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Speaker 1: Clem book Club, tell your secrets. We won't. No boys

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Speaker 1: am doing honestly, Okay, how are you? Thanks for checking in. No,

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Speaker 1: it's been a really rough week with the invasion of Ukraine,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I know everyone has a lot on

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Speaker 1: their plate, especially podcasters, and so thank you for yeah,

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Speaker 1: just for asking how I am, because it has been tough, sweetheart.

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Speaker 1: Um okay. So yeah, we read an epic books this week,

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Speaker 1: a newly topical book as of a few months ago.

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Speaker 1: I guess last may I believe was it really that

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Speaker 1: while ago? Yeah? Well, because I went to Okay, So

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Speaker 1: we read DMX's memoir Earl, The Autobiography of DMX as

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Speaker 1: told to Smokey Dfontaine Love much an amazing name. Love

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Speaker 1: when a ghost written is and as told to well,

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Speaker 1: it's almost you said the words right out of my

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Speaker 1: dfid I know. It's like, let's drop the ruse that

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Speaker 1: DMX and Smoky d are like side by side at

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Speaker 1: because it keeps coming back to this, just like Wild

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Speaker 1: DMX like sitting in his car being like, oh, this

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Speaker 1: is all I asked for, but also like fame is crazy,

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Speaker 1: like he can only get solace like sitting in his

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Speaker 1: it's very country music to just be like it's only

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Speaker 1: the open road for me, which to bring up BLAZZI again.

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Speaker 1: I feel like in this book, Smoogy Defontaine is like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Phoenix hadn't really seen any celebrities besides like a few

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Speaker 1: Blazzi's book, she says the best place to look for

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Speaker 1: celebrity athletes is Phoenix, like the Phoenix Airport and like

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Speaker 1: various christ steakhouse in Phoenix. Right, Ruth Chris is, but

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Speaker 1: I guess they hadn't seen some to the stature of

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Speaker 1: famous DMX. Yeah, and maybe it's also like I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I mean this was this book has in about two thousand,

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Speaker 1: so I think like Phoenix is one of the fastest

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Speaker 1: the past ten years it's expanded quite a lot. It

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Speaker 1: become much more of a destination year round and an

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Speaker 1: investment because we both have investments, and we own fractional

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Speaker 1: shares in several homes in the greater Phoenix area. And

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Speaker 1: we'll be talking more about arrived homes and our investments

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Speaker 1: in the VIP lounge. You'll learn all about how to

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Speaker 1: become a fractional landlord and fast growing metropolitan areas. Raleigh Durham.

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Speaker 1: So in this book is also so again it's called

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Speaker 1: E R L And I'm sorry, I can't quite get

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Speaker 1: because since my book did not arrive in time, I

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Speaker 1: did have to download a pirated copy from a Russian

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Speaker 1: book website in honor of the Ukrainian invasion. It does.

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Speaker 1: The website is DMX world dot. Are you now we

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Speaker 1: know where you stand? Not cool, Stephen. I looked for

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Speaker 1: Ukrainian pirated DMX websites and there weren't any. Okay, I tried.

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Speaker 1: This is very those tweets that are like, do not

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Speaker 1: because when you go to Brighton Beach for food, like,

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Speaker 1: boost that into my TL. Thank you so much. Well,

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Speaker 1: that way when you can pretend you're making out with yourself,

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Speaker 1: making me feel weird. No, so I gotta tell obviously. DMX,

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Speaker 1: so sad. It's like, yeah, he had. I mean what

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Speaker 1: Worcusino by JFK. Yeah, that's not what we're aqueduct. Well

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Speaker 1: But I feel like the aqueduct does run from there

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Speaker 1: like always getting arrested for robbing. But early on as

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00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 1: a child, he finds this like butterfly outside and he's

425
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,199
Speaker 1: like so excited about it and slapping around and he

426
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 1: manages to catch it in a jar and then he

427
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 1: covers it with the lid and then he like has

428
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 1: an ext to his bed and he's so excited. It's

429
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: so beautiful and it's like wings. Probably's some beautiful thing

430
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: he's ever seen. He wakes up the next morning and

431
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 1: the butterfly obviously is dead, and he realized that he

432
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 1: forgot to like punch holes from the top. So this

433
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 1: is him talking about that. I couldn't believe that I'd

434
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: forgotten to do that because of how excited I was

435
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: when I caught it, because all I was thinking about

436
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 1: was how cool it was to have I didn't even

437
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: give that butterfly a chance to live. Now my butterfly

438
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: was dead. Grandma tried to console me, but I cried

439
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: and cried being selfish. I'd fucked around and killed the

440
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 1: most beautiful thing I had ever seen in my life.

441
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 1: Isn't that so so poignant, so beautiful. I just you know,

442
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 1: I think that part really endeared me to him, and

443
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,239
Speaker 1: I think it really like cast a beautiful light on

444
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: all of this stuff that does in the book, because

445
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 1: you know, everything is really just like his story and

446
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 1: as aggressive as he is, you know, it's all just

447
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 1: like that, it's all coming from this really hard wine

448
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 1: emotion that he's that he's felt and that he's experienced.

449
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: Every time I feel like one of the dog does happen.

450
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: He was so just like oh God, Like is this

451
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 1: like Judgment Day and all life the Jehovah guilt and

452
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: just like has been through so much and it is

453
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: just like especially and it's like all the drama with

454
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: his dad. Yeah, his dad bounced, but then his dad

455
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 1: was like a watercolorist and like this one time his

456
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: dad and I feel like he, you know, throughout the

457
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: book he gives life forgiveness, I think, to his parents

458
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: at the end of the book because he's like, that's

459
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: the only way I can move on. But I feel

460
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 1: like these reflections that he's like as when he's telling

461
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: Smoky Defontaine where he's like, see what my like mom

462
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 1: or dad said, They're like they weren't like how are you,

463
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: like I miss you? They or like do you have

464
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: a lawyer? Yeah? I think Smokey is like helping like

465
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: elucidate those points for him just being like and this

466
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 1: was that another moment where it's like the parent could

467
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: have said something to show that they cared, and then

468
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: they didn't, And there was like very few moments where

469
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: they did. This time that his dad like says he

470
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: wants to see him and he shows up to like

471
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 1: one of his like rap battles and it's like one

472
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 1: of the more like official shows he's having. He's like,

473
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 1: looks at this guy and he was accused wearing leg

474
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: warmers M and MS is like, I'm talking multiple pairs

475
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: of leg warmers, red corduroy pants, red corduroy shure with

476
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: elbow patches. He was like, no, this cannot like just

477
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: like this alternate and is not my dad, And then

478
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: the dad does just ask him, like do you have

479
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 1: a lawyer? I think his dad is trying to give

480
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: him like fatherly advice to make sure he's not getting

481
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: like screwed over that. But DMX is a little bit

482
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: just like why not, like how are you? Or like

483
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: and I miss you? Just like this fake it's very

484
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: I know you didn't watch second season of Cheer, but

485
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: just like this girl on Cheer her dad who was

486
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: like she's the girl from Boston and her dad was

487
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 1: like arrested for rape and he's finally out of jail

488
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: and he's calling her and like trying to get her

489
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: an agent, and she's kind of just like, I'm actually

490
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: not trying to hear your random advice right now because

491
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: you were in jail for my whole life. Wow, that

492
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: sounds intense. Yeah, I need to finish watching that Netflix

493
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: original series Cheer. Yeah. I mean, you know, parent relations

494
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: are hard, and you know it can be tough to

495
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: connect with your child, and then there's always I mean,

496
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: I feel like you've seen this also in a lot.

497
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: It's like very jain and seconds and then it's like

498
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 1: and then you're suspicious of the parent when they kind

499
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 1: of like come back, when you start to get a

500
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,719
Speaker 1: little bit of heat on you, you know, and then

501
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're cool, and now your parent

502
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: wants to talk and it's a little like you're right,

503
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you don't like trust it. Another thing

504
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: of his like relationship after the Connecticut girl, like were

505
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: to assume there are a lot of like random girls,

506
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: but then well he does because he moves to Rachel.

507
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: He's been like then I was getting pussy like regularly

508
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: and sounds like there was always just like a steady

509
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: stream of pussy, right, I know. But then he's like,

510
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: I feel thinks very like trying to like respect his

511
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: wife because he never he's like not praying about it

512
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: so much in an Anthony key this way, you know

513
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: what I mean, he knows his wife is reading this

514
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: that's the vibe of this book is my wife, because

515
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: then he's like, my favorite thing to do is just

516
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: to watch movies and drink I see with my wife.

517
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:53,639
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549
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Speaker 1: about this part when he had gotten his one of

550
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,760
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551
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,040
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552
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,800
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553
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: so he had like he sees Wendy Williams car double part,

554
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: because you know, back then it wasn't just TikTok okay,

555
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: you had a tape and you had to give it

556
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: to someone. No, I mean he's really irl. I mean

557
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: they're running around the records. I mean people were pressing

558
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: mixtapes to vinyl. I saw Wendy Williams walking out. Wendy

559
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,719
Speaker 1: was the biggest female personality on the station. She had

560
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: a primetime slot, and because of all the Howard's stern

561
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: like gossiping she did about everybody at hip hop, she

562
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: was becoming one of the most known and most hated

563
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: radio people on these coasts. She had double part, but

564
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: now the car that was next to the curb had

565
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: pulled off, so she was running to get her joint

566
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: out of the middle of the street. All right, all right,

567
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: give me one, she told Wall in a hurry. Wendy

568
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: wasn't the best person to give can't touch me kid too.

569
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: She wasn't ed Lover or mixo DJ like Red Alert

570
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: or funk Masterflex. But at least she would hear it

571
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: and hopefully talk about it. As I watched her drive away,

572
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: I felt like Wall and I had accomplished something. Then

573
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: I saw something that I couldn't believe they're lying on

574
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: the ground was the record WHA had just given her.

575
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: That fucking bitch dropped my single along the Street. I

576
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: was crushed, obsessed with her throwing this huge I know,

577
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: this huge final out on the show. I guess we

578
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: haven't really touched a base about how Sherry Shepherd is replacing. Yeah,

579
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: and let's definitely loop back off line about that. Um yeah,

580
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: and I all I can say is that I hope

581
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,719
Speaker 1: it's for Wendy's best. Yes, I do think Wendy probably

582
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: Wendsy a break, um, but I hope she returns with

583
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: just quick Sidebart. Do you remember the Bart where he

584
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: called called one of his teachers a flat ass coffee

585
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: drinking bitch. It's like sixt eighty. She's yelling at him

586
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: for something like that was accurate, like insult a lot,

587
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: but a teacher because teachers are so drinking coffee, have

588
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: flat as that are just like always drinking like wheat coffee,

589
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: and you're like, damn, that's all you do, wheat ass teachers,

590
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: loud coffee bitch. Like, especially as a kid, you're always

591
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: just like what is up with grown ups and coffee? Okay?

592
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: Crazy question. When did you start drinking coffee? Thank you

593
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: for asking. Um, it was actually I was not till

594
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,959
Speaker 1: I was like twenty five. It was kind of like

595
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: twenty five. Yeah, it was like post my policy. That's

596
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: also when you started drinking off as well. Yes, it was.

597
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: I think it was actually really because when it came

598
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: bec a freelancer, and it was always always like I

599
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: don't need it, Like I don't want that. I don't

600
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: need the energy, you know, It's like I haven't have

601
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: a natural energy coursing through my veins. And I also

602
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: just thought that like coffee was for grown ups and

603
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: did taste bitter and gross. Right, You're like I need

604
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: something sweet. Well I wasn't even like one thing sweet.

605
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: I just literally just like actually wait, I would have

606
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: like ocean spray cran in the morning and like a

607
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: bakele um, big oceans. But you're like you're like Fiday

608
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: opening up this ocean spray. Well that's okay, that's just

609
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: like me being real. And then I think like once

610
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: it's for me freelancer, I was like I'm addicted to

611
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: like because freelancing is about like pretending, you know what

612
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: I mean, and coffee is the ultimate prop so I

613
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: kind of became more like I needed somebody getting my coffee.

614
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: So right there, email and well and it's a chance

615
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: to go on, I mean chance to leave, chance to

616
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: leave the old apartment, leave the old house. Well, and

617
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: especially because our our apartment in our early twenties was

618
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: ridden with bad bugs, so we needed it. We needed

619
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: everything we could to leave. I mean, I feel like

620
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: my relationship coffee is fully also just like fake, Like

621
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: all I wanted to do was to be like a

622
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: beat poet drinking coffee. So being an adult, you know

623
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: what I mean? So what Yeah, how old were you?

624
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: You were fourteen? You were wearing I started getting ice

625
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: pacinos from the white honed pantry in high school that

626
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: we're just like pure sugar and so like original jangling

627
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: iced coffee, gay panic and then your memoirs, Like more

628
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: than anything, I wanted to be an adult and I

629
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: wanted to go to dunk it Like all I wanted

630
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: was grown up stuff, just like coffees, iced coffees, coffee

631
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: and diners. You know, for some people's I Dmax grew

632
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: up too early. He really did. He really did a

633
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: lot of trauma, as we mentioned. Okay, wait, do you

634
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: rememb the bart where he was like talking about his

635
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: some of his lyrics, and he was like, wait, I'm

636
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: just gonna find that. Are you talking about U? It's

637
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: dark and hell is Hot, which was like his first

638
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: big album off of def Jam. He goes and while

639
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: I got a lot of heat from my lyrics on

640
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: X's Coming, and then in parentheses the lyrics if you

641
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 1: got a daughter older than fifteen, I'm a raper. Those

642
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: critics seem to forget that I had a prayer on

643
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: the album as well, just like, actually back it up, critics, Okay,

644
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: oh yeah, so I said I would rape your fifteen

645
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: year old daughter. Um, yeah, there's also prayer and I

646
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 1: am a man of God weep with. Then the next

647
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: line is, ironically, a woman actually did charge me with

648
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: rape that summer, purely a case of mistaken identity. I

649
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 1: wasn't even at the party where the alleged assault took place,

650
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: and just hear the lawyers being like, alleged, alleged, alleged

651
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: aged Okay, that's what I was saying. It was like,

652
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: and that's right before when he finally gets married to

653
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: his longtime Worferen, He's like, totally ironically as featured in

654
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: The Atlanta's Morrist song woman Accused Me a rape. Just

655
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: let's slide that in which is would have life's classic

656
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: little ironies. Was wondering, I mean, hip hop historians get

657
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: at me if I'm wrong, But here's some lyrics from

658
00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, was he the originator of making Sasame Street badass?

659
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: And kind of like using Sesame Street lyrics to like

660
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: a lot of clothing of like having Oscar the Grouch

661
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: with like a gold chain, and like, you know, do

662
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,959
Speaker 1: you have the lyric that you're reference? I have the lyric. Yeah,

663
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, I have the stream that I've been

664
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: having a lot, which that's so meny, I've been having

665
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: a dream that I've been having. I just you're always

666
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: like I'm remembering a memory that Sesame Street turned into

667
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: a crack spot, all of them dead, not a sound

668
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: to be heard from the Monster, the Count, the Grouch

669
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: or Big bird Um. Anyway, just I wonder if he

670
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: is the originator of like making of Sesame stuff like

671
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: badass Sesame streets. I mean, listen, it's you know Sesame Street.

672
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,959
Speaker 1: You know they're street. It's in the name street. They're

673
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: raised on these streets. I like the part where he

674
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: talks about how like he was not sort of like

675
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: in the fashionable um type of man that ladies wanted

676
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: in the eighties because like girls wanted to fuck like

677
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: Prince and so they wanted like, I'm like, they wanted

678
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: to like Latin guys or guys with like green eyes

679
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: or like puffy ass collars and like sort of more

680
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: like feminine men, and he was just like sorry, Like,

681
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: but even later, I feel like he is a little

682
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: more like like he does get like cool rough riders

683
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: jerseys and like gets cool leather jackets, but like he

684
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: is more about being like shirtless with pants, yeah, which

685
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: is extremely hot. Um. And he like talks about all

686
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: these other rappers that have like gorgeous leather jackets, and

687
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: he's like that wasn't really me, Like I kind of

688
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: my thing was just like chain shirtless sweatpants, um, which

689
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: is well. He also, you know, he was like he

690
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: couldn't afford close a lot, and then he was always

691
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: like stealing sheer lean jackets like that was a big thing,

692
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: but then he would like sell it to like get drugs.

693
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: We should talk about the drug stuff briefly, just because

694
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: you know it is obviously important to his story. He

695
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: did die of drug overdose. Who can induce heart attack? Right?

696
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: And you know he talks like he talks very briefly

697
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: in his teens about like getting introduced to drugs and

698
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: then like wanting to do them more and more and

699
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: like smoking crack laced pod and you know it's like

700
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: and then like you know this period where he was

701
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: just like super like kind of cracked down on the

702
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: street and he was like embarrassed, like running to his

703
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: sister because he like felt like he was like really

704
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: losing it, but like he kind of like, I don't know.

705
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: Then he kind of moves on from that section and

706
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: it's briefly mentioned, but it doesn't like come back as

707
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: like a demon that's haunting him. I guess, no, I know,

708
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: And I was wondering about that because I feel like

709
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: it does come back, But I think what happens is, like, right,

710
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: he's smoking weed and then does like get more like

711
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: hooked on crack and like, and so it goes to

712
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: show that weed is a gateway drug. It is coffee,

713
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: then weed, coffee, then weed together, then coffee and weed together,

714
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: then coffee laced weed, and then you're jab so but

715
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 1: also it's like, do be careful, stick to cbed flavored

716
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: seltzer as know who you're getting it from. Know who

717
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: you're getting your like day trip, hem been view seltzer from,

718
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: know the Delhi you're buying a recess CBT s sie

719
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: pomegranate recess. Trying to think there's anything else I wanted

720
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: to mention, Oh, you know, he did have asthma as

721
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: a child, which of course I related to as a

722
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 1: suffer of asthma. Um Asthma is also a big issue

723
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 1: in urban communities because of air quality and pollution, and

724
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: as someone who suffered, you know it is an undiscussed ailment,

725
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: underdiscussed ailment. I think for a lot of kids, and

726
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: you know, it's often seen as oh, you're seen as

727
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: a bitch ass little pussy if you're coughing, if you

728
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: can't run the half mile road race, but the other

729
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 1: kindergarteners because you need to get your nebula as if

730
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: you have a inhaler. I mean, I'm guilty to that.

731
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 1: I will say, I thought you were always making fun

732
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: of people who had inhalers. We're little bitches. But yet

733
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: I still can't like run without getting out of breath

734
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: so right, and who's laughing now? And now I can

735
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: run a mile on the treadmill and then stop and

736
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: I can run a few blocks, stop, pick up again stop. Okay.

737
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: I was also just one more thing I was wrong.

738
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: He does talk about belly. I forgot this part where

739
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: he like this is also again him like a like

740
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: being so like my wife is reading this is like

741
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: he had a sex scene so he told his wife

742
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: to stay home that day. And also, yeah, because I

743
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: want to get into how in what they called intimacy

744
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: advisors on movieses and he is coordinating top stuff. He's

745
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: coordinating this sex scene. DMX has being the intimacy coordinator.

746
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: You're saying, yeah, he's like okay, He's like, okay, so

747
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: this is what's going to happen. They were like, they

748
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: want me to fuck you from behind. I'm gonna do

749
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: a few pumps, so then I'm like lifting up your

750
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: left leg. Then I'm going to flip you over her. Um, hello,

751
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: taking all the romance out of them right, hello? Um

752
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: that's so like anytime an actor is talking about a

753
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: sex scene, they're like, here's I think most people don't

754
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: realize shooting a sex scene is incredibly uns It's totally

755
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: all these people are watching. You're cold, so cold, You're

756
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: wrapped in so many sheets, you have to do ten takes.

757
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: It's the least erotic thing on the planet and the

758
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: only other thing I wanted to bring up, which I

759
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: was just like his determination of like rapping and how

760
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: beautiful was was like when he gets like beaten almost

761
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: to death and he gets his jaw wired shot for

762
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 1: three months has had his jaw wired shot, and Friend

763
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: of the Pot Alex and Friend of the Pot and

764
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: Coulter also had our jaw wired shot. After talk about

765
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: a hip hop supergrim Kanye DMX and artist's body confidence

766
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: in Ann could love to see what they'd come up

767
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: with in this studio in heaven. Um. Anyway, he's still

768
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: like he like starts to wrap in his jaws hurting,

769
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: but he's like, I need to push through and like

770
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: do this battle like post the job, just like you

771
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: podcasting after your top surgery. I mean I was going

772
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 1: to stay little me sliding up in this rolling chair,

773
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: adjusting this this soundproofing folder, putting up curtains. Yeah, basically

774
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: the same thing. Truly iconic. Let's make you an honorary

775
00:42:44,840 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: rough rider, What she um? What does she eat? What

776
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: does she eat? He she really? I mean it, I know,

777
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: and I'm obsessed with it. I should say he like

778
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: is I feel like he's thin? I mean he is

779
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: being like sort of poor to the boots and as

780
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 1: always like I was hungry and like didn't have food,

781
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: and we're like fighting over cereal, fighting cel and he's

782
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: like steery stealing cereal from his like roommates, cabins, like

783
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: at the group home, and he's like those were the

784
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: best meals we had. But it's not. I feel like

785
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: when he when he starts to get really successful and

786
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: like he's a little more just like, oh can I

787
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 1: get a Heineken in his like Phoenix flashbacks, Like he's

788
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: being more Heineken's less like oh yeah. Then we went

789
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: to Ruth's Chris's and like he's not being so caught

790
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: like with puff Daddy. I feel like going and getting

791
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: such a tuna tower. No, I don't think it's an

792
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: Ahey tower. I mean I wonder if it's just like

793
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: simple like simple steak, like one bite for me, one

794
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: bite for my dog, and he's sharing a steak with

795
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: this well that was so cute. He was like me

796
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: and Boomer shared literally everything. Yeah, it's I mean vegetables.

797
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 1: I don't think he was seeing a lot of vegetables

798
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: in his childhood. But I'm like, what were you know?

799
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: Does he fux with a salad like it's cut to

800
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: twenty ten your DMX, it's the middle of the day.

801
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: Are you having a Caesar? My crazy he is. I

802
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: think he's a little more cob actually, okay, we want

803
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 1: like a few more food grips, hard world egg, turkey,

804
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: Like it's more protein. Like I could see some cobs

805
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: or Caesar's being sent to the studio. I guess you're right.

806
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: If it's food being sent to the studio, it's maybe

807
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: not a Caesar, and that's going to be wet with

808
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 1: all the equipment. I mean, not that a cob also

809
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: can't be wet as well, but but as Caesar just

810
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: sort of has to be wet at the end of

811
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: the day. Yeah, I do think it's like a meat loaf, steak,

812
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: maybe like a turkey club. Okay, it's always protein based.

813
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: But I also bet he like now and then we'll

814
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: like fuck with the pasta. But rarely like I could

815
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: see him being like that actually makes me gassy. No. Yeah, yeah,

816
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: that's tracking for me because he's not so coffee. No,

817
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 1: he's not cost and he's not so Jerry, and he's

818
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 1: not being so shrimp belfrighto. And again this is where

819
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: he's not that Ruth's Chris's. Yeah, I think it's a

820
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: little more like Heineken steak. Okay, Um, what does he where? Well,

821
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: he's obsessed with hoodies, I'll tell you that right now.

822
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: I feel like his whole Like the amount of times

823
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: the word hoodie appears in this book is maybe like

824
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: one hundred times. Where he's talking about like what he wore,

825
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: and it's like he that's his comfort space, and like

826
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: obviously the hoodies became more expensive as him went on. Okay,

827
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: but then he's wearing this like amazing almost like overall

828
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: esque outfit here this fat that fat farm. Yeah, I

829
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: mean that's a cool but I think it's cool. I

830
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: mean that's also just like a large sort of like

831
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: late nineties like when breaker material like jumps suit kind

832
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: of thing isn't jumpsuit camo. I feel like no. But

833
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: and then he's in so he's doing a lot of overalls,

834
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: a lot of overalls, I mean his thing is like

835
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: the goals like big Chain, Yeah, I mean those are

836
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: styled photoshoots, and I do think there's like, you know,

837
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: I appreciate that there is a homeroticism to his shoots

838
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: and his sexuality, um in a way that you know,

839
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: not necessarily all of the rappers we're doing at this time. Well,

840
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: he is not afraid of, yeah, showing some skin. It's

841
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 1: he's very shirtless, yeah, but very way. But I'm saintly

842
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: even that like that overall pick like this isn't just

843
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: like oh, you're wearing a beater like this is like

844
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: overall to me is way like gay or and more

845
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: sexual in this way because it's like the reference is

846
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: not just like, oh, I'm at home, Like the reference

847
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: is like I am like this fashion worker and it's

848
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: like a little bit loose, and it's like and like

849
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: you might see the nipple, but then you're not fully

850
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: seeing the nipple. Like just sure off is just kind

851
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: of like not necessarily erotic in the same way as

852
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: an overall is. I think it might And sorry, just

853
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: to stand for my man dmx yr rip, I don't

854
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: think he'd want you be calling him gay on this pulse.

855
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: Well I'm allowed to interpret his fashion choices, however, I choose.

856
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: I mean, look, we are free here in America, Okay.

857
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: I don't think those overalls and T shirts is homo erotic.

858
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: I think that's like a little more just evoking general

859
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: workwear and kind of being I think that anytime that

860
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: you're showing a nipple and it's not because just because

861
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: you're shirtless, that that is more erotic than just being shirtless.

862
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: Sorry I'm saying erotic. I guess I'm like, it's intentional,

863
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: it is in touchal. I guess I'm just saying like,

864
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: I don't think he's trying to attract men there with

865
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: a home eroticism, but I think you can he's celebrating

866
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: just his straight sexuality, was showing one nipple. So you're

867
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: saying a firehouse is not home or nothing homorotic about

868
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: that because they all have wives. A firehouse is very

869
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: homorotic because they cooked together every single night, right, So

870
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 1: I think it's evoking firehouse culture, in which case there's

871
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: a homeoroticism there. I guess here he's wearing like goggles.

872
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: I think he's just kind of like playing with a

873
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: little more streetwear pieces than being homoerotic and I'll die

874
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: on this hill of overalls. I guess I think there

875
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: is this thing of like overalls have gotten gay or

876
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: over time because like gays are being I'm not talking

877
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: about the contemporary reference of overalls. I'm talking about at

878
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: this moment in time that structured to the overalls, that

879
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: suggestion of the nipple. There is something more playful there

880
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: that you're just going to have to deal with. This

881
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: photos gay or to me, where he is the overalls

882
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 1: are just completely undone and he's account the chest. Yeah,

883
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: this to me is a gay or photo. Yeah, I

884
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,959
Speaker 1: see what you mean, because well the zipper coming down

885
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 1: there with the it's like, yeah, it's like the zipped

886
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: And yeah, I do think one overall on is still

887
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: a little bit gayer. There's this scene where somewhere because

888
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: also that evokes like a purse and you know that's gay. Okay,

889
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: that wait, having one one strap. Well, I guess another

890
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: gay thing is like the first thing he does is

891
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: like a dog collars made, which is very fatal. And

892
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: then okay, and then what I still do think his

893
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: big overall is straight. But then this is another gay

894
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: moment where he's like he had just gotten his new

895
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: rough Rider jerseys, and he's like, some guy spills a

896
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 1: drink on him and he's like, not just any drink,

897
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: like a fruity like mango, just like a fruity cocktail

898
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: and he's like seriously, Oh and it's so colored, pretty cocktail. Yeah,

899
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: And I will bring up Freddy cocktails in the VIP

900
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: lounge because I have something to say about them. Oh

901
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: did you have Fretty cocktails at the podcast conference that

902
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: you entered? And it was and it was the only option. Oh,

903
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: because was the audible dot com sponsored cocktail. Okay, I

904
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: really can't wait to hear about this and the vip lounge. Okay,

905
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: how does she live? How does she live? I mean

906
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: what school is? He's like a hometown girl and he's like,

907
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: so coming back to Yonkers after all this time, and

908
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: like that's just like where he feels comfy. Yeah, with

909
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: his you know wife. I mean that is pretty cool.

910
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: He dreamed of this. How often does that happen? You

911
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: see this hot chick in your neighborhood, you're young, and

912
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: then you end up marrying her. You know, God, if

913
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: only I'd married my next her. Niamhbor Paulina Metropolis thank

914
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: or i'd be now exactly. You saw her in her

915
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: Greek robe and then she shows up one day and

916
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: you could just have to try really hard, but you

917
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: finally do marry her. Finally Mary convinced her mom that

918
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: I'm right. Yeah, how does he live? I mean, I

919
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: want to say it's big, sectional, it's comfy. Yeah, he's

920
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: comfy boots, not getting a ton of interior design choices.

921
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: But maybe there's like so many framed dog too much

922
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: framed dog photograph, fool photography, like Swarovski encrusted dog statues.

923
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: Maybe I think it's more that and like right framed

924
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: like records and like crazy dog sculptures, verse having like

925
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: such a basket of like weird dog toys that are

926
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: like fake ducks. And I don't think he's No, I

927
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: don't think he is some like dip miss podcast or

928
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: couple with their basket full of like bespoke ass chewy

929
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: dot com toys. These fogs are playing with the bodies

930
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: of cats they've murdered. Yeah, heres you when he described

931
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: and he's like, here's the thing about raccoons. When they

932
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 1: and he's like really going through the process and he's

933
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: like when they are murdered. Their eyes do bug out

934
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: a lot. It's like the thing about a raccoon is

935
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: they're kind of big, but they're the same weight as

936
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: a really large cat, So for my pits, like they

937
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: could take either one. I do think raccoons are like

938
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 1: really cute, like when you see them up close and

939
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: then you kind of like they're apparted them that I

940
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: find really cute, And like a little part of me

941
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: is like, but we discriminated against them because they eat garbage. Well,

942
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: aren't they like mean too or is that just a stereotype.

943
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: I think that's a stereotype. Because they come out at night,

944
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: we're like so like we're so anti like nocturnal creature.

945
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: It's like the same way that we're anti like people

946
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: who are in the nightlife industry because they're nocturnal and

947
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: we assume that they're like ill behaved and they're they're miscreants,

948
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: and like raccoons are clubbers and they are women of

949
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: the night and like they need to be respected, right,

950
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: And they're like curvy and they have these like tiny

951
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: hands but like baked stomachs, so like clever to be

952
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: tiny and pick stomach. No, the tiny hands are cute Um,

953
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: I just remember I walked by this one that was

954
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: like eating out of the trash and I was like, damn, okay,

955
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: right they're freakings. Um so yeah, I do think it

956
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: is like gorgeous custom crystal dog sculptures around the house

957
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: and then like framed records and may I think it's

958
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: like he is a scrapbook. I feel like he is

959
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: a little maybe like framing some of his lyrics on.

960
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: But would he frame his lyrics or would he just

961
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: like or would it be like okay, like there's like

962
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: photos of family. I mean, this is pretty much like

963
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: an everyone's house and that's not that like wild so

964
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: photos of family, wild of media conjecture. Um. But maybe

965
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 1: it's more like there's like a beautiful like a note

966
00:53:54,360 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: that like dot MC of the like yonkers like Big

967
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: Daddy Cat gave him in nineteen ninety six and it's

968
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 1: like the fray right frame note. I was going through

969
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: like some of his older original tracks, and it is

970
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: interesting to hear his more just like early nineties totally

971
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: old school rap style like Pree when he became like

972
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: so give a Dog a Bone like rough Rider, I

973
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: feel like it was softer but right, yeah, he hadn't

974
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: found his voice yet. He was. Yeah, it was less growl,

975
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: but I think that was him like being the go

976
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 1: I should probably like sound like you know, these older rappers,

977
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 1: and he hadn't found like his full dog self yet,

978
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: you know, in the way that we started sounding like

979
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 1: Mark Marin at first, when we started podding, um, okay,

980
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: who are you in the book? This part? Do I

981
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: have it? This is so me. I had stolen some

982
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: tims I was wearing that night, and they were a

983
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,439
Speaker 1: few sizes too big from my feet. To make them fit,

984
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: I bawled up some sweatstalks and stuff them in the

985
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 1: front of each boot. She didn't have to see that

986
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: because I didn't walk that night. I thought of you

987
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: also at that, like buying tims that are too big

988
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: or like what's fine you fee? So I've just been

989
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: like I'm hoping to like wear them to impress a

990
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: girl about like wearing them to an event, so like

991
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: hopefully I will just kind of have to sit or

992
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: stand and not really like clump around your your foot

993
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: does morphia always wearing shoes too big? So in that sense,

994
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: I am X Yeah, who am I am? I like

995
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: one of the kids at one of the group homes

996
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: who got made fun of for his big nose as

997
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: a kid. I mean, I saw some parts of you

998
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: know X, and you where you know, I feel like

999
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: you have a dream and you're just going to go

1000
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: after dog with a bone. Yeah, yeah, a dog with

1001
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: a bone. That's that's generous. I suppose, I guess I

1002
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: feel like I mean, I thought I do find him

1003
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: inspiring as a figure. I wasn't necessary. I wouldn't saying

1004
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 1: you're fully X. Yeah. I mean, listen, you know I've

1005
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 1: said it before. I'll say it again. I've been to jail,

1006
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 1: been arrested four times, spent the night in jail twice.

1007
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: I felt the cold steel of handcuffs on my thin,

1008
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: delicate little wrists, and god damn it if I didn't

1009
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: escape when I had the chance. So in that sense,

1010
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: I also didn't relate to him because I was just like, huh, well,

1011
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: I never sort of broke out of jail, and that

1012
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: sounded cool, right, And I kind of was like, you

1013
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: should have in the day, the day you spent there,

1014
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: you should have ran away. I should I should have

1015
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: broke out of the holding facility in Red Hookum. Huh yeah.

1016
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was just like am I x

1017
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: am I the lesbian aunt having parties and being like,

1018
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,919
Speaker 1: don't come into my room. I do think we are

1019
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: the lesbians at his own Yes, okay, the lesbians having

1020
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: crazy varieties. You're racy times in the nineties, old school,

1021
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 1: very much. Stay tuned for the vip Lounge coming up

1022
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: right the fuck now, where we are going to get

1023
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: into Lily's first big conference slash summit, which I really

1024
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: can't wait to hear about. You're really gonna want to listen,

1025
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: no pun intended, because it was a podcast lanyards, drinks

1026
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: Q and a sessions, seated panels, standing room only panels,

1027
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: wrist bands. I'm on the fucking edge of mind, similar

1028
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: to a DMX concert. Basically, you had a battle, yes, yeah, no,

1029
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: it was basically rap battled with an associate producer for

1030
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: Radio Lab and shit went all the way down and

1031
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: you'll hear about it right now on the vip lounge.

1032
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: And for those of you who don't sell um, sorry losers,

1033
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: but for those of you who do, we'll see you now. Yeah, best,

1034
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: welcome to the v ip Lounge. That's right here. We

1035
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: are again, still talking, still alive, still podcasting still kicking

1036
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: and we are reporting live after the event of the year.

1037
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: Of course, I am not talking about Putin's invasion of

1038
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: the Ukraine. I'm talking about Lilli Marada's invasion of the

1039
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: Wife Hotel in downtown Brooklyn, New York. Okay, so the

1040
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: Wife Hotel is actually in Williams work and that is

1041
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: what I mean. Thank you, Wow, sad. Have you ever

1042
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: even been to the Wife? Um? Yeah, I actually I

1043
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: have been to the Wife and I've stayed there and

1044
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: I've um and I've fucked a guy there. Awesome, Yeah, totally.

1045
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: Um did that happen in your dream? Okay, so let's

1046
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: just fill our listeners. And so you went to I

1047
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: like honestly, like I was, I was like, I heard

1048
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: a rumor about this summit, and I was like, wait

1049
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: a minute, there's a summit happening. But then I was

1050
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 1: gonna be out of town. I was like, well, Lily,

1051
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: we'll go. But I didn't really realize like this was

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Speaker 1: a full up summit. Like every joke I've ever wanted

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Speaker 1: to make about a summit like this was was a summit. No,

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Speaker 1: this was amazing opportunity brought to us by one of

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Speaker 1: our producers, and I feel like we both were like

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Speaker 1: I also assumed it was going to be on Zoom

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Speaker 1: and then I like looked it up and I was like,

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Speaker 1: hold on, it's at the Way Hotel, Like wait a second,

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Speaker 1: there's free lunch. And then I was like, wait a second,

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Speaker 1: Chuck D Hip Hop Legend, Public Enemy is going to

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Speaker 1: be there, Oh damn. And then I was like Radio

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Speaker 1: Lab is going to be there. This is a full

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Speaker 1: as summit. And that was just a taste of the

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