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Speaker 1: crazy week, is it ever? All right? So here's what
Speaker 1: we got. We got a whole bunch of shows coming up,
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Speaker 1: at this point is what's going on. We'll give you
Speaker 1: a lineup for both shows. They've announced a lot of things.
Speaker 1: We've also got Raw coming up tonight for matches announced
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Speaker 1: Mag of the show, Bran Albert is here Wrestling Observer Alive.
Speaker 1: Filthy Tom Lawler is joining us here today. We got
Speaker 1: a lot I get into. What are you doing over there?
Speaker 5: I'm all tangled up, just like the world of professional
Speaker 5: wrestling always is.
Speaker 1: God I can't even do the opening segment. It's just
Speaker 1: like I try and then I get lost. There's just
Speaker 1: so much stuff going on, so very quickly. Raw is tonight.
Speaker 1: It's Becky Lynch versus Maxine dupri lyra versus Rock Sand
Speaker 1: What and Yeah, lyra versus Roxane, Becky versus Maxine. What's happening?
Speaker 1: Seam Punk will make an appearance in Roman Reigns kicks
Speaker 1: off the show. This is the Raw go home for Perth,
Speaker 1: which is Saturday.
Speaker 5: Okay, brother, I gotta tell you this earlier start time
Speaker 5: for Raw.
Speaker 1: It's not happening tonight.
Speaker 5: Is it on the same time or is it on
Speaker 5: even earlier?
Speaker 1: Right now, I think it's on at eight tonight. I
Speaker 1: think it's on at eight from now on, except I
Speaker 1: think there's two dates coming up. I forget the dates
Speaker 1: that are scheduled to be seven o'clock. But whatever you
Speaker 1: want to say about formulas and everything for the Raw ratings,
Speaker 1: the actual numbers that Netflix gives every week, which whether
Speaker 1: they're real or fake, I don't know. These seven o'clock
Speaker 1: shows have died, so I would not be surprised if
Speaker 1: they move it back to eight o'clock and we never
Speaker 1: see seven o'clock again, I would actually prefer it, but
Speaker 1: I think tonight is eight o'clock. So then we've got
Speaker 1: NXT versus TNA tomorrow, And as I predicted here on
Speaker 1: this program, they have added Joe Hendry as referee for
Speaker 1: the men's Survivor Series match and Jordan Grace as referee
Speaker 1: for the women's because they skate the line, you know
Speaker 1: they're unbiased. So tmnxt is really says Trick Williams, Miles
Speaker 1: Bourne and Javon against Mike Santana, Frankie Kazarian, Moose and
Speaker 1: Leon Slater. Team NXT women is j C Solruka, Jaden
Speaker 1: Lolovis versus Kalani the Inspiration, who are the new Knockouts
Speaker 1: Tag Team Champions and Mara Shade. Then we've got NXT
Speaker 1: Tag Team Champions, Dark State versus t and a Tag
Speaker 1: Team Champions of Hardy's Title for title. All belts on
Speaker 1: the line.
Speaker 5: Please Yeah, I'm never not since the nineties have I
Speaker 5: wanted the Hardies to win a match so badly.
Speaker 1: And then we've got Ethan Page against Mustafa Ali for
Speaker 1: the North American title. So that's the NXT show going
Speaker 1: head to head with title Tuesday which in fact has
Speaker 1: almost no title matches on it. That guy, by the way,
Speaker 1: mad at me on Twitter. I'm still laughing about that one.
Speaker 1: He was sure that the Brodido match was for the
Speaker 1: titles and I was wrong.
Speaker 5: Well rightfully, so he's sure I wasn't.
Speaker 1: Now I do actually for no reason.
Speaker 5: I do like the stipulation at least, but not on
Speaker 5: Title Tuesday. You could have done on any other show, right,
Speaker 5: that could have been on Collision. But Title Tuesday, you
Speaker 5: get a non title tag match.
Speaker 1: Well, are two title matches are too?
Speaker 5: Did they? They should have just done the whole the
Speaker 5: woman's tag title tournament on Title Tuesday.
Speaker 1: You know they probably could have, but and it is
Speaker 1: a two and a half hour show. You could have
Speaker 1: done the women's tag title tournament if you wanted to,
Speaker 1: but instead the two title matches. Please keep calm. We
Speaker 1: have got Mercedes Monette against a local wrestler from Florida,
Speaker 1: which I still believe is gonna be easy because that
Speaker 1: famous moment where Mercedes made easy cry was apparently ten
Speaker 1: years prior to the day to the day, and Tony
Speaker 1: likes those anniversary I don't know for sure, but the
Speaker 1: other massive title match, get your bets in now Kyle
Speaker 1: Fletcher will be defending the T and T title against
Speaker 1: Kyle O'Reilly. We've also got Orange Cassidy I swear to god.
Speaker 1: We got Orange Cassie versus Pak, which is not for
Speaker 1: a title. We got The Demand versus the Hurt Syndicate
Speaker 1: in a street fight, which is not for a title.
Speaker 1: We have John Moxley and a Shee, which should be frickin' awesome,
Speaker 1: but it's not for a title. We have Jurassic Express
Speaker 1: and Action, not for a title. We have Samoa chon
Speaker 1: Hangman Page face to Face, which will be for a
Speaker 1: title on a different date. And we have Broddo versus
Speaker 1: Ocada and Takeshta, not in a title match. However, it
Speaker 1: is a double Jeopardy match, so if either Okada or
Speaker 1: Takeshta gets pinned, I guess Ocad has to defend his
Speaker 1: titles against whoever did it, and if Ocata and Takeshta win,
Speaker 1: they will get a tag title shot. Not on title Tuesday. Guys,
Speaker 1: got all that all right, because I'm totally lost, And
Speaker 1: then we got Collision. This is on Wednesday taped, but
Speaker 1: we'll not air Wednesday, will air this weekend because what
Speaker 1: they really need to do is air the show this weekend.
Speaker 1: Coda Boushie versus Josh Alexander, Max Cats and Anthony Bowenes
Speaker 1: versus Big Bill and Brian Keith. God Help Me, Eddie
Speaker 1: Kingston versus Morta's Chris Statlander, Tony Storm and Harley versus
Speaker 1: The Triangle of Madness FTR and Megan Bain versus Jet
Speaker 1: Speed and Willow Nightingale and ty j in Action. If
Speaker 1: anybody can explain to me a logical reason why this
Speaker 1: a collision homecoming show doesn't just air on Wednesday, I
Speaker 1: would love to hear it.
Speaker 5: It's preempted by the NHL.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, that's why. Oh that's right, that's why
Speaker 1: you got me. Not Thursday. Then this show is going
Speaker 1: to die this weekend.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: Mmmm well, then we got the go home show for
Speaker 1: Bound for Glory on Thursday. Joe Hendry, Eric Young, nod Q,
Speaker 1: Most of All Le versus j d C, Matt Cardono
Speaker 1: versus Ryan Namath, Trick Williams appears, and Leon Slater appears
Speaker 1: SmackDown as Sammy z Ain's Open Challenge the best thing
Speaker 1: on any show. Damian Priestylist for Black Last man.
Speaker 5: Start, Oh, you'll change your mind once there's a EO
Speaker 5: and Oscar segment tonight, and that's spot That'll be the
Speaker 5: best thing on any show.
Speaker 1: Just hold on. I said that was the best storyline.
Speaker 5: That's fine. You just said the best thing a second ago.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, this is I.
Speaker 5: I woke up and I had to read that Sammy
Speaker 5: z Ain. You guys are saying Sammy's Ain's having the
Speaker 5: best match on every show, not when he Sky's wrestling baby.
Speaker 1: I said, his entire career, he's always had the best
Speaker 1: match on every show, and Sky is on a different show.
Speaker 1: So in fact, I'm now anyway, then back down, we
Speaker 1: got the Sammy's and Joe Gacy and Dexter Loomis against
Speaker 1: montes Ford and Angelo Dawkins for the tag titles. That
Speaker 1: better be a title change. This has run split up,
Speaker 1: This has run its score. They just split up Mizz
Speaker 1: and Mellow Dude. They can't do two straight weeks to
Speaker 1: split up.
Speaker 5: Oh they can't.
Speaker 1: No, I think they're teasing a split up and they're
Speaker 1: actually gonna win the titles.
Speaker 5: Didn't they just do that over the summer.
Speaker 1: I think they did.
Speaker 5: I think they lost them.
Speaker 1: I think they.
Speaker 5: Did in the ladder match, didn't they I think? So,
Speaker 5: Oh my god, they're just gonna run it back, run back.
Speaker 1: I guess you could break up two straight teams on
Speaker 1: two straight weekends, Wyatt, that's the one that should Well.
Speaker 1: I don't know what are they gonna do separately?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you know I would like to see Uncle
Speaker 5: Howdy and the Vintner.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they titles Julian Keana versus Tiffany Stratton and
Speaker 1: Stephanie Vicaer also on the show. So for Crown Jewel,
Speaker 1: we have some breaking news here. We have got Cody
Speaker 1: and Seth for the Men's Jewel title. We have Tiffany
Speaker 1: and Stephanie for the Women's Crown Jewel title. John Cena
Speaker 1: versus aj Styles, Rhea Ripley and eoversus the Kabuki Warriors.
Speaker 1: And it has not been announced, but Bronson Reid will
Speaker 1: not be facing Randy Orton after pinning him on SmackDown.
Speaker 1: It appears that it will be Bronson Reid versus Roman
Speaker 1: Reigns by far the biggest match of Bronson's career, and
Speaker 1: it's in Perth, so awesome. Yeah, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: remember exactly what it was, but do you remember when Bronson.
Speaker 5: Something happened killed me during the g one Yeah did
Speaker 5: he Yeah, he had barricade.
Speaker 1: He had a really really big match that was going
Speaker 1: to be taking place on a show in Perth, and
Speaker 1: I can't remember what happened broke his foot? No, I
Speaker 1: don't think it was when he got hurt. I think
Speaker 1: something happened to the other guy, and so like the
Speaker 1: match was never announced, but like I think that they
Speaker 1: were gonna do it, and then so anyway, he had
Speaker 1: this big match and like it got didn't end up
Speaker 1: taking place. So I think this is kind of like
Speaker 1: sort of a make good for him, is what I feel.
Speaker 1: I don't know that for sure, but something something definitely
Speaker 1: happened with Perth last time and then bound for Glory
Speaker 1: Trick and Mike Santana for the TNA title title change everybody,
Speaker 1: I don't care what y'all think. Hardy's versus Team three
Speaker 1: D in a tables match?
Speaker 5: Oh, is that gonna be? For both titles? Are gonna
Speaker 5: get Bully Ray as ed XT champion?
Speaker 1: Could happen Kilani against Indy Hartwell knockouts title, Leon Slater
Speaker 1: Javon Evans for the X Division title, Frankie and Steve
Speaker 1: Macklin for the International title, a hardcore war Call Your
Speaker 1: Shot Gauntlet match, and Tessa Blanchard She's back against gam Miller.
Speaker 1: We got so much more after the break Observer Live.
Speaker 2: You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez
Speaker 2: and Mike simper beebe on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 1: I didn't even get through the whole weekend. I took
Speaker 1: an entire segment. We didn't even get through the whole weekend,
Speaker 1: and we didn't even do like a lot of predictions.
Speaker 1: I do predict Kyle beats Kyle. That's my prediction. We
Speaker 1: also had a King of Pro Wrestling.
Speaker 5: On Horrendous Segue.
Speaker 1: October thirteenth, one of the one of the worst. Brother
Speaker 1: I don't got time to banter. We got too much news.
Speaker 1: Zach Saber Junior Takeshta for the world title. Who you
Speaker 1: thinks will winning that one? Yeah, you're right? Gabe Kid
Speaker 1: and Yoda Suji for the Global title. This is a
Speaker 1: Title Tuesday, except just on Sunday or Monday. Yudo Ice
Speaker 1: an Oscar against Shota Umino.
Speaker 5: And Big Up. Let's get high, brothers.
Speaker 1: You shut up? Bolton oleg against Evil you realize that.
Speaker 1: I think at this point every last single solitary human
Speaker 1: on earth refers to him as Bolton Oleg except Dave,
Speaker 1: who at this point he's all in. This is like Coco,
Speaker 1: where he will write Oleg Bolton until the day he dies.
Speaker 1: Fantasmo against Tanahashi, go to Yoshiyashi and Yo versus Ryo
Speaker 1: hey Uwa, Hartley Jackson and kose Fejeta Drill Malonian is
Speaker 1: not a note EQ no count out and Shingo Horomu
Speaker 1: and Titan against David Finley, Taijishimori and Clark Conners. That's
Speaker 1: the week. That's the week, everybody.
Speaker 5: That sounds like one heck of a wrestling show.
Speaker 1: You guys ready to start watching some wrestling?
Speaker 5: Oh? Speaking of which, a little bit of news on
Speaker 5: the New Japan front, which we might as well get
Speaker 5: to right now. But your main man, Dookie defeated Desperado.
Speaker 1: Yeah he did for the with a bunch of interference
Speaker 1: and crap I.
Speaker 5: Hear coming from the House of Torture, who, by the way,
Speaker 5: I love big fan of the House of Torture. I
Speaker 5: wish that they'd take my application a little bit more
Speaker 5: seriously and went off to talk to my boy, you
Speaker 5: Jiro the Tokyo pimp. See if you can hook it up.
Speaker 1: Okay, we got some more breaking news here from the
Speaker 1: front page of Wrestling Observer dot com subscriber exclusive. But
Speaker 1: it's out now so you'll all know the you know
Speaker 1: who the final opponent for Johnson is. Have you looked yet?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Gunther has been chosen as a final opponent for John
Speaker 1: Cena December thirteenth, Washington DC. Multiple sources over the last
Speaker 1: two days have confirmed the name. Ww internal listing for
Speaker 1: the Saturday night main event at this point lists that
Speaker 1: as the only match on the show. Two sources of
Speaker 1: confirmed the latest plan is for a tournament to be
Speaker 1: an an Else, possibly on the air by Paulovec, with
Speaker 1: two wrestlers vying to be seen as last appointment top wrestlers.
Speaker 1: Multiple have confirmed. However, however, it reaches a conclusion Gunther
Speaker 1: was the person chosen for the match.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean it follows a pretty you know set
Speaker 5: and tried, a true pattern of the big baby face
Speaker 5: and especially in this case, John Cena representing the USA
Speaker 5: in Washington, d C against the foreign monster the ring general.
Speaker 1: Not only that, but like if I'm John Cena and
Speaker 1: I got one match left, and I want it to
Speaker 1: be a good one. I'm working John Cena Babyface against Gunther.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's gonna be as good as
Speaker 1: that was it the Cody match at Summer Slam. That
Speaker 1: was like he just totally turned it around.
Speaker 5: But I mean, no, there was a I think the
Speaker 5: previous pay per view match that he had had before
Speaker 5: that one was pretty good too, but I don't remember
Speaker 5: exactly what it was.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens, but I'm quite bullish on that
Speaker 1: particular match right there. You know, this actually has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with the wrestling, but I should ask you
Speaker 1: about it because you're a former UFC star. I won't
Speaker 1: say superstar, But so, remember, how wasn't it the White
Speaker 1: House UFC show was going to be on July fourth?
Speaker 5: I believe that was the plan.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, and granted, you know this is not political,
Speaker 1: but I think that even his biggest supporters would admit
Speaker 1: that sometimes Donald Trump says things that might not be true.
Speaker 1: He did a speech and he said it's gonna be
Speaker 1: June fourteenth, which is his birthday. Is he making that up? Well?
Speaker 5: No, I mean I believe there's gonna be a big
Speaker 5: celebration for what would it be the by centennial. I
Speaker 5: don't know what you'd call it, the two hundred and
Speaker 5: fiftieth year of the United States as a country. And
Speaker 5: maybe it's taking place all summer.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, but he said the UFC, maybe.
Speaker 5: They're gonna they're gonna hold an event for each day
Speaker 5: that the different states were looking to ratify their state constitutions.
Speaker 1: Who knows, well, he said on June fourteenth, next year,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a big UFC fight at the White
Speaker 1: House on the grounds of the White House. That's what
Speaker 1: he said. So we'll see. Nothing's been officially announced by UFC,
Speaker 1: but it appeared that the date was July fourth Now.
Speaker 5: Yea, Trump says. Trump says, June fourteenth.
Speaker 1: Yes he does.
Speaker 5: Connor McGregor claimed that he was on the show. He said,
Speaker 5: it's a peculiar one, this one. I'm doing the negotiations
Speaker 5: for the country of Ireland along with the USA.
Speaker 1: What in God's name accent was that?
Speaker 5: Was that? Blimey God?
Speaker 1: That was horrible, horrible smashing machine. Have you seen it?
Speaker 5: I have seen the original documentary.
Speaker 1: So you didn't see the new one either, unlike any
Speaker 1: like everyone No.
Speaker 5: You want to know why, because I was busy, Yeah,
Speaker 5: just like everybody else was this week, I'm doing something else.
Speaker 5: I was busy doing commentary for MLW Saturday night at
Speaker 5: MLW slaughter House.
Speaker 1: I think they should have released the movie on like
Speaker 1: a Tuesday. I think this whole weekend thing, there's just
Speaker 1: too much competition.
Speaker 5: Came out on Thursday. The show a movie, which may
Speaker 5: be another unfamiliar day to you.
Speaker 1: It might be an unfamiliar day. I don't know much
Speaker 1: about Thursdays. Six million dollars on opening weekend. It costs
Speaker 1: fifty million to make it. The first week is always biggest.
Speaker 1: It's basically doing what the Von Eric movie did. And
Speaker 1: this is with the rock starring in this film. And
Speaker 1: it wasn't like it was a small open three three
Speaker 1: and forty five venues. It did six million dollars. It
Speaker 1: had been predicted to do up to fifteen million, and
Speaker 1: it's lower. It's the lowest, the lowest open for a
Speaker 1: rock movie ever. It even it even beat as in,
Speaker 1: it did worse than Faster, which did eight point five million,
Speaker 1: which was not adjusted for inflation, so it did much
Speaker 1: worse than that. Movie, so, uh, seventy four percent on
Speaker 1: Rotten Tomatoes.
Speaker 5: He got smashed by the machine that is Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at the box office thirty million dollars.
Speaker 5: Back in the day, Heath Herring buried kicks and then
Speaker 5: ground and pound into poor Mark Kerr.
Speaker 1: That one battle after another that was talking about did
Speaker 1: eleven million. So maybe they just got all murdered by
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift and they'll all do better next weekend. I
Speaker 1: guess we'll see. But you know, it's funny because like
Speaker 1: all of the critics are raving about this movie, and
Speaker 1: they're raving about like the Rocks performance. But what I've
Speaker 1: heard from people that like saw the original and you know,
Speaker 1: followed MMA and and know everything about this whole thing,
Speaker 1: they're not as impressed. So I guess we'll have to
Speaker 1: check it out.
Speaker 5: And I mean, from what I understand, it's word for
Speaker 5: word pretty much seen for seeing from the original documentary.
Speaker 5: But hey, I was told it's good. I was told
Speaker 5: I need to go see it, and that's by somebody
Speaker 5: who has very similar interest to me in the game
Speaker 5: of professional wrestling, who I will not name.
Speaker 1: Who would that be.
Speaker 5: On I just told you, I'm not gonna say who
Speaker 5: it was.
Speaker 1: You're legitiate?
Speaker 5: Legitiot? Is that what you called me? That's a pretty
Speaker 5: good term.
Speaker 1: You heard me. That's a legit idiot? Yeah, thank you,
Speaker 1: legiti How is Bailey not stolen that yet?
Speaker 5: Bailey?
Speaker 1: I give you permission, but I want if you put
Speaker 1: on a shirt, I do want a cut of a legitiot.
Speaker 1: All right, what else do we have here? Laredo Kid,
Speaker 1: we got a lot of contract notes. Laredo Kid is
Speaker 1: no longer with TNA Wrestling.
Speaker 5: He's grown up.
Speaker 1: I guess finally now he's still a kid, but he's
Speaker 1: moved on. That's what kids do.
Speaker 5: I thought, No, wasn't he just Laredo?
Speaker 1: Actually yeah, well it's weird. I think for a while
Speaker 1: in TNA he was just Laredo, but then when he
Speaker 1: went anywhere else, he was Laredo Kid.
Speaker 5: But whatever is he even from Laredo?
Speaker 1: I don't know. You can look it up on Wikipedia.
Speaker 1: Cedric Alexander, who I thought just signed deals already up
Speaker 1: Apparently he signed a short term deal. He debuted June twentieth,
Speaker 1: and I guess he must have just signed a three
Speaker 1: month deal or whatever. So I don't know. Maybe he
Speaker 1: will end up in the Hurt syndicate. Who knows, but
Speaker 1: his deal is up. And then Santos Escobar is negotiating,
Speaker 1: but we are told things I don't necessarily look promising,
Speaker 1: so he may be gone.
Speaker 5: Maybe Connor McGregor is doing the negotiations for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess word came out that Bronson Reid re signed,
Speaker 1: which that's news. That guy would be a maniac to
Speaker 1: go anywhere else. He's one half of the top heel
Speaker 1: group on Raw and getting pushed hard, so obviously he's
Speaker 1: sticking around.
Speaker 5: They should play up him being like one of the
Speaker 5: only people to pin Okada over the past five years
Speaker 5: ten years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we got to talk about Mercedes. I
Speaker 1: didn't realize this until Lance brought it up because I've
Speaker 1: said many times, like, you know, people comparing this to
Speaker 1: Ultimo Dragon. It's like most people can't even name probably
Speaker 1: nine of the belts she has right now, maybe eight,
Speaker 1: because I guess she has nine. But are you do
Speaker 1: you know what belt she has?
Speaker 5: The TBS title, Yeah, Rev Pro Woman's title, which was
Speaker 5: combined with the EVE Women's title. Is that right?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Anyway, She's got the AWTBS title, the
Speaker 1: cmll I guess I'll do after the break. You guys
Speaker 1: think during the break if you can name all nine
Speaker 1: of her titles back in the moment it were light.
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Speaker 2: You are listening to Wrestling Observer Life with Brian Alvarez
Speaker 2: and Mike Simpervivi on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 1: Alrighty, anyway, these are the bells. She has TBS title,
Speaker 1: CMLL Women's Title rev Pro Undisputed title, which by the way,
Speaker 1: was not the EVE title. Has nothing to do with
Speaker 1: that right now, apparently, accordingy to the chat EWA women's
Speaker 1: title in Austria, the PTW Women's title from Poland, the
Speaker 1: best YAH women's title from Italy, the Queen of Southside title,
Speaker 1: that's the one that was merged with the Rev Pro
Speaker 1: title and the Discovery Wrestling Scottish Women's title. Okay, so
Speaker 1: that's here's what's funny, dude, she wants ten. Okay. I
Speaker 1: just rattled off eight. Okay, but of those eight, one
Speaker 1: of them is actually only one title. The Rev Pro
Speaker 1: and the Queen of Southside is one title. But she's
Speaker 1: counting that she's carrying both belts, so she's not at nine.
Speaker 1: She's at eight, like if we're really counting. And then
Speaker 1: on top of that, she's counting the Owen Heart title.
Speaker 1: That's not even a title that's defended. That's a trophy,
Speaker 1: so that shouldn't count. So really, instead of being at nine,
Speaker 1: she's actually at seven because the Owen shouldn't count as
Speaker 1: a title. It's a trophy you won, you don't defend it.
Speaker 5: Brian, Yes, how many of the Ultimo Dragons titles could
Speaker 5: you name?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: Now, none even then, but but back then there were
Speaker 1: so many fewer titles back then that these were actually
Speaker 1: far more prestigious titles. Thank this title, it's not even
Speaker 1: a title with another title.
Speaker 5: I w GP Junior Heavyweight title, a World Junior Heavyweight title,
Speaker 5: cool War International Junior Heavyweight title. War was big, dude,
Speaker 5: British Commonwealth Junior Title big, the British Commonwealth WWF Light
Speaker 5: Heavyweight title, which was an afterthought, never defended, UWA World
Speaker 5: Junior light Heavyweight, World Junior light Heavyweight Title, NWA World
Speaker 5: Walter White title.
Speaker 1: These are all much bigger than the Poland's women's title.
Speaker 1: I realize your wife is Polish. That doesn't matter. That
Speaker 1: doesn't make this belt meaningful. Tom.
Speaker 5: There's some of the strongest fighters in all the world.
Speaker 5: They had the UFC champion for years. You want a
Speaker 5: young j check coming out of that country. You're gonna
Speaker 5: say they don't have great competitors.
Speaker 1: I didn't say that now, sorry.
Speaker 5: That they're not fighting spirit like Mexico.
Speaker 1: Buddy, WHOA where are we going?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 1: That's not right?
Speaker 5: You're going down?
Speaker 1: How about this? Can you name everyone in the TNA
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame didn't think so.
Speaker 5: I can give it a shot, go for it and fail.
Speaker 1: Gail Kim Nope, actually she is. Sorry, Mickey James, She's
Speaker 1: gonna go in this year.
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna start off with the ones that are
Speaker 5: calling out Dave Meltzer. We also have Sting Yeah, aj Styles, Nope,
Speaker 5: no Christian the Dudleys.
Speaker 1: I thought Christian was in. Didn't they do that weird
Speaker 1: thing where Christian showed up and looked like he was
Speaker 1: But I don't see him on the list. Team three
Speaker 1: d's there? What the heck? Kiss the story with Christian?
Speaker 1: The announcer, Gosh, Mike Tnay and Don West.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Don West, I'm sorry, that's what I was looking for.
Speaker 5: Uh and uh, I don't know Elix Skipper.
Speaker 1: All right, we got Sting, Kurt Angle, Team three D,
Speaker 1: Jeff Jared and Earl Hebner, Gail kim Abyss, Ken Shamrock,
Speaker 1: Awesome Kong Raven, Mike Tnay and Don Webb, Tracy Brooks, Rhino,
Speaker 1: Bob Ryder. In this year, Mickey James and the Beautiful
Speaker 1: People are going in. What happened with Christian? Remember when
Speaker 1: they borrowed him or something?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think it was the other way around. Maybe he
Speaker 1: was in TNA and wwe borrowed him. I need to
Speaker 1: I need to look this up. I can't remember, all right,
Speaker 1: anything else. Before we get to the TV, what did
Speaker 1: you think of SmackDown and collision this weekend.
Speaker 5: I enjoyed SmackDown.
Speaker 1: SMACKDA was good.
Speaker 5: I thought it was good. Are we gonna do a
Speaker 5: full review or yeah, I go for it. Okay. We
Speaker 5: started off with Cody Rhodes, the undisputed champion, coming out
Speaker 5: in front of the Cincinnati crowd. He was immediately interrupted
Speaker 5: by one Oracle, the Paul Hayman, flanked by Bronson and
Speaker 5: Bron Randy Orton appeared to back up Cody. Hayman tried
Speaker 5: to stir dissent between those two, said that it's a
Speaker 5: prophecy that the two of them cannot last together and
Speaker 5: dropped the mic and left backstage. We had the Miz
Speaker 5: approached Carmelo about letting him get pinned by the Street
Speaker 5: Profits last week. Mello was adamant that this team has done,
Speaker 5: but Miz still still try to hold on to the youngster.
Speaker 5: This led to Sammy z Ain's open challenge, where Caamelo
Speaker 5: Hayes came out to answer it, but he was attacked
Speaker 5: by the Miz. Alistair Black then came out took the
Speaker 5: opportunity for himself, leveled Zane with lots of kicks and
Speaker 5: knees left of control for the early portion of the match.
Speaker 5: Zaye sent Black to the floor, hit a great Osagi moonsalt,
Speaker 5: but Black back of control with the German souplex. Sammy
Speaker 5: missed the Halluva kick. Black hit a great Mediora off
Speaker 5: the top for two set up for the Black Mass,
Speaker 5: but Damian Priest walked through the crowd got near the corner.
Speaker 5: This distracted Alistair Black long enough for Sammy's ain to
Speaker 5: land a Halluva kick and the Blue thunder Bomb to
Speaker 5: get the win. Then Damian Priest yanked Alister Black from
Speaker 5: the ring launched him through the announced table with a
Speaker 5: razor's edge, and I thought Black looked great here, pretty solid, fundamental, simple,
Speaker 5: effective kicks and knees with his offense, and thought it
Speaker 5: was a damn good match. Later on, Damian Priest challenged
Speaker 5: him to it. He's good, But.
Speaker 1: Sammy Zane, this guy's incredible, absolutely incredible. If they keep
Speaker 1: this title on this guy, people are gonna look back
Speaker 1: on this one like that John cena Us Title Open challenge,
Speaker 1: because this guy's having way better matches. Although the Johnsena
Speaker 1: matches were pretty good, but holy smokes, this guy's great.
Speaker 5: This dude, he is gonna get annihilated. By Oba Feme.
Speaker 5: That's your prediction, that's my prediction. But until then, I
Speaker 5: think we should see some awesome matches out of him.
Speaker 1: There has to be somebody who has a finish which
Speaker 1: is a counter to the Blue Thunderbomb, because he's changed
Speaker 1: his finish to the Blue Thunderbomb, and he didn't do
Speaker 1: it first like sometimes people change their finish because they
Speaker 1: can't do their old finish. He still does the kick
Speaker 1: in the corner, but his new finish is the Blue Thunderbomb.
Speaker 1: And this guy's no idiot. There's like a method to
Speaker 1: this badness. And I'm trying to figure out how is
Speaker 1: this playing in him losing the title because it has
Speaker 1: to it's got to be a counter to the Blue Thunderbomb.
Speaker 5: He ain't picking up Omi for it, so that's what
Speaker 5: I is your counter right there. Zaria and sol Ruka
Speaker 5: were approached to be part of the Secret Hervist. Instead,
Speaker 5: Nick Alvis made a tag match between the Secret Hervists
Speaker 5: and Zarruka, which Zaruka won. After Chelsea went for the
Speaker 5: un prettier, she was pushed into the corner instead soul
Speaker 5: hit the soul Snatcher picked up the wind. This is
Speaker 5: a attempt to heat them up so they can face
Speaker 5: the Charlotte and Alexa for the titles. Charlotte and Alexa
Speaker 5: were backstage with Kathy Kelly after the match. They said
Speaker 5: they were impressed. Charlotte tried to get Alexa to woo,
Speaker 5: but she wouldn't do it, and Kathy Kelly did it instead.
Speaker 5: I liked it. Nick Alvis moderated a contract signing between
Speaker 5: Tiffany Stratton and Stephanie vaquier ahead of their match at
Speaker 5: Crown Jewel and Perth this weekend. On one end, you
Speaker 5: had Tiffany speaking exactly how we would imagine a robot
Speaker 5: in WWE coming out and cutting a promo, and then
Speaker 5: you had the exact opposite with Stephanie vakaierr barely being
Speaker 5: able to speak English, which you would never see on
Speaker 5: WWE television even years ago. They were cordial with each
Speaker 5: other despite being competitive. However, Tiffany went to leave Julia
Speaker 5: and Kiata James attacked her. They beat her up and
Speaker 5: left her laying. I thought it was pretty funny that
Speaker 5: Stephanie just stood there in the middle of the ring,
Speaker 5: so yeah, I guess I'll let this happen. Then Kana
Speaker 5: offered her services to Stephanie as she and the crowd
Speaker 5: were ambivalent at best. Then Tiffany made a quick comeback
Speaker 5: and they cleared the.
Speaker 1: Ring that Tiffany promo dude sucked. My God speaks fluent
Speaker 1: English and it is significantly worse promo than the woman
Speaker 1: who speaks virtually no English, just mechanical.
Speaker 5: Whatever she did, whatever she could have come up with
Speaker 5: on her own, I guarantee would have come off better
Speaker 5: than Yes promo did. Yes, this was paint by the
Speaker 5: numbers WW Championship promo speak. We then add this is
Speaker 5: for you, buddy. This is a Brian Alvarez segment, Ray
Speaker 5: Finnix and Javon Evans taking on. I believe it's Los Garza,
Speaker 5: but Michael Cole can't get it right, so I'm not
Speaker 5: sure I'm gonna be bothered to either. I'm not sure
Speaker 5: if it's Garza Garzaz. They're awesome regardless. Both teams are awesome.
Speaker 5: Both teams showed off with dive sequences at the beginning,
Speaker 5: ending with a big taker dive from Javon before we
Speaker 5: had some advertisements paid for by the following Then they
Speaker 5: got the heat on Evans and I've noticed they did
Speaker 5: this in the main event too, But they get double
Speaker 5: heat in like every tag match. Now have you noticed that, Brian,
Speaker 5: but a switch in the way that the matches are worked.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean sometimes no, I mean yes.
Speaker 5: The past month or two.
Speaker 1: Every in the cases we do the double heat, although
Speaker 1: we did have a match on this show where we
Speaker 1: didn't even know comeback. So I like that they.
Speaker 5: Got the heat on. Evans did what I've noticed now
Speaker 5: I'm just reading like I'm a robot.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 5: Javon got a hot tag. He looked great, flying everywhere.
Speaker 5: A blind tag from Phoenix led to a kickoff the
Speaker 5: ropes from him, followed by Javon leaping over him connecting
Speaker 5: with an og cutter, and then Phoenix sealed the deal
Speaker 5: with the Mexican muscle buster. Oh yeah. And then we
Speaker 5: had Bronton and Bron take on Cody Roads and Randy
Speaker 5: Orton in the main event. Really enjoyed this match too.
Speaker 5: I like watching Bron get in there and work with
Speaker 5: some of the veterans like Cody and Orton, see what
Speaker 5: he can do. See him kind of learning on the fly,
Speaker 5: and he looks damn good doing it. They did another
Speaker 5: double heat segment. As I mentioned here, Randy was backdropped
Speaker 5: on the announced table. Then they beat up Cody. Eventually
Speaker 5: Bron left off the Apron crashed through the barricade with Cody,
Speaker 5: which was awesome. Randy draping DDT Bronson. Paul Hayman climbed
Speaker 5: to the top rope. He was gonna come off with
Speaker 5: a tsunami, I guess to take out Randy, but this
Speaker 5: distracted the ref long enough for Seth Rollins to run
Speaker 5: in give Randy Orton a stomp, setting up Bronson Reid
Speaker 5: landing the tsunami getting the big pinfall over the viper
Speaker 5: a huge win for Bronson, Reid and afterwards, much to
Speaker 5: the dismay of Paul Hayman, Seth Rolins showed complete disregard
Speaker 5: to Hayman's advice. Hayman's telling him, whatever you're thinking, don't
Speaker 5: go back to that ring, don't do it. Rollins pushes
Speaker 5: him aside run back in to stomp Cody legitiate, but
Speaker 5: he's met with a crossroads and Hayman's holding back Bronson
Speaker 5: and Bron as Cody stands tall to end the show.
Speaker 1: Got to learn a lesson sometime. I thought that was
Speaker 1: a very good show. This this SmackDown, Remember for a while,
Speaker 1: it was just like absolutely atrocious.
Speaker 5: The past couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: It's been better, and it was significantly better than Collision,
Speaker 1: which I was thinking about this because Lance subbed for
Speaker 1: Vinnie last night and you know, he kinda he made
Speaker 1: a comment and he was right, and that is that
Speaker 1: it just feels like you're watching a house show. It
Speaker 1: feels like there is a there's a major aw show
Speaker 1: every Wednesday Tuesday this week, and then over the weekend
Speaker 1: they run a house show and we all get to
Speaker 1: watch it if we choose to. That's what Collision feels like.
Speaker 1: It's it's I mean, there's never like any big time angles.
Speaker 1: It's always a C show at best, show us to love.
Speaker 5: You know what show I used to love watching when
Speaker 5: I was younger, What's that WCW Saturday Night And was
Speaker 5: much in the same vein as that you're watching a
Speaker 5: three hour house show. But hey, everybody's tasted a little
Speaker 5: bit different, aren't they.
Speaker 1: Brian, You know, Tom, they really are back in a
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Speaker 2: You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Albarez
Speaker 2: and Mike simpervv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 1: And the show Brian Albert is here wrestling Observer Live.
Speaker 1: Mike's not Mike simple vv guilty Tom. Is this really
Speaker 1: the anniversary of the death of Grullaman's Soon.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: On this day in nineteen ninety nine, Robert James Gino
Speaker 5: Morilla passed away heart failure due to diabetes at the
Speaker 5: age of sixty two.
Speaker 1: You know my two Yeah, I know my memories of Gorilla,
Speaker 1: it's always kind of been like up and down, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Because I remember when I was
Speaker 1: a kid, I watched Gorilla and Bobby and I was
Speaker 1: always massively entertained. And then you know, I got a
Speaker 1: little older, and then you start reading The Observer and
Speaker 1: there's a lot of criticism for Gorilla because of the
Speaker 1: way he called the action. And then you know, you're
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, he's not wrong. He did
Speaker 1: always do that. And then like I rewatched some of
Speaker 1: the stuff and it's like you rewatch it and some days,
Speaker 1: some days it's like what is this guy saying? Like
Speaker 1: goll ye, the guy might submit like make me believe
Speaker 1: or whatever, But then other day you just watching it's like, nah,
Speaker 1: he was a perfect Grulla Monsoon. He was just perfect
Speaker 1: in his role. So I go up and down depending
Speaker 1: on the show I watch.
Speaker 5: Very similar to your feelings on Booker T.
Speaker 1: Kind of, I'm more positive than negative on Booker. I
Speaker 1: think it's more about it's more like Vic. I'm very
Speaker 1: up and down on is very over the top. He
Speaker 1: is over the top, but I think that, but.
Speaker 5: You know, I think he's been great on SmackDown.
Speaker 1: I Hey, you know what's funny. I I enjoy Booker T.
Speaker 1: And I know people that absolutely think this guy is
Speaker 1: the dirt worst. So it's a I don't know, you'd
Speaker 1: probably think we're the dirt worst too, But anyway, we're
Speaker 1: out of everybody. I'll be back tonight with Dave Tomorrow
Speaker 1: year on this show with Lance. We got a lot
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