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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have very

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Speaker 1: special guests. I want him to sing a little something

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Speaker 1: before I introduce you. By the way, I wanted to

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Speaker 1: do a plan words. I kept calling, calling, not you,

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Speaker 1: but your publicists, begging, pleading, come on, let's make it happen.

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Speaker 1: Let's get October in the studio. Damn, I just said to.

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Speaker 2: And you should have just called me.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know you could do that. I didn't start

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Speaker 1: into the DM was like that, Start making your ramen.

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Speaker 2: Start making this ramen. This is I actually call this

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Speaker 2: dish the South Bend Struggles. I'm from South in Indiana,

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Speaker 2: so always good old before I open it, and always

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Speaker 2: breaking in fours?

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Speaker 1: Does there have to be fours or you just break

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Speaker 1: it up?

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Speaker 2: I have OCD has to be eating not three years

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Speaker 2: or it can be two. But then I feel like,

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Speaker 2: are you serious?

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Speaker 3: You really have OCD A little bit, not like crazy

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Speaker 3: like I have to touch microphones or something like fourteen times,

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Speaker 3: but not like that, not that bad, but you know,

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Speaker 3: just you know that.

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Speaker 2: Type of stuff. Poor. Then oh yeah, this is yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is the bully that we're gonna use for that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was gonna have you on these, but

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Speaker 1: I don't want you to burn your fingertails.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. You know that works. That works.

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Speaker 2: You've got to have that up.

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Speaker 1: In there, and you gotta make two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: You're cooking for you and yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's true. I'm used to nobody wanting to eating it.

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Speaker 1: Huh.

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Speaker 2: I set them, used to nobody wanting to eat.

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Speaker 1: This ramen that you may how scary.

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Speaker 2: Son. Only my son's like, oh my god, I love it.

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Speaker 2: Everybody else is just I don't know how old is

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Speaker 2: your son?

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Speaker 1: Eight?

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Speaker 2: Okay, but he's bouchie, so I'm surprised that he wants

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Speaker 2: to eat it.

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Speaker 1: Okay. I feel like the younger kids, they believe in you,

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Speaker 1: like you're a superhero no matter what you make.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's very true, you know, but I like it.

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Speaker 2: I like it. It's water. I'm actually gonna need a

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Speaker 2: little bit more, but more, Yeah for sure, Oh no,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna need it, trust me.

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Speaker 1: Actually I am terrified.

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Speaker 2: Trust you're gonna need more.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, all right, so.

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Speaker 2: Then that go to the microwave. I don't do it

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Speaker 2: on the I don't do it on the stove. I

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Speaker 2: don't put anything in it, nothing like that. Obviously, put

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Speaker 2: in the microwave, and I do it for dope. Wait wait,

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Speaker 2: wait wait, I do it for ten minutes, ten minutes,

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Speaker 2: ten minutes. I gotta hit this thirty second button a

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Speaker 2: few times.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't explode in the microwave, but that heat.

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Speaker 2: Nope.

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Speaker 1: Do you put a lid on yours at home?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Really, ten minutes, that's gonna be mush for sure.

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Speaker 2: No, well it's not really, No, it won't be. It's

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Speaker 2: the it's the cheese part that makes everybody look at

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Speaker 2: it and be like really, and I'm just like, no,

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Speaker 2: it's it's melted.

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Speaker 1: Will happened to you?

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Speaker 2: One day?

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Speaker 1: You put it in too long? And you said, hmm,

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Speaker 1: I like.

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Speaker 2: This, that might have been. That might have been that actually,

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Speaker 2: that actually might have been I might have put it in.

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Speaker 2: Chel was like, oh for I forgot, and I was like, oh.

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Speaker 1: You were like, it's the last pack of ramens. So

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm just gonna work with it.

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Speaker 2: And also, I was a big fan of chicken noodle

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Speaker 2: soup when I was a kid. I would always eat

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Speaker 2: it like that. So when other people would make me ramen.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, these noodles aren't done, They're not Oh you

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Speaker 1: want this to be soup.

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Speaker 2: I want no, I don't want to be soup. I

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Speaker 2: want the noodle to be the consistency of a chicken

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Speaker 2: noodle soup that has to be a salt like.

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Speaker 1: Think I've ate a lot of chicken noodle soup. I

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Speaker 2: See.

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Speaker 1: But I'm also Jamaican, and Jamaicans they make everything from scratch.

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Speaker 1: So you know, my mom make the dumplings, the whole

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Speaker 2: Gonna take you, you know, take you to a place

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Speaker 2: you need to be with the noodles. You know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. I got you.

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Speaker 1: So tell everybody what else is going in this ramen dish.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So in this South Bend struggle, I put butter

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Speaker 2: in it, just you know, softening the flavor, all that

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Speaker 2: pack in there that comes with it, pepper, some seasoned salt, lowries.

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Speaker 1: In addition to the seasoning pack, in.

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Speaker 2: Addition to garlic, salt, or you can do garlic powder

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Speaker 2: if you want, and sometimes I do both. So you

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Speaker 2: got And then the last ingredient is mozzarella cheese.

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Speaker 1: And where does the butter come in?

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Speaker 2: The butter comes in once I take the noodles out

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Speaker 2: add the cheese.

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Speaker 1: I am afraid and inspired by this ramen, just just

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Speaker 1: when you thought ramen couldn't get any worse, you know,

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Speaker 1: But hopefully, hopefully this makes it in my top because

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Speaker 1: I told you earlier, there's like I've had enough ramen

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Speaker 1: to be able to you know, I'm hoping you yea

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Speaker 1: last so because I've had someone do ramen and I

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Speaker 1: literally ended like this is the worst ramen in the

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Speaker 1: history for rameny, but just so much onions.

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Speaker 2: It was oh no, no, yeah, I've heard of other

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Speaker 2: things getting added to ramen and all that kind of stuff,

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Speaker 2: but I don't know jalapenos. I've never done that, but

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Speaker 2: that that wouldn't bother me. I don't think. I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to think if that would. I like the way mine is.

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Speaker 2: It's just set just right for me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, And.

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Speaker 2: I forgot actually one ingredient, but it's okay, what is it?

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Speaker 2: It was a parsley flakes I like color on it.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm into?

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Speaker 2: Now? Fresh?

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Speaker 1: Do you do fresh?

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Speaker 2: I'm lazy that it will.

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Speaker 1: It will change your life and it lasted your fridge

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Speaker 1: for a while, as long as you keep it dry.

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Speaker 1: But I don't get like fresh, Dell fresh, oregano, fresh, parsley,

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Speaker 1: all of it. And then like you know when you

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Speaker 1: shaw tell your butter and garlic. Really, I promise you

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Speaker 1: changes the game.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 1: I learned it from this show.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's soothing to you, Just no, I.

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Speaker 1: Learned it from this show. One of the guests on

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Speaker 1: here cooked with it, and she was like, it was

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Speaker 1: the fresh ingredients that made it taste different. I need

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Speaker 1: I'll be learning tips, you know, just be teaching me

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Speaker 1: how to cook.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I need to try it.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna try this mozzarella. May go home and end

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Speaker 1: up eating this for a couple of days because I

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Speaker 1: like it. Yeah, I don't think I will, because this

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Speaker 1: seems like it's gonna be very much. I like geese.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I love mozzarella cheese on like spaghetti,

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Speaker 1: like a lot of it.

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Speaker 2: It'll be in your top five at least.

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Speaker 1: We don't see. We don't see. I don't even think

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Speaker 1: we need a second bowl. We could share your bowl.

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Speaker 1: You just pour some a it'll be enough.

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Speaker 2: The noodles will be puffy enough. That's where you want

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Speaker 2: to get it too, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, bring it on out, bring it all out,

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Speaker 1: bring them out, bring them mouth. Oh it's hot, do.

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Speaker 2: That thing hot? Yeah. See, at this point you might

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Speaker 2: say they're either perfect or they're like or they're a

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Speaker 2: little overcooked, right or maybe not? So what look how

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Speaker 2: they look now? Right? So people would eat them like that?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I was expecting more mush.

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Speaker 2: Okay, no, no, no, but remember I'm about to put it

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Speaker 2: back in there for another ten what why? Yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: how I cook it. I cook it for twenty minutes.

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Speaker 2: It's twenty minute, ramin.

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Speaker 1: Are you joking?

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Speaker 2: I swear that's what I was saying. I told you so,

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Speaker 2: I swear to you.

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Speaker 1: All right, So with what?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So with this? Now, take some butter, put it

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Speaker 2: up in there. I'll let it, but I put it

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Speaker 2: in there now. Sorry, so I can put the butter

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Speaker 2: in there, it'll mouth whatever.

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute pause. You cooked it for ten minutes? Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: Now you're saying that you're gonna do what you do.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do what I do. Put not all the stuff.

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Speaker 2: Montrelle is the last thing, okay, and then I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: put it back in there for ten.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's like a whole go ahead, educate used. This

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Speaker 1: will be the most memorable. We're gonna call this episode

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Speaker 1: the longest ramen of your life. You can't be starving

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Speaker 1: and you go to October's house and he'd be like,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna cook you some rum and you I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you'll be better. I'll make a spaghetti.

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Speaker 2: I'm no man.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's see this. Okay, put the butter in.

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Speaker 2: I put the butter in.

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Speaker 1: Starting to look mushy. Okay, no, it's not cloudy.

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Speaker 2: Put your chicken. Oh yes, definitely cloudy. Put your chicken

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Speaker 2: pack in there, all right? And after that, some pepper.

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Speaker 2: I'll throw some pepper in there now, okay, just a

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Speaker 2: little bit, though, I'll put some more. It comes back out.

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Speaker 2: Start this up, get it right, get it even. You know.

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Speaker 1: You're hilarious.

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Speaker 2: Oh I love making this. This is so fun for me.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: I think you like everyone's reaction.

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Speaker 2: Because I don't cook at home, no cooking home. I

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Speaker 2: took it out every day.

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Speaker 1: You know what it's. But what there's so many things.

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Speaker 1: You probably tried that one to say, Man, I don't

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Speaker 1: belong in a kitchen.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I no I cooked. I just don't cook

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Speaker 2: on the stove a lot. I'll make ramen, boiled eggs,

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Speaker 2: stuff like that, or scrambled eggs, something like that on

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Speaker 2: the stove. After that, I don't do nothing. No, you

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Speaker 2: don't see me cooking pasta. I'll get on the grill though. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm outside grill.

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Speaker 1: Let's see how well you see it though, because I

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Speaker 1: feel like I feel like it. Whatever you make it

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Speaker 1: home could be very salty.

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Speaker 2: No, not at all, you would think so, because we

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Speaker 2: have the chicken pack in there added some lowries.

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Speaker 1: You were very very nice with the lorry.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, you don't want to You don't want to overdo it.

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Speaker 1: Don't love overseason like a crazy person. But my food

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Speaker 1: tastes good. But I'll tell you this. My daughter, who's three,

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Speaker 1: she's been every time I cook, she runs up and

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Speaker 1: she'll go do do do do, and she'll grab a

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Speaker 2: I said, oh, cooking for Kingston. Who's Kingston? Exactly?

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Oh. You're gonna love it. I absolutely love it.

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Speaker 1: Once a week, I could cook a whole chicken meal.

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Speaker 1: So take me back to what was going on during

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Speaker 2: I was selling CDs out out of this van that

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Speaker 1: This was this was when CDs people had CD players, right.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, I mean you're taking out the deck you

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Speaker 1: So we're right this time. I mean, this is the

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, it was a hustler and you had dreams.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I had dreams I needed. I always had

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Speaker 2: make it. No, I was only making what steaking shake?

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Speaker 2: I was getting paid like what, three four hundred dollars.

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Speaker 2: I was like, hell, yeah, you know. But in the

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Speaker 2: reminds me of chicken noodle soup. I was a chicken

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta pause because I'm trying. I'm trying. I'm

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Speaker 1: trying not to judge you. I'm praying to Jesus that

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Speaker 1: are we got two seconds? Good pause timing. Yes, we be

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Speaker 1: about to eat. We're about to eat some mashed potatoes

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Speaker 1: mixed with mozzarella and cheese.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go. It's so good.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna judge it really hard, guys, and keep it

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Speaker 1: all the way real.

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Speaker 2: But we're not done yet. We still have to put

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Speaker 2: way now, all the noodles are. I could have made

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see this mashed potatoes.

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Speaker 2: It's not it's like it's almost like a pasta. So

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Speaker 2: you see how it still has a little bit of

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Speaker 1: And no, god, no, we can't. We would never eat.

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Speaker 1: We would never eat. Did you ever make this for

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Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg?

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Speaker 2: No, but I think he would really enjoy it. Matter

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Speaker 2: of fact, I'm think I would make it for him.

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Speaker 1: I think, and I'm record it. Send it to me, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I would, please.

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Speaker 2: I would close your microwave. But it's really hot now

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Speaker 2: it's been running for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Is it really that hot?

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Speaker 2: No, No, it's fine, it's fine.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now let's just see it. Let's see if there's

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Speaker 1: a really you're hilarious, that's like a twenty dollars microwave too,

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Speaker 2: Let's go next door get her, get her a new microwave.

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Speaker 2: All right, so it's look, I mean the consistency of

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Speaker 2: a Look at the noodle. Now it's soft, like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't need to you don't need teeth. You

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Speaker 1: don't need teeth. Break out the straws. Everybody, your grandparents,

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Speaker 1: get your great grandparents could eat this dish.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 1: If you ever have a jaw break, this is the meal.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here we go this and now we want to

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Speaker 2: we want to finish it off. Okay, first off, I

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Speaker 2: more pepper. That's the only thing.

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Speaker 1: You don't even sample to see it this season.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I don't need to know. I already know.

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Speaker 2: It's pure perfection. Okay, pure.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to try this mashed potatoes and cheese. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here we go. Let's see.

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Speaker 2: It depends on how much cheese you want, but I

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Speaker 1: All the cheesey doing Okay, let's see. Look the cheese

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Speaker 2: Okay, actually no, this is not enough cheese for me.

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Speaker 2: This not for me. I want you to make it

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Speaker 2: how I would make it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we want to eat it the way you would

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Speaker 1: because we're gonna see if this will ever make it

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you it's gonna make it. It's gonna make it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: to see I need it just a little bit cheesier

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Speaker 2: I needed to. Yeah that should be good. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is just gonna be amazing. I mean, look at it.

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Speaker 2: You could really serve this, like.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you was back. They're plotting on how

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Speaker 1: he was like, I'm going to make twenty minute ramen

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Speaker 2: Oh definitely not.

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Speaker 1: I mean it looks gooey. It looks like some really

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you use a fork. Look at the cheese on

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Speaker 1: Look you serve me up here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, get some of that. Get some of

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Speaker 1: Oh no, that's I want to get the h That's fine.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jamaican. Okay, wet cow stomachs and tails.

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Speaker 2: It's a cow stom mix and tails. Look at the cheese.

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Speaker 2: Look at that. Just absolutely beautiful. I'll just I'll just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hook me up, I eat hook you Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's enough. That's enough of your I'll tell you this.

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Speaker 1: It looks good.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. See but wen't see that's a lot of

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Speaker 1: You can have this fork. I'll take that.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, you take

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, looks guys presentation.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: I like the I do agree. You could have done

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the party on top. Yeah yeah, yeah, the parsley

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Speaker 2: is it? Go ahead say exactly, you're right, it's.

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Speaker 1: Not that great.

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Speaker 2: Serve this up to snoop please, no, I'm telling you this.

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Speaker 2: This got me through.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is a one and done. If all

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Speaker 1: start one and done, this is like what happens when

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Speaker 1: you don't cook at home. All right, So okay, so

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Speaker 2: I was trying to get my writing right at fifteen,

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Speaker 2: I think I really want to do this. Started going

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Speaker 2: I was just like, man, I can start making beats.

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Speaker 2: I want to be like Timblin, you know, stuff like that,

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Speaker 2: and then started to sing. And then I saw on TV.

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Speaker 2: I actually came over over Travis's house and it messed

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Speaker 2: me up because he was like, oh man, look it's

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Speaker 2: this light skined do with braids just like you. Man,

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Speaker 2: killing it on TV is killing you. I'm a competitive person.

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Speaker 1: Ye yeah.

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Speaker 2: Then I started to sing even more so that was

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, okay, okay.

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Speaker 2: I think it was just got to make it or something. Man,

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Speaker 2: it might have dropped.

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Speaker 1: So okay, so you start doing music, you graduate high school,

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Speaker 1: what's your next big play?

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Speaker 2: Next big play is trying to find a way into

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Speaker 2: to do. I just knew the slang CDs and go

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Speaker 2: to bars and try to do little shows, you know, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: sing one song, not karaoke or anything like that. I

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Speaker 2: never liked karaoke, but I just wanted to go sing

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Speaker 2: in front of a crowd and just see how that felt.

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Speaker 1: And you're all doing this still in Indiana.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just hitting different bars in Indiana.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, and your parents are now onto you. Nope,

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Speaker 1: they're not onto you. You're keeping the seagrut.

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Speaker 2: No, they just think I'm going to hang out with

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Speaker 2: my friends.

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Speaker 1: I said, you have siblings, anybody in the family know

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Speaker 2: Maybe two, But they were on they were doing other stuff,

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Speaker 2: so I didn't. They didn't pay no attention to her, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're just doing whatever.

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Speaker 1: Is there a reason why you weren't telling anybody?

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Speaker 2: No, I just I don't know. I just didn't tell anybody.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think I was that good like that. So

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Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know if I want to

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Speaker 2: do it or you know. It wasn't until, like I said,

440
00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,480
Speaker 2: I was eighteen where I was like, maybe I really

441
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,240
Speaker 2: should do this, but I don't know yet. I don't

442
00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,959
Speaker 2: want to tell anybody and get every because then they

443
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,639
Speaker 2: want to come to the shows. And it wasn't. Then

444
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,119
Speaker 2: it makes me nervous at that point, I'm nervous, Nelly.

445
00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,520
Speaker 1: But now you're approaching the bars yourself.

446
00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, with other friends that are older. So I'm getting

447
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,440
Speaker 2: into these bars and doing that. But you know, bar

448
00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,160
Speaker 2: was cool with us and all that kind of stuff.

449
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,600
Speaker 1: So you start performing. When do you start to really

450
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 1: believe in yourself?

451
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 2: Probably twenty twenty one something like that.

452
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,160
Speaker 1: Was there something in particular that happened that made you go, oh,

453
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 1: I think I have something here.

454
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,879
Speaker 2: I don't. I can't remember. I don't think so. I

455
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 2: think I was just I think I just started to

456
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 2: progress a little bit more and started to meet more people.

457
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,360
Speaker 2: And the more people I met, I was like, oh, well,

458
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,640
Speaker 2: they like it. This person likes it, and he's close

459
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 2: to this guy that's five degrees of separation from that guy.

460
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,639
Speaker 2: Maybe I should keep going. Yeah, okay, And then that

461
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,919
Speaker 2: just kept going from there, and I still started to

462
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,520
Speaker 2: meet different people, my boy Mike Letter, which I wrote

463
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,639
Speaker 2: several songs with or whatnot. So you know, I just

464
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,680
Speaker 2: it was just the constant going and finding different people

465
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 2: to talk to.

466
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 1: And then while all this is going on, you're still

467
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:56,399
Speaker 1: working multiple jobs.

468
00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:01,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, I'm still working multiple jobs. Until jeez, when

469
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 2: was that? That was? Time has gone by so fast?

470
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 2: Because that was what I was fifteen. That might have

471
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,640
Speaker 2: been two thousand and eight, so we're talking maybe two

472
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 2: thousand and fourteen or something like that. I don't know,

473
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 2: it's time's been going by so fast. And I think

474
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 2: about I never sat here and thought about how long

475
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 2: it's been since I actually started.

476
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 1: Since you actually started, or when do you started to

477
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,120
Speaker 1: like actually one hundred percent go into.

478
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 2: No, since I just started writing, like at fifteen and

479
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 2: being like, whoa, it's been a minute.

480
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 1: That's a long time. But even at fifteen, you don't

481
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 1: see the average fifteen year olds saying, Okay, I'm going

482
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 1: to start writing songs unless they kind of call a

483
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,120
Speaker 1: cliffhanger of someone else's story, like oh, you can make money,

484
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 1: especially it seems like money.

485
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 2: Oh. Star Kelly R. Kelly was the one that really

486
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 2: pushed me to like do me like I was just

487
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 2: his writing style was cold.

488
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 1: It was amazing, It was amazing. I remember I remember

489
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 1: seeing some of his music going. I had never seen

490
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 1: anything like it before. It's really the Isley Brothers. I

491
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 1: was a little late, obviously, I'm yeah.

492
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 2: It was.

493
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: It was when they did that, I was like, oh shit, yeah,

494
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 1: this musical on wheels is crazy. It's crazy good. Still

495
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 1: have the hooks in my head. Okay, okay, So you

496
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 1: see that you're getting inspired, you're pursuing writing and your

497
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 1: echine towards the promised land in towards it. Yeah, echine

498
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:20,679
Speaker 1: towards it.

499
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,120
Speaker 2: The term is step forward eight steps back.

500
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, So give me an example of a four step

501
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 1: four like where you think you touched the land and

502
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 1: then landed right back.

503
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 2: Mmmm. That would have to be I want to say.

504
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,199
Speaker 2: I want to say, I don't know what year it was,

505
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,439
Speaker 2: but it might Oh no, it might have been like

506
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, something like that.

507
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 2: The years are all bunched up, so I probably got

508
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 2: those wrong anyway, But whatever. I was with one of

509
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 2: my friends, Mike Letter, who lives in Miami where kicking

510
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 2: and we end up meeting in a circle who made

511
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 2: the bad Boy song, the you know, the off of

512
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 2: Cops or whatnot. And I'm just hanging around all these

513
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 2: people producers like d Nad which was you know, with

514
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 2: with other with other artists, and we got to call

515
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 2: that we're gonna go to Lenny kraviatt studio in Miami.

516
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 2: So I'm like that. It was the guy that works

517
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 2: with Lenny. I'm like, this is it. You know, we

518
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 2: we got all our songs, Like me and Mike are

519
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 2: gathering all these songs in a hard drive, like, no,

520
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 2: speck this one out. We're just like, no, he's gonna

521
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 2: love this one. He's gonna love this one. He's gonna

522
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 2: love this one. And we went there and the dude

523
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, you got some potential, but you know,

524
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,120
Speaker 2: you're like you might be like five to ten years off.

525
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, to get on now.

526
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 1: Were you going over there to like sell him your

527
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: songs or to.

528
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 2: To get a song to Lenny and to get a deal.

529
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we get signed and be on a ten years.

530
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: That's that's not the response you're looking for.

531
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 2: I got that within the same week. Another person that

532
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 2: was working I think for Bad boy. At the time,

533
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 2: she said the same thing. She was like, yeah, I

534
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 2: think he needs development and it's going to be at

535
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 2: least ten years.

536
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: And I'm like Jesus, and how many years in the

537
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 1: game were you at that point? You were probably almost ten,

538
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 1: right at that point, No, fifteen, at least seven, right,

539
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: something like that. Seven Damn? Could you imagine seven years

540
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: and be like I got another ten to go?

541
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm like yo, I'm like, man, this is not it.

542
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 2: So I just crashed back all over again. Go back home,

543
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 2: go chill all the way back to it. Yeah, go

544
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 2: all the way back to Indiana, go back, get a job, restart.

545
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 1: Damn. I stopped that really knocked the going out yourself.

546
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I stopped doing music for a while. Stop

547
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 2: doing music for man.

548
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 1: You know, my little brother is a comic. But I

549
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 1: remember when he first started. I said to Ego, you

550
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 1: got to choose your ten. Even though it sounds like

551
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,719
Speaker 1: you chose your ten, but I noticed everybody industry like

552
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: they had to do their ten.

553
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 2: Yeah they said ten thousand hours.

554
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, we're ten thousand hours. Yeah, that's that's

555
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: a better term. But I remember Gabby Wilson, remember her,

556
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: I remember when she was a little girl. She's coming

557
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 1: to our next studio, and she was like seven or eight,

558
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: and she was so talented, and nobody knew what to

559
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: do with her, and she kept coming back. And then

560
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: one day I turn on the TV and there she is.

561
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the heck? But it took her, like

562
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: the animal, twenty years. But you don't know that it

563
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: takes that long. So you go all the way back.

564
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 1: They knocked the one out of your cell. What makes

565
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: you pick up again?

566
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: Just not wanting to struggle, not wanting to do the

567
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 2: job anymore. It got to the point where I wasn't

568
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: keeping a job very long because I just hated it.

569
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 2: And I was like, dude, I don't want to do

570
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 2: this shit.

571
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: Do you think in the back of your mind you

572
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: got a taste of the promis Land? You got so

573
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 1: close that you couldn't like shake it.

574
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 2: And you know, went back at it again after a

575
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 2: couple of years or something like that.

576
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: A couple of years.

577
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like I was listening to music and

578
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 2: still studying.

579
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, were you still playing in the studio,

580
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: like still coming up with music or where.

581
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 2: You just a little bit a little bit. But as

582
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: far as like me going full in. I'll knock the

583
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: wind out of.

584
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,959
Speaker 1: Them, damn. Okay, so you start to get back up.

585
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: I like this this the hero is Yeah, of course, okay,

586
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: everyone does that. Okay, so you took a step back, Okay,

587
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 1: you come back. What brings you completely out of the closet?

588
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 1: Besides you hate the job?

589
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 2: Uh? I just felt like, man, so many great R

590
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 2: and B artists, and I really wanted to be a

591
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 2: part of that story of music, like having my name

592
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 2: in that. You know. I don't want to be better

593
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 2: than them or nothing like that. I just wanted to

594
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 2: be I'm competitive, yes.

595
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 1: But I like your competitive space.

596
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no for yeah, it's bad, but you know,

597
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: I just want to be there. I want my name

598
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 2: somewhere in that in that list, you know, for for

599
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 2: R and B or for any genre really. So I

600
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 2: just it was just the yearning of it. I And

601
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 2: like I said, I didn't want to work any regular

602
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 2: job anymore. I had great friends around me, like, no, man,

603
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 2: you should really still do. They're playing my music in

604
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: their cars and I'm just like, oh, I stop playing

605
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: this ship like I'm not gonna get on and it's over. YadA, YadA, YadA,

606
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 2: all that shit. So what you know, end up leading

607
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 2: to me going into truck driving school.

608
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 1: Truck driving school.

609
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was about to be a truck driver.

610
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this.

611
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 2: Was now, this was two thousand dollars.

612
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: Could you imagine if you actually didn't come back, it'd

613
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: be a waste of great talent behind the wheel.

614
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: I'd be eating cheetos and ramen mozzarella. Oh god, just

615
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 2: chewing away.

616
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: Oh my god, driving Oh my god, thank god. I hope.

617
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: Well you still eat mozzarella ramen.

618
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, I always gotta go back.

619
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: No you don't. If there's one thing you ain't gotta do,

620
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: it's go back to mozzarella. Twenty minute ramen, go back,

621
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: go back. All right, so you come back, what's your

622
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: This is twenty fifteen. Now it's twenty fifteen. Okay, okay,

623
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: you're coming back, damn twenty fifteen. Yeah, I see. I

624
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: see how the road can be fast for you. Okay,

625
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: So then you come back. What's your first play coming back?

626
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: Get a get an actual job, not like a well,

627
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: I want to say actual job, but you know, you

628
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 2: have your stake and change over your stuff like that.

629
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 2: But I was like, I need something that's going to

630
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 2: pay me, you know, eighty to one hundred a year.

631
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 2: That was my that was my goal.

632
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

633
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 2: So I was like, well, I like driving. I like

634
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 2: being on the road a lot. I was always a

635
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: road warrior. All my boys are like, we'll get in

636
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: the car and just drive like no problem. So it's

637
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 2: like I was like, well, I'm a car person. I

638
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 2: don't mind trucks. Let me just try a truck driving school.

639
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: Okay.

640
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 2: And I was doing truck driving school.

641
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: Did you like it?

642
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: It's cool. I don't like the studying part. I hate that.

643
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: It was just a lot of I learned a lot,

644
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: so respect to the truck drivers, and I learned a lot.

645
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, you.

646
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: Like I learned enough to know this job.

647
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Man. But I was almost about to graduate. I

648
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: was maybe a couple of weeks or a week or

649
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 2: something like that from graduating. And then got the car

650
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: from Jazzy or I want to say, I got the car.

651
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: My boy DeMarco Black rest in peace. He just passed

652
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: my That's my ace that I started in twenty fifteen with.

653
00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 2: He had a connection and got me to do the

654
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 2: call with Jazzy, and Jazzy was taking my music to Snoop,

655
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: but I didn't know that, so I sent my music

656
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: to Jazzy. Jazzu was already going to meet with Snoop,

657
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: so he went to go meet him and he was like, Yo,

658
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: you know, I ran to this kid, he's out of Indiana.

659
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: Let me play some of his music. He played some

660
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 2: of my music, and he played one of my songs

661
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,479
Speaker 2: that sounded very Marvin Gay esque, and he loved it

662
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: and he was like, Okay, I'm gonna sign this kid.

663
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: And then three months later, well, I quit truck driving.

664
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: After that, I was like, okay, this is the big break.

665
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, like this this is off the word that he

666
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: was going to sign you or off the eng This.

667
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 2: Is off the word I was. I was like, I'm

668
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: not peace. Jazzu was like, just sit tight through Christmas

669
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 2: and I was like okay, bet. So it got through

670
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen Christmas. January, I was getting nervous. I was like, Jazus,

671
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 2: we're still doing this right. He was like yeah, no,

672
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: it's a lot going on to holidays and you know

673
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: all that. I was like okay. February came and then

674
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 2: Snoop called me and was just like before right, I

675
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,959
Speaker 2: think the day before the super Bowl and was like, yo,

676
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 2: I'm definitely I definitely want to sign you. I want

677
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: to get you out here while you're out here, and

678
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 2: I flew out March sixteenth, twenty sixteen.

679
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: I love how you remember it. Why do you remember

680
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: that date?

681
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just remember that I thought that

682
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 2: day was going to change my life.

683
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: And was that your first time on the call with Snoop?

684
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

685
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: Okay, so you were like, oh shit, this is real.

686
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: It's like real because he was like, oh, I'm a fan.

687
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: I'm a fan of you, nephew.

688
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, do that in person.

689
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: What's up, homies, it's a big homie Snoop dog, I'm

690
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 2: a fan of you. Player Like all right, cool. I

691
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 2: was like, I didn't think it was really him at first.

692
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: It was like a prank call from Jazz.

693
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: If they did it today, I'd have been like, that's

694
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 2: ai click no he I know.

695
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: So you get the call, you fly out. What's what's

696
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: the first experience?

697
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 2: March sixteenth, meeting him sitting in that lobby and just

698
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: looking around like the pictures of him and your doggy

699
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: style and I'm just looking around like, man, this is

700
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 2: crazy and he comes out and he's a labor and

701
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 2: I'm a laborer. So we just yo, what up? Man?

702
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 2: What's like we knew each other.

703
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: You weren't nervous at all? No, okay, did you wear

704
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: a suit?

705
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: No? I didn't wear a suit, but I was probably

706
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: I probably was dressed, but I didn't wear a suit. No. No,

707
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: I don't want to go that hard. And he'd be like, oh,

708
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: I got a preacher or something you don't like. So

709
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: we went into the studio and the rest was history.

710
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,719
Speaker 2: He put on a beat, saw my work ethic, and

711
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: I just knocked out one song like that, and he

712
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: was like damn, okay, throwing another one, knock it out,

713
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: another one, knocked it out. It was like he was like, okay,

714
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 2: all right, you got the voice, you got the work ethic.

715
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: I see, but we'll just keep going. And in a

716
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: week I did. Oh No, I did in three or

717
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: four days. I recorded the album that we're supposed to

718
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: put out. I did eighteen songs in three or four days.

719
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: Get the freak out.

720
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: Now.

721
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: Did you already have your deal signed already or no?

722
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 2: I was still in process, But I was like I'm

723
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 2: going in. Yeah, I'm going the fuck in At this point,

724
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: I'm passionate about what I'm doing. I you know, feel

725
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: strongly about the way I'm writing and all that, and

726
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 2: he let me just have full autionomy. He was like, well,

727
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 2: call me when you're done. I was like, for real.

728
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,479
Speaker 2: I was like, this ain't how labels work. They used

729
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: to be on your We don't like this. What are

730
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: you feel like and going through like artist management and

731
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 2: artist development and all that, and it's just like he

732
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 2: was just like, I love the first song that you did, man,

733
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: see if you can come up with another one. Came

734
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: up with another one within an hour. He was like,

735
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: what you didn't have you had that sitting. I was like, no, dude,

736
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 2: I just knock him out. And now I knocked out

737
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 2: eighteen in three days. Got my I was actually sick

738
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: after that. I was just stayed in the studio.

739
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: I had no rest or nothing.

740
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: No rest or nothing. And he was like, dude, go

741
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 2: back to the hotel, go rest Let me listen to

742
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 2: these songs. And he was like, yeah, we got an

743
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: album and we put out color Blind.

744
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: Wow.

745
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: We had to do a two part because it was

746
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 2: you knows.

747
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: And then at what point was the deal done?

748
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: Deal still wasn't. Well, the deal was done right before

749
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: the album dropped yet, Okay, so then I'm signing and

750
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, it's all. It's on to the races.

751
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: Now. Did you have to on the business side, did

752
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: you have to like contact lawyers and do all that

753
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: or did you did you even know how to move

754
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: in that space because you're coming from truck.

755
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: We weren't even As a matter of fact, I now,

756
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: actually I have to go back because hold on a lot.

757
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: Me and him never had a contract until death throw,

758
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 2: so we went years of just handshake loyalty just to

759
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: find out who you know, the loyal part. So I

760
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: forgot about that. So we didn't even have Mentally, I

761
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: was like, I'm signed to him mentally he was. So

762
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: that's why I'm like, oh, yeah, you know that was done.

763
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: To be honest, I like those deals better. Yeah, it's

764
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: like something about it.

765
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, was he gonna steal from me? I have ship?

766
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 2: I'm broke. I'm broke.

767
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: I mean Ramen, hopefully not Mozzarella Ramen.

768
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: I wasn't making it like, I wasn't making it this

769
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: good that could it's good. Oh yeah, I was making

770
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: it the regular way, you know, the regular way was

771
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: yeah done. Yeah, you gotta adkice to it. Yeah, be

772
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: sexy ramen?

773
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I know, absolutely not. You need to go

774
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: back to the classic ramen with just some butter and

775
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: call it today.

776
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: You can't do that.

777
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: I never knocked the butter in the ramen. I think

778
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: that's the secret. It makes it creamier. But okay, but

779
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: that mozzarella.

780
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 2: It was the butter.

781
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: See.

782
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: That's why I should be in the top five.

783
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: It should definitely be in the top ten. So going

784
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: back to the worst rum and you're not the worst.

785
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now, you're not the worst. I

786
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: would do yours over the absolute worst. But you don't

787
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: like that cold mozzarella ball in your mouth? No, you know,

788
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: you know, like no colds in your Okay. Uh so okay,

789
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: So you and Snoop, you guys, you signed to him.

790
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: What are your parents saying? I want to know, like

791
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: what your family is saying, what the people around you

792
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: are saying. During all of.

793
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: This, everybody's just like, this is it. They're hoping because

794
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 2: they saw me go to the struggle. Yeah it's it. No,

795
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: it's not. Oh yeah yeah, no, hey damie, yo, this

796
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 2: is it man. I'm on my way to never mind it,

797
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: like they're just like Jesus Christ. I really hope.

798
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can't see him trying out

799
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: for cold air school next day.

800
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 2: I was like, yo, like color, I would have killed

801
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 2: it in culinary school.

802
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you would have killed something in culinary.

803
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: My pork chop surprise would have been a killer in

804
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 2: culinary school. And I don't even have a pork chop surprise.

805
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: But I'm making now.

806
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: You don't make it now, it's.

807
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 2: Gonna be like it's gonna be stuffed with ramen. Cut it, open,

808
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: stuff it you.

809
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: If you belong in music, you belong in music. You

810
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: belong in music. I can't even say if you should

811
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: know you belong in music. This is where you need

812
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: to be at that. And the styling of your dressing

813
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: is very nice.

814
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 2: Thanks.

815
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, just stay out of the kitchen. Get you

816
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: a wife that I'll.

817
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 2: Stay over there and kill some steak, though rib steak.

818
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: I can't cook chicken.

819
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you a team if they would ever

820
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: trust you to cook for them, they would.

821
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 2: As long as I'm on the grill. Not They don't

822
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: want me to do nothing on the stove.

823
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: No, no, no, he probably put mozzarella in mashed potatoes.

824
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: If they saw me cooking on the stove, they would

825
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 2: probably leave immediately, or they'd just be like, yeah, we're good,

826
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: we'll order out. Yeah. But if they saw me on

827
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 2: a grid, they'd be like, okay, about to get down.

828
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 2: They trust me there.

829
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: I don't trust you there, but okay, I don't trust you.

830
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: All right.

831
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: So you're doing your music, So tell me about some

832
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: of the highs, like the very first high of your career,

833
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 1: after the signing, after the album's done, m what's the next?

834
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 2: First album was first?

835
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,479
Speaker 1: Because you have? Is it three?

836
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: Now? Colorblind was a double Okay, it was a double disc.

837
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 2: But at that point, I mean, people are liking the album,

838
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 2: but we weren't really pushing it really hard. We just

839
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: kind of wanted to see organically what it would do.

840
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 2: So it kind of I don't know. I was on

841
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: the fence. I was like, do people like it? Like,

842
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 2: do people love it? I don't know. Maybe people don't

843
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: want to hear the type of music right now. So

844
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: at that point I'm just more nervous. I'm like, okay,

845
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 2: I'm sign a snoop.

846
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: Yeah.

847
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: Mentally, you know, we're you know, we have this agreement,

848
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 2: and I'm like, why isn't anything going number one? Why

849
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: isn't anything Like, Oh, I don't understand, Like is it

850
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 2: people hated people and end up people actually loved it.

851
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: I just didn't know. We didn't. We weren't really we

852
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 2: wanted to see organically and it just worked out. No,

853
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: nothing went number one, you know. No, it wasn't at

854
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 2: the top of the charts, but it was like one

855
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 2: of those underground things that felt yeah, where now people

856
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: know those songs so worked out?

857
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, now you're being competitive. Did you feel that pressure

858
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: of like, oh my gosh, I'm signed to Snoop? You

859
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: know these the people that he's worked with you did

860
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: you play that? Did you play that in your brain

861
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: a lot?

862
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: Well, a little bit and not too much because I

863
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 2: was like, he's a rapper, but if he was a singer,

864
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh boy, this's gonna be a problem.

865
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: I really got to go. But is he's a rapper

866
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 2: and he has these connections. I was like, I think

867
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 2: I'm in a safe space, which.

868
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: I was, Well, I feel like too, your style compared

869
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: to everybody else, is very unique. It's definitely sets apart,

870
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: so you can't really say, oh, I'm competing with the

871
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: say Chris Brown or anybody else, because you you kind

872
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: of you very well own your lane.

873
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. If I would have been in like the

874
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: same lane or the same label as a Chris Brown

875
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 2: or just him alone, I'd have been like, Oh great,

876
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get shelved or I'm put this album. They're

877
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 2: gonna go back to him, And I was like, it's

878
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 2: not gonna work out. So I was it was a

879
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: great lane to be in.

880
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: It was a great lane. Yeah, And I think for

881
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: death Row you definitely added a surprising element. And not

882
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: talking bad about death Row because I be honored to

883
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: have Snoop, you know obviously, but you added a level

884
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: of like, oh like level of like classic layer of

885
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: all Man.

886
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 2: When he said I was gonna be the flagship for

887
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: death Row, I was like, huh.

888
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: But you could see it. You could see like it

889
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 1: to me, you you really bring something to that label.

890
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: I'm just happy to be on it because I was like,

891
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: I'm you supposed to be signing like rappers to this label,

892
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: like you had Park and all that.

893
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: Like, were you a little nervous too about like his direction?

894
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: Like obviously he was off hands. He lets you be you,

895
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: But were you nervous like a rapper kind of?

896
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 2: No? No, No, he knew what he was doing.

897
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: And you know he had good taste. He had good taste, right,

898
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: good taste.

899
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying?

900
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

901
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And he's a liver. You know, it's the best.

902
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, livers are the best, got it? Liverras and ramen. Okay,

903
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: So take me. So you end up going on tour,

904
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:26,959
Speaker 1: how was the tour?

905
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 2: Serenade tour with Maxwell and Jasmine Sullivan was amazing? Yeah,

906
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 2: it was amazing. It was. It was really dope. You know,

907
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 2: Maxwell was in my top ten. So I love being

908
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 2: on tour now.

909
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: Now personality wise, I got to ask between Jasmine and Maxwell,

910
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: who who would you be locked in a in a

911
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: room with for a long pero?

912
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: Maxwell? Because me and me and Maxwell just we vibed,

913
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: like we talked a lot. We talked like every couple

914
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 2: of days, just like so where you going and like

915
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: where do you want to go in life? Like where

916
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: do you want? Where do you want your music to go?

917
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: And just get an experience from him. So we had

918
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: like just great talks and just great interactment, you know.

919
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so Max, Okay, damn, I would have thought jazz,

920
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 1: you know, Max, like big brother, was you scared of jazzmins?

921
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I just heard she couldn't make rama.

922
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: Anyone can make rama except for you.

923
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: Okay, No, she was great.

924
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 1: I just you know, yeah, Now I'm curious. I felt

925
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: like that tour was a really good lineup. It was

926
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 1: a really good, well rounded lineup. It was very impressive.

927
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: It was very impressive. Okay, so take me down to Doggyland.

928
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, doggy Land.

929
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: How did that happen? Doggy Land? For all of you

930
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 1: guys that don't know, you could break it down.

931
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: Doggyland is a kid show on YouTube, So you can

932
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 2: look up doggy Land kids on YouTube and find it.

933
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: It's just educational and just great music. You know. I

934
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 2: do the music. I do some of the music I do.

935
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: I voiced the character Woofie, and I'm co owner of

936
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:52,959
Speaker 2: the show.

937
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: Yeah now how did that come about?

938
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: So I was in the studio working on songs and

939
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 2: Snoop comes in and he's like, Yo, we need to start.

940
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: We need to like do a kid song. I'm like,

941
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: all right, He's like you think you can do that.

942
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, okay, cool, and he just walked out,

943
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: all right, let's stop what I was doing. I was like,

944
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 2: all right, whipped up a kids song about thirty forty

945
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 2: minutes something like that, and then he came back in.

946
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 2: He was like, what you got and I played on

947
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: a song. I forget which one it is because we

948
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 2: have so many songs now, but I played it and

949
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: he was like, I like that, that's joke. Can you

950
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 2: do another one?

951
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: And I was like, why was he asking you to do

952
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: kids songs? You didn't even ask just he'd be okay.

953
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 2: I know, like after I finished and I go in

954
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: the room and we like, you know, we have like this.

955
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: He didn't even give you a topic like ABC's.

956
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 2: No, he knew what you know. You know, I was

957
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 2: gonna come up with something. So then made another one,

958
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 2: came back in, and this time I put my son

959
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 2: on it and he loved it. And it was a

960
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 2: song called brush Brush Your Teeth and he was like, yo,

961
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 2: I got to make a call. And then him and

962
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: Claude Brooks, the other co owner of the show, they

963
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 2: got together and was like, yo, we need we need

964
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 2: to do this kid show. We need to work together,

965
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 2: YadA YadA, pull october Man and they did. And next

966
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: thing you know, we were five six, seven, twenty songs

967
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 2: deep and the show was getting created and animated and

968
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 2: it just blew up, you know, over almost Yeah. Yeah,

969
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: it's like over a quarter billion views. Yeah, it just

970
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: it really blew up. It's in Africas and it's everywhere now.

971
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: It doesn't make you look at the kid genre like differently, like, go, man,

972
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: there's money to be made over there. I mean I

973
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: hate to talk like that, but it doesn't make you

974
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 1: look at it like I mean, that's a whole space over.

975
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 2: There, there is. It's a whole space. And yeah, you

976
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 2: can be very lucrative making making children's music.

977
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: You ever You ever hear the Baby Sharks song and go, Yeah,

978
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: that drove me nuts. I hate that song, but I'm like, how.

979
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: And let it snow or let it let it, let

980
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 2: it go?

981
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: I love that song. Don't hate on that song.

982
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: Don't let it go.

983
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: So I was like, I was like, bro, let me

984
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: tell you something as an adult, which is good for

985
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: them without anybody any kids at the time, I definitely

986
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: downloaded Demi Levado's Let It Go without anybody knowing, like,

987
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: you know what other song? I have to admit to

988
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: an artist that I really liked when I was younger,

989
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 1: and I was ashamed to other artists.

990
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 2: It was.

991
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: I'm not going to No, it was Jewel. Jewel. You

992
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: don't know who that is? The white girl guitar folk music.

993
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: I like Jewel. I was definitely ashamed, didn't want anybody

994
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: to know about it. And I actually like Brittany's. If

995
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: you was black, you wasn't walk around like here with

996
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 1: Britney Spear, but you was watching the video when nobody

997
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: was around you was definitely you know, hitting a couple

998
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: of songs, you know, you know, yeah, so I had them.

999
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: And it's so funny because sometimes if you listen to

1000
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: my iTunes, you'll see them pop up and people be like,

1001
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: what's that?

1002
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 2: Like, I don't know click no no, no, no, no no,

1003
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 2: I'm about to play some gangster music.

1004
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: Do you ever do that? Do you have people that

1005
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: you listen to that you kind of weren't proud to

1006
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: listen to?

1007
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so.

1008
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: Let me come on, everyone has that one? No, I

1009
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: know dudes. The other day shout outs to Jerry back there.

1010
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 1: He said that he liked Taylor Swift. I'm not trying

1011
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: to put you out there, but.

1012
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 2: Taylor has some music for sure. She has I listened

1013
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 2: to like and when I say listen to it, I'm

1014
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 2: not in the car listen to it like I'll see

1015
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 2: an album. Actually, no, because I think Taylor's nineteen eighty

1016
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: four album or whatever. I was like, let me just

1017
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 2: see what this sounds like. I'm on the plane. By

1018
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 2: the time I get off plane and be done with

1019
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 2: the album, I listened to it straight through and I

1020
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: was like, god damgn it straight through. Really, I was

1021
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 2: like shit, and I was like, hey, she is dope.

1022
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm look it up now I'm writing. Oh. No,

1023
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,919
Speaker 2: I think nineteen eighty four was probably I can't believe

1024
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 2: I'm saying this.

1025
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: That's amazing. I love that you're saying that.

1026
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 2: I think it's nineteen eighty four, so you.

1027
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: Can relate to having that artist that.

1028
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: Really one of my favorite artists is John Mayer, so

1029
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 2: it kind of reminds me of that.

1030
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, John Mayor is pretty good.

1031
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, r Kelly Shade, John Mayer top three, and D'Angelo

1032
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: top four all time. Really absolutely, yep. Oh, I could

1033
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: listen to them.

1034
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: All day okay, and hip hop you can't say snoop

1035
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: Top three and hip hop can't say snoop because you

1036
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: know we're just gonna assume Jewel uh pray bang them out.

1037
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 2: Man, if I were to, really, I have to bump

1038
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 2: in the car.

1039
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: What do I mean half to? You don't listen to

1040
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: rap music?

1041
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 2: I do, But man, I was just banging Young Jeezy's album.

1042
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: Young Jeezy. There was one album that Jeeze put out

1043
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: that was really amazing and I still.

1044
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: Can't motivation one on one. I think it was listened

1045
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: to in the car and I'm.

1046
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: Just there was one where he had like a bunch

1047
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: of bullets shooting out his gun. I forgot what it is.

1048
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: It's my favorite song. I still can't find it to

1049
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: this day. I go through and I.

1050
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 2: Look for it. It's it's probably And I was just,

1051
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: is it a It's like hands in the air or

1052
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: something like that. It's because when it first starts out,

1053
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 2: it's like bloom boom boom boom boom boom boom bloom bloom.

1054
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 2: It's gotta that's gotta be it.

1055
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: I think it is, but I can't find it. I'll

1056
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: go through like every one when I'll go through and

1057
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: I listen.

1058
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 2: And I'm talking so much. D I really lived it, man.

1059
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 2: I was in the car, like yeah, and I was

1060
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: going to Target.

1061
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I don't know why I like that album,

1062
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: but so geez in Top three, man, between your mozzarella

1063
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 1: and your wrap is not good mozzarella rap. Okay, come on,

1064
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: come on, just hit me with the top three.

1065
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 2: Please. What's not my top three of all time? This

1066
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 2: is just what I'm about to bump in the car.

1067
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: Top three of all time.

1068
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 2: Oh no, you can't make me do that.

1069
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: Yes, you can't leave, you can't.

1070
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 2: No, I can't think of it. Okay, all right, okay, okay,

1071
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 2: I know one off the top, JA Cole off the top,

1072
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know Jacole, J Cole off

1073
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 2: the top, J Cole, jay Z.

1074
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: You mean jay z thn JA Coole.

1075
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just not in order, okay, j Z, jay Z,

1076
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 2: J Cole.

1077
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 1: Oh, I'll throw you out some some freebies just to

1078
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: help you out. There's Kanye, there's Wayne.

1079
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 2: Yeah after them. Yeah okay, okay, yay, and and and Wayne.

1080
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 2: I can yeah, I could go there you go, but

1081
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 2: you said top three.

1082
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: But okay, yeah, yeah, Wayne, Okay, I would.

1083
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 2: Do Wayne Bananas still.

1084
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, jay Z, who did you say was the second

1085
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: z Z? It would be jay Z, Wayne lyrically, jay Z, Carters, Bro.

1086
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 2: Jay Z, Lil Wayne, j Cole, Kanye, but no, because

1087
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 2: Kanye's cold blood.

1088
00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kanye would go before Ja Cole. I love you,

1089
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: I love you Jake Hole fans, and I know how

1090
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: much you guys love Jake Hole.

1091
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: It's gonna be so much. This is called this is

1092
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 2: gonna cost so much slander. We were good until we

1093
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 2: got the hip hop, and now it's gonna be nothing

1094
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: but slander.

1095
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: That's good. That's good. As long as long as they

1096
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: don't focus on your mozzarella ramen, you'll be safe.

1097
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 2: No they I wish they'd go back to that.

1098
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 1: Okay, so we have October nights. Is there a record

1099
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: on that song that you play or you played repeatedly?

1100
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, Which is the song that you like the

1101
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: most on that record? Oh?

1102
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: Probably kill Shot? Either kill Shot or uh it was

1103
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 2: an interlude at first, and then I can't remember what

1104
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 2: the hell name of the song.

1105
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: Is, but that's hilarious, okay, kill Shot? And then which song?

1106
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: Too much music? I don't, I don't. I don't. I

1107
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 2: don't remember a lot of it.

1108
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: Okay. And then when you write music, is it Taylor

1109
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: to just your life or is it Taylor to like

1110
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: things you see around you? Okay?

1111
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 2: Because I can't. Once people start doing it, you can

1112
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 2: make music for you. That's cool, but know that, you know,

1113
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 2: you got to reach out to an audience. Now it's

1114
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 2: like rappers getting rich and then that's all they talk

1115
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 2: about his rolls, voices and every like. You know what

1116
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like Drake does everything is oh, I'm at

1117
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 2: the my doing this. You like niggas about your album?

1118
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 2: They ain't all got a billion dollars.

1119
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: Bro. Speaking of Drake. Don't want to get off chap,

1120
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: but I hate Drape as a Drake as a singer.

1121
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: Any any parts of his album where he sings or

1122
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: does his whatever he does, I can't do it. I

1123
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: don't even listen to it. I just listen to the rap.

1124
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: That's it. How do you feel about that top Prime

1125
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: and please no time? Please? Oh my god? Do you

1126
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: feel the same way I loved it at first?

1127
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 2: I absolutely loved it.

1128
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: You know what I could tell because you're struggling with

1129
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: your rap, your rap, So yeah, I'll give you that.

1130
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: I can see that for you. I can see that

1131
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: for you. Hey, all right, is there any songs that

1132
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: you wrote that you were crying behind the booth? I

1133
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: have to know, you know, one where you tear it

1134
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: up right and come on, be mad enough to say it. Breakup?

1135
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 2: No, hell no, I've never done that. No, never done that. Breakup.

1136
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, there's no no break yeah

1137
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, no, no, no, there was only one and

1138
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: now I did a song called say I had a

1139
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: song called say Goodbye with that's because one of my

1140
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: best friends that passed away.

1141
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 2: That was only one. I've only cried on one song

1142
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 2: and that was that.

1143
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: Okay, And you cried during the making opp like had

1144
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: to take a break?

1145
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely several times? Okay, absolutely, but that's it, okay, Yeah,

1146
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 2: But as far as.

1147
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: Like, you're not crying over girls, oh my gosh, it's savage.

1148
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: Just so you guys know, October is very impressive in

1149
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: the music lane. Go out there, check out October Nights.

1150
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: It's out right now at right now. Hopefully we'll see

1151
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 1: him on tour. Yes, and shout outs to your crew.

1152
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: I know you guys have these micro waves on the

1153
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: tour buses. Please stay away from bunking near October for

1154
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: your own health. Matter of fact, just remove the microwave

1155
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:12,720
Speaker 1: from the bus.

1156
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get first off, I'm gonna get your new microwave.

1157
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: Why because you blew all the kilowats in this little

1158
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: it's twenty minutes? Is it done? For real?

1159
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 2: Just choking?

1160
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: All right? Thank you so much for your time. I

1161
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: had so much fun, even though I don't think I

1162
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: fully got your whole story.

1163
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's I can make the stuff, though. No.

1164
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: If you come back, I will teach you a quick,

1165
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: simple dish that you cannot burn down your house. It

1166
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: doesn't require a microwave. Yes, okay, you know when you're

1167
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: a mom, you learned twenty I call them like twenty

1168
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: dollars twenty minute like cool ass dishes that you can

1169
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: make that are banging. And I cook with a lot

1170
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 1: of high end like I cooked crab, lobster, a lot

1171
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: of seafood, and I still manage to do it under

1172
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: a budget. Just you know, tastes great, tastes great, Yeah

1173
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: you sure, as long as I have Butter'm good? Oh yeah,

1174
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: got butter, I'm good. I can't make anything taste but

1175
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: I just don't cook red meat.

1176
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and ranch have a ranch.

1177
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: I agree with that.

1178
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 2: Having in fact, like like I said, put on everything

1179
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 2: chili lasagna, not ramen pizza.

1180
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 1: No, no, did you say ranch on lazagna?

1181
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you just draped after it comes out of the oven.

1182
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: All the women out there, all the women out there,

1183
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 1: all the women out there. I'm telling you, if October

1184
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: asked you on a date, make sure it's at a restaurant.

1185
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: Make sure you don't go to his house in Cereal

1186
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: with some ranch, come to some butter. Do not go

1187
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: to this man's house. Come on through unless you ate first,

1188
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: Come on through, get this noodle.

1189
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 2: And with that.

1190
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: Guys, we signed out piece out, check out October London,

1191
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,959
Speaker 1: October Nights out album out right now.

1192
00:52:59,719 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 2: Hope.

1193
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: Well, he'll be back on tour. We can catch him

1194
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: in person singing Ye anything else and Doggie Land out

1195
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 1: anywhere on YouTube yep.

1196
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 2: And go get the toys. We just drop toys at

1197
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 2: Target and I think at Walmart too.

1198
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: Holy cow, these guys don't play. We are moving hustler

1199
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: spirits over here.

1200
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: Right. That's what I need to do. A kids cooking

1201
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 2: show there it is.

1202
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: I would love that. I would love that I would

1203
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: love that you can use our studio anytime. There you go,

1204
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: all right, Peace out, guys, peace, Peace for more. Eating

1205
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: while broke from iHeartRadio and The Black Effect, visit the

1206
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your

1207
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: favorite shows.