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Speaker 1: Smell us.

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Speaker 2: Now, lady, welcome to Meet Eater Trivia MEA podcast.

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Speaker 3: Whea, Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am

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Speaker 3: Mountain Time on November fourteenth, and we're live from Meet

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Speaker 3: Eater HQ and Bozeman, Montana. I'm your host, Spencer new Arth,

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Speaker 3: joined today by Steve Ranella and Giannis Putellis. On today's show,

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Speaker 3: we're interviewing the world's greatest white tailed deer photographer Matt Hanson.

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Speaker 3: Then we've got a migration report from Flying vs Matt McCormick,

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Speaker 3: followed by one minute fishing with doctor Randall Williams. After that,

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Speaker 3: we'll look at old hunting and fishing pictures for a

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Speaker 3: new segment called Throwback Thursday. And finally we'll interview a

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Speaker 3: journalist about how forty three monkeys escaped a South Carolina

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Speaker 3: research facility. But first that is more about, go ahead,

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Speaker 3: what do you got a few things?

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Speaker 4: The white child? Dear photographer. I don't view it. It's

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Speaker 4: not gonna be an interview. It's gonna be a criticism,

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Speaker 4: okay by one of our three hosts. Yes, you're not

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Speaker 4: going to interview about how they escape. It's kind of

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Speaker 4: more about like what about how they escaped? Sure, because

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Speaker 4: like you have to interview the monkeys.

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Speaker 3: How would you phrase it?

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Speaker 4: Then? What do you think the interviews, We're going to

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Speaker 4: talk to him about the escape of a bunch of monkeys,

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Speaker 4: not how did they escape? I think that if you

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Speaker 4: have one of the monkeys coming on and we're like,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna talk to the monkey about how he escaped,

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Speaker 4: I think that's interesting.

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Speaker 3: Well, maybe our journalist has talked to one of these monkeys,

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Speaker 3: because I've heard that they've captured some by now.

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Speaker 4: Oh well, okay, I had another problem with something you said.

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Speaker 4: But go on, Oh you go on?

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Speaker 3: What else? Eh?

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Speaker 4: No, No, I'm just glad to be here.

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Speaker 3: It seems like Yanni, the first thing tell us about

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Speaker 3: your Wisconsin whitetail hunt. See is this all right to

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Speaker 3: interest you?

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Speaker 4: No? No, okay, do you know what happened? Talk to me?

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Speaker 3: Do you? How do you know what happened?

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Speaker 4: That's like, what more is there to say? Fixtures speak

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Speaker 4: for themselves.

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Speaker 3: I hear you.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's a point in the fall to where

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Speaker 2: you get to the point like early on or I'm like, man,

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Speaker 2: I want to hear everybody's hunting story, you know, detailed

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Speaker 2: by detail, and then as it wears on when someone

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Speaker 2: has killed one, I'm like, good, awesome deer, and then

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Speaker 2: let's move on and where are you at now? And

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Speaker 2: then I'm still I'm still pretty keen on listening to stories.

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Speaker 3: Somebody said to me last week. They said, the meat

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Speaker 3: eater like group chat must be popping off right now,

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Speaker 3: like everyone's like the rut's doing this. I just saw this.

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Speaker 3: My trail cams are blowing up. I said, no, in fact,

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Speaker 3: it's not. There was a group chat, but then Yanni

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Speaker 3: just started texting me on the side because we were

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Speaker 3: the only ones who were engaging.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was a little offended by those fun by

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Speaker 2: those guys. You know I when I use the F

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Speaker 2: word on them, you know it's it's in. It's an endearment, but.

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Speaker 4: The effort being offended offended?

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Speaker 3: No, oh, it starts with f U and then ends

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Speaker 3: an E R S. But Yanni stopped at about the

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Speaker 3: f U in there.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I started. It was basically the group from

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Speaker 2: one week in November. So if you go back and

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Speaker 2: watch that, you can see who I'm talking about. But

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Speaker 2: I texted all of them and was kind of like

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Speaker 2: starting the rut, white tail rut group chat now and

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Speaker 2: dead silence from everybody besides Spencer.

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Speaker 3: And after a.

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Speaker 2: Couple of back and forth, I'm like, well, I guess

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Speaker 2: we're chocking, and yeah, I like.

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Speaker 4: When I get into a group text, I liked, I'll look,

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Speaker 4: but I don't want. I don't I don't engage. I look,

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Speaker 4: but I don't add to it.

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Speaker 3: But that's your You're a bad You're a bad member

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Speaker 3: then of the group chat. No, not a desirable person

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Speaker 3: to have in the group chat at that point.

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Speaker 4: My neighborhood has a group chat, and it's most like

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Speaker 4: it'd be like, oh, there's a bear over there, like

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Speaker 4: there's two moose fighting in the yard, or like we

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Speaker 4: day I was gonna send one out because my kids

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Speaker 4: pigeons went to live somewhere else. We don't know where

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Speaker 4: they went to live in and I was gonna two

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Speaker 4: and I was going to send out a note saying,

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Speaker 4: I said, this will be the first time I've ever

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Speaker 3: Group chat that seemed worthy of a text.

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Speaker 4: And my kids teased me about it, and then I

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Speaker 2: I think that sort of group chat that's acceptable behavior

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Speaker 2: because it's not a group of friends, it's a grand

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Speaker 2: on a grander scale, it's an entire neighborhood, and there's

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Speaker 2: probably thirty people, maybe forty people.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, quite a few.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, I would call it a little bit shunned that

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Speaker 2: no one else wanted to. I mean, we know that

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Speaker 2: everybody else is hunting deer and that they didn't want

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Speaker 2: to participate AnyWho.

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Speaker 3: I shouldn't have to find out on Instagram that Mark

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Speaker 3: Kenyan killed a buck.

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Speaker 2: He should be That's what I'm talking about right there,

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what I'm talking about. You'll know, buddy, when

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Speaker 2: I'm off Instagram. You'll know immediately if you're in my

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Speaker 2: circle or not, because you either will be getting.

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Speaker 3: Texts hey, how's the rout going?

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Speaker 4: Or you won't be. You didn't send me anything. I

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Speaker 4: got a little group text with two people about my

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Speaker 4: beaver cam.

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Speaker 3: We'll start a new one. You know, Chester needs to

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Speaker 3: be in it because I was.

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Speaker 4: Gonna happen in this show.

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Speaker 3: No, no, I'll tell you this. We set aside like

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Speaker 3: you got five to go, all right. Really, I had

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Speaker 3: a feeling this would happen. I know.

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Speaker 2: I started hunting. November fourth was my first day. The

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Speaker 2: area that I was hunting minutes the area that I

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Speaker 2: was hunting. This is a there's been a trend now

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Speaker 2: where the weather forecast is a quarter inch of rain

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Speaker 2: someone's like, oh did you hear it rained three.

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Speaker 3: Inches in so and so County? Well that's what I had.

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Speaker 2: So it got so bad the second day that I

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Speaker 3: Water logged and you know, shit the bed.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So day three, good wind. I sit on a

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Speaker 3: No deer.

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Speaker 2: I moved down to food for the evening. No deer

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Speaker 2: it like a deer sighting because it wasn't in my

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Speaker 2: little bubble, right. It wasn't like oh I might get

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Speaker 4: It was like some deer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, Day four, the wind is just right for the

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Speaker 2: Oak flat. Like, I'm gonna go sit the oak flat

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Speaker 2: first thing in the morning. Pretty good buck. I sent

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Speaker 2: you a picture of the buck and you're like, that's

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Speaker 2: not a shooter. I'm like, well, what you don't know

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Speaker 2: is that he's got a nice frame. But like he

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Speaker 2: and everything else is these little nubs.

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Speaker 4: So here's a good photo of him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I tell you what that morning, because it

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Speaker 2: the oak flat and those dark antlers are all wet

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Speaker 2: and the sun's just kind of punching through a little bit.

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Speaker 2: It's getting enough angle, and so those antlers are glistening.

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Speaker 2: And you know, we all say, oh, we like to

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Speaker 3: But in all.

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Speaker 2: Honesty, if you even hesitate on that white tailed deer,

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Speaker 2: I don't here it's a dough or a buck.

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Speaker 3: You hesitate and this you know, it sound.

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Speaker 2: Like you're sitting there going, well, let me break out

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Speaker 2: the pros and cons of this buck. You hesitate, you

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Speaker 2: passed that buck, because that's kind of what happened.

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Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I don't know. I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 3: that opportunity's gone.

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Speaker 4: You say, quick cut him off where I have like

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Speaker 4: ten seconds, You got two minutes. Oh it's really yeah,

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Speaker 4: save me ten seconds.

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Speaker 2: And uh so he comes through first, A seven point

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking, man, if I can get like up buck

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Speaker 2: to come through every two hours today, no seven, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have a hell of the day. Well, the

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Speaker 2: next two deer does, but they do come in on

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Speaker 2: like the every two hour schedule. And then the fifth

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Speaker 3: Through at about three point thirty.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I figured out a way to kind

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Speaker 3: There's yourself something huh you look at your cel phone.

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Speaker 3: There is that.

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Speaker 2: I try not to because the oak flat, the farthest

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Speaker 2: they're coming.

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Speaker 4: Don't have time to text.

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Speaker 3: I gotta go into your group chat, and so I

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Speaker 2: But you can always tell yourself something, right, It's like

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Speaker 2: there's the morning, Oh, the morning's exciting. Oh then there's

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Speaker 2: the midday. Well that's when the big bucks are on

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Speaker 2: when the big buck's going to come through. And then

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Speaker 2: you get to three and you're like, oh, now it's

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Speaker 2: the prime time until five until dark, right, Sure, so

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Speaker 2: Dough comes in at three point thirty. She's not supposed

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Speaker 2: to go behind me, because I've got this wall of

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Speaker 2: cut maples thrown down that is supposed to deter any

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Speaker 2: deer to get behind me and downwind of me. Yes,

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Speaker 2: she takes a split second look at it and just

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Speaker 2: weaves right into there, and I'm like, son of a bitch,

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Speaker 2: you know, like she hesitated, but not long enough to

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: So I had my bone hand. I was gonna shoot her,

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Speaker 2: no opportunity. I was gonna shoot her because I'm just

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Speaker 2: into shooting deer. So I'm uh, you know.

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Speaker 4: I thought you were big buck hunting.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, well I was, but I was also dough hunting

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Speaker 3: helps him big buck hunt. M hm.

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Speaker 2: And uh so forty five minutes later, I mean, picture perfect.

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Speaker 2: What I love about seeing these white tails and those

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Speaker 2: that white set of antlers, right, because their body just

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Speaker 2: blends in like part of the the it's the tapestry,

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Speaker 3: You don't have to sell me.

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Speaker 4: The only reason I'm inviting you is to make him jealous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, damn good because poverty Pat was kind of running this,

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Speaker 4: It is kind of like his deal, So maybe you're out. Spencer.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of picture perfect whitetail scenes like Yanni had. Our

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Speaker 3: If you don't know his name, you certainly know his work,

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Speaker 3: which has been used across the hunting industry. Matt, Welcome

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Speaker 5: Hey, what's up, guys?

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Speaker 4: How's going good?

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Speaker 3: Matt? Tell us where you're standing today, not in the office.

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Speaker 5: Nice soggy Midwestern day. And then one of my honey holes.

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Speaker 5: Uh well, he used to be a honey hole. One

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Speaker 3: Okay, one of your honey holes. Now, tell us about

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Speaker 3: Is it private ground, state parks, national park, city parks, like, like,

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Speaker 5: Yes, all the above. Right now, I'm in a metro area,

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Speaker 5: And then I also do the national parks. I have

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Speaker 3: Okay, Steve the floors you will so well you want

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Speaker 3: me to tell them? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hold on, but first, Matt, are you are you

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Speaker 4: Camera? Okay, do you hunt? Do you hunt with a

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Speaker 5: I shot a meal deer in a prong horn last

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Speaker 3: Huh. Now, Steve had some thoughts about where some of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to hear this criticis.

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Speaker 4: Well, what I was sharing with the boys here, and

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Speaker 4: Like I think if you're putting a deer a photo

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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, I hear that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what so, like what percentage of white tails that

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Speaker 4: Because you're getting people excited and it's not true.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well it's just like all the alk photos you see,

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Speaker 3: That should be illegal too, Matt, tell folks where they've

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Speaker 5: Generally all about hunting magazines. Currently I have Peterson's Hunting

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Speaker 5: Spencer has been very good to me for the website doing.

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Speaker 5: I think it's over two hundred articles now.

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Speaker 3: Some it is so and how how many how many

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Speaker 5: It's well over one hundred now. I've been doing this

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Speaker 4: And how is that good run?

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Speaker 3: How has the white tail photography business changed over the

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Speaker 4: Is it?

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Speaker 3: Is it getting harder to make a living doing this?

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Speaker 5: Yes, but obviously with the everything changing to online makes

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Speaker 3: Steve, you feel a little bad now for criticizing him, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: But the wheels that are turning into my head is,

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Speaker 4: all of our dear, all of our wildlife photography is

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Speaker 3: I thought you were gonna go a different direction, say

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, I don't care what they do.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Matt, tell us tell us about your favorite tell

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Speaker 5: Okay, there's a lot of them, but the one that

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Speaker 5: It's just a really nice buck with a huge vapor

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Speaker 4: See you, Phil.

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Speaker 3: It's not prep Steve.

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Speaker 4: Oh, that's called BAP. Yeah, bad at producing.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so your favorite photo? How big was that white

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Speaker 4: Was? Was he a giant or standard?

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Speaker 5: Backlit, really cold morning and he's right on the edge

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Speaker 5: Bosses, and I feel a lot of hunters don't get

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Speaker 4: Hmm Yeah, snort wheeze.

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Speaker 3: If you don't know that, Wow, that's like the most

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Speaker 3: That's telling another white tail I'm gonna whoop your ass

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Speaker 5: Yes, a lot on this property.

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Speaker 3: Actually, oh, so.

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Speaker 5: his office now, which is pretty that's good.

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Speaker 3: But have you ever been Oh okay, Phil now has

441
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Speaker 3: Matt's favorite photo of all time on the screen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks like that deer eat squirrels. Man. Uh huh.

443
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,160
Speaker 3: When people say that a big buck for the cover

444
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Speaker 3: of outdoor magazines, that's what they're talking about Matt. Where

445
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Speaker 3: has that photo been used before?

446
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Speaker 5: That was on the cover of Quality White Tails. So

447
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Speaker 5: actually that afternoon I went to a Chick fil A

448
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Speaker 5: and immediately sent it to Lindsay and he was like, yep,

449
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Speaker 5: so that was on the following cover. Yeah, it's normally

450
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Speaker 5: it doesn't happen that quickly because you shoot like this year,

451
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Speaker 5: I'm going to be selling for next fall. But this

452
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 5: was just a perfect thing that worked out. November fourteenth,

453
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Speaker 5: there's still time for the Winner issue to come out,

454
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Speaker 5: and it was just meant to be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that buck is worthy of an outdoor magazine. Matt,

456
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Speaker 3: good luck with the rest of your photo taking and

457
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Speaker 3: you're hunting this fall. You can see Matt's work on

458
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Speaker 3: our website. Any magazine rack you look at in a

459
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Speaker 3: gas station or grocery store, if you see your beautiful

460
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 3: picture of a white tail, there's a decent chance that

461
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Speaker 3: that belongs to Matt Hanson.

462
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Speaker 4: Got Phil's tearing it up. Now look at all this photos.

463
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 4: He's tearing it a new one over there.

464
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 6: Now, Ryan says, which doesn't mean what you're thinking.

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Speaker 3: It means wonderful at producing says Ryan.

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Speaker 4: Uh and uh.

467
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Speaker 3: If you are part of our YouTube audience, you can

468
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Speaker 3: see the full pictures.

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Speaker 4: Oh I like that one too.

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Speaker 3: Good job, Phil, all right, have a good day in

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Speaker 3: the woods, Phil, all right. Our next segment is the

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Speaker 3: Migration Report.

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Speaker 4: When you can sun food and the cham sassle, then

474
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Speaker 4: you suffer.

475
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Speaker 3: Alright, Chrishan is the West? What do you boys like that?

476
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 3: I couldn't understand what it said.

477
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Speaker 5: Now.

478
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Speaker 3: The Migration Report is where Matt McCormick gives a waterfowl

479
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Speaker 3: hunting forecast for each flyway.

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Speaker 4: Take it away, Matt.

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Speaker 7: Hey guys, I'm Matt McCormick with Flying V and welcome

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Speaker 7: to the meat Eater Migration Report from November fourteenth, twenty

483
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Speaker 7: twenty four. I'm reporting, do you live from the gorge

484
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Speaker 7: here in southwest Montana? And we are witnessing significant shifts

485
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Speaker 7: in the waterfowl migration as we move deeper into November.

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Speaker 4: Let's dive right.

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Speaker 7: In here in the Pacific Flyway. We have mega cold

488
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Speaker 7: weather on the way. We're talking like single digits up

489
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Speaker 7: in Alberta. This cold snap will absolutely freeze up the

490
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Speaker 7: small holding water up in Alberta and should push some

491
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Speaker 7: of those birds from the Peace River area, hopefully all

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Speaker 7: the way down into the States.

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Speaker 4: The Pacific Northwest.

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Speaker 7: Is already seeing a big influx of wigeon on the

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Speaker 7: front end of this storm.

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Speaker 4: And although overall goose numbers are.

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Speaker 7: Down over here in the Pacific Flyway, reports are showing

498
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Speaker 7: good movement into all the staging areas across the flyway.

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Speaker 7: Here in Montana, we are experiencing a steady flow of

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Speaker 7: ducks arriving daily over the last few weeks, but we're

501
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Speaker 7: all ready for a little bit colder weather. In the

502
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Speaker 7: Central Flyway, cold fronts and north winds have picked up

503
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Speaker 7: the pace of the migration. There are still a pile

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Speaker 7: of birds balled up right there at the Canadian US border,

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Speaker 7: but South Dakota does still hold a large concentration of

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Speaker 7: both ducks and geese. The front end of that migration

507
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Speaker 7: is pushing all the way down into Kansas and Oklahoma,

508
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Speaker 7: and I know those guys down in Oklahoma are just

509
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 7: beating them up right now on that leading edge. As

510
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Speaker 7: temperatures continue to drop over the next few weeks, hunters

511
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Speaker 7: can expect increased activity and fresh.

512
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Speaker 4: Arrivals all along the flyways.

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Speaker 7: So if you guys are wondering if you should go hunting,

514
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 7: now is the time It's been a little bit of

515
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Speaker 7: an unusual year for everybody in the Mississippi Flyway, with

516
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Speaker 7: ten being above average, but the migration is still progressing steadily.

517
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 7: Recent rains have improved habitat conditions, setting the stage for

518
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 7: prime duck hunting opportunities, and the geese aren't all that

519
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 7: far behind. Hunters in Minnesota can look forward to those

520
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 7: big migration days that everyone has been waiting for. They're

521
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Speaker 7: on their way boards, So call up your bodies, load

522
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 7: up the guns, get in the pit, and go hunting

523
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Speaker 7: because they're coming. Lastly, in the Atlantic Flyway, migration activity

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Speaker 7: is gradually increasing, much like the other parts of the country.

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Speaker 7: Colder temperatures and improved habitat conditions are expected to drive

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Speaker 7: movement in the upcoming weeks. Hunters along the eastern seaboards

527
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Speaker 7: should keep a close eye on weather patterns, as they'll

528
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Speaker 7: play a really big role in the timing and the

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Speaker 7: volume of the incoming birds. I know that there's a

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Speaker 7: bunch of birds up in the Saint Lawrence regions. Still

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Speaker 7: they will push down into you guys here shortly. That's

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Speaker 7: it for this week's migration report. Whether you're hunting sheet

533
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 7: water in the Pacific Northwest, or gearing up for some

534
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 7: big MiG days in the Mississippi Flyway. The upcoming weather

535
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 7: patterns are setting the stage for some killer hunting ahead.

536
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 7: This is gonna be exciting, guys. November is here. We're

537
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 7: all looking forward to the cooler weather. Stay tuned for

538
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 7: more updates and good luck out there.

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Speaker 4: Back to you guys, hot damn, oh good damn. Phil.

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00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 4: You know what you ought to do? Man, I would

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Speaker 4: rig it up where when he's doing that, it's got

542
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 4: one of those weatherman things in the background.

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00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 6: M that sounds like a lot of money and work.

544
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 4: And yeah, he points and it's like all kinds of

545
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 4: graphics and like arrows, do you know what I mean?

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00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, that sounds incredible. I'd love to see it.

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00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 4: That's how I would rigged out.

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Speaker 3: Steve. I've seen some news lately about the geese arriving

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00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 3: at Freeze Out Lake in Montana. That's a place I've

550
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 3: heard you talk.

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00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 4: We used to do it every year.

552
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 3: What's your relationship with that lake?

553
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 4: Oh? We go hunt snow geese. Uh huh, and we

554
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 4: call the hotline. This is pre internet. The Internet wasn't

555
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 4: as souped up as it is now. I liked it

556
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 4: better back then. I was telling someone their day right

557
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 4: in this room. The main thing I like about the

558
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 4: internet is you can watch the world's greatest hockey goals

559
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 4: of all time in slow motion.

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Speaker 3: That's your favorite thing.

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00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 4: There's so much more going on than you'd think is

562
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 4: going on. That's a good use of the Internet. But

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Speaker 4: I preferred it when you would call the hotline and

564
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 4: they would estimate they'd be like eight thousand snows, twenty

565
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 4: thousand snows, twenty five thousand snows, and then you drop

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Speaker 4: everything freezer.

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Speaker 3: This hotline still exists.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I think it's all I think

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Speaker 4: it's all online not stupid.

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Speaker 3: Now, are you impressed by like the trickery of the

571
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Speaker 3: shooter or the reaction of the goalie, or when you're

572
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 3: watching these slow mo hockey shots.

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Speaker 4: The puck handling is unlike? Yeah. And the thing is,

574
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 4: me and Randall were talking about this prior to this,

575
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Speaker 4: maybe two guys knew what happened mmmmm, the like maybe

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00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 4: two people knew what exactly happened on that goal. Sure,

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Speaker 4: meaning when you're coming in and like the pucks like

578
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 4: between your feet and you and you like backhand. No

579
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 4: one knows. None of the spectators know. No one knows. Also,

580
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 4: they're aware that the pucks in the net, but they

581
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 4: never knew what the guy did. He has to go

582
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Speaker 4: to the grave knowing what he did, and no one

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Speaker 4: knows what he did.

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Speaker 2: Well, now you make it to the grave because the

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00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 2: next day on Sports Center they showed it.

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Speaker 3: In slow mode.

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Speaker 4: I mean back in the old days.

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Speaker 3: Uh that okay, that brings me joy, that those highlights.

589
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Speaker 4: Bring you joy. My daughter's a hockey player.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, let's take a break for some listener feedback. Phil.

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Speaker 3: What's the chat have to say?

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Speaker 6: Oh, a lot of stuff. First of all, golden arrows wondering, honest,

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Speaker 6: why are you wearing a letterman's jacket? You want to

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Speaker 6: talk about what you're wearing there? You know I always.

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Speaker 3: Wanted a letter letterman's jacket when I was in high school.

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Speaker 3: Did either of you ever?

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00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 4: It was a big j on it.

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00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 3: I had the letter, but I never went through with

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00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 3: it and got the jacket.

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00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 4: You think our school even had those.

601
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: I got a letter too for running cross country, huh,

602
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: But I didn't get the jacket either.

603
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 6: Here I got a band.

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00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: No, this was just sitting on my desk, and yeah,

605
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: I tried it on. I thought, and I thought, man,

606
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Speaker 2: if it's really nice, So I decided to wear it

607
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Speaker 2: for the show today.

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Speaker 3: Steve was trying to talk a lot of it so

609
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Speaker 3: he could have it.

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Speaker 6: That's right, Stormy Chromer Steve.

611
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 4: One of my favorite Yannie stories of all time is

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Speaker 4: he had a blaze orange Stormy Chromer hat and he

613
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Speaker 4: had it so long that it faded so much, and

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00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 4: eventually a game board and told him that it was

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Speaker 4: his last year with that hat?

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Speaker 3: Was it your last year? Indeed? Well, yeah, guys, get

617
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Speaker 3: not that orange.

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Speaker 4: He goes, you can hunt this year, but next year

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Speaker 4: I might have a new hat.

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Speaker 3: Yea. So not a letter not a letterman's jacket.

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Speaker 2: No, it's a Stormy Chromer meat eater or collab. You

622
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: can find it on the website. I bet you can

623
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Speaker 2: find it on the Stormy Chromer website too. It's got

624
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: like a little quilting on the inside.

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00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 3: If you can't afford that.

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00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 4: Bullshitter's calendar.

627
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: But how did you have to say it for the

628
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 2: folks that don't like the naughty language.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, for Clay, I sent Clay. I made up

630
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,479
Speaker 4: a Clay nucome cover or its dilapidated old potties because

631
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 4: he doesn't. But he said, we could have used crappers

632
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 4: and he still would have been okay with his family,

633
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 4: haven't it right? But yeah, dilapidated old potties, but it's

634
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 4: actually not available available for everyone else. You got to

635
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 4: get the f up for everyone else. You have to

636
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 4: have to swear word. I was listening to you know,

637
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 4: uh what quite surprised me. I think I think like

638
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 4: swear words are different now. Six days before the election,

639
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 4: jd Vance was on Rogan's podcast and he said the

640
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 4: F word. Mmm, So I'm like, okay, we're in a

641
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 4: new era now. Yeah, you could be running for vice

642
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 4: presidents and say the F word. Damn. Sure could be

643
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 4: on this calendar.

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00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 3: Do you think there was a time in your life

645
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 3: where the vice president couldn't say the word.

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00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was seven days ago.

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Speaker 6: Healthy j has had a pretty at a pretty filthy mouth,

648
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Speaker 6: and I think it was it was kind of like

649
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 6: off the record every all.

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00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was all that stuff that they the secret tapes.

651
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Speaker 3: Sure, so the calendar in the meat Eater store and

652
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 3: Yannie's spiffy stormy chromer orange vest also in the store.

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Speaker 4: Ye and we're and I'm taking suggestions for ne do

654
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 4: we have time? Sure, I'm taking suggestions for next year's calendar.

655
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 4: Where we were talking about doing fucked up old fish

656
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 4: cleaning stations, but it's hard to capture the image, and

657
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 4: it's hard to capture the smell. Then fucked up old boats.

658
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 4: That's a good one. Fucked up old fisherman and it's

659
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 4: just pictures of fucked up old fisherman like that. Oh yeah,

660
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Speaker 4: a lot of them are dead, but what would they

661
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 4: look like? Well, we're gonna get to one. What do

662
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 4: you mean when we I don't like the name throwback Thursdays.

663
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 4: I think that's stupid. But there's a.

664
00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 3: Old come up with that's like a social media it.

665
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 4: Uh, I'll tell you about one. I'll tell you about one.

666
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 3: Phil, what else you got? Votive?

667
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 6: Just recognized that Phil and Steve remind me of my

668
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 6: parents passively aggressively arguing with each other for the voting.

669
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: You should have heard us before the show. Uh, there was.

670
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 3: There was a pretty earnest remark made by Phil that said, Steve,

671
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 3: I feel like you're mad at me a lot. Yeah no,

672
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 3: and then I said that he disagreement. It's like today

673
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 3: I love my job. Yeah, both those things happen opinions on.

674
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 6: I'm guessing just pen Ray's birds being released on public land.

675
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 6: It's our only good upland opportunity here in Illinois, Wisconsin.

676
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 6: That's from Zach. Do you guys have any I think

677
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 6: you've shared some of this, Steve, but it's a little

678
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 6: wishy washy. We don't have to get into it putting

679
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 6: you on the spot here, I don't mind.

680
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 4: Me put it on spot. What's you say? If it

681
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 4: was possible to take that money an effort and do

682
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 4: the right habitat work to get wild birds on the ground,

683
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 4: I think that that would be a better use of

684
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 4: time than it is to set up a sort of

685
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 4: pretend amusement park type situation.

686
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that.

687
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 2: I didn't know where Steve was going, but my first

688
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 2: thought was that, Yeah, I just wish that we could

689
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: put that energy into habitat and then have wild birds.

690
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 2: You're great, but if it is your only opportunity, have fun.

691
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: It's a complicated situation and we should do a.

692
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 4: Whole thing about it. Thanks for springing that up, Phil.

693
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 6: You're welcome, Steve. Last one before our next segment. This

694
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 6: is kind of broad. But you guys are from the

695
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 6: area sort of. So Thomas's as.

696
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 8: Do we still eat it Dave Sushi? Yeah, great, we

697
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 8: can do that one too. Oh, I'll talk about that

698
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 8: at length. I'll talk about that at length. I just

699
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 8: went back, we're switching. I still need a Dave Sushi. Listen,

700
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 8: set the stage, set the stage.

701
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 4: All right, do we have time for this?

702
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 3: We got time for anything. We want to have time.

703
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 4: My favorite restaurant, and my favorite restaurant here used to

704
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 4: be Dave Sushi. Oh yeah, Dudell family favorite. They bought

705
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 4: some imported morel mushrooms. I didn't even know this existed.

706
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 4: They bought some moral mushrooms that were cultivated and imported

707
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 4: from China, and they were serving them like in a

708
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 4: not cooked roll, not cooked. They were like giving them

709
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 4: a splash of vinegar, serving them uncooked. And they had

710
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 4: a made a bunch of people sick and killed a

711
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 4: couple of people.

712
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 9: Uh.

713
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 4: And then everybody's like, oh, it's dangerous to eat it

714
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 4: Dave Sushi. I said, well not anymore. It ain't. Yeah, guarantee,

715
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 4: they're not selling that.

716
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 3: It's like they say, the safest day to fly was,

717
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 3: you know, right after nine eleven.

718
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 4: So I took my family down there to eat just

719
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 4: as an act of defiance. Put just something change down there, man,

720
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 4: all the just something change the vibe.

721
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 3: I am in back, so it's not your favorite anymore.

722
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,479
Speaker 4: I went that one time and I was like, bye, God,

723
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 4: we're a Dave's family, and that's I don't want to

724
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 4: hear about it. And then we haven't been back. We'reund

725
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 4: to a new thing. Now we're around. We around the

726
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 4: I like the table because my kids liked they squirt

727
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 4: the sprite in your mouth and they throw eggs in

728
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 4: the air, and.

729
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 6: Shit, it's kompa here in Yeah, there's some of those guys.

730
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 4: Some of those guys get a little burned out over

731
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 4: time and they don't put on a show. That's me

732
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 4: and my kids favorite restaurant. My wife doesn't like it.

733
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 4: And then I I like the air Works. I like

734
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 4: going there. Yeah, And there's a lot of restaurants I hate.

735
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: See I've been to that. There's some other there's some

736
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: other sushi joints in our town. And after the Dave's thing,

737
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 2: I went to the other ones and then I was like, man,

738
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 2: if I'm gonna eat sushi in this time, I'm going

739
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: back to Dave's.

740
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 4: Damn straight with you.

741
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: I haven't, but you gotta win the lottery to go

742
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 2: to and I love going to guys, so I could.

743
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 3: I got the anniversary.

744
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 6: Here's the deal man that's not enjoying this local bowsman.

745
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 3: I got to come when you come.

746
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 4: I got a list of restaurants that long from there

747
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 4: to there that I'm actually boycott. Oh why hate him

748
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 4: so bad? Okay, hate them.

749
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 3: I'm going to one tonight, a new one. That's why

750
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 3: I've got this card again. On it's the only this

751
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 3: is the only office in the world where you could

752
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 3: walk in with something that's not like a meat eater

753
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 3: T shirt and people are like, oh, look at look

754
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 3: at GQ over here.

755
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 4: What are you going to? The Queen was teasing me

756
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 4: there today about my shirt. Really, he's like a little

757
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 4: fashion coph.

758
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 3: A card. Again. We're gonna go to the Bitter Root

759
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 3: b Stroup tonight.

760
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 4: You play something. Where do you get fashion advice here?

761
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll remember that. Phil. Let's let's do one more

762
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 3: comment here and then we go on.

763
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 6: Yes, this is I mean, this could be a quick

764
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 6: description Craig's outdoors. Could you guys explain how thermals work

765
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 6: and how to take them into account while hunting. Never

766
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 6: really understood this.

767
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Yanni quick, warm.

768
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Phil, I don't think you did a great job

769
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 2: of producing this one, but I'll do it. No, no,

770
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: I can answer. But it's not a it's not it's yes.

771
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 4: Let me take a stab at it.

772
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 3: Thermals. I'm gonna go real quick.

773
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 2: Why don't listen, I'll do I'll explain thermals very quickly,

774
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 2: and then you can take them. You can explain how

775
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 2: to take them into account while hunting. Okay, anywhere where

776
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: you have a topography, meaning like some sort of hills, mountains,

777
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 2: or even just little bitty hills like ten twenty. It

778
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 2: doesn't work on flat ground. You need to have a

779
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: place where there's air that's going to sink when it's

780
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 2: cold down the side of a hill, and then when

781
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: it warms up, it's going to rise.

782
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 3: Okay.

783
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 2: So the same way that if you put your hand

784
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 2: over a fire, you can feel the heat well above

785
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 2: the fire, but if you're able to put it like

786
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: down below it or off to the side, it's not

787
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 2: you don't feel it quite as in the same distance.

788
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: It's because the heat's rising well, it sinks when it

789
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 2: gets cold too.

790
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 3: Okay, So.

791
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: Most days, like where I hunt in Wisconsin, if the

792
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: wind's not blowing, like in the first morning, when it's

793
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: super cold at first light, the air is sinking down

794
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 2: the hillsides. As the day warms, the air starts to

795
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: rise up the hillsides, and then again in the evenings,

796
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: the air cools and it's gonna sink down the hillsides. Okay,

797
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 2: So that is how thermals work.

798
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 4: Yep. I'll add a little tidbit. Cold water can drive

799
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 4: thermals as well. But let me back up and say this.

800
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 4: I think of there being I don't know if a

801
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 4: meteorologist would agree. I think of there being two kinds

802
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 4: of wind. There's wind that you go and look at

803
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 4: the weather forecast and it tells you the wind's coming

804
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 4: from the south. There's that wind, and then there's a

805
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 4: localized thermal wind that has to do with temperature shifts.

806
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 4: How do you use them? Let me give you an

807
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 4: extreme version. It's very common if let's let's say you're

808
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 4: you're bow hunting elk and you're looking at elk on

809
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 4: the hillside, and you know the best approach is to

810
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 4: come from above. It's real common to not make a

811
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 4: play and wait for the thermals to switch and be like,

812
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 4: I'm not going now because I need to come from

813
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 4: above and the air going is going uphill. I'm gonna wait.

814
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 4: The sun's gonna set, the air is going to.

815
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: No, no, you mess it up.

816
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 4: Am I where I'm at?

817
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 3: You need to come from.

818
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 4: Above, you know, you want to approach from above above.

819
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 3: And at that moment when you first seen him at

820
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 3: first light, the air is still sinking.

821
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 4: Oh no, I was in the air. I was looking

822
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 4: at him midday.

823
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 3: Oh.

824
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 4: Either way, you know that as the air is cooling

825
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 4: or when it's cold, the air is gonna be going downhill,

826
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 4: and when it's warm, the air is gonna be going uphill.

827
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 4: And you might sit and be like, we're not gonna

828
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 4: do anything. We're gonna lay here for three hours until

829
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 4: the thermals switch, at which point we'll be able to

830
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 4: do the approach in the way that makes sense for

831
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 4: the wind. And that's not what the weather man's telling you.

832
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 4: That's the topographical wind change. When I was saying about creeks,

833
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 4: you might always notice if you're in a you might

834
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 4: always notice if you're on a creek that has any

835
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 4: kind of like canyon like aspect, you might always be

836
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 4: like the wind is always with the current because that air,

837
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 4: that water is cool in that little bit of air,

838
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 4: and you have a little micro climb of thermal with

839
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 4: air coming down. So it's a good idea sometimes to

840
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 4: sneak up creaks because you know that there's gonna be

841
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 4: ever so slight downhill draft from that cool creek air.

842
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 2: Here's another example. One time I got busted by thermals.

843
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 2: I was on a north facing like deep ark timber

844
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: hillside right like, I'm freezing my my tail off sitting there,

845
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: and I'm looking at elk across the drainage that are

846
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 2: in a south on a south facing quaky covered hillside

847
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 2: that's in the sun, and i can feel the air

848
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: dropping right down to the creek below me, and I'm thinking, well,

849
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: it's just going to drop down in there and then

850
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,479
Speaker 2: just gonna keep on going out. Well, what my scent

851
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 2: actually did was it went to the bottom and then

852
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 2: it caught that warm air and that was going up

853
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 2: the other side, and then went right up the other

854
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 2: side to the elk and eventually busted me.

855
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 4: Drives more time, still no question. It's hot tips conversation.

856
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 4: We talked about Poverty Pat earlier. The other day. I

857
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 4: was with Poverty Pat and we were looking at a

858
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 4: wallow and I was talking about how a fellow could

859
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 4: set up on that wallow, and I said, you'd want

860
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 4: to do two. You have to do two setups because

861
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 4: of the thermal Sure, a more detailed breakdown. We have

862
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 4: two really good articles on the meat eater dot com

863
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 4: Understanding Thermals in Whitetail Country from Tony Peterson and then

864
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 4: how to Hunt a Thermal Hub from Bomartnic. In that

865
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 4: thermal hub, a lot of it has to do with

866
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 4: hunting creek bottoms like sand and if you were if

867
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 4: you if you need to approach a fucked up old shitter,

868
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 4: you might play the thermals depending on the condition. That's

869
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 4: a hot tip, dude.

870
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: Mark Kenyon just interviewed, Uh, John Eberhart and oh from

871
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 2: Tethered Uh not Ernie, what's the what's his no? What's

872
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: what's Ernie's partner's name? Greg Godfrey? He interviewed those two

873
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 2: and in there they talk about thermals. On the podcast.

874
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: It's not the current episode but the one before.

875
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 3: Uh.

876
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: They thoroughly talk through thermals. So go listen to that.

877
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 4: When I first saw that question come up, I thought,

878
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 4: you want to know how long John's worked? Alright.

879
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 2: The only reason I thought it was bad films because

880
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 2: I knew we could talk about this for.

881
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, a little chuckle over there.

882
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 3: Moving on, our next segment is one minute Fishing.

883
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 5: Do I feel lucky?

884
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 4: We'll do you dunk, Go ahead, make my cast.

885
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,439
Speaker 3: One minute Fishing is where we go live to someone

886
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 3: who's fishing and they have one minute to catch a fish,

887
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 3: and if they're successful, we'll make a five hundred dollars

888
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 3: donation to a conservation group. This week, our angler is

889
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 3: doctor Randall Williams, who's at the Meat Eater office pond today.

890
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 3: Doctor Randall is fishing for a donation to TRCP. Steve,

891
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 3: what are you seeing there?

892
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 4: When you look at the camera, I see that I

893
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 4: see a homeless guy out by that pond or the

894
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 4: Cleveland shirt on. So wherever he came from Ohio state? Sorry,

895
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 4: wherever he came from it was Ohio?

896
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Randal, give us a scouting report on the

897
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 3: office pond.

898
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 4: Have you made a cast yet?

899
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 10: I made a few half hearted casts about twenty five

900
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 10: minutes ago, and since then we've just been.

901
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 4: Trying to keep our hands warm.

902
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 10: There's a good breeze coming in from the west, maybe

903
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 10: gusting up to fifteen miles an hour or so, so

904
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 10: I apologize in advance. If Corey's hands are shaking because

905
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 10: we're rather chilly.

906
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 6: Cold, that's fine. The connection is not great anyway. Do

907
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 6: whatever you want.

908
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 3: And what's your tactic today, Randall? To be successful in

909
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 3: one minute?

910
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 10: Well, I've got a number four panther Martin with a.

911
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 4: Yellow body red spots.

912
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 10: I believe it's been featured on this very segment in

913
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 10: previous episodes, and I'm gonna give it about two casts.

914
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 10: I'm gonna go one to the left, one to the right,

915
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 10: and just see what happens.

916
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 4: I don't have much confidence, Steve.

917
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 3: What would you do if you were out there trying

918
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 3: to catch a fish in one minute?

919
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 4: Same thing. I'd take a big old fat lee for

920
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 4: him and put about twenty inches below bobber and huck

921
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 4: that out and just have you start the clock.

922
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, doctor Randall, Your time starts when you

923
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 3: make your first cast.

924
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 4: Go ahead, let's do this. What if he has a

925
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 4: license would be funny if you got like of citation.

926
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 3: We had someone from the production side of the company

927
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 3: do this a couple of weeks ago, and I asked

928
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 3: them beforehand and said, do you have a fishing license?

929
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 4: And they did. They didn't see it.

930
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 3: The first one got hung in the trees. No, Well,

931
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 3: the good news is you have forty five seconds to

932
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 3: figure it out.

933
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 4: You know what it ought to be. If they don't catch,

934
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 4: they pay five hundred bucks. If they do catch, we

935
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 4: pay five hundred bucks.

936
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 3: The opposite thing will happen where right now, we have

937
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 3: a lot of people volunteering to do this segment. The

938
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 3: other version. I don't think we'll have anyone. What's going

939
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 3: on over there? Come on, Randall, let's go. You have

940
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 3: fifteen seconds to go.

941
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 4: Is still in the tree? Why is he looking at us?

942
00:46:58,600 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 3: Five seconds?

943
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 6: R man, I wish we weren't.

944
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 3: It did not have today, Randall, tell us about what

945
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 3: happened on that first cast.

946
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 6: Oh, he's on the ground.

947
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 10: Well, previously, previously i'd mentioned that there's a very strong

948
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:21,479
Speaker 10: breeze coming across the pond, and I went to chuck

949
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 10: it past that tree, bring it right under there. A

950
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 10: bit of a moonball cast must have caught a cross

951
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 10: breeze and then got hung up about twenty feet in

952
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 10: the tree. I I really, I'm surprised that it came

953
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 10: out shocking to me. Really, I thought this was going

954
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 10: to be a giant failure. Instead it was just sort

955
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 10: of on par with all the other failures.

956
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 3: We have yet to have someone be successful doing one

957
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 3: minute fishing at the office pond.

958
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 4: Oh, I'll get in there.

959
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll do it, Steve, before that thing freeze over.

960
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 4: Because I've seen tracks cutting across it.

961
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 3: We're running out of time, so before the freeze happens,

962
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 3: someone needs to be successful for one minute fishing. I'd

963
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 3: like to tell you well done, but I'm not going

964
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 3: to insult you and our listeners. So we'll try this

965
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 3: against some.

966
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 4: Other Randall, does it seem my gud just go out

967
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 4: there with a worm and a bobber and win.

968
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 10: I mean that was my That was what I'd hope

969
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 10: to do, but you know, I just didn't come prepared today.

970
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 10: Sort of the last minute deal.

971
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 4: So well, don't do that. That's what I'm gonna do

972
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 4: your pocket.

973
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:26,959
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think you do well.

974
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 3: Last thing, Randal, before we get out of here, we

975
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 3: had someone Leland Nlly pipe in and say that Randal

976
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 3: can be on the cover of the calendar for fed

977
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 3: up Old Fishermen. Oh oh, I've got some.

978
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 10: I've got some real beauties in my back archives of

979
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 10: me as a fucked up old fisherman.

980
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 4: So okay, believe me.

981
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 10: I think we could make a nice composite for the cover.

982
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 3: Thank you, Randal, Thank you Corey.

983
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 4: All right.

984
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 3: Our next segment is Throwback Thursday. Go back on a Thursday.

985
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 6: Stephen Rody take me back in nineteen seventy foot.

986
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 3: Believe and I mentioned Stephen Rody old.

987
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 4: As shit.

988
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 3: Dude.

989
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 4: I saw, I saw twice I'm talking about.

990
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 3: That's that little tune from Phil really tickled Steve in

991
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 3: a way that I don't think I've ever seen.

992
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 4: Like I said, man, I could if I had, if

993
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 4: you had an hour, I would start telling you about

994
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 4: Gordon Lightfoot.

995
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 3: Okay, next episode, Throwback Thursday, is where we look at

996
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 3: old hunting and fishing pictures of the crew. Yanni, You're

997
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 3: going first, and if you are on our YouTube audience,

998
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 3: either live or watching this in the future, you will

999
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 3: get to see these photos that we're looking at. All right, Yanni,

1000
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 3: what are we seeing here?

1001
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: What.

1002
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,439
Speaker 3: You guys can see what it is. But I want

1003
00:49:55,480 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 3: you guys to guess the year is that you assoom

1004
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 3: in there a little bit.

1005
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 4: It is me.

1006
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 3: I didn't bring a picture of somebody else. I'm gonna

1007
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 3: guess this is the year nineteen ninety one.

1008
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 4: No, okay, what is it?

1009
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 3: I was born in seventy eight. Okay, Steve's got the

1010
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 3: advantage of math on his side here.

1011
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 4: It's like two thousand. Oh, okay, what year was it?

1012
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 2: Ninety seven? Steve wins he's the closest. But yeah, it

1013
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 2: was my first hunting trip out west. My dad took

1014
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: me out to Wyoming. I think we were out by Gillette,

1015
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 2: and we were with some other Latvian fellas. They had

1016
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: done this hunt quite a few times, and uh yeah,

1017
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 2: I remember we drove out in a like an eighty

1018
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 2: seven Chevy Blazer, and we had it set up where

1019
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,240
Speaker 2: you could sleep in the back, so while one guy drove,

1020
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 2: the other guy could lay down and sleep in the back.

1021
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 2: Not very safe, you know, but we got it done.

1022
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 2: Cool thing about this particular hunt is that we did

1023
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 2: kind of a soft push on these prong horn to

1024
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 2: get him to move by us. And I was actually

1025
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 2: being sort of semi guided by a fellow that unfortunately

1026
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 2: is no longer with us, Pete silton Man's just passed

1027
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 2: in the last year, and he was one of the

1028
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 2: landowners up there in Wisconsin where I hunt, and he

1029
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 2: was right with me. He set me up and we

1030
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 2: I think I got prone. I think I had a bipod.

1031
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 2: There's a bipod on that rifle, isn't there?

1032
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 3: It looks like it.

1033
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 4: And I was back and everybody had a hairs biped.

1034
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what that is on that rifle, the

1035
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 3: springs on their Yeah, yeah, well it works out perfect.

1036
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 3: We're sitting there, Prone said. I mean, we were just

1037
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 3: in some sage and the whole herd comes by it

1038
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 3: like one hundred, one hundred and fifty yards, you know,

1039
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 3: And finally this buck is there, and.

1040
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:51,439
Speaker 2: He's like, all right, shoot him.

1041
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 3: Okay.

1042
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 2: I flipped the safety click. I hadn't chambered one, and

1043
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 2: so A chambered one and then shot the buck. But

1044
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 2: there was a few moments there where I don't know

1045
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 2: exactly what Pete was saying behind me, but he got

1046
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 2: quite flustered with me that I hadn't didn't have a

1047
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 2: round in the gun.

1048
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 3: And What I really love is it looks like you're

1049
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 3: wearing mass Yoke bottom land. Oh hell yeah. Did you

1050
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 3: have a lot of that back in your day?

1051
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: No, no, it was I wasn't into it enough to

1052
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 2: know that that was Massiolk bottom lands. It was a

1053
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 2: shirt that I think my dad had grown out of.

1054
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: Is along with those pants. I still own those pants

1055
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 2: and I can still fit into those pants. Oh so

1056
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 2: I was nineteen then I can still. I still have

1057
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 2: those pants there. They're Winchester brush pants and they have

1058
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 2: this very shiny, loud nylon on the front of the chap.

1059
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 2: I guess of them, but I still have those. They

1060
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 2: sit in a drawer every now and then I put

1061
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 2: them on. I don't know for why, but yeah, that

1062
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 2: was before I got contacts too, when I still wore

1063
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: glasses every day.

1064
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 3: That looks like an aniloe punting picture from nineteen ninety seven.

1065
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 3: Sure does, all right, Next one, I'll go next.

1066
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 4: This is a big old bot in South Dakota. I

1067
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 4: found it floating dead on the beach I was. I

1068
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 4: was a sophomore in college.

1069
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 3: I killed that buck on some public land on a

1070
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 3: near a big body of water. Has a Harris bipod

1071
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 3: on there as well. I did have one. I don't

1072
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 3: know if that one was a Harris bipod or not.

1073
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 3: But here's here's what I'll always remember about that haunt

1074
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 3: more than that mule. That morning before sunrise, in my headlight,

1075
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 3: I saw an Eastern spotted skunk. Now, if you don't know,

1076
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 3: those are super rare, and like South Dakota is at

1077
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 3: the very edge of their habitat. Many states have them

1078
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,959
Speaker 3: listed is threatened or vulnerable. And a cool thing about

1079
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 3: the spotted skunks is that game agencies rely on trappers

1080
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 3: to track their population. Steve yann Erie Boy is familiar

1081
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 3: with like an Eastern spotted skunk? Oh yeah, I am, yeah,

1082
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 3: never caught one, and I looked this up shortly after

1083
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 3: I had saw him. In Missouri, for example, spotted skunk

1084
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 3: populations plummeted by ninety nine percent from the nineteen fifties

1085
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 3: to the nineteen eighties. In Minnesota, there were twenty thousand

1086
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 3: spotted skunks harvested in nineteen forty six. By nineteen sixty

1087
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 3: five it was less than one thousand, and in nineteen

1088
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 3: ninety two it was just four. So their populations have

1089
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 3: crashed and I didn't exactly know what I was looking

1090
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 3: at when I saw that spotted skunk. My dad was

1091
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 3: with me, and he had said, that's a SIV cat.

1092
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 3: Did you hear them called? Yeah, civid cat a cat.

1093
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 3: He was a big trapper, so he was also tickled

1094
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 3: to see that spotted skunk. Now, unlike stripe skunks, strip

1095
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 3: skunks have done a great job of adapting to cattle

1096
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 3: and crops and humans, spotted skunks have not. They need

1097
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 3: old growth pine and oak forests for their protection, so

1098
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 3: they have the right food. And the cool thing about

1099
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 3: them is it's like very cartoony, but they do a

1100
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 3: handstand when they're gonna spray, and that's how they aim

1101
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 3: their spray or to hit their target if they feel threatened,

1102
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 3: so they do a little handstand, aim their butt right

1103
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 3: at you, and that's how they hit you on like

1104
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 3: a stripe skunk which would just turn around and spray you.

1105
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 3: And Phil now has a map.

1106
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 4: He showed a picture, but then talked about something besides

1107
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 4: the picture.

1108
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, when I look at that photo, what

1109
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 3: I think of is seeing that stripe that spotted skunk,

1110
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 3: Because it was that morning, a few hours before I

1111
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 3: killed that buck, I saw that spotted skunk. So that's

1112
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 3: what I always think of when I think of that haunter,

1113
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 3: think of that deer, think of that picture.

1114
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 4: It would be like if I showed you this calendar

1115
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 4: and started talking about my computer.

1116
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 3: Uh huh, hey, you could do that. I'm sure you

1117
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 3: have some memories that that are of your computer when

1118
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 3: you look at that calendar. Phil has a a map

1119
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,959
Speaker 3: book that spotted skunk distribution that shows you how many

1120
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 3: times they've been recorded from the year two thousand to

1121
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 3: the year twenty twenty.

1122
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 4: It's got to be a path like a pathological like,

1123
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 4: there's a pathology thing. What do you mean, Are you

1124
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 4: sure it's not some kind of virus.

1125
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 3: Or habitat loss. I was looking this up last night.

1126
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, just that.

1127
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's other things, like they probably have some

1128
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 3: food disappear, but they just they're not as adaptable as

1129
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 3: other small man.

1130
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 4: So you have like the spread of raccoons and possums

1131
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 4: going in the other direction. I just have a hard

1132
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 4: time believing that it could be habitat and not some

1133
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 4: kind of pathological or competition.

1134
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 3: Is I'll send you the articles I read. They were adamant,

1135
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 3: adamant that it is about the habitat loss.

1136
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 2: So if you look at that map where the greater

1137
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 2: occurrences are, it is in some pretty rough country right

1138
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 2: like along the ridge of the apple Acians, and then

1139
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 2: in that eastern South Dakota region and then in the Ozarks.

1140
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 2: Right that's the Ozarks I'm looking at.

1141
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 3: Probably the only spotted skunk I'll ever see was. I

1142
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 3: was thrilled to have that sighting, an encounter, one of

1143
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 3: those see if your next let's let's see your photo

1144
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 3: for throwback there say.

1145
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 4: Well, so this is at my house where I grew up.

1146
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 4: My mom still lives there. The guy down the shore,

1147
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 4: so from lookers left down the shore was an old timer,

1148
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 4: John Gary. And John Gary was kind of one of

1149
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 4: my main fishing mentors when I was a little kid.

1150
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 4: He was a World War two guy like my dad.

1151
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 4: He he kept he would keep track of every book

1152
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 4: he read on in a journal, and he keep track

1153
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 4: of how much he fished on a journal. And he

1154
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 4: fished two hundred and fifty days a year. But he

1155
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 4: lived by himself, which raises the question how do you

1156
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 4: eat all those fish? Because he didn't throw any kind

1157
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 4: of fish back. Huh, Well, he's he's gone. Now, all

1158
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 4: the players are gone. Here, I'm gonna commit. I'm gonna

1159
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 4: admit to a series of crimes.

1160
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 3: Could you describe the photo first? For people who are

1161
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 3: just listening.

1162
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 4: I'm holding up to snap, I'm holding up to ten

1163
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 4: pounds snap turtles.

1164
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 3: What year is this?

1165
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 4: I was in high school. It's like it's like ninety

1166
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety. So John Gary explains to me, aardy kind

1167
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 4: of knew it. But one time he told me he

1168
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 4: made introduction. He was selling his fish to a fish market.

1169
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 4: And I remember when he told me the story. He

1170
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 4: told me, when you're buying something from blank fish market,

1171
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 4: he's got his thumb on the scale. Oh, he said,

1172
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 4: when you're selling something to blank fish market, he's got

1173
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 4: a finger under the scale, but it ain't his thumb. Yeah.

1174
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 4: And he went like that for you people at home,

1175
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 4: I'm raising my middle finger up Michigan Hello.

1176
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 3: But that's not the nice Michigan hud.

1177
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 4: So John Gary turned me on to this scamm he

1178
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 4: had going. We went out and dipped. One time he

1179
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 4: went out and dipped forty gallons of smell and that

1180
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 4: was a crime. No, okay, smelt season. Tell me when

1181
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 4: we get to the crimea what happened. As soon as

1182
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 4: we dipped him, I sold him to the guy bucket gallon,

1183
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 4: which were like, we went out smell dipping burn burned

1184
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 4: a bunch of gasket into pent water, and all of

1185
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 4: a sudden we sold forty gallons of smell for a

1186
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 4: bucket gallon. That's illegal, Okay, We're like dumb rednecks. So

1187
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 4: he then the guy says, well, here's what else I'm

1188
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 4: looking for, and he wanted snapping turtles. You could get

1189
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 4: a commercial license at that time for turtles for like

1190
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,479
Speaker 4: next to nothing. I just figured that since you could

1191
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 4: get a commercial license, it must be okay. So I

1192
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 4: set the trap in turtles big time.

1193
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 3: How'd you trap them?

1194
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 4: I've made my own cage traps out of hogwire i'd

1195
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 4: make I'd make traps double doors, sometimes sometimes single door.

1196
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 4: I'd bait them with you guessed it, John Gary's fish heads.

1197
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 4: John Garrett Freeze all of his small mouthheads. I would

1198
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 4: take the small mouth heads. I'd bait turtle traps. And

1199
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 4: I started trapped turtles like a mofo. And this I

1200
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 4: was buying them for me A buck of pound dressed

1201
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 4: the turtle. YEP. So all I had to do was

1202
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 4: he wanted everything attached to the plaster, and he wanted

1203
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 4: everything attached to the lower shell. He wanted the top

1204
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 4: shell and the guts gone.

1205
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 3: So if you had a ten pound turtle, what did

1206
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 3: he weigh after he was dressed?

1207
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 4: You know what it wound up being. I can't remember

1208
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 4: what he paid me, but it wound up being the

1209
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 4: turtles worth about ten bucks. Yeah, I can't remember. I

1210
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 4: feel like I was gonna say a buck of pound,

1211
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 4: but a turtle is about ten bucks. But I had

1212
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 4: some giant turtles. I caught a thirty pounder one time,

1213
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 4: but I sold that to a different guy. But yeah,

1214
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 4: I was just law breaking. The thing is, I never

1215
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 4: would have gotten a Lacey Act violation because it was

1216
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 4: all in state. Terrible.

1217
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 3: What did these guys do with the turtles?

1218
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 4: They just he would sell anything. He would buy anything

1219
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 4: on the black market that he could have a play

1220
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 4: ausible explanation for how he got it. So you had

1221
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 4: tribal in the Great Lakes, you had tribal fisheries for walleye,

1222
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 4: You had tribal fisheries for yellow perch, you had tribal fisheries.

1223
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 4: He could buy bluegill from aquaculture places. He could buy

1224
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 4: snapping turtle from aquaculture places. So he'd buy anything that

1225
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 4: he could have and it wouldn't be crazy that he

1226
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 4: had it. He wasn't going to buy largemouth bass flays

1227
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 4: off because people like, where the hell did you get

1228
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 4: large mouth bass plays from? Okay, So what year was

1229
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 4: that photo? You think ninety ninety ninety one?

1230
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 3: Head to YouTube you'll want to see. I love that

1231
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 3: picture of Steve. He he didn't he.

1232
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 4: Cut say one last little tidbit. We had a big

1233
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 4: storage if you go down from there like lookers nutsack

1234
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:46,439
Speaker 4: like down below the picture. We have this storage area

1235
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 4: that my dad made us build one summer out of

1236
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 4: out of block and I used to when I catch turtles,

1237
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 4: I'd put him in there until I had a bunch

1238
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 4: to clean them. And one time my mom left the

1239
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 4: door open for turtles everywhere, like a lot of them

1240
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 4: made a break for it and got into lake and

1241
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 4: there was turtles that just went the wrong direction. But

1242
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 4: it was surprising how well those turtles never haven't been there,

1243
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 4: new downhill gone.

1244
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 3: You know, did you catch other kinds of turtles doing

1245
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 3: this too?

1246
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 9: No?

1247
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 4: Only snappers? Man, You know, I could get all kinds

1248
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 4: of turtles in there. No, and it was really good,

1249
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 4: like it was lights out, like season would open June fifteenth.

1250
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 4: It was lights out for a month later Michigan went

1251
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 4: and changed to opening a turtle to July fifteen, which

1252
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 4: sits now. It's hard. It's hard to catch a turtle

1253
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 4: from mid July on it's lights out June fifteen.

1254
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're listening to this, you'll want a head

1255
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 3: to YouTube. You can see Steve's photo from nineteen ninety

1256
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 3: when he was a criminal, my picture from college in

1257
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 3: twenty twelve, and Yanni's Annalo punting picture from nineteen nine.

1258
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 4: Can I say one last thing about John Gary? Last thing?

1259
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 4: After I sold my first book, I felt like I

1260
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 4: was loaded and I was over at John Gary's. He

1261
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 4: was old and John Gary made a deal with me,

1262
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 4: and I didn't take it seriously, but it was a

1263
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 4: serious deal. We're sitting in his house and he said,

1264
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 4: I will sell you this house and everything inside of

1265
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 4: this house down to my shoes, for seventy five thousand dollars.

1266
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 4: The deal is I keep it till I'm dead. And

1267
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 4: he was serious because he wanted money to be able

1268
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 4: to travel how long did you think about this offer

1269
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 4: a bit? But I didn't think about it seriously enough.

1270
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 4: Then later he passed his away in the house sells

1271
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 4: for seven hundred thousand dollars. Several hundred thousand dollars is

1272
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 4: on the beach. Yeah, could have been. I remember that detail,

1273
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 4: right down to my shoes and he pointed to his shoes.

1274
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 4: You could have had his shoes, everything, seventy five grand.

1275
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 4: He wanted it in cash, all right. That was throwback Thursday.

1276
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 4: Moving on.

1277
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 3: Joining us on the line last is Mitchell Black, a

1278
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 3: journalist from the Post and Courier newspaper. He's been covering

1279
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 3: the story of how forty three female monkeys escaped a

1280
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 3: research facility in South Carolina. Mitchell, welcome to the show.

1281
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: Hey, how you doing. Thanks for having me doing good.

1282
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 3: First thing, tell us about the facility that these monkeys

1283
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 3: escaped from.

1284
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 9: Sure, so, Alpha Genesis. It's a primate breeding and research

1285
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 9: facility in MSSE, South Carolina. And if you don't know

1286
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 9: where air that at is, that is sort of on

1287
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 9: the southeastern corner of the state what a lot of

1288
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 9: people might think of as a murdic country. And so

1289
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 9: this facility they primarily breed monkeys to be sold to

1290
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 9: the government into private companies for testing, and they also

1291
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 9: perform tests themselves.

1292
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: They have a few.

1293
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 9: Different locations around the low Country and the MSc themsel itself.

1294
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 9: They've got close to seven thousand monkeys. The town has

1295
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 9: a thousand people, so it's like a six to one

1296
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 9: monkey to town person ratio.

1297
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 1: Over there.

1298
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 9: So you know, a lot out of the monkeys in

1299
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 9: that facility and you know people can see them from

1300
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 9: the road and k ages. It's part of living in

1301
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 9: ms is having the these monkeys around.

1302
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 3: And what purpose do these monkeys serve?

1303
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 9: So it's a little bit they the facility is contracted

1304
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 9: for breeding, so you know, these monkeys are bred and

1305
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 9: that and so old to do different companies and the

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Speaker 9: government for science and testing. And then they also perform

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Speaker 9: some research on them themselves. And you know, if you

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01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 9: look at at some of the work that company has done,

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01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 9: you know they talk about outfit they use the monkeys

1310
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 9: for studies in vaccine development, therapeutic drug therapies, and.

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Speaker 1: Some surgical procedures.

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Speaker 9: You know, we're still looking to learn a little bit

1313
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Speaker 9: more about the specifics there. You know, one important thing

1314
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 9: to note is that you know these monkeys. Per their CEO,

1315
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 9: they're juveniles, so there are too young to be tested on,

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01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 9: which is one of the reasons that they say that,

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01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 9: you know, people shouldn't be all that scared, but they

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01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 9: should still steer clear because you know, monkeys can be

1319
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 9: skittish and they'll just scamper off in the trees if

1320
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 9: you end up, you know, trying to give it a

1321
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Speaker 9: big old hug.

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Speaker 3: All right, tell us about the escape. How did it

1323
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,439
Speaker 3: come to be that forty three monkeys got loose in town?

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Speaker 9: Sure, so it was in the middle of the day,

1325
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 9: the day after election day and so, you know, well

1326
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 9: people are still learning about what the results are of

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01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 9: the election. A caretaker went into a facility, into the

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01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 9: facility in ym See, and they were cleaning their enclosure,

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01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 9: and they left the doors unsecured, and there was a

1330
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 9: jail break. Forty three monkeys out the door, and a

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01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 9: lot lot of them have been hanging out in the

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01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 9: area right by the facility. But you know, there were

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01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 9: some reports of a monkey five miles down the road

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01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 9: a few days into. It took a few days for

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Speaker 9: the facility to start to bring the monkeys back into

1336
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Speaker 9: the fold because it was raining down here.

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Speaker 1: And the monkey's kind of hunkered down in the trees.

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Speaker 9: That made it difficult for them to catch, you know,

1339
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 9: because they're just didn't want to get wet.

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Speaker 3: And how how many have they caught so far? Then,

1341
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 3: it's been it's been about ten days or so since

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01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 3: it's happened.

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01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 9: It's been it's been, yeah, it's been eight days. And

1344
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 9: so they've caught they've caught thirty five monkeys. There's still

1345
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 9: eight that are on the loose, and uh, you know,

1346
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 9: trying to learn about where exactly the os aar. I'm

1347
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 9: not sure or if they're or by the facility or

1348
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 9: if they're elsewhere, but residents are instructed to, uh, you know,

1349
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 9: call the police.

1350
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 1: If they have a monkey sighting.

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01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 9: And you know, as a reporter, we're all always started

1352
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 9: of looking at different announcements from the police department and

1353
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 9: police reports, and you know, you see things like traffic

1354
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 9: accident okay, you know, if there's a break in okay. Uh,

1355
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 9: and so you know, we're looking and we get an

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01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 9: email it's from one of the local lawenforcement agencies a

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Speaker 9: week or so ago. It's like, you know, all these

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01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 9: monkeys that have been broken out of the cilion, Well

1359
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,439
Speaker 9: you know that's a story. So you know, we start

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01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 9: making calls and you know, here we are a week

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Speaker 9: or so later.

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Speaker 4: Is the climate suitable for those monkeys? Like? Is it

1363
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 4: plausible that if you just left them alone that they

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01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 4: would find not only the right temperatures but food sources

1365
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,520
Speaker 4: and you know what I mean, like, could you feasibly

1366
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 4: have a feral population of monkeys in this area?

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01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:42,679
Speaker 9: Well, so there is a there is an island where

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01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 9: a lot of these monkeys live just off the coast there.

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01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 9: What I'll say is that these monkeys there, so there

1370
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 9: are resus macaques and they're typically found in South Asia,

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01:08:56,120 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 9: but they have been living in captivity so uh and

1372
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 9: you know.

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01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 1: Have been dependent on people eating them.

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01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 9: So uh, it's hard to say whether or they could

1375
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 9: just simply exist in the wild, you know, given that, uh,

1376
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 9: you know they a bit in living in cages for

1377
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 9: most of their life.

1378
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean outside of these individual monkeys particular

1379
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 4: skill sets, what I mean is is the climate in

1380
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 4: South Carolina suitable for the monkeys or are they freezing

1381
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 4: their asses right now?

1382
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 9: Well? Right now, right now it's pretty warm, but it's

1383
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 9: gonna it's getting colder. Or at night, you know, uh so, uh,

1384
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 9: it's still pretty warm right now. I don't own you know,

1385
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 9: in terms of like me walking around, it's not not

1386
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 9: quite at you know, mitches freezing at his ass off

1387
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 9: temperature yet, so you know, trying to not not completely

1388
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 9: sure if they are you know, how they are going

1389
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 9: to do in colder temperatures, but you know that that's

1390
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 9: another good question, all right.

1391
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 3: And just a second, Mitchell is going to tell us

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01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 3: about how they have captured thirty five of the forty

1393
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 3: three monkeys. But Steve, you're a trapper. If you were

1394
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 3: tasked with catching these forty three monkeys, how would you

1395
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 3: do it?

1396
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 4: Oh? Man, I got no idea. I don't know enough

1397
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 4: about them. Where would you start though?

1398
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 3: What do you think? Live traps?

1399
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 4: I imagine, yeah, live traps and maybe Mercer Longes bobcat cages.

1400
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,639
Speaker 4: And then you'd have to put the mechanism you could

1401
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:36,719
Speaker 4: figure that a little sucker in there with his fingers.

1402
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 9: Huh.

1403
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 4: You'd have to put the trigger mechanism up against some wall. Okay,

1404
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 4: so he can't fiddle with that, But yeah, I don't.

1405
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 4: I'm not that into monkeys, to be honest with.

1406
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 3: You, Mitchell, how are they doing and how have they

1407
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 3: caught the thirty five monkeys so far.

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01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 9: Yeah, So they're they're using these traps that are called

1409
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 9: have a heart trap. So they are one of these

1410
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 9: things where if you think of like a cage that

1411
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 9: has an opening enclosure and then sort of swinging door

1412
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 9: where and they have food on the other side, the

1413
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 9: monkey walks into the cage, tries to get the food,

1414
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 9: door swings closed, and that that's what they are using.

1415
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 9: The other part part of it is that a lot

1416
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 9: of the monkeys are around the facility and they're just

1417
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 9: kind of.

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01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 1: Hoping that they return home. You know, there was actually

1419
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 1: another estate. Yeah, there's another I really need to do it.

1420
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 4: He's like, I want to get back to that place

1421
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 4: where they're going to experiment out of me. Huh, And

1422
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 4: I got to live in that little box.

1423
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:36,839
Speaker 9: There are a lot of people who are waiting in here,

1424
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 9: and it's not uncommon to see on social media people

1425
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 9: saying let them be free.

1426
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 3: But this facility has a history of similar incidents, right.

1427
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, So there was another split, if you will, in

1428
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 9: twenty sixteen when nineteen monkeys escaped from the facility, but

1429
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 9: they returned home six hours later. Twenty six monkeys left

1430
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 9: the facility also in twenty fourteen and actually earlier this year,

1431
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 9: not related to this facility, but you know a few

1432
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 9: miles up the road, there was a monkey who's someone's

1433
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 9: pet who got out and was wandering around the streets

1434
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 9: of Walterborough, which is in the area in Carlton County,

1435
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 9: and so that led to a multiple o day.

1436
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 1: Monkey hunt.

1437
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:31,759
Speaker 9: Or you know, they were not trying to kill the monkey,

1438
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 9: of course, but attempt to try to bring the monkey

1439
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 9: back to its owners. So there's been a lot a

1440
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 9: lot of monkey he escapes down here. You know, a

1441
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 9: lot of monkey coverage going on.

1442
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 3: All right, last question here, Mitchell, what is the community's

1443
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 3: added toward told the toward the whole thing.

1444
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:49,959
Speaker 4: Are they angry?

1445
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 3: Are they amused? Are they scared?

1446
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 9: So, you know, there are some people who live in

1447
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 9: places where they've got like a cap who comes into

1448
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 9: their backyard, you know, or you know, in some other

1449
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:05,719
Speaker 9: places they'll have.

1450
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 1: Like deer or bears. That's sort of the attitude.

1451
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 9: And you know, in the deer the bear, they come

1452
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:13,560
Speaker 9: in and you know, you sort of get used to

1453
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 9: seeing them. That's sort of the attitude that locals have

1454
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 9: about out these monkeys, like it's not amen for people

1455
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 9: to say like, oh, I saw them in a tree.

1456
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 9: Oh there was a few years back where I saw

1457
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 9: a monkey sort of trapes them through my yard, and

1458
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 9: so there there's a little bit of amusemusement, but also frankly, uh,

1459
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 9: you know, this is a small town and it's a

1460
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:40,440
Speaker 9: big facility, and so it does a lot to contribute

1461
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 9: to the economy.

1462
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 1: So there's a little little bit of an amusement.

1463
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 9: But you know, there, I wouldn't say that a lot

1464
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 9: of the anger that we've heard, which are you know,

1465
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 9: typically coming from animal rights organizations, that's not as much

1466
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 9: coming from the locals.

1467
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 1: That we've spoken to.

1468
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 3: A right Mitchell. You can follow his coverage on the

1469
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 3: Post in Courier newspaper.

1470
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 4: Thank you for joining.

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01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 3: Thanks Mitchell.

1472
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:07,640
Speaker 4: I tell you what if my kids caught one of

1473
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,719
Speaker 4: those monkeys and I told them what was gonna happen

1474
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 4: to that monkey if we brought it back home, that

1475
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 4: monkey's come and live with us. There's no way the

1476
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 4: pet monkeys.

1477
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's no way that we guys on the

1478
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:21,680
Speaker 3: podcast talk to somebody about monkey facilities.

1479
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, because there was they're trying to open more of

1480
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 4: these monkey breeding farms.

1481
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:27,520
Speaker 3: Uh huh and locals.

1482
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 4: That's the that's the main thing I'm thinking about right now,

1483
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 4: because this is a hot issue in Florida. Is that

1484
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 4: was that what this was happening Carolina.

1485
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 1: But there's Georgia.

1486
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 4: That's where they're trying to open anyways, they're they're trying

1487
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:41,879
Speaker 4: to make because there's a real shortage of these research monkeys,

1488
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 4: so they're trying to open new monkey farms, and locals

1489
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 4: are pissed. Yeah, and now the locals are going to

1490
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 4: be able to use this sure right and turn around

1491
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 4: and be like, such as what's going on over there?

1492
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 4: That's what we're talking about. We don't want that.

1493
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 3: That's a level of nimby not in my backyard that

1494
01:14:57,920 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 3: I'd be comfortable with.

1495
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 4: That's a mimby. I don't need a monkey in my backyard.

1496
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 2: There you go, Really you're really worried about, like, what's

1497
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 2: gonna happen?

1498
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 3: Worried? They just said they just go right back to

1499
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:09,639
Speaker 3: the facility after a week.

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01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 4: I'd rather be in Texas. It's a good spot for it. Yeah.

1501
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I don't know. If my neighbor

1502
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 4: was raising monkeys, I don't know. I'd hope they got

1503
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 4: away all right.

1504
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 3: That brings us'd be like one of his monkeys in

1505
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 3: my yard. That brings us to the end of the show. Phil,

1506
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 3: let's get some final listen.

1507
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 4: That's the end of the show.

1508
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 3: That's the end of the show. We're gonna get some

1509
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 3: final listening feedback. You want to keep going.

1510
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:36,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, Hey, last call for questions. A little sparse on questions.

1511
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 6: The more specific the better, too. We're getting a lot

1512
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 6: of like, hey, any hunting tips, don't do that a

1513
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:45,600
Speaker 6: little more specific. But this one question is that provider outdoors,

1514
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 6: whether from the cookbook or not, you guys have a

1515
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 6: favorite antelope recipe.

1516
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:56,600
Speaker 4: I'd use I I if you look at our cookbooks,

1517
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 4: we instead of saying it's a mule deer recipe, it's

1518
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:04,679
Speaker 4: a whitetail recipe, we do like horned and antlered game.

1519
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:10,799
Speaker 4: I don't This isn't quite answering the question. I wouldn't

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Speaker 4: worry about what it is. I would treat it like

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Speaker 4: horned an antlered game. If there's a great venison recipe

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Speaker 4: you like, if there's a great moose recipe you like, Hell,

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01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 4: there's a great lamb rescue you like, I would make

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01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 4: that recipe, I would not care what it was. The

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01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 4: cut of the animal and the recipe matter more than

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Speaker 4: what the animal was when it comes to that.

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Speaker 2: Just the other night, I cooked out the fresh backstrap

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01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:40,600
Speaker 2: from that male whitetail buck I just killed in Wisconsin

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01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 2: by slicing the backstraps into roughly, I don't know, half

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Speaker 2: inch three quarter inch slices, pounding them lightly, salting and

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Speaker 2: peppering them, then dusting them in flour, and then pan

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Speaker 2: frying them in uh, you know, a light quarter inch

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Speaker 2: of oil and.

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Speaker 3: A little bit of butter in there.

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Speaker 2: Then I made a nice pan gravy, had some potatoes

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01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 2: and asparagus in the oven, and poured it all over it.

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Speaker 2: I did it with white tail, but I'm sure that

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01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 2: it would be delicious with the backstrap from a prong

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01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 2: horn as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, any venison recipes on our website are gonna work

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01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 3: just fine. To be more specific, Danielle Pruett has an

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01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 3: antelope sausage recipe on the meat eater dot Com where

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01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 3: she really leans into the sage flavor profile, which a

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01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 3: lot of folks say that antelope meat tends to taste

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01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 3: like I think when people taste that it's because they

1546
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 3: were like quartering it up in the field and laid

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01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:37,640
Speaker 3: the hind quarterage.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's an oily plant.

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Speaker 6: Braiden, Steve is or scratch that reverse it. Steve Braiden

1550
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 6: is asking what's the hardest part of writing a book?

1551
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 4: Writing it? There's a quote I think it might have

1552
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,799
Speaker 4: been Garrison Keeler had this quote. Someone had this quote

1553
01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 4: that writing a book is like driving at night. You

1554
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 4: can only see as far as what is illuminated by

1555
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 4: your headlights, but you keep driving and driving and driving

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01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 4: and driving and driving and driving and driving, and finally

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01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 4: you get there. That's your experience as well. Oh hah.

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Speaker 6: Tory is wondering the weirdest thing you've ever used as

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01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 6: bait for fishing?

1560
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 4: This is what I would like to have used this bait,

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01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 4: and what I've used this bait.

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01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 3: I've leaned into the weird catfish baits before for channel

1563
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 3: cats and flatheads. Soap that was a sexy one about

1564
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 3: fifteen years ago where your doory magazines would talk about.

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01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 3: It has a strong scent. You think about if you'd

1566
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:43,599
Speaker 3: have soap and water. You watch the sort of this

1567
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:47,640
Speaker 3: oil skim anything with like you take a hunk of

1568
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 3: meat and soak it in cherry kool aid. That's been

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01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 3: something that was heavily promoted for catfish baits. So doing

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01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 3: the weird things like that, using like a kool Aid

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01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 3: marinade or soap for catfish.

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Speaker 4: Yehanni, anything weird?

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Speaker 3: Not that I can remember.

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01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got nothing. No, if it was trapping bait.

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01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 3: What else you got?

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01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 6: Here's something you can either set the record straight on

1577
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:16,679
Speaker 6: or agree with. But pippin Is says, what's the mediator's

1578
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 6: thoughts on the deer population? The northern part of Wisconsin?

1579
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 6: Seems the lack of deer is correlated to the wolf

1580
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 6: population according to the locals. Any insight y, Just.

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Speaker 4: No, there's no way, it's not There's no way it's

1582
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 4: not impacting that. I mean, they're they eat seven pounds

1583
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 4: of meat a day. It's like, of course it's having

1584
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 4: an impact. Is it the only thing? Certainly not? Is

1585
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 4: it a thing? Yeah, that's all I.

1586
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 3: Got to say about it.

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01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 6: Perfect spencer. Someone just asked if someone can win the

1588
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 6: trivia question of the week more than once, trying to

1589
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 6: find that one.

1590
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 3: But if I don't, they can't.

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 4: I think he's trying to point out that he's won it, don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't see I don't recognize name that I've seen

1594
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 3: before often enough. So yeah, if you're someone who hasn't

1595
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 3: sent me a hundred emails, Uh, that could certainly happen again. Yes,

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01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:10,959
Speaker 3: anything else, Phil.

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Speaker 6: I think I think we're good. Okay, it's our longest

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Speaker 6: show yet.

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Speaker 3: I think that we had We had a lot of

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01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 3: moments where someone would declare, hey, can I do we

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Speaker 3: have a moment where I can talk about this?

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01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 4: So it made it.

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01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 3: You said yeah, a little longer than normal, that's right.

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01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 3: What would happen if I didn't say yes? Oh said okay,

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01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 3: and that's it.

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01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 4: I said, don't try to talk when I'm doing something.

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01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 3: Okay. I'm glad I didn't shut him down. That brings

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Speaker 3: us to the end of this week's episode of Media

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Speaker 3: to Radio Live. We'll see you back your same time

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Speaker 3: and place seven.

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Speaker 4: Thanks everybody, thanks for watching you