1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Know Your Foe on Colts dot Com and 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: in death look at the upcoming matchup. Here are your hosts, 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: Casey Valier and former Colts wide receiver Bill Brooks. Well, 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: for the final time we are here for Know Your 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: Foe on Colts dot Com. I'm your host Casey value 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: joined us always by Colts Ring of Honor wide receiver 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: Bill Brooks. And it is the season finale this Sunday 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: is the Colts host of the Houston Texans, and to 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: give us some insight on the Texans, we turn to 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: John Harris, who's the football analyst for Houston Texans Radio 11 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: and Texans TV and also the sideline reporter for Texans Radio. John, 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: thank you so much for the time. I really appreciate it. Absolutely. 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: It's a pleasure being with you guys for sure. Thank 14 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: you for having me. Well, it's a it's a tough 15 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: place to start with both teams having, you know, really 16 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: tough seasons to this point, both teams are not playoff 17 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: bound at all. But you know, we can talk about 18 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: a handful of spots and I want to start with 19 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: the play from the quarterback at Davis Mills. I know 20 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 1: they're doing a little bit more with you know, kind 21 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: of a two quarterback system right now with Davis Mills 22 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: and Jeff Driscoll. But when it comes to this, Davis Mills, 23 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: are we sitting here at the finale with a fore 24 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: gone conclusion that the Texans are going to be drafting 25 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: a quarterback in April? Well, what I've said all along 26 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: case he is. As the Texans. This just hasn't been 27 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: good enough. I mean all year long. The lack of consistency. 28 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: The lack of consistency really showed up last week, in 29 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: particular at Nashville against Tennessee. The final drive, Davis was 30 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: four for four for sixty nine yards, a big touchdown 31 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: to get us to win. I mean, it was what 32 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: we've all dreamed of Davis Mills being. And then this 33 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: past week against Jacksonville, the phrase he could hit the 34 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: broadside of a barn. I mean there were guys open 35 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: and Davis was five to seven yards away from those throws. 36 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you guys have been on the league. You 37 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: know when a throw is missed, and you know when 38 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: a throw is completely errant, and there were a lot 39 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: of his errant throws and it just felt like the 40 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: confidence was definitely gone. At that point, so I do 41 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: think it's gonna happen with the quarterback. It makes this 42 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: one really interesting because it does affect whether the Techtans 43 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: end up with the first pick or the second pick, 44 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: depending also what happens in Chicago. So it's kind of 45 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,679 Speaker 1: the right way of saying this is kind of an 46 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: odd game from that standpoint. Now, I do think there 47 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: are two elite quarterbacks in this draft, so if you're 48 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: at two, you're gonna at least get the opportunity to 49 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: draft one. But I think that's been the story this year. 50 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: You know, the defense has really hung in there. It's 51 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: not been great, but it's hung in there at times. 52 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: There have been a number of games, a lot more 53 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: than people understand for the Texans, where we've been in 54 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: the game in the fourth quarter. You just rattle off 55 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: and we had a seventeen point lead against Indian the 56 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: fourth quarter and blew that one. The next week at Denver. 57 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: We had a league going to the fourth quarter at 58 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: Chicago or Tago on the fourth quarter. You know, even 59 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: against Dallas when we were ahead going to the fourth quarter. 60 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: Kansas City, we're a head going into the fourth quarter. 61 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: We just haven't been able to make plays in the 62 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. And you guys both know when it comes 63 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: to quarterbacking, the one thing you better be able to 64 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: do is be consistent good in the fourth quarter. You 65 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: got to be good in the clutch, and we just 66 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: haven't been able to do that to pull off the 67 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: wins that maybe this team I don't say deserved, but 68 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: there were spots where they could have won game. So 69 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: they just haven't gotten it done in the second half 70 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. And I think that's going to 71 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: lead to the Texans making a decision at quarterback this offseason, 72 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: and more than likely in the draft. Now. John a 73 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: player that Texans did draft this past year and has 74 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: been productive. It's running back Damian Pierce, a fourth round 75 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: draft pick out of Florida. I know he was placed 76 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: on ir but how surprised were you buy his play 77 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: this year and what are your expectations of him next year? Well, 78 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: it's a great question about Damian. You know, he came 79 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: in here as a fourth rounder and I do a 80 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: ton of draft work, so it was interesting that day. 81 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: We were looking at the board and you know, we 82 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: hadn't drafted a running back yet, and we're like, okay, 83 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: here's who's on the board. You know, Bruce Hall was 84 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: the guy know that the organization liked, but you know 85 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: he was snatched up. I didn't get picked thirty five 86 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: and so well, we quote unquote settled for Jalen Petrie 87 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: a couple of peeks later, and that ended up being 88 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: a good settling. Yeah, but when Pierce was there, you know, 89 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: there was a guy from Houston, Isaiah Spiller, played at 90 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: a m He's from Houston. We had drafted Kenyan Green 91 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: and we were talking on a draft show that oh, 92 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: you know, Spiller would make sense. You know, we need 93 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: running back and he's young dude. He would come in 94 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: here and fit fine. And then we started hearing you know, 95 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: they like Damian Peers from Florida, and I loved it 96 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: because of the way that Damian approaches the game. He is, 97 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: He's he's kind of an old school running back. I mean, 98 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: he has not met a defender that he liked, and 99 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: he will run through them and run over them and 100 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: run around him. I mean the run that he has 101 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: a Jacksonsville in week five is I just we just 102 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: call it the run. Now. We're just like, oh, yeah, 103 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: the run. We all know what you're talking about because 104 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: he's given He gave us that, and when he went 105 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: out in that Dallas game, it really hurt us because 106 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: we didn't have him to go to on the goal 107 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: line when we needed to score and finish the game. 108 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: And we didn't have him last week against Jacksonsville. We 109 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: needed to get into the game because the past of 110 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: men couldn't get going. He's gonna be, you know, the 111 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: future of this offense. I do think we need somebody 112 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: to go with him. It can't be you know, Damian's 113 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: running the ball. Oh now he needs to break and 114 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: the drop off from from Damien to everybody else is 115 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: so vast, you know, we need somebody that could step 116 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: in there and do something along the lines of what 117 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: Naim Hines gave the Colts next to Jonathan Taylor. We 118 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: need somebody like that as well. And that's where we 119 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: were struggled without Damien. We've been you know, thirty carries 120 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: for seventy yards. You know, we plow through, but you 121 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: can't plow through in this league. You got to be 122 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: able to power through, and we just haven't been able 123 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: to do that without Damien. But from the first day 124 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: at training camp, we all looked at other and said, 125 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: oh boy, this could be fun. This is the best 126 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: running back we have. Let's see if he ends up 127 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: being the guy. And even though he didn't get as 128 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: many carries against Indianapolis, it really started the next week 129 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: at Denver and he was great all year long, being 130 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: you know and I are at the end of the year. 131 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: Maybe it saves him. You know, let's say he misses 132 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: four games, that's probably twenty hits. Maybe, you know, you 133 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: save him, you know, a few games that hits on 134 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: his body as he goes into the offseason, and that 135 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: might end up being a good thing. But we need 136 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: more help. But he's at least the starting point in 137 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: the run game for sure. Yeah. Now, John I moved 138 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: to the wide receivers. Coming into the season, two players 139 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: of Texas were counting on were Brandon Cooks and Nico Collins. 140 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: Brandon wanted to be traded during the season and Nico 141 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: has missed some games and is on irm. What do 142 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: you see for the future of Brandon with the Texans 143 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: And is Nico developing into the receiver they expected? Well, 144 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: but I'll start with Nico. Um. I don't know if 145 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: you have any eligibility left, Billboy, you know he's in 146 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: good shape, but you yeah, I know, you know, it's 147 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: like Andre Johnson, Andre walks into our studio, We're like Dred, 148 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: you could still play. I'll start with Nico though. Nico 149 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: made a lot of progress this year, and it's unfortunate 150 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: that he ended up getting hurt, but he ended up 151 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: being a guy that Davis and the quarterbacks really relied on. 152 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: But they got into trouble, they would look to him. 153 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: I mean, what he did against New York Giants. I'm thinking, man, 154 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: this this guy is about really to take the next step. 155 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: Then he gets banked up and you know, he just 156 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: can't finish year. And I think that's that's kind of 157 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: the knock on Nico at this point two years, he's 158 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: been hanged up the significant amount, but when he's on 159 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: the field, he is very difficult to cover. I mean 160 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: he is he's our version um to kind of bring 161 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: him back Tommiapoli. It's kind of our version of Michael 162 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: Pittman with maybe another inch or so. Um. So he's 163 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: developing and we need him to be that guy. Now, 164 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: some will say this draft class is not great. It 165 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: doesn't have a Jamar Chase, it doesn't have a you know, 166 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: a Justin Jefferson, but it's got a lot of depth 167 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: and tell a lot of speed, and so I think 168 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: we'll definitely look in the draft to add more to 169 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: the mix. Now, we missed John Metchi this year. Um. 170 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: We knew we were going to miss him for a 171 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: few games because of the AHL that he suffered in 172 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: the SEC Championship game. But then he came down with 173 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: leukemia and we thought, oh my gosh, now we got 174 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: to go through this again because David Quzenberry had to 175 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: go through twenty fourteen. So it's just unfortunate. But you know, 176 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: METSI will be like a bonus draft pick next year, 177 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: which would be kind of nice. Now, as it pertains 178 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: to Brandon, what's the phrase, it's complicated, UM, this is 179 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: this is definitely that situation. It's definitely complicated, especially um 180 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: from the trade deadline on Um. You know, he came 181 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: through for us on Christmas Eve Day in Nashville with 182 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: a big touchdown catch in the end zone. Um. But 183 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: he's been kind of in and out of the lineup 184 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: and some of us been injuries, some of that has 185 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: been just and other reasons. I'll just like that, I 186 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: don't know I don't know what the future holds for 187 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: Brandon from that. From that standpoint, I mean contractually, UM, 188 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: if he stays here or moves on, I still there 189 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: has to be some work on it because he's got 190 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: eighteen million dollars guaranteed for next year. UM. And so 191 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: there's gonna have to be some work on that contract 192 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: no matter what happens. Um. So UM, we're just watching 193 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: him out of practice. And one thing I always say 194 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: about Brandon is when when the guy shows up to work, 195 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 1: he works. He's one of the hardest workers I've ever seen. UM. 196 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: And so if he shows up to play in week eighteen, 197 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: he's gonna give everything he's got and hopefully give us 198 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: an opportunity to move to football through the year. But 199 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: what the future is, what if us for Nico is 200 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: very clear, stay healthy, he'll become the number one guy. 201 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: For Brandon, it's a little bit murkier. I'm not sure 202 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: where it's gonna end up going. He's been in a 203 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: tough situation here with the last few season. I mean 204 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: got in her twenty twenty and we've won four to 205 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: four and two games since, And that really is not 206 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: an indication to what Brandon Cooks can do on a field. 207 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: It's just been a fortunate the situation that we've been 208 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 1: in with the lack of talent and then this year 209 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: bringing a lot of young talent like Damian Pierce we mentioned. 210 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: We're joined by John Harris Football Alston, sideline reporter for 211 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: the Texans. You mentioned that the defense has kind of 212 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: battled all year. When you look at the numbers, they 213 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: aren't great. So how do you assess the way that 214 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: the numbers kind of read and where this defense actually 215 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: played this season? That's a great question case. Yeah, you know, 216 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: there have been some moments where you can see some 217 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: really good things happening. And I think a perfect example 218 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: of this is against Tennessee up there. You know, Derrick 219 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: Henry going into that game had had four straight two 220 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: hundred yard rushing games, four straight, and Guys, I was 221 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: there for every single one of them, watching from the 222 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: sideline or the COVID year the first row of the stand. 223 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: I watched every one of them, and I just would 224 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: curse his name every time. And so when we when 225 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 1: we went up there to play them in the first quarter, 226 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: he breaks off a forty eight yard touchdown run and 227 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: I am just saying some really bad words. I can't 228 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: stay in the air. I'm just really upset, and I'm like, 229 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: he's gonna do it again. And then over the rest 230 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: of the game, over the next twenty carries or whatever 231 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: we were left in the game, he averaged under three 232 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: yards to carry or just a just about three yards 233 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: to carry. And it was that one big play that 234 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: that killed us. But because the run defense got it 235 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: back together with a bunch of rookies and some second 236 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: year guys, they held Derrick Henry to about three yards 237 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 1: per carry for the rest of the game and we 238 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: were able to get back in the game and win 239 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: the game because of that. And there's been a lot 240 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: of that. There have been some really good moments and 241 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, bang, there goes Khalil Herbert 242 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: for fifty two yards against the Bears. You know last week, 243 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: Travis Eathian, you're not getting gas by him yet, but 244 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: then you know, kind of hold him a check for 245 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: the most part, and then all of sudden, sixty two 246 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: yard run like godly. So there's been those big plays, 247 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: and it's been miss tackles, you know, a guy out 248 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: of a gap, and in some cases it's been that 249 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: offense has more elite players than we do, but there 250 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: have been times in the Dallas game where we're really 251 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: holding them in check. It's Dallas, I mean, they've got 252 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: players all over the place. We just against the run. 253 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: Got in such a hole this year and one of 254 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: the reasons Malie Collins missed about three or four games 255 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: in the middle of the season and that's when teams 256 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: really gassed. But when Malik has been back, he's been very, 257 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: very good. This team needs more elite talent on the 258 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 1: front seven. Now they can rush the quarterback. Now they 259 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: can get after the quarterback. So if we get him 260 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: in passing situations, there's some guys that can get to 261 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: the quarterback. But what we don't have guys. We were 262 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: pretty small front that relies on quickness and speed and 263 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: Malik really it was kind of our only big guy 264 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: inside and so when he was gone, we had rookies 265 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: and a second year guy in there. That's all we had, 266 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: and the teams went to town on us from that perspective, 267 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: So we've got to get better at front. There's no 268 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: doubt on the front seven. But when you added Jalen 269 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: Petrie and what he's done, we only saw there extinctly 270 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: for half a season, but you could see the talent 271 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: is there for sure. Christian Harris at linebacker the cold 272 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: business in week one, but they'll see him in week eighteen, 273 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 1: and he has come a long way and he is 274 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: a dynamic player. Now you add a few players through 275 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: the draft. Now you had a couple one or two 276 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: in free agency, and now the things start to turn around. 277 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: Now this big plays starts stopping. Now you give the 278 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: ball back to your offense a few more times. Now, 279 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: hopefully you've got better quarterback playing. Your offense can start 280 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: doing things, and hopefully at that point you can leave 281 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: two fourteen and one or whatever the season is going 282 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: to be in your rear view mirror and you can 283 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: build this thing right with a foundation. But we're not 284 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: there yet. There are some foundation pieces, Damian Pierced, Jalen Petrie, 285 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: Derek Stingley, Christian Harris, even a guy like Roy Lopez 286 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: in his second year has played a lot better football. 287 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: Those pieces are here. There just aren't enough of them, 288 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: and especially at one key position. That's gotta change going 289 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: into the twenty twenty three season. Now, John, you mentioned 290 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: his name, just a second goal. Jalen Petrie's a rookie 291 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: that's on that defense that has been productive for the team. 292 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: He leads a team in tackles and interceptions. How impressed 293 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: have you been with Jalen? Yeah? I mean, Bill, my goodness, 294 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: he's kind of an old school dude. And this is 295 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: why I think you guys would love Him's kind of 296 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: an old school guy. Um, the way he approaches the game. 297 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: He's so tough and it's funny. He's from Stafford, Texas, 298 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: which is about twenty minutes away from the stadium. So 299 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: when they called him on draft night. When they called 300 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: him on draft night, he's like, you guys want me 301 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: to come over, and they're like your family. But from 302 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: the first day of OTAs, it was clear that guy 303 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: was going to be a starter for us. I mean 304 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: without out, I mean we would talk to Lovey and 305 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: love he would just gush about him, like this guy. 306 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: But about halfway through the year, they moved into free 307 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: safety and that's given him even more opportunity to make plays. 308 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: And I think this is a pretty amazing number going 309 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 1: coming out of the Tennessee game, it was three guys. 310 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: Well then he racked up thirteen tackles, an interception, against Jacksonville. 311 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: He's the only rookie defensive player since nineteen ninety one 312 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: to register one hundred twenty five plus tackles and five 313 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: interceptions in the season. I mean, it's incredible to think 314 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: about it. I mean, but one of those things that's happened. 315 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: You know, he's a he's a quiet yet gets on 316 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: the field, he takes on a different personality. But you 317 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: could tell that he would you defer to the to 318 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: the veterans, and that's changed. He's now that guy in 319 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: the huddle. And I think even to a point where 320 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: you know, our All Pro tackle Larremy tunsl you know, 321 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: Larman didn't say a whole lot. He's always kind of 322 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: funny to talk to you. But he was doing interview 323 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: with some of our guys here in the building and 324 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: he was asked about, you know, what's a dog because 325 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: he was calling everybody a dog at the beginning of 326 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: the year to play. You know, Damian Pierce is a dog. 327 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: And he stopped himself and he goes, you know what, 328 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: you know what my favorite player is Jalen Petrie. And 329 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: I was like, man, you talked about a stamp of 330 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: approval that did because that's what Jaylen Petrie has met now. 331 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: His tackling still needs to improve a little bit, you know, 332 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: a couple of long runs here because he had missed 333 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: a couple of tackles. But what he gives us from 334 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: a leadership standpoint, from production standpoint, from a Ballhawks standpoint, 335 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: he is a different player than he was in week one. 336 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: He's come so far, and I think in OTA's in 337 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, he will be the no doubt leader 338 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: of this defense going forward. I mean, he will be 339 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: the guy that everybody responds to and everybody answers to. 340 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: It's already happening now, but I got a feeling when 341 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: more young guys come in, they're gonna look at number 342 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: five and go, all right, five, what do we do? 343 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: And he's gonna be that guy. And I haven't seen 344 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: anybody really like that since Tyran Matthew Tyrn came in here. 345 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: He took everybody by the nape of the neck and 346 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: was like, I'll show you, and you guys are seeing 347 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: Tyrant each five eight, you know, one hundred and seventy 348 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: five pounds, and nobody had a cross word for that guy. 349 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: Everybody followed his lead, and it's gonna be that same 350 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: way for Jane Petrie. Jalen's a little bigger, both thicker, 351 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: but he's gonna give the same production and due time. 352 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: To me, he reminds me a lot of you know, 353 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: for people that are kind of like what kind of 354 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: players he reminds you of Jesse Bates to the Bengals. 355 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: You know, a ballhawk that could be a really good player. 356 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: That's the player that I comped him to going into 357 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: the draft, and I think he's really uh, he's gotten 358 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: to a point where now as I'm doing my draft 359 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: analysis for twenty twenty three, I'm now comparing the safety 360 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: to Jaalen Petrie. That's how good he said, Well, there 361 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: you go. It's very high praise. Final a couple of 362 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: things with the John Lovey Smith slid over to handle 363 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: the head coaching duties after David Cullen had that position 364 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: last year. How do you grade the job that Lovey as? 365 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: I know that when you look at the record, they're 366 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: gonna be drafting either one or two. But does he 367 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: deserve a little bit of grace due to the roster makeup? 368 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: I think there's there's a lot that goes. You know, 369 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: it's complicated. I mean when a team is you know, 370 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: to what are we now to thirteen and one? I 371 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: think it's easy to go, oh, yeah, the coaching was bad, 372 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: gam was bad. Everyone's bad, bad, bad, bad. But there 373 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: have been so many times where this team that is 374 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: still shorthanded, that hasn't gotten great consistent quarterback play, has 375 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 1: been in a game in the fourth quarter. I mean, 376 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: Denver is a great example of that. We aren't doing. 377 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: We didn't do anything offensively, I mean nothing, and yet 378 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: there's lovey defense keeping us in a ball game and 379 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: we're you know, we're ahead six to three, I think, 380 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: in that game going into the fourth quarter, and I'm like, 381 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: how we haven't moved the ball at all. The only 382 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: thing we've done is Damian Pierce ran through a couple 383 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: of Broncos for a first down. That's all we really did. 384 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: And yet we're in the game of the fourth quarter. 385 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: There's been so many games in the fourth quarter, and 386 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: I think what I've come to realize is that that's 387 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: the difference in this league is that you know, teams 388 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: can kind of go back and forth and you could 389 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: stay in a game. You can get a stop, maybe 390 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: be a turnover, you could do this. But the teams 391 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: that end up having the elite players that understand and 392 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,959 Speaker 1: execute in the final fifteen minute. That's what separates this 393 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: because it's so close. This league is so close. I mean, 394 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: obviously everybody's on scholarship, but it's so close, and so 395 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: you get to the final fifteen minutes and that's when 396 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: you got to finish. Well. You know, a coach can 397 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: be instrumental in that, but you gotta have you got 398 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: to have some of the elite players at one particular 399 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: position in particular to make those plays. And they just 400 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: hadn't been able to until we got to Tennessee and 401 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: made those plays in the fourth quarter when Davis Mills 402 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: stepped up and was not only how he consistent, he 403 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: was exceptional that and we didn't need any exceptional throughout 404 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: the year. We just needed him a key spot to Denver, Chicago, Dallas, 405 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: Kansas City to make those particular plays. And if you 406 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: do that, you're probably looking at a five six win team. 407 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: Now is that good enough? No, But you had another draft, 408 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: the free agent money you've got coming in all of 409 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: a sudden, you can be looking at something in twenty 410 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: twenty three. But the offensive particular took a big step 411 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: back and that could maybe cost Lovey his job. I 412 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: hope it doesn't. I think he's done under the circumstances. 413 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: He has kind of battled through, just like the defense has. 414 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: And I think that love is a I see why 415 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: Lovey was so good all those years in Chicago, and 416 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: I just wish that we could have won more games 417 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: for him such that this isn't a question at the 418 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: end of the year, if you know what I mean, gotcha? Well, 419 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: final thing with you, John, when you when you look 420 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: at this Texans team, in your opinion, what do they 421 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 1: need to do this offseason to be competing with the 422 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: Jags and the Titans in this division over the next 423 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: game full of years. Yeah, I mean, I think it 424 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: obviously starts the quarterback position, but we're not unlike everybody 425 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: in the FC you South not named Jackson, though, I 426 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: think everybody in the division has to examine what they've 427 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: got at that position, for sure. I think the other thing, 428 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 1: we've got to get a little bit bigger and thicker 429 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 1: up front of the defensive front. I think we need 430 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: to find we've we've now gotten better linebacker played, but 431 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: for a long time this season or linebacker play was 432 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: not very good, and we got to solve the interior 433 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: of our offensive line. We had Justin Bridge start the year. 434 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: He played Game one and then he went on NFI 435 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: and he was gone the rest of the year. And 436 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: I don't know that Justin was a top five center 437 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: in the league, and I I don't even think he was 438 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: even the top twenty center in the league. But he 439 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: was the guy that knew everything and that was helpful. 440 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 1: Well that he's out and we've had so we've had 441 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: to go Scott Quisenberry, and Scott's better as a backup, 442 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: if I'm being honest, and Kenny and greenstepped in it 443 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: left guard, but Kenyan missed almost all of training camp. 444 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: Then he got banged up in the Raiders game and 445 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: he really struggled against some of the more stout defensive 446 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: lineman that he saw. So we've got to be better 447 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: on the interior. Got to be better on the interior 448 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 1: on the other side of the ball as well, and 449 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: we've got to get better quarterback play that you know 450 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: Tennessee and Indianapolis. I've got to get going forward as well. 451 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be an interesting offseason for the ANFC 452 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: stout for sure. And I didn't think I would say 453 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: this one year ago that the beacon of consistency and 454 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: the role model DAVEC South will be down to Dubal County. 455 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: But I think Doug Peterson's addition at Trevor Lawrence's rise 456 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: has really made the Jaguars, made everybody look at the 457 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: Jaguars and go, that's how it's done. You know last 458 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: year it was that's not how it changed very quickly 459 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: in this league and for everybody in Navcy South. So 460 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: hopefully we're that team next year that can take those 461 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: strides and make those strides and those things we talked 462 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: about and become that team going forward. It's definitely the 463 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: same conversation we're having here in Indianapolis too with where 464 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: what's wild what twelve months does with one team? But 465 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: definitely Jacksonville has turned around. There you go. John Harris 466 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: a football analyst for the Houston Texans Radio and Texans TV. 467 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: Also sideline reporter for Texans Radio. John, thank you so 468 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: much for the time. Enjoy the game we'll see on Sunday. 469 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: Casey and Bill appreciate thank you for having me. Well. 470 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: As we've mentioned, the season finale is here. It's the 471 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: Colts and the Texans at Lucas Oil Stadium on Sunday 472 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: for Bill Brooks. I'm Casey Valley. Enjoy the game and 473 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: go Colts.