offensive vinement again in the first round. Hey,
Speaker 1: dry Saw is a way more solid prospect than Isaiah
Speaker 1: Wilson was last year. Um, I would have very confident.
Speaker 1: I think this entire tackle class is better than what
Speaker 1: was really last year, maybe other than maybe the top
Speaker 1: three guys I would. I think I mocked Tevin Jenkins
Speaker 1: to them. That's that's what they should That's what we did,
Speaker 1: that's what yesterday. Or well Dressau is there as well.
Speaker 1: I mean that's just easy for me. I mocked bar
Speaker 1: More to them just because the idea of Barmore and
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons is very awesome to me. But I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's like, uh, this is like this
Speaker 1: is like one of those things. Um, we kind of
Speaker 1: go anywhere here wide receiver, offensive line, DT could be
Speaker 1: a lot of anything, and they'll just go pick a
Speaker 1: running back. It's not like they have one of those there, right, Sorry,
Speaker 1: is this is this happening at the draft? We have
Speaker 1: have a little concert happening. It looks like a straight
Speaker 1: up concert. I'm gonna tell you. Though they had the
Speaker 1: Kings of Leon earlier, I don't know what what's happening now?
Speaker 1: Does look like a concert stage? The music at the
Speaker 1: draft tomorrow night, it's gonna be awesome. I'm just I
Speaker 1: can't say free, but it's gonna be awesome. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: just not sure. And and I no, I can't say.
Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to say. I'm trying to think of
Speaker 1: musical acts that I know that you're associated with. Oh what, well,
Speaker 1: this is a fun pick okay, Oh you guys want
Speaker 1: to know of course, Yeah, this is taken forever. What
Speaker 1: is it? I'll say it's a cornerback, Greg Newsum, No Farley?
Speaker 1: Is he? Caleb Farley? Caleb Farley? The injury risk It
Speaker 1: worked out. It worked out with Jeffrey Simmons, sure did
Speaker 1: man and the man who has of a couple weeks
Speaker 1: ago still couldn't feel his toe. Yeah, from his back surgery.
Speaker 1: You know what with like no, no shade intended towards
Speaker 1: Caleb Farley. But I'm I'm happy he's gone. I'm happy
Speaker 1: the Cowboys aren't going to have to deal with that temptation.
Speaker 1: I'm not that happy, which at it. Hey, our colleague,
Speaker 1: our colleague, Jeff Kavanaugh actually did ask Micah about his number.
Speaker 1: He said he wants eleven. So, oh, Cedric Wilson or
Speaker 1: fight it out. Mike has got that top fifteen. Pick
Speaker 1: money if you want to cut Cedric a check? What
Speaker 1: et Cedric Wilson ware in high school? I mean, not
Speaker 1: in high school. In college, I have no you know,
Speaker 1: because he can switch to a single digit number if
Speaker 1: he wanted to. Now, I kind of don't like the
Speaker 1: number rule range thing. I know. Then okay's very old man,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't know. Just get off my lawnch
Speaker 1: very organized. Cedric Wilson War one at Boise, which is
Speaker 1: open right now. This is that's that's what's gonna happen. Well, see,
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson's going to switch to the single digit. He's
Speaker 1: gonna go wear number one, and then Michael Parsons will
Speaker 1: be wearing number eleven, by the way, I believe, and
Speaker 1: Matt can't and Chris Beam in the back, who, by
Speaker 1: the way, have just done a fantastic job all the
Speaker 1: way throughout this draft process. Correct me if I'm wrong
Speaker 1: with the little l bar graphic that we have on
Speaker 1: our screen. You could go on and buy Michael Parsons
Speaker 1: jersey with that QR code right whoa is that right,
Speaker 1: Matt and the excellent promotion right there stand by stand by.
Speaker 1: Anticipation is something that I'm waiting on, is what I've
Speaker 1: been told. The the world of the QR code has
Speaker 1: changed things quite so, Like we're talking about the future
Speaker 1: and technology right now. You're it might and again we've
Speaker 1: got a firm right, that's what we can do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he said it was coming. It was very you were
Speaker 1: waiting on the anticipation of it. Basically, it was what
Speaker 1: it was. I mean right now, it's a scan code
Speaker 1: for the official draft hat. But I'm sure you could
Speaker 1: probably find your way to the jersey from that point
Speaker 1: as well at the Cowboys Pro shop. So yeah, go
Speaker 1: and check that out if you wanted to, maybe a
Speaker 1: number eleven jersey. We are taking a look at Caleb
Speaker 1: Farley and what he brings to the table now for
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. And I mean, Dave, you said it.
Speaker 1: You're not necessarily upset that he's off the board, and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys don't have to necessarily think about it. That's
Speaker 1: just me. But what outside of the injury history, what
Speaker 1: kind of player of the Titan's gonna get a Farley? No,
Speaker 1: Farley was, honestly, which is a testament to how much
Speaker 1: his injury scare me, because he was probably my favorite
Speaker 1: back when this was a two man race. He's cornerback
Speaker 1: one for me. He's impressive. Man, He's just he's an
Speaker 1: athletic marvel. He's got all the size, he's got the
Speaker 1: speed that you want you go put on his tape
Speaker 1: like he can man up with guys. I like everything
Speaker 1: that he does. Like I think he's a great player.
Speaker 1: That the problem is just that's a lot of injuries.
Speaker 1: He tores acl in twenty seventeen. He's had I believe
Speaker 1: two surgeries on his back like this has been something
Speaker 1: that has troubled him for multiple years. He played all
Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen with sciatic pain in his leg and saying,
Speaker 1: which Hey shouts out to Caleb Farley because you're a
Speaker 1: bad man, yeah, but tough guy. I'm just if he
Speaker 1: had fallen to forty four, you could, yes, especially since
Speaker 1: they didn't draft a corner in the first round. I
Speaker 1: would have been all in favor giving up resources to
Speaker 1: draft a guy who has had long term and repeated
Speaker 1: health problems. Don't like it at all, especially when you
Speaker 1: could get a guy on the back side of that defense.
Speaker 1: Javon Holland Richie Grant is still technically on the board year,
Speaker 1: I mean, and we'll have to see how the rest
Speaker 1: of the first halfway there, So we'll have to see
Speaker 1: how it plays out. But like if I told you, Okay,
Speaker 1: who's all right? Greg News, I'm still on the board,
Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph is still on the board. Eric Stokes is
Speaker 1: still on the board, Tyson Campbell's still on the board.
Speaker 1: Am I forgetting anybody big? Get my quarterback board? And
Speaker 1: Robinson still on the board. Yeah if he ebo, I
Speaker 1: know he's a little bit later on, probably like him
Speaker 1: more than wouldn't you rather just take one of those
Speaker 1: guys at forty four than trade up for that's I
Speaker 1: just trade hang up. I hate trading up. I mean
Speaker 1: in Titan, we'll see what happens if Samuel gets to
Speaker 1: twenty five. I would at least maybe make that call.
Speaker 1: I think he has, but he wouldn't fit. Yeah, do that.
Speaker 1: And this is I would make that call, Dan Quinn
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys would probably not make that call.
Speaker 1: This is where the signing of Jordan Lewis changed things
Speaker 1: a little bit. And it was I like Jordan Lewis, hayink,
Speaker 1: He's a great dude, but it was a bit of
Speaker 1: a confusing signing for me. It's not like they paid
Speaker 1: him a ton or anything, but it was a very
Speaker 1: confusing signing because that just didn't know like, Okay, they
Speaker 1: have you. You're saying you have a role for him,
Speaker 1: and there's some pretty good slot corners, you know, in
Speaker 1: this draft. I think it's purely a cover your ass signing.
Speaker 1: It's purely as like, we can't go into this draft
Speaker 1: with such a ridiculously obvious need and that's the smart
Speaker 1: thing to do. Yeah, honestly. Um. And they did the
Speaker 1: same thing with Anthony Brown, you know, last year, and
Speaker 1: they got a good pick. The Vikings pick is in again.
Speaker 1: The Vikings were at fourteen. They traded back to twenty three,
Speaker 1: which and get get three two more top one hundred
Speaker 1: picks out of it. I'm just gonna read the again.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't seen anything on Twitter. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but everybody was pegging Elijah Vera Tucker to
Speaker 1: the Vikings like they were just hammering that and they
Speaker 1: traded back and Dry Saw and Tevin Jenkins are still there. Man.
Speaker 1: It feels like offensive line, but they their defensive line
Speaker 1: needs help to what about Landed Dickerson out of Alabama?
Speaker 1: Sure like that? Or is there a defensive bar more?
Speaker 1: I think they need more of a Davis. They need
Speaker 1: more of an edge than a defensive tack. They're committed
Speaker 1: to Rife at tackle. Still Rife isn't sensing. Oh my god, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, Dang Rife is the reason the Bengals just
Speaker 1: drafted Ja March. Yes, okay, yeah, So darrisaw is my
Speaker 1: You know I've got two technically, I've got two guys
Speaker 1: first round grades. No three guys at first round grades
Speaker 1: on my board. Who Coromoa Aziz Ojilari those are my
Speaker 1: two and then Christian Darisaul. But I should I should
Speaker 1: have moved around too because of the injury thing, like
Speaker 1: I did with Farley and moved him down. You know,
Speaker 1: Ojilari could I think, and I'm obviously I don't cover
Speaker 1: the Titans. I'm just parroting talking points. But everybody in
Speaker 1: the world expects them to draft alignment offensive or defensive.
Speaker 1: So what do you like more? Maybe pairing somebody like
Speaker 1: Ojilari with Daniel Hunter or shoring up the left side
Speaker 1: of your line. Well you also brought in Dalvin Tomlinson too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: in the offseason, but you still but the talking point
Speaker 1: is that they want an edge dan Hunter. Well, and
Speaker 1: I think that's exactly what you would get with Ojilari.
Speaker 1: Right if you feel comfortable about the knee, I just
Speaker 1: think this, there's a flag on that knee right now.
Speaker 1: The flag on the knee is it's glaring. It's very glaring.
Speaker 1: And he is such a one like I like Ojilari
Speaker 1: a lot, but he is such a He's not going
Speaker 1: to be for everyone because he has a head down
Speaker 1: and go guy. He's not a nuanced pass rusher like
Speaker 1: Jalen phillips is. But you know, he showed the ability
Speaker 1: to take over games at Georgia's sometimes, so you know,
Speaker 1: Jular He's got a lot to like. I just think
Speaker 1: the value, the value on the offensive line is too
Speaker 1: good to pass away, Like you traded back and you
Speaker 1: still have two guys in dar Saw and Jenkins, Yeah,
Speaker 1: who are really good players. We talk a lot about
Speaker 1: roadmapping though, and if you wanted to go edge, you
Speaker 1: should go now. Yes, But but because the offensive tackles
Speaker 1: we feel good. For instance, at forty four, if the
Speaker 1: Cowboys wanted to go that round man Jenkins, Dylan Redunds,
Speaker 1: Walker Little what I'll say about that, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't think that highly of Kirk Cousins, and I think
Speaker 1: do what do what you would know? You watch The
Speaker 1: Green Baby a lot, love Kirk Cousins. Do what you
Speaker 1: gotta do to keep and protected, because he's only going
Speaker 1: to be as good as his offensive line in my opinion.
Speaker 1: So with the twenty third pick in the draft, they
Speaker 1: take offensive tackle Christian der Assaul out of Virginia Tech.
Speaker 1: Back to back, hokeis this is what, Oh that's a
Speaker 1: good point. Yeah, Virginia Tech show out stand up my friends.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, this is not a surprising pick to me.
Speaker 1: I don't think, No, I don't know. Get the first
Speaker 1: round grade off the board there too. Rick Spielman deserves
Speaker 1: a pat on the back for trading away and still
Speaker 1: getting this guy, getting exactly what you need, a really
Speaker 1: good player who a lot of us thought was going
Speaker 1: to go in the teens. And what did they get
Speaker 1: from the Jets? I don't even know, two extra first
Speaker 1: round picks, I mean two extra top one hundred picks. Rather,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, wow, I didn't know what they
Speaker 1: did that one. No, sorry, that's amazing good what it
Speaker 1: was at sixty three and eighty three? Um? I wrote
Speaker 1: it down and I it's sixty six and eighty six.
Speaker 1: Sixty six and eighty six, so two third round picks? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's the that's the second pick in the third round,
Speaker 1: sixty six, So you know, makes you think about that.
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's up next at twenty four. Oh, this could be fun. Now.
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of buzz on running back to
Speaker 1: which I think is ridiculous. I do too, as uh
Speaker 1: as the great Meta Kimes said, you know who's going
Speaker 1: to go here? Offensive line is a situation. I know
Speaker 1: exactly who this is going to be. That just because
Speaker 1: it fits, just because it's that kind of player. Jeremiah
Speaker 1: was Cormall, I would actually love that I think he
Speaker 1: would fit. Really, I would love that he plays like
Speaker 1: a Steeler. You know how they say play like a raven.
Speaker 1: I mean he's the same way he's oh Man hard.
Speaker 1: That's such as great and and I would personally think
Speaker 1: that would be a great fit. They could go running
Speaker 1: back offensive line, they should draft Devin Jenkins is what
Speaker 1: Devin Jenkins? Oh Tvin Jenkins a pretty good fit there.
Speaker 1: That would be if they're only as good, if they're
Speaker 1: only as good as Big Ben's protection, then I mean,
Speaker 1: even if do you think it's a reach that like
Speaker 1: they're gonna take Kyle Trask you, I'm not gonna let
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger's last year happened without getting at least one,
Speaker 1: maybe two offensive linement. That's what I'm saying about. They're
Speaker 1: they're only gonna go as far as he can take them. Um,
Speaker 1: they pick twenty four and fifty five, so you got
Speaker 1: a wild weight. That Najia Harris connection has been there
Speaker 1: for months. I hate it. I hate it and Harris,
Speaker 1: Najia Harris is a great player, but what like, who
Speaker 1: cares who you're running back? Is if he's running into
Speaker 1: the other team's defensive front, aren't They living proof of
Speaker 1: that after surviving a couple of years with Connor. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's like surviving. Yeah, he was fantastic for
Speaker 1: a minute. Lessons learned right. You would think, don't do
Speaker 1: it yet, dude, there's time to do it, and it's fine.
Speaker 1: It's better be a pretty big You draft a running
Speaker 1: back in the first round if you have nothing else,
Speaker 1: if no other glaring like, it makes sense for Buffalo.
Speaker 1: They don't have a whole lot else to worry about.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs took my guy Clyde last year as a
Speaker 1: luxury pick. That's when you do that. Yeah, this is yeah.
Speaker 1: Tevin Jenkins, we all agree, best offensive vinemen left left. Yes,
Speaker 1: the other one I like caused me too. I like
Speaker 1: Jenkins and caused me pretty close. All these guys and
Speaker 1: that's kind of how it goes with a lot of
Speaker 1: offensive vineman. Now, guys who can play guard and tackle. Um,
Speaker 1: so you know Tevin Jenkins is a guy like that.
Speaker 1: You know Jalen Mayfield, same way. You know a lot
Speaker 1: of people chase to see a guard. Is he a tackle?
Speaker 1: Could do both. Tevin Jenkins, though you feel like he
Speaker 1: fits at tackle, plays like a guard sometimes well he
Speaker 1: finishes and kind of a bulldozer. They we get the
Speaker 1: pick right now, and I'll do it with the twenty
Speaker 1: fourth pick in Round one of the twenty twenty one
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. Where are we going here? The Pittsburgh Steelers
Speaker 1: select Naja Harris, running back from Helabama. It's just further.
Speaker 1: I can't believe it. He was very emphatic. It's Nagi na,
Speaker 1: It's Naji Harris. And I think he is a wonderful player.
Speaker 1: And I think that Steelers are dumb man. They could
Speaker 1: have done so many fun things there. Well, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of more fun players in the
Speaker 1: draft than Nase Harris. Well, he was the third player
Speaker 1: on my big board, left behind Ojulari and Jay Ok.
Speaker 1: I mean, those are the two that I have in
Speaker 1: on top of, on top of Harris. So I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're going by the board, not a stretch. But
Speaker 1: you I agree with Dave. If you don't have the
Speaker 1: offensive line to block in front of him, what are
Speaker 1: you doing? You know, he's he's very fun. I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm going to regret saying that in three years. No. No,
Speaker 1: I mean, look here's the thing though, too. They did
Speaker 1: need to get a running back in there for Ben
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger as well. And you know, kind of if you
Speaker 1: want to have an example of a correlation, here would
Speaker 1: be taken Zeke Elliott because Tony Romo was maybe on
Speaker 1: his last legs, turned out to was his last legs.
Speaker 1: But you know, take a running back because that running
Speaker 1: back will help you keep the ball, help out the defense,
Speaker 1: and help the quarterback. But that offensive line has lost
Speaker 1: two starters. And that's just kind of the only way
Speaker 1: I can look at Pittsburgh situation is that their offensive
Speaker 1: line needs a lot of help. So yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. But then so hey, someone
Speaker 1: had to be the first running back selected. And I
Speaker 1: know that the world is like anti drafting or running back. Ever,
Speaker 1: I understand that's I'm not Jeff. Jeff is ridiculous, takes
Speaker 1: it too far. Naji Harris to Buffalo. I'm applauding that
Speaker 1: pick hard. I'm a big time in favor of that.
Speaker 1: I just this poor guy is gonna run into eight
Speaker 1: jerseys in the other team's color every time he touches
Speaker 1: the ball. Let's not forget this was a team who
Speaker 1: was undefeated and there was a lot of talk about
Speaker 1: them in the next nineteen seventy two Miami Dolphins until
Speaker 1: they hit a wall deep in the year. And you know,
Speaker 1: this is a guy who helps you when you do
Speaker 1: hit a wall in a season like that, a guy
Speaker 1: who can go give it to him every once in
Speaker 1: a while. He's gonna get twenty five carries a game.
Speaker 1: I just think I'd rather have somebody who can protect
Speaker 1: my geriatric forty year old quarterback who like the Steelers,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to make it he could protect him
Speaker 1: just by taking handoffs over and over and over again.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to be nice here after I killed
Speaker 1: mac Jones earlier. Maybe it don't work. Maybe it don't work.
Speaker 1: Like we got to remind ourselves that nobody knows anything
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. But that's a very
Speaker 1: good point in life for her. Juston well in life,
Speaker 1: but definitely in the draft. Yeah no, no, you're right.
Speaker 1: So after Harris is off the board here at twenty four,
Speaker 1: the Jaguars are on the clock. But we do have
Speaker 1: some cool tweets to talk about from the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: welcoming Micah Parsons to the Dallas Cowboys club. We'll start
Speaker 1: with Dak Prescott overall and Dak we aren't actually able
Speaker 1: to see the tweets in here, Matt Kent, but the
Speaker 1: tweet overall from Dak just welcoming the welcoming the newest
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboy. It was a tweet says, welcome Michael, let's
Speaker 1: get to work. So Dak Prescott pretty simple with his.
Speaker 1: We also have tweets from Jay Smith and from Zeke,
Speaker 1: but we've got We'll start with Zeke. Elliott says, don't
Speaker 1: touch me in practice, Rook. It's a pretty Zeke answer
Speaker 1: for that. Well, big ten rival reaction there, Oh that's true.
Speaker 1: Ohio State Penn State one of the most underrated college
Speaker 1: football games of the year, especially if it's a whiteout.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah. How about this one from Jalen Smith basically
Speaker 1: just saying, let's get it getting I mean getting after it.
Speaker 1: That's let's go. You think that's a gut punch for
Speaker 1: Jaylen Smith or is that just more competition for Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith maybe to try and get back to twenty eighteen
Speaker 1: for him. I don't think he's the type that would
Speaker 1: get that get that way. I think he's the type
Speaker 1: it's like, let's go, let's go to work, Okay, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean maybe it's added motivation, I guess, but he's
Speaker 1: not gonna be like but hurt about it. You know,
Speaker 1: he might not be but hurt, but it does it
Speaker 1: does impact him. I don't think it deep down in
Speaker 1: their heart of hearts. I don't think a guy ever
Speaker 1: feels good when his team uses a first round pick
Speaker 1: on his position. You think Phil Costa felt great when
Speaker 1: they drafted Travis Fredder, don't. I sure don't think McKenzie
Speaker 1: Bernadeau felt great when when they drafted Zach Martin. No,
Speaker 1: that's a little bit different. I mean, Jalen's a big
Speaker 1: time player on a big money contract. I think he's
Speaker 1: got slightly more job security. Jacksonville's up here at twenty five,
Speaker 1: and I you know, they got Trevor Lawrence. Obviously, this
Speaker 1: feels so barmore to me, so and NFA if I
Speaker 1: wanted to play you know on ZOURIK don't to go
Speaker 1: down that road maybe, but this feel is a very
Speaker 1: Christian barmore. By the way, with that last selection with
Speaker 1: Harris going off the board, that was the sixth Alabama
Speaker 1: player taken here in the first round, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: last year LSU five five players taken in the first round.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we I mean we knew Bama was gonna
Speaker 1: say we're gonna shatter that. I mean, we've both We've
Speaker 1: got Barmore still. I was gonna say once Leatherwood went
Speaker 1: in the first round, it was over. Yeah, Barmore is still.
Speaker 1: I mean, Landed Dickerson still could go. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he'll go first round, but there's still some guys there.
Speaker 1: They're a machine man. You get to twenty seven, Baltimore up.
Speaker 1: Would you give up forty four and seventy five for anything? Me? No? Them, Sure,
Speaker 1: I could absolutely see that. I think I think Mary
Speaker 1: is the name if they're going to start a target
Speaker 1: done it. That's the name if they're gonna do what.
Speaker 1: I think they feel like Barmore Really you think it's
Speaker 1: straight marrying because I feel like what they with what
Speaker 1: they've done with Kauzie, Curse, Donovan Wilson, Anthony Brown, Jordan Lewis,
Speaker 1: Trevon Diggs. They're going to add a corner at some
Speaker 1: point in this draft. But I feel like they could
Speaker 1: get by. Yeah, it's not ideal, it's not what you want,
Speaker 1: but they could get by. I think you would. I
Speaker 1: think they want to add a safety at some point,
Speaker 1: but I don't feel they feel like they have to.
Speaker 1: I don't think they would have to as well. That's
Speaker 1: what they do that we've been in this for five years.
Speaker 1: They signed three guys who can play the position. They're
Speaker 1: all on one year deals. But like in the strictest
Speaker 1: sense of the word, they've got plenty of depth. But
Speaker 1: again this and I don't think you can underrate this
Speaker 1: like I think I think they're looking They just want
Speaker 1: to revamp that thing. Obviously from a talent standpoint, but
Speaker 1: from a culture standpoint as well. It's very It's just okay,
Speaker 1: So what if I talked you into forty four and
Speaker 1: nine and what was the pick? Now it's eighty eight
Speaker 1: four eight four, So forty four and eighty four. If
Speaker 1: just going off, you know, one of the charts that
Speaker 1: kid gets you, that could get you to thirty, that
Speaker 1: would be that would be more married for me. I said,
Speaker 1: if you go up to twenty seven, that's still a
Speaker 1: little rich. I thought, I thought, working with you know,
Speaker 1: this wouldn't surprise me if Brian was here, because that's
Speaker 1: what Brian does. But like y'all know, I would learn
Speaker 1: from him. Why are y'all just trying to get rid
Speaker 1: of my picks? I would love at the very least
Speaker 1: my like, why don't you just wait and see who's
Speaker 1: still hanging around when the first round's over forty four
Speaker 1: and ninety nine, because you're gonna miss out on some players.
Speaker 1: If you would have traded up to eight, you would
Speaker 1: have gotten jac Horn. Oh, and then a forty four
Speaker 1: and ninety nine day. It will get you up to
Speaker 1: pick thirty four. So I've got ways to get you
Speaker 1: to twenty seven, to thirty and to thirty four. I'd
Speaker 1: be okay with thirty four. You sit there and wait
Speaker 1: for Richie Grant if Merrick is taking I'm glad we're
Speaker 1: having this. And that's another thing I know, I think,
Speaker 1: which I was furious when they did that because I
Speaker 1: wanted the extra pick, but Tank turned out to be
Speaker 1: pretty damn good. I like all the picks too, trust me. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm just dan, you gotta lay out some scenarios here
Speaker 1: while the Jaguars are picking. It took Tank a minute
Speaker 1: to be worth that, by the way, Like, you didn't
Speaker 1: really start getting that production out of him until it
Speaker 1: was time to pay. Yeah, because you know broke his foot. Man, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it happens. I get it. I get it. So for
Speaker 1: Jacksonville here specifically, are we thinking Balmore? I think, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: they could do a ton of stuff. I mean, running
Speaker 1: back just went. What if you put Trevor Lawrence with
Speaker 1: his old running back, Travis ET's e N. Maybe Rishad Bateman,
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get a wide receiver. Yeah, help out in Bateman.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I like Bateman. Fine. I just Oh,
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell's back in his chair, by the way, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, he is reading the card from his chair
Speaker 1: much like he did in twenty twenty. Let's all throw
Speaker 1: it back to twenty twenty, everybody, great, think about a year, right,
Speaker 1: let's not go back chairs. You did you read beforehand?
Speaker 1: Did you read what the pick was? Because with the
Speaker 1: twenty fifth selection, the Jacksonville Jaguars reunite Trevor Lawrence with
Speaker 1: mister Travis Etn from Clemson. Man just had a good
Speaker 1: feeling there. I don't know, I think you read. No.
Speaker 1: I actually saw it right after I threw it out
Speaker 1: there and saw it. Okay, I got lucky. That's good.
Speaker 1: Good for you. I mean Etten's fun and there's your
Speaker 1: game breaker. And this doesn't I mean, James Robinson, that's
Speaker 1: a good backup running back now that you have at
Speaker 1: n because at ten is he's your game breaker. Guys,
Speaker 1: sixteen of his seventy eight touchdowns came from forty four
Speaker 1: yards or more. He's fast. I know that's a wild
Speaker 1: stat with not a lot of like round numbers, but
Speaker 1: sixteen of his seventy eight touchdowns in college almost fifty
Speaker 1: yards or more and obvious, I mean, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: an adjustment to the NFL there. You're not gonna house
Speaker 1: every run from forty fifty sixty. But his his acceleration,
Speaker 1: like the speed which with with which he gets from
Speaker 1: like going to gone is so impressive. It takes him
Speaker 1: like no time. It's very roadrunner, you know. Just you know,
Speaker 1: another thing about him is he got better as a
Speaker 1: pass catcher as he went on in college. He had
Speaker 1: a rough first year, there had some drops. He got
Speaker 1: better as a pass catcher and that was an emphasis
Speaker 1: of him in the off season. Kind of talked about that.
Speaker 1: So you kind of look at the weapons now for Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: James Robinson, we talked about They added Marvin Jones from
Speaker 1: the Lions, they've got DJ Shark still who's still Okay,
Speaker 1: that's a chart. I always called him Shark. He was
Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl like two years ago. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know Leavisca Chenalt is there still there? Yeah, drafted him.
Speaker 1: They always have a lot of like Keeling Coals of
Speaker 1: the world, you know, just coming out of the woodworks
Speaker 1: and have a few good games. So, like, I don't
Speaker 1: know how good they're offen line is, but he's definitely
Speaker 1: got skill players to work with. It's pretty fun, you know,
Speaker 1: and hey, make your number one quarterback. Make him happy
Speaker 1: if again urban Meyer, I don't know. I don't dude.
Speaker 1: Thinking about the read option stuff. They're gonna be able
Speaker 1: to do it in college, and that's what urban Meyer
Speaker 1: wants to do. I like this pick a hell of
Speaker 1: a lot more than I like the Naji Harris pick,
Speaker 1: and I like Nagi Harris more than I like Travis
Speaker 1: Etnke sense. What you're saying makes it makes sense though.
Speaker 1: By the way, this is the only the fifth time
Speaker 1: since twenty eleven that at least two running backs have
Speaker 1: gone in the first round. I mean, of course, in
Speaker 1: a league where running banks you talk about shelf life.
Speaker 1: The shelf life of a running bank isn't necessarily what
Speaker 1: it used to be. Key, And I mean there's two
Speaker 1: right there going off the board in the first round,
Speaker 1: probably be the only two I probably would think. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, Javonte Williams, Michael Carter Willis, could you know
Speaker 1: he could sneak in there if somebody likes if the
Speaker 1: Bills are dead set on drafting or running back, maybe
Speaker 1: feel good about it. Yeah, Cleveland's up now and all
Speaker 1: the picks already in. The Browns have a pretty good year.
Speaker 1: They're the home team, so the crowd's gonna be going
Speaker 1: nuts there at the draft in Cleveland tonight, and it
Speaker 1: does look like a great setup. I feel like we've
Speaker 1: been saying this for every pick for like six picks now.
Speaker 1: But they just cut Sheldon Richardson. That's oh, Davian Clowney
Speaker 1: and Miles Garrett are on the outside, and you put
Speaker 1: that's what I wanted to do in the mock, and
Speaker 1: Bucky stole it from me. Bucky stole Barmore right out
Speaker 1: from under me. And I was going to draft him
Speaker 1: to Cleveland. I mocked unfortunate on Mossouri key to them,
Speaker 1: but a head Barmore gone to Tennessee already. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so Barmore would make sense. So I liked that. You
Speaker 1: want to do another water burger bet? What are we betting?
Speaker 1: It's just out there. Did anybody did anybody lose the
Speaker 1: other one? No? No, no, I got it right. Oh
Speaker 1: that was Las Vegas. So so you're who said Barmore first, man,
Speaker 1: I'll give you that. Hey, yeah, I got I got
Speaker 1: Barmore going. Okay, I'll bet you a Patty Milt. I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be j okay. Oh, either one would
Speaker 1: be fun. I think it would be ja okay. Going
Speaker 1: to Cleveland. I will say, even though that's a secondary need,
Speaker 1: he's the top player of my boy. I'll just I
Speaker 1: can hear people saying this from home. You're talking about Rousseau.
Speaker 1: Oh well, okay, if they like him, that's fine. His
Speaker 1: his testing. I know, he's only a one year deal.
Speaker 1: He doesn't bend like his He could learn how to
Speaker 1: bend over it. Connie plays inside a lot. Okay, that
Speaker 1: would be an interesting clean that's my water burger bet.
Speaker 1: Pick See, that's far verse Rousseau, at least lately, at
Speaker 1: least lately for oh, by the way, we lost Art.
Speaker 1: Oh there he goes it got back. At least lately,
Speaker 1: the Browns have done a really nice job of drafting
Speaker 1: best player available, right. I mean, they've done a really
Speaker 1: good job, and they don't have a ton of holes
Speaker 1: on their roster. They could use a corner two Newsome.
Speaker 1: This is right around the Newsom sweet spot. Greg Newsom
Speaker 1: hanging in there for sure. It isn't bad that I've
Speaker 1: let his injury history worry me. We all have our
Speaker 1: own viol there's no way around it. Because his tape
Speaker 1: is great. I still think Barmore is the best. If
Speaker 1: i'm them, I'm picking Barmore. I just that sounds so
Speaker 1: much fun to me, is pairing a guy who can
Speaker 1: do stuff like that with those at Drushers. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you really want to make that front seven nasty,
Speaker 1: just straight up downright nasty, that's what you would do.
Speaker 1: Pick is in the commissioners at the podium. But he
Speaker 1: is promoting something. You want to read it, Katie, Sure,
Speaker 1: not before not before the commissioner. We got slapped on
Speaker 1: that wrist for that. Sorry, I apologize, but you could.
Speaker 1: I mean, whenever it pops up here twenty six Pick,
Speaker 1: I mean, just the next couple of teams along the way,
Speaker 1: the Browns, Ravens, Saints, Packers, Bills, Ravens again, and then
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers rounding out the first round. So we're getting
Speaker 1: close to the end here. We've mentioned it time and
Speaker 1: time again. I want to make players here. I want
Speaker 1: to make a point when the pick is in, when
Speaker 1: we finally see who this is. Here, you go, kat Okay,
Speaker 1: with the twenty sixth pick in the first round the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one draft, the Cleveland Browns select a player
Speaker 1: and we will tell you when we're you're allowed to
Speaker 1: giving a speech here, I will tell you when I can.
Speaker 1: He's going to be in the NFL. Wow. Greg Newsom cornerback.
Speaker 1: Northwestern only played three games in twenty twenty, only had
Speaker 1: nineteen total college games. Man, you see the technique, You
Speaker 1: see the fluid hips, you see the way that he
Speaker 1: doesn't allow much separation. I mean, he's an excellent cover guy.
Speaker 1: The athleticisms there. Your question comes to this. His length
Speaker 1: is not of the guys like certain and Horn and Farley.
Speaker 1: It's his length is in the realm of Elijah Molt
Speaker 1: the corner from the slot corner from Washington. Who's some
Speaker 1: one to play at safety and then he suffered a
Speaker 1: season ending injury in each of his last three years.
Speaker 1: And also he got flagged a lot. He had a
Speaker 1: lot of penalties, and I don't think anybody talked about
Speaker 1: that leading up to the draft. I didn't hear that
Speaker 1: being talked about him, like we talked about j. C. Horne. Okay,
Speaker 1: his little grabby gets flags sometimes with Greg Newsom got
Speaker 1: flacked a lot too, but he only gave up one
Speaker 1: catch of more than ten yards last year. So like
Speaker 1: he just doesn't he's sticky. He does not allow separation.
Speaker 1: I think we just didn't talk about it as much
Speaker 1: because we didn't think he was a realistic possibility for them.
Speaker 1: But it's something that I've heard about for sure. This
Speaker 1: is his range, this is you know, we've talked about
Speaker 1: how unpredictable this draft is. This is the area gay
Speaker 1: like Greg Newsom should go. I mean, there's a lot
Speaker 1: to like with the player, and there's a good chance
Speaker 1: he outperforms his draft position because again, he does not
Speaker 1: give up separation and he just does a great job.
Speaker 1: He reads routes quickly, you know, d injuries though, like
Speaker 1: you just three years in a row thatn't finished the season,
Speaker 1: that's problem, Okay, which what I was gonna I was
Speaker 1: waiting to see if I was waiting to see if
Speaker 1: Jok would be the pick there, and he obviously wasn't.
Speaker 1: So he's the best player still around, right, Yeah, not
Speaker 1: either close. I mean, what are people concerns with the Jok?
Speaker 1: Wondering what to do with him? Too small? Too small,
Speaker 1: not knowing what to do with him? And when I
Speaker 1: say too small, I just mean, you know, if you're
Speaker 1: asking him to make one hundred tackles a season, he
Speaker 1: weighs like two hundred and five pounds. Yep. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying I have a problem. I'm just talking about the league.
Speaker 1: I don't think any of us here necessarily have a
Speaker 1: problem with it. By the way, we are moments away
Speaker 1: from the post draft press conference that will be starting soon,
Speaker 1: which I always wonder about that, Like if they start
Speaker 1: the presser, that means they're done for tonight, yeah, which
Speaker 1: they usually don't do it until after the first round
Speaker 1: is over, so we'll see what happens. Way they wait
Speaker 1: for us, we get some good picks coming here, and
Speaker 1: we do have some really good picks coming. They're not
Speaker 1: gonna wait, we would we will pitch live to it
Speaker 1: whenever we can, and then we will back up the
Speaker 1: post draft press conference before it is before we get
Speaker 1: kicked off. If we get kicked off, I'm just okay.
Speaker 1: So guys that are still hanging around again, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to trade up boys targets,
Speaker 1: which and that's it bums me out because like, I
Speaker 1: don't think they would trade up for Jay. Okay, I
Speaker 1: know they love. They don't mean too. They just drafted
Speaker 1: Michael Parson. Well I'm not I'm drafting him to do
Speaker 1: something else, but that's true. American Richie Grant, Azizolari, Azizo Jilari,
Speaker 1: Eric Stokes cornerback from Georgia's Hunt, Elijah Molden from Washington,
Speaker 1: Melofon Wu. You know, I don't think they would go
Speaker 1: a debo at forty four, but Richie Grant and America
Speaker 1: is kind of where my attention is right now. And
Speaker 1: I would say this, Christian Barmore and On zourik the
Speaker 1: defensive tackles, you know, those are those are guys who
Speaker 1: have got on my mind because this kind of takes
Speaker 1: you out of the mix of the Nick Bolton's of
Speaker 1: the world. Uh, the Jabril Cox, the Baron Brownies can't
Speaker 1: take you out of that those which it's a bummer
Speaker 1: for me because I love all three of those guys.
Speaker 1: But those guys are done, like Cowboys aren't drafting them now.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at my defensive ens, Basham Turner trying from Washington.
Speaker 1: I'll love Joe Trying trying. It would be great. I mean,
Speaker 1: Marek's still available, but that I think that's just kind
Speaker 1: of a pipe dream if you're not going to trade
Speaker 1: up and try and go get somebody. Eric Stokes, I know,
Speaker 1: was a guy they like a lot, and they had
Speaker 1: talked to previously, Javon Holland out of Oregon. Believe they
Speaker 1: Campbell they talked to Campbell as well. That's what I
Speaker 1: was gonna say. One of the number one things I've
Speaker 1: learned and doing the draft Marvin Wilson, is that Baltimore
Speaker 1: always takes good players and they pick at twenty seven
Speaker 1: and thirty one, They're gonna get two studs here. Oh
Speaker 1: it's gonna be jail jail. Okay, makes so much sense
Speaker 1: for Baltimore, would make a ton of sense. They see
Speaker 1: they're celebrating right now. They need a wide receiver, they
Speaker 1: need a bigger This Bateman I think makes a lot
Speaker 1: of Baltimore because you know they have Marquis Brown. Um,
Speaker 1: you know they still run Willie Snead out there sometimes. Um,
Speaker 1: but like, who's the other the Miles gasking, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's that's the Dolphins. It's the other it's and that
Speaker 1: they did just draft Devin DuVernay last year. He didn't
Speaker 1: do much as a rookie. You get to play much.
Speaker 1: You're still hoping Hollywood Brown turns into something. But they
Speaker 1: are a bigger guy, an an Quon Bolden type of
Speaker 1: they had they well they and they went and signed
Speaker 1: Dez and during the season Bateman would make a lot
Speaker 1: of sense. Fun it's Brian brings this up. Maybe he
Speaker 1: just infected my brain, but like he probably did. We
Speaker 1: sit here picking at ten, you know, the Cowboys picked
Speaker 1: at ten, and we're just like, oh no, like they're
Speaker 1: gonna get wiped out. We don't love our options. Baltimore
Speaker 1: is way down at twenty seven and we're like, I
Speaker 1: love all of these players that they could pick, Like
Speaker 1: it always works out for Baltimore for some reason. And
Speaker 1: they've got two picks at it. They got two swings
Speaker 1: at it because if they don't go j okay here,
Speaker 1: they could go out of my thirty one if heat
Speaker 1: makes it that far. The Saints are probably gonna go
Speaker 1: with a Sante Samuel Junior. You would think at twenty
Speaker 1: eight they're desperate for a corner. They've made that perfectly clear.
Speaker 1: Put him on the other side of I'm blanking on Latimore,
Speaker 1: who only has one year left on his deal. By
Speaker 1: the way, Yeah, I think they would. I think they're
Speaker 1: pretty locked in on a corner there, unless they want
Speaker 1: to go with Stokes or Campbell. I mean, they could
Speaker 1: go with either one of those guys there, other than
Speaker 1: maybe Alex Leatherwood. We haven't been floored by a pick tonight, right,
Speaker 1: I Mean it's more just like the order of operations
Speaker 1: tonight in the Trey Lance thing and then what happened,
Speaker 1: you know with the Cowboys really with the trade down,
Speaker 1: I mean those the most the Cowboys are part of
Speaker 1: the most intriguing stuff. And I'm not saying that because
Speaker 1: that's who we cover, you know, yeah, for a living.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's kind of like it wasn't shocking
Speaker 1: when J. C. Horne went to Carolina at eight and
Speaker 1: Leatherwood is the which you know, maybe I'll eat my words.
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be which there's still you know,
Speaker 1: there's still some picks to make. But Kedarius Tony was
Speaker 1: the other one that was a little bit like, oh okay,
Speaker 1: surprised me. I mean, maybe to see him go as
Speaker 1: high as twenty was a little surprising, but division rival.
Speaker 1: I thought he had a real shot at being a
Speaker 1: first round pick though m Ravens on the clock, still
Speaker 1: waiting on that pick to come in and as they
Speaker 1: try to stretch this thing out to eleven PM Central time,
Speaker 1: that's what they do. By the way, I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the Cowboys Pro Shop. You can go on line and
Speaker 1: the Parsons paraphernalia is available. At least based off of
Speaker 1: what I'm seeing on the pro shop, it looks like
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons is gonna be wearing number one, unless that's
Speaker 1: a placeholder. That's a placeholder. That's the I don't know.
Speaker 1: It says Michael Parson's number one. Nike games like the
Speaker 1: description say number one, so it very well could be.
Speaker 1: It could be a place will holder number first round
Speaker 1: if he can't get eleven, Number one would look pretty slick,
Speaker 1: really good Baltimore and it is Rishad Bateman, wide receiver
Speaker 1: from Minnesota, and you know, it's exactly what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: It makes sense, and that's I think I mocked him there.
Speaker 1: I think it's just some of those deals where it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: here's something that makes way too much sense. Good consistent career.
Speaker 1: He opted out after a few games in twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: had fifty one catches as Ashman, up that to sixty
Speaker 1: as a sophomore, but he only played five games this year.
Speaker 1: He actually they wanted him to move to the slot
Speaker 1: and he had a lot of bad quarterback play, which
Speaker 1: you remember two years ago that Minnesota team was pretty good,
Speaker 1: the PJ. Fleck team, good hands, good size. The thing
Speaker 1: there's a few things that would say about him is
Speaker 1: I don't know that the separation is always there with him,
Speaker 1: Like he's not incredibly fast to me, and I think
Speaker 1: his testing time is probably fine, but you know, he
Speaker 1: didn't always get a lot of separation. But that tough,
Speaker 1: physical wide receiver type who would flash a big player
Speaker 1: here and there. He would have some crazy circus catches
Speaker 1: now and then, you know, the polished type of guy,
Speaker 1: but he's just not you know, a pure separator. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good player. He's gonna win as a true X.
Speaker 1: I mean time speed may not have been great during
Speaker 1: his workouts, but that didn't stop him from hauling in
Speaker 1: I mean, fourteen deep passes in twenty nineteen by Pro
Speaker 1: Football Focus standards. So overall, I mean, Bateman is one
Speaker 1: of those guys that can win downfield. He's got the size,
Speaker 1: he's got the speed two of somewhat extend. He wasn't
Speaker 1: going to light up the forty time. I mean he
Speaker 1: still ran a four for one. Yeah, but he's not
Speaker 1: gonna be He was never a speed guy. He's a
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna win to go now like ready, oh
Speaker 1: hell he'll ball. He's way more polished than Kadarius Tony is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know. So, I mean it's a good pick, and
Speaker 1: they know Baltimore looks like we'll pick again at thirty one.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna go to the We're gonna go to
Speaker 1: the presser as it is already started, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let Steven talk about the trade if you don't mind
Speaker 1: himling that way more. No, I think we were sitting
Speaker 1: there at ten and obviously we didn't want to go
Speaker 1: too far back because we did really like Micah and
Speaker 1: we didn't want to get in a position where, uh,
Speaker 1: we didn't think we could get him. So Philly had called,
Speaker 1: and we knew what they were trying to do. It
Speaker 1: was obvious they we're trying to get in front of
Speaker 1: the Giants and uh and get the player they were after.
Speaker 1: And really felt like that, uh, you know, we knew
Speaker 1: what they were gonna take. They told us what side
Speaker 1: of the ball and and then felt like we'd get
Speaker 1: through the Giants and still get our player and pick
Speaker 1: up a third round pick. Did you kind of think
Speaker 1: that even if they didn't take DeVante Smith, like he
Speaker 1: was going to be in the division anyway, He's probably
Speaker 1: going either the Giants three exactly. We thought he was
Speaker 1: going to be one place or another. We had actually
Speaker 1: had conversation to a Philly a couple of days ago
Speaker 1: about this. Is there hesitation trading within the division like this,
Speaker 1: which the Eagles a little more so than any other
Speaker 1: team around or is it? No? Not if that's the
Speaker 1: trade the trade which answers your question, you're looking for
Speaker 1: the value value there and so there was no, that
Speaker 1: wasn't a hesitation. That's but that's probably getting name a
Speaker 1: little tight there when you got through or four other considerations.
Speaker 1: You're trying to get the most value for the pick
Speaker 1: and get the best player. Of course, at the same time,
Speaker 1: we had our ass even said we had our al Michael,
Speaker 1: and didn't want to get too far down that road
Speaker 1: to go there. We could have had a posture there
Speaker 1: of taking it on down. I'll go ahead and address
Speaker 1: my part of this conference has agreed upon here at
Speaker 1: this time. But we could have gone ahead and really
Speaker 1: worked at moving on down and around and picked up
Speaker 1: more picks. And that was a possibility there and remained
Speaker 1: because the quality of the players that were there on
Speaker 1: the board. But we had resolved that and had thought
Speaker 1: in general we had the tenth pick, and boy, we
Speaker 1: want to get a unique or a player of the
Speaker 1: substantive relative to his upside sometimes what we could do
Speaker 1: with him. Michael addressed that, but we just didn't have
Speaker 1: the stomach to risk losing him relative too of our
Speaker 1: evaluation on him, and so or otherwise you might have
Speaker 1: seen us make two or three smaller trades and move
Speaker 1: on down and still be in the money, but not
Speaker 1: in his kind of money he was, or how much
Speaker 1: time did you spend anticipating what was going to happen
Speaker 1: in the cornerbacks at eight and nine and think about
Speaker 1: trying to inch ahead of eight and nine A lot.
Speaker 1: We've been talking about the quarterbacks being gone at eight
Speaker 1: and nine since for days, but certainly today within is
Speaker 1: the day coming, and we intensively talked about the possibility
Speaker 1: all day long and be ready, and we're really there
Speaker 1: were no surprises here or no consternation about that under
Speaker 1: certain circumstances, we wanted to make this pick for this place.
Speaker 1: We add to that, Mike, as we were really pleased
Speaker 1: with what was on our board. I mean, obviously you
Speaker 1: know the need you know, stuck out a little bit
Speaker 1: with the corners, but you know, we had some players
Speaker 1: that were rated ahead of the corners on natural grades.
Speaker 1: But so we felt comfortable waiting conversations with it. Number six,
Speaker 1: but let's talk with the team. At six, you get
Speaker 1: ahead of eight nine, No, we weren't wanting to give
Speaker 1: up what it would take to get up there. It's
Speaker 1: a how surprised me, I guess you've learned surprised me?
Speaker 1: I will answer that it was not as long as
Speaker 1: we got. Frankly, what we got done. We didn't want
Speaker 1: to spend anything to get up as long as we
Speaker 1: can get him to go get those corners. We did
Speaker 1: not imagine if what we got to move two spots back,
Speaker 1: what it would have cost to go from ten to six. Yeah,
Speaker 1: raided higher than the corners on your board. Yes, yes, yes, definitely.
Speaker 1: Now you know you got to say that every year. Well,
Speaker 1: the only thing I can do is what would you
Speaker 1: like to walk down I'll tell you what I'll do now.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you walk down trip free. Okay,
Speaker 1: if you've got a thousand, we want a nast We'll
Speaker 1: just both walk down there together and have him turn
Speaker 1: I'll tell him turn the lights off to you get there,
Speaker 1: and we'll clipping out. Y'all have your ya right or not?
Speaker 1: He was. I mean, Mike is a dynamic player, and
Speaker 1: I think clearly when you you watch him play, he's
Speaker 1: a multi positional player. I mean, you obviously can play
Speaker 1: on the ball as a linebacker, has natural pass rush skills.
Speaker 1: I mean that that's something you know, we were talking
Speaker 1: about really about the last ten days preparing for you know,
Speaker 1: what was going to go on after seven in this draft.
Speaker 1: You know, obviously playing off the ball. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: an impact rusher inside and outside. You know, you can
Speaker 1: play in the bubble, you can play behind the three technique,
Speaker 1: so there's you know, he gives us a lot of
Speaker 1: flex ability to you know, to line up with the
Speaker 1: other linebacker. So he's a dynamic he's you know, he's
Speaker 1: a pressure player and he's definitely gonna make an impact
Speaker 1: for us on defense role he can't I mean, he
Speaker 1: could train with those traits. He definitely has DPR traits,
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. Obviously see him play off
Speaker 1: the ball mostly the in Penn State. But that is
Speaker 1: definitely That's what I was referring to as having natural
Speaker 1: pass rous skills. So and once again I can't say enough.
Speaker 1: He's dynamic. He can play the sam, the mic and
Speaker 1: a wheel. Um. You know, whether he's covered up in
Speaker 1: the bubble or you know, whether he's playing to the
Speaker 1: open guard or if he's playing the DPR. So he
Speaker 1: just gives us the multiple looks to get in and
Speaker 1: out of different personnels. Obviously a good matchup player too.
Speaker 1: I mean it's obviously his speed and ability to cover
Speaker 1: so is a great piece. His presence changed the plan
Speaker 1: for Ken O'Neil may he played more safety earlier than
Speaker 1: you guys initially were indigenous. I mean, you know, once again,
Speaker 1: you don't line up with just eleven. You know, you're
Speaker 1: definitely when you look at the playing the game and
Speaker 1: we get in the regular season, you're gonna be playing
Speaker 1: with teen fourteen, fifteen starters. So it gives us multiple
Speaker 1: personnel group flexibility. You know, same with Neil. I mean,
Speaker 1: these guys to be able to come out of the
Speaker 1: back end and come up and play the world linebacker,
Speaker 1: the Dine linebackers, so a lot of flexibility there. How
Speaker 1: much of what you did tonight affects what you could
Speaker 1: do with Bandaris on Monday. Doesn't think it makes us better?
Speaker 1: I mean it makes us better. I mean you know
Speaker 1: your base defense where you played with three linebackers off
Speaker 1: the ball or two off the ball, one on the ball.
Speaker 1: I mean it's just once again I'm trying not to
Speaker 1: be redundant, Harry just be gives it's tremendous position flexibility.
Speaker 1: So and it definitely makes Layton and Jalen better. But
Speaker 1: from the financial end, with the fifth ye option, I
Speaker 1: don't think it affects it. And then no Maka decision
Speaker 1: on Layton, and we will, uh, you know, make that
Speaker 1: decision when the time comes, and we've got some discussions
Speaker 1: to have on that period. Yeah, that's no bearing on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: That weather a player opted out was definitely a consideration
Speaker 1: in the draft. How factor in tonight? And I guess
Speaker 1: on the flip side, what did you like about Mica
Speaker 1: so much that that didn't stop you from taking him? Well,
Speaker 1: his makeup, his way he approaches the game. H was
Speaker 1: Uh was an attention getter. Obviously physically he is a freak.
Speaker 1: And you've heard it and you've said it, and you said,
Speaker 1: he really has that And just my perspective, I wanted
Speaker 1: a player there that really impacted strategy, that had a
Speaker 1: way for us to load it up and give give
Speaker 1: you know, just just give unique problems because of the nature.
Speaker 1: So he gives us that kind of upside. Uh. And
Speaker 1: he's got the right he's got the right approach to
Speaker 1: making that happen. And uh, I've I don't envision anything
Speaker 1: but and Mike keeps going back to it. We just
Speaker 1: got better. We just got better. We might have gotten
Speaker 1: better just by circumstances. Then we even could have managed
Speaker 1: to get better by going with him as opposed to
Speaker 1: with a corner at this spot. Was the thought about
Speaker 1: trying to get back in the first round after you
Speaker 1: made the decision tonight, No, no, we're not. Now our
Speaker 1: phones are open if if and people are calling and
Speaker 1: now so I've had them and we've had them, would
Speaker 1: you like to get back in the first round those
Speaker 1: kinds of things and so, but we haven't entertained that.
Speaker 1: Don't anticipate that. While it wasn't surprising that the corners
Speaker 1: were gone the way you guys mapped, I wasn't still
Speaker 1: disappointing to see them go, considering those guys were even
Speaker 1: if they weren't as highly rated on the board as
Speaker 1: part Well I will speak for myself there, but uh
Speaker 1: any uh, any uh bit of any bit of sensitivity
Speaker 1: about them being gone had been talked over carefully and
Speaker 1: with complete honesty within ourself. We thought that Parsons would
Speaker 1: immediately turn the light on for optimism about what we
Speaker 1: could do with our offense and so um when we
Speaker 1: saw that certain and uh Parsons was there, well we
Speaker 1: knew we had where we had was going to be
Speaker 1: a good time for us there. But bottom line is
Speaker 1: that I can tell you. From my standpoint right now,
Speaker 1: I'm excited to get that rare individual with that rare
Speaker 1: attitude that he's got. I'm excited about having him on defense.
Speaker 1: If you've got to get up there and draft at
Speaker 1: this level, I'm excited about what he does for us.
Speaker 1: He can do. He can do a lot of damage
Speaker 1: or impact to the identity of this defense. He has
Speaker 1: that type of talent and rare skills, and so that's good.
Speaker 1: I don't want to take away from any other player
Speaker 1: that might have been out there, but arguably being that
Speaker 1: have that kind of stature is where we had him
Speaker 1: graded on our draft board as a defensive player, and
Speaker 1: he's it's it's it's it's production, but it's also you've
Speaker 1: got to look at the physical advantages that he has
Speaker 1: in this game. See a leader. What kind of leadership
Speaker 1: do you expect him to bring and develop into over
Speaker 1: the course of his time here. I look for him
Speaker 1: to develop as a leader. I look for our whole
Speaker 1: lockerm to develop some role as a leader. We talked
Speaker 1: about this as a team actually today in our team meeting.
Speaker 1: Your leadership is a responsibility for everybody. I mean there's
Speaker 1: different types, different styles, but you know he'll definitely come
Speaker 1: in as a rookie and have the opportunity to grow
Speaker 1: as a leader. I said, y'all investigate the quote unquote
Speaker 1: character concerns with the allegations or whatever else. And he
Speaker 1: had up there. We did a tremendous amount of homework.
Speaker 1: We felt really good about anything he had that there
Speaker 1: might be a concern about. We did backwards, forwards, every
Speaker 1: which way you can do it. How do you feel
Speaker 1: about the corners in general that are still available in
Speaker 1: this corner class? You know, obviously then he thought you'd
Speaker 1: get one in the first round, but I feel a
Speaker 1: lot of picks in the second, third round. How do
Speaker 1: you feel about we can still be out there for
Speaker 1: your definition? I think we feel good about it. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've done a lot of work on our board, and
Speaker 1: that's why we followed our board when we picked Micah.
Speaker 1: And I think there's a lot of good football players
Speaker 1: that we you know, that we can get out there.
Speaker 1: We've got, you know, five picks and the top hundred picks,
Speaker 1: so we should really be able to improve our football team.
Speaker 1: And I do think there's gonna be some great opportunities
Speaker 1: to fill that corner need at some point, guys, what
Speaker 1: is it do for you to have that many picks
Speaker 1: on Day two? Is there ability to potentially move up
Speaker 1: and package all these picks that you have, or just
Speaker 1: to take advantage of the sweet spot in the draft?
Speaker 1: You know, anytime you're in our situation where now we've
Speaker 1: got the you know, the high end quarterback that's getting
Speaker 1: paid like a high end quarterback, which he so well deserves.
Speaker 1: We've got obviously some great players in the offensive line
Speaker 1: that are getting paid. We've got d Law, We've got
Speaker 1: to Zeke, We've got to you know, we need draft picks.
Speaker 1: We need draft picks that we can have come in
Speaker 1: here and really make a difference. And I think that's
Speaker 1: what we can do. We've taken a lot of pride
Speaker 1: in the way we've drafted over the last ten years,
Speaker 1: and I think we put a lot of work into
Speaker 1: our board in terms of how we've set it up.
Speaker 1: And I think if we just stick to all the
Speaker 1: work that we put in into it, in particular our
Speaker 1: coaches and our scouts here, Jerry myself the last three
Speaker 1: or four weeks, and then of course all the work
Speaker 1: they put into it over the past year, I think
Speaker 1: we're gonna get really good football players, and uh, I
Speaker 1: think we just gotta, you know, keep you you know,
Speaker 1: just keep steady in the boat and make the picks.
Speaker 1: Jerry Stephen, were you guys at the Cotton Bowl that
Speaker 1: Mica played in? Were you guys at that game? I
Speaker 1: was not. I was not at the game, but we
Speaker 1: were aware that he had played in the Cotton Bowl
Speaker 1: and we're reminded of that that he had. But I
Speaker 1: want to say one other thing here too. We did
Speaker 1: have including him, not that we were going to do it,
Speaker 1: but we had four other scenarios that we would have
Speaker 1: if if at the time of our pick, if both
Speaker 1: those corners had been there, that we would have done
Speaker 1: something else. We had four different scenarios that now it
Speaker 1: we were missing something in that conversation and that's what
Speaker 1: the other clubs were doing at that particular time, but
Speaker 1: scenarios that had us moving forward, and we had Okay,
Speaker 1: we'd be moving forward. We could always use the pick
Speaker 1: if in fact he's still there for Micah and then
Speaker 1: move on into it. So when you asked the question
Speaker 1: about what's left and the draft looking forward over the
Speaker 1: next few days, if we've we've really give aired that out,
Speaker 1: good and we're ready for that. Michael, did the draft
Speaker 1: last year? I guess if you made Jerry, you want
Speaker 1: a yacht? Did the draft last yoon? I guess wherever
Speaker 1: else when you aren't a yacht? How good was it
Speaker 1: to being kind of normal in a sense? This this
Speaker 1: going around with the draft. I mean, clearly, there's so
Speaker 1: much better. I mean it's been in person, and frankly,
Speaker 1: the draft process leading up to the draft I roll
Speaker 1: or I think when you have a chance to be
Speaker 1: in the same room with the scouts and you know,
Speaker 1: do all the readings in person, you know there was
Speaker 1: so much more productive. I mean, because there is a
Speaker 1: camaraderie to building your board. You know, when the coaches
Speaker 1: and the staff, personnel staff comes together and then you
Speaker 1: have the final meetings. So that whole process is I
Speaker 1: think we all needed it a lot of times with
Speaker 1: our team. We didn't get a chance to do it
Speaker 1: this year. But when I visit with the team when
Speaker 1: we first go to training camp, but one of the
Speaker 1: things I say to the team is I've been blessed
Speaker 1: and I could be anywhere in the world I want
Speaker 1: to be, but where I want to be is here
Speaker 1: kicking this camp off. With you, and I feel the
Speaker 1: same way about some other things that we do with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and one of them is draft day. And
Speaker 1: so if I could pick any place I wanted to be,
Speaker 1: then I was sitting in it tonight. Because I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that's any other place, but that is a nice
Speaker 1: little place to be if you wanted to be someplace.
Speaker 1: But the point is that we're all here empty in
Speaker 1: our buckets for what we love to do, and so
Speaker 1: we're making that choice. And I want to put empty
Speaker 1: mind being around the draft room, empty mind being at
Speaker 1: training camp. And I'm reminding I'm not going to tell
Speaker 1: you I was looking at there, but that's a party
Speaker 1: that we have out there to nobu in California. I'd
Speaker 1: like to be sure and go to that time to time.
Speaker 1: We get it a few more times, y as you're
Speaker 1: into your bucket the day and get prepared for the draft,
Speaker 1: where you like us. When you heard of the Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers news and Mike, you know just what's going on
Speaker 1: with up in Green Baity, y'alls take a path from
Speaker 1: draft and that shock you, but that yes, yes, both, Oh,
Speaker 1: I mean I think it's it's like everything in this business.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think anything ever surprises you. And
Speaker 1: you know, things like that go on, you know, conversations
Speaker 1: I think are always going on when it comes to
Speaker 1: player acquisition. Obviously no one knows the you know, the
Speaker 1: impact that Aaron Rodgers has made on the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I didn't really give it much thought. And
Speaker 1: you know, obviously I didn't see anything happened today, so
Speaker 1: it's good news story. I ended up. Jerry wanted to
Speaker 1: get in on an action. I'm so much attention up
Speaker 1: there and you know everything with Quad running the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Jerry told me when I got her, all news is
Speaker 1: good news. So uh, he's better. You can answer this
Speaker 1: one a lot better I can. I found it's better
Speaker 1: to sturb a little stuff up than it is sometime
Speaker 1: to make it run smooth, and you'll go with that.
Speaker 1: Actually I was calm, but we were talking about our relationship,
Speaker 1: our media and what have you, and uh, I won't
Speaker 1: I won't bake the thing. But I was talking about
Speaker 1: I've had it as rough on me as anybody there is.
Speaker 1: But the facts are that enjoy my relationship with the media,
Speaker 1: and I found to be most of the time at
Speaker 1: the right time to be good folks, real good folks
Speaker 1: have been good to me most of the time, have
Speaker 1: been shot at any anybody. Well, we feel the same
Speaker 1: way about you. It was but but exactly. But I said,
Speaker 1: don't get this your best friend. If it's gold that story,
Speaker 1: if it's he'll he'll get out there. I promise you
Speaker 1: that we understand, Mike. There are no flashbacks on the
Speaker 1: Brett Farm stuff that you guys had to go through
Speaker 1: up there when they are and stuff came came about. Uh. Um,
Speaker 1: that was an experience that um, God help me out, Jerry, Well,
Speaker 1: I will, I will do. I'm gonna mess you up
Speaker 1: out of you guys, uh and advise you. I believe
Speaker 1: i'd stay away from that one. You're a little too close. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you. Thanks for the ill. Get fine. I'll get
Speaker 1: fine for tampering if I come in on it. But
Speaker 1: I'm not too sure with your background up there of
Speaker 1: what it was a long time to be evolved from that.
Speaker 1: A long time. Hey, that was then this is now, Yes, right,
Speaker 1: I'll focus on the cowboys. How how did you work
Speaker 1: through the potential mental obstacle of tracting a player who
Speaker 1: opted out? And it's been so long since his most
Speaker 1: recent game film. How did you guys come to feel
Speaker 1: comfortable with that? You had to? I mean, I think
Speaker 1: it was part of the evaluation process. And I you know,
Speaker 1: I give Will and the whole personnel style so much
Speaker 1: credit on just the way they laid it out, and
Speaker 1: you know, we had all the information. Jerry spoke on
Speaker 1: us the other day. The medical frankly was the hardest
Speaker 1: part um. I think, in my personal opinion, you have
Speaker 1: to look at each player individually. You know why they
Speaker 1: opted out because they're there are so many different circumstances.
Speaker 1: I think you have to look at it. You listened
Speaker 1: to it, and but you have to evaluate the information
Speaker 1: that you had. And we feel great about having Michael
Speaker 1: joined our football team. To make some comparisons to Bobby
Speaker 1: Wagner for him in the dan Quinn scheme. Can you
Speaker 1: see that? I mean, is that kind of what he
Speaker 1: could be for a dan Quinn defensive scheme? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't exactly recall Bobby. You know that the pressure player
Speaker 1: he was coming out, But I think Bobby Wagner as
Speaker 1: an extraordinary football player and he was one of my
Speaker 1: favorite defensive players to compete against. You know, we had
Speaker 1: some battles against that Seattle defense, and he's a really
Speaker 1: good pressure player. So I do think it's a good
Speaker 1: comparable because you know, they'd never really asked Bobby to
Speaker 1: go what you know, why go wide and play the
Speaker 1: sam DPR. But I'm not saying he Quentin, you know,
Speaker 1: because that wasn't part of the scheme where you know,
Speaker 1: we do he mikeel does have an ability and that's
Speaker 1: definitely part of our defense that we will carry over
Speaker 1: from last year. Mike, I mentioned on our call, I
Speaker 1: think that he only talked to the team once virtually
Speaker 1: between not having the thirty day visits and only having
Speaker 1: that one with him. Is this the least y'all have
Speaker 1: gotten to, no personal or directly a player who you've
Speaker 1: drafted in the first round. I think it's fair for anyone, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you know, we didn't have the combine,
Speaker 1: we didn't have the the thirty five visits. I think
Speaker 1: that's sacred, Mike, you would be fair. Mikey reference on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: speed and energy couple traits you're looking for on the
Speaker 1: defenside ball. I assume that that Micael helps in that
Speaker 1: area you've been trying to Bingo. I mean I don't
Speaker 1: know how better to say it. I mean, he's he's
Speaker 1: got unbelievable speed and energy. He plays the game that
Speaker 1: we where we want to play on defense, the way
Speaker 1: we're going to play on defense. And you know, outside
Speaker 1: of his ability to be an impact player, he goes
Speaker 1: and gets the football. You can see the pass coverage.
Speaker 1: I mean, our number one focus is turn over. Their
Speaker 1: differential always will be every day, and we just added
Speaker 1: a player that that is outstanding at going and taking
Speaker 1: the football away or hits on the football. He's an
Speaker 1: impact player. Stephen. You've not got a big bundle of
Speaker 1: picks coming up. On the one hand, there's some logics
Speaker 1: say and give us the most darts and give us
Speaker 1: the most chances. On the other hand, there's there's some
Speaker 1: logic cap wise to packaging those picks and trying to
Speaker 1: get a little more quality instead of quantity. Cap Wise
Speaker 1: logic would be to take each one of them, because
Speaker 1: that gives us the opportunity to, you know, have very
Speaker 1: valuable players at a low price and hopefully they beat
Speaker 1: out veteran players and that type of situation. But if
Speaker 1: the right guys sitting there and uh, you know, we
Speaker 1: want to go get a guy certainly gives you the
Speaker 1: ammunition to make a move. If we see a guy, hey,
Speaker 1: that's this is the gay we want. You know, we're
Speaker 1: still about eight nine picks out. Don't think he'll make
Speaker 1: it to us. Let's go get him. And we've done
Speaker 1: that before. I mean, we're certainly not opposed to doing that.
Speaker 1: Just cost so much up in that top ten to
Speaker 1: move slots. And of course, you know, our bigger thing
Speaker 1: was we knew those corners could go, but they were
Speaker 1: still sitting there, and they were still sitting there. They
Speaker 1: were still sitting there, and we, like Micah Jerry Micah
Speaker 1: said he'd like to continue to wear number eleven, obviously
Speaker 1: not a traditional linebacker number that's changed in the league.
Speaker 1: What's your would you like would you be okay with that?
Speaker 1: And what's your thoughts on the guys be able to
Speaker 1: wear different numbers now than they have in the past.
Speaker 1: But I was big on eighty eight last year, had
Speaker 1: a per reason, a great friend of mine I lost
Speaker 1: him that was a grade eighty eight player, and then
Speaker 1: of course just eighty eight. I'm not there on this
Speaker 1: matter on a personal basis at all. I will say,
Speaker 1: though there's a lot of a lot to consider. As
Speaker 1: you know, we do a great job of our players
Speaker 1: and their visibility and their identification with their numbers. We
Speaker 1: do the Gum Boys, DoD and so there's other considerations
Speaker 1: that are made there and those guys have to uh
Speaker 1: negotiate those changes and so sometimes it's a good deal,
Speaker 1: good enough deal from the want to change. Sometimes it
Speaker 1: isn't and we usually as you know, between players, let
Speaker 1: them work that out between players one once got it
Speaker 1: and the others guy, we'll have to if anybody wants
Speaker 1: nine would have to represent Romo on this side of
Speaker 1: the table. For that how would you represent Romo? We
Speaker 1: would determine how much it's worth to have number nine
Speaker 1: on so to speak. But we've we are very aware
Speaker 1: of what happens a relative to the personalities identification with
Speaker 1: a number, and it's not frivolous, So it'll be considered,
Speaker 1: It'll be considered, but certainly genuinely consider. But we'll have
Speaker 1: to be considered in light of some of the other
Speaker 1: things that you do, and not the least of which
Speaker 1: is of all the things that are out here that
Speaker 1: have that identification with that personality with that number. And
Speaker 1: we're pretty uh we're pretty sensitive about twelve around here.
Speaker 1: We're pretty sensitive about eight around here. We're twenty two
Speaker 1: and those those numbers, and so those are decisions that
Speaker 1: will make we'll make as a club. Have any plan
Speaker 1: and let me this, this is a club decision. Have
Speaker 1: any current players asked that will switch here? Any current
Speaker 1: veterans asked to switch numbers? We've had a couple. Well,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say asked to switch. What would be entail? Okay, conversations? Yes,
Speaker 1: fair enough to say, fair enough to say, I'd like
Speaker 1: to just weigh how you do it and what you
Speaker 1: would consider, and you'd get one of these out of
Speaker 1: outside your mouth answers, probably if you're talking to him.
Speaker 1: Probably if you're talking to him there too. But that's
Speaker 1: how you do it, and you finally run around and
Speaker 1: get something done. But it's it's not something that really
Speaker 1: lends itself to old straightforward Yes, no, do it not
Speaker 1: do it's what's involved here. But it's certainly something that's
Speaker 1: fun to do. You know what, I'm excited about it.
Speaker 1: I'm excited about it being a something of interest, something
Speaker 1: creating some conversation, something being a part of it. That's
Speaker 1: exciting to me. And I'm already impressed that that issue
Speaker 1: can create interests. That's there, and I not only like
Speaker 1: it from the players standpoint, but I like it from
Speaker 1: the fan standpoint. Two things, guys, we're expecting Micah here
Speaker 1: for a three pm press conference tomorrow afternoon. And Brad
Speaker 1: Sham is weight in via text. He was at the
Speaker 1: Cotton Bowl and he did his research on Mica and
Speaker 1: thinks the guy's a beast. So if anybody wants for
Speaker 1: the verification, give brand a call tomorrow. Would bring our
Speaker 1: own photographers are to be your photographers. Now you can
Speaker 1: bring a photographer tomorrow. Thank you, thank thanks, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you. So that is the post draft press conference
Speaker 1: from Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, and Mike McCarthy. After the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys conclude their first day of the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: one NFL Draft. Micah Parsons, Penn State linebackers selected with
Speaker 1: the twelfth overall pick. You heard from all three parties
Speaker 1: there on just how that went down. It was a
Speaker 1: trade with Philadelphia going from ten to twelve to select Parsons,
Speaker 1: and the first round has concluded in the process as
Speaker 1: the final pick is in and the Jacksonville Jaguars are
Speaker 1: officially on the clock to start round number two, but
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay selects Joe try On, the edge rusher out
Speaker 1: of Washington, which is a really good pick. I think
Speaker 1: over we're all to conclude the day, and Katie, I
Speaker 1: know you really liked try On and what he brought
Speaker 1: to the table. Now, I like trying I mean, here
Speaker 1: was a guy I would have considered, you know, on
Speaker 1: day two. It was interesting in that press conference that
Speaker 1: you know, the Stephen mentioned, you know, the clear need
Speaker 1: at cornerback, and he did say that, and real quick
Speaker 1: the picks before that, Jason Oaf from Penn State went
Speaker 1: to Baltimore, thirty one, thirty Buffalo, Gregory Rousseau. If it's
Speaker 1: a Vineman from Miami, Yeah, how about jokingly mocked to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys at around two? Did you Joe on Tuesday Show?
Speaker 1: I just wanted to stick it to Cavanaal, that's fair.
Speaker 1: Twenty nine the Packers take Eric Stokes, the cornerback from Georgia,
Speaker 1: which could hurt a little bit. And then twenty eight
Speaker 1: New Orleans takes Peyton Turner defensive n of Houston. Peyton
Speaker 1: Turner and Eric Stokes, two guys that thought might be
Speaker 1: cowboy targets at forty four. So but the fact that
Speaker 1: he mentioned cornerback. You know, I'm looking at my board
Speaker 1: and this is just me. I'm if I'm leaving someone out.
Speaker 1: You guys, let me know for tomorrow Sante Samuel, who
Speaker 1: I don't think they would take because a little smaller.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, we all agree on that. Elijah Olden,
Speaker 1: there's been whispers maybe playing him at safety. No, you
Speaker 1: could play at nickel corner. Aaron Robinson, the cornerback from
Speaker 1: Central Florida, but still still kind of a more of
Speaker 1: a slot guy. Maybe you could play outside, but those
Speaker 1: the link Malfon Wu from Syracuse. We've talked about him
Speaker 1: a ton, and then they get into Kelvin Joseph from Kentucky,
Speaker 1: Paulson Adebo from Stanford, Tyson Campbell from Georgia. He shouted
Speaker 1: your safeties, no safeties taken on day one. So for
Speaker 1: all those people in love with married from TCU, Richie
Speaker 1: Grant from Central Florida, or Javan Holland from Oregon, those
Speaker 1: are your names right there. They're all there for you.
Speaker 1: I think the shocker today that Jeremiah Wosu Coromoa, the
Speaker 1: linebacker from Notre Dame didn't go Would this team consider
Speaker 1: him as safety? Maybe it's funny you just brought that up,
Speaker 1: Like normally I would be ecstatic. Jay Okay, Richie Grant,
Speaker 1: Javon Holland and Trevon Merrick are all there. Oh, Julari too.
Speaker 1: Just to throw it out there, you're thinking purely about safeties,
Speaker 1: and I'll throw in Elijah. I think this team will
Speaker 1: play him there. I would be ecstatic if they had
Speaker 1: a cornerback already in the bag and they don't. And
Speaker 1: I which I'm not trying to be a bummer, but
Speaker 1: this is the scenario we talked about, is if they
Speaker 1: got wiped out a corner early and they had to
Speaker 1: go with a specific position, where do you find corner now?
Speaker 1: And that's the thing is, like you gotta find an asap,
Speaker 1: don't you. Yep? Put up bar More still on the
Speaker 1: board and that's top two day pick there. This is
Speaker 1: the fascinating discussion of like, you know, how how much
Speaker 1: is it BPA really or how much do you lean
Speaker 1: toward your need because like I'm even I'm at the
Speaker 1: point right now. Again, you know, we'll think about this
Speaker 1: overnight and we'll have a lot to say tomorrow. But
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here thinking like they're gonna use one of
Speaker 1: these picks to get up and make sure they get
Speaker 1: a cornerback. That's what I think is going to happen.
Speaker 1: If you're asking me right now late on Thursday night,
Speaker 1: I think like Tyson Campbell, SEC player, guy who played
Speaker 1: on the boundary at Georgia against some of the best
Speaker 1: in the country. Kelvin Joseph as well. You don't have
Speaker 1: to move up to get those though, do you? Because
Speaker 1: when you pick twelfth tomorrow, do you want to count
Speaker 1: on that? You pick twelve, do you want to That's
Speaker 1: that's almost half the round? Do you want to count
Speaker 1: on that? And again I'm not asking a long time.
Speaker 1: I'm not asking Katie Turner what he wants to do.
Speaker 1: I'm asked like, if you're the Cowboys and you feel
Speaker 1: like you've got to come out of this draft with
Speaker 1: a cornerback that you like, can you count on that?
Speaker 1: I could see them moving up for Mary before at
Speaker 1: corner see I And we'll have the positional value discussion again,
Speaker 1: like what's more important? What do you what would what
Speaker 1: do you need to address? More edge Carlos Basham and
Speaker 1: out there. I'll all right, let me say this. I
Speaker 1: would rather do that, like if a bar more falls
Speaker 1: to me, or if if I can get married. And
Speaker 1: you know, hey, Richard Sherman and Casey Hayward are hanging
Speaker 1: around looking for work, like if you can't get your
Speaker 1: corner and you don't have to force it. I know
Speaker 1: nobody wants to hear that, but I don't want to
Speaker 1: hear that. But the point is to consider all options.
Speaker 1: You're right, and what I you know what I would
Speaker 1: I would rather. I would rather Dan Quinn call up
Speaker 1: his old pal Richard Sherman and try to get him
Speaker 1: here on a one year deal than give away a
Speaker 1: valuable pick just to make sure I don't get left
Speaker 1: out in the cold tomorrow night. Especially when do you
Speaker 1: agree with that or disagree? And if you disagree, that's fine, Katie.
Speaker 1: What do you think? I'm indifferent because I don't think
Speaker 1: necessarily Richard Sherman is a good corner anymore. I think
Speaker 1: he's like I mean, he's been in the league for
Speaker 1: like twelve years. Of course he's not what he used
Speaker 1: to be. I'm not trying to sell anybody on that
Speaker 1: you're in good shape with four picks tomorrow, let's put
Speaker 1: I'll say that, Yeah, I don't know if you're gonna
Speaker 1: have somebody I would say I'd probably disagree with that.
Speaker 1: But with four picks tomorrow and some good players on
Speaker 1: the board, and we mentioned who they probably wouldn't have
Speaker 1: interest in, like a Nick Bolton, Baron Browning and Jabrill Cox,
Speaker 1: Pete morn or all those linebackers, they're probably not gonna
Speaker 1: mess with, right, that kind of rules those guys out.
Speaker 1: I'm also looking over to the defensive tackle situation with
Speaker 1: Christian Barmore. I mean, how much does that intrigue you? On?
Speaker 1: Rozarique trigued me quite a bit. Zericke as well. Right,
Speaker 1: we've talked a lot about him. I don't know what
Speaker 1: their medicals will say. Feeling that Ozerick is going to
Speaker 1: fall to forty four, I think there's a really good
Speaker 1: chance he'll be there. I think Javon Holland will be there.
Speaker 1: I think Levi Anzoique will be there. Well, I have
Speaker 1: great about those guys. To TVN Jenkins, life holding, start
Speaker 1: doing start doing math. I mean, to your point, it's
Speaker 1: only twelve picks, so we can easily name eleven guys.
Speaker 1: You're right, that could go and like, there will be
Speaker 1: a guy that we like. But if we're talking about
Speaker 1: a specific position that you knew, and like you said
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys would have to come out with in
Speaker 1: this draft, you would have to be aggressive. We saw
Speaker 1: what happens when you sit back. You had both of
Speaker 1: your guys ripped off of you. We said, specifically, word
Speaker 1: for word, after the first seven picks, this is working
Speaker 1: out great for the Cowboys. This could not have been
Speaker 1: set up better than here we go, horns off the
Speaker 1: boards for tens off the board, and now you're set
Speaker 1: scrambling a little bit at ten. I don't I know nothing,
Speaker 1: Like I haven't even had a chance to go talk
Speaker 1: to anybody because we've been in the studio all night,
Speaker 1: But I am just from minded of twenty fourteen. They
Speaker 1: got done with day one and they, you know, they
Speaker 1: were like DeMarcus Lawrence is probably the last guy who
Speaker 1: we think can be our right end, and they went
Speaker 1: up and got him, and I mean it worked out.
Speaker 1: It was a great decision. What they need is outside corner, though,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's where like marriage is a safety.
Speaker 1: But half of almost half of Merrick Snaps came in
Speaker 1: the slot, and I think that's like an interesting thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, you played matchup guy, but you need the
Speaker 1: outside guy. But what if you think I can get
Speaker 1: Pulse into debo from Stanford at seventy five. We need
Speaker 1: to find out how much they like Adbo, how much
Speaker 1: do they like if you have to melofon because those
Speaker 1: are the length the guys left in Taxon Campbell as well,
Speaker 1: the guys who are lengthy. That's that I think that
Speaker 1: is the question for tomorrow is is there a cornerback
Speaker 1: that they're convinced that they have to come away with
Speaker 1: or are they more willing to just sort of let
Speaker 1: it play itself out. And me, maybe that's inherent by
Speaker 1: us on my part, but we've been hammering cornerback for
Speaker 1: the last four months. Yeah, and so I have a
Speaker 1: hard time and uh, you know, in the press conference
Speaker 1: just now they even said, like, you know, we were
Speaker 1: pretty disappointed to see the corners go as quick and
Speaker 1: like if the success Yeah, and we knew it and
Speaker 1: they did the right thing. Moving back was the right
Speaker 1: thing to do. Yeah. Oh, I agree with that. At
Speaker 1: the time it was the right thing, especially if they
Speaker 1: tried to move back again. I don't have a ton
Speaker 1: of beef with what they did. To be honest with you,
Speaker 1: like you can argue that they should have taken Rashaun's
Speaker 1: later if you want to, and I don't disagree with you,
Speaker 1: but they knew they needed to address their defense. I
Speaker 1: guarantee you. Maybe he isn't the top grade they said
Speaker 1: he was. He's one of the top two or three
Speaker 1: grades on their board. I promise you that. Well, if
Speaker 1: I've gave you us, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. No, And
Speaker 1: well they got an extra day to pick for it. So,
Speaker 1: like you know, I don't. It's not the play or
Speaker 1: any of us would have preferred they take. But I
Speaker 1: don't have a ton of issue with what they did.
Speaker 1: So they got eighty four from Philly to move back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if I told you I could put seventy five and
Speaker 1: eighty four together and that could get you in the
Speaker 1: fifty one fifty two range, who are you thinking? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I'm I'm gonna try to double to forty
Speaker 1: five and fifty one. I'm gonna forty four and fifty one.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait see what I can get. But then
Speaker 1: I'm kind of guaranteeing. We're not guaranteeing, but I'm I'm
Speaker 1: giving myself a good chance to save myself and get
Speaker 1: an outside corner. If I don't get one at forty four,
Speaker 1: I've got forty four. I think I'm holding out for
Speaker 1: Merrick or Richie Grant. Okay maybe, and if Barmore falls
Speaker 1: in your lap, you kind of got to do that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a guy that we thought, you know,
Speaker 1: starting at like pick sixteen, I was expecting we were
Speaker 1: talking about, I mean, top players available in order, Coamoa,
Speaker 1: then Barmore, probably Olari's knee. We gotta we gonna take
Speaker 1: him out of there. Then Marrick, then Richie Grant like that,
Speaker 1: Like there's some good players left. I'm not liking love
Speaker 1: with any of the corners that are left in terms
Speaker 1: of you know, what they what they think they might want.
Speaker 1: It should be fun, man, Oh it's gonna be a block.
Speaker 1: You guys have fun. There's no doubt about. Oh. We're
Speaker 1: gonna miss you, Katie. We loved having you here. Tonight.
Speaker 1: I'll be listening to you guys while I sit on
Speaker 1: my couch and drink Miller Lite. Send texts, just harass
Speaker 1: us for whatever We're well before we go, let's go,
Speaker 1: ahead run through what happened in that first round just
Speaker 1: for those of you who may or may not be
Speaker 1: joining us after seeing some of the coverage here real
Speaker 1: quick and the other thing too, like we get so
Speaker 1: fixated on what the Cowboys need to do. You know,
Speaker 1: Elijah Moore is still sitting there, Rondelle Moore is still
Speaker 1: sitting there. Terrace Marshall, like, not everybody picking in front
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys is gonna want a defender. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: good point. We're looking at the top ten picks before
Speaker 1: the Cowboys keep going, Dave, No, that's basically it. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, the odds are in their favor that a
Speaker 1: guy they like will be there. I just wonder if
Speaker 1: they want to take that risk that they see if
Speaker 1: they fall off, they get robbed again. That's basically what
Speaker 1: happened tonight, which very well could happen. There's the top
Speaker 1: nine picks that happened in front of the Cowboys. The
Speaker 1: biggest note, at least for those Cowboys fans out there,
Speaker 1: Carolina draft JC Horn first corner and first defender off
Speaker 1: the board, and then right after that, cornerback Patricks for
Speaker 1: ten out of Alabama goes to Denver back to back
Speaker 1: blows for the Cowboys, which brought them to pick number ten.
Speaker 1: Guess what they traded out. They got pick number eighty
Speaker 1: four in exchange for the tenth overall pick with Philadelphia
Speaker 1: to slide back a couple of spots. With that tiph pick,
Speaker 1: DeVante Smith goes to Philadelphia. The Giants pick Justin Fields
Speaker 1: as their quarterback. Or excuse me, that's not the Giants
Speaker 1: that made that pick. It's the Bears that made. The
Speaker 1: Giants ended up trading back all the way to twenty.
Speaker 1: Dallas takes Micah Parsons and then Slater goes one pick later.
Speaker 1: Those were the two players that were really being debated
Speaker 1: through other notes. Jam and Davis goes to Washington twenty one.
Speaker 1: The Giants take Kid Harry as Tony with that pick
Speaker 1: that they traded out of eleven. Caleb Farley, the injured cornerback,
Speaker 1: goes twenty two overall to the Tennessee Titans. That's a
Speaker 1: fun one to think about. A shocker. At twenty eight.
Speaker 1: We thought New Orlean was tabbed with a corner. We
Speaker 1: thought that there was going to be a corner there. Instead,
Speaker 1: they go with the edge rusher Peyton Turner, which Katie,
Speaker 1: I know that surprised you. They're not afraid to go
Speaker 1: small school. You remember they traded up a few years
Speaker 1: ago for Marcus Davenport. Yeah, so day yeah, Stokes. You
Speaker 1: know that's the thing that stokes at twenty nine to
Speaker 1: Green to Green Bay. The lengthy corner that we're kind
Speaker 1: of talking about. One more off the board, the length
Speaker 1: in the athleticism, which yeah, I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people saw him as a Day two guy, but it
Speaker 1: seemed like there was enough smoke about him sneaking into
Speaker 1: round one. Wait, although I you know he's good man,
Speaker 1: he and but Calvin Joseph didn't And a lot of
Speaker 1: people were talking about Calvin Joseph as a Day one
Speaker 1: guy too, So it all equals out in the end. Hey, baby,
Speaker 1: he's a potential target at forty four. I think he
Speaker 1: could fall a little bit. That would be fun. And
Speaker 1: then a trio of edge rushers to end out the
Speaker 1: first round as you've got Buffalo, Baltimore, Tampa Bay going
Speaker 1: with Russo away and try on a fun little trio
Speaker 1: to endo out and then thirty three tomorrow Jacksonville back
Speaker 1: on the clock, followed by the Jets and Atlanta want
Speaker 1: to thank everybody for being a part of our first
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Speaker 1: gonna miss you tomorrow. Have fun over the course of
Speaker 1: the weekend, like you said, drinking that Miller light on
Speaker 1: your cat. I have a Bruskie for me, but yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss you guys too. I wish I could
Speaker 1: do it, But that's all right. You guys are gonna
Speaker 1: be in good hands. And then as you guys are
Speaker 1: gonna bring into fighting, because here comes brought us in
Speaker 1: Cavanaugh to the mix. Yeah, so it's gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get I'm bringing my boxing glad. Yeah, we fun. It
Speaker 1: was amicable tonight because we're all reasonable people, and so
Speaker 1: the fighting will start tomorrow, I'm sure. Yeah. Well, it's
Speaker 1: also starting to become into the Scouts territory. First round
Speaker 1: picks kind of go either as planned or close to
Speaker 1: us plan. And now tomorrow things are gonna hit the wall.
Speaker 1: If Brian doesn't come in here tomorrow with a plan
Speaker 1: to trade up, I'm gonna be severely surprised. Well, you
Speaker 1: said plans are are well, he said it at the
Speaker 1: beginning from Dwight d. Eisenhower. Plans are only so much right.
Speaker 1: That's a great point. So hey, you could say that
Speaker 1: against him if you want to tie a bow around it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go. Of course, Dave Brugler will be back
Speaker 1: with us all tomorrow and then all of Saturday along
Speaker 1: with Jeff Cavanaugh and Brian brought us there. You see
Speaker 1: back in the war room, a live look is sure
Speaker 1: there's gonna be conversations throughout the night. So the Cowboys
Speaker 1: hold four picks. Tomorrow they picked up another one with
Speaker 1: that trade with Philadelphia. We will be here for it
Speaker 1: starting at six o'clock on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and
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Speaker 1: want to thank everybody again for all of their hard work,
Speaker 1: Chris Being, Matt Kent, Aaron Gonzalez, the entire crew all
Speaker 1: in the studio, not even just tonight, but really their
Speaker 1: preparation all the way for the draft. You're gonna be
Speaker 1: the bene beneficiaries of it, the listeners at home, the
Speaker 1: viewers at home, of some of their great work throughout
Speaker 1: the weekend, and they of course knocked it out of
Speaker 1: the park again tonight. I want to thank Kevin kt
Speaker 1: Turner for being a part of it. We'll hear from
Speaker 1: him soon as I'm sure we'll do a draft show
Speaker 1: next week to wrap things up for David hellman, I'm
Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman's We'll see you tomorrow, six pm Central Time.
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