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Speaker 1: Welcome back to More to It to show that takes

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into the biggest stories in sports, entertainment,

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Speaker 1: and culture. Start with headline news and then journey to

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Speaker 1: deeper conversations, always finding those life lessons that are presented

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Speaker 1: in every single story. I'm your host for ourselves whilely

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Speaker 1: that dude, what's up with that? Dude? Man, I'm back

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Speaker 1: at the crib. As y'all can see, as y'all can hear,

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Speaker 1: y'all can hear it in my voice, I'm feeling good today.

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Speaker 1: Not feeling great though. Let me tell you for real,

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Speaker 1: this trip was amazing. Man. It was so good that

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Speaker 1: it was one of those few trips that I actually

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Speaker 1: didn't want to leave. And that's rare for me because

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Speaker 1: I actually don't want to go in the first place.

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Speaker 1: So it's like when I don't want to leave. I

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Speaker 1: had a ball whoa great resort. More than that, just

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Speaker 1: great times. Man. Ran into Jimmy Jackson, you know, JJ,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what else to say about that dude,

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Speaker 1: the most eligible bachelor. I don't know if he's single

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Speaker 1: or not, but I see him, I'd be like, damn.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Jackson was the man on and off court for real.

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Speaker 1: So saw my boy, saw Jesse armstead Man beasts New

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Speaker 1: York Giants. He was out there chilling with the family.

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Speaker 1: Everybody was hanging. But it feels good to be home,

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Speaker 1: my bed, my toothbush. Yeah, I took a toothbrush there,

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Speaker 1: but it's the one like you can clean the tires

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Speaker 1: with everything I take on the road. Man, it's just

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Speaker 1: to get back home. It ain't nothing that is at

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Speaker 1: So man, I gotta get that travel bug because my

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Speaker 1: wife has it to the fullest degree, and if I

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Speaker 1: So let me get some of that travel bug. Y'all

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Speaker 1: got that. I just hate. I hate the process, maybe

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Speaker 1: because just PTSD from playing days. You know, you're twenty

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Speaker 1: four years old, you playing in the city. I'm in Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: I'm in San Diego, got my nice pad, you know,

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Speaker 1: they just say, oh yeah, it about one o'clock. Just

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Speaker 1: We're gonna play a game. It's gonna hurt. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: come back a little sore, little blood and be fine.

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Speaker 1: See you monday. I had to do that for ten years,

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Speaker 1: and that's no complaining. It's just anything that's forced makes

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Speaker 1: you not necessarily appreciated for what it is. And look,

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Speaker 1: for eight nine weeks of the year, you got forced

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Speaker 1: to go somewhere, and some of those places weren't worth going,

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Speaker 1: whether the team was that good or it's Green Bay, dog,

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Speaker 1: what are you doing out here? It's cold out tied.

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Speaker 1: They don't even want to be out here, let alone us.

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Speaker 1: But it was a great trip, but it didn't end well.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you this. And man, this is sad,

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Speaker 1: all right. So we getting off the airplane, and everybody's

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Speaker 1: getting off the airplane. Everybody knows the rules, right, all right.

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Speaker 1: You start on the right side, you start on the

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Speaker 1: left side. Who cares what side we start, but that

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Speaker 1: rod goes first. So roll one, then row two right left,

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Speaker 1: Roll three right left. Well, let's just say somebody from

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Speaker 1: row thirty something decided to bum rush, now not knowing

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Speaker 1: the reason. It was a man holding his daughter and

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Speaker 1: he's running to the front and he gets stopped because

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Speaker 1: everybody else jumped up. Thirty rolls in front of him

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Speaker 1: like yo, And he stopped right in front of us,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like looking at him, like, all right, dog,

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Speaker 1: you're doing a whole lot, but you got your baby

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Speaker 1: I just heard now he stopped in front of me,

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Speaker 1: their security guard. At least that's the way it looked, right,

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Speaker 1: That's how it looked. He didn't know what it looked like.

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Speaker 1: If he was just trying to get off that plane

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Speaker 1: The first thing I hear is I would never bump you, homie,

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Speaker 1: But I've learned in these situations growing up post traumatic

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Speaker 1: You know what that meant. And then he starts saying

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Speaker 1: He don't know who we are. And I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh damn, I said, I don't know who y'all are either,

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Speaker 1: but I know who y'all are. I know what's about

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Speaker 1: I went from at first neutral to totally against the

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Speaker 1: I guess your wife, baby mama, whoever the hell and kids,

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Speaker 1: come on, y'all do better, and all this time, I'm

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Speaker 1: just like, my kids are oblivious to it. Thankfully they

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Speaker 1: words that were leaking, and just the energy and just

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Speaker 1: why tough dog Like we both sitting here in the

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Speaker 1: sure somebody was trying to film it, and it was

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Speaker 1: so funny. This lady, this older lady, was sitting there

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Speaker 1: was probably the saddest part. That nobody respected the environment,

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Speaker 1: the surroundings, the fact that there were itdy biddies right

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Speaker 1: Ignorant to the fullest, All right, y'all, speaking of ignorant

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Speaker 1: Crag Carton. They call it a very strange gamble. All right,

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Speaker 1: And I'm going to source and read this one a

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Speaker 1: lot of the facts of this story first and set

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Speaker 1: the table because frankly, I don't know a ton about him,

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Speaker 1: WNBA was on, so I watched that, and y'all know me,

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Speaker 1: let me stop. So. When Craig Carton was sentenced to

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Speaker 1: prison for orchestrating the fraudulent multimillion dollar ticket resell scheme,

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Speaker 1: do y'all hear that that was one sentence. The judge

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Speaker 1: and his reputation was lost. Well, Craig Carton, you have

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Speaker 1: and indeed descended into a hell of your own making.

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Speaker 1: That's what the judge said. Wow, a hell of y'all

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Speaker 1: own making. Talk about it, and everything you spent a

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Speaker 1: lifetime of building up is gone. That's what the judge said.

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Speaker 1: But you're not the ultimate judge. That will be our guide,

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Speaker 1: that will be the universe. So let's just say, Judge

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Speaker 1: Colleen McMahon may have been a little wrong. Because while

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Speaker 1: Carton was sentenced at three and a half years behind

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Speaker 1: serving a little over a year. I guess he was

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Speaker 1: on good behavior. Right. Roughly four months later, he was

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Speaker 1: didn't destroy his career. Instead, it barely derailed it. Interesting,

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Speaker 1: and now he's received his biggest professional break yet, a

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Speaker 1: like so. Carton, who launched his own FS one show

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Speaker 1: TV hosts less time than a full presidential term. That's

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Speaker 1: what they say. This is the opposite of cancel culture. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we know, Carton's resurrection is amazing. Let's stop down right here. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So full time means what no more radio committed fully

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Speaker 1: talk through this all right. So Fox, the national network

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Speaker 1: fans to fuel his gambling addiction. Back in twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 1: Carton resigned from w FAN morning duties after being arrested

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Speaker 1: damn by the FBI on charges that he ran a

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Speaker 1: pose like skiing. Carton and his partner solicited investments from victims,

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Speaker 1: including the Manhattan Hedge Fund, and claimed they were using

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Speaker 1: fund to get some damn Beyonce tickets. Well they do

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Speaker 1: cost a grip. Beyonce tickets costs twish, but still, damn

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Speaker 1: I had fun, except they weren't going to the concerts.

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Speaker 1: Carton was using that money to pay off his ever

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Speaker 1: increasing gambling debt. Making sense, I know a lot of

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Speaker 1: y'all don't know all this. Hope. I hope y'all don't,

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Speaker 1: because I didn't. In the HBO documentary, he said he

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Speaker 1: pay nearly five million in restitution. Yeah, where's my restitution?

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Speaker 1: Carton is the face of the sportsbook Fan Duel's efforts

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Speaker 1: to combat problem gambling and host a Saturday show on

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Speaker 1: on people in his gambling efforts. And then it's now

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Speaker 1: getting paid from two companies to talk about this gambling problem. Oh,

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Speaker 1: to deter you from having a gambling problem, all right.

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Speaker 1: So he's the face of all of those topics, all

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Speaker 1: of those things, with all of those entities, And it

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Speaker 1: didn't take long for him to regain his form his swag.

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Speaker 1: When he returned to Wfan in the fall of twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: Carton and Evan Roberts demolished ESPN's michaelkay I heard of

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Speaker 1: him in the afternoon ratings, nearly tripling him in the

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Speaker 1: last book. Damn, Carton put a stop to the legacy

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Speaker 1: station's post Francesca faltering. Ah. Now I see that in

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Speaker 1: New York local radio, which is not local. That sucker

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Speaker 1: to c W fans parent company puts so hard to

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Speaker 1: repair Carton. Ah, he's a cash cow. But Fox's fascination

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Speaker 1: It's harder to fathom. Carton has never proved he can

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Speaker 1: national level. Okay, So, in fact, the Carton Show has

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Speaker 1: pause right now. He made Crushgroove. Could he do anything

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00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 1: wrong in this world? Maybe? So shaded her in a

422
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 1: series of career the posts he did. They shared two

423
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 1: daughters mean and aoki and the fat farm founder was

424
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: seemingly set off the day prior when meing twenty three,

425
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 1: which kimor who's forty eight a happy Father's Day? Oh

426
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 1: oh passive aggressive? Somebody upset man. That hurts as a pop,

427
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,640
Speaker 1: as a mom, whoever you are, if they go there,

428
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: if it's happy Mother's Day, and then my kids start

429
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 1: texting me thank you daddy, Happy Mother's Day. First of all,

430
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, y'all dumb now. Then second thing, I'll

431
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 1: be like, uh, that ain't right. Like the adult in

432
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 1: the room, I wouldn't even accept that as a compliment.

433
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 1: I'd be like, y'all better stop disrespecting and put some

434
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 1: respect on yo mama. All right, so we know. Russell

435
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: Simmons sixty five shared an image that read stopped telling

436
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: fathers they should have fought harder to see their children

437
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: and start asking mothers while we had to fight at all.

438
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 1: Woo whoa now UPHI thirty thousand feet that statement lands.

439
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: That statement drop, though, But it's not particular that every

440
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: situation that's not generalized. But in general, man, the system

441
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: is rigged and the system is telling mamas y'all got it.

442
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: The only way you're gonna take a kid from their

443
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: mama is if she's a drug at it or she

444
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 1: I mean not even neglectful, like she had to just

445
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 1: be absent. Not neglect. Neglect is like you're checking in,

446
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 1: but you're not checking in enough. Neglect won't do it.

447
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 1: Absence like mama just left for a few days or something,

448
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 1: and you got to prove something like that or be

449
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,120
Speaker 1: a drug at it. Other than that, you ain't taking

450
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: no kid from the mama. Seriously, man. I always say

451
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: it's the difference between milk and sperm. Man. As much

452
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 1: as sperm gives life, milks and stains it, damn it,

453
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 1: and them kids be on the milk, be on the

454
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 1: tit forever. So Ah, tough fight brothers, tough fight fathers.

455
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: So the next post read the father you have that

456
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 1: the perfect father for the evolution of your soul and

457
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: lessons that you needed to learn in this lifetime. Spiritual

458
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: on them. Huh. It's hard to argue with the esoteric.

459
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: So he's big on them all right. So this led

460
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: Kamora on Aoki to address his shade and the Less

461
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 1: Stress on Instagram Live. The latter shared screenshots from a

462
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: conversation between her and her father where he claimed, oh

463
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 1: my goodness, Kamora has stolen his money and called her

464
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: a piece of shit. All right, now, I'm getting too deep,

465
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: all right. So we also read that the Harvard graduate

466
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 1: recently said I've had enough. I've always had it. I

467
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 1: was always a daddy's girl. You can see that in

468
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: any picture. But he's been awful to me for years.

469
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: And that's just the truth. It's like talking to a

470
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: cruel child or something. And no, he does not support

471
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: me financially. You had me and to the end, like

472
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: it's weird, like people become people become the lyrics to

473
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: what they think others are singing. Like everybody looks at

474
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: Russell Simmons and looks at that situation, be like, Okay,

475
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: the love language got to be financial as well, you

476
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: feel me, And that's not necessarily the case, but she

477
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: felt the need to talk about the love or the

478
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 1: lack of love she's getting from her father and bring

479
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 1: it to the finances as well. I guess I've never

480
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: been in that predicament, so I guess it's okay. I

481
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: hate it, though, I hate that you're talking about how

482
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: your father's treating you and we got to go to

483
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: the money. You just graduated from Harvard. Let's just say

484
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: he doesn't owe you to take care of you at

485
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: this point. But every family's different, different strokes for different folks.

486
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: So let's talk about Aoki does believe her father's experiencing

487
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 1: some sort of mental issue. That's not for you to

488
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: diagnose Aoki, But okay or is it right? She know

489
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: her daddy, but at the same time, she's like, no,

490
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: daddy's over here, Tripp. She also shared a screen recording

491
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 1: of a FaceTime call with Russell where he was visibly

492
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: yelling and really as she was very emotional. Man, they

493
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: on a campaign right now. Now. I'm not saying that

494
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: none of it's justified, but damn ah, if you really

495
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: care about Papa, Papa got a mental illness. Papa ain't

496
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: taking care of you, no love, he ain't taking care

497
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: of you financially. Why do you want us to join

498
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: that party against him? Kind of reminds me of when

499
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: we saw a little Romeo going against Master p. It's

500
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 1: like y'all supposed to work. Now. Some things is just

501
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: not social media right. Some things is not to be

502
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: discussed for those in the public, like you are really

503
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: trying to get us on your side. We ain't gonna

504
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: make Russell Simmons act better than you. We ain't gonna

505
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: make your daddy love you more. You love your daddy more.

506
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: So why are we involved all of my kids? Ever? Boy?

507
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: That's the podcast y'all need to listen to. If my

508
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: kids ever, that's what I'm gonna call it. Boy, It's

509
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: gonna be long and short. During Kamora's lives, she claimed

510
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 1: that Russell cut off Ming and Aoki before they were

511
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: set to graduate. This piggyback from Aoki's allegation that he

512
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: intentionally revoked access to her debit card while she was overseas,

513
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: leaving her stranded. Mm okaying, the Baby Fat owner mentioned

514
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: that she been carrying financially over the past ten years,

515
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: carrying Russell when it came to keeping his companies afloat.

516
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: She also claimed that she has countless receipts to prove

517
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 1: that Russell has been putting up a facade that he

518
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: is on good terms with her and their children, which

519
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: Kamora says, it's far from the truth. Okay, I got

520
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: to give them some credit for something, because so far

521
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: I ain't got nothing. What the hell like you stranded

522
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: in Europe because daddy didn't take care of you. You

523
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: got a mama, You got yourself. Let me stop. In

524
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,239
Speaker 1: separate posts shared to her stories sound like a lot

525
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: of victim in here to retire supermodel row. I'm so

526
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: sorry they have to do this, but this man has

527
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: been threatening my kids' lives. Okay, now we're talking. Now,

528
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm hearing so much more. Now we

529
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: won't be bullied, threatened, or afraid. There you go, adding

530
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: the same abusive ish. This is how you maneuver with

531
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: the world and women all around you. Your threats and

532
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: lives and intimidation maneuvers and tactics are sad. Stop it.

533
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: Please your own flesh and blood. Enough is enough now.

534
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: Eighteen women have accused Russell of sexual misconduct, but he

535
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: insists he's innocent. Aoki also mentioned that Russell has even

536
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: sent men to intimidate me and get her apartment in

537
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: the middle of the night, and says he was drastically

538
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: different before the accusations came to like, oh, now we

539
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: get into a story. Prior to his media issues, he

540
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: was really the best dad ever and a great co parent.

541
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: He and my mom were best friends, she wrote, We

542
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: all defended him against anything, and then he suddenly turned

543
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: on anyone who would let him lash out. So really

544
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: just terrifying change to watch. Russell sued come owing her

545
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: now ex husband, Tim Lessner in March twenty twenty one.

546
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: He insinuated they tried to fraudulently transfer nearly four million

547
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: dollars of his shares and celsius. Damn. Russell had four

548
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: million in celsius he eaten to help pay for listeners

549
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: bail and legal fees stemming from his twenty eighteen money

550
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: launder in case. They denied the claim and called it

551
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: extoorce of harassment. All right, and we all know that

552
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: Kamor and Russell met while she was in high school

553
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: or even earlier. I mean, hey, yeah, back then. They

554
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: wed in nineteen ninety eight and divorce in two thousand

555
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: and nine. All right, Other than him making crush groove,

556
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: I can't defend them fully. Let me talk through this.

557
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: Let's go to this story in HD because this hurts

558
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: in so many ways. Hypothetical detective right here, this sounds

559
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: like the classic definition of anger from Russell. If all

560
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: of this is true, this is anger. Anger is contempt

561
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: for your reality. Anger is being annoyed with your reality.

562
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: Anger is not accepting your reality. So maybe Russell Simmons,

563
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: the Great Russell Simmons death Jam, Yes we know death

564
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: Comedy Jam. Yes we know Crushgroove again, Yes we know

565
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: that guy, all of a sudden is beyond angry at

566
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: the reality he has to live in. Imagine all of

567
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: that equity he built up, and he built it up

568
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: at a time when nobody else was building it. Russell

569
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: Simmons was Russell Simmons before we even knew what a

570
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: Russell Simmons could be. Who else go? I mean, I

571
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: mean Quincy Jones over there or something. But Chrissy Jones

572
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: was doing the art form that they said would last.

573
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: Rap wasn't supposed to laugh you imagine investing your whole

574
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: being is something that they say wouldn't last, And not

575
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: only did it last, you made it the number one

576
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: art form in our world of music, the number one genre.

577
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: And you were the dude, you were the king. You

578
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: had little babies, You had little puffies come out of

579
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: you in shugs, babies like real babies, like baby oh man, unreal.

580
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: And now this imagine that urn, Imagine that turn left,

581
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: turn on the freeway, fout into the center divider. Why,

582
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: because you get it. Q's the q's, the q's, the q's,

583
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: the q's, the q's. And even if you're innocent, even

584
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: if you're never jailed for it, your reputation is sullied.

585
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: Your reputation is stained. Full life, like mac ten said,

586
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: full life gone. Every time you see Russell Simmons, no

587
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: matter yoga. I saw him maybe a couple months ago

588
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: some party, and it's just like, I mean, it can't

589
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: leave your head. It's just it is what it is,

590
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: I mean, and it's in his head. I'm certain. I'm certain.

591
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: So let's just say that is a classic anger. Just

592
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: can't stand your reality. Even though you still may have

593
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,719
Speaker 1: five dollars, even though you're still super famous, even though

594
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: you still have access, you just looking at everybody that

595
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: looks at you like they looking at you like you're

596
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: a predator. Real talk, man, Ain't no way out of

597
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: that unless you just don't give it. Damn. You gotta

598
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: be cut different. Some people don't give it, damn, and

599
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: some people do. You know, just simple I'm gonna put

600
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: no names to that, because nobody wants those false accusations

601
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: or real accusations, I don't know, but you're gonna have

602
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: to cut yourself off into that connection to the social

603
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: community because they're great in you. And if you think

604
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: you're always a failing student, we'll guess what your test

605
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: gonna look like. F's all right, so full disclosure. Let

606
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: me just get this out too. Also, I know the family.

607
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: I don't know Russell that well. I mean I've seen

608
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: him and said hi and he said hi back and

609
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: whatever that is. But comorrow, Yes, their son is an

610
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: amazing little dude. I love this little dude. I'm not

611
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: gonna put his name out there in the context of

612
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: this story, but he's on my back to back to time, Yes,

613
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: Championship flag football team. Little man's a beast too, super athletic, tall, lean, move,

614
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: a lot of talent in there. He's fast, gentle, gentle, now,

615
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: super kind, mannerable, all that. All that. Here's one thing, though,

616
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: got a shell, and I'm gonna bring it out of

617
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: I'm getting that turtle out that ship. He's in the shell.

618
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: Like you can see, his confidence isn't exactly where it belongs.

619
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: But every kid has their issue, so I'm like his

620
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: issue is, Hey, believe it before you achieve it, Like,

621
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: just believe it already, dall you fast, you good go.

622
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: He waits till he does it, and then he's like

623
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: you can just see him light up like, oh my god,

624
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: I did it. I'm like, oh, you could do it

625
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: every time you got the gifts. Don't get it twisted. Yeah.

626
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping that none of this is bleeding over

627
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: into the entire family. But that was just a line

628
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: I just read and said it is. You know, it

629
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: has to like you can't you can't beef at the top.

630
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: The most important relationship in the family is not parent

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Speaker 1: to kid. It's not mama the daughter's mama the son.

632
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Speaker 1: It's not father the daughter father of the sons. It's

633
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Speaker 1: mama to father because that's where the kids learn love.

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00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: You always catch your kids just peeking at you. They

635
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: just looking. That's how they learned, because that's how I learned.

636
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: I remember I got vivid images of my dad in

637
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: the car and me just in the backseat looking at

638
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: him diagonally like is he nice? Is he happy? Is

639
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: she looking at the road? I'm just looking at the car,

640
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: like what daddy up to? And that's how you learn

641
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: that's how you get wired. And then it's whoa talking

642
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: about trying to rewire somebody hard as hell, so you know,

643
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 1: support to this family, but y'all, we can't help, y'all.

644
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: I mean, you're giving me stuff to talk about, so

645
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: I could talk about the intersection of life and sports

646
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: and all the things I like to do in terms

647
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: of lessons and hopefully you know I dropped the gym

648
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: for you guys. But in all seriousness, some stories I

649
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 1: don't even need to report on, not because I won't

650
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: report them because I don't need to hear about it.

651
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 1: Y'all got to fix that, man, Come on, y'all pull

652
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: it together, all right? Speaking of somebody who need to

653
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: pull it together, and let me just say they ain't.

654
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: Ex porn star Mariah Mills threatens to leak allege Zion

655
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Speaker 1: Williamson's sex tapes soon as the trade rumors were heating up.

656
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 1: And then here's an update on that because she can't

657
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: stop Thurston. Mariah Mills's Twitter accounts suspended after Zion willing

658
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: some sex tape threats. Wow, she lost her Twitter, cunt,

659
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: You lost her Twitter account under Elon Musk No has

660
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 1: doing too much? You already know that. Now here's another update.

661
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: Mariah Mills gets Zion's name tattooed on her face, which

662
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: was a fake. Gotta be a fake. I ain't see

663
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: no red swelling or nothing. I ain't man. I got

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Speaker 1: two tattoos, ugly as hell to there's one yuck. Here's

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00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: another one yuck, and they hurt. That was my arm.

666
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: You talking about your face, your cheek? Girl? Stuff? All right,

667
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: So let's get through this story so we have some

668
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 1: fun and talk some gems. Mariah Mills' prolonged Scorched Earth

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00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: campaign on Twitter directed at Zion Williamson. It's over ov

670
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 1: a like Drake, at least for the time being, because

671
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: Mills and the only fans, model and former adult film

672
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: star who was jilted when Williamson and his girlfriend Akima

673
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,959
Speaker 1: the b through a gender not the Be, not ab

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Speaker 1: the b Re Mirya keilnd theb Oh God, I love

675
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: that movie. Akima threw a gender revealed party earlier this month,

676
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: had her Twitter account suspended on Tuesday. Yes you did, Mariah,

677
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: Me and Mariah. Twitter has not disclosed the reason Mills's

678
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: account was suspended, other than for unspecified violation of the

679
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: platform's rules, but it is presumable that the decision was

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00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: made after she threatened to leak a sex tape. God

681
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: dang it involving Williamson. I'm glad that Twitter does have rules,

682
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 1: because everything has rules. There's no such thing as freedom

683
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: of speech. Fully like, you ain't got full freedom, Like

684
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: you can't roam the whole planet. You can go between

685
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: these borders, but you can't roam the whole planet in speech.

686
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: So the NBA, this is what she says, NBA, I

687
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 1: have sex tapes. Let me say it in her verse, NBA,

688
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: I have sex tapes of me and Zion Wimson and

689
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: he also has them on his trap phone. Oh god,

690
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: she trade him now? He doesn't deserve to be in

691
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: New Orleans sex tapes dropping soon? Not thank Oh God?

692
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: What is wrong with hurt? Trade him now? He trade

693
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: them so he can't. So he hurts you and you

694
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: got sex tapes like we ain't gonna see him and

695
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: other teams and other cities and other parts of the

696
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: country and see them. But get them out of New Orleans.

697
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: I don't want them in New Orleans. I want them

698
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: in Charlotte. What the hell? Her Instagram account has also

699
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: been set to private. Ooh, I wonder if they did

700
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 1: that or she did that. They might be flooding or man.

701
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: Ain't nothing like when you're in a firestorm. I don't

702
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: know if y'all ever been in the firestorm. I've been

703
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: in there before. I ain't shut nothing down. All I'm

704
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: gonna do is mute you at the most, because I'm

705
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: like dog, I can't see all of this is gangster

706
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: them these shots. I can't duck all them. I ain't

707
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: Neo and the Matrix dunking all these shots. But it's hilarious,

708
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: like you'd be like, damn motherfuckers hate me seriously. So

709
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: Mills is weeks long. Tirade began earlier in June, after

710
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 1: Keema and Williamson announced that they were respecting the baby

711
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: girl this November. So the tweets continue to be graphic, profane, silly, ignorant, thirsty.

712
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: She tweets about them daily and excessively. Yes, she does

713
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: also share screenshots and messages allegedly from Williamson. This is

714
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: it's the worst, implying that he had offered to fund

715
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: her move to New Orleans. I mean, all right, he offered.

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00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: He didn't come through on the offer. Partly because you

717
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: probably just wolf. If you would have just shut up

718
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: and say, hey, Zon, hey man, I see you about

719
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: to have that baby over there. Can I have my

720
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: apartment over there too? Still, maybe he still would have

721
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: connected it hooked you up, but damn you went scorts

722
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: earth full. Eventually, Mills worked out the math of the

723
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: timeline to conclude that the apparent conception occurred surely after

724
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day while she was hold up, hold up they

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00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: hold up at home following complications from butt reduction surgery. Man,

726
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: what is going on with this world? We got we

727
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: got cyborgxiut here. She's gone to far Limps to try

728
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: to get Zion's attention. She literally, no, she got his attention.

729
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: She just ain't gonna get him to respond, because to

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00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: ignore is to pay attention, y'all. That's a whilism. I'm

731
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: gonna going through that one a little bit later another day.

732
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 1: To ignore us to pay attention. Oh, she got his attention,

733
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: but he gonna ignore her. He ain't responded. She literally

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00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: appears to have gotten his name tattoo on her face.

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00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith's reaction was hilarious. He said, my goodness,

736
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: why why I didn't Mariah Mills tattoo Zion's name on

737
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: her face. She either had a damn good time with

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00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: him or it's just insanely desperate for retention. My god,

739
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: man tripping, tripping. Ooh, this is ooh, ooh, this is

740
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: a dude's worst nightmare. Girls too, but girls used to it.

741
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: Dude stalkers, dudes of stalk, Dudes a stalk and it's normal,

742
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: Like why you follow me around the grocery store? Oh oh,

743
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: I was just looking for peanut butter, Like that's normal

744
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: for a girl. I ain't normal for a dude. This

745
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: curl flipping it on him. This is sad. When a

746
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: soft porn star sees you get a stripper pregnant, she

747
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: loses her mind. That's what this story is about me.

748
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: Let me break this down. Let me give y'all some love. Okay,

749
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 1: So you're a soft porn star whatever, OnlyFans is, whatever

750
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: you want to call it. I ain't this nobody. I'm

751
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: just saying, we got to call her something. And then

752
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: you see that you're her friend, boo side piece whatever,

753
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: got a stripper pregnant? Cash rules everything around me? Creamed

754
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: it right? You see the receipts you see that he

755
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: got a stripper pregnant, and you lose your mind because

756
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: you're thinking you now had a better chance at Zion

757
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: and his pot of gold. Then you realized before let

758
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: me give it to you like this. She didn't realize

759
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: it in the moment because Zion gained her. So now

760
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: she's hot one hundred. Let's just say this, let's play

761
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: this out all right. It's a sick play because basically,

762
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: if she were a good girl, probably would have stayed

763
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: comfortably in her place as the side piece, because she like, oh,

764
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: he got his family over there, and I don't want

765
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: all that smoke. I don't want all that noise. Look,

766
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: Zion looks out for me. Girl. His per diem is

767
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: good for me. His per diem is my life savings.

768
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: So I'm not tripping if she were a good girl.

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00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 1: But when it's a stripper and you are a soft

770
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: porn girl, now y'all a little too close for comfort,

771
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: and you like, wait a minute, he coming at me like,

772
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 1: I can't really let everybody know about us one because

773
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: I got my you know, my life, my girl, my ball.

774
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: But two and you know what you do that ain't

775
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: good for the brand. And then he she find out

776
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: not only do you do it, you did it with

777
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: a stripper and got her pregnant. We then why the

778
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: hell you been telling me to just chill out? What?

779
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: Too close right? Too much to handle, too close to paradise,

780
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: to be shocking up on the low, hiding away when

781
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: you could have been out in the public too, if

782
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: you got a stripper doing gender reveals having your baby

783
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: while you got me hiding away in the ConA y'all

784
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: catching this? So basically, she got a lotto ticket, like

785
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: one of those lotto tickets that got five winning numbers.

786
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 1: You ever seen those people get. They get a few

787
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars, a few tens of thousand dollars, but

788
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: they don't get no mega millions. They don't get no

789
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: nine hundred and thirty eight million. You got a lot

790
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: of ticket with five I win in numbers, and they

791
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 1: wouldn't let you scratch the sixth one to see if

792
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 1: they you could have won it. All. That's how she feels,

793
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: That's how you would feel. That's how she feeling, y'all.

794
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: She like, Oh Zion hit me back, Oh Zion came through.

795
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: Oh he texted me, Oh girl, he filming us doing it.

796
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 1: Oh girl, he let me film us do it. Oh girl,

797
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 1: here's the fifth number. Oh girl, he said it's all good.

798
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: He got me, he moving me out there. Okay, I'm

799
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 1: about to scratch the sixth one. All of a sudden,

800
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: you know the penny. I always use a penny. I

801
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: use a penny if I could find a penny. Now

802
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: whe're pennies at get a penny. And Zion didn't let

803
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: her get the sixth one. He didn't let her know

804
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: if she could win it all. And then she finds

805
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: out she could have won it all over there booing

806
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 1: up and getting strippers pregnant. That's how she's said. Crazy story.

807
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 1: So whoa, this is the gift that keeps on giving

808
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: of ignorance. I wish, oh, I wish they shut all

809
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: her platforms down, not forever, just until she or just

810
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: just find some kind AI technology Colton. Whenever she writes

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00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: something about Zion and can't get Nope, can't press in.

812
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: Say whatever you want, say that it's a beautiful day,

813
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: Say a girl, look at my butt, Say whatever you want.

814
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: Fellas nine ninety nine, come on, log in whatever. But

815
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: when it's got Zion in, it can't go That's the

816
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: only thing I think should happen right here. Man. She

817
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: will not be silenced though, right now. Let's talk about that.

818
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: Y'all think she should have been suspended from Twitter? Y'all

819
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: think that that was actually the right call? Does her

820
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: behavior concern you? I shouldn't even ask that question? How

821
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: much does her behavior concerned? All? Right? She crazy? Like

822
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: for real? She cracks. Oh, this is a nightmare. Oh

823
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: when I was in them streets. Oh lord, oh man,

824
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: I don't miss some crazies too, but this is next level. Man,

825
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: Poor Zion. He gonna have to wear this forever too,

826
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: like she's gonna have to wear that face tattoo. All

827
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: all right, y'all, that'll do it. For more to it,

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Speaker 1: check the show notes for all the information on our

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00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: topics today today. Want to keep the conversation, go on,

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00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 1: let's talk find me on all socials at Marcel's Wiley

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Speaker 1: More Too is a production of Dan Patrick Production That

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Speaker 1: Dude Entertainment and Workhouse Media. Show is executive produced by

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Speaker 1: more coming from, more to it. Talk to y'all HELLI soon.