1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk Nashville. 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 2: Hi everyone, this is your host Sarah Harrelson of Taking 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 2: a Walk Nashville. I hope everyone has been enjoying their 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: new year, and I want to give a quick shout 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: out to Sennheiser today on this episode, I'm using their 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 2: podcast profile. Mike and I have been loving it, but 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: today here with me on Taking a Walk Nashville is 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: Sean Martin, the lead singer of the grungepunk metal band 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: The Quarantined and this band sound grew through college and 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 2: internet radio play in the early twenty tens and all 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 2: of the members of this band are former students of 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 2: the Musicians Institute in Hollywood, California. They recently released their 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: new album, A Version two Normalcy in November, with the 14 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: record being a cathartic confrontation with trauma and resilience. This 15 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: band has currently amassed over ten million views across TikTok, 16 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: with one viral clip earning over one million views. 17 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more of the Taking a 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: Walk Nashville podcast. Welcome to Taking a Walk Nashville with 19 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: your hosts singer songwriter Sarah Harrelson. 20 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: Sean Martin, Thank you so much for being here with 21 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: me today. How are you good? 22 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: Good? Thanks for having me. It's great to be here. 23 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: Of course. 24 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 25 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: So The Quarantine your band has been active for over 26 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 2: twenty years now. Can you tell us how you formed 27 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 2: this band and came up with a name for it. 28 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, it started with really a need to you know, 29 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 3: have something of my own, you know, to as as 30 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 3: far as because in going to music school, you usually 31 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: go there because you're like I held to get as 32 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 3: much work as possible. I want to work as many 33 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 3: different people as I could, and for me, I was 34 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: doing that, but everything would would fall apart at some 35 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: point or another, like everybody would. It would eventually meet, 36 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: you know, with some impossible problem and then just eventually 37 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 3: give it up. And sometimes the problems weren't so much 38 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 3: impossible as they were self inflicted. But you know, that's 39 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 3: also part of the music industry. But I knew that 40 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 3: I had a bunch of songs and a lot of 41 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: things to say, and I wanted to give it a 42 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 3: vehicle and give it some you know, somewhere to go 43 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 3: with the everything that I knew had happened in my 44 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 3: life that I didn't know how to talk about the 45 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 3: feelings that I didn't know how to express the kind 46 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 3: of person who I wanted to be, and who I 47 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 3: was didn't seem to be conducive to existing in the 48 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 3: rest of the world. Sometimes it's hard to be the 49 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 3: only one who's doing the right thing. You have to 50 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: make the choice between cutting yourself off for your own 51 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 3: mental health and desperately needing to be involved because it's 52 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 3: an existential problem that you have to face. And I 53 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 3: kind of feel like that's where my life has existed 54 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 3: for a long time, like probably before the military, but 55 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 3: the military was definitely a prime example of this, and 56 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,119 Speaker 3: through a lot of the therapy that I've done over 57 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: the over the last twenty years since I started writing 58 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: that the first songs for This, for This, for This Band, 59 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 3: I know that I've grown a lot and learned a 60 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: hell of a lot of different perspectives and ways to 61 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 3: get to gratitude. And that's one of the most important 62 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: aspects this music has brought to me is because whenever 63 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: we're in a really, really bad situation, the thing that 64 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: we need that we don't actually know usually know how 65 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 3: to vocalize. When we're in the lowest, lowest point, what 66 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: we really need is gratitude and perspective. And if we 67 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 3: can get gratitude, get to someplace where we can see 68 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 3: gratitude and perspective for ourselves with the people around us, 69 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 3: then we have a much higher chance of getting through 70 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 3: that suicidal feeling, that existential crisis, that between a rock 71 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 3: and a hard place kind of situation when we get there, 72 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 3: and that's where we can find solutions. And that's really 73 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 3: what the Quarantine is about. It's about being thrown apart 74 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 3: from society, thrown away from society, you don't have any 75 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 3: access to anything. What are you going to do on 76 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 3: your own? And are you going to come to the 77 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 3: right answer? And that's that's really what the Quarantined is 78 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 3: is really about. Meats. 79 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, And as you mentioned before starting the Quarantine, you 80 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: did serve in the US Army Airborne Infantry from two 81 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: thousand and four to two thousand and seven, and afterwards 82 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 2: you dealt with PTSD following your deplointment to Iraq. So 83 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 2: did writing this music help you navigate what you were 84 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: dealing with post serving in the Army? 85 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, absolutely. You know, the Quarantine is a political 86 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 3: vehicle as much as it is an emotional view. For me, 87 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 3: they're both intertwined. I knew that I had to find 88 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 3: a way to express the things that were going on 89 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 3: in my head, and there wasn't people who I could 90 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 3: just talk to about it. But connecting with people through 91 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 3: music through covers has also been a very important aspect 92 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 3: because you know, if you put a as we've now 93 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: seen over the last oh, I don't know, maybe ten 94 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 3: fifteen years or so, an explosion in covers of different kinds, 95 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 3: like my my my favorite is the slow piano march 96 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 3: for whatever song you know, like you'll take they'll take 97 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 3: last resort and do it as a slow piano like 98 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: a dirge you know it or some or something like that, 99 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: or I don't know, something pops on like take me 100 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 3: on you like definite, they didn't take take take on 101 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 3: Me for a deadpool Like That's the most classic example 102 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 3: that I that I have with this, Like they I 103 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: would do that a lot, So I would I would 104 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 3: start doing covers of the Sound of Silence, and I 105 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 3: would start doing covers of Frank Sinatra and you know, 106 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 3: to bring them into a grunge context. And that's that's 107 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: something that a lot of audiences across the US have 108 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 3: really responded well to. When I've gotten and performed there. 109 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 3: So it's there's a lot of different avenues I've found 110 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 3: to reach people through music. It doesn't just have to 111 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 3: be in one particular genre. I'm the kind of musician 112 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 3: that will take from any genre if it has good 113 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: emotional context and content. 114 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and you can connect to other veterans through 115 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: your music. You're known to be a veterans' mental health advocate, 116 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: and with your new album that's out now, you channel 117 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,239 Speaker 2: a lot of your own experiences as a war veteran 118 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: and two reflections on trauma and healing and just finding 119 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: purpose and chaos. So is that kind of your hope 120 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: releasing this album that maybe other veterans can relate to 121 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: this music themselves and maybe they can find some joy 122 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: from it or ways to you know, get through whatever 123 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 2: they're going through. 124 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, yeah. Although I will say it's not like 125 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 3: that TV. It's not so obvious that it's made for veterans. 126 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 3: I feel like the message is more universal than just 127 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: helping veterans navigate them. That's more of a like a 128 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 3: direct personal conversation, you know. The thing that I found 129 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: in we're talking with veterans from all different eras is 130 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 3: you have to be able to meet them on their love. 131 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 3: The music is there to make a point. Every song 132 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: that I write has a message, It has a lesson, 133 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 3: It has a call to action for yourself, you know, 134 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 3: something that's meant to be self reflective, that's meant to 135 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 3: instigate conversation, if only with yourself, but I found that 136 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: other people. When you start talking, other people will respond 137 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: to be able to open up more about it. And 138 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 3: these songs instigate those kinds of conversations. So the response 139 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 3: to that I've seen now internationally with really really cool 140 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: about it is the see that happen over countries' borders. 141 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: You know, for example, Brazil. Most people in the United 142 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 3: States don't know deaction shit about Brazil except for Desnaris 143 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 3: is pretty nice, you know in the summer, like that's 144 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 3: all that they really know, and even that's kind of wrong. 145 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 3: So there's there's a lot to that culture that is 146 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 3: very much about fighting the existing powers because they are unjust, 147 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 3: because they are unfair, and there is a big push 148 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 3: for self governance, autonomy, community coming together, spending tax dollars 149 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 3: for the people who who pay the taxes, and creating 150 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 3: programs for them that benefit them. That's something that's big 151 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 3: that's going on in Brazil right now because they just 152 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: threw off a dictator. They just got Jarrea Bolsonara out 153 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 3: of power and they prosecuted him and that's a big, 154 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: big deal. So especially a version to normalcy, there's definitely 155 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 3: an asset of that in the music and I wanted 156 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: to create, especially with Nemesis. Nemesis is about confrontation. It's 157 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 3: about confronting yourself. It's about confronting yourself and what your 158 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 3: intentions are and what your actual follow through is. What 159 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 3: are the actions that create the end result regardless of 160 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 3: your intention. That is an aspect of the songwriting that 161 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 3: I wanted to bake into it that it is an 162 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 3: existential problem that you have to deal with when you're 163 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 3: when you're fighting a problem. 164 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, and in this album not only has important messages, 165 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: but you recorded it at the legendary Blackbird Studios here 166 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: in Nashville. It's been known to produce some of rock's 167 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: most iconic records. The album, you worked with a lot 168 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 2: of great people and it was engineered and produced by 169 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: Nathan Yarborough, who has worked with the likes of Alison 170 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: Chains and Corn and then also featured Zach Rapp from 171 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: Dream Theater on lead guitar and violin. 172 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 3: So cool. 173 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: What was it like working with these legends on this album? 174 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 3: It was okay, so this might sound weird, but it 175 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 3: was extremely efficient. An efficiency in the music creation process 176 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 3: is one of the most and most invaluable subtle things. 177 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 3: So I would ask for something and I would get 178 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 3: exactly what I asked for. That's amazing, you know. And 179 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 3: the fact that these guys have can have the ability 180 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 3: to hear something and go, oh, you're looking for it 181 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 3: more blue green ish, kind of a little red on 182 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 3: this side. I know exactly what you're talking about. Like 183 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 3: that is fucking insane. I don't know exactly how that works. 184 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 3: But the fact that we were able to communicate so 185 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 3: well and to get to the result that we all 186 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 3: wanted extremely quickly was something that you know. I've tried 187 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 3: to record this this album three times myself, wow, three times, 188 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 3: and I spent a solid like over the entire period 189 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 3: of trying to record it and re record it and 190 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 3: mix it was about five years. So eventually, once I realized, hey, 191 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 3: I could take this to the best studio that I 192 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 3: could find, maybe maybe I should change my plan and idea. 193 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 3: Then I just started focusing on the best way to 194 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 3: play every single assect and get it down to if 195 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 3: I have to re record five seconds, how good am 196 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 3: I gonna be at recording just that five seconds? And 197 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 3: I mean I really went as deep as I possibly 198 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 3: could to make it so that when I showed up 199 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 3: at that studio I could be one take, chake the 200 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 3: whole entire time. And eventually that's what we were doing 201 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 3: with the guitars. But the vocals I still had to 202 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 3: go through and work them out. But I know that 203 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 3: I got compliments from Nathan and the cadio manager at Blackbird, 204 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 3: and I know that I can definitely give the compliments, 205 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 3: the same compliments to Zach and to Lewis and Jerry 206 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 3: because they heard it. We're like, oh, I know exactly 207 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 3: what you're looking for. This is gonna be great, this 208 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 3: is gonna be fun. Then they would sit there and 209 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 3: joke for twenty minutes and then be like all right already, 210 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 3: and then hit the studio and knock it out in 211 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 3: like one or two takes. It was fucking fantastic, And 212 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 3: that's some great thing. 213 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: I mean, working with this level of professionals there used 214 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 2: to being in this studio, and it's so important to 215 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: save time in a studio obviously when recording, but I 216 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 2: think a lot of people don't realize a lot of 217 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: people solo artists and bands they don't bring they don't 218 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: always bring their band into the studio to record their album. 219 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: They'll play with them live, but sometimes there's just a 220 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 2: different dynamic where there's you know, studio musicians who are 221 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: better in the studio than live. They're great at coming 222 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: up with the parts saving time, whereas that's not always 223 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: the case with the live band. So I think that's 224 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: a good point to mention because it's not always like 225 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 2: the same band that plays in the studio. 226 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 3: Right right, And other purpose that people go it is 227 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 3: they try to write in the studio. Everything was already 228 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 3: pre planned and so we had very much an agenda. 229 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 3: So there wasn't much time for fucking around, you know, 230 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: there wasn't much time for it. It was you're going 231 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 3: to do this part. It very much felt like a 232 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 3: construction project, you know, like you're gonna you're gonna lay 233 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 3: the foundation at this point. Okay, so you're gonna then 234 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 3: lay the walls on the inside. Then you're gonna do this, 235 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 3: you know, all those It was very much laid out 236 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 3: to be a house at the end, and it wasn't 237 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 3: like we're trying to search or find anything. So especially 238 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 3: because that was the purpose, that was the intention, that 239 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 3: efficiency makes it just a wonderful experience, just a I'm 240 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 3: probably gonna be chasing that high for for a long time. 241 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 3: Like just to make an album in a matter of 242 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 3: a week when you've been doing it trying to make 243 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 3: it happen if for three years, is really truly an 244 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 3: amazing experience. 245 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely makes it so fun to be able 246 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 2: to do it in that sort of efficient process, and 247 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 2: you can definitely tell. 248 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 3: By the quality. 249 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: So you recorded this album in Nashville, as mentioned, tell 250 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: us about your transition to Nashville and how you ended 251 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 2: up relocating here. 252 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 3: So in twenty twenty one, I was living in Florida, 253 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 3: and I really didn't like living in Florida. Eventually it 254 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 3: came opportunities came around to where I was like, well, 255 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 3: I can either try to find a place to live 256 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 3: or just go on the road. And I decided I'll 257 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 3: just go on the road. And I had this crowd 258 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 3: funding campaign that I was doing for Instagram Hell and 259 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 3: or what would eventually become Instagram Hell and One Last Chance, 260 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 3: two songs that are Instagram Hell, is going to be 261 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 3: released later this month, a new version that we did 262 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 3: at Blackbird Studio. But at this time we were I 263 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 3: was getting ready to record it in Boston with this 264 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 3: studio called Plaid Dog Records, and I had four or 265 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: five months or so where I had to prepare to 266 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 3: go and record at Boston. Everything was set, the crawdfunding 267 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 3: campaign was already done. It was just ready to go 268 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 3: and record it now. And I had four months where 269 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 3: basically all I had to do was not die. So 270 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 3: I decided to go on an open mic tour. I 271 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 3: went and played open mics and everywhere that I could 272 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 3: find to play, from the East Coast to the West 273 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 3: Coast and then back again. Then I went to Boston 274 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 3: to go and record it, and went back to Denver, 275 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 3: and then from Denver, I went to Deadwood, North Dakota 276 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 3: or Deadwood South Dakota. I lived there for a little bit, 277 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 3: then I went to Pennsylvania. Then I decided to come 278 00:17:55,160 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 3: here to finally do the real thing of recording the 279 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,959 Speaker 3: album that I knew was I was finally ready to 280 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 3: do it and you know, try to go after the 281 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 3: the industry that's that's a Nashville Because I had already 282 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 3: been in Los Angeles, and I'd already known that there's 283 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 3: a lot of things that I liked about Los Angeles, 284 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 3: but it wasn't really the place for me. Nashville seemed 285 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 3: like a good, a good, a good place to start 286 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 3: for for Mike music. I've I've found that there's a 287 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 3: there's a real gratitude now for people not doing you know, 288 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 3: just country music in Nashville. It seems, I don't know 289 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 3: correctly if I'm wrong. 290 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if you were thinking about Nashville in 291 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 2: early two thousands, you would probably say forget it because 292 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 2: it's just a country music scene. But now it's opened 293 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: its stores for rock and pop and all sorts of genres. 294 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I've in the short amount of time that 295 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 3: i've that I've that I've been around here, it seems 296 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 3: like it's very much a musician's city, not just the 297 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 3: country city. Yeah, everybody loves their cowboots, and if you know, 298 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 3: somebody starts singing Shania Twain, people are gonna fucking dance. However, However, 299 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 3: there is also a real, you know, sense of community 300 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 3: that people want to have and are trying to build 301 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 3: and trying to curate as well. You know, even the 302 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 3: Session musicians were very much it was very important to 303 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 3: them to foster the community around them. It was very 304 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 3: important to them to you know, go to other people's 305 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 3: shows to you know, facilitate for the other musicians who 306 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 3: they knew when were friends and knew that were good people. 307 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 3: That's something that they they consciously chose to do because 308 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 3: they knew that it helped the community, not just one 309 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 3: person like that's that's really super rare, and a in 310 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 3: a big music community, that's really rare. I mean, there 311 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 3: were semblances of that in Denver. But the truth was 312 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 3: is that everybody who I was hanging with in Denver 313 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 3: was just as poor as everybody else. Nobody really had 314 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 3: the ability to put some real money into whatever project 315 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 3: they were doing. They were all trying to make the 316 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 3: best with what they had. They didn't have that access 317 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 3: to major promotions or major marketing or major studios or 318 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 3: a way to make their ideas greater than just them 319 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 3: playing it live. And they would play it live, and 320 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 3: they'd put their whole heart and soul into it and 321 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 3: the performance was great, but it only lasts that far, 322 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 3: and it's important to know that, you know, to have 323 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 3: people who know the music industry is more than just 324 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 3: creating a flash in a pan. It's about building something 325 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 3: that has longevity and has legs and wheels if you 326 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:59,239 Speaker 3: will to be the vehicle to carry you someplace. I 327 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,719 Speaker 3: wanted to say in Denver, but there wasn't a lot 328 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 3: of people who really knew and understood that concept. But 329 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 3: when I walked into the studios here in Nashville, they 330 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 3: were telling me, hey, fucker, this is what we're doing here, 331 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 3: and that is that's that's awesome. That's exactly the kind 332 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 3: of community that I that I wanted to try to 333 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 3: embed myself and to surround myself with people who really 334 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 3: were making a conscious effort to do something laughing with 335 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 3: the music talents that they had and which is significant. 336 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the community here is so great because 337 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: you know, everyone has the same goals and we're all 338 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 2: working hard to even earn enough to be able to 339 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 2: record that album in a studio here in Nashville. We 340 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: understand the work ethic. 341 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more of the taking a 342 00:21:55,520 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: walk Nashville Podcast. Welcome back to Take in a Walk Nashville. 343 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 2: When you came here, you know, you said you were 344 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 2: doing open mics across the country before you landed in Nashville. 345 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,239 Speaker 2: You you were also doing videos on social media at 346 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 2: this time. What was the clip that went viral for 347 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: your band on TikTok and did you expect it to 348 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 2: have the outcome that it did. 349 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 3: No, No, not at all. So the clip that went 350 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 3: viral was actually one of the major influencers that we 351 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 3: partnered with had a took one of our songs and 352 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 3: it went You got like six or seven million views, 353 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: and it's it's reposted on TikTok. You can go and 354 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 3: go and find it. We saw a huge spike in 355 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 3: the Spotify numbers because of it, and so we made 356 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 3: a post and said we got this song to one 357 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 3: million people, and then that helped it get to another 358 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 3: million people. And it's I don't I don't even know, man, 359 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 3: Like the treason the matter is is that that kind 360 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 3: of that kind of shit, it gets out of your 361 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 3: hands and you just you put out a lot. A 362 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 3: lot of this was allowing somebody to tell me what 363 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 3: I should be posting, and that normally wasn't the process 364 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 3: how I would do it. I would put up whatever 365 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,959 Speaker 3: I thought was, you know, what I was feeling at 366 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 3: the moment, or you know, whatever I felt like doing, 367 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 3: and all in overall, it was an inconsistent social media 368 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 3: plan because it wasn't really a plan. It was just 369 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 3: me using it as a sounding board for people who 370 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 3: I thought were listening. Once I started to understand the 371 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 3: strategies behind what you posts and how you put it 372 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 3: out and what everything that goes around it, and all 373 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 3: the different ways that you can promote it that doesn't 374 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 3: have anything to do with the posting itself is kind 375 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 3: of nutball, Like I don't know if a lot of 376 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 3: people have done influencer marking for their songs, but it's 377 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 3: a weird world, man, and I will say it works. 378 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 3: It's not is very counterintuitive, I think for most musicians. 379 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 3: But it was. It was really it was really great 380 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 3: to see that that kind of response, and it was 381 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 3: really consistently, you know, two hundred to the three hundred 382 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 3: thousand or so views on a lot of the content 383 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 3: that we were doing it. It was just the stuff 384 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 3: that we had recorded at Blackbird Studios. We had got 385 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 3: in the Massenberg Room or released what I call the 386 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 3: Masson Bird Room, which is this room that has one 387 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 3: hundred thousand one by one would spheres we'll say, that 388 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 3: are strategically and mathematically placed in the room to make 389 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 3: it a perfect sounding room. And it's really really amazing 390 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 3: to be in there a lot. I mean, it's everybody's 391 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 3: favorite room because it looks the coolest, you know, it 392 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 3: looks super dope. So we decided to shoot the the 393 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 3: recording of the of the vocals that we were doing 394 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 3: in that room, and you know, it just happened to 395 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,959 Speaker 3: really capture people's eyes, I guess, and I have no 396 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 3: idea how to make it happen again. Maybe we'll do it, 397 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 3: maybe we won't. I don't know. You know, it's it's 398 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 3: I what's really odd about it for me, and the 399 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 3: reason why I speak kind of tentatively about it is 400 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 3: because I wrote an a part blog in two thousand 401 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 3: and twelve, twenty thirteen about the Try and a part 402 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 3: of it, Part seven was about warning the community about 403 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 3: putting likes and views as a way to discern who 404 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 3: was good and who was not. Because I saw what 405 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 3: was coming, which was we're gonna end up fighting with 406 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 3: dog videos, we're going to end up competing with baby videos, 407 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 3: and that's not that's not the point of what we're 408 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,959 Speaker 3: trying to do. And we have to be able to 409 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 3: understand that views and likes are a temporary litmus tests. 410 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 3: They are not the end all be all of somebody's 411 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 3: existence in or they shouldn't be the end all be 412 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 3: all of somebody's existence in the music industry. And I'm 413 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 3: pretty sure nobody fucking listened to me, so we it's 414 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 3: a little weird for me to get to that other 415 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 3: side of you know, getting a lot of views and 416 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 3: knowing that a lot of people have seen my content 417 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 3: when before, you know, I was talking to an audience 418 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 3: of you know, maybe a couple thousand ye And it's 419 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 3: it's quite a it's quite a different feeling. But I 420 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 3: know that what it really does is set the table 421 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 3: for me to start interacting on a greater scale with 422 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 3: more and more people. And that's really the point. 423 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 2: And that's the great thing about it. You've converted so 424 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: many fans online to your music that you maybe wouldn't 425 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 2: have been able to reach through doing live music. So 426 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 2: I think that's definitely the great thing about it. But 427 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 2: you're also going viral in more ways than one by 428 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 2: working towards a more perfect union in partnership with free 429 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 2: toolove dot org. Can you tell us what this partnership 430 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 2: is and how it came about. 431 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that that came around in two thousand and nineteen, 432 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 3: I think, and it was. It's more of an alignment 433 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 3: of goals. Free love is has a a lot of 434 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 3: different ambassadors who represent different aspects of life. You know, 435 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 3: each of the different ambassadors that they have have or 436 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 3: advocates that they have, have each of their own unique 437 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 3: story something to say. We partner on really the goals 438 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 3: of trying to use music as a advocacy platform and 439 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 3: to have a set of values and attentions that we 440 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 3: embody to make a statement. You know, I've been in 441 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 3: a lot of the planning stages and trying to get 442 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 3: everything like in my head so that I understand all 443 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 3: of the different moving pieces of what this whole business is. Like. 444 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 3: I'm still coming into everything that I actually have and 445 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 3: utilizing all of the different aspects of who I am 446 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 3: as a person in the entertainment industry. For example, I'm 447 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 3: going to have a meeting next week with a company 448 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 3: that will help me write a book, and that book 449 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 3: is going to be is going to be the first step. 450 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 3: Because I already have multiple stories in and outlines that 451 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 3: I've written for TV series, for movies. This is going 452 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 3: to be the next set to get my story and 453 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 3: message across so that people can get a true vision 454 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 3: of where this shit actually comes from, and also as 455 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 3: a great method for explanation of what happened and why 456 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 3: it's important, you know. Then along with that, there's there's podcasts, interviews, 457 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 3: and there's live you know, TikTok live, YouTube live. Then 458 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 3: there's live performances. Then there's advocacy work, then there's music education. 459 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 3: There's so many different avenues two share your talents across 460 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 3: the board, and I'm still figuring out all of the 461 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 3: different ways to go and do that. So it's been 462 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 3: really really exciting to start seeing a bunch of different 463 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 3: opportunities come up. Because I have a certain level of 464 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 3: people on Spotify or a certain level of people on TikTok. 465 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 3: To me, I see it as just another barrier that 466 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 3: I have to overcome in order to get me in 467 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 3: the rooms that I need to be to say what 468 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 3: I need to say, to play what I want to play, 469 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 3: to share what I want to share, to express what 470 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 3: I want to express, And that's really the goal. That's ultimately, 471 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 3: that's the goal, as long as it gets me in 472 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 3: a room with someone and they can have an experience 473 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 3: of understanding, a moment of clarity, a to see through something, 474 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,479 Speaker 3: to feel something real about this world, not just be 475 00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 3: caught up in the duplicity, in the stupidness of how 476 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 3: everything is really really fucked up and every single part 477 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 3: of your life seems completely organized and you don't have 478 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 3: a fucking say in any of it. At some point 479 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 3: you have to have a moment in which you can 480 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 3: have a real conversation with yourself. And that's what my 481 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 3: music is for. That's why I play, That's why I 482 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,719 Speaker 3: pick up the guitar and I sing. With the intention 483 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 3: that I do and I played with the intention that 484 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 3: I do is to get through to people and not 485 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 3: just be superficient. I love that. 486 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more. I think that for me, that's 487 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 2: the whole purpose of music, And as musicians and people 488 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 2: in music, we should be advocates for other people and 489 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 2: their stories and their voices. So I think that's great. 490 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 2: If people want to see the Quarantine at an upcoming 491 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 2: show or follow you. Where can they find you? 492 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 3: You can find me on social media TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, 493 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 3: a website, the Quarantine dot Com. You can find us 494 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 3: on YouTube as well. We've got you know, we're developing 495 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 3: all of our social media more and more. So give 496 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 3: us a follow and a like on any of those things. 497 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 3: Send us a message through our website and we'll we'll, 498 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 3: you know, get in contact with anybody. That's great. But 499 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Great. 500 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 2: Well, my last question a famous question I always like 501 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,959 Speaker 2: to ask every guest who's on taking a walk Nashville, Sean, 502 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 2: do you have a favorite place that you like to 503 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 2: take a walk in Nashville. 504 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 3: You know, I actually haven't gotten around to walking much 505 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 3: in Nashville, but I will say this. When I first 506 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 3: got to Nashville, I went to a place where I'm 507 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 3: sure you know, called Painter's Allen. It was up off 508 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 3: of Broadway and there was It gave me the same 509 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 3: feeling that I had walking down Los Palmas in Los Angeles, 510 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 3: like a little grungy people say on the outside smoking cigarettes. 511 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 3: You don't know who the hell they are, and there's 512 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 3: you know, four or five venues and every one of 513 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 3: them is just popping off. And I went in there and, 514 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 3: you know, just hung out there for a while and 515 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 3: realized that there was an open mic at one of 516 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 3: At one of the places, I forget the name of it, 517 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 3: they had a situation where the mic was they would 518 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 3: pick five musicians, pull them up on stage, and make them, 519 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 3: you know, pick a song and play. And so I 520 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 3: went out there and I was already well versed in 521 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 3: this entire contest, because that's exactly what we did for 522 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 3: lpw's and Musicians Institute. So i spent three years doing 523 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 3: this already, so I'm completely ready to go. I know 524 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 3: exactly what to do. I'm prepared to have all my stuff, 525 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 3: you know, ready to go. I'm I'm ready before everybody 526 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 3: else is on stage. And we go and play eight 527 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 3: no Rest for the Wicked, and it was very, very 528 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 3: surprising for the majority of the audience because they'd never 529 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 3: really heard somebody play guitar, and because I play it fast. 530 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 3: I play it like a rap rock song, not like 531 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 3: a just city and grooving that kind of thing. I'm 532 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 3: trying to push it forward like a punk song. And 533 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 3: the audience response was fantastic and It was really a 534 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 3: great experience in talking with the band leader, the house 535 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 3: band leader and asking them all about Nashville. So I 536 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 3: would say when that was the first little walk that 537 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 3: I took in Nashville. So that was the very serendipitous 538 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 3: just walk that I happened to take in Nashville, and 539 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 3: it landed me already in knowing that, yeah, I should 540 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 3: probably come here. 541 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 2: And say yeah, I love Yeah, I love printer Zali. 542 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 2: There's so many great bars there, places to see live 543 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 2: music like alley tabs, a lot of great boogie bourbon 544 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 2: and blues and jazz restaurants and places to see live 545 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 2: music there. I love it. And it doesn't feel like 546 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:06,280 Speaker 2: you're quite like downtown off Broadway. But a little fun fact, 547 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 2: in case you didn't know, Printer's Ali used to be 548 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 2: Brothels back in the day in Nashville before they converted 549 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 2: it to live music venue. So it definitely has its 550 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:16,439 Speaker 2: own kind of. 551 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 3: Charm. I guess, yeah, it kind of looks like that. Yeah, 552 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 3: you can see some history in there, and like you know, 553 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 3: you go to Portland. Portland is the same thing, like 554 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 3: all all all the buildings along the waterways are old, 555 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,439 Speaker 3: old buildings and they all used to be brothels. Yeah, 556 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 3: a lot of some that are like vegan brew house 557 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 3: restaurants now super nice, used to be brothels. Like there's 558 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 3: a real there's a real fun history and it's and 559 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 3: it's really like you you go there and it's like, 560 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 3: this is a little different. This isn't you know what 561 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 3: what is Brad Paisley's you know, super stage, this is 562 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 3: this is a little bit more grungy, and it's a 563 00:35:58,320 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 3: little bit more of my speeed, you know I liked. 564 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's definitely more grungy as its own little charm. Oshawan. 565 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,479 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being on Taking a Walk 566 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 2: Nashville today. I hope everyone will check out your new album, 567 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 2: Aversion to Normalcy. 568 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Thanks so much 569 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 3: for having me. It's been awesome. 570 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to Taking a Walk Nashville with Sarah Harrelson. 571 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 1: Please check out our other shows produced by Buzznight Media Productions, 572 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: Comedy Save Me and Music Save Me hosted by Lynn Hoffman, 573 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: and Taking a Walk hosted by Yours Truly Buzznight. 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