WEBVTT - OCTOBER LONDON - South Bend Struggle & Mozzarella Melodies

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have very

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<v Speaker 1>special guests. I want him to sing a little something

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<v Speaker 1>before I introduce you. By the way, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>do a plan words. I kept calling, calling, not you,

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<v Speaker 1>but your publicists, begging, pleading, come on, let's make it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get October in the studio. Damn, I just said to.

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<v Speaker 2>And you should have just called me.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know you could do that. I didn't start

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<v Speaker 1>into the DM was like that, Start making your ramen.

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<v Speaker 2>Start making this ramen. This is I actually call this

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<v Speaker 2>dish the South Bend Struggles. I'm from South in Indiana,

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<v Speaker 2>so always good old before I open it, and always

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<v Speaker 2>breaking in fours?

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<v Speaker 1>Does there have to be fours or you just break

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<v Speaker 1>it up?

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<v Speaker 2>I have OCD has to be eating not three years

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<v Speaker 2>or it can be two. But then I feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>are you serious?

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<v Speaker 3>You really have OCD A little bit, not like crazy

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<v Speaker 3>like I have to touch microphones or something like fourteen times,

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<v Speaker 3>but not like that, not that bad, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just you know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Type of stuff. Poor. Then oh yeah, this is yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the bully that we're gonna use for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I was gonna have you on these, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to burn your fingertails.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, for sure. You know that works. That works.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to have that up.

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<v Speaker 1>In there, and you gotta make two.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>You're cooking for you and yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. I'm used to nobody wanting to eating it.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>I set them, used to nobody wanting to eat.

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<v Speaker 1>This ramen that you may how scary.

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<v Speaker 2>Son. Only my son's like, oh my god, I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody else is just I don't know how old is

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<v Speaker 2>your son?

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<v Speaker 1>Eight?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but he's bouchie, so I'm surprised that he wants

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<v Speaker 2>to eat it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. I feel like the younger kids, they believe in you,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're a superhero no matter what you make.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's very true, you know, but I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it. It's water. I'm actually gonna need a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more, but more, Yeah for sure, Oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna need it, trust me.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I am terrified.

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<v Speaker 2>Trust you're gonna need more.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, all right, all right, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Then that go to the microwave. I don't do it

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<v Speaker 2>on the I don't do it on the stove. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't put anything in it, nothing like that. Obviously, put

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<v Speaker 2>in the microwave, and I do it for dope. Wait wait,

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<v Speaker 2>wait wait, I do it for ten minutes, ten minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>ten minutes. I gotta hit this thirty second button a

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<v Speaker 2>few times.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't explode in the microwave, but that heat.

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<v Speaker 2>Nope.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you put a lid on yours at home?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Really, ten minutes, that's gonna be mush for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>No, well it's not really, No, it won't be. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the it's the cheese part that makes everybody look at

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<v Speaker 2>it and be like really, and I'm just like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's melted.

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<v Speaker 1>Will happened to you?

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<v Speaker 2>One day?

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<v Speaker 1>You put it in too long? And you said, hmm,

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<v Speaker 1>I like.

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<v Speaker 2>This, that might have been. That might have been that actually,

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<v Speaker 2>that actually might have been I might have put it in.

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<v Speaker 2>Chel was like, oh for I forgot, and I was like, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>You were like, it's the last pack of ramens. So

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I'm just gonna work with it.

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<v Speaker 2>And also, I was a big fan of chicken noodle

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<v Speaker 2>soup when I was a kid. I would always eat

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<v Speaker 2>it like that. So when other people would make me ramen.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, these noodles aren't done, They're not Oh you

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<v Speaker 1>want this to be soup.

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<v Speaker 2>I want no, I don't want to be soup. I

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<v Speaker 2>want the noodle to be the consistency of a chicken

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<v Speaker 2>noodle soup that has to be a salt like.

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<v Speaker 1>Think I've ate a lot of chicken noodle soup. I

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<v Speaker 1>barely remember what chicken noodle soup.

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<v Speaker 2>See.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm also Jamaican, and Jamaicans they make everything from scratch.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, my mom make the dumplings, the whole

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<v Speaker 1>and everything. I don't know if I've ever had it

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<v Speaker 1>really in the can see, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna take you, you know, take you to a place

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<v Speaker 2>you need to be with the noodles. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. I got you.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell everybody what else is going in this ramen dish.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So in this South Bend struggle, I put butter

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<v Speaker 2>in it, just you know, softening the flavor, all that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff. You know. I gotta put the chicken

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<v Speaker 2>pack in there that comes with it, pepper, some seasoned salt, lowries.

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<v Speaker 1>In addition to the seasoning pack, in.

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<v Speaker 2>Addition to garlic, salt, or you can do garlic powder

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<v Speaker 2>if you want, and sometimes I do both. So you

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<v Speaker 2>got And then the last ingredient is mozzarella cheese.

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<v Speaker 1>And where does the butter come in?

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<v Speaker 2>The butter comes in once I take the noodles out

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<v Speaker 2>add the cheese.

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<v Speaker 1>I am afraid and inspired by this ramen, just just

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<v Speaker 1>when you thought ramen couldn't get any worse, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>But hopefully, hopefully this makes it in my top because

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<v Speaker 1>I told you earlier, there's like I've had enough ramen

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to you know, I'm hoping you yea

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<v Speaker 1>last so because I've had someone do ramen and I

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<v Speaker 1>literally ended like this is the worst ramen in the

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<v Speaker 1>history for rameny, but just so much onions.

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<v Speaker 2>It was oh no, no, yeah, I've heard of other

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<v Speaker 2>things getting added to ramen and all that kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't know jalapenos. I've never done that, but

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<v Speaker 2>that that wouldn't bother me. I don't think. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to think if that would. I like the way mine is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just set just right for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, And.

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot actually one ingredient, but it's okay, what is it?

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<v Speaker 2>It was a parsley flakes I like color on it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm into?

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<v Speaker 2>Now? Fresh?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do fresh?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm lazy that it will.

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<v Speaker 1>It will change your life and it lasted your fridge

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<v Speaker 1>for a while, as long as you keep it dry.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't get like fresh, Dell fresh, oregano, fresh, parsley,

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<v Speaker 1>all of it. And then like you know when you

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<v Speaker 1>shaw tell your butter and garlic. Really, I promise you

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<v Speaker 1>changes the game.

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<v Speaker 2>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>I learned it from this show.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's soothing to you, Just no, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Learned it from this show. One of the guests on

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<v Speaker 1>here cooked with it, and she was like, it was

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<v Speaker 1>the fresh ingredients that made it taste different. I need

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be learning tips, you know, just be teaching me

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<v Speaker 1>how to cook.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I need to try it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna try this mozzarella. May go home and end

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<v Speaker 1>up eating this for a couple of days because I

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<v Speaker 1>like it. Yeah, I don't think I will, because this

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<v Speaker 1>seems like it's gonna be very much. I like geese.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I love mozzarella cheese on like spaghetti,

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of it.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be in your top five at least.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't see. We don't see. I don't even think

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<v Speaker 1>we need a second bowl. We could share your bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>You just pour some a it'll be enough.

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<v Speaker 2>The noodles will be puffy enough. That's where you want

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<v Speaker 2>to get it too, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, bring it on out, bring it all out,

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<v Speaker 1>bring them out, bring them mouth. Oh it's hot, do.

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<v Speaker 2>That thing hot? Yeah. See, at this point you might

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<v Speaker 2>say they're either perfect or they're like or they're a

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<v Speaker 2>little overcooked, right or maybe not? So what look how

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<v Speaker 2>they look now? Right? So people would eat them like that?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I was expecting more mush.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, no, no, no, but remember I'm about to put it

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<v Speaker 2>back in there for another ten what why? Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>how I cook it. I cook it for twenty minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's twenty minute, ramin.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you joking?

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<v Speaker 2>I swear that's what I was saying. I told you so,

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<v Speaker 2>I swear to you.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So with what?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So with this? Now, take some butter, put it

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<v Speaker 2>up in there. I'll let it, but I put it

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<v Speaker 2>in there now. Sorry, so I can put the butter

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<v Speaker 2>in there, it'll mouth whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute pause. You cooked it for ten minutes? Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're saying that you're gonna do what you do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do what I do. Put not all the stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Montrelle is the last thing, okay, and then I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>put it back in there for ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's like a whole go ahead, educate used. This

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<v Speaker 1>will be the most memorable. We're gonna call this episode

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<v Speaker 1>the longest ramen of your life. You can't be starving

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<v Speaker 1>and you go to October's house and he'd be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna cook you some rum and you I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be better. I'll make a spaghetti.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm no man.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's see this. Okay, put the butter in.

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<v Speaker 2>I put the butter in.

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<v Speaker 1>Starting to look mushy. Okay, no, it's not cloudy.

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<v Speaker 2>Put your chicken. Oh yes, definitely cloudy. Put your chicken

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<v Speaker 2>pack in there, all right? And after that, some pepper.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll throw some pepper in there now, okay, just a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit, though, I'll put some more. It comes back out.

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<v Speaker 2>Start this up, get it right, get it even. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>You're hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I love making this. This is so fun for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you like everyone's reaction.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I don't cook at home, no cooking home. I

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<v Speaker 2>took it out every day.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what it's. But what there's so many things.

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<v Speaker 1>You probably tried that one to say, Man, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>belong in a kitchen.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I no I cooked. I just don't cook

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<v Speaker 2>on the stove a lot. I'll make ramen, boiled eggs,

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like that, or scrambled eggs, something like that on

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<v Speaker 2>the stove. After that, I don't do nothing. No, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't see me cooking pasta. I'll get on the grill though. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm outside grill.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see how well you see it though, because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I feel like it. Whatever you make it

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<v Speaker 1>home could be very salty.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not at all, you would think so, because we

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<v Speaker 2>have the chicken pack in there added some lowries.

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<v Speaker 1>You were very very nice with the lorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, you don't want to You don't want to overdo it.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't love overseason like a crazy person. But my food

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<v Speaker 1>tastes good. But I'll tell you this. My daughter, who's three,

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<v Speaker 1>she's been every time I cook, she runs up and

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<v Speaker 1>she'll go do do do do, and she'll grab a

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<v Speaker 1>seasoning and run off to her little kitchen. And the

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<v Speaker 1>other day she took the all of the lorries like

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<v Speaker 1>dump the whole thing in her little season She must

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<v Speaker 1>think all I do is play with seasonings all day,

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<v Speaker 1>because all she does is run up. She grabs her

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<v Speaker 1>little stool and just steal seasonings.

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<v Speaker 2>She gets to watch you cook. I'll make all these

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<v Speaker 2>great dishes, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The other day she's like, I'm cooking for my

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<v Speaker 1>for Kingston.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, oh, cooking for Kingston. Who's Kingston? Exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>The neighbor next.

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<v Speaker 2>Door, like a hole. So I've added the seasonings.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, no mozzarella, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>No mozzarella. So I've added the butter and the chicken pack,

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<v Speaker 2>the garlic, garlic powder, some little bit of garlic salt,

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<v Speaker 2>some lowries, and some pepper, which I'll add some more

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<v Speaker 2>pepper in a minute. And now I'm gonna put it

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<v Speaker 2>back in the microwave. I know Jamie is back there rolling,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna add it another ten minutes to it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is insane.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. Oh. You're gonna love it. I absolutely love it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna be like, oh my god, I have to

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<v Speaker 2>make this once a week, once a week.

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<v Speaker 1>Once a week, I could cook a whole chicken meal.

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<v Speaker 1>So take me back to what was going on during

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<v Speaker 1>this twenty minute ramen?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, well, you know it was. It was a struggle obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, now I'm signed to death Row, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>shout out to Snoop Dogg, of course, and you know

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing all this stuff now, But before all that,

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<v Speaker 2>it was that struggle, like every other artist, man just selling.

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<v Speaker 2>I was selling CDs out out of this van that

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<v Speaker 2>me and my boy used to drive called Big Shirley.

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<v Speaker 2>So he used to drive that and pass out CD

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to DeMarco Black.

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<v Speaker 1>This was this was when CDs people had CD players, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, yeah, I mean you're taking out the deck you

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<v Speaker 2>know what was it, the Kinwood deck man? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're right this time. I mean, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're fifteen taking back to fifteen year old.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifteen year old me trying to figure it out, trying

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<v Speaker 2>to write and everything, and you know, I'm in and

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<v Speaker 2>out of jobs or whatnot, just trying to find out

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<v Speaker 2>which job was the right job for me. And I

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<v Speaker 2>had three jobs at one time. I was detailing cars,

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<v Speaker 2>I was I was trying to sell cars at one point,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I was working at Steak and Shake at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time. So I was trying to find.

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<v Speaker 1>Myself while going to high school all of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, it was a hustler and you had dreams.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I had dreams I needed. I always had

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<v Speaker 2>that drive to get you know, get to it and

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<v Speaker 2>get after it. So you know, I'm at home trying

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<v Speaker 2>to figure it out, what's the next step, trying to

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<v Speaker 2>make it. No, I was only making what steaking shake?

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<v Speaker 2>I was getting paid like what, three four hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I was bawling every week, you know, So

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, hell, yeah, you know. But in the

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<v Speaker 2>midst of that, I'm hungry. I'm like, oh, gon, make

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<v Speaker 2>me some ramen. And I don't know where along the

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<v Speaker 2>lines where I started making it for twenty minutes. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot about it at one point, but I just

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<v Speaker 2>really enjoyed it. And I was like, you know, this

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<v Speaker 2>reminds me of chicken noodle soup. I was a chicken

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<v Speaker 2>noodle soup head when I was a kid, So I

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<v Speaker 2>like the consistency of the noodle pause.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you gotta pause because I'm trying. I'm trying. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying not to judge you. I'm praying to Jesus that

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<v Speaker 1>are we got two seconds? Good pause timing. Yes, we be

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<v Speaker 1>about to eat. We're about to eat some mashed potatoes

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<v Speaker 1>mixed with mozzarella and cheese.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's go. It's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna judge it really hard, guys, and keep it

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<v Speaker 1>all the way real.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're not done yet. We still have to put

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<v Speaker 2>stuff on it. You think it'd be done all the

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<v Speaker 2>way now, all the noodles are. I could have made

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<v Speaker 2>it better.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see this mashed potatoes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not it's like it's almost like a pasta. So

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<v Speaker 2>you see how it still has a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>water in it. It's supposed to be like that because

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<v Speaker 2>if it was dried out, it'll been messed up.

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<v Speaker 1>And no, god, no, we can't. We would never eat.

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<v Speaker 1>We would never eat. Did you ever make this for

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<v Speaker 1>Snoop Dogg?

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<v Speaker 2>No, but I think he would really enjoy it. Matter

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<v Speaker 2>of fact, I'm think I would make it for him.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, and I'm record it. Send it to me, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I would, please.

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<v Speaker 2>I would close your microwave. But it's really hot now

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<v Speaker 2>it's been running for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it really that hot?

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, it's fine, it's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, now let's just see it. Let's see if there's

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<v Speaker 1>a really you're hilarious, that's like a twenty dollars microwave too,

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<v Speaker 1>Probably couldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go next door get her, get her a new microwave.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so it's look, I mean the consistency of

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<v Speaker 2>a Look at the noodle. Now it's soft, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you don't need to you don't need teeth. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't need teeth. Break out the straws. Everybody, your grandparents,

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<v Speaker 1>get your great grandparents could eat this dish.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>If you ever have a jaw break, this is the meal.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, here we go this and now we want to

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<v Speaker 2>we want to finish it off. Okay, first off, I

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<v Speaker 2>did say that I was gonna add a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more pepper. That's the only thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't even sample to see it this season.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I don't need to know. I already know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pure perfection. Okay, pure.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to try this mashed potatoes and cheese. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. Let's see.

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<v Speaker 2>It depends on how much cheese you want, but I

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<v Speaker 2>would probably go let's see, I think that's.

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<v Speaker 1>All the cheesey doing Okay, let's see. Look the cheese

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<v Speaker 1>melts it right into the gravy.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, actually no, this is not enough cheese for me.

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<v Speaker 2>This not for me. I want you to make it

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<v Speaker 2>how I would make it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we want to eat it the way you would

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<v Speaker 1>because we're gonna see if this will ever make it

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<v Speaker 1>into the top thirty all time.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you it's gonna make it. It's gonna make it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>to see I need it just a little bit cheesier

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<v Speaker 2>I needed to. Yeah that should be good. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is just gonna be amazing. I mean, look at it.

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<v Speaker 2>You could really serve this, like.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you was back. They're plotting on how

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<v Speaker 1>to uh make the worst eating while broke dish, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, I'm going to make twenty minute ramen

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<v Speaker 1>with some cheese.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh definitely not.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it looks gooey. It looks like some really

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<v Speaker 1>gooey mashed potatoes. Now see yeah, I'm joking. It looks

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<v Speaker 1>like very it's gonna be it's I'm surprised you're using

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<v Speaker 1>a fork and out of spoon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you use a fork. Look at the cheese on

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<v Speaker 2>the fork.

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<v Speaker 1>Look you serve me up here?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, come on, get some of that. Get some of

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<v Speaker 2>that that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, that's I want to get the h That's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jamaican. Okay, wet cow stomachs and tails.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a cow stom mix and tails. Look at the cheese.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at that. Just absolutely beautiful. I'll just I'll just

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<v Speaker 2>put a little bit in there just so you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hook me up, I eat hook you Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's enough. That's enough of your I'll tell you this.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks good.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. See but wen't see that's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>cheese though. Here.

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<v Speaker 1>You can have this fork. I'll take that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, you take

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<v Speaker 2>that for it because you have to.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, looks guys presentation.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the I do agree. You could have done

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<v Speaker 1>the parsley on top.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the party on top. Yeah yeah, yeah, the parsley

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<v Speaker 2>on top really adds the color. It's not that bad,

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<v Speaker 2>is it? Go ahead say exactly, you're right, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that great.

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<v Speaker 2>Serve this up to snoop please, no, I'm telling you this.

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<v Speaker 2>This got me through.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, this is a one and done. If all

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<v Speaker 1>start one and done, this is like what happens when

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<v Speaker 1>you don't cook at home. All right, So okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing this music on the side. What was the

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<v Speaker 1>original inspiration? When did you start to realize you wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to pursue music.

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to get my writing right at fifteen,

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen seventeen. I was still working, wasn't really going in

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<v Speaker 2>like that. But when I turned eighteen, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I really want to do this. Started going

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<v Speaker 2>to my friend's house, my friend Travis's house. I started

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<v Speaker 2>doing fruity loops. It was a program that you make beats,

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<v Speaker 2>so I didn't even really want to sing that much.

0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:23.600
<v Speaker 2>I was just like, man, I can start making beats.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be like Timblin, you know, stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and then started to sing. And then I saw on TV.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually came over over Travis's house and it messed

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<v Speaker 2>me up because he was like, oh man, look it's

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<v Speaker 2>this light skined do with braids just like you. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>killing it on TV is killing you. I'm a competitive person.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I started to sing even more so that was

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<v Speaker 2>tray songs.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, okay, okay, okay.

0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:49.159
<v Speaker 2>I think it was just got to make it or something. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>it might have dropped.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, so you start doing music, you graduate high school,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your next big play?

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<v Speaker 2>Next big play is trying to find a way into

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<v Speaker 2>the music industry. I didn't know. I didn't know what

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<v Speaker 2>to do. I just knew the slang CDs and go

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<v Speaker 2>to bars and try to do little shows, you know, like, oh,

0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:10.119
<v Speaker 2>sing one song, not karaoke or anything like that. I

0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:12.680
<v Speaker 2>never liked karaoke, but I just wanted to go sing

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<v Speaker 2>in front of a crowd and just see how that felt.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're all doing this still in Indiana.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, just hitting different bars in Indiana.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, and your parents are now onto you. Nope,

0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.199
<v Speaker 1>they're not onto you. You're keeping the seagrut.

0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:25.720
<v Speaker 2>No, they just think I'm going to hang out with

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<v Speaker 2>my friends.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you have siblings, anybody in the family know

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on.

0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:33.399
<v Speaker 2>Maybe two, But they were on they were doing other stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>so I didn't. They didn't pay no attention to her, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you're just doing whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a reason why you weren't telling anybody?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I just I don't know. I just didn't tell anybody.

0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:42.040
<v Speaker 2>I didn't think I was that good like that. So

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I don't know if I want to

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<v Speaker 2>do it or you know. It wasn't until, like I said,

0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:47.480
<v Speaker 2>I was eighteen where I was like, maybe I really

0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:49.240
<v Speaker 2>should do this, but I don't know yet. I don't

0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:50.959
<v Speaker 2>want to tell anybody and get every because then they

0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:53.639
<v Speaker 2>want to come to the shows. And it wasn't. Then

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<v Speaker 2>it makes me nervous at that point, I'm nervous, Nelly.

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<v Speaker 1>But now you're approaching the bars yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, with other friends that are older. So I'm getting

0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:05.440
<v Speaker 2>into these bars and doing that. But you know, bar

0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:07.160
<v Speaker 2>was cool with us and all that kind of stuff.

0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:10.600
<v Speaker 1>So you start performing. When do you start to really

0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:12.040
<v Speaker 1>believe in yourself?

0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:16.040
<v Speaker 2>Probably twenty twenty one something like that.

0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Was there something in particular that happened that made you go, oh,

0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I think I have something here.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I can't remember. I don't think so. I

0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:27.040
<v Speaker 2>think I was just I think I just started to

0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:29.080
<v Speaker 2>progress a little bit more and started to meet more people.

0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:32.360
<v Speaker 2>And the more people I met, I was like, oh, well,

0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:34.640
<v Speaker 2>they like it. This person likes it, and he's close

0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:37.320
<v Speaker 2>to this guy that's five degrees of separation from that guy.

0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:39.639
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I should keep going. Yeah, okay, And then that

0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:41.919
<v Speaker 2>just kept going from there, and I still started to

0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:44.520
<v Speaker 2>meet different people, my boy Mike Letter, which I wrote

0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:48.639
<v Speaker 2>several songs with or whatnot. So you know, I just

0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:52.680
<v Speaker 2>it was just the constant going and finding different people

0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:53.080
<v Speaker 2>to talk to.

0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:55.280
<v Speaker 1>And then while all this is going on, you're still

0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:56.399
<v Speaker 1>working multiple jobs.

0:20:56.720 --> 0:21:01.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yep, I'm still working multiple jobs. Until jeez, when

0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:06.720
<v Speaker 2>was that? That was? Time has gone by so fast?

0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:08.720
<v Speaker 2>Because that was what I was fifteen. That might have

0:21:08.760 --> 0:21:11.640
<v Speaker 2>been two thousand and eight, so we're talking maybe two

0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:14.560
<v Speaker 2>thousand and fourteen or something like that. I don't know,

0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:16.879
<v Speaker 2>it's time's been going by so fast. And I think

0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:19.000
<v Speaker 2>about I never sat here and thought about how long

0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:20.840
<v Speaker 2>it's been since I actually started.

0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:23.240
<v Speaker 1>Since you actually started, or when do you started to

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<v Speaker 1>like actually one hundred percent go into.

0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:28.600
<v Speaker 2>No, since I just started writing, like at fifteen and

0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:30.680
<v Speaker 2>being like, whoa, it's been a minute.

0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:33.080
<v Speaker 1>That's a long time. But even at fifteen, you don't

0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:35.520
<v Speaker 1>see the average fifteen year olds saying, Okay, I'm going

0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:38.720
<v Speaker 1>to start writing songs unless they kind of call a

0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:42.120
<v Speaker 1>cliffhanger of someone else's story, like oh, you can make money,

0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:43.560
<v Speaker 1>especially it seems like money.

0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh. Star Kelly R. Kelly was the one that really

0:21:46.040 --> 0:21:47.760
<v Speaker 2>pushed me to like do me like I was just

0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:49.000
<v Speaker 2>his writing style was cold.

0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:52.520
<v Speaker 1>It was amazing, It was amazing. I remember I remember

0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:55.240
<v Speaker 1>seeing some of his music going. I had never seen

0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:58.159
<v Speaker 1>anything like it before. It's really the Isley Brothers. I

0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:00.520
<v Speaker 1>was a little late, obviously, I'm yeah.

0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:00.800
<v Speaker 2>It was.

0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:04.800
<v Speaker 1>It was when they did that, I was like, oh shit, yeah,

0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:09.080
<v Speaker 1>this musical on wheels is crazy. It's crazy good. Still

0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:11.760
<v Speaker 1>have the hooks in my head. Okay, okay, So you

0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:15.960
<v Speaker 1>see that you're getting inspired, you're pursuing writing and your

0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:20.119
<v Speaker 1>echine towards the promised land in towards it. Yeah, echine

0:22:20.160 --> 0:22:20.679
<v Speaker 1>towards it.

0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:23.120
<v Speaker 2>The term is step forward eight steps back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So give me an example of a four step

0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:30.240
<v Speaker 1>four like where you think you touched the land and

0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:31.639
<v Speaker 1>then landed right back.

0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:40.480
<v Speaker 2>Mmmm. That would have to be I want to say.

0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:44.199
<v Speaker 2>I want to say, I don't know what year it was,

0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:46.439
<v Speaker 2>but it might Oh no, it might have been like

0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:48.800
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, something like that.

0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:52.679
<v Speaker 2>The years are all bunched up, so I probably got

0:22:52.680 --> 0:22:55.600
<v Speaker 2>those wrong anyway, But whatever. I was with one of

0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:58.399
<v Speaker 2>my friends, Mike Letter, who lives in Miami where kicking

0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:01.000
<v Speaker 2>and we end up meeting in a circle who made

0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:03.760
<v Speaker 2>the bad Boy song, the you know, the off of

0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:06.400
<v Speaker 2>Cops or whatnot. And I'm just hanging around all these

0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:09.640
<v Speaker 2>people producers like d Nad which was you know, with

0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:13.199
<v Speaker 2>with other with other artists, and we got to call

0:23:13.280 --> 0:23:16.400
<v Speaker 2>that we're gonna go to Lenny kraviatt studio in Miami.

0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:18.320
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like that. It was the guy that works

0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:20.280
<v Speaker 2>with Lenny. I'm like, this is it. You know, we

0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:23.159
<v Speaker 2>we got all our songs, Like me and Mike are

0:23:23.200 --> 0:23:25.000
<v Speaker 2>gathering all these songs in a hard drive, like, no,

0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:27.000
<v Speaker 2>speck this one out. We're just like, no, he's gonna

0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:28.280
<v Speaker 2>love this one. He's gonna love this one. He's gonna

0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:31.720
<v Speaker 2>love this one. And we went there and the dude

0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:35.480
<v Speaker 2>was like, yeah, you got some potential, but you know,

0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:38.120
<v Speaker 2>you're like you might be like five to ten years off.

0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:41.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, to get on now.

0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Were you going over there to like sell him your

0:23:43.880 --> 0:23:47.600
<v Speaker 1>songs or to.

0:23:46.119 --> 0:23:48.640
<v Speaker 2>To get a song to Lenny and to get a deal.

0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:51.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, we get signed and be on a ten years.

0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:53.760
<v Speaker 1>That's that's not the response you're looking for.

0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:57.480
<v Speaker 2>I got that within the same week. Another person that

0:23:57.760 --> 0:23:59.840
<v Speaker 2>was working I think for Bad boy. At the time,

0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:01.760
<v Speaker 2>she said the same thing. She was like, yeah, I

0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:03.560
<v Speaker 2>think he needs development and it's going to be at

0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:04.320
<v Speaker 2>least ten years.

0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:08.720
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like Jesus, and how many years in the

0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:10.920
<v Speaker 1>game were you at that point? You were probably almost ten,

0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:15.400
<v Speaker 1>right at that point, No, fifteen, at least seven, right,

0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:19.000
<v Speaker 1>something like that. Seven Damn? Could you imagine seven years

0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:20.560
<v Speaker 1>and be like I got another ten to go?

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm like yo, I'm like, man, this is not it.

0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:26.760
<v Speaker 2>So I just crashed back all over again. Go back home,

0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:28.720
<v Speaker 2>go chill all the way back to it. Yeah, go

0:24:28.720 --> 0:24:31.560
<v Speaker 2>all the way back to Indiana, go back, get a job, restart.

0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Damn. I stopped that really knocked the going out yourself.

0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:37.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I stopped doing music for a while. Stop

0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:37.960
<v Speaker 2>doing music for man.

0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:41.919
<v Speaker 1>You know, my little brother is a comic. But I

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:45.399
<v Speaker 1>remember when he first started. I said to Ego, you

0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:47.680
<v Speaker 1>got to choose your ten. Even though it sounds like

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:51.719
<v Speaker 1>you chose your ten, but I noticed everybody industry like

0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:53.040
<v Speaker 1>they had to do their ten.

0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:54.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah they said ten thousand hours.

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well yeah, we're ten thousand hours. Yeah, that's that's

0:24:57.560 --> 0:25:03.240
<v Speaker 1>a better term. But I remember Gabby Wilson, remember her,

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:05.720
<v Speaker 1>I remember when she was a little girl. She's coming

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:10.160
<v Speaker 1>to our next studio, and she was like seven or eight,

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:13.520
<v Speaker 1>and she was so talented, and nobody knew what to

0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:15.520
<v Speaker 1>do with her, and she kept coming back. And then

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:17.320
<v Speaker 1>one day I turn on the TV and there she is.

0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what the heck? But it took her, like

0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 1>the animal, twenty years. But you don't know that it

0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:25.840
<v Speaker 1>takes that long. So you go all the way back.

0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:29.160
<v Speaker 1>They knocked the one out of your cell. What makes

0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:30.879
<v Speaker 1>you pick up again?

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Just not wanting to struggle, not wanting to do the

0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 2>job anymore. It got to the point where I wasn't

0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 2>keeping a job very long because I just hated it.

0:25:41.080 --> 0:25:42.159
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, dude, I don't want to do

0:25:42.200 --> 0:25:42.679
<v Speaker 2>this shit.

0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Do you think in the back of your mind you

0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:46.000
<v Speaker 1>got a taste of the promis Land? You got so

0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:48.160
<v Speaker 1>close that you couldn't like shake it.

0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:51.639
<v Speaker 2>And you know, went back at it again after a

0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:53.000
<v Speaker 2>couple of years or something like that.

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:53.680
<v Speaker 1>A couple of years.

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:55.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was like I was listening to music and

0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:55.880
<v Speaker 2>still studying.

0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:58.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, were you still playing in the studio,

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:00.320
<v Speaker 1>like still coming up with music or where.

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 2>You just a little bit a little bit. But as

0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 2>far as like me going full in. I'll knock the

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:05.040
<v Speaker 2>wind out of.

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:07.959
<v Speaker 1>Them, damn. Okay, so you start to get back up.

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I like this this the hero is Yeah, of course, okay,

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:14.680
<v Speaker 1>everyone does that. Okay, so you took a step back, Okay,

0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:18.120
<v Speaker 1>you come back. What brings you completely out of the closet?

0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Besides you hate the job?

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:25.359
<v Speaker 2>Uh? I just felt like, man, so many great R

0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:26.879
<v Speaker 2>and B artists, and I really wanted to be a

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 2>part of that story of music, like having my name

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:31.640
<v Speaker 2>in that. You know. I don't want to be better

0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:33.119
<v Speaker 2>than them or nothing like that. I just wanted to

0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:34.640
<v Speaker 2>be I'm competitive, yes.

0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:36.639
<v Speaker 1>But I like your competitive space.

0:26:36.680 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, no for yeah, it's bad, but you know,

0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I just want to be there. I want my name

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:44.399
<v Speaker 2>somewhere in that in that list, you know, for for

0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:47.439
<v Speaker 2>R and B or for any genre really. So I

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 2>just it was just the yearning of it. I And

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:51.720
<v Speaker 2>like I said, I didn't want to work any regular

0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 2>job anymore. I had great friends around me, like, no, man,

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:55.960
<v Speaker 2>you should really still do. They're playing my music in

0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:58.000
<v Speaker 2>their cars and I'm just like, oh, I stop playing

0:26:58.000 --> 0:27:01.280
<v Speaker 2>this ship like I'm not gonna get on and it's over. YadA, YadA, YadA,

0:27:01.280 --> 0:27:04.040
<v Speaker 2>all that shit. So what you know, end up leading

0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:06.560
<v Speaker 2>to me going into truck driving school.

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:08.120
<v Speaker 1>Truck driving school.

0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was about to be a truck driver.

0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:10.919
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, this.

0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:12.240
<v Speaker 2>Was now, this was two thousand dollars.

0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Could you imagine if you actually didn't come back, it'd

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:18.920
<v Speaker 1>be a waste of great talent behind the wheel.

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 2>I'd be eating cheetos and ramen mozzarella. Oh god, just

0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:23.680
<v Speaker 2>chewing away.

0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:27.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, driving Oh my god, thank god. I hope.

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Well you still eat mozzarella ramen.

0:27:29.600 --> 0:27:31.480
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I always gotta go back.

0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 1>No you don't. If there's one thing you ain't gotta do,

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 1>it's go back to mozzarella. Twenty minute ramen, go back,

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 1>go back. All right, so you come back, what's your

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:46.240
<v Speaker 1>This is twenty fifteen. Now it's twenty fifteen. Okay, okay,

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:51.000
<v Speaker 1>you're coming back, damn twenty fifteen. Yeah, I see. I

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 1>see how the road can be fast for you. Okay,

0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 1>So then you come back. What's your first play coming back?

0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:59.720
<v Speaker 2>Get a get an actual job, not like a well,

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 2>I want to say actual job, but you know, you

0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 2>have your stake and change over your stuff like that.

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:05.119
<v Speaker 2>But I was like, I need something that's going to

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:06.960
<v Speaker 2>pay me, you know, eighty to one hundred a year.

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:08.920
<v Speaker 2>That was my that was my goal.

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah.

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:12.520
<v Speaker 2>So I was like, well, I like driving. I like

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 2>being on the road a lot. I was always a

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:15.960
<v Speaker 2>road warrior. All my boys are like, we'll get in

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 2>the car and just drive like no problem. So it's

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 2>like I was like, well, I'm a car person. I

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:24.879
<v Speaker 2>don't mind trucks. Let me just try a truck driving school.

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:28.240
<v Speaker 2>And I was doing truck driving school.

0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Did you like it?

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 2>It's cool. I don't like the studying part. I hate that.

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 2>It was just a lot of I learned a lot,

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 2>so respect to the truck drivers, and I learned a lot.

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, you.

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Like I learned enough to know this job.

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Man. But I was almost about to graduate. I

0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 2>was maybe a couple of weeks or a week or

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 2>something like that from graduating. And then got the car

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 2>from Jazzy or I want to say, I got the car.

0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 2>My boy DeMarco Black rest in peace. He just passed

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 2>my That's my ace that I started in twenty fifteen with.

0:28:56.160 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 2>He had a connection and got me to do the

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 2>call with Jazzy, and Jazzy was taking my music to Snoop,

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 2>but I didn't know that, so I sent my music

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 2>to Jazzy. Jazzu was already going to meet with Snoop,

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:13.240
<v Speaker 2>so he went to go meet him and he was like, Yo,

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, I ran to this kid, he's out of Indiana.

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Let me play some of his music. He played some

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:18.120
<v Speaker 2>of my music, and he played one of my songs

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:21.479
<v Speaker 2>that sounded very Marvin Gay esque, and he loved it

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 2>and he was like, Okay, I'm gonna sign this kid.

0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 2>And then three months later, well, I quit truck driving.

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 2>After that, I was like, okay, this is the big break.

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like this this is off the word that he

0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 1>was going to sign you or off the eng This.

0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Is off the word I was. I was like, I'm

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 2>not peace. Jazzu was like, just sit tight through Christmas

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 2>and I was like okay, bet. So it got through

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:45.600
<v Speaker 2>twenty fifteen Christmas. January, I was getting nervous. I was like, Jazus,

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 2>we're still doing this right. He was like yeah, no,

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 2>it's a lot going on to holidays and you know

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 2>all that. I was like okay. February came and then

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Snoop called me and was just like before right, I

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:56.959
<v Speaker 2>think the day before the super Bowl and was like, yo,

0:29:57.320 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm definitely I definitely want to sign you. I want

0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 2>to get you out here while you're out here, and

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 2>I flew out March sixteenth, twenty sixteen.

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:05.240
<v Speaker 1>I love how you remember it. Why do you remember

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 1>that date?

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I just remember that I thought that

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 2>day was going to change my life.

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:10.720
<v Speaker 1>And was that your first time on the call with Snoop?

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you were like, oh shit, this is real.

0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 2>It's like real because he was like, oh, I'm a fan.

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm a fan of you, nephew.

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, do that in person.

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:22.920
<v Speaker 2>What's up, homies, it's a big homie Snoop dog, I'm

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:25.560
<v Speaker 2>a fan of you. Player Like all right, cool. I

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 2>was like, I didn't think it was really him at first.

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:29.440
<v Speaker 1>It was like a prank call from Jazz.

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 2>If they did it today, I'd have been like, that's

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 2>ai click no he I know.

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 1>So you get the call, you fly out. What's what's

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 1>the first experience?

0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:41.960
<v Speaker 2>March sixteenth, meeting him sitting in that lobby and just

0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:45.880
<v Speaker 2>looking around like the pictures of him and your doggy

0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 2>style and I'm just looking around like, man, this is

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 2>crazy and he comes out and he's a labor and

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:52.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm a laborer. So we just yo, what up? Man?

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:53.480
<v Speaker 2>What's like we knew each other.

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:56.640
<v Speaker 1>You weren't nervous at all? No, okay, did you wear

0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:57.000
<v Speaker 1>a suit?

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:01.440
<v Speaker 2>No? I didn't wear a suit, but I was probably

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 2>I probably was dressed, but I didn't wear a suit. No. No,

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go that hard. And he'd be like, oh,

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 2>I got a preacher or something you don't like. So

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 2>we went into the studio and the rest was history.

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:14.719
<v Speaker 2>He put on a beat, saw my work ethic, and

0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:16.680
<v Speaker 2>I just knocked out one song like that, and he

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 2>was like damn, okay, throwing another one, knock it out,

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 2>another one, knocked it out. It was like he was like, okay,

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 2>all right, you got the voice, you got the work ethic.

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 2>I see, but we'll just keep going. And in a

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:31.960
<v Speaker 2>week I did. Oh No, I did in three or

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 2>four days. I recorded the album that we're supposed to

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.160
<v Speaker 2>put out. I did eighteen songs in three or four days.

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Get the freak out.

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Did you already have your deal signed already or no?

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 2>I was still in process, But I was like I'm

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 2>going in. Yeah, I'm going the fuck in At this point,

0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm passionate about what I'm doing. I you know, feel

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 2>strongly about the way I'm writing and all that, and

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 2>he let me just have full autionomy. He was like, well,

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 2>call me when you're done. I was like, for real.

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:57.479
<v Speaker 2>I was like, this ain't how labels work. They used

0:31:57.480 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 2>to be on your We don't like this. What are

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 2>you feel like and going through like artist management and

0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 2>artist development and all that, and it's just like he

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 2>was just like, I love the first song that you did, man,

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 2>see if you can come up with another one. Came

0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:10.800
<v Speaker 2>up with another one within an hour. He was like,

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 2>what you didn't have you had that sitting. I was like, no, dude,

0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:15.760
<v Speaker 2>I just knock him out. And now I knocked out

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:18.240
<v Speaker 2>eighteen in three days. Got my I was actually sick

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:19.760
<v Speaker 2>after that. I was just stayed in the studio.

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:21.600
<v Speaker 1>I had no rest or nothing.

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 2>No rest or nothing. And he was like, dude, go

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:25.200
<v Speaker 2>back to the hotel, go rest Let me listen to

0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 2>these songs. And he was like, yeah, we got an

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 2>album and we put out color Blind.

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 2>We had to do a two part because it was

0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 2>you knows.

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 1>And then at what point was the deal done?

0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 2>Deal still wasn't. Well, the deal was done right before

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:39.680
<v Speaker 2>the album dropped yet, Okay, so then I'm signing and

0:32:39.680 --> 0:32:41.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, it's all. It's on to the races.

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Now. Did you have to on the business side, did

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 1>you have to like contact lawyers and do all that

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 1>or did you did you even know how to move

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 1>in that space because you're coming from truck.

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 2>We weren't even As a matter of fact, I now,

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 2>actually I have to go back because hold on a lot.

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Me and him never had a contract until death throw,

0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 2>so we went years of just handshake loyalty just to

0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 2>find out who you know, the loyal part. So I

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 2>forgot about that. So we didn't even have Mentally, I

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm signed to him mentally he was. So

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 2>that's why I'm like, oh, yeah, you know that was done.

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 1>To be honest, I like those deals better. Yeah, it's

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 1>like something about it.

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, was he gonna steal from me? I have ship?

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:18.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm broke. I'm broke.

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean Ramen, hopefully not Mozzarella Ramen.

0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't making it like, I wasn't making it this

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:28.640
<v Speaker 2>good that could it's good. Oh yeah, I was making

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 2>it the regular way, you know, the regular way was

0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 2>yeah done. Yeah, you gotta adkice to it. Yeah, be

0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:36.840
<v Speaker 2>sexy ramen?

0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, I know, absolutely not. You need to go

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 1>back to the classic ramen with just some butter and

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 1>call it today.

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 2>You can't do that.

0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:47.320
<v Speaker 1>I never knocked the butter in the ramen. I think

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 1>that's the secret. It makes it creamier. But okay, but

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:52.880
<v Speaker 1>that mozzarella.

0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 2>It was the butter.

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:55.440
<v Speaker 1>See.

0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 2>That's why I should be in the top five.

0:33:57.160 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 1>It should definitely be in the top ten. So going

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 1>back to the worst rum and you're not the worst.

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you right now, you're not the worst. I

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:12.719
<v Speaker 1>would do yours over the absolute worst. But you don't

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 1>like that cold mozzarella ball in your mouth? No, you know,

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, like no colds in your Okay. Uh so okay,

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:37.320
<v Speaker 1>So you and Snoop, you guys, you signed to him.

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:39.359
<v Speaker 1>What are your parents saying? I want to know, like

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 1>what your family is saying, what the people around you

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 1>are saying. During all of.

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 2>This, everybody's just like, this is it. They're hoping because

0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 2>they saw me go to the struggle. Yeah it's it. No,

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 2>it's not. Oh yeah yeah, no, hey damie, yo, this

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:53.080
<v Speaker 2>is it man. I'm on my way to never mind it,

0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 2>like they're just like Jesus Christ. I really hope.

0:34:56.640 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I can't see him trying out

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:00.759
<v Speaker 1>for cold air school next day.

0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:06.359
<v Speaker 2>I was like, yo, like color, I would have killed

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:07.320
<v Speaker 2>it in culinary school.

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:11.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, you would have killed something in culinary.

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 2>My pork chop surprise would have been a killer in

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 2>culinary school. And I don't even have a pork chop surprise.

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 2>But I'm making now.

0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 1>You don't make it now, it's.

0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:22.760
<v Speaker 2>Gonna be like it's gonna be stuffed with ramen. Cut it, open,

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 2>stuff it you.

0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:28.880
<v Speaker 1>If you belong in music, you belong in music. You

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:32.120
<v Speaker 1>belong in music. I can't even say if you should

0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:34.600
<v Speaker 1>know you belong in music. This is where you need

0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:37.640
<v Speaker 1>to be at that. And the styling of your dressing

0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:38.360
<v Speaker 1>is very nice.

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:38.720
<v Speaker 2>Thanks.

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:41.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, just stay out of the kitchen. Get you

0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:47.839
<v Speaker 1>a wife that I'll.

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:49.720
<v Speaker 2>Stay over there and kill some steak, though rib steak.

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 2>I can't cook chicken.

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:53.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna ask you a team if they would ever

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:55.839
<v Speaker 1>trust you to cook for them, they would.

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:57.359
<v Speaker 2>As long as I'm on the grill. Not They don't

0:35:57.360 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 2>want me to do nothing on the stove.

0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:03.960
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, he probably put mozzarella in mashed potatoes.

0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 2>If they saw me cooking on the stove, they would

0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:08.839
<v Speaker 2>probably leave immediately, or they'd just be like, yeah, we're good,

0:36:08.880 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 2>we'll order out. Yeah. But if they saw me on

0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:12.799
<v Speaker 2>a grid, they'd be like, okay, about to get down.

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:13.719
<v Speaker 2>They trust me there.

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:18.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't trust you there, but okay, I don't trust you.

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 2>All right.

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:22.880
<v Speaker 1>So you're doing your music, So tell me about some

0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:25.440
<v Speaker 1>of the highs, like the very first high of your career,

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:29.919
<v Speaker 1>after the signing, after the album's done, m what's the next?

0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 2>First album was first?

0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:34.479
<v Speaker 1>Because you have? Is it three?

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Now? Colorblind was a double Okay, it was a double disc.

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 2>But at that point, I mean, people are liking the album,

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 2>but we weren't really pushing it really hard. We just

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of wanted to see organically what it would do.

0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:50.440
<v Speaker 2>So it kind of I don't know. I was on

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:52.560
<v Speaker 2>the fence. I was like, do people like it? Like,

0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:55.279
<v Speaker 2>do people love it? I don't know. Maybe people don't

0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:56.960
<v Speaker 2>want to hear the type of music right now. So

0:36:57.040 --> 0:37:00.600
<v Speaker 2>at that point I'm just more nervous. I'm like, okay,

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:01.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm sign a snoop.

0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:05.120
<v Speaker 2>Mentally, you know, we're you know, we have this agreement,

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:08.279
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, why isn't anything going number one? Why

0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 2>isn't anything Like, Oh, I don't understand, Like is it

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:13.359
<v Speaker 2>people hated people and end up people actually loved it.

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:15.640
<v Speaker 2>I just didn't know. We didn't. We weren't really we

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:19.839
<v Speaker 2>wanted to see organically and it just worked out. No,

0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 2>nothing went number one, you know. No, it wasn't at

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:24.520
<v Speaker 2>the top of the charts, but it was like one

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:27.320
<v Speaker 2>of those underground things that felt yeah, where now people

0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:29.920
<v Speaker 2>know those songs so worked out?

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:33.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now you're being competitive. Did you feel that pressure

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:36.279
<v Speaker 1>of like, oh my gosh, I'm signed to Snoop? You

0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:39.879
<v Speaker 1>know these the people that he's worked with you did

0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 1>you play that? Did you play that in your brain

0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:42.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot?

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 2>Well, a little bit and not too much because I

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:46.840
<v Speaker 2>was like, he's a rapper, but if he was a singer,

0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:48.640
<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, oh boy, this's gonna be a problem.

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:50.680
<v Speaker 2>I really got to go. But is he's a rapper

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:52.480
<v Speaker 2>and he has these connections. I was like, I think

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:53.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm in a safe space, which.

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I was, Well, I feel like too, your style compared

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 1>to everybody else, is very unique. It's definitely sets apart,

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:01.799
<v Speaker 1>so you can't really say, oh, I'm competing with the

0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:04.920
<v Speaker 1>say Chris Brown or anybody else, because you you kind

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 1>of you very well own your lane.

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:09.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely. If I would have been in like the

0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 2>same lane or the same label as a Chris Brown

0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:16.720
<v Speaker 2>or just him alone, I'd have been like, Oh great,

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get shelved or I'm put this album. They're

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:21.440
<v Speaker 2>gonna go back to him, And I was like, it's

0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:23.239
<v Speaker 2>not gonna work out. So I was it was a

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:24.120
<v Speaker 2>great lane to be in.

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:26.520
<v Speaker 1>It was a great lane. Yeah, And I think for

0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:30.359
<v Speaker 1>death Row you definitely added a surprising element. And not

0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:33.600
<v Speaker 1>talking bad about death Row because I be honored to

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:36.759
<v Speaker 1>have Snoop, you know obviously, but you added a level

0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 1>of like, oh like level of like classic layer of

0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 1>all Man.

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 2>When he said I was gonna be the flagship for

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:46.200
<v Speaker 2>death Row, I was like, huh.

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 1>But you could see it. You could see like it

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:50.760
<v Speaker 1>to me, you you really bring something to that label.

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm just happy to be on it because I was like,

0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:57.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm you supposed to be signing like rappers to this label,

0:38:57.640 --> 0:38:59.160
<v Speaker 2>like you had Park and all that.

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Like, were you a little nervous too about like his direction?

0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:04.600
<v Speaker 1>Like obviously he was off hands. He lets you be you,

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:07.759
<v Speaker 1>But were you nervous like a rapper kind of?

0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:09.359
<v Speaker 2>No? No, No, he knew what he was doing.

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:12.359
<v Speaker 1>And you know he had good taste. He had good taste, right,

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:13.480
<v Speaker 1>good taste.

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:14.600
<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I'm saying?

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:17.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And he's a liver. You know, it's the best.

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, livers are the best, got it? Liverras and ramen. Okay,

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:25.400
<v Speaker 1>So take me. So you end up going on tour,

0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:26.959
<v Speaker 1>how was the tour?

0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Serenade tour with Maxwell and Jasmine Sullivan was amazing? Yeah,

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:32.799
<v Speaker 2>it was amazing. It was. It was really dope. You know,

0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:35.279
<v Speaker 2>Maxwell was in my top ten. So I love being

0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:35.799
<v Speaker 2>on tour now.

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Now personality wise, I got to ask between Jasmine and Maxwell,

0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:41.719
<v Speaker 1>who who would you be locked in a in a

0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:43.359
<v Speaker 1>room with for a long pero?

0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:46.600
<v Speaker 2>Maxwell? Because me and me and Maxwell just we vibed,

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:48.160
<v Speaker 2>like we talked a lot. We talked like every couple

0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:49.759
<v Speaker 2>of days, just like so where you going and like

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 2>where do you want to go in life? Like where

0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 2>do you want? Where do you want your music to go?

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 2>And just get an experience from him. So we had

0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:57.560
<v Speaker 2>like just great talks and just great interactment, you know.

0:39:57.680 --> 0:40:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, so Max, Okay, damn, I would have thought jazz,

0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:05.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, Max, like big brother, was you scared of jazzmins?

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:09.800
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I just heard she couldn't make rama.

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Anyone can make rama except for you.

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, No, she was great.

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:21.439
<v Speaker 1>I just you know, yeah, Now I'm curious. I felt

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:23.840
<v Speaker 1>like that tour was a really good lineup. It was

0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:26.280
<v Speaker 1>a really good, well rounded lineup. It was very impressive.

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 1>It was very impressive. Okay, so take me down to Doggyland.

0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, doggy Land.

0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:34.960
<v Speaker 1>How did that happen? Doggy Land? For all of you

0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:36.439
<v Speaker 1>guys that don't know, you could break it down.

0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Doggyland is a kid show on YouTube, So you can

0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:43.279
<v Speaker 2>look up doggy Land kids on YouTube and find it.

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 2>It's just educational and just great music. You know. I

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:50.239
<v Speaker 2>do the music. I do some of the music I do.

0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:52.600
<v Speaker 2>I voiced the character Woofie, and I'm co owner of

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:52.959
<v Speaker 2>the show.

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:54.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah now how did that come about?

0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 2>So I was in the studio working on songs and

0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Snoop comes in and he's like, Yo, we need to start.

0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:05.080
<v Speaker 2>We need to like do a kid song. I'm like,

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:06.200
<v Speaker 2>all right, He's like you think you can do that.

0:41:06.280 --> 0:41:08.520
<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, okay, cool, and he just walked out,

0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 2>all right, let's stop what I was doing. I was like,

0:41:11.080 --> 0:41:12.879
<v Speaker 2>all right, whipped up a kids song about thirty forty

0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:15.719
<v Speaker 2>minutes something like that, and then he came back in.

0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:17.360
<v Speaker 2>He was like, what you got and I played on

0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:19.200
<v Speaker 2>a song. I forget which one it is because we

0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:20.800
<v Speaker 2>have so many songs now, but I played it and

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:23.000
<v Speaker 2>he was like, I like that, that's joke. Can you

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:23.720
<v Speaker 2>do another one?

0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:25.520
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, why was he asking you to do

0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:29.080
<v Speaker 1>kids songs? You didn't even ask just he'd be okay.

0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:31.279
<v Speaker 2>I know, like after I finished and I go in

0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 2>the room and we like, you know, we have like this.

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:35.759
<v Speaker 1>He didn't even give you a topic like ABC's.

0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 2>No, he knew what you know. You know, I was

0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:39.560
<v Speaker 2>gonna come up with something. So then made another one,

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:41.919
<v Speaker 2>came back in, and this time I put my son

0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:44.400
<v Speaker 2>on it and he loved it. And it was a

0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:47.319
<v Speaker 2>song called brush Brush Your Teeth and he was like, yo,

0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:50.759
<v Speaker 2>I got to make a call. And then him and

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Claude Brooks, the other co owner of the show, they

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:56.399
<v Speaker 2>got together and was like, yo, we need we need

0:41:56.440 --> 0:41:58.240
<v Speaker 2>to do this kid show. We need to work together,

0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:01.799
<v Speaker 2>YadA YadA, pull october Man and they did. And next

0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:04.120
<v Speaker 2>thing you know, we were five six, seven, twenty songs

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:06.719
<v Speaker 2>deep and the show was getting created and animated and

0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:10.799
<v Speaker 2>it just blew up, you know, over almost Yeah. Yeah,

0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:15.520
<v Speaker 2>it's like over a quarter billion views. Yeah, it just

0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:19.080
<v Speaker 2>it really blew up. It's in Africas and it's everywhere now.

0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:22.239
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't make you look at the kid genre like differently, like, go, man,

0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:24.040
<v Speaker 1>there's money to be made over there. I mean I

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:25.840
<v Speaker 1>hate to talk like that, but it doesn't make you

0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:28.720
<v Speaker 1>look at it like I mean, that's a whole space over.

0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:30.360
<v Speaker 2>There, there is. It's a whole space. And yeah, you

0:42:30.400 --> 0:42:32.960
<v Speaker 2>can be very lucrative making making children's music.

0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:37.279
<v Speaker 1>You ever You ever hear the Baby Sharks song and go, Yeah,

0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:40.880
<v Speaker 1>that drove me nuts. I hate that song, but I'm like, how.

0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:44.080
<v Speaker 2>And let it snow or let it let it, let

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:44.440
<v Speaker 2>it go?

0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I love that song. Don't hate on that song.

0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Don't let it go.

0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:52.400
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, I was like, bro, let me

0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:54.840
<v Speaker 1>tell you something as an adult, which is good for

0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:58.600
<v Speaker 1>them without anybody any kids at the time, I definitely

0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:03.319
<v Speaker 1>downloaded Demi Levado's Let It Go without anybody knowing, like,

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:05.640
<v Speaker 1>you know what other song? I have to admit to

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 1>an artist that I really liked when I was younger,

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:09.800
<v Speaker 1>and I was ashamed to other artists.

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:11.239
<v Speaker 2>It was.

0:43:13.120 --> 0:43:17.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to No, it was Jewel. Jewel. You

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:21.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know who that is? The white girl guitar folk music.

0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:26.480
<v Speaker 1>I like Jewel. I was definitely ashamed, didn't want anybody

0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:34.400
<v Speaker 1>to know about it. And I actually like Brittany's. If

0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 1>you was black, you wasn't walk around like here with

0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Britney Spear, but you was watching the video when nobody

0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:42.080
<v Speaker 1>was around you was definitely you know, hitting a couple

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:44.719
<v Speaker 1>of songs, you know, you know, yeah, so I had them.

0:43:44.760 --> 0:43:46.319
<v Speaker 1>And it's so funny because sometimes if you listen to

0:43:46.320 --> 0:43:48.640
<v Speaker 1>my iTunes, you'll see them pop up and people be like,

0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:49.000
<v Speaker 1>what's that?

0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 2>Like, I don't know click no no, no, no, no no,

0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:53.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm about to play some gangster music.

0:43:58.960 --> 0:44:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Do you ever do that? Do you have people that

0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:03.319
<v Speaker 1>you listen to that you kind of weren't proud to

0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:03.839
<v Speaker 1>listen to?

0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:07.360
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think so.

0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Let me come on, everyone has that one? No, I

0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:16.799
<v Speaker 1>know dudes. The other day shout outs to Jerry back there.

0:44:17.239 --> 0:44:19.439
<v Speaker 1>He said that he liked Taylor Swift. I'm not trying

0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:20.560
<v Speaker 1>to put you out there, but.

0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Taylor has some music for sure. She has I listened

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:26.239
<v Speaker 2>to like and when I say listen to it, I'm

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 2>not in the car listen to it like I'll see

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 2>an album. Actually, no, because I think Taylor's nineteen eighty

0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 2>four album or whatever. I was like, let me just

0:44:35.760 --> 0:44:37.880
<v Speaker 2>see what this sounds like. I'm on the plane. By

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:39.239
<v Speaker 2>the time I get off plane and be done with

0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:40.799
<v Speaker 2>the album, I listened to it straight through and I

0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:43.920
<v Speaker 2>was like, god damgn it straight through. Really, I was

0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:45.880
<v Speaker 2>like shit, and I was like, hey, she is dope.

0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:49.719
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'm look it up now I'm writing. Oh. No,

0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:51.919
<v Speaker 2>I think nineteen eighty four was probably I can't believe

0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:52.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying this.

0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:55.600
<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. I love that you're saying that.

0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:57.279
<v Speaker 2>I think it's nineteen eighty four, so you.

0:44:57.239 --> 0:44:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Can relate to having that artist that.

0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:01.560
<v Speaker 2>Really one of my favorite artists is John Mayer, so

0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:02.560
<v Speaker 2>it kind of reminds me of that.

0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:03.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, John Mayor is pretty good.

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:08.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, r Kelly Shade, John Mayer top three, and D'Angelo

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:13.200
<v Speaker 2>top four all time. Really absolutely, yep. Oh, I could

0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:14.200
<v Speaker 2>listen to them.

0:45:14.000 --> 0:45:16.400
<v Speaker 1>All day okay, and hip hop you can't say snoop

0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Top three and hip hop can't say snoop because you

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:31.360
<v Speaker 1>know we're just gonna assume Jewel uh pray bang them out.

0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:35.839
<v Speaker 2>Man, if I were to, really, I have to bump

0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:36.279
<v Speaker 2>in the car.

0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:38.000
<v Speaker 1>What do I mean half to? You don't listen to

0:45:38.120 --> 0:45:38.680
<v Speaker 1>rap music?

0:45:38.840 --> 0:45:42.320
<v Speaker 2>I do, But man, I was just banging Young Jeezy's album.

0:45:42.560 --> 0:45:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Young Jeezy. There was one album that Jeeze put out

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 1>that was really amazing and I still.

0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Can't motivation one on one. I think it was listened

0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 2>to in the car and I'm.

0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Just there was one where he had like a bunch

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:55.040
<v Speaker 1>of bullets shooting out his gun. I forgot what it is.

0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:56.880
<v Speaker 1>It's my favorite song. I still can't find it to

0:45:56.920 --> 0:45:58.239
<v Speaker 1>this day. I go through and I.

0:45:58.160 --> 0:46:00.799
<v Speaker 2>Look for it. It's it's probably And I was just,

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:04.080
<v Speaker 2>is it a It's like hands in the air or

0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:06.759
<v Speaker 2>something like that. It's because when it first starts out,

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:12.080
<v Speaker 2>it's like bloom boom boom boom boom boom boom bloom bloom.

0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:13.399
<v Speaker 2>It's gotta that's gotta be it.

0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:15.680
<v Speaker 1>I think it is, but I can't find it. I'll

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:17.239
<v Speaker 1>go through like every one when I'll go through and

0:46:17.239 --> 0:46:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I listen.

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:24.200
<v Speaker 2>And I'm talking so much. D I really lived it, man.

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:26.279
<v Speaker 2>I was in the car, like yeah, and I was

0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:26.960
<v Speaker 2>going to Target.

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, I don't know why I like that album,

0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:37.840
<v Speaker 1>but so geez in Top three, man, between your mozzarella

0:46:37.880 --> 0:46:42.399
<v Speaker 1>and your wrap is not good mozzarella rap. Okay, come on,

0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:44.560
<v Speaker 1>come on, just hit me with the top three.

0:46:44.600 --> 0:46:47.319
<v Speaker 2>Please. What's not my top three of all time? This

0:46:47.440 --> 0:46:48.879
<v Speaker 2>is just what I'm about to bump in the car.

0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Top three of all time.

0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:52.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, you can't make me do that.

0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you can't leave, you can't.

0:46:54.400 --> 0:46:59.280
<v Speaker 2>No, I can't think of it. Okay, all right, okay, okay,

0:46:59.840 --> 0:47:03.480
<v Speaker 2>I know one off the top, JA Cole off the top,

0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:09.960
<v Speaker 2>I know, I know, I know Jacole, J Cole off

0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:11.239
<v Speaker 2>the top, J Cole, jay Z.

0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:14.520
<v Speaker 1>You mean jay z thn JA Coole.

0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm just not in order, okay, j Z, jay Z,

0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:20.280
<v Speaker 2>J Cole.

0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'll throw you out some some freebies just to

0:47:26.840 --> 0:47:29.840
<v Speaker 1>help you out. There's Kanye, there's Wayne.

0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah after them. Yeah okay, okay, yay, and and and Wayne.

0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:36.520
<v Speaker 2>I can yeah, I could go there you go, but

0:47:36.560 --> 0:47:37.880
<v Speaker 2>you said top three.

0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:39.880
<v Speaker 1>But okay, yeah, yeah, Wayne, Okay, I would.

0:47:39.719 --> 0:47:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Do Wayne Bananas still.

0:47:41.640 --> 0:47:43.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, jay Z, who did you say was the second

0:47:43.600 --> 0:47:54.719
<v Speaker 1>z Z? It would be jay Z, Wayne lyrically, jay Z, Carters, Bro.

0:47:54.160 --> 0:47:56.920
<v Speaker 2>Jay Z, Lil Wayne, j Cole, Kanye, but no, because

0:47:57.000 --> 0:47:57.839
<v Speaker 2>Kanye's cold blood.

0:47:58.120 --> 0:47:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Kanye would go before Ja Cole. I love you,

0:48:00.239 --> 0:48:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I love you Jake Hole fans, and I know how

0:48:02.080 --> 0:48:04.239
<v Speaker 1>much you guys love Jake Hole.

0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:06.160
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be so much. This is called this is

0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:08.840
<v Speaker 2>gonna cost so much slander. We were good until we

0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:10.560
<v Speaker 2>got the hip hop, and now it's gonna be nothing

0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:11.160
<v Speaker 2>but slander.

0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:15.000
<v Speaker 1>That's good. That's good. As long as long as they

0:48:15.000 --> 0:48:17.520
<v Speaker 1>don't focus on your mozzarella ramen, you'll be safe.

0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:19.560
<v Speaker 2>No they I wish they'd go back to that.

0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we have October nights. Is there a record

0:48:22.840 --> 0:48:27.160
<v Speaker 1>on that song that you play or you played repeatedly?

0:48:30.200 --> 0:48:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm, Which is the song that you like the

0:48:32.880 --> 0:48:35.359
<v Speaker 1>most on that record? Oh?

0:48:35.680 --> 0:48:43.080
<v Speaker 2>Probably kill Shot? Either kill Shot or uh it was

0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:45.319
<v Speaker 2>an interlude at first, and then I can't remember what

0:48:45.320 --> 0:48:46.240
<v Speaker 2>the hell name of the song.

0:48:46.200 --> 0:48:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Is, but that's hilarious, okay, kill Shot? And then which song?

0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:52.120
<v Speaker 2>Too much music? I don't, I don't. I don't. I

0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:53.200
<v Speaker 2>don't remember a lot of it.

0:48:53.400 --> 0:48:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay. And then when you write music, is it Taylor

0:48:56.120 --> 0:48:58.480
<v Speaker 1>to just your life or is it Taylor to like

0:48:58.520 --> 0:49:01.680
<v Speaker 1>things you see around you? Okay?

0:49:02.080 --> 0:49:04.799
<v Speaker 2>Because I can't. Once people start doing it, you can

0:49:04.960 --> 0:49:07.319
<v Speaker 2>make music for you. That's cool, but know that, you know,

0:49:07.320 --> 0:49:09.600
<v Speaker 2>you got to reach out to an audience. Now it's

0:49:09.640 --> 0:49:11.560
<v Speaker 2>like rappers getting rich and then that's all they talk

0:49:11.560 --> 0:49:14.600
<v Speaker 2>about his rolls, voices and every like. You know what

0:49:14.640 --> 0:49:16.919
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, Like Drake does everything is oh, I'm at

0:49:16.920 --> 0:49:20.439
<v Speaker 2>the my doing this. You like niggas about your album?

0:49:20.640 --> 0:49:22.160
<v Speaker 2>They ain't all got a billion dollars.

0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:24.399
<v Speaker 1>Bro. Speaking of Drake. Don't want to get off chap,

0:49:24.560 --> 0:49:27.400
<v Speaker 1>but I hate Drape as a Drake as a singer.

0:49:27.600 --> 0:49:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Any any parts of his album where he sings or

0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:32.759
<v Speaker 1>does his whatever he does, I can't do it. I

0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:34.680
<v Speaker 1>don't even listen to it. I just listen to the rap.

0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:39.120
<v Speaker 1>That's it. How do you feel about that top Prime

0:49:39.239 --> 0:49:45.560
<v Speaker 1>and please no time? Please? Oh my god? Do you

0:49:45.560 --> 0:49:49.319
<v Speaker 1>feel the same way I loved it at first?

0:49:49.920 --> 0:49:50.920
<v Speaker 2>I absolutely loved it.

0:49:51.000 --> 0:49:52.719
<v Speaker 1>You know what I could tell because you're struggling with

0:49:52.719 --> 0:49:56.239
<v Speaker 1>your rap, your rap, So yeah, I'll give you that.

0:49:56.320 --> 0:49:59.520
<v Speaker 1>I can see that for you. I can see that

0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:02.920
<v Speaker 1>for you. Hey, all right, is there any songs that

0:50:03.000 --> 0:50:05.040
<v Speaker 1>you wrote that you were crying behind the booth? I

0:50:05.040 --> 0:50:07.160
<v Speaker 1>have to know, you know, one where you tear it

0:50:07.200 --> 0:50:11.680
<v Speaker 1>up right and come on, be mad enough to say it. Breakup?

0:50:12.760 --> 0:50:16.520
<v Speaker 2>No, hell no, I've never done that. No, never done that. Breakup.

0:50:16.719 --> 0:50:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, no, no, there's no no break yeah

0:50:19.960 --> 0:50:22.360
<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, no, no, no, there was only one and

0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:24.600
<v Speaker 1>now I did a song called say I had a

0:50:24.600 --> 0:50:26.319
<v Speaker 1>song called say Goodbye with that's because one of my

0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:27.279
<v Speaker 1>best friends that passed away.

0:50:27.320 --> 0:50:29.440
<v Speaker 2>That was only one. I've only cried on one song

0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:29.800
<v Speaker 2>and that was that.

0:50:30.120 --> 0:50:32.279
<v Speaker 1>Okay, And you cried during the making opp like had

0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:32.799
<v Speaker 1>to take a break?

0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:38.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh absolutely several times? Okay, absolutely, but that's it, okay, Yeah,

0:50:38.280 --> 0:50:39.080
<v Speaker 2>But as far as.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, you're not crying over girls, oh my gosh, it's savage.

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<v Speaker 1>Just so you guys know, October is very impressive in

0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:50.960
<v Speaker 1>the music lane. Go out there, check out October Nights.

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<v Speaker 1>It's out right now at right now. Hopefully we'll see

0:50:53.800 --> 0:50:57.760
<v Speaker 1>him on tour. Yes, and shout outs to your crew.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you guys have these micro waves on the

0:51:01.200 --> 0:51:06.920
<v Speaker 1>tour buses. Please stay away from bunking near October for

0:51:06.960 --> 0:51:11.799
<v Speaker 1>your own health. Matter of fact, just remove the microwave

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<v Speaker 1>from the bus.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get first off, I'm gonna get your new microwave.

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<v Speaker 1>Why because you blew all the kilowats in this little

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<v Speaker 1>it's twenty minutes? Is it done? For real?

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<v Speaker 2>Just choking?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Thank you so much for your time. I

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<v Speaker 1>had so much fun, even though I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>fully got your whole story.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there's I can make the stuff, though. No.

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<v Speaker 1>If you come back, I will teach you a quick,

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<v Speaker 1>simple dish that you cannot burn down your house. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't require a microwave. Yes, okay, you know when you're

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<v Speaker 1>a mom, you learned twenty I call them like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>dollars twenty minute like cool ass dishes that you can

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<v Speaker 1>make that are banging. And I cook with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of high end like I cooked crab, lobster, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of seafood, and I still manage to do it under

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<v Speaker 1>a budget. Just you know, tastes great, tastes great, Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>you sure, as long as I have Butter'm good? Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>got butter, I'm good. I can't make anything taste but

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't cook red meat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and ranch have a ranch.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Having in fact, like like I said, put on everything

0:52:17.560 --> 0:52:19.800
<v Speaker 2>chili lasagna, not ramen pizza.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, did you say ranch on lazagna?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, you just draped after it comes out of the oven.

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<v Speaker 1>All the women out there, all the women out there,

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<v Speaker 1>all the women out there. I'm telling you, if October

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<v Speaker 1>asked you on a date, make sure it's at a restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure you don't go to his house in Cereal

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<v Speaker 1>with some ranch, come to some butter. Do not go

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<v Speaker 1>to this man's house. Come on through unless you ate first,

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<v Speaker 1>Come on through, get this noodle.

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<v Speaker 2>And with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys, we signed out piece out, check out October London,

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<v Speaker 1>October Nights out album out right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he'll be back on tour. We can catch him

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<v Speaker 1>in person singing Ye anything else and Doggie Land out

0:53:06.280 --> 0:53:08.760
<v Speaker 1>anywhere on YouTube yep.

0:53:08.800 --> 0:53:10.920
<v Speaker 2>And go get the toys. We just drop toys at

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<v Speaker 2>Target and I think at Walmart too.

0:53:12.640 --> 0:53:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Holy cow, these guys don't play. We are moving hustler

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<v Speaker 1>spirits over here.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. That's what I need to do. A kids cooking

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<v Speaker 2>show there it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love that. I would love that I would

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<v Speaker 1>love that you can use our studio anytime. There you go,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Peace out, guys, peace, Peace for more. Eating

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