WEBVTT - Friendship After 40 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:03.160 I ain't got no friends unless their last name is Ellis. 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:06.120 That's a good one. 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:10.800 He talking about me, y'all, dead Ass. 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:13.240 I never seen him spend that much time with somebody 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:14.160 that he liked like that. 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:18.800 So consider yourself an anomaly family baby. 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:23.720 At this point, over forty, I have not no problem 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:28.640 letting anything go, and that is definitely friends included. Wow. 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:33.920 It all started with real talk, unfiltered, honest and straight 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:35.960 from the heart. Since then, we've gone on to become 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:39.440 Webby Award winning podcasters in New York Times bestselling authors. 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:42.000 Dead Ass was more than a podcast for us. It 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:45.400 was about our growth, a place where we could be vulnerable. 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:48.320 Be raw, or but most apportly be us. 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:51.279 But as we know, life keeps evolving and so do we, 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:55.800 and through it all, one thing has never changed. This 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:59.400 is ever after, because we got a lot to talk about. 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:02.680 Story time. 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:09.679 Oh my gosh, I'm gonna take this back to college. 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:14.120 College. Okay, it's getting farther and farther away for us. 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:14.720 You know, they're right. 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:21.720 I had a friend who he and I were able 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:25.880 to rekindle our friendship. But at the time I was 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:30.640 twenty two and I had just gotten into the NFL 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:32.640 and it was me and my friends. 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:33.200 It was four of us. 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:34.880 We all went to the NFL at the same time 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:39.399 Super Bowl was coming up. One of the guys, who 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:41.160 I considered the friend, decided to have a super Bowl 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:45.480 party and I wasn't invited. Didn't know why, but the 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:47.920 other friends like, yo, why don't you call him? And 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:50.040 that's why he wasn't invited. So I called him and 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:52.200 he was just like, yeah, I just really don't fuck 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:56.320 with you like that. And I was like, a word, 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:58.920 since when? Because I remember used to come to my 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.320 apartment your food. I remember when my wife used to cook. 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:04.040 You used to come by, Like when did this happen? 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:05.480 Like at what point did you stop. 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:05.840 Fucking with me? 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:10.519 And he was just like, well, over the time, you 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:12.760 used to say things and do things that I didn't 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:16.280 think was funny. So now that we're no longer in 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:20.640 the same vicinity, we're no longer friends like that, so 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:22.280 I don't have to invite you to my space. 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:26.280 So I said, cool, like I get it. 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:31.519 And we grew apart, and I realized in that moment, 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:36.959 like it is okay to grow from people, right, rather 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:39.160 than being upset about it and be like what's wrong 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:42.560 with me? I was like, oh, all right, well we're 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:44.320 not in the same space no more. We don't have 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:45.800 to be in the same space because we were on 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:48.480 the same team, but now we live in different states, 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:49.600 we're on different teams. 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:52.160 It's okay for us to not be friends. 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:56.079 And over the last fifteen years us not being friends 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:59.400 ended up with us actually getting closer and becoming friends 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:03.120 older and hates. So what it taught me was just 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:05.079 because you are friends with someone during that time, don't 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:06.320 mean you have to stay with them forever. 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:07.480 I love that. 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.639 And you never at any point questioned at what point 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:12.320 you became unfuck withable. 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:16.640 To be honest, it wasn't. It wasn't like my decision. 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:18.639 He made that decision, and I personally didn't care. 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:19.600 And you didn't take it personally. 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:21.000 No, I didn't take a personal If you don't fuck 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:22.239 with me no more than then you don't fuck with me. 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:22.880 I don't fuck with you. 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:24.880 Hey, I can appreciate the honesty. 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:26.160 Exactly, but I didn't. 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:30.639 I didn't take it any personal, but kind of realized like, oh, shoot, 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:32.320 like you don't have to stay friends. 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:35.880 With people, all right? Karaoke time. Karaoke time, So if 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:37.440 we're talking about letting go of friendships, you know, the 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:38.240 first thing that came. 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:41.040 To mind was the Frozen song, which one let it. 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:44.880 Go, Let it Go, Yeah, let me tell you how 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:47.000 stupid she is. I came up with a whole song 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:48.600 that I was going to sing, and and she jumping 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:52.160 here and singing that. But after hearing my song, I mean, 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:54.080 my story, I do like that song. 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:56.760 I mean at this point, yeah, I mean, we haven't 0:03:56.800 --> 0:04:00.240 listened to that song much. We don't have you that 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:01.840 want to listen to it. And our boys. I took 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:04.560 them to Disney on Ice one time, not knowing that 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:08.119 primarily it's around the Disney princesses, and they literally looked 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:11.120 at me. I had, like, at the time, three sets 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:14.360 of eyes piercing through the side of my head, like why. 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:14.680 Are we here? 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:17.159 Because you had your son's there? 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:18.599 Yeah, and everybody, How. 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:20.440 Did I miss the memo that Disney on Ice is 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:23.440 primarily about the princesses. But I mean that there's a 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:25.279 song that kind of resonates I think. 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:28.000 Through life it does, and the song I was going 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:29.680 to choose, We'll go for it. 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:34.120 Friends. How many of us have them? 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:40.320 Friend period ones you can depend on many friends. 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:42.920 That was my song and actually went well with this. 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:45.680 It worked well together. It's a perfect marriage. I love 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:46.880 that who sings that song again? 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:47.880 I forget which one? 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:48.239 Friends? 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:50.920 Oh, that song is from like the seventies to eighties. 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:54.000 You'll be knowing my dad used to sing that song 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:58.600 back in the day. Remember when rat was hit. It 0:04:58.680 --> 0:04:59.800 was around that time. I don't know who? 0:04:59.839 --> 0:05:00.840 Say from driving? 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:06.479 Is it Josh? What's the name of that ra who's 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:06.800 saying that? 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:07.880 It's who? DEI? 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:09.120 Who? There? 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:09.360 You go? 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:10.880 Okay? 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:12.880 I should have asked trouble anyway, trouble be known. 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.719 Random facts, how many of us have them? 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:17.680 Tribs? 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:18.640 Let it go. 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:22.520 Can depend on tribs. 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:23.920 I like the remix. 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:26.560 From now on, I'm gonna say for your triple. 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:29.240 And we're never letting go, never letting us. 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:35.760 All Right, y'all, let's take a quick break, pay some bills, 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.240 and then we will get back into the meat of 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:38.679 the show. 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:39.800 Pose. 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:47.920 All right, we're back with what has become my favorite 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:48.480 segment of. 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:52.080 The show, Opper, No Up, Trible, what. 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:54.520 We got today for and Well? 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:58.760 In the news. Recently, Jonathan Majors is back in the news. 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:02.520 He has a feature film coming out called magazine Dreams, 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:06.720 And it seems as though he had another little feature 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:10.159 come out, some audio leaked by Rolling Stone of him 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:15.240 seemingly allegedly admitting to strangling his ex girlfriend, and then 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.640 a day later, maybe less than twenty four hours later, 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:20.880 it was announced that he and Meghan Good are married. 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:24.360 And so I want to know if you have op 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:28.080 or no op about Megan's support of him. She got 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:31.799 some backlash on the internet about being with somebody who 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:34.080 has been accused of being. 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:38.680 Abusive, about Meg or is about Jonathan Major? About him? 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:42.440 Because I don't want to get into debating whether or 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:43.440 not he is an abuser. 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:46.040 Yeah, we don't know that. We don't know agree. Well, 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:48.279 that's a reason to not have an op on that, Yeah, 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:49.359 because we don't know the facts. 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:51.119 So I will be the first one saying I don't 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:54.400 have an op on that because I don't know the facts. 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:57.760 In this day and age, facts be changing and AI 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:00.679 is real and people be changing a fact. So until 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:02.400 I know for certain, I'm not gonna have an opinion 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:04.240 on Jonathan Major's But I do have an opinion on 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.560 Megan Good. I think people should just get over their 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:11.800 fucking selves, right, Like Megan Good, met this man. 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:12.880 When she met this man. 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:15.840 And if you look at some of our heroes, right, 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:18.760 you look at Maya Angelou, she was a prostitute. 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:20.880 Malcolm X was a convicted feeling. 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:24.000 And I'm not saying this to bash those two, but 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:27.000 I'm saying these are people who if they were defined 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:29.840 by their lowest moment, we wouldn't be celebrating them. 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:31.920 So why do we do that to people? In this 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:32.480 day and age? 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:32.640 Right? 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:36.440 Social media era loves to find someone's lowest moment, pull 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:39.040 it up and keep them near at all times. And 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:41.320 I'm just not doing that. And if they love each other, 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:42.920 I love it for them. 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:45.080 Yeah, I was gonna say no OP for me because 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.360 that's people business, because I don't know why they could 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:49.520 tell me not about me and the vow in our business. 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:51.800 You know what I'm saying. At some point you just 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:54.800 have to understand like it don't have nothing to do 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:57.480 with you, and that's okay, and we don't have to 0:07:57.520 --> 0:07:58.120 address it. 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.240 Next I'll pass torch to Matt. 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:03.320 I got no op because I got a model in 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:04.960 my life. They are to marry people. 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:06.559 Business period, especially being married. 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:08.320 Now you understand that part. That's why I did it. 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:10.200 My whole life because when I get mind, stay out 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:12.000 of mind, like AKA, now, stay out of mind. 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:15.440 I like that. Ysh, no op, no op. 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:23.240 I guess my only opinion is that people need somebody 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:24.720 to love them. 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:25.600 I think we all do. 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:27.840 None of us were meant to be on earth by ourselves, 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:30.280 and I don't think any of us can say that 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:36.920 we've never caused harm to another human. So hopefully she is. 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:40.640 And I, you know, I would like. I don't know her, 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:42.800 so I don't. I can't say whether I can trust 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:45.160 her opinion or not, so it's kind of giving no op. 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:47.959 But I hope that she has a support system behind her, 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.360 so that, you know, if she ever were to find 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:53.320 herself in danger, she would have somewhere to go and 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:54.240 somebody to lean on. 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:56.439 I feel you in that you don't have no appa 0:08:56.480 --> 0:09:00.320 by her, But I respect that because we didn't have 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:03.559 respect that the absolutely congrats making. 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:06.559 Next facts, Congrass, congratulats. 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.960 I love the love, if that's what it is, all right? 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:13.200 Next in politics, politics is kind of a ship show 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:15.439 these days. You know what's going on. 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:16.400 Un your statement of the year. 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:20.440 I think I'm gonna run for president next time. 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:23.600 You probably, I mean you shaved your legs now, so 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:23.920 you got. 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:28.000 You just need a lot of money to win the president, 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:30.840 like a couple of trillion dollars. 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:35.000 Yeah, for sure. But since the inauguration, uh, the current 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:37.839 administration has done a lot to try to roll back 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:44.280 DEI programs and race based programs and colleges, universities, schools, 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.679 corporations are rolling back their de I programs. And I 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:51.560 saw this video on one of my favorite Instagram accounts. 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:57.040 It's called a Subway Takes comedian joy l Nicole Johnson. 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:00.400 The take. Yeah, she's freaking. 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:05.920 I've seen other comedy of hers. I would have to 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:07.520 I would have to look back, but I want to know. 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:10.199 I wonder if this is the same woman who is 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.640 like in a relationship with somebody that's not black. So 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:15.000 it's funny that if it was her, it's funny that 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:17.319 she made this take for her take right, Her take 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:23.240 was to bring segregation back. She said that she wants 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:26.360 to know where she's not welcome. Don't be covert about it, 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:31.120 be overt about it. Let's have white's only badthrooms neighborhoods. 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.120 So what's your opinion on that, because it seems like 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:36.240 what's happening right now, we're living in Project twenty twenty 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:40.439 five apparently, and it seems as though that is kind 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:43.199 of where we're getting back to. So what's your opinion. 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:48.319 I do have an opinion on this because history, I 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:51.640 understand what she's coming from with talking about bringing segregation back. 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:55.199 Her overarching idea is the fact that black people did 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:58.000 the best when black people lived amongst black people. Right So, 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:02.160 for example, during reconstruction, before redlining and everything happened, black 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:07.640 people had their own towns, you know, like to Pahoma, Rosewood, 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:12.959 Seneca Falls. There was also right under where we live 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:17.440 in New York City, in Central Park, there was a 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:21.320 black community that lived on that land and what ended 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.400 up path forgot the name of the community, God forgive me, 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:27.800 but they that is Seneate Village, right there is Senate Village. 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:28.839 Yes, it is Seneca Village. 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:31.920 They decided that they were going to take that land 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:36.000 from the black people who had lived on it, had churches, office, everything, 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:38.559 and they were going to make themselves a park. 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:40.959 So what they did was they changed. 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:42.640 The laws and said, hey, the deeds that you have 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:45.199 to this land no longer matter. Even though you had 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.360 deans on the way, don't longer matter, We're going to 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:51.400 run you off, rape your women, kill you drowned pretty much, 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:55.400 they drowned the whole Seneca village just like Laate Lanaiir 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:59.079 and then created what we know now as Central Park. 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:01.720 Wait, is that the same history of Lakelander? 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:03.559 Pretty much the same? 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:07.160 And to me, that's why I think her take is 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:10.400 so important because people have been saying so far, well, 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:12.920 if black people don't like it here, why don't they leave? 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:16.760 Or if other immigrants came, how come black people can't 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:18.680 grow from here? And it's like, wait a minute, we 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:21.760 did grow, and during reconstruction, every time we did grow, 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:26.080 you burned down and killed everything we had, which proved 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:29.559 that segregation was the best thing for black people because 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:33.480 integration just allowed black kids to go to white schools, 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:38.880 get treated poorly, but then learn history whitewashed. So now 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:41.960 black students don't even know their own history. They can't 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:45.200 circulate their own dollar within their own community because there 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:48.120 were systems put in place that allowed other people to 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.440 capitalize off of the genius of being black. 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:52.439 So I understand where she's coming from. 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:54.680 The only issue that she's going to have is people 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:57.880 gonna say, well, segregation was never separate but equal. So 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:00.440 if it's not equal, you want to have suppering to 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:02.319 have less. So I would say, no, I don't want 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:03.640 to have supper to have less. I just want to 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:06.920 have my own. I want ownership. So my opinion is 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:09.240 I agree with her. Black people need to focus on 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:12.400 having ownership and circulating everything we have amongst each other. 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:13.360 So that's my opinion on that. 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:15.640 Yeah, speaking of the circulation of the dollar, here's my 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:22.880 opinion on it. Her saying that she prefers to know, oh, yeah, 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:26.800 who welcomes her. Yeah, so that way she can then 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:30.880 support those businesses by choice. Is when you're not going 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:32.959 to be supporting a business that you don't really know 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:34.679 if they really fuck with you or not, and you're 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:37.000 taking that chance, it's like, let me know who to 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:40.079 support because they accept me. And that's the way initially 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.640 we've been trying to back in the day keep the 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:47.320 black dollar within the community. So that for me would 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:50.319 be the important factor. Because I am proud to say 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:54.040 that since this whole DEI situation you know, started what 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.120 was at the end of January or whatever, I have 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:57.200 not step foot in Target. 0:13:57.720 --> 0:13:59.839 And I can vouch for that because y'all know how 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:02.440 you know it was a field trip. 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:06.480 I haven't been to Target. I haven't been to Target, 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:08.440 I haven't been to public. So I think they rolled 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:11.000 it back to Kroger, like where I feel like I 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.720 can make an impact. I've been trying to do that, 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:18.040 So I prefer to know. I'm the committee of people 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:19.880 who say, you know what, let me know where I'm 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.560 welcome or not, so that way I can support accordingly. 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.760 And let's be clear, we are definitely understanding that DEI 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:27.760 programs didn't overtly. 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:28.680 Help black people. 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:29.400 I get that to right. 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:31.600 We know that we know who's crying. 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:34.360 I think it was of the DEI programs, only seven 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:38.320 percent of the people who got got opportunities because the 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:41.800 di were black black people, right, So we're not doing 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:44.520 this because we're only representing black people, also representing women 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:47.560 because a large part of the DEI programs were women. 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:48.680 And my wife's a woman. 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:51.560 So if you're saying that there was another there was 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:55.640 a a Christian evangelist. I got his name, but he 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:58.080 said whenever he walks into his office and he sees 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:02.720 a black female doctor, the first thing he thinks is, oh, 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:05.080 she must have had it easy to get here, because 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:09.360 of DEI programs, and people started blacking on him, saying, like, 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:12.880 it's actually the opposite. If you think about what the 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.880 world is, that woman probably had. 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:17.520 To go through ten it was that much harder. 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.160 The standard for her to even get there is probably 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:22.760 ten times harder than what you ever could imagine. 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:24.320 Absolutely, And the fact that they don't. 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:25.720 Even see it that way is another reason why I 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:28.240 agree with segregation, because I'm tired of having this conversation 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:28.840 with white men. 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:30.800 Right because you know, essentially it was probably just a quota, 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:33.400 phil like, you got to have somebody in there at 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:36.360 some point this you know that, so some kind of 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:38.880 diversity I just But I also realized how much of 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:41.800 a crocket was too when we were applying for independent 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:44.800 schools for jacks like that. So when Jackson, you know, 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:46.520 being the first child, we were trying to do our 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:49.720 due diligence when it came time for school education, what 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:52.080 are the possibilities? Knowing that the New York public City 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:56.560 school system was just not it, we went through every 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:59.480 avenue to get Jackson into some sort of program where 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:03.560 you can get a good education. And we realized in 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:07.120 this program called Early Steps, which was supposed to it. 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:10.280 Was supposed to be the diversity program, yes. 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:12.520 For people who you know, you're trying to get a 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:15.800 diverse population of people into these independent schools, which is 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:18.600 maybe one to two seats lass and. 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:22.800 The person who did run Early Steps was looking for 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.600 black and brown families and black and brown kids. 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:26.320 But it wasn't. 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:29.200 It wasn't until we went to the meetings for diversity 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:32.280 that didn't only have Early Steps people with other people 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:33.600 that we realized. 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:33.720 What was happening. 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:37.440 Right, So the diversity was not just black and brown individuals. 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:41.920 Diversity was economic diversity, so geographic diversity. 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:43.840 If you're a white person and you make a certain 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:46.120 amount of money, you were considered diverse, so you could 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.520 take up that spot right, or a minority right, Or 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:50.520 if you're a white person and lived in the Bronx 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:53.240 as opposed to Brooklyn, you could still have that spot 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:58.120 in a school in Brooklyn because it was called geographic diversity. 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.000 So pretty much what they did was they kept change 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:02.840 what diverse was to not include people who like. 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:05.240 Us, or to include us, but make the stakes that 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:07.280 much lower for us to get the spot because we're 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:09.960 now contending with people who have all of these other 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:14.959 diversities or our minorities and whatever, you know, demographic they 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.479 fell in and it went from that to you know, 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:18.720 same sex households. 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:21.520 There were so many different things. So it just made me. 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.080 Realize too that a lot of these DEI things and 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:27.080 a lot of these diversity programs, they're really not for 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:28.120 us anyway. 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:30.000 But I want to know where to spend my money. 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:32.840 I've been trying to at least go to find and 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:36.600 support more black owned businesses, ordering directly from their websites, 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:39.639 things like that, you know, I think at least makes 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:42.119 me feel like I'm putting my dollar back into my 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:43.520 fellow person's pocket. 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:45.920 I agree, Matt. 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:48.520 I get where she was coming from, h with the thought, 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:52.560 but implementation of this would be crazy in twenty twenty five, 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:54.560 so I don't know how this would really work. 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:56.000 I agree with that. 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:57.639 Yeah, it would look kind of crazy to see a 0:17:57.680 --> 0:17:58.359 colored on me. 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:02.000 Could you imagine a color is only bathroom? Yeah? 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:06.920 Could you imagine a white only restaurant? What you're gonna 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:11.400 have mayonnaise? That's what she said, Oh she did. 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:15.160 I'm just being honest. Like when you go. 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:16.960 To get food, raisins in your potato. 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:18.920 When you go to get food, where do you typically 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:25.600 go think about anybody ethnic places. Right, you're gonna eat Black, 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:28.479 You're gonna eat Mexican, you're gonna eat Asian. Do you 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:31.239 ever Italian? But do you see anybody I'm gonna get 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:32.640 that good old American cuisine. 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.520 Nobody says that, let's go to I don't want a 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:37.520 burger unless I'm feeling for burger fries. 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:38.160 That's it. 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:40.680 And that's the only thing I think White American cuisine 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:44.760 consists of. That in an apple pie and chicken sela chick. 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:46.360 I love chichicken. 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:49.080