WEBVTT - Title Tuesday vs NXT/TNA Showdown

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<v Speaker 1>We got a lot to talk about. It is a

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<v Speaker 1>crazy week, is it ever? All right? So here's what

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<v Speaker 1>we got. We got a whole bunch of shows coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>including tie Tuesday coming up, that's the Dynamite Show, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's coming up on Tuesday, head to head with the

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<v Speaker 1>NXT versus TNA Showdown. So both shows are going head

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<v Speaker 1>to head. But once again they've announced the Dynamite is

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<v Speaker 1>going two hours and thirty minutes. So if you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have enough wrestling, well you're gonna get Plenty tomorrow four

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<v Speaker 1>and a half hours on Tuesday night. No Dynamite on

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<v Speaker 1>the Wednesday. That's gonna be a Collision taping. So that

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<v Speaker 1>at this point is what's going on. We'll give you

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<v Speaker 1>a lineup for both shows. They've announced a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 1>We've also got Raw coming up tonight for matches announced

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<v Speaker 1>for the show. It is the go home show for Perth.

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<v Speaker 1>The Crown Jewel Show, which is coming up on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>This weekend is busy as we've got Crown Jewel bound

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<v Speaker 1>has the Cashier Versus Zach Saber match. We've got news

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<v Speaker 1>things can always change, but we'll tell you about that here,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as a new match announced for Crown Jewel

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<v Speaker 1>The Rock Smashing Machine kind of flopping. We'll talk about

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<v Speaker 2>You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 1>Mag of the show, Bran Albert is here Wrestling Observer Alive.

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<v Speaker 1>Filthy Tom Lawler is joining us here today. We got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot I get into. What are you doing over there?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm all tangled up, just like the world of professional

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<v Speaker 5>wrestling always is.

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<v Speaker 1>God I can't even do the opening segment. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>like I try and then I get lost. There's just

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<v Speaker 1>so much stuff going on, so very quickly. Raw is tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Becky Lynch versus Maxine dupri lyra versus Rock Sand

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<v Speaker 1>What and Yeah, lyra versus Roxane, Becky versus Maxine. What's happening?

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<v Speaker 1>Seam Punk will make an appearance in Roman Reigns kicks

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<v Speaker 1>off the show. This is the Raw go home for Perth,

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<v Speaker 1>which is Saturday.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, brother, I gotta tell you this earlier start time

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<v Speaker 5>for Raw.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not happening tonight.

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<v Speaker 5>Is it on the same time or is it on

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<v Speaker 5>even earlier?

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, I think it's on at eight tonight. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's on at eight from now on, except I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's two dates coming up. I forget the dates

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<v Speaker 1>that are scheduled to be seven o'clock. But whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>want to say about formulas and everything for the Raw ratings,

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<v Speaker 1>the actual numbers that Netflix gives every week, which whether

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<v Speaker 1>they're real or fake, I don't know. These seven o'clock

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<v Speaker 1>shows have died, so I would not be surprised if

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<v Speaker 1>they move it back to eight o'clock and we never

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<v Speaker 1>see seven o'clock again, I would actually prefer it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think tonight is eight o'clock. So then we've got

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<v Speaker 1>NXT versus TNA tomorrow, And as I predicted here on

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<v Speaker 1>this program, they have added Joe Hendry as referee for

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<v Speaker 1>the men's Survivor Series match and Jordan Grace as referee

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<v Speaker 1>for the women's because they skate the line, you know

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<v Speaker 1>they're unbiased. So tmnxt is really says Trick Williams, Miles

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<v Speaker 1>Bourne and Javon against Mike Santana, Frankie Kazarian, Moose and

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<v Speaker 1>Leon Slater. Team NXT women is j C Solruka, Jaden

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<v Speaker 1>Lolovis versus Kalani the Inspiration, who are the new Knockouts

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<v Speaker 1>Tag Team Champions and Mara Shade. Then we've got NXT

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<v Speaker 1>Tag Team Champions, Dark State versus t and a Tag

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<v Speaker 1>Team Champions of Hardy's Title for title. All belts on

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<v Speaker 1>the line.

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<v Speaker 5>Please Yeah, I'm never not since the nineties have I

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<v Speaker 5>wanted the Hardies to win a match so badly.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we've got Ethan Page against Mustafa Ali for

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<v Speaker 1>the North American title. So that's the NXT show going

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<v Speaker 1>head to head with title Tuesday which in fact has

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<v Speaker 1>almost no title matches on it. That guy, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>mad at me on Twitter. I'm still laughing about that one.

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<v Speaker 1>He was sure that the Brodido match was for the

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<v Speaker 1>titles and I was wrong.

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<v Speaker 5>Well rightfully, so he's sure I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I do actually for no reason.

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<v Speaker 5>I do like the stipulation at least, but not on

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<v Speaker 5>Title Tuesday. You could have done on any other show, right,

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<v Speaker 5>that could have been on Collision. But Title Tuesday, you

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<v Speaker 5>get a non title tag match.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, are two title matches are too?

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<v Speaker 5>Did they? They should have just done the whole the

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<v Speaker 5>woman's tag title tournament on Title Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>You know they probably could have, but and it is

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<v Speaker 1>a two and a half hour show. You could have

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<v Speaker 1>done the women's tag title tournament if you wanted to,

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<v Speaker 1>but instead the two title matches. Please keep calm. We

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<v Speaker 1>have got Mercedes Monette against a local wrestler from Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>which I still believe is gonna be easy because that

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<v Speaker 1>famous moment where Mercedes made easy cry was apparently ten

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<v Speaker 1>years prior to the day to the day, and Tony

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<v Speaker 1>likes those anniversary I don't know for sure, but the

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<v Speaker 1>other massive title match, get your bets in now Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>Fletcher will be defending the T and T title against

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle O'Reilly. We've also got Orange Cassidy I swear to god.

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<v Speaker 1>We got Orange Cassie versus Pak, which is not for

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<v Speaker 1>a title. We got The Demand versus the Hurt Syndicate

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<v Speaker 1>in a street fight, which is not for a title.

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<v Speaker 1>We have John Moxley and a Shee, which should be frickin' awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not for a title. We have Jurassic Express

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<v Speaker 1>and Action, not for a title. We have Samoa chon

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<v Speaker 1>Hangman Page face to Face, which will be for a

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<v Speaker 1>title on a different date. And we have Broddo versus

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<v Speaker 1>Ocada and Takeshta, not in a title match. However, it

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<v Speaker 1>is a double Jeopardy match, so if either Okada or

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<v Speaker 1>Takeshta gets pinned, I guess Ocad has to defend his

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<v Speaker 1>titles against whoever did it, and if Ocata and Takeshta win,

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<v Speaker 1>they will get a tag title shot. Not on title Tuesday. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>got all that all right, because I'm totally lost, And

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<v Speaker 1>then we got Collision. This is on Wednesday taped, but

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<v Speaker 1>we'll not air Wednesday, will air this weekend because what

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<v Speaker 1>they really need to do is air the show this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Coda Boushie versus Josh Alexander, Max Cats and Anthony Bowenes

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<v Speaker 1>versus Big Bill and Brian Keith. God Help Me, Eddie

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<v Speaker 1>Kingston versus Morta's Chris Statlander, Tony Storm and Harley versus

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<v Speaker 1>The Triangle of Madness FTR and Megan Bain versus Jet

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<v Speaker 1>Speed and Willow Nightingale and ty j in Action. If

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<v Speaker 1>anybody can explain to me a logical reason why this

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<v Speaker 1>a collision homecoming show doesn't just air on Wednesday, I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to hear it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's preempted by the NHL.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's right, that's why. Oh that's right, that's why

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<v Speaker 1>you got me. Not Thursday. Then this show is going

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<v Speaker 1>to die this weekend.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>Mmmm well, then we got the go home show for

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<v Speaker 1>Bound for Glory on Thursday. Joe Hendry, Eric Young, nod Q,

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<v Speaker 1>Most of All Le versus j d C, Matt Cardono

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<v Speaker 1>versus Ryan Namath, Trick Williams appears, and Leon Slater appears

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<v Speaker 1>SmackDown as Sammy z Ain's Open Challenge the best thing

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<v Speaker 1>on any show. Damian Priestylist for Black Last man.

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<v Speaker 5>Start, Oh, you'll change your mind once there's a EO

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<v Speaker 5>and Oscar segment tonight, and that's spot That'll be the

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<v Speaker 5>best thing on any show.

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<v Speaker 1>Just hold on. I said that was the best storyline.

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<v Speaker 5>That's fine. You just said the best thing a second ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, this is I.

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<v Speaker 5>I woke up and I had to read that Sammy

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<v Speaker 5>z Ain. You guys are saying Sammy's Ain's having the

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<v Speaker 5>best match on every show, not when he Sky's wrestling baby.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, his entire career, he's always had the best

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<v Speaker 1>match on every show, and Sky is on a different show.

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<v Speaker 1>So in fact, I'm now anyway, then back down, we

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<v Speaker 1>got the Sammy's and Joe Gacy and Dexter Loomis against

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<v Speaker 1>montes Ford and Angelo Dawkins for the tag titles. That

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<v Speaker 1>better be a title change. This has run split up,

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<v Speaker 1>This has run its score. They just split up Mizz

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<v Speaker 1>and Mellow Dude. They can't do two straight weeks to

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<v Speaker 1>split up.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh they can't.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think they're teasing a split up and they're

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<v Speaker 1>actually gonna win the titles.

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<v Speaker 5>Didn't they just do that over the summer.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they did.

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<v Speaker 5>I think they lost them.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they.

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<v Speaker 5>Did in the ladder match, didn't they I think? So,

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, they're just gonna run it back, run back.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you could break up two straight teams on

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<v Speaker 1>two straight weekends, Wyatt, that's the one that should Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what are they gonna do separately?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, you know I would like to see Uncle

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<v Speaker 5>Howdy and the Vintner.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, they titles Julian Keana versus Tiffany Stratton and

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<v Speaker 1>Stephanie Vicaer also on the show. So for Crown Jewel,

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<v Speaker 1>we have some breaking news here. We have got Cody

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<v Speaker 1>and Seth for the Men's Jewel title. We have Tiffany

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<v Speaker 1>and Stephanie for the Women's Crown Jewel title. John Cena

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<v Speaker 1>versus aj Styles, Rhea Ripley and eoversus the Kabuki Warriors.

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<v Speaker 1>And it has not been announced, but Bronson Reid will

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<v Speaker 1>not be facing Randy Orton after pinning him on SmackDown.

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<v Speaker 1>It appears that it will be Bronson Reid versus Roman

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<v Speaker 1>Reigns by far the biggest match of Bronson's career, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's in Perth, so awesome. Yeah, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember exactly what it was, but do you remember when Bronson.

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<v Speaker 5>Something happened killed me during the g one Yeah did

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<v Speaker 5>he Yeah, he had barricade.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a really really big match that was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be taking place on a show in Perth, and

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember what happened broke his foot? No, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it was when he got hurt. I think

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<v Speaker 1>something happened to the other guy, and so like the

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<v Speaker 1>match was never announced, but like I think that they

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<v Speaker 1>were gonna do it, and then so anyway, he had

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<v Speaker 1>this big match and like it got didn't end up

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<v Speaker 1>taking place. So I think this is kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a make good for him, is what I feel.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that for sure, but something something definitely

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<v Speaker 1>happened with Perth last time and then bound for Glory

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<v Speaker 1>Trick and Mike Santana for the TNA title title change everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care what y'all think. Hardy's versus Team three

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<v Speaker 1>D in a tables match?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, is that gonna be? For both titles? Are gonna

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<v Speaker 5>get Bully Ray as ed XT champion?

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<v Speaker 1>Could happen Kilani against Indy Hartwell knockouts title, Leon Slater

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<v Speaker 1>Javon Evans for the X Division title, Frankie and Steve

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<v Speaker 1>Macklin for the International title, a hardcore war Call Your

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<v Speaker 1>Shot Gauntlet match, and Tessa Blanchard She's back against gam Miller.

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<v Speaker 1>We got so much more after the break Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 2>You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 2>and Mike simper beebe on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even get through the whole weekend. I took

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<v Speaker 1>an entire segment. We didn't even get through the whole weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>and we didn't even do like a lot of predictions.

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<v Speaker 1>I do predict Kyle beats Kyle. That's my prediction. We

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<v Speaker 1>also had a King of Pro Wrestling.

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<v Speaker 5>On Horrendous Segue.

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<v Speaker 1>October thirteenth, one of the one of the worst. Brother

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<v Speaker 1>I don't got time to banter. We got too much news.

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Saber Junior Takeshta for the world title. Who you

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<v Speaker 1>thinks will winning that one? Yeah, you're right? Gabe Kid

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<v Speaker 1>and Yoda Suji for the Global title. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>Title Tuesday, except just on Sunday or Monday. Yudo Ice

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<v Speaker 1>an Oscar against Shota Umino.

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<v Speaker 5>And Big Up. Let's get high, brothers.

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<v Speaker 1>You shut up? Bolton oleg against Evil you realize that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think at this point every last single solitary human

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<v Speaker 1>on earth refers to him as Bolton Oleg except Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>who at this point he's all in. This is like Coco,

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<v Speaker 1>where he will write Oleg Bolton until the day he dies.

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<v Speaker 1>Fantasmo against Tanahashi, go to Yoshiyashi and Yo versus Ryo

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<v Speaker 1>hey Uwa, Hartley Jackson and kose Fejeta Drill Malonian is

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<v Speaker 1>not a note EQ no count out and Shingo Horomu

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<v Speaker 1>and Titan against David Finley, Taijishimori and Clark Conners. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the week. That's the week, everybody.

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<v Speaker 5>That sounds like one heck of a wrestling show.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys ready to start watching some wrestling?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh? Speaking of which, a little bit of news on

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<v Speaker 5>the New Japan front, which we might as well get

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<v Speaker 5>to right now. But your main man, Dookie defeated Desperado.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah he did for the with a bunch of interference

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<v Speaker 1>and crap I.

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<v Speaker 5>Hear coming from the House of Torture, who, by the way,

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<v Speaker 5>I love big fan of the House of Torture. I

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<v Speaker 5>wish that they'd take my application a little bit more

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<v Speaker 5>seriously and went off to talk to my boy, you

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<v Speaker 5>Jiro the Tokyo pimp. See if you can hook it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we got some more breaking news here from the

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<v Speaker 1>front page of Wrestling Observer dot com subscriber exclusive. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's out now so you'll all know the you know

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<v Speaker 1>who the final opponent for Johnson is. Have you looked yet?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Gunther has been chosen as a final opponent for John

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<v Speaker 1>Cena December thirteenth, Washington DC. Multiple sources over the last

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<v Speaker 1>two days have confirmed the name. Ww internal listing for

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<v Speaker 1>the Saturday night main event at this point lists that

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<v Speaker 1>as the only match on the show. Two sources of

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<v Speaker 1>confirmed the latest plan is for a tournament to be

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<v Speaker 1>an an Else, possibly on the air by Paulovec, with

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<v Speaker 1>two wrestlers vying to be seen as last appointment top wrestlers.

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<v Speaker 1>Multiple have confirmed. However, however, it reaches a conclusion Gunther

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<v Speaker 1>was the person chosen for the match.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean it follows a pretty you know set

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<v Speaker 5>and tried, a true pattern of the big baby face

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<v Speaker 5>and especially in this case, John Cena representing the USA

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<v Speaker 5>in Washington, d C against the foreign monster the ring general.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only that, but like if I'm John Cena and

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<v Speaker 1>I got one match left, and I want it to

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<v Speaker 1>be a good one. I'm working John Cena Babyface against Gunther.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's gonna be as good as

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<v Speaker 1>that was it the Cody match at Summer Slam. That

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<v Speaker 1>was like he just totally turned it around.

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<v Speaker 5>But I mean, no, there was a I think the

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<v Speaker 5>previous pay per view match that he had had before

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<v Speaker 5>that one was pretty good too, but I don't remember

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<v Speaker 5>exactly what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see what happens, but I'm quite bullish on that

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<v Speaker 1>particular match right there. You know, this actually has nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the wrestling, but I should ask you

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<v Speaker 1>about it because you're a former UFC star. I won't

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<v Speaker 1>say superstar, But so, remember, how wasn't it the White

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<v Speaker 1>House UFC show was going to be on July fourth?

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<v Speaker 5>I believe that was the plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, and granted, you know this is not political,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think that even his biggest supporters would admit

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<v Speaker 1>that sometimes Donald Trump says things that might not be true.

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<v Speaker 1>He did a speech and he said it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>June fourteenth, which is his birthday. Is he making that up? Well?

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<v Speaker 5>No, I mean I believe there's gonna be a big

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<v Speaker 5>celebration for what would it be the by centennial. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know what you'd call it, the two hundred and

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<v Speaker 5>fiftieth year of the United States as a country. And

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<v Speaker 5>maybe it's taking place all summer.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know, but he said the UFC, maybe.

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<v Speaker 5>They're gonna they're gonna hold an event for each day

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<v Speaker 5>that the different states were looking to ratify their state constitutions.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows, well, he said on June fourteenth, next year,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have a big UFC fight at the White

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<v Speaker 1>House on the grounds of the White House. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>he said. So we'll see. Nothing's been officially announced by UFC,

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<v Speaker 1>but it appeared that the date was July fourth Now.

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<v Speaker 5>Yea, Trump says. Trump says, June fourteenth.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes he does.

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<v Speaker 5>Connor McGregor claimed that he was on the show. He said,

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<v Speaker 5>it's a peculiar one, this one. I'm doing the negotiations

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<v Speaker 5>for the country of Ireland along with the USA.

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<v Speaker 1>What in God's name accent was that?

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<v Speaker 5>Was that? Blimey God?

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<v Speaker 1>That was horrible, horrible smashing machine. Have you seen it?

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<v Speaker 5>I have seen the original documentary.

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<v Speaker 1>So you didn't see the new one either, unlike any

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone No.

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<v Speaker 5>You want to know why, because I was busy, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>just like everybody else was this week, I'm doing something else.

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<v Speaker 5>I was busy doing commentary for MLW Saturday night at

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<v Speaker 5>MLW slaughter House.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they should have released the movie on like

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<v Speaker 1>a Tuesday. I think this whole weekend thing, there's just

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<v Speaker 1>too much competition.

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<v Speaker 5>Came out on Thursday. The show a movie, which may

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<v Speaker 5>be another unfamiliar day to you.

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<v Speaker 1>It might be an unfamiliar day. I don't know much

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<v Speaker 1>about Thursdays. Six million dollars on opening weekend. It costs

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<v Speaker 1>fifty million to make it. The first week is always biggest.

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<v Speaker 1>It's basically doing what the Von Eric movie did. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is with the rock starring in this film. And

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't like it was a small open three three

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<v Speaker 1>and forty five venues. It did six million dollars. It

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<v Speaker 1>had been predicted to do up to fifteen million, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's lower. It's the lowest, the lowest open for a

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<v Speaker 1>rock movie ever. It even it even beat as in,

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<v Speaker 1>it did worse than Faster, which did eight point five million,

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<v Speaker 1>which was not adjusted for inflation, so it did much

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<v Speaker 1>worse than that. Movie, so, uh, seventy four percent on

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<v Speaker 1>Rotten Tomatoes.

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<v Speaker 5>He got smashed by the machine that is Taylor Swift.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, at the box office thirty million dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>Back in the day, Heath Herring buried kicks and then

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<v Speaker 5>ground and pound into poor Mark Kerr.

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<v Speaker 1>That one battle after another that was talking about did

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<v Speaker 1>eleven million. So maybe they just got all murdered by

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor Swift and they'll all do better next weekend. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess we'll see. But you know, it's funny because like

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<v Speaker 1>all of the critics are raving about this movie, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're raving about like the Rocks performance. But what I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard from people that like saw the original and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>followed MMA and and know everything about this whole thing,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not as impressed. So I guess we'll have to

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<v Speaker 1>check it out.

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<v Speaker 5>And I mean, from what I understand, it's word for

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<v Speaker 5>word pretty much seen for seeing from the original documentary.

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<v Speaker 5>But hey, I was told it's good. I was told

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<v Speaker 5>I need to go see it, and that's by somebody

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<v Speaker 5>who has very similar interest to me in the game

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<v Speaker 5>of professional wrestling, who I will not name.

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<v Speaker 1>Who would that be.

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<v Speaker 5>On I just told you, I'm not gonna say who

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<v Speaker 5>it was.

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<v Speaker 1>You're legitiate?

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<v Speaker 5>Legitiot? Is that what you called me? That's a pretty

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<v Speaker 5>good term.

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<v Speaker 1>You heard me. That's a legit idiot? Yeah, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>legiti How is Bailey not stolen that yet?

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<v Speaker 5>Bailey?

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<v Speaker 1>I give you permission, but I want if you put

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<v Speaker 1>on a shirt, I do want a cut of a legitiot.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, what else do we have here? Laredo Kid,

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<v Speaker 1>we got a lot of contract notes. Laredo Kid is

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<v Speaker 1>no longer with TNA Wrestling.

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<v Speaker 5>He's grown up.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess finally now he's still a kid, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>moved on. That's what kids do.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought, No, wasn't he just Laredo?

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<v Speaker 1>Actually yeah, well it's weird. I think for a while

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<v Speaker 1>in TNA he was just Laredo, but then when he

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<v Speaker 1>went anywhere else, he was Laredo Kid.

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<v Speaker 5>But whatever is he even from Laredo?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. You can look it up on Wikipedia.

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<v Speaker 1>Cedric Alexander, who I thought just signed deals already up

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently he signed a short term deal. He debuted June twentieth,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess he must have just signed a three

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<v Speaker 1>month deal or whatever. So I don't know. Maybe he

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<v Speaker 1>will end up in the Hurt syndicate. Who knows, but

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<v Speaker 1>his deal is up. And then Santos Escobar is negotiating,

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<v Speaker 1>but we are told things I don't necessarily look promising,

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<v Speaker 1>so he may be gone.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe Connor McGregor is doing the negotiations for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess word came out that Bronson Reid re signed,

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<v Speaker 1>which that's news. That guy would be a maniac to

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<v Speaker 1>go anywhere else. He's one half of the top heel

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<v Speaker 1>group on Raw and getting pushed hard, so obviously he's

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then we got to talk about Mercedes. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't realize this until Lance brought it up because I've

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<v Speaker 1>said many times, like, you know, people comparing this to

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<v Speaker 1>Ultimo Dragon. It's like most people can't even name probably

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<v Speaker 1>nine of the belts she has right now, maybe eight,

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<v Speaker 1>because I guess she has nine. But are you do

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<v Speaker 1>you know what belt she has?

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<v Speaker 5>The TBS title, Yeah, Rev Pro Woman's title, which was

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<v Speaker 5>combined with the EVE Women's title. Is that right?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Anyway, She's got the AWTBS title, the

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<v Speaker 2>You are listening to Wrestling Observer Life with Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 2>and Mike Simpervivi on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

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<v Speaker 1>Alrighty, anyway, these are the bells. She has TBS title,

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<v Speaker 1>CMLL Women's Title rev Pro Undisputed title, which by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>was not the EVE title. Has nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 1>that right now, apparently, accordingy to the chat EWA women's

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<v Speaker 1>title in Austria, the PTW Women's title from Poland, the

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<v Speaker 1>best YAH women's title from Italy, the Queen of Southside title,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the one that was merged with the Rev Pro

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<v Speaker 1>title and the Discovery Wrestling Scottish Women's title. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's here's what's funny, dude, she wants ten. Okay. I

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<v Speaker 1>just rattled off eight. Okay, but of those eight, one

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<v Speaker 1>of them is actually only one title. The Rev Pro

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<v Speaker 1>and the Queen of Southside is one title. But she's

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<v Speaker 1>counting that she's carrying both belts, so she's not at nine.

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<v Speaker 1>She's at eight, like if we're really counting. And then

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<v Speaker 1>on top of that, she's counting the Owen Heart title.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not even a title that's defended. That's a trophy,

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<v Speaker 1>so that shouldn't count. So really, instead of being at nine,

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<v Speaker 1>she's actually at seven because the Owen shouldn't count as

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<v Speaker 1>a title. It's a trophy you won, you don't defend it.

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<v Speaker 5>Brian, Yes, how many of the Ultimo Dragons titles could

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<v Speaker 5>you name?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>Now, none even then, but but back then there were

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<v Speaker 1>so many fewer titles back then that these were actually

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<v Speaker 1>far more prestigious titles. Thank this title, it's not even

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<v Speaker 1>a title with another title.

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<v Speaker 5>I w GP Junior Heavyweight title, a World Junior Heavyweight title,

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<v Speaker 5>cool War International Junior Heavyweight title. War was big, dude,

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<v Speaker 5>British Commonwealth Junior Title big, the British Commonwealth WWF Light

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<v Speaker 5>Heavyweight title, which was an afterthought, never defended, UWA World

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<v Speaker 5>Junior light Heavyweight, World Junior light Heavyweight Title, NWA World

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<v Speaker 5>Walter White title.

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<v Speaker 1>These are all much bigger than the Poland's women's title.

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<v Speaker 1>I realize your wife is Polish. That doesn't matter. That

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't make this belt meaningful. Tom.

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<v Speaker 5>There's some of the strongest fighters in all the world.

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<v Speaker 5>They had the UFC champion for years. You want a

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<v Speaker 5>young j check coming out of that country. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>say they don't have great competitors.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't say that now, sorry.

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<v Speaker 5>That they're not fighting spirit like Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>Buddy, WHOA where are we going?

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<v Speaker 5>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>That's not right?

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<v Speaker 5>You're going down?

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<v Speaker 1>How about this? Can you name everyone in the TNA

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame didn't think so.

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<v Speaker 5>I can give it a shot, go for it and fail.

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<v Speaker 1>Gail Kim Nope, actually she is. Sorry, Mickey James, She's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go in this year.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just gonna start off with the ones that are

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<v Speaker 5>calling out Dave Meltzer. We also have Sting Yeah, aj Styles, Nope,

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<v Speaker 5>no Christian the Dudleys.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Christian was in. Didn't they do that weird

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<v Speaker 1>thing where Christian showed up and looked like he was

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't see him on the list. Team three

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<v Speaker 1>d's there? What the heck? Kiss the story with Christian?

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<v Speaker 1>The announcer, Gosh, Mike Tnay and Don West.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Don West, I'm sorry, that's what I was looking for.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh and uh, I don't know Elix Skipper.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we got Sting, Kurt Angle, Team three D,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Jared and Earl Hebner, Gail kim Abyss, Ken Shamrock,

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome Kong Raven, Mike Tnay and Don Webb, Tracy Brooks, Rhino,

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Ryder. In this year, Mickey James and the Beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>People are going in. What happened with Christian? Remember when

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 1>they borrowed him or something?

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:15.319
<v Speaker 1>I think it was the other way around. Maybe he

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<v Speaker 1>was in TNA and wwe borrowed him. I need to

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<v Speaker 1>I need to look this up. I can't remember, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>anything else. Before we get to the TV, what did

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<v Speaker 1>you think of SmackDown and collision this weekend.

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<v Speaker 5>I enjoyed SmackDown.

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<v Speaker 1>SMACKDA was good.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought it was good. Are we gonna do a

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<v Speaker 5>full review or yeah, I go for it. Okay. We

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<v Speaker 5>started off with Cody Rhodes, the undisputed champion, coming out

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<v Speaker 5>in front of the Cincinnati crowd. He was immediately interrupted

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<v Speaker 5>by one Oracle, the Paul Hayman, flanked by Bronson and

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:54.919
<v Speaker 5>Bron Randy Orton appeared to back up Cody. Hayman tried

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:57.880
<v Speaker 5>to stir dissent between those two, said that it's a

0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 5>prophecy that the two of them cannot last together and

0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:05.320
<v Speaker 5>dropped the mic and left backstage. We had the Miz

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:09.480
<v Speaker 5>approached Carmelo about letting him get pinned by the Street

0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:13.799
<v Speaker 5>Profits last week. Mello was adamant that this team has done,

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<v Speaker 5>but Miz still still try to hold on to the youngster.

0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:21.880
<v Speaker 5>This led to Sammy z Ain's open challenge, where Caamelo

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 5>Hayes came out to answer it, but he was attacked

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:28.759
<v Speaker 5>by the Miz. Alistair Black then came out took the

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:32.360
<v Speaker 5>opportunity for himself, leveled Zane with lots of kicks and

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:35.160
<v Speaker 5>knees left of control for the early portion of the match.

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:38.960
<v Speaker 5>Zaye sent Black to the floor, hit a great Osagi moonsalt,

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<v Speaker 5>but Black back of control with the German souplex. Sammy

0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 5>missed the Halluva kick. Black hit a great Mediora off

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 5>the top for two set up for the Black Mass,

0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:52.400
<v Speaker 5>but Damian Priest walked through the crowd got near the corner.

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<v Speaker 5>This distracted Alistair Black long enough for Sammy's ain to

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<v Speaker 5>land a Halluva kick and the Blue thunder Bomb to

0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 5>get the win. Then Damian Priest yanked Alister Black from

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:07.480
<v Speaker 5>the ring launched him through the announced table with a

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:15.720
<v Speaker 5>razor's edge, and I thought Black looked great here, pretty solid, fundamental, simple,

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 5>effective kicks and knees with his offense, and thought it

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:23.680
<v Speaker 5>was a damn good match. Later on, Damian Priest challenged

0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:24.840
<v Speaker 5>him to it. He's good, But.

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<v Speaker 1>Sammy Zane, this guy's incredible, absolutely incredible. If they keep

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 1>this title on this guy, people are gonna look back

0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:37.760
<v Speaker 1>on this one like that John cena Us Title Open challenge,

0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 1>because this guy's having way better matches. Although the Johnsena

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:44.800
<v Speaker 1>matches were pretty good, but holy smokes, this guy's great.

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 5>This dude, he is gonna get annihilated. By Oba Feme.

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:56.279
<v Speaker 5>That's your prediction, that's my prediction. But until then, I

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 5>think we should see some awesome matches out of him.

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<v Speaker 1>There has to be somebody who has a finish which

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<v Speaker 1>is a counter to the Blue Thunderbomb, because he's changed

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:11.319
<v Speaker 1>his finish to the Blue Thunderbomb, and he didn't do

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:13.400
<v Speaker 1>it first like sometimes people change their finish because they

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:15.879
<v Speaker 1>can't do their old finish. He still does the kick

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:19.319
<v Speaker 1>in the corner, but his new finish is the Blue Thunderbomb.

0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:22.880
<v Speaker 1>And this guy's no idiot. There's like a method to

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 1>this badness. And I'm trying to figure out how is

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 1>this playing in him losing the title because it has

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:30.480
<v Speaker 1>to it's got to be a counter to the Blue Thunderbomb.

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<v Speaker 5>He ain't picking up Omi for it, so that's what

0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:39.040
<v Speaker 5>I is your counter right there. Zaria and sol Ruka

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:42.160
<v Speaker 5>were approached to be part of the Secret Hervist. Instead,

0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:44.880
<v Speaker 5>Nick Alvis made a tag match between the Secret Hervists

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 5>and Zarruka, which Zaruka won. After Chelsea went for the

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:52.880
<v Speaker 5>un prettier, she was pushed into the corner instead soul

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:57.279
<v Speaker 5>hit the soul Snatcher picked up the wind. This is

0:38:57.320 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 5>a attempt to heat them up so they can face

0:38:59.800 --> 0:39:03.560
<v Speaker 5>the Charlotte and Alexa for the titles. Charlotte and Alexa

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:06.439
<v Speaker 5>were backstage with Kathy Kelly after the match. They said

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:10.680
<v Speaker 5>they were impressed. Charlotte tried to get Alexa to woo,

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:15.600
<v Speaker 5>but she wouldn't do it, and Kathy Kelly did it instead.

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:20.600
<v Speaker 5>I liked it. Nick Alvis moderated a contract signing between

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 5>Tiffany Stratton and Stephanie vaquier ahead of their match at

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:27.840
<v Speaker 5>Crown Jewel and Perth this weekend. On one end, you

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:31.920
<v Speaker 5>had Tiffany speaking exactly how we would imagine a robot

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:35.799
<v Speaker 5>in WWE coming out and cutting a promo, and then

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:39.879
<v Speaker 5>you had the exact opposite with Stephanie vakaierr barely being

0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:42.360
<v Speaker 5>able to speak English, which you would never see on

0:39:42.680 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 5>WWE television even years ago. They were cordial with each

0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 5>other despite being competitive. However, Tiffany went to leave Julia

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:54.719
<v Speaker 5>and Kiata James attacked her. They beat her up and

0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:57.440
<v Speaker 5>left her laying. I thought it was pretty funny that

0:39:57.440 --> 0:39:59.880
<v Speaker 5>Stephanie just stood there in the middle of the ring,

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:02.840
<v Speaker 5>so yeah, I guess I'll let this happen. Then Kana

0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:06.560
<v Speaker 5>offered her services to Stephanie as she and the crowd

0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 5>were ambivalent at best. Then Tiffany made a quick comeback

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:11.279
<v Speaker 5>and they cleared the.

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<v Speaker 1>Ring that Tiffany promo dude sucked. My God speaks fluent

0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:19.759
<v Speaker 1>English and it is significantly worse promo than the woman

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 1>who speaks virtually no English, just mechanical.

0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:25.960
<v Speaker 5>Whatever she did, whatever she could have come up with

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<v Speaker 5>on her own, I guarantee would have come off better

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<v Speaker 5>than Yes promo did. Yes, this was paint by the

0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 5>numbers WW Championship promo speak. We then add this is

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<v Speaker 5>for you, buddy. This is a Brian Alvarez segment, Ray

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<v Speaker 5>Finnix and Javon Evans taking on. I believe it's Los Garza,

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<v Speaker 5>but Michael Cole can't get it right, so I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>sure I'm gonna be bothered to either. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 5>if it's Garza Garzaz. They're awesome regardless. Both teams are awesome.

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<v Speaker 5>Both teams showed off with dive sequences at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 5>ending with a big taker dive from Javon before we

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<v Speaker 5>had some advertisements paid for by the following Then they

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<v Speaker 5>got the heat on Evans and I've noticed they did

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<v Speaker 5>this in the main event too, But they get double

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<v Speaker 5>heat in like every tag match. Now have you noticed that, Brian,

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<v Speaker 5>but a switch in the way that the matches are worked.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean sometimes no, I mean yes.

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<v Speaker 5>The past month or two.

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<v Speaker 1>Every in the cases we do the double heat, although

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<v Speaker 1>we did have a match on this show where we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even know comeback. So I like that they.

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<v Speaker 5>Got the heat on. Evans did what I've noticed now

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just reading like I'm a robot.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh.

0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:49.920
<v Speaker 5>Javon got a hot tag. He looked great, flying everywhere.

0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:52.160
<v Speaker 5>A blind tag from Phoenix led to a kickoff the

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<v Speaker 5>ropes from him, followed by Javon leaping over him connecting

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<v Speaker 5>with an og cutter, and then Phoenix sealed the deal

0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:06.239
<v Speaker 5>with the Mexican muscle buster. Oh yeah. And then we

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<v Speaker 5>had Bronton and Bron take on Cody Roads and Randy

0:42:08.719 --> 0:42:11.600
<v Speaker 5>Orton in the main event. Really enjoyed this match too.

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:14.560
<v Speaker 5>I like watching Bron get in there and work with

0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:17.960
<v Speaker 5>some of the veterans like Cody and Orton, see what

0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:19.799
<v Speaker 5>he can do. See him kind of learning on the fly,

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<v Speaker 5>and he looks damn good doing it. They did another

0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:26.240
<v Speaker 5>double heat segment. As I mentioned here, Randy was backdropped

0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:29.160
<v Speaker 5>on the announced table. Then they beat up Cody. Eventually

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:32.800
<v Speaker 5>Bron left off the Apron crashed through the barricade with Cody,

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:38.320
<v Speaker 5>which was awesome. Randy draping DDT Bronson. Paul Hayman climbed

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<v Speaker 5>to the top rope. He was gonna come off with

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<v Speaker 5>a tsunami, I guess to take out Randy, but this

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<v Speaker 5>distracted the ref long enough for Seth Rollins to run

0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 5>in give Randy Orton a stomp, setting up Bronson Reid

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<v Speaker 5>landing the tsunami getting the big pinfall over the viper

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<v Speaker 5>a huge win for Bronson, Reid and afterwards, much to

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<v Speaker 5>the dismay of Paul Hayman, Seth Rolins showed complete disregard

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 5>to Hayman's advice. Hayman's telling him, whatever you're thinking, don't

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:14.560
<v Speaker 5>go back to that ring, don't do it. Rollins pushes

0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:17.920
<v Speaker 5>him aside run back in to stomp Cody legitiate, but

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:22.600
<v Speaker 5>he's met with a crossroads and Hayman's holding back Bronson

0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:25.800
<v Speaker 5>and Bron as Cody stands tall to end the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Got to learn a lesson sometime. I thought that was

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:33.080
<v Speaker 1>a very good show. This this SmackDown, Remember for a while,

0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:34.840
<v Speaker 1>it was just like absolutely atrocious.

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<v Speaker 5>The past couple of weeks.

0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:41.840
<v Speaker 1>It's been better, and it was significantly better than Collision,

0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:45.360
<v Speaker 1>which I was thinking about this because Lance subbed for

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Vinnie last night and you know, he kinda he made

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:52.960
<v Speaker 1>a comment and he was right, and that is that

0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:55.920
<v Speaker 1>it just feels like you're watching a house show. It

0:43:55.960 --> 0:44:00.319
<v Speaker 1>feels like there is a there's a major aw show

0:44:00.400 --> 0:44:04.520
<v Speaker 1>every Wednesday Tuesday this week, and then over the weekend

0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:07.279
<v Speaker 1>they run a house show and we all get to

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:10.080
<v Speaker 1>watch it if we choose to. That's what Collision feels like.

0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:16.239
<v Speaker 1>It's it's I mean, there's never like any big time angles.

0:44:16.320 --> 0:44:20.480
<v Speaker 1>It's always a C show at best, show us to love.

0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 5>You know what show I used to love watching when

0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:25.759
<v Speaker 5>I was younger, What's that WCW Saturday Night And was

0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:28.480
<v Speaker 5>much in the same vein as that you're watching a

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:32.560
<v Speaker 5>three hour house show. But hey, everybody's tasted a little

0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:33.279
<v Speaker 5>bit different, aren't they.

0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Brian, You know, Tom, they really are back in a

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<v Speaker 1>moment Observer Live.

0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:45.840
<v Speaker 2>You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Albarez

0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:50.040
<v Speaker 2>and Mike simpervv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:54.760
<v Speaker 1>And the show Brian Albert is here wrestling Observer Live.

0:44:55.120 --> 0:44:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Mike's not Mike simple vv guilty Tom. Is this really

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<v Speaker 1>the anniversary of the death of Grullaman's Soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>On this day in nineteen ninety nine, Robert James Gino

0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:12.960
<v Speaker 5>Morilla passed away heart failure due to diabetes at the

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<v Speaker 5>age of sixty two.

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<v Speaker 1>You know my two Yeah, I know my memories of Gorilla,

0:45:22.440 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 1>it's always kind of been like up and down, you

0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:26.319
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Because I remember when I was

0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:28.279
<v Speaker 1>a kid, I watched Gorilla and Bobby and I was

0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:32.880
<v Speaker 1>always massively entertained. And then you know, I got a

0:45:32.920 --> 0:45:35.040
<v Speaker 1>little older, and then you start reading The Observer and

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:37.279
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of criticism for Gorilla because of the

0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:40.600
<v Speaker 1>way he called the action. And then you know, you're

0:45:40.640 --> 0:45:43.359
<v Speaker 1>kind of like, you know, he's not wrong. He did

0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:46.480
<v Speaker 1>always do that. And then like I rewatched some of

0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:50.720
<v Speaker 1>the stuff and it's like you rewatch it and some days,

0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:54.239
<v Speaker 1>some days it's like what is this guy saying? Like

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:58.000
<v Speaker 1>goll ye, the guy might submit like make me believe

0:45:58.120 --> 0:46:01.439
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, But then other day you just watching it's like, nah,

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:04.520
<v Speaker 1>he was a perfect Grulla Monsoon. He was just perfect

0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:06.760
<v Speaker 1>in his role. So I go up and down depending

0:46:06.800 --> 0:46:07.600
<v Speaker 1>on the show I watch.

0:46:08.000 --> 0:46:09.680
<v Speaker 5>Very similar to your feelings on Booker T.

0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Kind of, I'm more positive than negative on Booker. I

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:16.879
<v Speaker 1>think it's more about it's more like Vic. I'm very

0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:19.279
<v Speaker 1>up and down on is very over the top. He

0:46:19.400 --> 0:46:22.279
<v Speaker 1>is over the top, but I think that, but.

0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 5>You know, I think he's been great on SmackDown.

0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:28.160
<v Speaker 1>I Hey, you know what's funny. I I enjoy Booker T.

0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:31.520
<v Speaker 1>And I know people that absolutely think this guy is

0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:36.520
<v Speaker 1>the dirt worst. So it's a I don't know, you'd

0:46:36.520 --> 0:46:38.960
<v Speaker 1>probably think we're the dirt worst too, But anyway, we're

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<v Speaker 1>out of everybody. I'll be back tonight with Dave Tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>year on this show with Lance. We got a lot

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