WEBVTT - Ep14 - Dev Patel / "Lion" 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:20.440 Welcome to Playback, a Variety podcast. I'm your host, Variety 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:23.560 Awards Editor Chris Tapley. On today's show, we take a 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:26.160 few reader questions and discussed the three major contenders of 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:29.480 the season Moonlight, La La Land, and Manchester by the Sea. 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:32.200 A little bit later, I'll be talking to Lion star 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:44.639 Dev Patel, So stick around, all right, folks, I'm back 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:47.360 with Janelle. Did you miss she took a week off? 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:51.480 I did. I can't speak for everybody else. If you didn't, 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:55.400 please don't let me know. Uh. People have their their 0:00:55.400 --> 0:01:00.440 ways of getting at us on Twitter is a great phrase. Yes, yeah, 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:03.320 absolutely getting under our skin. I did send up a 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:05.920 flare this week though, to get some questions and help 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:10.680 us through some of our chatter this week. Let's dive 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.520 into those because actually, before that, can we just talk 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.600 because it's so I want to do this. It so 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:19.360 rarely happens that I'm right about something, and I predicted 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:23.320 Latka would go with Moonlight. Yeah, I mean, I look, 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:26.319 let me have this. I know it's not like a 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:29.600 huge surprise out of left field, but I never get 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:32.440 the critics awards right. They can be tricky. I thought 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:35.040 that New York was going to do Manchester too. I 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:37.800 was gonna do Moonlight. Did not see La La land 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:40.080 coming for New York. I thought of anything La La 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:43.720 land would come from l A. And you know, I mean, 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:45.840 let's be honest, I think Moonlight was always going to 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:49.560 win the l A Film Critics. But New York picking 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:52.120 La La Landa's best picture, I'm sure made some people 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:55.560 not want to pick it. Oh yeah, like Peter said 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:58.560 on our on our show last week, sometimes l A 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:00.360 will look at New York and say, Okay, I've taken 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:02.920 that off the table. We can't not let it affect you. 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:05.840 Although um, I do have to point out that Mihrshela 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:09.520 ali one best supporting actor in both he is uh, 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:12.120 I think he's who won the No, they don't do 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:16.080 supporting right, and he was wrong Ensemble Award for that, 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:18.400 so I don't think they were eligible. Oh by the way, 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:20.920 I'm just seeing you now. I didn't get to tell you. 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:25.320 I ran into Peterburg yesterday and asked if he knew 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:29.600 what a fan um we were specifically you and uh, 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:32.720 He's like, yes, I'm me up, So make that happen. 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:35.959 An email in my inbox right now? Really about see 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:40.320 how it works fast, but he is delightful by the way. 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.080 I mean, have you ever interviewed him, No, I've just 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:46.480 seen him at like functions and stuff. I mean, no 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:48.960 nonsense and funny. And some of the stories he has 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.280 about Patriots Day, I kind of don't want to spoil 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:54.200 it because I know, like, um, but there is something 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:57.400 to do with an on star tracking device that I 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.560 was asking if it was true or not, and he 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:01.600 has He has an amazing story about that. He's an 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:04.800 amazing story about the actor who plays the main bomber, 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.040 how he basically walked in off the street and got 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:13.280 this part. The guys, he's fantastic, like a spinning image. 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:17.280 It's freaky. Yeah, uh yeah. I remember I met Peter 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:20.400 at some bar party and the girl he was with 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:24.080 was named Happiness. That's what I remember. Oh what did 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:25.960 he tell me yesterday? Oh? Do you know how he 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:28.200 got a sag card? Oh? Boy, let's hear it. This 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:32.000 is Janelle's favorite question every Q and A. Has anybody 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:34.280 ever like had to answer that question? Obviously? I guess 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.800 they have, like multiple times because they're always on panels. No, 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:40.200 I try not to if I know I've asked them. Um, yeah, 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:42.440 sometimes I start with like, Damna, Janelle, I told you 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:48.440 this last time. Yeah he was Anthony Edwards is stand 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:52.880 in on Miracle Mile and yes, and then um they 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:55.200 needed somebody to basically like jump in a helicopter or 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:57.120 something and say a line. So he did it and 0:03:57.120 --> 0:04:00.000 he got a SAG card and Mark Wahlberg was with him, 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.320 and then was very intrigued to know if um, Peter 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:05.520 Berg was on Chicago Hope at the same time Anthony 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:08.080 Edwards was on e R. And Peter was like, yeah, 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:09.680 I was. And Mark was like, so You've just been 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:14.040 following his shadow all these years and Anthony's directing now 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:18.799 Anthony uh Edwards? Oh yeah. I think for a while, 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:22.120 I think maybe TV, but maybe I'm wrong. Hang on, 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:24.279 I must know you've got a computer here and everything. 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.520 This is great because I thought that he was just 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:28.880 now doing a feature for some reason. I thought he'd 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:31.360 been directing TV for a while. But that's possible. I mean, 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:33.800 people like direct TV like nobody's business and you never 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.400 even realize it. Yeah, yeah, or make commercials. I was 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:42.240 born in Santa Barbara, who knew the Internet? My dead Boyfriend, 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:44.760 that's the movie he has this year. He did he 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:46.840 directed a bunch of R episodes, he did, I see, 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:48.840 That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure. But there's 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:51.920 this movie called My Dead Boyfriend anyway, so let's throw 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.840 it up to the crowd. Uh, we've got a question 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.840 from Thomas laugh. You know Tom Ras. I love Tom Ris. 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:03.680 She's curious to know. Uh. She says she's embarrassed to 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:08.320 behind a couple episodes. How dare you? How dare you? Uh? 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:10.520 How likely is it for who Pair to win Best 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:14.840 Actress instead of Portman or Stone? You don't think so? 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:17.640 I mean I have to say the thing I always 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:22.120 say is critics aren't voters. But I mean, for a 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.640 long time I wasn't even sure who Pair could get nominated, 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:27.720 And now she's looking like more and more of a 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:31.960 surer thing just knowing what that movie is. It's kind 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:34.760 of hard to imagine the entire Academy saying, yes, my 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:36.960 favorite performance of the year. It is a great performance, 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.440 and she is a legend and all of that, but 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:43.240 you know, a tough movie subject matter wise, and uh, 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:45.640 I just hope she gets in because I know we've 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:48.960 talked about this ad nauseum, but some great people are 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:51.360 going to be left out regardless of who the five, 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:53.400 I think she's in. Do you think Amy Adams is in? 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:57.400 Feel better now? I haven't all year, you know. I 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:59.840 guess she's closer now than ever. Really, in my mind, 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.240 I think she's in. The person I'm worried about is 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:08.640 Annette Benning. Okay, that would be striking, It would be 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:12.200 very strange. I don't think. I don't. I still have 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:14.279 her in there. I mean she looks, she's fantastic, and 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:17.240 she's Meryl, but it's it's I mean, you look, you've 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:19.800 got Ruth Nigga, You've got Natalie Portman, You've got Emma Stone, 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:21.960 and you've got t Rogi p Henson. You don't think 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:26.600 Taragi is it? No? I do, but um, it depends 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:28.840 on I think that movie is going to be huge, 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:32.160 so we'll see. Well, I think Emma's winning this, yes, 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.480 and cake Walk at this point. That's the one movie 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.520 that I've watched twice this year. Watched it again over 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:39.520 the weekend on screener because my wife wanted to see it. 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:41.640 I'm so mad because I had the screener of La 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:44.000 La Land and I put it in and this Marvel 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.359 menu came up and I was like what is happening? 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.800 It was Captain America Civil War. I don't understand how 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.960 that happens with the two studios, Like, no, it wasn't them, 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:53.760 it was the Oh I shouldn't be saying this, but 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:56.320 someone lent me the screener and I called them and 0:06:56.360 --> 0:07:00.920 I said, I said, gave you the wrong one. Well, 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.680 but then they said, I don't own Captain America Civil War. 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:08.880 So I don't know what This is a mystery worthy 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:13.800 of Paul all right, Mary Kringlefick, what a name? I 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:17.080 think it's real name is Murphy. Uh. He's concerned about 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:19.560 different films winning picture, director and screenplay. He seems to 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:22.560 think that La La Land will win picture, Moonlight would 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:27.120 win best Director, and Manchester Slash he thinks Silence would 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:30.440 win screenplay. But that's not gonna happen, Sir is adapted anyway, 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:34.200 right it is? Yeah. His question seems to be like, 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:36.400 is it best to spread the love like that? Or 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.760 is having a Best Picture winner that doesn't take director 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.320 and screenplay bad? I don't think it's bad. I mean 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:44.520 they're all you know, there's a holistic way to look 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.280 at things, but then everything is its own discipline. So 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.840 is the best film of the year, the best directed 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:55.120 film of the year probably, But I think there's examples 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:58.040 where you can spread the love and feel safe and 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:01.040 it's not weird. I have a weird alien and I 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.360 reserved the right to change her mind that director and 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:07.600 picture will not split this year. Yeah, I think. Uh. 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:10.440 I mean, look after I saw Silence, which is embargoed, 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:12.480 I finally was able to say, Okay, I think La 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:15.560 La Land is winning like eight oscars. Like I just 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:18.080 at this point, I feel like I could be dead wrong. 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:21.240 I mean, this hasn't happened since Slumdog. It's sweepers are 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:25.240 very rare nowadays. But you know it's going to be 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:28.560 so easy to give it like production design in costumes 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:34.200 and stuff, when you could see that happening. Crazy competitive category, yeah, crazy. 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:36.000 But I think it's tough to deny La La Land 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:39.840 because the songs really are integral to the movie, although 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.440 I have to say in Hidden Figures, Farrell has two 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:46.080 songs that are so right for the period and also 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.760 really sort of deal with the plot. Well, the first 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.200 one does running. That's the one I think they should 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:55.760 focus on. Actually I do too. What is the other one? 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:58.800 I see a Victor Victory, which actually is a song 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.439 that I love. But but Running is the one that 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:03.280 I feel is that's the one that when they have 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:06.000 that screening of all of the songs and context, that's 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.120 the one that will probably pop. And obviously mo wanna 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:10.840 and I don't know that, you know, he says Moonlight 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.280 winning director obviously Barry Is. We just said before we 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:17.000 started that when he's won the trifectas so far, Um, 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:19.600 I don't you know, I don't know that means he's 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:22.080 gonna win the Oscar. I think he absolutely deserves it. 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.240 But you know, this is a tough one for me 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:28.480 because both movies are so beautifully directed. They're so different 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:31.400 and amazing, and like you know, they have a chance 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:34.640 to make history and award the first African American director 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.839 an Academy Award. Um at the same time. Oh and 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:39.439 he also did a great job I should add it 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:42.679 to not just about that. Um, I think he's won 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:47.240 the screenplay really yeah, see that's that's interesting. I think 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:51.199 that he'll he'll take that from Manchester. You don't think 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:53.560 feel like weird right now because I never get into 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:57.360 predicting winners until like I know, I know, but now 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:59.199 it's fair to start talking about it because we've basically 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:01.920 seen everything and we kind of know it's down to 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:06.240 these three. Yeah, or maybe four. I'm still saying hidden figures? 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:10.800 Could you hidden figures today? Uh? Today? I've been been 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:12.880 pretty big on Hidden Figures since I saw it, mainly 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:15.120 because it's going to be such a crowd pleaser. We've 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:17.000 got Kevin Costner coming up on the podcast in a 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:18.800 couple of weeks. I think he gets nominated, and it 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:22.480 is possibly the only threat to Martial Ali. Really, I do. 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:27.199 He's so good in that movie. This is from Josh Tarpley. 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:30.000 Interesting last name. I thought I saw that yesterday and 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:32.520 I thought it said Tapley, and I was like, that's 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:36.840 my brother. Do Academy voters put any weight behind the 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:40.640 critics groups? Are they influential at all in the collective? 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:43.600 Maybe because you just everything, all the noise is influential. 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:45.520 But you know, no one says, well, the New York 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:47.640 critics picked, I don't. I don't really see. I mean 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:52.040 maybe regionally, Like I'm sure I spent a year covering 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:53.560 the season in New York and that was a very 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:55.760 different group of Academy people. You would see it every 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:59.200 event and there was a smaller group. Maybe they take 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:02.160 a lot of stock in in New York critics, but yeah, 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.080 I don't think. I think it's only in the aggregate 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:07.480 that things start to influence personally. I mean, look, it 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:10.240 can't hurt, you know, keep seeing as about who Pair's 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:12.800 name out there, and then maybe that's where it helps. 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:16.160 Whenever someone's like on the bubble and it's like, well 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:17.920 this apparently I guess about who Pair is great in 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:19.240 this film, and they put it in there like yes, 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:21.880 and and that helps absolutely. I think that's the critics 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:25.439 job really this time of year, is to help elevate 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:28.280 certain things that aren't getting the love, you know, speaking 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.960 of can we talk about the Critics Choice Award nominations 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:34.120 real quick? And I'm very disappointed and all of you 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:37.120 who did not put Vigo Morton's in in for a 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:41.120 Lead actor nomination. He got the comedy nomination. That's how 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:44.000 That's how the b f C A like gets away 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:47.920 with basically nominating everybody for everything, like yeah, they have 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:51.360 comed categories and fantastic and so if he Goes got 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:56.840 a comedy nomination there and Gnome Chomsky is hilarious. I mean, 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:59.240 the movie has comedy in it in the same way 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:02.040 that Manchester by the See has some really funny stuff 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.920 in it. But you're looking at me weird, but it's 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:06.600 so funny. I was we had a Q and A 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:09.240 last week for Manchester by the Sea, and I was 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:11.520 waiting in the lobby and I heard like these peals 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:13.680 of laughter, and I was like, am I at the 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:16.000 right theater? And then I remembered, like, oh no, there's 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:18.800 there's some really funny parts. They have all these categories, 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:21.400 these genre categories. It's like it's like the year they 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:24.400 nominated Jennifer Lawrence, like for Hunger Games and Action movie 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:26.960 and for Silver Linings and comedy or whatever it was. 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:28.880 It was just like all these opportunities to get her 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:33.040 on the stage to give a speech, and the questioner 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:35.760 is accepting his award during the commercial break. That's really smart. 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:40.040 But I've rated them enough about that. Andrew Garfield silence 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:43.120 or haxel Ridge cancel himself out. I agree. I think 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.080 Haxall is going to be the more well liked film 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:48.120 across the board. God, I'm turning into one of these 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.280 people who speaks as the Academy as a whole. But 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.559 the Academy voters that I've talked to really love that movie. 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:57.160 I think it's in for Best Picture. I think Gibson 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:01.680 is probably getting in. See it possible, Yeah, it seems 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:04.079 very possible. I told you, I think that. Over the weekend, 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:06.480 I was at a hotel and they must have been 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:08.640 doing some press for hacks our Ridge, because well, first 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:11.000 I saw Vince Vaughn walked by and I was like hey, 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:13.200 He's like hey, and then I'm like, oh, I don't 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:16.080 know you. Sorry. You know when you see someone like 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:18.680 that you're really familiar with, and then realize, oh, we 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:21.679 don't know each other. Um. And then I briefly ran 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:24.200 into Andrew Garfield and I saw Mel Gibson leave, and 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:27.480 thirty seconds later Denzel Washington walked in and I was 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:31.280 like a conversation. Yeah, can I tell you a quick 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:34.439 sidebar and a funny Denzel Washington story. Um, we were 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:37.600 doing a Q and A for Fences, and I mentioned, um, 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:40.360 how thrilling it must be to bring August Wilson's work 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:43.000 to a wider audience. And he interrupts me and says, 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:47.160 you did say wider, right, And he's like, sorry, couldn't resist. 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:52.360 I'm sure that clicked immediately. Yeah. What uh, this is 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.440 a good question from Marshall Schaefer. That last one came 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:58.760 from stone Field source. By the way, oh the Silencer, 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:00.760 And now I haven't seen Silence, I should admit, But 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:02.520 I just think hacks out Ridge is that he's good 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:06.720 in Silence, and it's it's it's a more internal performance, 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:10.080 I guess, although it's he does emotional stuff. I just 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:12.599 think that this boils down to the movie, and I 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:14.200 think hacks All is going to be more well liked 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.600 for Marshall wants to know which of the big three 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:20.000 that we're talking about, Moonlight, La La, Land and Manchester 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:23.400 is likeliest to peak early, like Social Networker Boyhood. That's 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:26.800 always a good question. Um, I don't know. I mean 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:35.680 the time and I mean La La Lan finally opens? 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:39.000 Is it this week unlimited release? Yeah? I think that, 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:42.520 you know, people think that a movie peaks early, like 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:44.600 like the answer to this question for many is probably 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:47.600 gonna end up being Moonlight after the fact, But that's 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:50.640 simply because they think that it's the Best picture threat 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:52.360 right now. And I do not think that it's a 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:55.440 threat to win Best Picture. Yeah, I just I think 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:57.400 it's a It's an amazing film, the best of the year, 0:14:57.480 --> 0:14:59.880 but I don't think it's one that will translate to 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.520 a vast body of people like this and that La 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:06.160 La Land is so much such an easier vote. Interesting though, 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:09.720 you talk to people who see Moonlight and everyone connects 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:12.080 with it. Yeah, I haven't seen to a single person 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:14.120 who said it was okay. If it wins, it would 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:16.280 just it would be staggering to me, like I would 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:19.640 be so impressed. And I've never been so impressed by 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:22.600 the Academy, so why should I expect to now? And again, 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:24.320 it's not like I'm beating up on them. It's just 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:25.800 that it's such a fast group of people. I mean, 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:29.600 you're talking about like seven thousand people. And you know, 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:31.520 how how how does the musical that takes place in 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:33.640 Los Angeles that is critically acclaimed and just win New 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:36.440 York Film Critics Prize not win that award and leave 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:39.320 you smiling all day? But I think at all three 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:42.520 have done a really good job of not peeking too early. 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:47.000 You know, we're not December, and we're not sick of 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:50.880 any of them. You know, give it time, right, And 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:52.960 then last one here from Daniel, do you think the 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:54.800 Oscar is so white movement will take hold this year, 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:56.760 especially with a film like La La Land destined to 0:15:56.760 --> 0:16:00.680 win big. That's a good question. I mean, if obviously 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:02.360 it's not going to take hold in the nomination, I 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:05.720 think that there's going to be an outsize number of 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:08.520 nominations for people of color, which is pretty really exciting 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:11.920 and all deserving. But then if La la En ends 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:13.880 up being the sweeper that I'm talking about, does that 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:17.400 then open the door for that conversation to poke through. 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:19.400 I don't know. I mean, I think that Denzel's winning 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:21.400 Best Actor. I think that Violet Davis is winning Best 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:24.560 Supporting Actress, and Marshall Ali seems really strong for Best 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:27.880 Supporting Actor. That should be a pretty big moment, and 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:31.040 especially Denzel because he'll be one of like seven people 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:34.160 to have won three Oscars for acting. I'm really you know, 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:36.400 for the longest time, I was after I saw Fences, 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:38.640 I was like, well, it's over. It's Denzel. I I 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:40.720 don't know, you know, it's it's obviously down to him 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:45.080 and Casey Affleck and both deserving, both fantastic, both in 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.720 you know, just powerhouses, and uh, for a long time 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:50.600 I thought Casey couldn't take it because it's such an 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:53.680 internal performance. But the more I talked to people, the 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:57.480 more people really really love that movie. Those are the two. 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:01.240 Those are the two that are contending. I mean I 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:03.000 was when I was watching La La La again, I 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:06.840 was like, is there a possibility for Gosling to swoop 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.000 in there? Because he has I wondered about that too. 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:10.720 To be honest, the powder dry on him in a 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:12.840 way because he's been doing Blade Runner the whole time 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.080 he's in town. He's doing He's back this week and 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.600 it's like, it's interesting, you know, he's probably gonna win 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:21.960 the Globe, right, Like, yeah, I think his only competition 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:24.640 would be Hugh Grant. Really yeah, so he's gonna win that. 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:28.840 Um yeah, No, I I am definitely not ruling out 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:32.520 Ryan Gosling. There's a lot of road left on this season. 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:36.440 If I sound nasally, I'm still fighting over I'm also sick. 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:38.560 I don't know if you can tell. I'm sorry everyone. 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:42.720 The two interviews I recorded last week, Kevin Costner and 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:46.240 Deaf Patel, which is this week's interview, I had like 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:48.960 congestion for both of them. I was fighting it so much. 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:51.240 So if you hear that on the interview. I'm so sorry, 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:53.439 but he had he was sick too. Oh yeah, he 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:56.840 was like burning the candle at both ends. I saw him. Um, 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:58.880 he did some Q and as at the Arc Light 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:02.199 over Thanksgiving weekend end and he was with Sonny the 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:05.359 little Boy who plays him as a kid in the 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:10.440 real Seru Brierley and my god, that sunny. I think 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:14.359 he's seven or nine somewhere around there. He is a 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:19.160 superstar in the making, definitely. Yeah, he is charming, adorable 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:22.880 and a really good actor. Well, uh, it's a great 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:25.600 conversation we have with so. I'm sure he's amazing. So 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:50.359 enjoy that. After this, it's so stop where you're from? Calcutta, 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:57.960 hitch pod, I'm adopted. I'm not really. I mean we're 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:02.720 starting to remember. So got a beautiful boy, very proud 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:11.639 of yourself live. I'd forgotten. Okay, I had another family, 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:16.920 her mother, her brother. I can still see their faces, 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:22.200 and it happened. How long are you on the train? 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:29.560 A couple of days? A couple of days. They would 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:32.400 take a lifetime to search all the stations in India. 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:40.280 What if you do find home keeping, I don't have 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:55.480 a choice. What was she like? Yeah. Every night, I 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:58.240 imagine that I'm walking those streets home and I know 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:10.119 every single step of the way. I wish gerdery. Welcome 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:13.480 back everyone. I'm here with dev btel star of two 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:16.640 films this year and as I'm missing one actually Ryan 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:19.280 and the Man who Knew Infinity. Thanks for coming on 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:22.600 the show man, Apretyanks, thanks for having me. Uh, I 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:26.320 want to go back, you know obviously too too when 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:28.880 most people became aware of you, obviously some some dog 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:32.600 millionaire eight years ago. Now, Uh does it feel like 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:38.399 eight years? It feels like Uh, it does feel like. Hey, yes, absolutely, 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:40.600 I've been doing a lot. I've been doing a fat 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:45.720 bit um. It's yeah, it's been an interesting journy when 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:48.080 you kind of first shot out of the cannon, so 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:51.239 to speak, with that movie, Uh, what was your like 0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:55.240 personal mandate, Like what goals did you have for yourself 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:57.760 in this business? And however they may be shifted in 0:20:57.800 --> 0:21:02.280 the last couple of years, they are. You know when 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:04.960 I that was my first film, and I came off 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:07.600 a television show that had been literally plucked off the 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:11.760 streets from so I was still still trying to grasp 0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:14.320 the art of acting in front of a camera. You know, 0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:16.119 when I was did the TV show before that, I 0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:18.560 didn't know what a boom might look like, or what 0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:23.560 speed meant or anything but the word action. And then 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:26.080 the next audition I got was for this film, and 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:29.920 I got it, and it was a real blessing because 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:33.760 it opened up so many opportunities for me. But at 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:37.040 the same time, you know, I felt, you know, for 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:39.000 your first film to come out, and when eight oscars 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:42.720 and you're you're suddenly like you say, cannon balled into 0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:46.520 this limelight and you're walking these carpets with these cinematic grates, 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:49.600 it kind of gives you a level of anxiety because 0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:52.520 you you know, I was seventeen eighteen at the time, 0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:55.000 and I was like, God, I really haven't been able 0:21:55.040 --> 0:22:00.960