1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of the Odd Couple podcasts. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday from seven 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: pm to ten pm Eastern four to seven Pacific on 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. 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Don't do that? 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: Don't you like these kids out here who are tweeting 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: me going, I don't see it and see the video? 16 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 4: I said, any cameras back. Do you have the video 17 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 4: from when the dinosaurs roam the earth? 18 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: Oh? 19 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,319 Speaker 4: There were no dinosaurs? You set yourself up for that one. 20 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: That's Alex, Alex. That's like talking to Alex. Look at them, Alex. 21 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: Let's go to the Lebrier torpit. Those are fake. 22 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 4: Well and have that Kinko's evidence. We'd all wonder. Okay, 23 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 4: that is a good point, and I still got that condition. 24 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 3: Badmata Bio dropped a career high eighty three points last 25 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 3: night in their win over the Wizards. Whether it was 26 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 3: ethical and ethical, let you guys decide. But here's the facts. 27 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 3: Eighty three points, twenty of forty three from the field, 28 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: thirty six of forty three from the free throw line, 29 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 3: seven to twenty two from deep stat line. Unlike anything 30 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 3: we'd ever seen name of history. Not only did he 31 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 3: become the first player to ever score at least seventy 32 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 3: while shooting below fifty percent from the field, his free 33 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 3: throw attempts and free throw makes are both new NBA records, 34 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: and his twenty two to three point attempts were the 35 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 3: third most in NBA history. Long story short, Bam out 36 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 3: of Bayo, the silver medalist, eighty three points NBA history. 37 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 4: I got a name for him. What is it? Sham 38 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 4: out of Bio. He's a sham. 39 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: This is a fraud, This is fugazy sham out of Bio. 40 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 4: That is your new name? Are you kidding me? 41 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: What we watched was the NBA being bastardized. I thought 42 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: I was watching a Harlem globe Trotters game. The Washington 43 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: Generals were playing instead of the Washington Wizards, and. 44 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 4: Shame on Eric Sposter to go along with this. 45 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: This guy won an NBA championship and he's conforming to 46 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: this clownery. What in the world is going on in 47 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 1: Miami and pat Riley sitting through this? If I didn't 48 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: have this radio show right now, you know what I 49 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: would do. I would drive downtown Los Angeles with a 50 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: wet blanket and I would throw it over his statue 51 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: in front of Crypto dot com Marina, because that's what 52 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: pat Riley. Pat Riley, who's been around the league since 53 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: Moby Dick was a guppy, There's no way he could 54 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: watch that and feel good about it. In fact, I 55 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: couldn't even see any cutaways of pat Riley last night, 56 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: did you. 57 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 4: I didn't say they did one. Okay, there's two, I'll tell. 58 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: You, but the one, the one you saw, he had 59 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: his hands over his ears because you couldn't believe what 60 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: he was watching. 61 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 4: What a sham? 62 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: How do you even go home and make love to 63 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: your girlfriend after that? It doesn't even feel good? Are 64 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: you kidding? 65 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 4: That's an athletic love? 66 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: Kelvin, Yes, I've been covering sports for a long time. 67 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: This is my fortieth year of covering sports in the media. 68 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: For zero you're barely you're forty three years old. I've 69 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: been covering sports since you were three years old. And 70 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: I've never seen an event like this that was so 71 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: pre fabricated, so phony, such a three dollar bills that 72 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: just stake to the high heaven. It was awful to 73 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: watch everybody involves your be embarrassed. And you know what 74 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: this is, Adam Silver's legacy rolled up in one A 75 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: team that can't wait to lose into Washington Wizards, right 76 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: or trying to lose. And then you're worried about canceling 77 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: Magic City Night, and you got this kind of basketball 78 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: with a fraudulent number, and you let Sham now Sam 79 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: push out Kobe's name when talking about the all time Grant. 80 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: It ain't Will and Kobe, it's now Will and Sham. 81 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: That's the sham about it. That's the disgrace, man. 82 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 5: If y'all don't stop it with this fake outrage. First 83 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 5: of all, you call him sham out of Bayo, I'm 84 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 5: calling him eighty out of Bayou. Bam, eighty out of 85 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 5: value is out here doing something that to me. 86 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 4: We sat here, we're sitting here. 87 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 5: Steve goes wait, by the way, he gives us his update, 88 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 5: thirty one points in the first quarter for BAM, which 89 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 5: automatically lets you know, oh, shoot, this might be one 90 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 5: of those nights. 91 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 4: This might be a magical night. 92 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 5: Could have been sixty sick to cout your right and 93 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,119 Speaker 5: one right and agins was it forty three? I believe 94 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 5: in halftime, now you're starting to go, oh, this can 95 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 5: be an insane night. Bam out of Value is not 96 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 5: known for jacking up shots. He's not known for being 97 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 5: a ball hog. He's not bowing. He's known for playing hard, 98 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 5: he's non for playing the right way, he's non for 99 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 5: playing a team guy. 100 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 4: Everyone respects his game. So the idea that just. 101 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 5: For one night, one night, Bam out of Value is on, 102 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 5: and Bam out of Value had it going and the 103 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 5: team celebrated it. 104 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 4: Knowing when he got forty three free told you if 105 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 4: you would. 106 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 5: Knocking down shots outside that rot we set literally you 107 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 5: sat there, I said here, and we watch him have 108 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 5: about sixty eight points that people want to call it 109 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 5: legitimate or ethical, and at a certain point they said, 110 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 5: screw that. We're about to run for it, and we're 111 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 5: about to go for it. And this is the other part. 112 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 5: You know how many records. If a guy has the 113 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 5: all time record in threes is out on thirteen in 114 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 5: the game, and all of a sudden, if somebody has ten, 115 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 5: If Luca Dodgers had ten threes with four or five 116 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 5: minutes left, you absolutely believe they're gonna start feeding the ball. 117 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 5: They're gonna start chasing the ball. I don't care if 118 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 5: he's up twenty, They're gonna keep him in the game. 119 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 5: Like that happens all the time. If a guy's about 120 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 5: to break a reception record, even if that team is 121 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 5: up ten with one minute left, they're gonna throw in 122 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 5: the ball four or five times so he can break 123 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 5: the record. Like that happens all the time. The big 124 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 5: issue here, and we'll talk about it some more, is 125 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 5: who the record was held by, that made that, that 126 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 5: made this happen, that made people very upset. I didn't 127 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 5: even go for the record, and I. 128 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 4: Set up here and screened that No that he should 129 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 4: have gone for shouldn't have because his team won the Super. 130 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 5: Bowl and he could have been a Super Bowl winner 131 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 5: with an all time record rush wear for SA kwon Barkley, 132 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 5: since SA kwon Barkley absolutely should have went for it. 133 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 4: And I told you that. 134 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 6: You wrong. 135 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 5: I told you it wasn't gonna happen because they had 136 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 5: a big official I get that, and I'm okay with that. 137 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 5: And guess what that is the decision the Eagles made, 138 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 5: and that's perfectly the decision that he went for. 139 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 4: Said, Hey, you're on fire tonight, We're going for fire. 140 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 4: That's the back. 141 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 5: You can't have thirty one points in the four court 142 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 5: forty three and a half times sixty whatever, you're on 143 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 5: four throws, you're not on fire. As that came a 144 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 5: portune of that came at the end. You saw you 145 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 5: and I don't go. Let's see. Let's hear. 146 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: Here's a coach and his reaction, the guy who's been 147 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: in the NBA, his reaction to Sham eighty three points. 148 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,239 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw that, Bam and Abaio 149 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: had eighty three points tonight. 150 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 4: Just I'm sure you know, Bam, what are your thoughts 151 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 4: on that and such a historic night? 152 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean the first thing you think is how 153 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 7: you know, because of how not because of him, but 154 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 7: because of the way he plays, you know, and I 155 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 7: saw I only made sixtrees, but forty free throws or 156 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 7: something like that tells the story right there. 157 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 4: There you go in the Washington Wizards. There you go. 158 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: And he had enough to not only dump on his 159 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: sixth trees and all the free throws, he led a 160 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: little left over to dump on the Wizards. 161 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 4: Exactly what I said. 162 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 5: That's why this is Adam soders like and just like, 163 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 5: first of all, that's just crazy. And just like Giannis 164 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 5: who also said, don't nobody remember what it will shoot 165 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 5: in this hundred, I don't know what did Kobe shoot. 166 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 4: I don't know. I know Kobe had eighty one. 167 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 5: I know Will had a hundred, and now I know 168 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 5: Bam out about You know, people always now I remember. 169 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 4: That in a year ten years old, no, no at night, 170 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 4: when Bam had eighty three. People always remember flym flams. 171 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: And they'll always remember when they got robbed or when 172 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: someone cheated them out of the game of basketball, and 173 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: they'll go, yeah, you know what, Sham scored eighty three. 174 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: But it was fraudulent. It was a three dollar bill. 175 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: If I put my hand on it, I'd have to 176 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: wash it. That's what people remember. They remember the flim Flam. 177 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: They might not remember when Will what he did or 178 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: Kobe because they respected and they and it's revered. But 179 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: when you know somebody didn't do what they were supposed 180 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: to and didn't get a record on the up and up, 181 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: you remember that forever. 182 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 5: So isn't a record or that Bam eighty yu was 183 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 5: balled out records. 184 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 4: That's my point. You said a record. 185 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 5: So everybody's mad that he got the second place, that 186 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 5: he beat Kobe. 187 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 4: And that's the issue. 188 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 5: And I'm gonna go ham on this next hour because 189 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 5: that's the issue. It ain't the points, it's who he 190 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 5: passed and all the circumstances surrounded at more than anything. 191 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 5: Because if you absolutely substitute Kobe and you put in 192 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 5: Mike Redmander, Michael Rand, now the score was nice. That 193 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 5: has absolutely more to do a lot of people in 194 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 5: the NBA. I'm not saying there wouldn't be critsis and 195 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 5: it would not be at the vitrio. 196 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 4: It wasn't about Kobe. 197 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: It was that it was lame and a sham, and 198 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: that's why it has a new name. 199 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 4: He up there in the brunt of the current. 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I mean, this is the time 236 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 6: we got to be real. I know you want to 237 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 6: talk about Crosby. I mean, listen, I remember being with 238 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 6: the Packers. We sent a couple guys away on trades 239 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 6: and teams send them back. Now they'd say failed physical. 240 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 6: Sometimes I wonder if that was true. But you know, 241 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 6: you live in a world where you got to trust 242 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 6: each other, work together. It's a competitive league. But listen, 243 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 6: this is a massive investment for the Ravens. They were 244 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 6: going to make sure they talk to their doctors, they 245 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 6: talk to other doctors, and they decided that it wasn't 246 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 6: worth it for them. And this is what happens when 247 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 6: you get involved with trades before the legal free agency 248 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 6: gets going. This has happened before with renegging of player commitments. 249 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 6: They get homesick, they realize, they get cold feet on 250 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 6: a trade. It's a bigger scale because it involves more 251 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 6: than a player, involves two teams that have made plans. 252 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 6: But this stuff happens. It's it's not for the faint 253 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 6: of heart, these NFL transactions. 254 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: And Andrew, I'm straight up, people just like, automatically, without 255 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: being without seeing the medicals, we're just going to run 256 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: and go. 257 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 4: Oh, the Ravens got. 258 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 1: Cold feed and they didn't want to give up two 259 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: first round picks. It's nonsense to me because Max Crawlsby 260 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: is a game changer. But if you could add that 261 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: guy before this thing got canceled, people were praising the 262 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: Ravens for going out, making a commitment, trying to go 263 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: do something to try to win a championship while you 264 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: have Lamar Jackson. 265 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 4: If they really believe. 266 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: This guy could help them now over the next two years, Andrew, 267 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: why would you back out because ultimately you're just trying 268 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: to win, not five years from now, not hoping that 269 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: a player that you draft developed, but I have a 270 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: proven commodity who can help me today. 271 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 4: I want that guy on my team, don't you. 272 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, and listen, there are very few players in the history, 273 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 6: not only now, a history of the NFL that merit 274 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 6: the compensation of two number one draft picks. We've seen 275 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 6: it for persons. Gardener. I don't think he was worth it. 276 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 6: That Jets did a good deal there, but this one 277 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 6: is one of those. And the problem is I didn't 278 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 6: even know till after I read it last night. I 279 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 6: didn't even know he had surgery in January. It wasn't 280 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 6: just a cleanout like it was a real surgery. 281 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 5: Right. 282 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 6: That to me is like, let's just get our hands 283 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 6: on this guy and see what this really is. And 284 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 6: here's some people still don't understand this. There is no 285 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 6: universal NFL physical You know, one team's passing is another 286 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 6: team's sailing. Some teams have different views on them. It's 287 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 6: like when you go to the combine, you come out 288 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 6: of the combine. Some team's got a three medical grade 289 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 6: on someone, some's got a clean medical grade on someone. 290 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 6: It's all different. And the Ravens medical Steff is the 291 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 6: only medical steff that matters in this situation. Doesn't matter 292 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 6: if the Raiders pass them or another team passes them. 293 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 5: We had doctor chow on with us yesterday and he 294 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 5: helped me break that down to your point, just that 295 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 5: you know, everybody looks at things differently. 296 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 4: And he mentioned Robin. I were kind of like, oh, 297 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 4: I didn't realize. 298 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 5: He mentioned, Uh, he'd had eight surgeries, you know, and 299 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 5: so he's been through a lot, even though he plays 300 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 5: through them and pushes through and has been extraordinarily productive. 301 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 4: You know. 302 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 5: He was saying that could be a little pause for 303 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 5: calls for pause with that. Let me go to what 304 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 5: they the backup plan, if you will. They say they 305 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 5: were trying to get Trey Hndickson and and they said 306 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 5: have had enough money to do, but yeah, they were 307 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 5: trying to get both. So they were saying Henderson actually disappointed. 308 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 5: I think he was going to be playing opposite side 309 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 5: of Crosby. How big is that to be able to say, well, 310 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 5: we can't get him, but at least we got him. 311 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 6: Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I don't know if 312 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 6: I believe, you know, you're going to spend that heavily 313 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 6: at one position when you have other needs. But you know, 314 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 6: of course they're paying the quarterback top of the market 315 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 6: as well. But I think the thing to note about 316 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 6: this is that they get their picks back and they 317 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 6: and they sign a premier player at the same position, 318 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 6: maybe not as premiere as fits Crosby. So the Ravens 319 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 6: come out of this looking good. I get it. People 320 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 6: can ascribe the cold feed thing, can ascribe this. What 321 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 6: I do wonder and I don't know if we'll ever 322 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 6: get an answer on this. I think Da Costa was 323 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 6: kind of coy about this in his media today. At 324 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 6: some point last night did he call the Ravens, I'm 325 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 6: so the Raiders and say something to the effect of, 326 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 6: you know, we've got a little bit of damage good here, 327 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 6: but we'll go ahead with the trade, but not for 328 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 6: two ones. And I just wonder if there was a 329 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 6: renegotiation of the trade discussion, that maybe the Raiders said 330 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 6: no to right. 331 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: No, you said to first and that's it, and then 332 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: you said, well I'm returning them. 333 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 4: Then forget it. 334 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, because to me, there was a compromise, and I 335 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 6: don't know, I'm not going to speculate whether it's one 336 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 6: first or a second and a Slater first. But you know, 337 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 6: if if this is not the worst knee injury to 338 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 6: sideline them, I'm like, well, there's got to be a medium. 339 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 6: And listen. Now there's talk about other teams being interested, 340 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 6: but they're not offering two ones, no doubt. 341 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 4: Oh you know what's going That market is going like 342 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 4: a house off the market. Well, Andrew, Andrew helped me. 343 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 4: I just can't for the I just can't get it. 344 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 4: I know there are so few quarterbacks. 345 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, but Daniel Jones, they just keep paying this eighty 346 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: eight million dollars and he got off to start the 347 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: season really great, playing bad teams, and he started playing 348 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: good teams and he turned into. 349 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 4: Danny Penny's not Danny Dimes. 350 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: And probably you know, him being hurt saved him from 351 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: people seeing him, you know, flame out at the end 352 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: of the year and them not making the playoffs or 353 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: whatever with Daniel or Danny Jones in quarterback. But but 354 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: what am I missing about him? Because I just think 355 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: he's middle of the pack, nothing special, But everybody Giants 356 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: cashed him out the Viking, I mean, and now here 357 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: he's getting cashed out again with the Colts. 358 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,959 Speaker 6: You know, this is hard for people to understand, and 359 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 6: maybe they follow my business of Sports Hall of Fame. 360 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 6: It's like sometimes quality doesn't matter in terms of money. 361 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 6: And Kirk Cousins is a prime example of this, and 362 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 6: those Daniel Jones and what he's been able to do, 363 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 6: and the Colts created this. The Colt, as I just mentioned, 364 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 6: traded two ones for Sauce Gardner. The only way you're 365 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 6: gonna succeeded quarterback is if you have an existing veteran 366 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 6: that you believe in, or you have ammunition to get 367 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 6: a top quarterback in the draft. When they traded two 368 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 6: ones for Gardner, they lost their ammunition right so there 369 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 6: was no other option than Daniel Jones. He got the 370 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 6: leverage right then before the Achilles. 371 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 4: That's crazy. 372 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 6: And it didn't go away with the Achilles, because what 373 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 6: are they going to do. They're not going with Richardson, 374 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 6: They're not going to go sign another guy. So he 375 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 6: got the tag. 376 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 5: Now. 377 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 6: I don't know what they made them feel like, we 378 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 6: can't just let him play for thirty seven million dollars. 379 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 4: Absolutely crazy, We got too. They didn't want to. 380 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 6: Be They didn't want to be in the position a 381 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 6: year from now with him having a good year and 382 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 6: then paint them sixty seventy million a year. So he 383 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 6: has played it extremely well with the Giant and Nicoles. 384 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, some people just get like, we got a couple 385 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 5: real quick for us running a long time. We talked 386 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 5: about it, Malik Willis, What do you make what you're 387 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 5: talking about? What you're talking about? Willis is gonna go 388 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 5: there and be kind of talent void and all of 389 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 5: a sudden struggle do they they have a long rope 390 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 5: with him. 391 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 4: What do you expect to happen with the Dolphins? 392 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 6: Well, you know what Packer's bias. I'm high on this kid. 393 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 6: I saw him do stuff in Green Bay with Jordan 394 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 6: love Out that was really impressive. Now, he was a 395 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 6: bust in Tennessee. So coaching does matter. Those offensive coaches 396 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 6: aren't going to Miami with him, but the defensive coach 397 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 6: saw him every day in practice. It's the head coach 398 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 6: at Miami. 399 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 4: Now. 400 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 6: I don't think Malik Willis is going to be an 401 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 6: all pro, But I think Malik Willis is going to 402 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 6: be improvement from Touur. 403 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: I like him, okay, and the last thing he had 404 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: alliance of moving on. You know a lot of players 405 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: coming and going, a lot of changes there. I picked 406 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: Andrew before the season started last year that they would 407 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: not make the playoffs. Will crush me because they thought 408 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,120 Speaker 1: I was just hating on the Lions. 409 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 4: And now where are they going? 410 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: Because they look like they're going to uh home dinner, 411 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: maybe a show and not to the playoffs again. 412 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 6: Possibly they got to fix the d I haven't founded 413 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 6: the moves enough. You know, they moved on from Montgomery, 414 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 6: who was a real power back and they get replaced 415 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 6: him with the check who's a little lighter. So we'll 416 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 6: see where that goes. But they're just going to load 417 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 6: up Gibbs, who is the most dynamic player in the league. 418 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 6: So I hope he's ready. You know, that guy's going 419 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,719 Speaker 6: to get a lot of carries, uh and they're going 420 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 6: to use him till he's blue in the face. That 421 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 6: premier Gibbs. 422 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:38,719 Speaker 4: It's a big year for the Lions. 423 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: I think if this thing doesn't work out, and you 424 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: know that division now with the Packers, the Bears are better. 425 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: And then even the Vikings, who had an off year 426 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: and they only lost one lost, had one fewel winding 427 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: the Lions last year and they had a terrible year 428 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: to most people. 429 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, and kind and I know we had a Kyler 430 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 6: Murray is going to go there. 431 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 4: I heard that's what everybody's saying. 432 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, and uh, Kevin o'conn is about as good as 433 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 6: you can get with a quarterback. I don't know what 434 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 6: happened with McCarthy, but you got to give Kyler Murray 435 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 6: a chance to develop there. I think they could be good. 436 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 4: All right, Well, he we got it. Thank you man, Andrew, 437 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 4: appreciate you man. 438 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 6: All Right, guys, be well. 439 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 440 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 441 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 442 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 2: listen live. 443 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, so everybody is split on this as great accomplishment. 444 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 3: Today's eighty three points is going to be forever in 445 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 3: the record book, not on my telephone. There seems to 446 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 3: be a split about, you know, the legitimacy of it, 447 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 3: whether or not it was ethical basketball, the way he 448 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 3: got about it. Now, my question to you, I'll post 449 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 3: to Dub first. Are people that upset about it because 450 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 3: of how he got it or the fact that now 451 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 3: he has passed up the late great Kobe Bryant. 452 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 5: There you go, it's the ladders very easy for me. 453 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 5: Names matter. I tell you, I don't think Eli Manning 454 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 5: is a Hall of Famer. You know, people will say, 455 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 5: yes he is. Why he beat Brady. That's why his 456 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 5: last name's Manning. He's a Brady. And if this were 457 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 5: one two super bans, right, and if he beat Boomer Siason, 458 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 5: he wouldn't be a hall of famer super Bowl to 459 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 5: he beat Brady, nobody want to super Bowl MVPs. And 460 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 5: if he beat most ridiculous team wouldn't be a Hall 461 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 5: of Fame not clearly not. And that's why he ain't 462 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 5: any But what you just say, what you just say 463 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 5: I said, if he beat. 464 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: No, he ain't what you said, he ain't in yet, 465 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: because even you know I'm saying, you know we shall see, 466 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: you would have said he'll never get insane. 467 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 5: I want you to say, we know, will he ever 468 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 5: get in? I can't tell people will he ever get in? 469 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 5: I believe somebody and someone will write him in. He 470 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 5: might be seventy five years old. They'll write aim in. 471 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 4: Going like I was saying before I was really interrupted 472 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 4: this right. Names hatters every day seven games. 473 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 5: Names matter absolutely, And the fact that he beat Kobe 474 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 5: Bryant about Kobe that no, why, what do you mean 475 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 5: it's not That's exactly why. If this were the Rip 476 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 5: Hamilton eighty one point game or the David Robinson, who, 477 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 5: by the way, when he scored a seventy one saw 478 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 5: it as a teenager, they. 479 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 4: Fed on the ball, fed on the ball, fed on 480 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 4: the ball. 481 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 5: Because they wanted to get in a scoring title and 482 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 5: they wanted to try to have him have a shot 483 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 5: within an MVP, so they kept going at him, defeeding 484 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 5: the ball. And if this were David Robinson who had 485 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 5: the eighty one, people would be guessed. There'll be some 486 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 5: people who will be upset. I'm not, dude. This isn't 487 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 5: a blanket his statement. But I absolutely believe a lot 488 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 5: of the fervor that you're seeing is because of who 489 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 5: it was and how valued he is. And obviously the 490 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 5: untimely death of Kobe Bryant that only adds to it 491 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 5: as well. And what's interesting about it too is I 492 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 5: believe if Kobe were still with us, and whether he 493 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 5: was playing or not, or just a fan of the game, 494 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 5: and they asked him, I actually think Kobe would be 495 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 5: far less upset than so many other people. I think 496 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 5: Kobe would say, I know how hard it is to 497 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 5: score in this league. I know how difficult it is. Well, 498 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 5: it was forty three free throws. He had to make 499 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 5: thirty seven or whatever it was of those free throws. 500 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 5: I think Kobe would value you would appreciate and understand 501 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 5: how difficult it is to score in the league. And 502 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 5: Bam out of balue to get that. Also, Bam made 503 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 5: a point chaser. Bam is a person who plays great 504 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 5: d scores when he needs to. So I think again, 505 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 5: you have to value Wow, he just had a night 506 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 5: and I think a lot of people are upset about that. 507 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 5: And Bam is catching a lot of heat for where 508 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 5: the NBA is right now. People are upset about the 509 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 5: way the game's playing. They're come set about low management, 510 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 5: they're upset about guys not playing, They're u set about 511 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 5: saying they're not playing hard enough, they're set about the 512 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 5: All Star Game. And Bam happened to be caught in 513 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 5: the middle of all this. And I think he's getting 514 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 5: a bad rep now. If you want to say, oh, 515 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 5: they followed at the end a few times so to 516 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 5: get him the ball back, I won't even argue with check. 517 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 5: We were watching a live I was like, oh, that's 518 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 5: kind of crazy. But at the end of the day, 519 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 5: he still had to score eighty three points. That was 520 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 5: a remarkable feat. It was fun and that's it. It 521 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 5: doesn't mean he's better than Kobe, doesn't mean his legacy 522 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 5: is anything like that. Kobe Bryant had a chance to 523 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 5: score some more points. I remember he scored sixty something 524 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 5: points against Dallas Maverickson three quarters sixty two thank you, 525 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 5: Rob g sixty two points in twe recorders. Phil Jackson 526 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 5: pulled them out. That was their prerogative because for them, 527 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 5: we're going for championships. This is what we do with 528 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 5: the Lakers. I'm Kobe, I'm Phil. We win championships for 529 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 5: bam out to buy you in the heat. This ain't 530 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 5: that they had a chance to go for it. They 531 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 5: went for it, had some fun. And I strongly believe 532 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 5: if this was the Rip Hamilton eighty one point game 533 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 5: that he passed or the Jamal Murray eighty one point 534 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 5: it wouldn't be much less issue. But because it was Kobe, 535 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 5: because Kobe had an untimely death as well, I think 536 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 5: that only adds to it. 537 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 4: Totally disagree, and I get it, you're a Kobe fan. 538 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 4: So people, I'm a Kobe fan. Yeah, yeah, you. 539 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 5: Are people who go wait, wait, break hit me with 540 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 5: the breaking news people, what people life freaking I have 541 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 5: life heard I'm a Kobe fan. You literally been called 542 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 5: a Kobe hater. You sit here every day. 543 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 4: That Dietron You have to be some sort of That was. 544 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 5: The worst thing you ever said. The difference between me 545 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,479 Speaker 5: was terrible. Is that was terrible? How many NBA players 546 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 5: text you this morning? How many NBA players text you 547 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 5: this morning about what happened last night? 548 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 4: No, just hit me out. I am gonna ask your question. None. 549 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: Okay, So what did that have to do? Because I'm 550 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: trying to make a point to you. 551 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 4: Was saying I'm a Kobe fan. I was a fan 552 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 4: of him, but I never. 553 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: Told I got text by a number of guys who 554 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: played in the NBA, and not once was Kobe mentioned. 555 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: What they didn't like is that they thought it was flimsy, lame. 556 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 4: That was the biggest. 557 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: Pushback that I heard from people, not that Oh my god, 558 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: this is the end of the world because he passed Kobe. 559 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: Rob g I asked you to look up Kobe's Wikipedia. 560 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: It is opening big graft that told you about Kobe 561 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: Bryant's life. How many times did they mention that he 562 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: scored eighty one points in the game zero? And his 563 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: accolades of what he did in his career, how many 564 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: times do they mention that he. 565 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 4: Scored eighty one points zero? Okay? And that is you 566 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 4: don't think that is brought up? My point. 567 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's not brought up, but that's not 568 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: why people are pushing back and the basketball fans and people. 569 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: I'm just talking about the people that I know in 570 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: the league, Okay, who were like this. It wasn't like 571 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: it's disgraceful because this guy who averages nineteen or twenty 572 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: points past Kobe. It was he's not that guy forty 573 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: three free throws, the team was up twenty five, fouling 574 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: the opponent. It was about the optics of how lame 575 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 1: this was to get a guy who isn't on that 576 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: level this opportunity to act like something major happen here. 577 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 4: I get it. He scored eighty three points and people 578 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 4: will talk about it. Excuse me. 579 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: People will talk about it, but I don't think it 580 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: had the majority of people. There are Kobe fans, and 581 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 1: I get those people. Yes, if you were a Kobe 582 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: fan just because and then you saw a lot of 583 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: people talk about he broke Kobe's record. No, he did not. 584 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: Kobe didn't have a record. That's why it's not in 585 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: his Wikipedia. 586 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 4: That's what that their brain is. Kobe's right. 587 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: No, there's they're just Kobe fans. And I get it 588 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: because they don't know who will Chamberlain is. They're too young, 589 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 1: so they don't know who will Chamberlain. And that was 590 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: my point when sending my tweet out that they didn't 591 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: break any record. They didn't see any history. Wilt Chamberlain 592 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: owns the record of one hundred points. That was my point. 593 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: But anyway, I don't believe. Do I believe there's some 594 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: Kobe fans who are upset got their panties in a 595 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: bunch because Bam Sham passed Kobe. Yes, I do. But 596 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: the majority is how this thing went down, how flimsy, 597 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: phony three dollar bill of shit felt that it didn't 598 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: feel real if he got this in some sort of game. 599 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 4: And this is the last part. 600 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: Yes, you gotta make the shots, you gotta make the 601 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: free throws. 602 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 4: I get all of that. 603 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: Fouling a team when you're up by twenty five so 604 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: that he can get the opportunity is what he probably 605 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: shouldn't even been in the game at that point, you know, 606 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: like like seriously. 607 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 4: I agree. 608 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 5: I said, listen, we were sitting here. What was happened 609 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 5: to live? The last bit of our show was the quarter, 610 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 5: and I said. 611 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: Like, I don't know if you're even watched it, yamen, 612 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: several TV the game was on, we will watch. 613 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 5: I was watching the game when he was scoring buckets 614 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 5: in the first quarter, quietly, just doing our show, and 615 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 5: I was like, and he's in some shots. We were 616 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 5: shocked when Steve the Seger said and by the way, 617 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 5: after the first quarter, bam out of Bayu has thirty one, 618 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 5: I'm like, wait, whoa. I thought he had fifteen, you know, 619 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 5: having a good quarter. Because I'm obviously listening to you 620 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 5: when I'm doing our show. My point is I totally 621 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 5: get it. I think sixty eight of the eighty three 622 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 5: maybe seventy points where if you want to call it 623 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 5: legitimate in that he was just in the flow. He 624 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 5: was obviously he's forcing towards the end, but he is 625 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 5: flowing the game. 626 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 4: Then it got weird. I admit, you watched it got 627 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 4: a little Flukey got a little weird. 628 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 5: But to me again, I think we just will naturally 629 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 5: a month, a year, two years, five years, ten years 630 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 5: just be like, oh Bam had eighty three. And I 631 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 5: got to think we'll just be remembering it as that, 632 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 5: just like what Luca had what seventy two or whatever, 633 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 5: seventy three couple of seasons ago, Like it was just 634 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 5: Luca has seventy three. I don't know his stats. I 635 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 5: don't know the threes, I don't know the amount of 636 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 5: minutes and all that. I just know Luca had one night. 637 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 5: I'm watching TV and I'm like, wait a minute, Luca's 638 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 5: going crazy right now, and I remember whoa wait a minute, 639 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 5: Devin Booker's going crazy with his seventy one piece. 640 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 4: And it just happens. 641 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 5: And I think people are taking it incredibly personally when 642 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 5: it just happens, where guys have a night, and whatever 643 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 5: the sport may be, there's guys who all of a 644 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,239 Speaker 5: sudden get four or five home runs who never they 645 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 5: might even never played the next season in baseball, but 646 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 5: they had a night. And bad moute of Bayu, who's 647 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 5: a heck of a player, but he's not going to 648 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 5: have a night. 649 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 4: He did. 650 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: That's the thing is, that's what people are having an issue. 651 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: Forty three fleet through attempts is not having a night. 652 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: That's what if he would have. And that's why even 653 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: Thodua Odoka said the same thing. He looked at the 654 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: threes right away. Maybe he went on a binge and 655 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: he had fourteen or fifteen threes. Then you look at 656 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: it and go, my god, he was feeling it and 657 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: he had a hot night, and he put up the point. 658 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 4: So now you get it right. 659 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 5: I'm saying a free throw attempted, someone could be mad 660 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 5: if somebody took so watch this. 661 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 4: LaMelo Ball, I. 662 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 5: Told we had a conversation off like a buddy of mine, 663 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 5: and we were saying, like who could be the next 664 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 5: I said LaMelo Ball, because LaMelo Ball is the type 665 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 5: of person who literally could take thirty five threes in 666 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 5: the game, and that's just not crazy for him. He's 667 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 5: comes from an era shooting Chinohels one hundred points and 668 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 5: all of that. My point is, if LaMelo Ball did 669 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 5: this in three years and he shot thirty or forty threes, 670 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 5: then we're going to complain about that. 671 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 4: We're gonna say, well, he did it in forty three. 672 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 5: You know, he shot forty and he made twenty eight 673 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 5: of them or something whatever, it would be like, we're 674 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 5: going to do this. 675 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 4: Threes. I don't think people, but I think I hear you. 676 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 4: I disagree. 677 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 5: I think people will say, well, anybody could get that 678 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 5: if I jacked up forty threes. Yeah, if I shot 679 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 5: forty threes, I could get that. 680 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: Free throws or not, like making three, we're gonna do that. 681 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: I'm a free throw that. That's like making an NBA 682 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: player making free throws. 683 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 5: Seriously, I mean, had he had if you filed Shock 684 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 5: or Dwight or a bunch of have to be able 685 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 5: those buy three times, making those guys seven of them