1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Wind Down with Jane Kramer and I Heart Radio podcast. 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: All Right, guys, so welcome to another week of wind Down. 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: I've got neighbor Pam with me. I'm here. UM, So 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to just throw a curveball on 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: this podcast. I have had a lot of people, I mean, 6 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of stuff in the news lately, 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: one being obviously Britney Spears, which I feel bad even 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: talking about because did you see the documentary I did, 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: And it's just like, I just want people to leave 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: her alone, like my heart. I mean, she's just so 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: scrutinized and it's yeah, like it just I feel bad, 12 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 1: But we are like and I feel like such a hypogram, 13 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: leave her alone. Let's talk about it on today and 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: wind dumb. But I do feel like there's so much 15 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: stuff out there, so you know, we just wanted to 16 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: get the people on that can just give us some 17 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: more understanding because I have a lot of questions around it. UM, 18 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: But we're going to have UM an editor, you're an 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: editor who has been reporting on all things, and then 20 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: a lawyer just to kind of catch us up to 21 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: speed and help us understand what a conservatorship is. UM. 22 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: And also yeah, but I do just feel bad because 23 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: I'm I'm friends with her sister, Jamie Lynn. I mean, 24 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: Jamie Lynn wrote, um, I got the boy, and I 25 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: I texted Jamie when I heard all this stuff um 26 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: in the media, and it just you know, I basically 27 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: just said, like, I'm praying for you and your family. 28 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: I think I know we don't know the full truth 29 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: of anything, and so just know that, like I'm here 30 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: as a friend, supporting you, caring about you, praying for you. 31 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: And she wrote back, you know, a sweet message, and 32 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, girl, you don't need to say anything. You 33 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: don't need to explain nothing to me. Like I'm just 34 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: literally saying, we don't know, like y'all like your family, 35 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: that is y'all's business. And unfortunately, I can't even imagine, 36 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: you know, being in that situation and the things that 37 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: like they're being so off to even Jamie Lynn, and 38 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's just like there's a lot that we 39 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: probably don't know. I mean, they're just a family in pain, 40 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: just like a lot of us have, you know, these 41 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: situations with families, but like nobody looks at them like 42 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: that and they don't get that grace or that you know, 43 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: understanding your kindness and it's sad. Yeah, and so again 44 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's Again I'm sure there's a lot we 45 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: don't know. And you know, my friendship to Jamie, I 46 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: would never ever dare to even ask, and that's not 47 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: my business. And that's why I'm like, I feel bad 48 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 1: talking about her sister because we're friends. But again, I 49 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: think it's just I don't even know what it is. 50 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: I mean I feel like, you know, it's like, what 51 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: are her rights and like if somebody is being you know, 52 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,839 Speaker 1: how you can have kids Like I think that's where 53 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: it kind of struck us, as like you know, being 54 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: women and them saying that she can't get the iu 55 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: D removed or get married. I mean, that's where that's crazy. 56 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 1: So we're gonna have Ashley Editor coming on very soon. 57 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: And then also I'm gonna throw a little curveball because 58 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: when I was on Daily Pop, apparently the government is 59 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: going to disclose that there are UFOs what so for that, 60 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: I know, so um, all things Brittany and UFOs coming 61 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: up next. Okay, So to kind of help break this 62 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: down a little bit, since I mean I've only just 63 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: seen what I've read and heard and stuff. But we 64 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: have Ashley Collins, who's actually the business editor for the 65 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: Hollywood Reporter, who's reporting on all things Brittany. So let's 66 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: get her in and let's chat about it. Ashley, thank 67 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: you so much for coming on wind Down. Okay, can 68 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: you just get us up to speed on all things Brittany. 69 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: So in the Brittany conservatorship world, people had always kind 70 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: of speculated whether or not she was okay with the arrangement. Uh, 71 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: closest sources close to her would say that she was unhappy. 72 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: The fans would be dissecting every little thing, very little thing. Yeah, 73 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: even you know, I was watching when I was watching 74 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: that documentary too, it's like, Wow, They're like she said 75 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: this word or it's like put this. I'm like, that's 76 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: like they really went deep into it. Yeah, she posted 77 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: three red pictures in a row. This is an s 78 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: OS Like her Instagram was like an Easter egg hunt 79 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: for people who were trying to figure out whether or 80 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: not she was okay. And so this week was the 81 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: first time she's ever publicly talked about it, and we 82 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: think that this is the first time that she talked 83 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: about it. So in the fall, a few things happened, 84 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: there was a push to make her dad less involved 85 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: and share sort of the business aspect of the conservatorship up. 86 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: And also her lawyer said in a filing for what 87 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: I believe was the first time that this has been 88 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: voluntary this whole time, And so I think that may 89 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: have been when she found out that it was voluntary, 90 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: based on some of the things she said this week, 91 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: and I think she was just done and ready to 92 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: speak her side of the story. I guess I just 93 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: don't understand, like, how how I mean, at thirty nine, 94 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: could she even be involved in a conservatorship because isn't 95 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: it mostly for people who are a lot older and 96 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: can't speak or Yeah, it's very confusing for a lot 97 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: of reasons. It's been going on for a long time, 98 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: and I think part of the issue is this hasn't 99 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: really happened before, at least not to anyone high profile. 100 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: There are I'm sure people who are similarly situated who 101 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: we don't hear about because the private people. But you're right, 102 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: this is generally something that is put into place to 103 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: help older individuals as they start to physically and mentally decline, 104 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: and typically these end when that person dies. And so 105 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: having somebody who's been in a situation like this one 106 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: out of it isn't something that happens very often. So 107 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: what do you think that will we hear from Jamie 108 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: a side the dad on why or you know what 109 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: her because you know, I mean, I if I'm watching 110 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: her Instagram, she's clearly not the Brittany that I've grew 111 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: up with. I mean, she seems you know, I I don't. 112 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, like I don't know you know her 113 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: health or what her um mental state is. I mean, 114 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: is there something where that will come out to be like, hey, 115 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: this is in her best interest to not have another baby, 116 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: you or even though I don't think it's right to 117 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: have anyone control their body, having said that, if they're 118 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: not physically capable, Like, I don't know, Yeah, the Instagram 119 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: situation is strange. I agree that it doesn't seem like her, 120 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: and it'll be interesting to see how that changes moving forward, 121 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: like if her posts do become a little bit more 122 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: like what we would expect from her, and maybe this 123 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: was just a cry for help the whole time. I'll 124 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: be interested to see what her dad says now. Because 125 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: they took a twenty minute recess so that his side 126 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: could comment, and then it was like a lame, one sentence, 127 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry she feels this way. Basically, the medical stuff 128 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: is interesting and very sad, and it could very well 129 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: be that they're in a situation where she does want 130 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: to have another kid and her family is questioning whether 131 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: or not she should do that. But again, like they do, 132 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: do they do like yearly mental evaluations or something like 133 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: who is saying and how are they saying that she's incapable? 134 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: So the tough that's a tough question because there is 135 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: a court of investigator assigned to Brittany who's basically her 136 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: job is to make sure that this is working for her. 137 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: Those reports are confidential, so we don't know other than 138 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: seeing on the docket. It will pop up, but there's 139 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: no way to tell what they found. So The New 140 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: York Times referenced one from a couple of weeks ago 141 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: in a story earlier this week that was leaked, and 142 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: she told the investigator then that she wanted to get out, 143 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: and the investigator passed that information along, but apparently they 144 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: determined at the time that it wasn't right. I don't 145 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: think Brittany formally petitioned to get out of it, but 146 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: she at least made her wishes known then, and so 147 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: now she's saying she out and she doesn't want them 148 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: to do any kind of psych evaluation because she feels 149 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: like she's seeing too many strange therapists and psychiatrists. And 150 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: yet it may be tough for her to prove that 151 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: she's ready to run her own life without taking that step. 152 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: But she's still working and like making her own money. Yeah, 153 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: so she's what is she working on? Because she says 154 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: she's not gonna tour and obviously she's gonna have she's 155 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: you know, I think over the past however many years 156 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: it's been twenty year, I don't know, fifteen years that 157 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: it's been, she's worked that whole. How long has the 158 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: conservaship it's worked the entire time? Um, I mean that's 159 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: showing capability. The only thing is is like I look 160 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: back and it's like, okay, thirteen years from then. Again, 161 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 1: just watching her Instagram, it just seems like she has 162 00:09:55,520 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: continued to mentally maybe not be there in my like 163 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: this is where I'm just this would be terrible. But 164 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: like I'm like, what are they giving her? Are they 165 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: giving her these pills or are they giving her something 166 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: to like make her like which is just awful to 167 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: think about. But you think, you know, I mean, look 168 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: at Michael Jackson or or wasn't what didn't he get 169 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: like fed pills? I mean, you see these people that 170 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: are just given things because they're under this. They either 171 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: trust the doctor or they trust this you know, their 172 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: father or whatever. It's like you just you don't. I 173 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: don't know, it's just but watching the decline has been 174 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: like super sad. Obviously as someone you know, a huge, 175 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: huge fan of her and the whole situation, and she 176 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: seemed way more together when this first happened. So that's 177 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: where I just some kind of like, uh, yeah, it's 178 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: a tough situation. And obviously she feels like the people 179 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: around her weren't listening to her and weren't doing what 180 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: was in her best interest. But I would like to 181 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: believe that they at least thought they were. But part 182 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: of the issue here is anytime you're dealing with mental health. 183 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,479 Speaker 1: First of all, I don't want to diagnose her um, 184 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: but she said this week that she knows she doesn't 185 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: at least need some therapy, that there's stuff going on 186 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: who doesn't. We're all we all have. Sometimes people in 187 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: that situation immediately turned to medication, and not every medication 188 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: is right for every person, and so it could have 189 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: been a situation where they're like, Okay, well she's not 190 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: getting quote unquote better, so let's try more or let's 191 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: try different, instead of listening to what she said wasn't 192 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: wasn't working. Yeah, I mean, I just I had a 193 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: similar A friend was telling me about like this intervention 194 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: they had on one of these artists who they just 195 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: they tried one thing, one pill, and the doctor just 196 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 1: kept giving the medicine. Because it's like when you get 197 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: these rock docks, they'll just give you. I mean, I 198 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: could call a doctor and be like, hey I need 199 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: and they're like, okay, great, they don't they don't really 200 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: see what else you're taking or this and then the other, 201 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: so it's like they're sometimes they just keep adding and 202 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: finally they're like you can't even walk on stage, like 203 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: you like you got to clean out all this stuff. 204 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: And so it's just scary and like, yeah, of course, 205 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: like like you said, like you want to hope that 206 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: someone is doing it for their best interest, but when 207 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: there's I don't know again, I'm like, maybe it's just 208 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: because where I'm at my life, I'm like hard time 209 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: trusting anyone right now. But I'm like with all that money, 210 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: and I don't know, like how do they decide, I mean, 211 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: if they can, they can be reversed, and like when 212 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: would we will we know anything? So there's not like 213 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: a hard deadline, but there is a hearing set for 214 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: next month. I can't remember the date off the top 215 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: of my head, and I'm sure that the judge is 216 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: going to ask for some kind of status update because 217 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: her response was Okay, well, clearly you want out of this, 218 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: like please put it in writing. But there was also 219 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: a bit of a discussion about her wanting to hire 220 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: her own lawyer, which is complicated because in the conservatorship, 221 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: like the conservatorship has to hire her lawyer, so which 222 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: actually makes no sense because I mean, she should be 223 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 1: able to hire her own like, so then the institution 224 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: that is, you know, she's she should be able to 225 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: have her own lawyer. Yeah, And the tricky thing is, though, 226 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: if they decide that she's well enough to have her 227 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: a lawyer, then that kind of immediately answers the question 228 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,599 Speaker 1: as to whether she's well enough to be in this situation. 229 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: So I'm this hasn't happened before, at least not in 230 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: the public eye, So I would expect that in the 231 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks will see some kind of a 232 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: petition filed. I don't know how her family is going 233 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: to react to it. I don't know if there I'm 234 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: gonna just say, Okay, let's let you out of it 235 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: and see what happens, or if they're going to want 236 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: her to be evaluated to make sure that she's ready, 237 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: because I think if they thought she was, they would 238 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: have said, okay, it's time to end this. But again, 239 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: not who knows what's going on in any of their heads. 240 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: It just makes me sad again the you know, we're 241 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: hearing that she couldn't have another kid or get married. 242 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: It's like that that broke my heart because it's who 243 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: for anybody to be restricted from that just cruel. It's 244 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: just yeah, that that that, like, of all the stuff 245 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: I was like that one just I mean, I can't 246 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: even imagine like that. That's just awful. But I mean, where, 247 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: what are what are your kind of like final thoughts 248 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: on this? Actually, Like do you think you know because 249 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: you don't know. Like you said, it's never it's never 250 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: been like this. Do you think that she you know, 251 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: she she will be able to get out even though 252 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: it's never been like this. I hope so, because it's 253 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: clearly not working for her, and the point of this 254 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: is to help the person, right, So if her family 255 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: wants to help her and the people around her want 256 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: to help her, and she's saying, this isn't helping me, 257 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: this is making things worse, then you would hope they 258 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: would find some way to end it while still maybe 259 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: giving her some kind of support. You know, I don't 260 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: know what that looks like. I I would imagine that 261 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: this will be messy. I unfortunately do not think this 262 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: is going to be a clean like she files one 263 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: petition and her family says great, and the investigator says great, 264 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: and then it's just done. I expect that this is 265 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: going to drag out for a little bit. But I 266 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: hope that everyone involved is at least being mindful of 267 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: what she said this week and actually you know, hearing 268 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: just listening. Yeah, they need to listen to her too, 269 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: and yeah, and put things into action. And it just 270 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: makes me sad, Like from watching that documentary too, it's 271 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: just everyone. And I even't feel bad at having this conversation. 272 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: It's like everyone's always just talking about her and like, 273 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: you know, picking on her, and it's just her life 274 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: is just spin. I remember actually sat on an airplane 275 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: next to Larry her at the time. It was her 276 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: um manager um, and he was just like, look over 277 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: and he's told me that you know, he worked with 278 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: Britney Spears, and he's like, look right out the window 279 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: airplane window right now. He's like, every single person knows 280 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: who Britney Spears. Is not one person out there does 281 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: not know who she is. And I'm like, man, like, 282 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: just having America Ripper apart and again watching that documentary, 283 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: I just felt I felt awful for It's like, can 284 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: people just stop controlling her? And yeah, that's why she 285 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: lost her mind. I mean, you got a jug right here. 286 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: I mean she's Hamlin's got a mug that says Britney 287 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: survived two thousand seven, you can survive today. It's like, 288 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, she's I feel terribly. Let her 289 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: just live her life. Life is hard enough without everyone 290 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: in the world having an opinion about how you're living yours. 291 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: Amen to that. Well, actually, thank you so much for 292 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: coming on and keep giving us the real news. Okay, 293 00:16:55,920 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: I will thanks, all right, thanks. Okay, Now we are 294 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: going to bring on Benny, and Benny is a she's 295 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: a lawyer, UM last fifteen years, so we're going to 296 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: just kind of ask her on the law side, um, 297 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: what she thinks about all of this. Hey, how are 298 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: you good? How are you guys good? Thank you so 299 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: much for coming on. Wine down. So we just got 300 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: off with Ashley. He was a reporter that's been kind 301 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: of following all the Britney stuff and on the law side, 302 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: we just have so many questions, So if it's cool, 303 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: can we just jump right on in absolutely? Okay? How 304 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: can a thirty nine year old be in a conservatorship? 305 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: So basically there's a triggering event um, which was her 306 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: um what a lot of people call like, you know, 307 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:48,239 Speaker 1: psychiatric breakdown thirteen years ago where um, you know, this 308 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 1: was like right after she had had her babies, and 309 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: you know, the documentary that that we all saw sort 310 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 1: of explains that UM and typically conservator ships are literally 311 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: to concern of a human being when there is a 312 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: threat that they cannot you know, manage their own personal 313 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: decisions and their own financial affairs. So the court literally 314 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 1: appoints another person UM to manage that those decisions so 315 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: that the person who is being conserved, called the conservative 316 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: UM is conserved and UM, you know, they're they're protected 317 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: from basically a host of bad things that can happen 318 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: to them. And typically the conservatorship you know, last until 319 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: like the person dies, because it's usually for like older people. 320 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: And so that's why I think this case is kind 321 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: of a little bit more unique. Absolutely, you you hit 322 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: the nail right on the head there. UM. Traditionally and 323 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: commonly conservatorships are for for elderly disabled adult olds UM. 324 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: And so this is a case that is very unusual 325 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: in that UM, what started out as potentially UM a 326 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: temporary measure to protect her has turned into like a 327 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: very restrictive UM life long you know, like commitment UM 328 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: to be conserved and have somebody else make the decisions 329 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: for you UM. And certainly, I think normally the way 330 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: a conservatorship terminates is when a person dies. So this 331 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: case raises a question of she's thirty nine years old 332 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: and hopefully she has many many many decades ahead of her, 333 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: and is she going to be under this conservatorship until 334 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: she dies. Clearly, um, you know that's problematic from a 335 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: standpoint of somebody who potentially had an issue and needed 336 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: to be conserved but no longer UM needs that. This 337 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: is probably I have to really stupid questions. One she 338 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: said she had an I U d M and she 339 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,239 Speaker 1: just go to the guy in cologist herself and be like, 340 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: take my I D out because like it's not like 341 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: she walks around with her conservatorship paperwork saying like, well 342 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: it says right here that I have to keep this 343 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: in Like can she just be like enough f that, 344 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: like I want this I D out. So it's it's 345 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: really it's it's not a dumb question. Actually, that's something 346 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: that really struck out to me when reading her transcript, 347 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: is that important reproductive choices. We're being like the conservatorship 348 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:34,959 Speaker 1: controls her rights, uh you know, her like reproductive rights, 349 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: which uh it seems you know, really unusual. And the 350 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: other like really unusual aspect of it is. Um. So, 351 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: so I don't know that I don't have all the 352 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: information to exactly answer that question about whether she has 353 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: that freedom. Certainly, based on her words, she does not 354 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: at least feel like she has that freedom or she's 355 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: been told she doesn't have that freedom to just deny 356 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: that and say no, I don't want, you know, this 357 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: device that prevents me from procreating. UM. The other unusual 358 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: aspect of it when I read the interview was, you know, 359 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: she mentioned being administered lithium. And from my uh, you 360 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: know knowledge of the law and conservatorships is that you 361 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: cannot force someone to take a psychiatric medication without a 362 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: different type of conservatorship like those are usually called LPs conservatorships. 363 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: And I'll admit that I'm not really familiar with all 364 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: the details of this particular conservatorship, but to my knowledge, 365 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: at least what's publicly available I'm not aware of, they're 366 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: also being an LPs conservatorship over um MS spears. Do 367 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: you do you think she'll be able to get out? Um? 368 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: You know, I think that nobody can doubt, you know, 369 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: the eloquent and powerful way in which she delivered her 370 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: statement to the court. I do believe that. UM. You know, 371 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: she has definitely started that conversation and saying something like 372 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: I didn't know that I could terminate this conservatorship. UM. 373 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,719 Speaker 1: You know the best thing about this particular cases that 374 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: it happens to be before a judge that is amazing. 375 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: I mean, she's probably one of the best judges on 376 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 1: in the probate court in Los Angeles, So she is 377 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: not going to let a statement like that go without 378 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: actually exploring to see, you know, what needs to happen, like, 379 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: do do restrictions need to be lifted? Does this conservatorship 380 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: need to be terminated? Like all of those conversations have 381 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: now started and are well underway. Another really stupid question, 382 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 1: but because the conservatorship was her father, you know, her 383 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: father was the person doing it, isn't I mean, he's 384 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: a guardian. So it's like, I mean, why would you 385 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: have to put a conservatorship when you're a parent, Because 386 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: when you guardianships are from in her children, your parents 387 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: is your minor. And then when you're an adult and 388 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: if you need to be conserved and somebody needs to 389 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: be made your decision, then you become a conservatore to 390 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: to be able to have that official authority. Got it, 391 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: got it, got it? Got it? Well, thanks for your insight. 392 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Yeah, you know your stuff. Of 393 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: course we're gonna have We're gonna have you back on. 394 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: We got some more law questions for you. Sure, okay, 395 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: all right by girl. Well, I just because how do 396 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,239 Speaker 1: I say? It's in my twisted movie brain and I'm like, oh, 397 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: he's probably paying off the judges. He's gonna pay off 398 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: this person, because it's just I think money ruins families 399 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: for sure. But I just hope and pray that whatever 400 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: is meant to be, and I just hope that she 401 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: gets the help, she gets what she wants, and there's 402 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: just support because I mean, again, we don't know the 403 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: full the full situation. I think, you know, the very least. 404 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: Just people just need to listen to her words. Yes, 405 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: very well said. Okay, it's the moment we've all been 406 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: waiting for. Um UFOs pamelin Do you think they are real? Yes? Yes? 407 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: Oh my god. I thought for sure you're gonna say no. 408 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, here we go. I do 409 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: you do you think there's so many like unexplained weird 410 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: things that have happened that that's the answer for me. 411 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: So if you think there's UFOs, that means that there's aliens. 412 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: So what kind of like, wow, do you which alien 413 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: do you? Because there's been a lot of alien movies, 414 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: So what does that alien look like to you, like 415 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: who's flying the UFO flying the ship? Right? I mean 416 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: I think it's Tom Cruise. Is it like the it's 417 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: a similar like similar to human? Oh you think it's 418 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: human like not like they like Rihanna, they resemble humans, 419 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: but like you know, like a body in arms and 420 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Okay, So like if we're talking 421 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: um Will Smith Independence Day, is it like body arms 422 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,479 Speaker 1: like that or do you think it really has like 423 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: our kind of flesh? And I mean I think it's 424 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: more it's just like you know what, I'm visualizing my head. 425 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 1: Who who am I to even? Like no, but I 426 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: just like visualized like it really almost like an like 427 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: they're a hundred years old looking, you know what I mean, 428 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: just like really like thin and like just Crawley, I 429 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: don't know. Do you think people have been abducted by aliens? 430 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: I mean people say they have listen to their words, 431 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: listen to their words, like who are we to say? True? 432 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: I mean the guy and again Independence Day, he was 433 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: he saw it coming. I one thousand percent believe that 434 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: there's aliens. I'm I believe in all of it. I 435 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: believe in ghosts, I believe in area what what's the 436 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: area fifty fifty something? You are together? That's Oh, I 437 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 1: think it's something like that. That's area fifty one. I think, well, 438 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: I believe the government has been hiding that stuff for 439 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: us for years. Yeah, Area fifty one. I mean, so 440 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, where is it? Let's go do it? Um Mark, 441 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: do you believe in aliens? I believe in aliens in 442 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: the grand sense of the universe, Like if the universe 443 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: is intimate, I don't believe it's possible that there couldn't 444 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: be some other form of life somewhere, just by the 445 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: definition of infinity. But I don't know that. I believe 446 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: that we've been visited, and I don't know. I think 447 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: it might be like, you know, if you picture a 448 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: beach and we're a grain of sand in Huntington's Beach 449 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: and the aliens are on a grain of sand in 450 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: Newport Beach, like they're never going to find each other. 451 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: You know, it's like that kind of a situation Easton. 452 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,719 Speaker 1: I like the idea of them, but I don't know 453 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:13,479 Speaker 1: if I I just feel like, um, we must be 454 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 1: so primitive to any anything that has the ability to 455 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: come to Earth, Like I feel like it would be like, uh, 456 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: why why make like I'm not out there trying to 457 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: make contact with the squirrel on my on my fence, 458 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: you know, because he has nothing to offer me. So 459 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: I feel like, I don't know. I feel like they're 460 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: out there, but they're not going to bother Earth because 461 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: it's like, what do we have for them? You know, everything, 462 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 1: every ever anything. We've got food, we've got technology, we've 463 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: got Earth. I mean even Jolie said the other just 464 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: like I love our planet, Like our planet is great, 465 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: it's great, Yeah, but like for an elevated life for him, 466 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: I mean, they must have bigger fish to fry, that's 467 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: what stuff. Yeah, oh they want they want that. Do 468 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: we know that? I mean they're probably, Yeah, they're insane, 469 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: amnicable of aret eating all those tiros, you know, like 470 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: they're they're they're loving it. Although I feel like they 471 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: look like the ones from Oh God it was It 472 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 1: wasn't an be a quiet place. That's that's how I imagine. 473 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: I did see a thing in the news where they're 474 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: like extraterrestrials are probably landed on Earth. But get this, 475 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: their bacteria and they're single cells, and I'm like, that's stupid. Yeah, 476 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: that's lame. That's uninteresting. Yeah, that's super uninteresting because obviously, 477 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: like I, I believe in that stuff too. But I 478 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: do think that we are not alone. I agree, oh um, 479 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: but we have a UFO. I think he's like a 480 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: specialist on the UFOs. He's his name is Nick Pope 481 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: and he's a former UK Ministry of Defense employee. So um, 482 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: he goes on record and talks all about his beliefs 483 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: and opinions and um, he's a basically a UFO investigator. 484 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: So I'm very interested to see, uh what he has 485 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: to say about that, because when that came up on 486 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: Daily Pop, I was like, yes, I want to know more. Um, 487 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: so coming up. I love Nick Pope. Do you love 488 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: witty sarcasm and talking fast? And are you longing to 489 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: return to stars Hollow for one more trip to Kim's Antiques? 490 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: So just to pick up a few things at Dosie's 491 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: Market is an overnight stay. It's a dragon flame on 492 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: your list of plans for a getaway is a burger 493 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: from Luke Steiner on the menu for tonight. This is 494 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: Scott Patterson. I was Luke Danes for one fifty three 495 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: episodes and in four Netflix movies I Am all In 496 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio podcast. Come hang with us. We're 497 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: rewatching together. We're visiting with all our favorite cast and 498 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: crew members. We talked fast. We've got a lot to say. 499 00:29:43,600 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: Listen to I Am all In wherever you listen to podcasts. Nick, Yes, Hello, 500 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm hello. Oh the accent. Yes, Hillo, 501 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: it's so nice to meet you. Likewise likewise, So, we 502 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: were just having the great debate about UFOs, and I've 503 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: been told that the government is going to release some 504 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: UFO information. Do you know anything about that? Yes, it 505 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: is supposed to be today. Stop really yeah, absolutely, Um, 506 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: there are rumors flying around, there are leaks coming out 507 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: of Washington d C. I mean, this report was requested 508 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: from Director of National Intelligence by the Senate Intelligence Committee, 509 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: and today is the deadline. So if it's any later 510 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: than today, they will have missed that deadline. So we'll 511 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: watch and wait and hope. I mean, you obviously believe 512 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: in UFOs, and have you seen a UFO Sadly, I've 513 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: never seen anything myself, but I have investigated them for 514 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,479 Speaker 1: the British government and that's a job I did at 515 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: the Ministry of Defense in the nineties. So so I'm 516 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by this subject to me, and they can 517 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: be few bigger or more profound questions than are we 518 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: alone or not in the universe? And if we're not alone, 519 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: my goodness, are we being visited? Have you what? What 520 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: did you find from your investigations? Like that there that 521 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: it is? There is, it's out there? Um, there's just 522 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: something that you found that you would love to share 523 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: about your investigation. Well, sadly, we didn't find a smoking gun, 524 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: so I can't point you to any one piece of 525 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: evidence that says this is a extraterrestrial But we had, 526 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: and the US government has, and that's why I guess 527 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: we're getting this report to Congress. A number of cases 528 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: where these things have been seen by military pilots, tracked 529 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: on radar, performing extraordinary speeds and maneuvers that we simply 530 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: can't match. And obviously people are saying to themselves, look, 531 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: whatever is going on, it's a figure out. Is it 532 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: Russia or is it kinda or is it somewhere a 533 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: little further away. We need to find out. I mean, 534 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: do you do you believe that an alien is flying 535 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: that UFL? I hope so of of I mean aliens. 536 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: Aliens would be far more interesting than Russians. So of 537 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: all the theories that are out there, I think it's 538 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: the most intriguing. And I'm not sure this report just 539 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: because governments just don't come out and say, hey, people, 540 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: there's aliens. So I'm not sure that this report to 541 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: Congress is going to say that. It will probably say, well, 542 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: we haven't found any evidence, but neither can we rule 543 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: out the possibility we need to ramp up the effort 544 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: to figure out what's going on in ours guys, if 545 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: and when that happens. What would you like to Ben? Like, 546 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: what would you ask him? Like this is so weird, 547 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: Like what would you want to know from like the 548 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: alien species? Like what would be like the one thing 549 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: like if you could like communicate with them, that would 550 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: you would like want to know? I think if I 551 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: could have just one question, I would say to them, 552 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: what he is the most profound thing you have learned 553 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: from your journey as a civilization. I would just speak insane, 554 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: like I just hope they're nice, you know, like they go. 555 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: If if they're not, we're in big trouble. Because, frankly, 556 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: I mean, any any civilization with the technology to get 557 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: here from there. Given the it, even our fastest space probes, 558 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: if we'd aimed them at the nearest star aside from 559 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: our own son, it would take seventy five thousand years 560 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: to get there. So any civilization that's visiting us has 561 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: technology orders of magnitude above and beyond anything we've got, 562 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: so absolutely we'd better hope they're friendly, because if they're not, 563 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,439 Speaker 1: we're in big trouble. I mean when you say that, though, 564 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, how is that really possible? Though, 565 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: that like that far away there's I mean, I always 566 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: think that we're not, like, we're not alone. I do 567 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: believe that, But the fact that there's this other technology 568 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: that's light years away, I mean, do you really truly 569 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 1: think that's a possibility? Yes, I think so, There's there's 570 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: nothing unless we thought that planet Earth was almost literally magical, 571 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: I mean, and the more we find out about ourselves 572 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: and the wider universe actually more ordinary. We leok, just 573 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 1: just an ordinary, rocky little planet orbiting a fairly ordinary 574 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: little star. And and there are hundreds of billions of 575 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: stars just in our one galaxy, and then hundreds of 576 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: billions of galaxies in the universe. You know, there was 577 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: a scientific study last year and it was just a guess, 578 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: and it came in with a really low number, and 579 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: it said there might only be only thirty six alien 580 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,439 Speaker 1: civilizations in our galaxy. And then I did the math 581 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: and I said, wait a minute, that means that in 582 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: the known universe there would be seventy two trillion civilizations. 583 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: And my goodness, look, if we just find one other civilization, 584 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 1: it's such a game changer that that it would be 585 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: beyond profound. That's what would science be able to like 586 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: learn from that? I mean, what's like, why are we 587 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: obsessed with, you know, knowing about it just because we 588 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: can learn so much from how their civilization works? Yes, 589 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: I think so. I mean one of the things that 590 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: we hopefully would learn is the secret of a viable 591 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: interstellar travel, so that we too could travel between the 592 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 1: stars and visit other civilizations and not be in a 593 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,399 Speaker 1: situation where where it would just take it, as I say, 594 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: seventy five thousand years to get to the nearest one. 595 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: So so I'd love to acquire that technology, I suppose, 596 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 1: and have a situation where that was something that humanity 597 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: had access to. But who knows, I mean, pun intended, 598 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: but the sky is the limit and and hopefully they 599 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: would have insights for us that might help us um 600 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: in our struggle to end and you know, starvation, disease, poverty, 601 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 1: all sorts of problems. Yeah, well, Nick, thank you so 602 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: much for coming on. I appreciate all the insight and 603 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 1: hopefully we'll we'll get some juicy details and we can 604 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: fly up in a UFO together soon, well I hope, 605 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: so look forward to it absolutely. Okay, thank you Nick 606 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: so much, appreciate it. Sure thing by now. For more 607 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 1: information on UFO, watch UFOs Declassified Live, a three hour 608 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 1: multi platform event beginning at eight pm Eastern five pm 609 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: Pacific on Wednesday June Discovery Science Channel and Travel Channel. Okay, 610 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: well that was fascinating and um yeah, it's just I'm 611 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: not going to be able to sleep tonight because I 612 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,919 Speaker 1: don't know if the kids a sleekend, So I don't 613 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,479 Speaker 1: think they'll hurt you. They would like love you, see, 614 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: like I imagine that they look like the things from 615 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: Quiet Place, but that they like they wrap you up 616 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,800 Speaker 1: in warm hugs, like they just want to be friends. 617 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: Like I can't handle it anymore, Like no more meanness, 618 00:37:54,320 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: no honestly, this is so morbid. Not morbid, but just weird. 619 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: I've always wanted to go into the countries that we 620 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: have a hard time with and be like, why can't 621 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: we just get along? Like what do you need? Like 622 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: how can I help? Like like copy from trolls? That's you. 623 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: I've never seen from trolls, and I do not like trolls. 624 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: What I don't know? What's they're weird? Poppies amazing, not love? 625 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 1: I like the cartoons were not cartoons, but like the movies, 626 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: the kids movies, words like Riot, like that's a human being. 627 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not like a big The only 628 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: one that I like that's not that's Ferdinand, Like how 629 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 1: could you not like Ferdinand? But like everything else, I'm like, 630 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: I can't relate to I can't relate to a troll. 631 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: I hate rolls. Trolls are made on the internet. I 632 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: don't like trolls. I don't want to watch a movie 633 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: about trolls. These ones like you know, like just throw 634 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 1: confetti and love and they're sweet? What about toy Story? 635 00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: What he is? A So it's not my favorite. I'll 636 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: be honest with you. It's it's not It's not my favorite, 637 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: but he is still a semi person, you know, like 638 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: because Woody and Buzz not too much. Mr Potato had 639 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,439 Speaker 1: in the Dinersy, that's where you lose me. Yeah, that's 640 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: that's where. That's where you honestly lose me. Um. But like, 641 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,919 Speaker 1: like up gotta love up. You know. Cars, No, don't 642 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: like it. I don't. I don't relate to a car, 643 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: you know. It's like it's like, how could I relate 644 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: to Oh, sorry you didn't when you raise buddy, Like 645 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: but yeah, any any like you know that's a that's 646 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: actually a person. Like that's where you're gonna get me, 647 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,240 Speaker 1: but you're not gonna literally the only one is Ferdinand. 648 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 1: That's that I like, Babe, huh that's the pig. Oh 649 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: that's the best you've even seen it? That's old school. 650 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: I mean maybe I shoot, I got ruined talking about 651 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: dogs last time, so like she's a terrible person. She 652 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: got I'm like, I don't get rid of them. Were 653 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 1: just we're sharing custody, okay people parents, but yeah, I 654 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: mean even I mean homeward Bound. I guess it's cute, 655 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 1: but secret life of Pets No, I don't like it. Okay, well, 656 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: but I will say this, there is one that's that 657 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 1: I do like, but again very relatable because there it's 658 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: a human form. Ish is sing, oh yeah, okay, because 659 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: it's so long as they're people if they look like animals. 660 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: But then there's trolls aren't real, they're just real and 661 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: the Internet Zootopia. Do you like Zutopia? So that's what 662 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: I was also going to say, is Utopia to where 663 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: it's like, again it's human stuff that look they look 664 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 1: more human. I don't know, Like I don't like the Grinch, 665 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 1: Hate the Grinch, hate the Grine. They don't look like 666 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: real people. They look as human as the character. Like 667 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 1: the way they look. They freaked me out. They scared me. 668 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 1: J Cramer hates Who's it's going to be the headline? 669 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I don't think they're relatable. 670 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: I like Janna doesn't relate freak about it? Oh gosh, 671 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: I know, like the Simpsons they're yellow when they have 672 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 1: over bites. Is that a problem? I don't get their humors. 673 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: I never watched it. I agree, but it's not because 674 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 1: of the humanoid nature of it. You just don't care. 675 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: I will say also that too, like you know that 676 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: it's just yeah, I don't. I don't like it, Like 677 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: it has to be four fingers. Yeah, it has to 678 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: be believable to me, you know. I mean, give me 679 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: something else, like I'm talking a lad, like even like 680 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 1: Beauting the Beast, like all those are great. You know, 681 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: I'm having a tough one with Luca. I've only watched 682 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: half of it. Joelian didn't like it. I didn't watch it. Yeah, 683 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: I've only I've only gotten through half of it. But 684 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: now give me like a movie like Riot, like when 685 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,879 Speaker 1: she says I'll take the first step, Like I'm like, oh, 686 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: I feel you, sister. Now we just rewatched a Little 687 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 1: Mermaid this week? How do you feel about mermaids? Amazing? 688 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 1: But they live underwater and they have fins. Isn't that 689 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: a problem? But she has legs at the end turns 690 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 1: into it. She makes the right decision in the end. 691 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Okay, this show is just turned super wacky. Um, 692 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 1: I love you guys. Have a great one.