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Speaker 1: so much fantastic work on the issue of pardons for

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Speaker 2: Sure that sounds about right, Buck, You know you just

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Speaker 1: Do we have any sense, truly, are you hearing anything

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Speaker 1: Declassified is Julie's sub stack. Go subscribe, Go check it out.

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Speaker 1: Julie Kelly, assuming this parton comes down, you got to

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Speaker 1: because the unchangeable logic immutable, the unchangeable logic of this.

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Speaker 1: The enduring truth is that what they are telling you

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Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. And if it doesn't matter, for example,

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Speaker 1: to do that, why does some effort to change genitals

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Speaker 1: signify a change in gender. They have no answer for this.

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Speaker 1: They don't even attempt to answer this, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I know that they will occasionally play this game. They

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Speaker 1: try this sometimes and say, what about individuals who are intersex,

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Speaker 1: which is a very rare but real medical condition where

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Speaker 1: you have some formation of both male and female parts.

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Speaker 1: It can manifest itself differently. Well, those generally, in those

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Speaker 1: cases they based upon the development of those characteristics, the

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Speaker 1: And that's not what the transagenda is about. That's not

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Speaker 1: because that's an incredibly rare condition and that's something that

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Speaker 1: is medically that is real and that does happen. But no,

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Speaker 1: they want people who have lived their life for twenty

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Speaker 1: you know, they're in their thirties, their forties. They say, well,

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Speaker 1: now i'm a woman, you have to treat me like

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Speaker 1: I'm a woman. It's very rarely that it's and I

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Speaker 1: shouldn't say's very rare, but it's more rare that it

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Speaker 1: be male. Though the lawyer who argue this before the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court falls into that category. If this was just

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Speaker 1: about individual adults making choices, then I could see how

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Speaker 1: a lot of people come to the okay, well it's fine,

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Speaker 1: let people make their own choices conclusion. But it never

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Speaker 1: Clay about before he had to jet. They want you

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Speaker 1: to start. This is why the pronoun thing is so important.

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Speaker 1: So now everyone does this normalize pronoun announcement, so that

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Speaker 1: When we know that in a just normal society, and

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Speaker 1: look at someone that's a he, that's a she, you know,

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Speaker 1: and in a very rare moment. If you don't know,

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Speaker 1: it real fast because you can tell by their voice,

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Speaker 1: you can tell by their facial features. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: want to make it seem. But ultimately it comes down

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Speaker 1: to power, because the power to make you say things

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Speaker 1: that you know are untrue, the power to make you

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Speaker 1: go along with lies and to make you celebrate them,

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Speaker 1: to make you believe them, is the ultimate political power.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is what totalitarian systems want. For example, right,

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Speaker 1: this is something I've made quite a study of. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, maybe it's in my next next, it's in

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Speaker 1: my book which will be coming out in the fall.

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Speaker 1: Totalitarian systems always have to be built upon lies and

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Speaker 1: the forced belief in lies, because once people no longer

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Speaker 1: are even entitled to parse what is true and what

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Speaker 1: is false, you can tell them and make them believe

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Speaker 1: or make them live their lives as though they believe

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Speaker 1: absolutely anything. And if we're going to be a society

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Speaker 1: where a two hundred and fifty pound man with you know,

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Speaker 1: and gets his fingernails painted because this stuff does happen,

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Speaker 1: says you know, I'm a woman now and you have

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Speaker 1: to just go along with that. And if you're a woman,

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Speaker 1: has This is where we have to draw a line.

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Speaker 1: And Matt Walsh is completely correct. I think the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court is going to draw this line just on the

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Speaker 1: issue of gender affirming care, which is another way of saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, gender transition surgery, sex change operation is what

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Speaker 1: we used to call them. I mean, interesting, why don't

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Speaker 1: wanted to be affirming it. The language is very important here,

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Speaker 1: which is just like what the pronoun thing. The language

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Speaker 1: component matters gender affirmation, that's what you're supposed to call it.

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Speaker 1: They're not illegal aliens, they're undocumented. Just give them documents

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Speaker 1: and then everything is fine. Right, So, now, actually they're migrants.

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Speaker 1: Now you've noticed, they've they've completely even gotten beyond the undocumented.

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Speaker 1: Now it's now migrants is the new term. And I

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Speaker 1: even find myself using it sometimes because unfortunately, unfortunately, and

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Speaker 1: people argue with me on this but they're wrong. Some

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Speaker 1: of the people who are here entered illegally but are

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Speaker 1: not current in an illegal status because they are pending

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Speaker 1: an asylum hearing, and our law lets them do that,

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Speaker 1: so that you know, and you could say, oh, but

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Speaker 1: they've they've lied. Yeah, well that's what the hearing is for.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, this is why I think the gender issue

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Speaker 1: you care about it so much? They'll say, well, why

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Speaker 1: do they care about it so much? They're the ones

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Speaker 1: that have made this a big issue. I know. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sitting here saying that there should be trans individuals

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Speaker 1: competing against men in sports. You know, I'm not the

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Speaker 1: one pushing this or sorry, competing against women in sports,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I just think it's

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Speaker 1: so important that we're able to say what is true.

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Speaker 1: If we lose what is true, what's the point of

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Speaker 1: free speech? If we lose what is true? What's the

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Speaker 1: point of the First Amendment? And you know that's you know,

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Speaker 1: that's where it is. Look, I u uh man, it's

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Speaker 1: so much of a seesaw here. I'm now, I'm not

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Speaker 1: getting people telling me some inside. It's so hard. This

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Speaker 1: is all an info op, right, And I'm just going

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Speaker 1: on what people are telling me that they've heard from

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Speaker 1: other people. But now I'm hearing a couple of senators

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Speaker 1: they they're they're they're gonna be hm. I gotta I

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Speaker 1: gotta parse this a little bit. There are some senators

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Speaker 1: who may be still concerned. It's different reporting on. This

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Speaker 1: is all I'm saying. Anyway, I think I think Pete's

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Speaker 1: I think Pete's right now as of today. I think

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Speaker 1: he's got the senators he needs on his side. Man,

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Speaker 1: what a what a seesaw? This is come back. I'll

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Speaker 1: take some of your calls, also take some of your

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Speaker 1: To my fellow firearms owners, I was actually rearranging my

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Speaker 3: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton telling it like it is.

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Speaker 4: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you

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Speaker 4: get your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Closing up shop here on Clay and Buck. He'll be

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Speaker 1: back tomorrow, so we'll be doing show as a usual.

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Speaker 1: But Friday, I'm solo plays flying to Israel, so he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be over there bringing us some ground truth that'll

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Speaker 1: be really interesting for him. I've been to his room

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Speaker 1: I wanted to get you before we close up shop today.

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Speaker 3: The the judge who was overseeing the case against Hunter Biden,

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Speaker 3: Federal Judge Mark Scarze, wrote a.

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Speaker 1: Scathing judicial opinion where he noted that Biden lied about

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Speaker 1: his son in his presidential pardon. I won't get into

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Speaker 1: all this. It goes into some details, but the long

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Speaker 1: and the short of it is the whole. Oh, but

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Speaker 1: Hunter was a drug addict. That's why he didn't pay

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Speaker 1: his taxes. No, Hunter had, by his own admission, stop

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Speaker 1: using drugs at that point, set up LLCs and was

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Speaker 1: trying to be sophisticated in his tax evasion, So that

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Speaker 1: is a lie. So I just think it's so perfect

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Speaker 1: it encapsulates who Joe Biden really is that even when

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Speaker 1: he's pardoning his son for his serial criminal violations that

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Speaker 1: would go to prison for, he lies to make it

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Speaker 1: seem Joe Biden lies to make it seem like you

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Speaker 1: should have even more sympathy for his son, that somehow

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Speaker 1: here you go. Two federal judges expressly rejected mister Biden's

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Speaker 1: argument that the government prosecuted Biden because of his familiar

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Speaker 1: relation to the present sident and the president's own attorney

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Speaker 1: general and justice personnel oversaw the investigation leading to the charges.

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Speaker 1: In the President's estimation, this legion of federal civil servants

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Speaker 1: are unreasonable people. The Constitution provides the president with broad

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Speaker 1: authority to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the

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Speaker 1: United States, But nowhere does the Constitution give the president

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Speaker 1: the authority to rewrite history. End quote. Yeah, President's a liar,

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Speaker 1: and not a liar about little things. Not a liar

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Speaker 1: about his golf game, which apparently is not very good either.

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Speaker 1: According to Trump, he's a liar about the big stuff

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Speaker 1: and always has been and always will be. And he

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Speaker 1: fell asleep in a meeting, you know, a public meeting

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Speaker 1: in Africa in Angola. So you know the fact that

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Speaker 1: this guy's still even the president just goes to show you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how can they have a problem with any

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Speaker 1: of Trump nominees for posts under him under his administration

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Speaker 1: when Joe Biden's the president and we think about that

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Speaker 1: for a second, So they can have a dementia pation

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Speaker 1: as the president. But we're supposed to demand perfection or

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Speaker 1: you know, however you want to frame it. But Trump

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Speaker 1: is not supposed to get the appointees that he wants

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Speaker 1: for his cabinet. That strikes me as that strikes me

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Speaker 1: as quite unfair, doesn't it. Thanks for being here with us,

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