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Speaker 1: the news keeps coming. Yes, Jimmy Kimmel is coming back

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Speaker 1: tomorrow night. Welcome to this episode of Amy and DJ Robes.

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Speaker 1: A little quick, I thought, I thought this was a

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Speaker 2: It was quick, but there was a lot of pressure

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it was a petition, but certainly

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Speaker 2: signed yes, a letter saying that they were demanding that

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Speaker 2: kim will be reinstated, that free speech was at stake,

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Speaker 2: and so they had a lot of pressure coming at

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Speaker 1: The pressure so much of the pressure. It didn't feel

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Speaker 1: not necessarily from a financial standpoint, But from what is

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Speaker 2: I was just gonna say I felt like it was

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Speaker 2: be because there are going to be people who boycott

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Speaker 2: I mean, the problem is, you're not just ABC. When

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Speaker 1: So all good. Disney announced, right, they pulled him last

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Speaker 2: To say what he's agreed to, what Disney insisted he

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Speaker 2: Yes, so they said, last Wednesday, we made the decision

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Speaker 2: It is a decision we made because we felt some

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Speaker 1: Right now, there is going to be and there has

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Speaker 2: Here's what Sinclair said. Beginning Tuesday night, Sinclair will be

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if I expect an apology, and

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Speaker 2: And that wasn't his intention his but but the part

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Speaker 2: I don't know what ABC and Disney would have insisted upon.

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Speaker 2: Well, we will be watching. We know you will too.

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Speaker 2: But thank you for listening this evening, I maybe Robach

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