Speaker 1: I am all in.
Speaker 2: I am all in with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 3: He everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast, one
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Speaker 3: Danielle Romo, tarrasud Amy, Sugarman.
Speaker 1: What do we think of this episode? This is uh?
Speaker 1: This is season five episode? Was it three three or
Speaker 1: four three three?
Speaker 4: Yeah? You mean the best episode of the whole.
Speaker 3: I will say. I will say this now. I get
Speaker 3: the whole mad Zuker thing. I get it now. Okay,
Speaker 3: that is like a shining star who who hit our
Speaker 3: atmosphere at hyper speed. Yes, and just kind of he
Speaker 3: just blew me away. I mean you don't even notice
Speaker 3: anybody else when he's in the scene.
Speaker 4: I agree, he's a straight dream boat.
Speaker 5: We can talk about it eventually when we get there.
Speaker 5: But I disagree.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, we've got some controversy. Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: All right, Danielle, give us, give synopsize us, and prepare
Speaker 1: us for this this this little We're gonna have some
Speaker 1: fisticuffs here. Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 4: We are we are There will be some parts, all right.
Speaker 5: So this is season five episode three Written in the
Speaker 5: Stars Air day October fifth, two thousand and four, Lorelai
Speaker 5: and Luke have their first official date, and Lorlai spends
Speaker 5: the night at least after romantic dinner. Her appearance at
Speaker 5: the diner wearing his shirt the next morning initially goes
Speaker 5: unnoticed by the people in the town. Richard and Emily
Speaker 5: bicker about their separation protocol. Paris reveals Asher has passed
Speaker 5: away and is handling his affairs and funeral arrangements, and
Speaker 5: Rory reunites with old friends after returning to you.
Speaker 4: Oh and a new one, and they have first note
Speaker 4: in the previously on when they reshow. I think we
Speaker 4: talked about it when she said it the first time,
Speaker 4: But when she says, Mary, you're such a prude, it's like,
Speaker 4: so call back to the merry thing that happened at Chilton.
Speaker 4: It's just like, I don't know, I always notice it.
Speaker 6: Also, this is a big episode for this podcast.
Speaker 5: I know that I exactly what we named the podcast.
Speaker 4: Wait, Scott, what did you think of this episode? Most important?
Speaker 1: Overall?
Speaker 3: My overall sense of it was that this is a
Speaker 3: very polished, very kind of perfect Yeah, everybody, you know,
Speaker 3: it seems like everybody's really at the height of their
Speaker 3: powers at this point. Yes, with the acting and the
Speaker 3: directing and the lighting and the editing and the music.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's all just come together, all those different departments,
Speaker 3: because the wardrobe everything, there's so many different departments, so
Speaker 3: many people can contributing and it's all just gelling and
Speaker 3: it's it's.
Speaker 1: Really it feels like a very mature show.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 3: It feels like all the kinks are out and it's
Speaker 3: just kind of glorious. It's like, look at that beauty
Speaker 3: sail Look at that beautiful sailboat just going through the water.
Speaker 1: I mean, who.
Speaker 4: Wrote this one?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: Amy, Amy, It is so funny.
Speaker 1: And Kenny Ortega directed episode.
Speaker 4: The This is why I love it so much. It
Speaker 4: is so funny. This episode. It is just so good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he knows where to put a camera.
Speaker 4: And I kind of think Lauren steals the episode, like
Speaker 4: she's so amazing in it throughout.
Speaker 1: The Yeah, it was it was something. So that's that's
Speaker 1: my sense.
Speaker 4: And do you buy chance? Remember if you did like
Speaker 4: a lot of exercising before this episode.
Speaker 5: Who laid off on some cheeseburgers substitutes?
Speaker 4: The fes have to be like bull shirtless.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I don't I don't bother with that.
Speaker 1: I just grind. I don't care. I don't care. I
Speaker 1: don't care. I don't care about that.
Speaker 4: You know, is that weird to watch yourself in those scenes?
Speaker 1: Yeah? That was a little strange.
Speaker 2: Ha ha.
Speaker 6: I can't wait to get to Wait, do you actually
Speaker 6: have a tattoo? Or was that for the show?
Speaker 1: I have to I have to actually yeah, oh.
Speaker 5: I know, learning so much about Scott every single day, I.
Speaker 1: Forgot that I was quite exposed in this episode. And
Speaker 1: now I'm talking to you.
Speaker 5: Guys, we're all none of us are looking at the screen.
Speaker 5: We're all just.
Speaker 6: It was weird watching knowing that I'm going to talk
Speaker 6: to you today. I'm sorry, Scott, I started me to look.
Speaker 1: I know, it's like and it was. There were even
Speaker 1: some parts of it where it's like, whoa look out
Speaker 1: for that sheet that's going a little too low there.
Speaker 5: Yes, you know what I mean, she was going a
Speaker 5: little low.
Speaker 1: It's like it was starting to get dicey a little
Speaker 1: bit there. But yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: Did we go from the beginning, Because first we get
Speaker 4: to the poolhouse where Richard lives and he's got his valet,
Speaker 4: who she calls Jeeves, which is just like, oh god,
Speaker 4: first of all, the rich fanciness is so amazing that
Speaker 4: her maid is talking to his valet.
Speaker 3: Anyway, you can't really tell. I couldn't really tell initially
Speaker 3: that it was a poolhouse. I was saying, like, where
Speaker 3: I thought Richard moved down the house, and then I said,
Speaker 3: alway's in the poolhouse.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 6: I was like, who has a pool Like? It took
Speaker 6: me a second.
Speaker 4: Also, a lot of people would call that a guest house. Yeah,
Speaker 4: like it's a house.
Speaker 5: It's not like a banna like there's there's fancy furniture.
Speaker 6: I think it's because Lorela and Rory were like, oh,
Speaker 6: the last time we were in here was like literally
Speaker 6: when I pushed you in the pool. So I don't
Speaker 6: think they use it besides, like summer maybe right, it's.
Speaker 4: Where you change they're so rich. It's where you like
Speaker 4: change your clothes when you're down at the pool from
Speaker 4: the big mansion.
Speaker 6: Seven steps from the maiden, so rare.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I did think it was very funny though, the whole
Speaker 4: bit about like, well, what did you already tell your
Speaker 4: grandfather you need to not give him all the good talking.
Speaker 4: You need to repeat everything you said to him to me.
Speaker 1: They're all talking. By the time they got to they
Speaker 1: were all talked out.
Speaker 4: I'll live in that poolhouse, by the way.
Speaker 3: I like how they're handling so so you know, one
Speaker 3: thing I do want to say, I think this is
Speaker 3: the kind of an episode, and this is the kind
Speaker 3: of a show now that I think fans were hoping
Speaker 3: that it would become m because I think a lot
Speaker 3: of TV shows fail to do this well, to give
Speaker 3: the their audience, their dedicated audience who for a couple
Speaker 3: of years have been so invested, and then they give
Speaker 3: them something that is like a disappointment.
Speaker 1: This is not a disappointment.
Speaker 3: This is like they're they're happy about Luke and Laurel,
Speaker 3: and they're happy about new things happening with Rory. They're happy. Well,
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're terribly happy about Richard and
Speaker 3: Emiley being broken up, but at least they figured out
Speaker 3: a way to keep them together on the same property,
Speaker 3: so we can still have the joy of the both of.
Speaker 4: Them, him walking in going to the study.
Speaker 3: So we're gonna get some lighter moments with them, and
Speaker 3: then we see the Iceberg kind of melting appointment.
Speaker 1: So there's still comedy. They're still gleaning the comedy out
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, and it and it.
Speaker 3: Appears the iceberg's melting a little bit. Now I see
Speaker 3: a path back to Emily and Richard getting back together,
Speaker 3: which is good news, hope.
Speaker 1: So but but.
Speaker 3: I think this is the show that everybody hoped that
Speaker 3: it would be. It lived up to its potential.
Speaker 4: In other words, well, how many shows can you think of?
Speaker 4: We're season five is the best ever?
Speaker 1: Right, it's still building, right, it's still.
Speaker 3: Developing, it's still and it's really it's it's very satisfying
Speaker 3: to watch, very very very satisy.
Speaker 1: Anyway, so let's uh, let's keep going here.
Speaker 4: So what did you think when we learned that Richard
Speaker 4: and Emily once went skinny dipping and she wore an overcoat,
Speaker 4: but still she went skinny dipping.
Speaker 1: Well he's a Yale man, right, So yeah, don't they
Speaker 1: They do that kind of thing, and you know, they
Speaker 1: get it's very cold out and they go skinny dipping
Speaker 1: or it's very warm out.
Speaker 4: How about the debate.
Speaker 1: But that was a thing back in the day because
Speaker 1: I because I used to do Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think they don't call a skinny dipping right,
Speaker 4: what are they called? What do you kids call it?
Speaker 1: Tara?
Speaker 4: You do?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I was thinking, I'm like, did, I mean?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Is there another word for it?
Speaker 1: Do you guys did Tara?
Speaker 5: Did?
Speaker 1: Did? When you were going to high school? Did people streak?
Speaker 1: You know what streaking is?
Speaker 4: That's kind of over?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know. No one would streak.
Speaker 4: That was a big trend for a hot minute.
Speaker 3: You know, you don't need to streak anymore because there's
Speaker 3: enough psychos out there running around naked anyway, right, so
Speaker 3: it's like you see him daily.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's not even called streaking because they're
Speaker 4: just living.
Speaker 1: There's the guy down the street.
Speaker 4: Wait, what did you guys think? This made me laugh
Speaker 4: so much of the debate of the word potty.
Speaker 6: Oh, it made me think of you, Amy, because you
Speaker 6: say potty.
Speaker 4: I know. I think it's because I have so many
Speaker 4: nieces that we say the word potty is so much.
Speaker 6: Do you I never said potty? Is kid? I think
Speaker 6: I always said bathroom? Like, thinking back, my parents did too.
Speaker 4: What do you teach your kid Scott? Did he did
Speaker 4: he say potty or bathroom when he was little five?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: I think yeah, it starts out as potty and.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's so Loreli to hate potty though.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and also like just because Rory grew up around
Speaker 6: all the adults, it's like she never had to speak
Speaker 6: to Rory.
Speaker 4: And like then we get literally what I thought was
Speaker 4: one of the funniest scenes lower LII trying to flirt
Speaker 4: with Luke while Luke is like doing his job and
Speaker 4: being so cool, and then he goes nods start to
Speaker 4: come over. Those jeans are really working for you, they're
Speaker 4: working for me. Like Luke's got game? He yeah, yes,
Speaker 4: oh he's got Massive Game.
Speaker 5: He said something else that was, oh god, like insinuating
Speaker 5: that they're going to hook up that night, and I just,
Speaker 5: damn it, it's really annoying me that I can't remember
Speaker 5: what it was.
Speaker 4: Well, he's all, those jeans are really working for you,
Speaker 4: they're working for me. Oh my god. The funniest is
Speaker 4: when he's all hot plates is when she does some
Speaker 4: kind of wonderful She's all, are you gonna show up
Speaker 4: with the diamond earrings and take me to an art museum?
Speaker 4: That whole bit is some kind of wonderful. Did you
Speaker 4: guys get that? Okay? Have you seen some kind of wonderful.
Speaker 4: None of you. Oh my god, there's a whole bit
Speaker 4: that's lost on you. So when she's she's there.
Speaker 1: Who's in some kind of wonderful.
Speaker 4: For some reason, some kind of wonderful is Oh my god,
Speaker 4: give me a second. Mary Stuart Masterson Leah Thompson and
Speaker 4: Eric Stolts. And Eric Stolts is kind of like the
Speaker 4: kid from the poor side of town, and Leah Thompson's
Speaker 4: like the rich, rich gal, and he wants to go
Speaker 4: on a date with her, and she's got kind of
Speaker 4: the like popular, mean boyfriend that she broke up with.
Speaker 4: But Mary Stuart Masterson is like his friend who he
Speaker 4: eventually ends up with, obviously, but he like it's kind
Speaker 4: of that sort of pretty and pink type thing. It's
Speaker 4: sort of pretty in pink reverse. Did you guys see
Speaker 4: Pretty and Pink?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Okay, so it's the reverse. So it's basically the same
Speaker 4: movie reversed. And anyway, her whole shtick is she's doing
Speaker 4: the plot of some kind of wonderful He takes her
Speaker 4: on this big date. But that's very interesting because that
Speaker 4: must have seemed weird to you guys watching it.
Speaker 6: I just thought it was funny, Like I thought she
Speaker 6: was just being a flirt, and then when she turns
Speaker 6: around and she's like, oh, are you gonna look like
Speaker 6: as I walk back?
Speaker 4: Well, that was cute.
Speaker 5: Can I give you the line that I was thinking about?
Speaker 4: Course?
Speaker 5: Okay, Luke goes, But tonight I will give you my
Speaker 5: extremely positive views on other aspects of your being. Oh yeah,
Speaker 5: And I was like, oh snap, it is not g rated.
Speaker 5: Go more girls anymore.
Speaker 4: Now he's kind of a dirty birdie, he is. He
Speaker 4: would be totally a sexter if there was like cell phones,
Speaker 4: like if they had iPhones, he would.
Speaker 5: He really would be. You're one hundred percent right, Yeah,
Speaker 5: he'd be.
Speaker 6: Like sex with tenine texting.
Speaker 4: With those old phones. What's ten You have.
Speaker 6: To click like the Nobel three times to get the letter?
Speaker 5: That old school texting.
Speaker 4: But anyway, I just love that scene. I mean, Scott,
Speaker 4: are you laughing? Like, how do you feel when you're
Speaker 4: watching that?
Speaker 1: I was, I was charmed.
Speaker 3: But I was definitely charmed by that scene. I thought
Speaker 3: it was very cleverly written and well acted, and yeah
Speaker 3: it was. It was good the whole It's again.
Speaker 1: Uh you know what Kenny or take it?
Speaker 7: Did?
Speaker 1: He made it look like a movie. Yes, these were
Speaker 1: movie shots.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's something that the way he does it, it's
Speaker 4: just so awesome. So okay. Then we get a quick
Speaker 4: scene with Emily getting the letter about the Heart Association
Speaker 4: and is you know that's where we hear the maids say, well,
Speaker 4: I called his valet and blah blah blah. So we're
Speaker 4: sort of getting sprinkles of that. Then we get to
Speaker 4: the dorm and the couch, the famous couch is getting
Speaker 4: moved in and we see Marty. Were you happy to
Speaker 4: see Marty?
Speaker 5: I feel like Marty like really wanted a shot of
Speaker 5: being with Rory and he just got snubbed. Like, poor
Speaker 5: guy just straight up got snubbed.
Speaker 4: He's trying, he's he's sort of stuck in friend zone.
Speaker 1: He's in the friend zone. Yeah, I was gonna say.
Speaker 4: He's not getting out.
Speaker 5: I had high hopes for him, and I will say
Speaker 5: I'm a little sad about it.
Speaker 4: He's cute, he.
Speaker 3: Likes to be he's comfortable in the friend zone. He
Speaker 3: doesn't want to get out of the friend zone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he wouldn't. He wouldn't know what to do outside
Speaker 1: of the friend zone.
Speaker 4: Did anyone get his joke though about meeting Nicole Ritchie.
Speaker 4: Maybe we talk about it in pocable.
Speaker 1: That was that was a big slam.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to have to dig into that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so then you spent the next six week showering.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would have to do we learn? Were you
Speaker 4: shocked that Asher is dead?
Speaker 3: You know, it's the one time it was I was,
Speaker 3: you know, I was gonna say last week, isn't it
Speaker 3: nice that Paris wasn't in these episodes? And then here
Speaker 3: she is again. But it's nice to see her playing
Speaker 3: a different color than just sort of yeah nihacle rage.
Speaker 3: And I thought she did very well. I really, you know,
Speaker 3: it opened me up to the character more and I
Speaker 3: started liking her more and empathizing with her more. But
Speaker 3: it was extremely But again, look at the words she
Speaker 3: gets to say.
Speaker 4: I mean all Paris. I mean when Rory were like
Speaker 4: doing it, No, he wasn't brought down my bibe.
Speaker 6: Then there was China, and there was a callback to
Speaker 6: that same thing, like two more scenes.
Speaker 4: Wait, just was I did I miss it? What is it? Yeah?
Speaker 6: It was at the didn't Marty say it? No, Marty
Speaker 6: or one of the guys that party liked.
Speaker 5: Marty and Rory went right to saying like, oh did
Speaker 5: you did he die while having sex? Like essentially that's
Speaker 5: what they alluded to.
Speaker 4: And also asked if she was with Asher, because remember
Speaker 4: when she's hanging up the things, and Logan's like, were
Speaker 4: you with him?
Speaker 5: Oh? I didn't catch that.
Speaker 4: Oh what? Oh god? I love Logans.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, no, he said, why are you hanging
Speaker 1: those ups? This old guys? Were you guys together? Or
Speaker 1: something like that?
Speaker 4: They sold out of Orlando Blue. Anyway, we'll get to it.
Speaker 4: I actually feel a little sad for Paris. I did too. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: she's sad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not quite there yet.
Speaker 4: And it is a little weird that she's sort of
Speaker 4: taking control of things. That's definitely odd, rather than the kids. Well,
Speaker 4: and why are they not a secret? They're so out
Speaker 4: in the open. It's like very weird to the fact
Speaker 4: that the lawyer's calling her, come on, that's unrealistic.
Speaker 6: Well, I think she was a secret to the school,
Speaker 6: but not to his family because I know.
Speaker 4: But it's still disturbs. Okay. So then we get this
Speaker 4: sort of setup that when Loralai walks through town and
Speaker 4: gets to the newsstand, that that's where the gossip happens,
Speaker 4: and it's Bebet, Miss Patty, and then what's that other
Speaker 4: lady's name? Does anybody know? Oh, missus Cassini.
Speaker 6: Have we seen her before?
Speaker 4: I feel like we have someone's gonna yell at us
Speaker 4: on Instagram because we don't remember. They get real mad
Speaker 4: that we don't remember everything of everything, but shouldn't have think,
Speaker 4: Oh god, okay, so that bit is very cute and
Speaker 4: we needed it for later. So Scott, you still just like,
Speaker 4: I guess everybody's just feeling good about the whole episode.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, well yeah, I mean it's uh, it's just
Speaker 3: one delightful scene after another. I mean there's no week
Speaker 3: there's no subpar scenes that the writing is great all
Speaker 3: the way through.
Speaker 1: The performances are great all the way through.
Speaker 2: So far.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you on there's no subpar scene.
Speaker 1: No, they're not.
Speaker 3: All of them were home runs, you know, It's like
Speaker 3: stringing them together was great.
Speaker 5: I like a lorla. I referred to Miss Patty and
Speaker 5: Bebbe as Hello Magazine of gossip column.
Speaker 4: So then we kind of get to the one sort
Speaker 4: of painful scene for me, not painful in a bad
Speaker 4: way like it was written painful. It just was a
Speaker 4: sad scene because the Gilmours are sitting there discussing everything
Speaker 4: and that he's got the car in the driveway and
Speaker 4: it's leaking oil and she says, you should go to
Speaker 4: the gas station or whatever, and he goes, this is
Speaker 4: the way it's going to be, and I just thought, ouch,
Speaker 4: they are not doing good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he did agree to go down the road
Speaker 3: to the gas station to true classic car, So that
Speaker 3: to me is like, oh, they're kind of back in
Speaker 3: the marriage again.
Speaker 4: They're being civil about their separation, is where I'm at, Like,
Speaker 4: it's not daggers, but it's just they're cooperating in their separation.
Speaker 1: And that's the pathway back to, you know, reconnecting.
Speaker 4: Well, that's good. It's a good way to look at it.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at it a little bit more cringey, like
Speaker 4: I'm mom and dad are fighting.
Speaker 1: But they hated each other.
Speaker 4: They just fight, right, or they wouldn't speak. All right,
Speaker 4: I'll give you.
Speaker 3: His concession was to me, he said, I still love
Speaker 3: you and I want to come back.
Speaker 4: Well, well he hasn't done it yet. He's just taking
Speaker 4: the cars to the gas station now.
Speaker 1: But that's that's a big gesture.
Speaker 4: All right, you're right, I'll give you that he agreed
Speaker 4: rather than saying like it's my driveway too.
Speaker 3: He wants to be agreeable because he he you know,
Speaker 3: I think they both want to get back that's where
Speaker 3: they were.
Speaker 4: Well, all right, we'll see. Uh now it's the time.
Speaker 4: The moment has come, the moment we've all been waiting for.
Speaker 1: The best moment of your life.
Speaker 4: Okay, here's what I will say. It was a game
Speaker 4: changing moment for me in the series because I immediately loved him,
Speaker 4: Like I was like, he stood out to me being
Speaker 4: so I was team Logan, like real fast. I literally
Speaker 4: was like, just who, I don't care. So they're at
Speaker 4: the coffee stand.
Speaker 1: You know, I agree. He kind of does blow them
Speaker 1: both out of the water.
Speaker 4: Yes, he's steals.
Speaker 1: The whole character he gets to play is.
Speaker 4: Rather not.
Speaker 3: I can see where people would find him nauseating, but
Speaker 3: where other people would find him extremely attractive.
Speaker 5: Like the first thing that came to my head was
Speaker 5: this is a Logan? What a tool? Like literally that
Speaker 5: was in my head. I was just like, this cannot
Speaker 5: be the guy that everyone thinks is cool. And I
Speaker 5: just keep hearing like Dean, which team are you on? Dean,
Speaker 5: Jess or Logan. I'm like, how is Logan in this race?
Speaker 4: Both could feel that way.
Speaker 6: I was gonna say that, like, I don't dislike Logan,
Speaker 6: but I kind of agree with Danielle that he kind
Speaker 6: of came in hot and like you you're not you
Speaker 6: don't love him at first, but you're intrigued.
Speaker 4: No, I loved him because he is the although Jess
Speaker 4: did this in a certain way, but Logan really gives
Speaker 4: Roy a run for her money. That's what I was
Speaker 4: kissing her, but he's not like running over her. He
Speaker 4: is like ready to sort of spar and even how
Speaker 4: when he's gonna say fun, wasn't it like this guy's
Speaker 4: at Yale. This guy is not dumb like he's at Yale. Plus,
Speaker 4: I just think he's so cute and I love that
Speaker 4: he's sort of like he's got a hint of like
Speaker 4: bad boy. He's sort of got a little Dean, a
Speaker 4: little Jess, a little lots of people. Oh, I love him.
Speaker 5: I hope it turns around. I hope in the next
Speaker 5: few episodes that I don't know, I don't know my
Speaker 5: thought changes on him, but I'm just like, so, do you.
Speaker 4: Think he was a jerk to Marty or did you
Speaker 4: think he was just like remembered just.
Speaker 5: Like he felt very arrogant. That's the best way I
Speaker 5: can I can explain it. He just felt arrogant in
Speaker 5: every single scene he had, I think.
Speaker 3: But I think he was just being himself. That's the character.
Speaker 3: He was being himself. He wasn't trying to it's you know,
Speaker 3: to the manner born right right, right, right right, It's
Speaker 3: it's hard not to be that when you're in your environment,
Speaker 3: You're you're at your place. You know, you're at Yale.
Speaker 3: Dad went to Yale, his father went to you. You know,
Speaker 3: you can just you can just feel the bloodline, right,
Speaker 3: it's just coming out of him, so totally right you
Speaker 3: either rejected out of hand.
Speaker 4: I don't like that for Ror totally.
Speaker 5: I just don't know if I like want that for
Speaker 5: Rory right now.
Speaker 4: Like, well, it comes to its complications, we will learn.
Speaker 4: But right out the gate, I'm like, this guy is
Speaker 4: a stud. He's a little bit of a pompous.
Speaker 1: Like you think Richard was like that when he was young.
Speaker 1: You think he reminds me.
Speaker 4: I think Richard was sweeter. I think Richard would never
Speaker 4: be like Richard was super sweet.
Speaker 5: I bet he seems like what was Digger's dad, Lloyd
Speaker 5: or Floyd?
Speaker 1: Which one was it?
Speaker 5: He kind of reminds me like a younger Floyd, Like
Speaker 5: you know how how Floyd is kind of I don't know,
Speaker 5: a little bit of a snake. That's that's what Logan
Speaker 5: looks like. I again, no one yelled at me because
Speaker 5: it's my first time seeing him. But first impression, first impression,
Speaker 5: I'm just like.
Speaker 3: You think he's got too much game. It's like too
Speaker 3: it comes too easy to him, like that level of game.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe it's too much, right, Yeah, he think he's
Speaker 3: a serious student.
Speaker 1: Do you think he's an overachiever? Do you do you
Speaker 1: think he's a Does he came up to you like
Speaker 1: a guy who was riding on his family's coattails and
Speaker 1: wasn't working hard? And that he.
Speaker 3: That's a country made of ice cream. He's he's the
Speaker 3: way we were. He's he's what Streisand objected to. But
Speaker 3: it's what Streysand objected to so strongly in that film,
Speaker 3: Like what's wrong with you people? It's eleanor Roosevelt. What
Speaker 3: are you making jokes about her for? Because it's what
Speaker 3: we do. We make jokes you, why are you being
Speaker 3: so serious? You know what's wrong with you? Which we
Speaker 3: make fun of everything. That's how we get through the day,
Speaker 3: you know, And that's that's to me what Logan is.
Speaker 3: He's just making fun of everything because it masks pain,
Speaker 3: It masks yeah, whatever, you know, trauma he's gone through.
Speaker 3: Just because he's wealthy, just because he's you know, obviously
Speaker 3: a privileged kid, doesn't mean he doesn't have issues, right,
Speaker 3: So that's that's to me what that's saying. So I
Speaker 3: was pulled in by it. Actually, I see what you.
Speaker 1: Mean, Daniel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do see what you mean.
Speaker 3: I can see how it's like, oh boy, that's going
Speaker 3: to rub a lot of people the wrong way.
Speaker 5: But I'm definitely not writing him off, Like I'm like,
Speaker 5: I'm going to give him a chance. But just right now,
Speaker 5: it's a little jarring. So I'm waiting for the next
Speaker 5: few episodes to really get to know him.
Speaker 4: Your first impression, So and then Marty says I kind
Speaker 4: of hate those guys, and Rory says, can't see why,
Speaker 4: and she sort of is like, ugh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you see, Marty feels like the guy for me,
Speaker 5: no anybody else, Like right now, I'm like, Marty seems
Speaker 5: so cute, Like why why is Rory sleeping on him?
Speaker 5: Like she's sleeping on being together with Marty? Like he's
Speaker 5: not the guy he feels like it right now to me, Like.
Speaker 6: The next friend zones him quick though, I guess.
Speaker 4: But but how do you go back from finding someone
Speaker 4: naked in the hallway.
Speaker 3: Marty's the stable one, Marty's the guy you marry. He's
Speaker 3: never gonna cheat on you. He's going to be a
Speaker 3: great husband, he's going to be a great father, He's going.
Speaker 1: To earn a great living.
Speaker 3: And you could be bored your entire life with Logan. Logan,
Speaker 3: that's gonna be a little different.
Speaker 4: Logan's gonna give her a run for her money. That's
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. He is like coming in hot and
Speaker 4: who was the girl? Somebody, somebody needs to figure out.
Speaker 4: Who was that girl that was like his arm around her?
Speaker 6: Is that we'll get We'll get tod Amy, But I
Speaker 6: know one of the background actors in this episode. No, yeah,
Speaker 6: we'll get to it. We'll get to it, Okay, you
Speaker 6: have to.
Speaker 4: Tell us, all right, so we get to meet the man.
Speaker 3: But but I will say this, when he comes on screen.
Speaker 3: I didn't look at anybody else.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the actor, the.
Speaker 3: Person has real charisma and real magnifal and real talent.
Speaker 3: He's extremely appealing, extremely talented actor.
Speaker 4: He did the same thing in The Good Wife. Like
Speaker 4: there were a lot of big actors in The Good Wife,
Speaker 4: and he I always gravitated toward him, even with like
Speaker 4: Christine Baranski and Juliana Marga Lees and like a bunch
Speaker 4: of others, You're still like, who's that guy? And that
Speaker 4: was you know, Matt Zukri is like he's he's amazing
Speaker 4: or ipee the resident though, why, oh my god.
Speaker 6: I texted Amy when I saw it and I was like,
Speaker 6: this just breaks my heart.
Speaker 4: Right before we watch this episode too, they canceled his show. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 4: what I was doing well, I don't know. I mean
Speaker 4: six seasons. Look, he did fine. I'm sure he got
Speaker 4: a good couple of bucks, but still.
Speaker 6: But he was getting I know, Amy, you're behind, but
Speaker 6: like I watched up until the Christmas break and it
Speaker 6: was so good to catch them. I'm like, did they
Speaker 6: finish out? I wonder if they finished out like what
Speaker 6: was lingering from the end of the season or it's
Speaker 6: just done done.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know there are more episodes
Speaker 4: that are going to even air or is it just
Speaker 4: dumb hope?
Speaker 7: Huh?
Speaker 6: I need I need any closure?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well he's you know, he'll he'll, he's always going to
Speaker 1: land on his feet. He'll get another show.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Louisville.
Speaker 3: I'm going to be in Louisville at the Louisville Popcorn
Speaker 3: July sixteenth through eighteen. Just wanted to get that in
Speaker 3: so as we're talking about Louisville.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure we were, but that's okay.
Speaker 6: I like literally was like, did I forget somebody?
Speaker 4: So then we have Rory and Harris hugging, which was
Speaker 4: very and I was like, Paris wants to have a wake,
Speaker 4: which Rory says, yes, okay. So then now we get
Speaker 4: to the best Loralai coming out the door for her date.
Speaker 4: She is so cute. Are you kidding me? She looks
Speaker 4: smoking hot? Did you guys not agree? When she comes
Speaker 4: out of house, I'm like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 5: I gotta give it to Laurlai and Luke in this
Speaker 5: episode they are definitely thriving and you're glowing.
Speaker 4: I agree, And then that scene they're really giving like
Speaker 4: both of you, but especially Lauren, like all that physical comedy,
Speaker 4: like the getting in the car and the whole thing,
Speaker 4: and then she's like, we'll get better at this, Like
Speaker 4: it's so funny to watch.
Speaker 1: That was a lot of fun to rehearse. We found
Speaker 1: all that in rehearsal.
Speaker 4: Oh that's cool.
Speaker 3: And the thing to do in rehearsal, the thing to
Speaker 3: do when when they say action is not to overdo
Speaker 3: all that stuff. It's hard not to overdo all that stuff,
Speaker 3: you know, because there's a lot there. You can really
Speaker 3: ham it up. I think we were right right on
Speaker 3: the borderline of ham but not quite.
Speaker 1: I think we pulled it off. I enjoy I think so.
Speaker 5: I think so.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think she's really good at it because
Speaker 4: it reminded me of the scene when she's trying to
Speaker 4: act cool around you and touch the table.
Speaker 5: I weirdly love that, like I feel, I mean, obviously,
Speaker 5: Luke has been a very established character, but I felt
Speaker 5: like in this episode it made it even more prevalent,
Speaker 5: like because we learned so much about him, like that
Speaker 5: he goes to this tavern that it's Luke's Luke, or right,
Speaker 5: Luke's Luke.
Speaker 4: Luke's Luke Ye, Luke Luke.
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, and that like these two people are really
Speaker 5: important to his life and helped him, you know, create
Speaker 5: the diner and like all that kind of stuff. Like
Speaker 5: I just felt like we got a lot of backstory
Speaker 5: and felt and Luke was very like humanized in this
Speaker 5: scene for me, like he is a person with a history.
Speaker 4: Hello, Missus Landingham, Catherine justin I know, oh my god,
Speaker 4: my god, Like I want.
Speaker 6: No shock to see her. This was the year before
Speaker 6: she started Desperate Housewives.
Speaker 4: And after she was Missus Landingham on the West Wing.
Speaker 4: I didn't watch the last thing, but oh my gosh,
Speaker 4: that was amazing, Like that was amazing.
Speaker 3: So here's here's what was interesting for me watching it
Speaker 3: that dating scene is that it's one of the few
Speaker 3: times and I don't think it's the first time, but
Speaker 3: it's one of the few times we see Luke.
Speaker 1: Without us hat on.
Speaker 4: Yeah yep.
Speaker 3: And it's like it's like a mask came off. He
Speaker 3: wears that hat. He's a certain guy. He no longer
Speaker 3: has that hat on. He's on a date. He's a
Speaker 3: different guy.
Speaker 1: We get to know it. We get to see a
Speaker 1: whole new layer of this guy.
Speaker 3: First of all, is adjusting, Like, gosh, you know, I
Speaker 3: thought I look a lot different with the hat off
Speaker 3: than I do with it on. Yeah, so I had
Speaker 3: to get used to that. But it's a it's a
Speaker 3: it's a different personality too.
Speaker 5: It's it's so interesting you say that because your first
Speaker 5: like big scenes with Lrela, you don't have your hat on,
Speaker 5: like when you guys first kissed.
Speaker 1: No hat, right.
Speaker 5: The state no hat like that is a very right.
Speaker 4: You go from being to reach the lauralized loop. Hates
Speaker 4: symbolizes that. It's almost like Clark Kent to Superman.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I'm saying, but I was also and I
Speaker 7: know that, you know, the tension of the sexual tension
Speaker 7: between them and the mutual attraction is there.
Speaker 3: You feel it, you know, you know they like each
Speaker 3: other and they're blushy all around each other and nervous
Speaker 3: and but you know, I was watching out for the
Speaker 3: signposts of are these do these to have the future?
Speaker 3: Because you know, is she going to be less jokey
Speaker 3: and he's going to be a little warmer so that
Speaker 3: they kind of mesh better, or is she going to
Speaker 3: be her same jokey, throw it away self, or is
Speaker 3: she going to get a little bit more serious, and
Speaker 3: he's going to so that they can meet somewhere in
Speaker 3: the middle, so we can.
Speaker 4: See Joe being that I'm seeing meshing where he's a
Speaker 4: little more fun. Yeah, she has our serious moments.
Speaker 5: And he's a little more like lovey, which we haven't
Speaker 5: really seen.
Speaker 1: I have not seen that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I have one word for you guys, like horoscope.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that just.
Speaker 5: Proved everything to me. I was like, yep, yep and yep,
Speaker 5: like this is in the stars, Like this relationship is
Speaker 5: in the stars.
Speaker 4: This is what I love about. Okay, But the same thing,
Speaker 4: the horoscope can be the sweetest, most meaningful thing ever
Speaker 4: right where you're like, oh my gosh, he has the
Speaker 4: horse go. But that same plot device can be hilarious
Speaker 4: at the town meeting when she's like horoscope, Yeah, that's
Speaker 4: what I love. Is it Like nothing gets too schmaltzy
Speaker 4: because the same thing is funny and then it's never
Speaker 4: too sappy. You're like, oh my god, I love it.
Speaker 4: Love this point, like the story of Sniffy because the
Speaker 4: fact that the dog died.
Speaker 1: And they run on the back of the menu, you're
Speaker 1: going to read the whole fa.
Speaker 6: And then it just ends like ends, it ends, and.
Speaker 4: I love that he remembers the first time they met
Speaker 4: and the whole thing. Wait, are you a scorpio? What
Speaker 4: are you in real life?
Speaker 1: I am not. I do have I have had my
Speaker 1: chart done.
Speaker 4: Well, what's your birthday? What's your son?
Speaker 1: Nine eleven?
Speaker 4: I'm a virgo nine to eleven, by the way.
Speaker 1: But I do have a lot of Scorpio in me.
Speaker 4: We'rego one scorpio October, end of October into November eight.
Speaker 4: Ears kept that in there, and then it happened better
Speaker 4: than meeting logan. You're in, you are all.
Speaker 6: I didn't know it was in this episode.
Speaker 5: You know, not to say I am a psychic, but
Speaker 5: in the last episode I was like, I am waiting
Speaker 5: for Luke to be all in and here you go
Speaker 5: delivering the give a line of this podcast.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you three, have you ever been in
Speaker 3: that position on the receiving end of a guy who
Speaker 3: says I'm all in?
Speaker 4: No, No, I mean no, just doesn't go that way.
Speaker 5: No, I think I have.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my husband in all in, yeah.
Speaker 5: Because I mean this is no one cares. But we
Speaker 5: were coworkers.
Speaker 4: Care.
Speaker 5: We were coworkers, and we crossed a line of friendship,
Speaker 5: and I was like, I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 5: if I want to do this, and he's like, I
Speaker 5: want to, Like, I am here when you want to,
Speaker 5: and so that's his version of I'm all in. But yeah,
Speaker 5: I guess kind of.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well it seems to be working out for you.
Speaker 5: It's working out pretty well.
Speaker 1: Now. If you were in a position Amy and and Tar,
Speaker 1: how would you feel?
Speaker 3: Is it too much? I guess it depends on how
Speaker 3: you feel about the guy, right, sure? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: that was eight years coming. That was a big hanging
Speaker 3: out there for eight years.
Speaker 4: Man, I date the more of a Logan. I'm just
Speaker 4: gonna say a little bit.
Speaker 6: More think of like think of like Logan.
Speaker 4: Is what I date.
Speaker 3: I date, but I think, but can you wait a minute,
Speaker 3: can you You can't see Logan sitting down with Rory
Speaker 3: one day and saying I'm all in.
Speaker 1: No, No, that's not a.
Speaker 4: Logan I'm yeah, it's not even a Dean move.
Speaker 1: You want to chase the guy you like. You want
Speaker 1: to be the one that says I'm all in.
Speaker 4: Pretty much, but it's a I could see you are
Speaker 4: you are? I could see just doing that.
Speaker 5: He kind of did yeah, yeah, he did kind of did.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean not the best way, but like Luke
Speaker 6: did it better, way better, but you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: Like he was like, just.
Speaker 5: Come run away with me, like I I want this,
Speaker 5: like I want you, you know. Yeah, so he did
Speaker 5: do it in his own way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, huh, Logan is more complix.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm going to open up a can of
Speaker 3: worms here and we can always edit this out. Never
Speaker 3: would you say that this scene was anti feminist?
Speaker 7: M m?
Speaker 1: Do you see this as a feminist show and empowering women?
Speaker 1: Women don't need men. That's kind of the message we
Speaker 1: really need guys, we don't really need.
Speaker 4: No, I don't think that's the message.
Speaker 1: You don't think that's you think that's part of the message.
Speaker 1: That's not part of the message you're getting.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think this relationship really challenged that whole
Speaker 3: that whole fame and that whole premise.
Speaker 4: He's her equal and he respects her and one hundred percent,
Speaker 4: and he's also exactly how she is.
Speaker 5: He's also saying I chose I'm choosing you choose me,
Speaker 5: you know, like he's saying, I am all in, like
Speaker 5: meet me here.
Speaker 1: So he's being the vulnerable one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, I think he's.
Speaker 1: To dominate or her or order her around or pressure.
Speaker 3: It's nothing like that, No, he's saying, which is why
Speaker 3: it's a guy like that doing it that way.
Speaker 4: He's being confident, but also like not playing games like
Speaker 4: he's he's being he's really stepping up and being like
Speaker 4: a true love.
Speaker 5: Yep, I agree, Okay.
Speaker 4: I'm in I am all.
Speaker 6: I think that. I think that comes back around and
Speaker 6: not to jump ahead, but just in this conversation when
Speaker 6: they're at the town meeting and they're like the owner
Speaker 6: of the diner and the owner of the inn are dating,
Speaker 6: and they basically put them as equals as two important
Speaker 6: yesiness owners in the town.
Speaker 4: Great point, Well, and we'll get to this. But Luke
Speaker 4: steps up again and says, this is my relationship and hers.
Speaker 4: He doesn't say this is mine. He says this is
Speaker 4: mine and hers, not yours, not yours, not yours, mine
Speaker 4: and hers. He's very I would call him whatever the
Speaker 4: supporter of a feminist is.
Speaker 3: That's him, right, So he is pro feminist I think
Speaker 3: because he's not because if she said no or it
Speaker 3: didn't work out for whatever reason, he would not be
Speaker 3: he would accept it mm hmm. He would hate because
Speaker 3: he has enough respect for her and their friendship ultimately
Speaker 3: to step back and say.
Speaker 4: He has give her the space respect for her.
Speaker 1: That's the point, right, he has completely.
Speaker 4: In my opinion, one thousand percent more than Christopher, more
Speaker 4: than Digger, more than more than any of them. He
Speaker 4: considers her his complete equal. Now that doesn't mean he's
Speaker 4: not going to come and fix the deck and and
Speaker 4: give her the loan that she needed, right, but he
Speaker 4: considers her his partner in my opinion.
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing it out there.
Speaker 4: I just want to I love the conversation a little.
Speaker 1: Bit and see what was going to come out.
Speaker 4: Good one one, Okay, well, then.
Speaker 1: Take the garbage cans out. I'll be right back, okay.
Speaker 5: I can't believe it happened this fast.
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, four years years.
Speaker 6: But it was also like the next scene, like there.
Speaker 5: Was no yeah, it was here going full throw.
Speaker 4: And it was not awkward. And I wrote, oh MG,
Speaker 4: holy s h. I t and I've seen it, and
Speaker 4: I also stay it was cute, not weird, Whereas there
Speaker 4: was a hint of weird for me with Digger. This
Speaker 4: was cute, not weird.
Speaker 6: I agree, with you. Yeah, and when he's like making
Speaker 6: a list of this, like the song the CDs.
Speaker 4: Well, guys, is that not? Is there not any kind
Speaker 4: of weird parallel to Rory and Dean talking about music
Speaker 4: and candy man yea the first time they do it
Speaker 4: and these two do it and it's YouTube Blondie Sparks.
Speaker 4: I don't know who the Sparks are. Bowie. I was like,
Speaker 4: oh wow, so now you're telling me though you did
Speaker 4: not get this script? Do do do you get your script?
Speaker 4: And it says Luke and Loralai in bed, Luke shirtless.
Speaker 4: You're telling me that you did not do extra pushups,
Speaker 4: you did not stop eating carbs that week. You're just
Speaker 4: telling me you were easy breezy. I do not believe.
Speaker 1: I may have done four or five push ups, and
Speaker 1: I may have skipped the pasta at lunch that day.
Speaker 4: It sounds of it.
Speaker 1: I will grant you.
Speaker 3: That I have no recollection collection of that though, Senator.
Speaker 1: But I may have.
Speaker 4: I will say, Danielle, we're gonna admit to you, Scott,
Speaker 4: We're gonna admit some truth to you. Danielle and I
Speaker 4: have where I'm like, did you watch the episode? It's
Speaker 4: the best one ever. I love it so much. And
Speaker 4: she's like, I just watched it, and then I'm like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, Scott is shirtless. Okay, the way I
Speaker 4: watched it twenty years ago and the way I watched
Speaker 4: it now, I'm not gonna lie different because different. Twenty
Speaker 4: years ago, I didn't know you, so I was just
Speaker 4: watching Luke. Now I had a blur of like, oh.
Speaker 5: God, and all I can see is Scott.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was really hard.
Speaker 1: Did you a headset?
Speaker 5: I literally like, there's Scott.
Speaker 4: It was just so SHM.
Speaker 5: Not gonna lie.
Speaker 6: I was like, I was like, oh, I wish I
Speaker 6: like fast forward.
Speaker 4: It's so weird watching it. I will say I will
Speaker 4: take one for the team here. You're not bad to
Speaker 4: look at. Good job, good job, I can say that.
Speaker 4: But it was very different this time. It's not a secret.
Speaker 4: I've admitted it. When I watched for the first time,
Speaker 4: I definitely had crush on Luke. I always look I
Speaker 4: like Dean, I love jazz, and then I really loved Logan.
Speaker 4: But I had a crush on Luke because and I
Speaker 4: did say this to the email too, like you were okay,
Speaker 4: And I mean this in the nicest way. Possible when
Speaker 4: twenty years ago, I was twenty nine and you were
Speaker 4: like in your forties, so that was like reasonable these
Speaker 4: guys are They didn't think they weren't going to be
Speaker 4: attracted to Luke then at all because he was the
Speaker 4: dad to them.
Speaker 1: I was forty five. I was forty five and that's right.
Speaker 4: And I was almost thirty or in my early thirty
Speaker 4: so that was like totally reasonable.
Speaker 5: People in high school were like into Jess and Dean exactly.
Speaker 4: My crush would have been on Luke and Christopher. I've
Speaker 4: always admitted I had a huge crush on Christopher too,
Speaker 4: So I would like the dad characters, whereas these guys
Speaker 4: would have liked the Rory boy Yeah, the boyfriends. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was like inappropriate that I liked Logan probably, although
Speaker 4: how is Somebody tell me how old Matt Zuger is?
Speaker 7: Is he?
Speaker 4: Even in my realm he's in his forties.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's probably.
Speaker 4: It's well, he's probably it's forty.
Speaker 6: He's forty, right, so that's not creepy.
Speaker 4: He must have been playing old because he was forty.
Speaker 6: He always liked a twenty five playing like nineteen twenty.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Anyway, I'm distracted by the the sheet was going
Speaker 4: abnormally lo tho. I was like, oh, like, does someone
Speaker 4: come out and like move that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did have a sheet pollar?
Speaker 4: Is that true? They like, ye, can't go.
Speaker 3: To the expensive sheet pullars are really expensive, like to
Speaker 3: get a good one, because if you get a bad
Speaker 3: sheet pollar, then you know you're out there whistling Dixie.
Speaker 3: You're out in the ring without a coat on, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Then she the alarm goes off. You guys are so sleepy,
Speaker 4: bloody blah. She goes downstairs. I literally wrote, oh my god,
Speaker 4: I am dead. I am dead. Oh my god, ha
Speaker 4: ha ha, Like it is so funny.
Speaker 5: No music in the diner, Like everyone just stopped.
Speaker 6: I was shocked that she didn't think about it, because
Speaker 6: a second she's like downstairs, I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 6: there are people downstairs. It's it's the next one. Like
Speaker 6: I knew it, but A shocked that she didn't.
Speaker 5: But she's there when Luke is there, right and Luke
Speaker 5: is with her.
Speaker 6: Didn't even think Caesar's Caesar's been running the diner for
Speaker 6: god knows how long now, since he was out of town.
Speaker 6: So that's why I was like, huh, I thought it.
Speaker 4: Was hysterical, and then the the script when she comes
Speaker 4: back up look at me like, and it's just the
Speaker 4: banter they have is just oh, it was so funny.
Speaker 4: Well they don't now, they know now whole thing. You
Speaker 4: guys are so good together.
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, man, yes, brings it amazing.
Speaker 3: Emotional seeing yourself kidding I.
Speaker 4: Know, I know, just kidding. I still do not know
Speaker 4: I could. I don't think I could watch if I
Speaker 4: was like half naked on screen, I could not look.
Speaker 4: I can look at some pictures, I can't look at
Speaker 4: myself fully clothed, Like can you just watch that? I mean, yeah,
Speaker 4: are you like O good?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I was sitting there judging myself. I was okay
Speaker 1: with it. I was like, oh yeah, well yeah, not
Speaker 1: too bad.
Speaker 4: Because you had not any posten. You did like eight
Speaker 4: hundred and twelve pookas okay. So then we get our
Speaker 4: second appearance by the love of my life Logan Huntsburger.
Speaker 4: We probably don't even know his name yet, we don't
Speaker 4: know that his name is Huntsburger for sure. But so
Speaker 4: she's hanging the flyers and there he is Ben looking
Speaker 4: for the girl, and they have that amazing banter.
Speaker 6: It was good. It was I thoroughly enjoyed that advanter.
Speaker 6: It's hard to keep up, yeah yeah, yeah, and leeps up.
Speaker 4: With him and he keeps up with her.
Speaker 6: But like it kind of reminded me of like the
Speaker 6: way Laura, I like, is really great at her banter
Speaker 6: with people, and like Rory stepped up, like she was like,
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna let this guy up all over me,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Logan does have that Laura Lai element to him
Speaker 3: where he's just throwing a stream of consciousness. He's just
Speaker 3: throwing stuff out there, man, and it's all great. Yeah,
Speaker 3: got to keep up with.
Speaker 1: Him, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: And Laura Luke and Laurai keep up, and Christopher keeps
Speaker 4: up with Laurai. They have that same thing. So I guess,
Speaker 4: although I do think Jess kept up with Rory, Dean
Speaker 4: is a different It's different, whereas this is the first
Speaker 4: person where it's like, oh my god, not only is
Speaker 4: this person keeping up, but he's kind of inching ahead.
Speaker 3: Oh sure, No, he's he's he's pushing the narrative. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean he's he's making the rules of that.
Speaker 4: And it's hard to argue with that interaction.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like, you know, yeah, absolutely so.
Speaker 4: Then we see Paris with the pipe just like that.
Speaker 4: But I was so sweet.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like Rory is such a good friend, Like
Speaker 6: Rory is probably like, yeah, they hugged. Yeah, even though
Speaker 6: Rory probably thinks like she's kind of crazy with all this,
Speaker 6: like she's still supporting her friend.
Speaker 4: Totally puts her arm around her. So Okay. Then we
Speaker 4: go to the gossip circle again and it's like they're
Speaker 4: not talking about her, and she's just stunned.
Speaker 6: She's waiting for where was this gossip circle like two
Speaker 6: weeks ago?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? I'd love to hear what
Speaker 4: they said about the incident with Rory and Lindsey.
Speaker 6: And lindsay That's what I was thinking.
Speaker 4: I would have loved to hear that, Well, they.
Speaker 5: Were watching, do you remember that, like when the whole town, Yeah,
Speaker 5: the hotel watching.
Speaker 6: But I would have liked to see the new stand
Speaker 6: gossip of that the whole.
Speaker 4: Town was watching him her throw his stuff out.
Speaker 5: I don't know, Like Ben, it's definitely exo exo gossip girl,
Speaker 5: isn't she Like yeah, she's runs.
Speaker 6: Yeah, ms Patty Studio is in the middle of the
Speaker 6: town and the door is always wide open.
Speaker 4: Totally so okay. Then I love that Lorli calls Luke
Speaker 4: you know what I mean to say, like.
Speaker 6: No one's talking.
Speaker 4: She hey, And then I was still on for tonight.
Speaker 4: It's just so steady. He just does not care.
Speaker 3: Isn't it quite charming though that they're nervous about it
Speaker 3: getting out because they don't want to sort of ruffle
Speaker 3: the town feathers.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 3: I also because that's a big sea ching that's for
Speaker 3: everybody in that town, or at least the people go
Speaker 3: the diner, know, those two.
Speaker 4: The thing I love is that both of them are
Speaker 4: trying to be on the same page as each other.
Speaker 4: Do you want it out? I don't care. It can
Speaker 4: be out, It doesn't have to be out. Do you
Speaker 4: want it out all time? That nobody's being like no
Speaker 4: one can know or we need to tell everybody, like
Speaker 4: they just want to be on the same page with it,
Speaker 4: which I thought, Oh that.
Speaker 1: I like, he ain't digger. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So then we see Emily having her solo dinner.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think I think they're similar in that, you know,
Speaker 3: Luke kind of does have a kitchen in his bedroom
Speaker 3: like dig out a weird kitchen.
Speaker 1: Do it anyway? Go ahead, I'll shut up, go ahead.
Speaker 4: No. So is that maid's name Madonna Louise? Yes, they
Speaker 4: said her name so many times and relatable that Emily's
Speaker 4: like sees Richard going to the car and she's just
Speaker 4: completely stunned where is he going? Which to your point, Scott,
Speaker 4: that to me was the indicator that hope is not
Speaker 4: lost because she cares where is he going?
Speaker 1: So that was made her feel like it made her
Speaker 1: feel like a jealous teenager again.
Speaker 4: Yes, so Lourla is now wearing the best metallic blazer
Speaker 4: I've ever seen, and they're going to the town meeting.
Speaker 4: And also she's got like a bag of marshmallows, which.
Speaker 5: I love her for always lighting snacks.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I like the pit stop the town meeting
Speaker 6: before the actual date totally.
Speaker 4: And so they're debating Gypsy's car accident and that was like,
Speaker 4: it was so brilliant because we're kind of invested in that,
Speaker 4: what's going on? What's going on Andrew and Gypsy and
Speaker 4: then Docie it's a serious matter. We need to discuss
Speaker 4: the proprietor of the inn and the diner owner. And
Speaker 4: I was like, this is something we have feared for
Speaker 4: quite some time.
Speaker 5: I was like, it's telling though that they said for
Speaker 5: quite some time because the town. Maybe the reason why
Speaker 5: I hear talking about it is because they wanted this
Speaker 5: to happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's like something.
Speaker 4: I'm like, they're right, that's us.
Speaker 1: That was very funny. That was really funny.
Speaker 4: And the drama with the florist and the candy shop owner.
Speaker 6: I like how it wasn't Laura I and Luke. It's
Speaker 6: like the owner of the diner and the owner of
Speaker 6: the inn totally.
Speaker 4: And then Luke just is not playing, and she liked it.
Speaker 4: She likes that you just were not playing. You're like,
Speaker 4: this is not happening.
Speaker 6: And Emily always has impeccable timing with her phone.
Speaker 4: Yes, so Emily's interrupting because she's in the car now
Speaker 4: driving around because she can't be home if he's not home.
Speaker 4: I did notice they've switched a speakerphone though, and the
Speaker 4: cumber Luke was talking on his Now we've got speakerphone.
Speaker 4: So anyway, I love the whole thing showing the horoscope
Speaker 4: and he's as a couple of middle fingers. God, did
Speaker 4: you guys catch this?
Speaker 8: Scott?
Speaker 4: Do you catch it? Well you guys. So Luke's up
Speaker 4: there doing his thing, right, and did you see what
Speaker 4: he did?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he gave a wink at
Speaker 1: the end.
Speaker 4: I think it's our Oh yeah, you gotta watch the wink.
Speaker 4: I think that's our second wink where he really uses
Speaker 4: that very second.
Speaker 1: That's the Laurela.
Speaker 4: And then I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry because Emily went.
Speaker 6: It took me a second to be like, why is
Speaker 6: she sorry? And then it like clicks and I was like, oh.
Speaker 4: Oh my god. The whole thing was so good though.
Speaker 4: She's perfect there consoling Paris.
Speaker 6: Oh god, so this scene is I know one of
Speaker 6: the background actors show.
Speaker 4: Wait, have Jackie pull it up so we can see.
Speaker 6: So it's the guy bringing in the keg.
Speaker 1: And then well.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's one of the guys. And then when and
Speaker 6: Rory and Marty are talking, he's standing right between. But
Speaker 6: it's one of my really close friend's husbands. No, he's
Speaker 6: now on the CW show Superman and Lois well, can
Speaker 6: he come on? Probably? Yeah, And I knew he was
Speaker 6: in the show like he's because when he found out
Speaker 6: I was doing the podcast. I used to go to
Speaker 6: their house all the time, I was like, oh, I'm
Speaker 6: doing this podcast.
Speaker 4: He's like I was.
Speaker 6: In Gilmore Girls and it was one of my first
Speaker 6: acting roles.
Speaker 4: Ever, does he talk on Superman and Lois or yeah,
Speaker 4: he's a regular, he's a song now He's like real,
Speaker 4: oh wow, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 6: And he never told me which episode, So I texted
Speaker 6: them last night. I'm like, we got there in the podcast,
Speaker 6: We're here, it's the episode. So I just thought it
Speaker 6: was funny, like I actually knew someone.
Speaker 4: We'll do it. Let's do a deep dive again on
Speaker 4: background acting. Bring him on?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 4: And then what did you all think when Marty asks
Speaker 4: about the boyfriend? She's got the whole I don't know,
Speaker 4: and then she goes to Dean's.
Speaker 6: It made me angry, to be honest, tell me more.
Speaker 6: I was just like, you're at this wake, you have
Speaker 6: Marty in front of you, and you drive all the
Speaker 6: way the stars hollow, like, come on, like you already
Speaker 6: kind of ruined the marriage, you know?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it's the last thing you expected and
Speaker 3: you got it from.
Speaker 1: The writing. Yeah, So I really.
Speaker 3: It's just another sign of high level writing. You use
Speaker 3: you know, your you you sing the ones that brung you. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and that scene and that storyline brung brung us. Yeah,
Speaker 3: whether we liked it or not, it was it heightened
Speaker 3: the tension. And going back to it and it's real,
Speaker 3: it just felt so real. It's it felt like what
Speaker 3: a lot of people would do in that situation, you know,
Speaker 3: because you know, what are we dealing with.
Speaker 1: We're dealing with the death. We're dealing with death here
Speaker 1: and it's probably and Gilmore has done it before and
Speaker 1: it's always very light hearted, but this was a little
Speaker 1: more impactful, right, And it impacted Paris and Rory.
Speaker 3: And Rory was thinking about her future and you know,
Speaker 3: going from the wake to Deans is the logical thing
Speaker 3: to do, emotionally speaking, emotionally logical thing to do.
Speaker 4: Especially when Marty's pushing her on who's your boyfriend?
Speaker 3: But I think it also says it shows us where
Speaker 3: Rory is in this story. Yeah, confused, she's kind of lost,
Speaker 3: but she's also a human being and she has needs
Speaker 3: and she wants love too, and she doesn't want to
Speaker 3: put off her life or her her wants or her
Speaker 3: needs even for one night. And this just sort of
Speaker 3: highlighted how you have to live maybe every moment like
Speaker 3: it's your last and just you know that mixed with
Speaker 3: confusion and pain and yeah.
Speaker 6: That scene also when she shows.
Speaker 3: Up, I mean, she's not connecting with anybody, is she.
Speaker 3: She didn't connect with Logan, She's not connecting with Marty.
Speaker 4: She she doesn't know that she's going. She's connected with Logan.
Speaker 4: She just doesn't know it yet.
Speaker 1: No, she but she's but you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: she's she's connected with Dean. So she's connected with him.
Speaker 6: And you can tell that because at that scene, they
Speaker 6: don't say a word to each other. He just steps
Speaker 6: aside and and she walks into the house like they
Speaker 6: don't need to.
Speaker 4: Say anything, right, right?
Speaker 6: But was that was that his house or was it
Speaker 6: his parents house?
Speaker 4: That's his parents house, which I'm surprised that he can
Speaker 4: just let her in because I wonder if they hate
Speaker 4: her or not. But here's the other thing I love
Speaker 4: about this episode. We get Logan. We obviously are not stupid.
Speaker 4: We know Oh that oh interesting, right, Obviously I assume
Speaker 4: they've hired Matt zugri On knowing what's to come. They're
Speaker 4: not pounding us over the head with Logan. We got
Speaker 4: just enough. Logan got a sprinkle of them. Yeah, And
Speaker 4: that's the thing that I think they do so well
Speaker 4: is like they dangle the carrot. We like him, we're in,
Speaker 4: but we're not being like, he's not at the party
Speaker 4: trying to kiss her. It's just like just enough. And
Speaker 4: so I'm a big fan of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's time. There's plenty of time, and we know
Speaker 3: they're going to take their time to develop which is
Speaker 3: the best way to do it.
Speaker 1: Yep, the best. It's the old school way to develop characters.
Speaker 1: And they have the time to do it.
Speaker 3: So you got to do it, because I mean, what
Speaker 3: is this show if not for its unique characters.
Speaker 1: It's and it's relationships. That's the show. You have to
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 4: So here's my other question for you guys. So you
Speaker 4: guys are remember the episode, remember an episode last week's Fights,
Speaker 4: this week's Tights when Rory goes out with the guy
Speaker 4: that Emily remember Emily knows his name was Graham. It
Speaker 4: was played by Teddy Dunn, the guy at the bar. Yes,
Speaker 4: remember that guy.
Speaker 1: The guy who who who hung out?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So I think I'm accurate in saying this,
Speaker 4: and I'm pretty sure I've read it, is that there
Speaker 4: was potential that Teddy Dunn was going to actually be
Speaker 4: Logan or some incarnation of Logan, and then he got
Speaker 4: Veronica Mars whatever whatever. And I get that because there
Speaker 4: are some similarities in Logan to Teddy Dunn and that
Speaker 4: we don't know it yet and we'll get there about
Speaker 4: the gilmour Is knowing the Huntsburgers, blah blah blah. So
Speaker 4: you can tell that Amy definitely wanted to write in
Speaker 4: a Yale Boy.
Speaker 1: There was a Yale Boy. It was take one form
Speaker 1: or another, but it was coming, and.
Speaker 4: I just am I'm very happy that it ended up
Speaker 4: being that souper.
Speaker 1: I am too. He's terrific. He's really terrific.
Speaker 4: I personally think it's a waste of time to do
Speaker 4: favorite lines because obviously I know what the favorite line is.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we all four agree that the favorite line.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll give an honorable mention for Paris's line about Asher,
Speaker 5: which one how and she goes, this great man was
Speaker 5: not brought down by my vagina. But I am all
Speaker 5: in trumps everything else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's not tarnish the famous anything.
Speaker 4: So okay, so now we have to think of what
Speaker 4: we're gonna brow.
Speaker 3: Oh well, I mean, you know, we're gonna, We're gonna.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give it a ten plus newsplay paper, horoscope clippings.
Speaker 4: Good one good one, giving it ten posters for Asher's Wake,
Speaker 4: Let's go on.
Speaker 5: I will give it nine out of ten. Luke flannels
Speaker 5: on loore line.
Speaker 6: Oh good and get that was mine? Oh, I will
Speaker 6: give it? Uh? What else is?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 6: What other items were in this episode?
Speaker 4: M potties? I was just I will just give it.
Speaker 4: I wanted to end this episode by saying I have to.
Speaker 1: Go deducting five, five tenths.
Speaker 4: Or sniffies, you'll give it nine ten?
Speaker 6: Danielle said nine, yeah, yeah, one tenth deduction Logan, Oh mine,
Speaker 6: mine is mine? The point five My point five is
Speaker 6: just the last scene with Dean because it just made
Speaker 6: me disappointed in Rory.
Speaker 4: It's gonna take a couple of years before Dan I
Speaker 4: can really get a good judge from Danielle on Logan
Speaker 4: because she's gonna go through some ups and downs.
Speaker 6: But also I feel like, Danielle, didn't you have like
Speaker 6: you like us watching we didn't know who Logan was
Speaker 6: coming into it. You've had us like telling you like, oh.
Speaker 5: I had such for Logan, like I thought he was
Speaker 5: going to be this unicorn and you know whatever, and
Speaker 5: I'm just like, yeah, I don't even have words. I
Speaker 5: just have that.
Speaker 6: Oh, the item I'll give it is is couches. I'll couches.
Speaker 4: But what about the lubin in tune? Remember wasn't Emily
Speaker 4: going or the pipe? The pipes?
Speaker 1: Everybody? I think we're done? Uh, I mean, I.
Speaker 5: Mean Laura Lai and Luke being I am all in
Speaker 5: is just everything I needed in this world.
Speaker 3: Right, this, this, this episode I think brought a lot
Speaker 3: of joy.
Speaker 1: To the loyal fans. Heck, it was almost better than
Speaker 1: a wedding.
Speaker 4: Right, This is to me one of the best episodes
Speaker 4: of the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is.
Speaker 6: So good.
Speaker 1: Yeah it really was. Anyway, thank you everybody for download.
Speaker 4: Oh My God. Next week is Tippy Canoe.
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