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Speaker 1: Happy Monday, everybody. I hope all of you are having

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Speaker 1: a fantastic start to your week. Very very strange game there,

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Speaker 1: but I did expect it to be strange for those

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Speaker 1: and I thought it was super interesting. We're going to

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Speaker 1: NBA after the All Star break. They struggle like guarding

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Speaker 1: the perimeter. They've only been good at guarding the paint.

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Speaker 1: That's always been their defensive identity. And so that's why

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Speaker 1: I picked Boston. And the series is broken down in

434
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Speaker 1: a really interesting manner, and your honest to me is

435
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Speaker 1: the only reason it's as competitive as it has been.

436
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Speaker 1: And so it's a credit to him. And like I

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Speaker 1: have to say, I have I have been so unbelievably

438
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Speaker 1: blown away and impressed by Janice in this playoff run.

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Speaker 1: You know, as I've told you guys many times, I

440
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Speaker 1: am slow to move guys to the top. It's just

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Speaker 1: the way I'm wired. Big lebron fan here didn't think

442
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Speaker 1: he was the best part in the league until two

443
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Speaker 1: thousand and twelve. That's the manner in which that I

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Speaker 1: make these decisions for me personally, I just take it slow.

445
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 1: I give a lot of respect in leeway and margin

446
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Speaker 1: for error, in benefit of the doubt to the guys

447
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Speaker 1: that have done it year and year in and year

448
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Speaker 1: out right. That's just the way I am. But Janice

449
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: is making it unassailable at this point that he is

450
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Speaker 1: by himself at the top of the league. He looks

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Speaker 1: comfortable against this Boston defense, which is completely insane. I've

452
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Speaker 1: said this on the show before and I stand by it.

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Speaker 1: I think Boston is the best sensive team of this era.

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Speaker 1: They've at any given moment, they always have five good

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Speaker 1: defensive players on the floor. They can guard almost every position.

456
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 1: They switch, they can do drop they they double and recover.

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00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,679
Speaker 1: They're active off the ball there. They can block shots

458
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Speaker 1: at the rim, they can block shots on the perimeter.

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Speaker 1: They are a frightening defensive team. They make Kevin freaking

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Speaker 1: Durant look lost. And I have never seen Kevin freaking

461
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Speaker 1: Durant look lost. Even in his bad playoff moments in

462
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 1: the past, he never looked as bad as he did

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Speaker 1: against this Boston defense. And Janice just looks completely in

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Speaker 1: control when he has the ball. Now, again, basketball is

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Speaker 1: a team sport. It's not always gonna manifest as a win.

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Speaker 1: That's why I picked Boston. But I've been blown away

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Speaker 1: by Jhannice is passing. He is now like is he

468
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Speaker 1: is he Lebron or Yokitchener Luca or CP three with

469
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Speaker 1: the past? No, but he's in one of the tears

470
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Speaker 1: right below there. And that's a remarkable accomplishment for a

471
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Speaker 1: guy who didn't grow up playing this game, who literally

472
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Speaker 1: learned it on the fly. It's just unbelievable stuff. He's

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Speaker 1: starting to break down Boston's wall a little bit too.

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Speaker 1: That's Milwaukee's chance to keep this series going longer, is

475
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Speaker 1: you know, as the series is progressed. At the start,

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Speaker 1: it was Boston's guys were stonewalling on us, and then

477
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Speaker 1: now it's like, you're honest, is starting to run them

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Speaker 1: over a little bit. This game, in that second half,

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Speaker 1: he's starting to go right around him, like the Boston

480
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Speaker 1: players aren't even holding their ground anymore as they're starting

481
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Speaker 1: to wear down. And that's the impact he had on

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Speaker 1: Phoenix in the NBA Finals last year. It's an impact

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Speaker 1: he had on Brooklyn in the Conference semis last year.

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Speaker 1: That's what he does to you, He just slowly but

485
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Speaker 1: surely breaks you down because he's the most physically imposing

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Speaker 1: player of this era, and that's how it goes. A

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Speaker 1: couple other quick notes on Boston's front al Horford playoff

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Speaker 1: career high thirty points tonight just an absolute monster. He's

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Speaker 1: an example of the way matchups and scheming can lead

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Speaker 1: to a specific player having a ton of success. Do

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Speaker 1: you guys remember in the two thousand fifteen NBA Finals,

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Speaker 1: You Warriors fans will remember this vividly well, But do

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Speaker 1: you remember how Andrey Guadala kept making corner threes and

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Speaker 1: as a result, his scoring numbers were inflated and he

495
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Speaker 1: was guarding Lebron as the primary defender, so he got

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Speaker 1: a finals m v P. But anybody who was watching

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Speaker 1: the series understood what was actually happening in that series

498
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Speaker 1: was Steph was running high pick and roll with Dre,

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Speaker 1: and Cleveland had in their scheme a trap of every

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Speaker 1: staff curry pick and roll. So whoever was guarding Dre

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Speaker 1: like Tristan Thompson, or and whoever was guarding Steph like

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Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving, those two guys would go Steph and they

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Speaker 1: dumped the ball over the top. Excuse me, they dumped

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Speaker 1: the ball over the top to Draymond. Draymond would roll

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Speaker 1: down the lane. Lebron would come over and help and

506
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Speaker 1: shut off Draymond on the on the short roll, and

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Speaker 1: Draymond would kick to the left corner. Every single time.

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Speaker 1: Always wide open was Andrea Guadala and he would make

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Speaker 1: the shot. And so the points are going to Andre Gudala.

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Speaker 1: But it's a scheme thing, and it's Steph that was

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Speaker 1: creating that. That's why that happened, right, That's why I

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Speaker 1: thought Steph got so awfully robbed of his Finals MVP

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Speaker 1: that he deserves and that he has in my book. Right,

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Speaker 1: But that's the way scheming can lead to a role

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Speaker 1: player getting fantastic shots and it having an impact on

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Speaker 1: a series. That's what happened to Al Horford in this series,

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Speaker 1: and it's happened like crazy in the last couple of games.

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Speaker 1: NBA drop coverage is designed to take away the paint

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Speaker 1: and when you chase the guard over the top of

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Speaker 1: the screen and the biggest waiting in the paint, both

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Speaker 1: of those players are going with the guy who has

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Speaker 1: the ball, essentially, and when you're rolling to the basket

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Speaker 1: with a traditional role man like Clink Capella, You're okay

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Speaker 1: because the guy who's in drop coverage, the big man

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Speaker 1: who's in drop coverage, can guard both the role man

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Speaker 1: and the guard as long as the other guy chases

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Speaker 1: him and funnels him to the basket. Right. But if

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Speaker 1: I have Al Horford set this screen and I have

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Speaker 1: him popped to the three point line and the biggest

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Speaker 1: still in drop around the basket and the guard is

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Speaker 1: still chasing the other guard over the top of the screen,

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Speaker 1: Horford is going to be open every single time. And

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Speaker 1: so he's been wide open and picking pops all series long,

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Speaker 1: and he's and he's been knocking him down in off

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Speaker 1: ball situations. If if Brook Lopez, as part of the

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee defense, wants to hawk the paint, then Al Horford

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Speaker 1: just sits in the week side corner and now Jayson

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00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: Tatum all he has to do is get by Wesley Matthews,

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Speaker 1: apply a little bit of rim pressure so that Brooke

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Speaker 1: commits easy kick pass out to Al Horford in the

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Speaker 1: corner and he's making them. You know again, Like a

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Speaker 1: lot of times, fans, especially fans of a losing team,

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Speaker 1: will focus on shot shot value, right or shot I

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Speaker 1: should say shot outcome. Oh that they made all their shots.

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Speaker 1: Al Horford couldn't miss tonight. You know, I can't believe

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Speaker 1: Boston's making all these threes. They're wide open. It's shot

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Speaker 1: quality determined shot out for the most part, especially over

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Speaker 1: a large sample size. Yes, in a weird game like

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00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: Golden State Memphis tonight, you might get some weird outcomes

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Speaker 1: on open shots. But for the most part, especially when

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Speaker 1: you become familiar with the team, wide open shots for

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00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: good shooters are probably gonna go in, and they did,

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna keep going in. Boston shot wide open

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00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: threes in the first round. There were wide open threes

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Speaker 1: through games one through three of this series. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what they shot tonight because I haven't seen the

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00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: stats yet, but they've made all their open shots tonight.

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00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: That's scheming. That's Andrea Guadala hitting corn quarter threes in

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Speaker 1: the two thousand fifteen finals. That's how this works. So

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Speaker 1: credit to Al Horford. I'm not trying to undercut him

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Speaker 1: by at all, but I just think it's super interesting

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Speaker 1: the way that scheming can lead to an individual performance

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Speaker 1: as great as that last touch on this series Jayson Tatum,

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Speaker 1: you know, awful, awful, awful Game three, and the mark

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Speaker 1: of greatness is bounced back. You know, obviously consistency is

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Speaker 1: the old mint mark of greatness, but not everyone's Lebron.

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Speaker 1: Lebron is Lebron is great in every playoff game. But

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Speaker 1: you know what, He's gonna go down as the second

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Speaker 1: best basketball player of all time, maybe the first. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So that's that standard, and Janice is quickly trending in

571
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: that trend did that direction himself. But like Jayson Tatum

572
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Speaker 1: had a really bad game in game in Game three,

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Speaker 1: and he bounced back, made a ton of big shots

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Speaker 1: at the end of the game that I used to

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Speaker 1: the game. A couple of I thought that the story

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Speaker 1: of the game for Tatum was attacking the paint. It

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Speaker 1: was played early in the game in transition where he

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Speaker 1: put his head down and he dunked on Brook Lopez

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Speaker 1: like you like you wouldn't believe. It was frightening, just

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00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:40,479
Speaker 1: a vicious tone setting message sending dunk. And as a result,

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Speaker 1: he made seven made paint field goals in this game.

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Speaker 1: So gotten to the paint, made seven shots only three

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Speaker 1: in game three. So his relentlessness attacking the basket was

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00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: a big part of him getting going tonight. Made an

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Speaker 1: impossible lay up down the stretch of that game to

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Speaker 1: ice it too. You know, and and shots a action

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Speaker 1: has been the story of this entire series for Boston.

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Speaker 1: When they've been able to get out of the half court,

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Speaker 1: excuse me, when they've been able to keep the game

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Speaker 1: in the half court and keep Milwaukee out of transition,

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Speaker 1: they've dominated, but they've lost games in transition. They were

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Speaker 1: twenty points down in fast breakpoints in game one, they

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Speaker 1: lost even in fast breakpoints. In game two they won

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Speaker 1: down ten and fast break points. In game three they lost.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's that's the way that that dynamic shifts

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Speaker 1: on their ability to keep control of the game. Tatum

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Speaker 1: was a big part of that tonight. I thought his

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Speaker 1: his shot selection was really really smart, much better job

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Speaker 1: keeping his teammates involved the only in one assist in

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Speaker 1: game three at five assists tonight, so credit to Jayson Dante.

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Speaker 1: We did a deeper dive on this game earlier. You

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Speaker 1: can find it on our YouTube stream. Did thirty minutes

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Speaker 1: on this game, got into a ton of the details,

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Speaker 1: So go on to our YouTube page later and you

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Speaker 1: can check that out there. We're gonna bring my guy

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Speaker 1: Carson on. UM. Make sure you liked this video and

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Speaker 1: out every night this week. We're gonna be going live

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Speaker 1: after every big game, and make sure you follow me

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at underscore Jason lt for video content. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna bring my guy Carson on and we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: five big questions. What's up my guy? Oh, we're good, Jason.

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Speaker 1: Hope you guys enjoyed my big there where nobody could

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Speaker 1: hear me. Let's go modern technology. It's amazing how this

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Speaker 1: stuff works. Okay, Yeah, I am on your side here.

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Speaker 1: I mean I have said, I think several times on

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Speaker 1: the show that I'm a big Yokich advocate, and I

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Speaker 1: just think it's incredibly difficult to hold the Nuggets relative

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Speaker 1: lack of playoffs success. I mean, they won a series

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Speaker 1: last year, obviously without Jamal and with a roster that

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Speaker 1: didn't compare in terms of talent to the top teams

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Speaker 1: out west. It was an abysmal defensive Portland team. But

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Speaker 1: it's a regular season award first and foremost, his regular

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Speaker 1: season production efficiency on off data, you know, just the

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Speaker 1: eye tests in terms of how he empowers that offense undeniable,

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Speaker 1: and even in terms of playoff performance, I mean he

627
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Speaker 1: put up thirty one thirteen and six on fifties out

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Speaker 1: and a half percent from the field. The Nuggets offense

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Speaker 1: was better in the playoffs than it was in the

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Speaker 1: regular season. But it's just a matter of a massive

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Speaker 1: talent deficits. So I think people are very unfair at

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Speaker 1: times with the Yoka stuff, and I just don't think

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Speaker 1: it's a good way to evaluate a guy's merit looking

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Speaker 1: at an individual playoff series in which the team is

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Speaker 1: totally outclass talent wise and saying, well, that negates a

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Speaker 1: regular season. That just doesn't make sense to me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, the the whole like best players should win

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Speaker 1: every series thing is kind of like a it's it's

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Speaker 1: a skip any less line of thing thinking. I have

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Speaker 1: a huge problem with it. To me, it just doesn't

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Speaker 1: it's low brow. It it disrespects the game of basketball

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Speaker 1: and what it actually means. Like talk to guys like

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Speaker 1: Lebron and Steph two guys who are the two most

644
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Speaker 1: successful players of this era, and they will tell you

645
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: time and time again that it's their teammates that that

646
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: have carried them to this point, not carried them, but

647
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: that have helped them get to this point. I mean,

648
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Speaker 1: I'm curious your thoughts, Carson, what do you think of

649
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Speaker 1: What do you think of my idea that in a

650
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: field of flawed candidates you default to the guy who

651
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: was the best player in the league this year I

652
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: thought Janice. I do think that that's interesting, But I

653
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: think kind of the key point is what you also

654
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: touched on, and that the Bucks, in terms of encourt

655
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: performance this year, outscored their opponents by less with Janice

656
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: on the floor than the Denver Nuggets did with Yokich

657
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: on the floor. And it's like, to me, once you

658
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: reach that point, it's okay, you know, what more does

659
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: Yokich have to do? I think that's a sound line

660
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: of thinking. But I just think the overachievement in team

661
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: success for the Nuggets and the relative underachievement for the Box,

662
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: to me, makes up for that best player in the

663
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: world kind of default factor. That's a really solid case, Carson.

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Speaker 1: I can't argue with you there. My final thought on

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00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: it is no problem with Yokich deserving m v P.

666
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: Don't feel like it's a travesty This isn't Russell westbroke

667
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: in two thousand seventeen. But it just I personally in

668
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: this situation would have gone with the honest. But I

669
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Speaker 1: don't have any problem with the case. Yeah, and I

670
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: will say, just to the best player in the series

671
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: point that you touched on, it's like the Warriors had

672
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: five of the six best players in that series. You know,

673
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,479
Speaker 1: Yokich is the loan exception there, so it's very tough

674
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: to look at that as Okay, one guy is determinative

675
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: of everything there. All right, now we're rolling Jason, everybody

676
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: can hear me. We're talking about Yokis. We're feeling great.

677
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: Let's talk about a couple of other superstars here, both

678
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: of whom are maybe in the midst of a comeback

679
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: here got their series even from down two oh to

680
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: to a piece. We're talking about the Sixers and the

681
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: MAVs here, led by Joel Embiad and Luca don Che. So, Jason,

682
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Speaker 1: who do you think has the better chance of actually

683
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: successfully leading that comeback all the way and beat or Luca? Okay,

684
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Speaker 1: let me before I answer this, let me clearly differentiate

685
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: between who I think is the better player and who

686
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: a better playoff player and who I think actually has

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00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: a better chance of leading to come back. I think

688
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: Embiad has a better chance of leading to come back

689
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: because I'm actually picking the sixers at this point. I

690
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: did a deep dive on this. You guys can find

691
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: it on our video on our YouTube channel from earlier today.

692
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: Did a ton of film study on on games three

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Speaker 1: and game four. The there is a dynamic taking place

694
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: with Miami that they can't score with Joel Embid on

695
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: the floor. So Joel Embiid as the defensive ful chrum

696
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: plus everything. They figured out some really interesting stuff with

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00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: with his post ups today or yesterday, Like they Miami

698
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: was doing this really interesting like front backside help things.

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00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: So they were switching pick and rolls with Embad and

700
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: happily putting guards on Embiid and happily letting him go

701
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: post them up. But they were just fronting him and

702
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: then helping from the backside, so nothing was open. Well.

703
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: Philly had some really interesting counters today where they use

704
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: some player movement and some ball movement to capitalize on

705
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: those fronts to get easy shots for Joel Embiid. I

706
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: think they have more chess moves to make in this

707
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: series because I think they have better players to utilize

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Speaker 1: in the half court. I thought it was a damn

709
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: shame that Doc Rivers went down to Miami and tricked

710
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 1: off those first two games the way that he did,

711
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: But I mean all at all, Like Embiad, I think

712
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: is actually going to win the series now, Luca he

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Speaker 1: has a chance to, but I think Phoenix is so

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Speaker 1: much better that they'll pull it off. My thing is like,

715
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Speaker 1: like in a vacuum, would I rather have Luca or

716
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Speaker 1: Embiid for a playoff series? I value that half court

717
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: surgery to such a high extent that I'm always going

718
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: to default to a guy like Luca, Whereas, like for

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Speaker 1: Joel Embiid, maybe for an eighty two game season, his

720
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: defensive capabilities are more valuable, but and beads more likely

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00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: to lead to come back because his team has a

722
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: better chance of winning. But I still think Luca is

723
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: a better playoff player, if that makes sense. Yeah, I

724
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: completely agree with you every step of the way there.

725
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: And even when Luca is having an offshooting night like

726
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: he did in Game four, you just feel the pronounced

727
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: playmaking impact. You see him just effortlessly collapsing the defensive

728
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: whatnot creating so many open threes so frequently, And I

729
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: mean the guy is well, maybe he's not the top

730
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: playoff score ever anymore, maybe he's back down to number two,

731
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: but like his playoff production is unfathomably great. But I

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Speaker 1: also agree with you and that the Sixers are I

733
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Speaker 1: think a better team facing certainly on inferior team in

734
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: Miami as compared to the Suns, and they're just in

735
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: much better position. It's really, I think a very tall

736
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 1: task to ask Luca to overcome just the talent deficit

737
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: that they're facing against the Sun's team that is so complete.

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Speaker 1: What do you think he would have to do to

739
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: actually get them to that point? Like how incredible would

740
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: Luca have to be? And what would have to go

741
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: right around is too he's gotta make shots. I mean, like,

742
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: what's crazy is Lucas Lucas having a really good offensive

743
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: series overall when you factor and everything he's bringing to

744
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: the table. I mean, you have to have a really

745
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: good offensive series from Luca to be too two with

746
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: the team like the Suns. But he was one for

747
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: ten on on his threes again against Phoenix. I think

748
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: it was you do you remember that that. Do you

749
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: remember the exact percentage in your TikTok that that Luca

750
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: shot on playoffs step back threees? Do you remember off

751
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: top of your head? I think it was forty six

752
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: point three? Guys? How insane is that? Like, obviously I

753
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: think it was coming into that series, are coming into

754
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 1: game two or game three that series, But to shoot

755
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: just under on step back threes in the playoffs is

756
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: a ridiculous level of efficiency. And he's been shooting like

757
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: ship in this series. So like my thing is, like

758
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 1: I'm picking Phoenix to win the series. Still my guess

759
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: is in seven games. But Dallas chance is basically exactly

760
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: what they're doing. Jalen Brunson getting things going a little

761
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: bit more, you know, Uh, Spencer Dinwoody spot impact much

762
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: much better defense. Reggie Bullock and and uh and Reggie

763
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: Bullock and Dorian Phinnie Smith have been unbelievable on the

764
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,919
Speaker 1: defensive end. They've gone away from power for a little

765
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: bit more. In a little bit more, Maxi kleeb because

766
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: it opens things up for them scoring in the half court.

767
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of good things going on,

768
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: and that's how it's too too. But you win this

769
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: series with Luca going into Phoenix in game five and

770
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: going seven for ten on step back three is instead

771
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: of one for ten on step back three. So to me,

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00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: that will be the because that's kind of like a

773
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 1: lot of those difficult shots he takes, the step backs

774
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: and the turnarounds in the posts and stuff like that.

775
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: Those are like the way he bails out the end

776
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: of possessions when things when they've run their actions a

777
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: few times and they didn't get an open three out

778
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: of it, they'll go back to Luca in an io

779
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: and he'll take those shots. So like they are rescue

780
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: possessions and they haven't been scoring on the rescue possessions.

781
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: So if Lucas starts scoring on those rescue possessions, that'll

782
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: that'll be a wins it. The great example of what

783
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm talking about is James Harden last night. Like James

784
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,439
Speaker 1: Harden last night was making the step back three and

785
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: as a result, he was able to rescue a bunch

786
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: of possessions and next thing you know, Philly has a

787
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: hundred twenty points against a really good Miney defense. Well

788
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,959
Speaker 1: let's get back to that series for a second here, Jason,

789
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 1: because you mentioned obviously these sort of Doc rivers masterclass

790
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: of messing things up in those first couple of games.

791
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: But we are back even at two games a piece

792
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: now between Philly and Miami. So do you think there's

793
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: any chance that Doc is actually doing a good job now, Jason?

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00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: He is? He flat out his Like, I mean, this

795
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: is this kind of reminds me of the Rudy Gobert situation,

796
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: where like, if you guys remember with Rudy Gobert, the

797
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: narrative surrounding him kind of exploded to the point where

798
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: it wasn't matching what was actually happening on the court.

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Speaker 1: The theory was, oh, you can score on Rudy Gobert,

800
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Speaker 1: and it was like, actually, no, no, no, you can

801
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Speaker 1: score on the jazz. But Rudy Gobert is basically like

802
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: literally like like R two D two in Star Wars

803
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: trying to plug all the holes in the in the

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00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: in the little electrical board, right or I guess that

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00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: was B B eight, But I'm butchering Star Wars references.

806
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: Star Wars reference anyway. My point is is, like Empeed

807
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: is is uh, Gobert is always plugging all these holes

808
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: for them, and so he ended up catching the bad

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00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: rip Tatian for what was basically a roster construction issue, right,

810
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: you know, And and that's kind of like I'm not

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00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: under selling docs previous failures, like and I have super

812
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: critical of what he did to start this series. I

813
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: thought he was. I thought, and again, like, it's hard

814
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: to convince the traditional basketball coach has been around for

815
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: a long time to do something crazy like bench the

816
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: two centers you have to play five wings all game long.

817
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: But that that's just what I would have done. But

818
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: that's that's Monday morning quarterbacking. So it's it's irrelevant overall,

819
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: though in this playoff run, I thought he outcoached Nick

820
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: Nurse that I need to really. I thought it was

821
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: genius the way that he pushed the ball so much

822
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: in transition early in that series. That that's always been

823
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Speaker 1: a weakness of Phillies and he turned it into his strength.

824
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: And that's one of the biggest reasons why people were

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00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: picking Toronto. People like myself for picking Toronto was I

826
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: thought they'd be able to win the transition battle, and

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Speaker 1: Philly won the transition battle. They did. Doc did a

828
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: really good job coaching up on the defensive end of

829
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: the floor that series, particularly basically just daring Toronto to shoot,

830
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: and it burned them a couple of times, obviously when

831
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: they were up three. Oh, but they won a big

832
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: game in Game six on the road by daring Toronto

833
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: to shoot and they went ice cold. And then in

834
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Speaker 1: this series, and I've I've I've broke this down just

835
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: a minute ago. I won't go too much further into it,

836
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: but like his his the dynamics he's been using to

837
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: counter the way that Miami has guarded and Beat has

838
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 1: been really really smart. He's mixed in some zone you know.

839
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 1: There there's there's a lot of there's a lot of

840
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: high level chess moves going on on on behalf of

841
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: Doc Rivers, and then you gotta give him some credit.

842
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: Like I've always said on the show, like we have

843
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: to be critical, like I I there's no universe for

844
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: where Carson and I can put on a good show

845
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: or we're just pandering with propaganda all day long. Like

846
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: we have to be critical. But the flip side of

847
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: that is we have to be fair. If if we

848
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: are critical of players like James Harden or critical of

849
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: coaches like Doc Rivers when they do play well or

850
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: coach well, I think it's important for us to call

851
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 1: that out as well. And I think Doc has done

852
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: a really good job in this playoff run. Yeah, I

853
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: agree with you in the improvement and I think obviously

854
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 1: a lot of people keepd in on the DeAndre Jordan playing.

855
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,479
Speaker 1: You talked about that a lot. The most hilarious stat

856
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: to me was that the Sixers were sixty three points

857
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: per one possessions worse with him on the floor. Very

858
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: small sample size and three playoff games. But obviously, you know,

859
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: Doc actually made the move that it didn't seem like

860
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: he was gonna make. And we haven't seen DJ and

861
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: they've won back to back games now and there's definitely

862
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: progress on that front. Let's pivot to another Eastern Conference

863
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: series here, one that we already touched on a bit today.

864
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: Celtics Bucks Who wins Game five? Jason, I think the

865
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: Celtics are gonna win comfortably. You know, Like I told

866
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,919
Speaker 1: you guys in the show that we did Saturday night,

867
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: I believe it was Saturday night, might meant it might

868
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: have been Sunday. I said that I predicted Boston would

869
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: win by ten to fifteen points in Game three. In

870
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: Game four, which they had a ten point lead late,

871
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not actually sure what the final score

872
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: ended up being. UM and then I thought they'd go

873
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: home and win comfortably at home, Like I think they'll

874
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: feed off the home crowd and not not necessarily a blowout,

875
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: but it'll be one of those games where they're stiff

876
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: arming Milwaukee the whole game. And then I think Games

877
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: six will be a really really close game that I

878
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: think Boston will win. And the main reason why is

879
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 1: like Boston has a clear cut pathway to victory. Keep

880
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: the game in the half court, play smart offense. Do

881
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: the same thing you've been doing for damn near five

882
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: months now, and that's play the best defense of this era.

883
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,959
Speaker 1: If you do that, you're going to win. Every time

884
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: that the wheels have gone off the rails for Boston

885
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: in this series, it's been quick threes off the dribble

886
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: early in the shot clock, quick threas in transition early

887
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: in the shot clock, driving into the teeth of the

888
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: defense and trying to finish over shot blocking and getting blocked.

889
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: I pointed out earlier today, I think there were thirty

890
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: seven for forty eight or something crazy like that on

891
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 1: two's tonight. So the much better execution to get higher

892
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: quality two point shots at the rim or near the rim.

893
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: Everything for this entire series has come down to offensive

894
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: execution for Boston. Can they keep their ship together long

895
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 1: enough to get quality shots often enough to keep Milwaukee

896
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: out of transition, because when they get in transition, it's

897
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 1: Jannest dribbling the ball off the court with the head

898
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: of steam and no one can do a damn thing

899
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 1: with him. It's like, it reminds me of prime Lebron

900
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: James all the all the Lebron comps continue with the

901
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: honest thing. And they're very different players in a lot

902
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: of different ways. But one of the ways they're very

903
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: similar is Lebron was one man fast break. When he

904
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: got a steel or a block or rebound or whatever,

905
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:38,959
Speaker 1: and he started running the floor. There was just nothing

906
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 1: you can do with him. And and that's what Janice

907
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: has been doing in this series. And so I think, like,

908
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: is it I'm not counting out Milwaukee. You'd be stupid

909
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: to do so with how good Janice is and and

910
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: you also would be stupid to count out with Milwaukee

911
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 1: with how often Boston has denigrated back into terrible offense.

912
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: But I would hope at this point, they have enough

913
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: evidence to show them clearly the way that they need

914
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: to play, and they'll play that way and get the

915
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: job done. There's I think there's a very good chance

916
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: Milwaukee does win in Game six at home, but I'd

917
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: still pick Boston comfortably in a Game seven. So I

918
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: think I think Boston's in good shape at this point. Yeah,

919
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: I'm with you there. I think that I don't know

920
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: if I'm ever comfortable taking either of these teams to

921
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: win comfortably, largely just because of the honest factor in

922
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 1: the level he's playing at right now. But the Celtics

923
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: are just a better basketball team. There are more complete

924
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,959
Speaker 1: basketball team, and the half court difference that you've touched

925
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: on a lot is significant, But the honest factor is frightening.

926
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: I just don't think it's quite enough. With obviously the

927
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: Bucks down Middleton all Right played in this series real quick.

928
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 1: I think he has done his best in a really

929
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: difficult matchup. I think that he has emphasized just like

930
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: the overwhelming physical advantage he has over like I don't

931
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: know every other player in the league. I think that obviously, um,

932
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: it's been really high volume. I think that's been essential though,

933
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: and Drew has been really high volume two. But they're

934
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: just are no other creators on this roster, right, It's

935
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: like everything falls on them when you don't have Middleton.

936
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: There isn't that release valve. So it's okay, honest, find

937
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: a way, try and get downhill and playmaking, create a

938
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: shot for somebody. And he's done that. I mean, the

939
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: playmaking has been there, the finishes have been tough. Obviously,

940
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: the jump shooting hasn't been particularly good. The overall efficiency

941
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 1: hasn't been good. Um, But given that, I think he's

942
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: had as pronounced of an impact as he could have.

943
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: And obviously there's been huge defensive moments. So I feel

944
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: like this is really just a testament to his status

945
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 1: as I think he's the best player in the world.

946
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: I know that you've talked about thinking he might just

947
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: be in a tear of his own. It feels to

948
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: me like when a guy is at his worst in

949
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: terms of, you know, just purely scoring the basketball and

950
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: shot making to an extent, then you really see what

951
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: the floor is in terms of impact, and it just

952
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: feels like nobody has a higher floor right now. And

953
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: that's kind of what he's proven. So I think it's

954
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: been impressive, even if like his you know, production and

955
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: efficiency won't even compare to a normal Janna series. Yeah,

956
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: I think that he's done about as good a job

957
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: as you could possibly do against this Boston defense. Like

958
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: I I just again, I know, I know, I've been

959
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: on this Boston defense like NonStop, and I know that

960
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: that's been kind of like my little hill that I've

961
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: been on, but like it's not. It's just based on

962
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: what I've seen in film, and like there is nothing

963
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: easy against this this defense, and he has literally he

964
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: this is like it's like you're in the desert, and

965
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: in the entire Sahara desert, there's this one rag that

966
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: at one point, like twelve hours ago, was wet, and

967
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: it's like sitting on the in Janice is just squeezing

968
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: every drop of available water out of this thing. Like

969
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: that he has. He has hit the absolute peak of

970
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: what you could have expected from him in this series.

971
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: And it's too too. And they were trailing in the

972
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: final minute of Game three and Game one Boston mailed

973
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: in in a lot of different ways. So like that's

974
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: just how great Yanna say is. If I if I

975
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: had one piece of criticism i'd send his way, like

976
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: the jump shots are just turnovers, Like he's not making

977
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: nearly enough of them to take them. They always lead

978
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: to run outs. The other way, I get why he

979
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: takes them there to save his legs. So I'm not

980
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: criticizing him in that regard. My thing is like that

981
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: that part of his game is still so so, so

982
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: so far away from being a really reliable piece of

983
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: his game. Yeah, I think that's a perfectly fair criticism.

984
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: I think that's a fair criticism of Janice honestly, and

985
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: almost any series or game that he's played his basketball career,

986
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: like it feels like he takes them out of a

987
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: feeling kind of an obligation or like you talked about

988
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: conserving that. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I think he's two of

989
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: sixteen from three now, so I mean you're right, that's

990
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: those are effectively turnovers. So all right, last question for

991
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: you here, Jason. The Golden State Warriors are the title

992
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: favorites at this point? Should they be? Oh? Man, See,

993
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: what makes this tough is like I think Boston's best

994
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: punch is the best punch. I think when their defense

995
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: is locked in and they're running smart offense, no one

996
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: can beat them. But one of the reasons why my

997
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: prediction has been so flaky in this series is they've

998
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: so consistently gotten out of whack offensively, because that's what

999
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: you expect from a team that doesn't really have a

1000
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: true point guard, right, Like they don't have they don't

1001
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: have a true point forward point guard guy who's used

1002
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: to running a team. They have Marcus Smart, who's kind

1003
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: of like he pretends to be, but he's not really

1004
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: that type of guy. And then Jaalen Brown and Jason Tatum, who,

1005
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: to Tatum is obviously better than Brown at passing, but

1006
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: he's not great. I looked down uh, the Philly the

1007
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: Philly Miami series. I think both of those teams are

1008
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: worse than both of Milwaukee and Boston going out west,

1009
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: Like the Phoenix matchup is really tricky with Golden State

1010
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: because they can they can attack some very specific weaknesses

1011
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: of Golden State. So like I think if I was

1012
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: ranking contenders at this point, i'd have Boston one, Phoenix

1013
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: to Golden State three. So I don't know that I

1014
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: call them the favorite, but I think all three of

1015
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: those teams are very close. Like I'm I think it's

1016
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: a clear one to three for me, but all of

1017
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: them are separated by the slightest of margins. So like,

1018
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if Boston lost to Phoenix in

1019
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: the finals, wouldn't be surprised if Boston lost to Golden

1020
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: State in the finals. Hell, guys, I wouldn't be surprised

1021
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: if Boston lost the series to Milwaukee still just by

1022
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: getting out of whack offensively. So like I, I don't

1023
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: think there's a I don't think there's a bona fide,

1024
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: clear cut favorite in the field. To be honest with you,

1025
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: it is really interesting because it's like the Warriors are

1026
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: an overwhelming favorite in terms of betting odds, but at

1027
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 1: fandal you have them plus one five, which is really

1028
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:14,240
Speaker 1: I don't think great value, and then Phoenix plus Boston

1029
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: plus four ten. It doesn't feel right to me, Like,

1030
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: I don't think the Warriors would be number one out

1031
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,959
Speaker 1: of that group for me. I think that you could

1032
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: argue maybe that they've had the most impressive performance purely

1033
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: in terms of the postseason, and that they haven't really

1034
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: had like a single let down game. There are a

1035
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: couple of losses, you know, still really highly contested, and

1036
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: obviously they only have two losses in these playoffs, but

1037
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 1: I I don't know that I would even have them

1038
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: one out of those three, Which of those three teams

1039
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: do you feel like has the most glaring weakness, like

1040
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:50,479
Speaker 1: the biggest red flag or concern for you? Oh, Man,

1041
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: I it's a toss up between Golden State in Boston.

1042
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: Golden State goes through these extended stretches were they take

1043
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: really bad shots, so does Boston. Golden State also has

1044
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: a size weakness that would be something that would concern me.

1045
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: I mean, gosh, again, we're talking about very very tiny

1046
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:19,280
Speaker 1: margins here, because even Phoenix's offense can be really stilted

1047
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,720
Speaker 1: when Chris Paul gets thrown out of whack. So again

1048
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: it's a small margin. But I would say, yeah, I'd

1049
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: say Golden State probably is the biggest hole there because

1050
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: they go through extended stretches of poor shot selection which

1051
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,760
Speaker 1: can derail their offense, and then they have a size

1052
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: weakness and size where they can get punished. And I thought,

1053
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is has been very clearly demonstrated tonight

1054
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: in this Memphis game. I think that's fair. I will

1055
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: always think about and You've talked about it a ton

1056
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: particularly in this series, the offensive decision making aspect with Boston,

1057
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: the lack of that traditional lead guard element like leads

1058
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: scoring and playmaking guard. There was a time earlier this

1059
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: year where I thought like that was going to be

1060
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 1: there on wing. You know that the two wings being

1061
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: you guys by so far wasn't gonna work, that they

1062
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: weren't good enough playmakers, and so I do always find

1063
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: myself a bit weary of those lapses in those moments,

1064
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: But I think they've come so far that, you know,

1065
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: for the most part, that is no longer an issue.

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Speaker 1: But I think that those are probably the two weaknesses

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Speaker 1: to identify. I don't think Phoenix can be there unless

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Speaker 1: it's like what we've talked about, where if cpre book

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Speaker 1: goes down, they don't creation. But other than that, they

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Speaker 1: are pretty incredibly solid. Yeah, to Golden State's credit, they've

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Speaker 1: always kind of like snapped back into gear. They go

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Speaker 1: through these extended stretches, but they always snap back, and

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Speaker 1: that's a credit to their experience, because like I've been

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Speaker 1: critical of Golden State compared to Phoenix in Boston here

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Speaker 1: in the last five minutes, but a lot of it

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Speaker 1: is like comparing very very good teams in the big

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Speaker 1: leg up that Golden State has his experience with. The

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Speaker 1: big reason why Boston has gotten so out of whack

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Speaker 1: in these huge moments. They do have a lot of experience.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about it here on the show. They've been

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Speaker 1: to the conference finals multiple times this group, but for

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Speaker 1: the most part, they're like Golden State, clear level up

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Speaker 1: of experience. They've been in probably twice as many playoffs

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Speaker 1: series over over this recent history. They've been to the

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Speaker 1: finals five times like Golden State has has. Just they've

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Speaker 1: just they're they're not going to be scared by anything

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Speaker 1: like this. I don't think Steph or Draymond were scared

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Speaker 1: of this game tonight. When they were down eleven and

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Speaker 1: that third quarter, they knew what they were up against.

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Speaker 1: And so if there's one leg up that they have

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Speaker 1: on their competition, it's that experience. Yeah, that is all

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Speaker 1: we have for tonight. I sincerely appreciate your support. Like

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Speaker 1: we said earlier, we're gonna be live every night this

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