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Speaker 3: Doing? Will be luck? It's time to bank? Oh yeah right,

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Speaker 3: it's Friday morning. Get fired up. I am not being

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Speaker 3: held hostage. There's no lotion or baskets, and this is

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Speaker 3: morning combat. Welcome on in Friday, May thirtieth, two thousand

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Speaker 3: Jervonte in that fight right against roaches. That's what I'm

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Speaker 3: Luke Thomas of Washington, DC.

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Speaker 1: That is a real charge. I feel better now though.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to be here BC.

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Speaker 3: How's Vegas interesting so far?

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: and others. You know, look, one bad flight can f

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Speaker 3: You know those times when your first flight's late, then

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Speaker 1: Part of my life, brother, part of doing business, you understand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing business. Yeah, disgusting. All right, Hey,

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Speaker 3: we'll speak broadly about it. You better believe it. It's

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Speaker 3: We said we weren't going to talk about John Jones again.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, you always clowned me for my ability

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Speaker 3: Your poison?

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Speaker 3: That's neither here nor there? But you can like our show,

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Speaker 3: There we go, Luke. People are usually interested. How are you?

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Speaker 3: Good stuff, good stuff. Love what they're doing over there

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Speaker 3: Morning Combat at gmail dot com and at the end

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Speaker 6: I can't even make money with these guys on my

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Speaker 6: YouTube channel. I'm not only audited, I am publicly audited.

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Speaker 3: that's right. Secondly, Luke, I'm gonna say something that I

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Speaker 3: You don't care anymore.

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Speaker 1: I don't care, UFC.

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Speaker 3: We don't care anymore. You are continuing continuing this path

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Speaker 3: Moving on, okay, Serge Pavlich, notwithstanding what a he that's

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Speaker 3: to subtopic Luke zero number two. During the same week,

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Speaker 3: We're going to say that he's got a podcast about

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it should also be noted I believe this

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Speaker 1: Buckle up. I suspect it's going to take a long

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Speaker 1: time for this one to get something out of it

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Speaker 3: But you don't think this speeds up some t k

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Speaker 1: Ummm, that's a great question. I don't think so, but

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Speaker 3: And does me making Eric McCracken Phil McCracken references instantly

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Speaker 1: No, but it does bring me back to h. Kingpin, Yes, Kingpin,

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Speaker 3: I mean if you were low on rent, Luke, you

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Speaker 1: Hey, can you get sick, drink and piss, even if

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Speaker 1: it's your own. That's a great line.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Look, regardless of where seriously, regardless of where

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Speaker 1: I certainly think it's interesting that this law firm is

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Speaker 1: They got some coin for that existing class of fighters.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out For a layman like me,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody believes that. Nobody believes that, nor does anyone

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Speaker 1: What'd be awesome to see Kevin Lee back on top.

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Speaker 3: Final point on Kevin Lee. If he didn't have staff

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Speaker 3: I mean, you've got to think about this that night, Luke,

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm definitely not thinking about it.

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Speaker 3: Then that's well, you're up all night angry, like you

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Speaker 3: that four energy drink? Yeah, the other day, how ill

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Speaker 1: This is the uh, this is the strawberry blast U

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Speaker 3: Look, you ever go to one of those wakes where

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Speaker 1: Enough for this year tickets, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Finally on the zero topic stuff, Luke, are you moved

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Speaker 1: have pyotr Yan fight Marcus McGee, and people were all

433
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Speaker 1: up in arms about it. And I'm like, cause he's ranked.

434
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 3: Like number two and ready for a title shot and

435
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,680
Speaker 3: now he's facing a twelve thirty.

436
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Speaker 1: So then let me ask the question, then, BC, why

437
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 1: do you think he took that.

438
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 3: Fight to stay busy and look great and be in

439
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 3: the spot.

440
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 1: To get right right? Like again, if you see a

441
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 1: fight like that, it's not because the matchmakers didn't real

442
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 1: and all likelihood didn't realize that like, oh, him versus

443
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,239
Speaker 1: Umar would be a much better fight, but I think

444
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 1: Lamar still injured. And then more to that point, like

445
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 1: more broadly, like if he wants to stay busy and

446
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 1: they're trying to find a name who's available, maybe the

447
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 1: other one said no, like this is just what was

448
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 1: available given the circumstances. And also Marcus mcin is like

449
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,680
Speaker 1: a decent, like good fighter, you know, and that's not

450
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 1: it's not the craziest thing in the world. So yeah,

451
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,880
Speaker 1: is it like ideal? No, it's not ideal, but they're

452
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Speaker 1: not working under ideal conditions.

453
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 3: Never forget that Sean Strickland went from an a bus

454
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 3: Magameta off knockout to a title shot and he won

455
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 3: the title. So you know, you can make that leap

456
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:36,360
Speaker 3: in this.

457
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,119
Speaker 1: Game a bus maga madoff.

458
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 3: That's right, yeah, planes, trains, automobiles and a bus. Luke,

459
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 3: where's your hand between two pillows? Those aren't pillows? All right,

460
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 3: let's get into topic number one, the real topic number one.

461
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Speaker 4: Get fired up?

462
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:55,119
Speaker 3: Why because this Saturday here by the way in Las Vegas,

463
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 3: where I currently sit, UFC Fight Night is back at

464
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 3: the damn Apex. And say what you will about this card,

465
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 3: about its depth, about women's MMA in general. I'm fired

466
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 3: the hell up in the deepest division of women's MMA

467
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 3: at the moment, women's flyweight under the UFC banner. How

468
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 3: about Aaron Blanchfield versus Macy Barber in a red hot,

469
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 3: potential number one contender ish type fight. Also, it's getting

470
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 3: a little bit spicy up in here up in here,

471
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 3: so Luke, before we get into some of that spice,

472
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 3: let's just set the terms right off the top. I

473
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 3: love this fight, but love it or hate it, is

474
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Speaker 3: a title shot on the line in your eyes for

475
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 3: these two aggressive females at one hundred and twenty five pounds.

476
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Speaker 1: I think it could be. I think it's which is

477
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,640
Speaker 1: weird to say, because they're fighting in the Apex. They're

478
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 1: not even fighting necessarily like on the road, and you know,

479
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 1: and close this thing up, they're not even fighting on

480
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: the road, where like, you know, it's like a we

481
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: kind of like internalized there's like the tears, right the

482
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: Apex fight nights and then on the road fight nights,

483
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Speaker 1: and then pay per view being the highest level. We've

484
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: kind of internalized that, you know, fairly or otherwise. But

485
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 1: this is a weird one for me. It's like, I

486
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: I Natalia Silva is still kind of hanging out there,

487
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 1: and for that reason she might actually get it right.

488
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 1: So she is currently the number one rank contender. I

489
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 1: think fans are pretty excited about her. For the most part.

490
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: She has made an interesting return to MMA after a

491
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: brief hiatus, you know, the tragic passing of her sister.

492
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 1: Blanchield and Barbara are sitting respectively at four and three,

493
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 1: but two, four and five excuse me, but two and

494
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 1: three are Monalfia Road who just had it, and then

495
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: Alexa Grosso, who you know, is at this point not

496
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: really relevant for a title picture in any kind of way.

497
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: So like, I think a strong performance here very well

498
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 1: could end up leap frogging Natalia Silva, especially remember like

499
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: USC three sixteen. I've said this before. You've got you

500
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 1: got Morob who is winning against Sean O'Malley, and people

501
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: are like, why wasn't that yan Yan would have been

502
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: the more deserving fighter, which is certainly a true argument.

503
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: But as we've talked about before, if you're selling pay

504
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 1: per views to a pay per view buying North American audience,

505
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: you know, having an American on there, or at least

506
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: someone you know, Yes, having an American on there is

507
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 1: not always going to be some kind of difference maker,

508
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 1: but in general it certainly could. And Silva speaks English,

509
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: which is great. I'm just saying there are ways in

510
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: which the winner on Saturday could get a boost into

511
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: a title shot. It really depends on a few factors.

512
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 3: I don't think Silva speaks Englist, does she?

513
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: I think she does? Yeah?

514
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 3: Camera really, yeah.

515
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: She's done.

516
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's starting to make that movie. You're right, all right, Luke.

517
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 3: This matchup is fantastic because of I think the timing

518
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 3: of them meeting each other. Yes, Aaron Blanchefield's original meteoric

519
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 3: Unbeaten rise was snuffed out to a large degree by

520
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 3: Menal Furrow and their Number One Contender fight over five

521
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 3: rounds when when plan A didn't work for Blanche Field

522
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 3: with the takedowns, we got to see the difference between

523
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 3: the two of those. She did how he bounced back

524
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 3: with a hard fought win against former two time champion

525
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 3: at one fifteen Rosanama Unis. But on the flip side,

526
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 3: Macy Barber still read hot overall when you consider she's

527
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 3: riding a six fight win streak despite some ups and

528
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 3: downs with injuries and time off. Yet when you look

529
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 3: at the odds at the moment, I got to ask

530
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 3: you if you're surprised about this. Our friends at DraftKings

531
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 3: have Aaron Blantsfield as a minus two thirty eight betting

532
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 3: favorite against the plus one ninety five Macy Barber, who

533
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 3: I think you would have to agree Luke has much

534
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 3: better striking in this matchup. What's with this? Uh, with

535
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 3: the odds going this way? In your eyes?

536
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: Boy, that is interesting. I'm just seeing these for the

537
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: first time, and uh, you know, I'm looking at some

538
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: of the other places that where you can get odds

539
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: are all pretty similar in that regard in terms of

540
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: the spread. Well, you know what, Let's let's before I

541
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: answered that, let's ask Long Island Luke, our resident betting

542
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: the contributor. I can serious, Why is the line like that?

543
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 5: I think it's just Erin's resume, Like she's coming off

544
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 5: the Firo lost, sure, but like Firo's coming off a

545
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 5: title shot and she's coming off the Rose win. Like

546
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 5: both of those names are bigger than anyone Macy's beaten.

547
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 5: I don't know Macy's resume in front of me, but

548
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 5: that six fight win streak, if I'm not mistaken, it's

549
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 5: not against big names.

550
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: I think is the biggest name.

551
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 3: Miranda Maverick by split decision decision over Dala Rosa, Jessicai

552
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 3: by decision split decision over KGB Lee. Then she stopped

553
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 3: Amanda Hebass, and then she won a three round decision

554
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 3: over former title challenger Caitlyn Sermonara. That's not bad, right,

555
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 3: It's not bad.

556
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,239
Speaker 5: But I feel like he Boss and Sermonar are the

557
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 5: only ones worth really putting any value in.

558
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: Those other names are kind.

559
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 3: Of heydicksing Rose coming up.

560
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 7: Bro.

561
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, but she also is like she's wishy, washy, you know,

562
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 5: she ain't reliable.

563
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: I'll say this first of all, I mean, this fight

564
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: is getting killed online, but I don't really agree I

565
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: kind of like this a lot. You know, whether the

566
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: card is great, it's a different kind of conversation, but

567
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: the main event certainly has a ton of value in it,

568
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: not just because their stakes involved. But I can sort

569
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 1: of understand that, I mean, Blanchefield is a little bit well,

570
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true. I was gonna say

571
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: maybe Blanchefield is a little bit more of a bulldozer,

572
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't A little bit more of

573
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: a bulldozer with her wrestling, I guess is the way

574
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: I would put that BC.

575
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 3: Uh more violent?

576
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's gonna I was gonna say that like

577
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: on the feet though, and particularly in the clinch and

578
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: stuff like that as well. And Barber's got like heavy

579
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: ground in pound two. Yeah, I don't know. I'll tell

580
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: you what. I find that that that's a little strange

581
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: for me that they're that far apart on this, And

582
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: in fact, what's kind of interesting is like they're really

583
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: similar in certain ways on their stats, with one really

584
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: big exception BC. First of all, they're they're a one

585
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 1: inch apart in height and one inch apart in reach,

586
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: so like they're very similar. Blanchefield has fifteen fights Barbara

587
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: has sixteen fights. Like, you know, they're kind of close

588
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: in that regard. They're born one year apart. Listen to

589
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: this strikes landing per minute five point two for Blanchfield,

590
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: four points for Barber, both pretty high. They're the Blanchfield

591
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 1: a little bit more hittable. Barber's got better defense, Blanchefield

592
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: absorbing four point two strikes per minute, which is very high,

593
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: and then two point nine for Barber, So she's much

594
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: cleaner as a striker in that regard. The one difference

595
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: on the grappling side, they'll be see Blanchefield's takedown defense

596
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: eighty percent very high and Macy Barber's take down defense

597
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: just fifty percent, so it's a little bit more vulnerable

598
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: in that regard. But even then, takedowns per fifteen minutes

599
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: one point eight six for Blanchfield, one point four or

600
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: four for Barber. Like they're in a lot of ways.

601
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: There are some meaningful differences, particularly in once you get

602
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: to the ground versus once you're still on the feet,

603
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of similarities combining them. I just

604
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: feel like Barber a little bit more trickery to her game, right, Yeah,

605
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: a little bit more bite down on the mouthpiece in exchanges.

606
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 3: Kind of fighter, Well, well, Aaron will take punishment, she's

607
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 3: a warrior, but she doesn't have the same I don't

608
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 3: think head movement in boxing.

609
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I would say Barbara a little bit

610
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: more of a slick stir, a little bit more of

611
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: a trickster in a good way. Obviously, Blanchefield very tough,

612
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: very straightforward, but a little bit more meat and potatoes

613
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: in that regard.

614
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 3: Well, those meat and potatoes had a lot of spice

615
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 3: sprinkled on top of them when these two started talking.

616
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 3: In fact, we got to bring in our friends from

617
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:29,479
Speaker 3: Quervo because it's time for some shots fired. Let's hear

618
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 3: from Macy Barber, who is saying what some people believe

619
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 3: that Aaron Blanchfield's tough, but what about plan B. Let's

620
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 3: hear from Macy.

621
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 7: I think Aarin's a one dimensional fighter, and I think

622
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 7: I've made that pretty known. She has her grappling and

623
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 7: she has a wrestling ability, but really, honestly, aside from that,

624
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 7: I don't think she's a great striker. She's not a finisher,

625
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 7: and she's not a dangerous fighter. She has some submission wins,

626
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 7: but what makes me dangerous compared to her. Is I

627
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 7: go out there to hurt you, and I go out

628
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 7: there to make you bleed, And I think that that's

629
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 7: what's going to be in my advantage. And I don't

630
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 7: care where the fight goes, whether it's on the standing,

631
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 7: on the ground. I'm going to finish Aaron Blairchfield. I

632
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 7: don't just want to go out there and fight these

633
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 7: girls and win. I don't want just a decision win.

634
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 7: I want to go out there and hurt these girls

635
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 7: and make sure that they know that when they get

636
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 7: done with a fight with me, they never want to

637
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 7: fight me again. I believe that I should be next

638
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 7: in line for the belt with a dominant performance, the

639
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 7: dominant finish and you know, putting my name out there

640
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 7: and doing what I need to do.

641
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 3: Look tow much you putting stock in what you're saying.

642
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: I love the attitude. I love the attitude. Is Blanchefield

643
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: one dimensional? No, no, no, I don't think. I don't

644
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: think that's quite right. I don't know. I mean this

645
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: is to me like a really interesting fight because Barber

646
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: came off the Contender series and we were hoping, like

647
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: you know, she was talking about I'm going to be

648
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: the youngest champion in UFC history, and I think, you know,

649
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: that's I don't think that's still on the table. Maybe

650
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: it is, like I can't even keep track anymore, but.

651
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: It's not on the table.

652
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Speaker 1: Line Yeah, okay, but you know, she could still obviously

653
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: do very very impressive things and then Blameanfield is here, who,

654
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: as you know, as we saw, was making some names

655
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: on the prelim cards and whatnot, and then moving through

656
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: and we've kind of seen Blanchefield hit a wall obviously

657
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: in the Fierrou fight, but that's a wall is very

658
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: difficult to get around. Barbara represents a very different kind

659
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: of threat, not the kind of keep away threat. But

660
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: I guess the point I'm trying to make is, you know,

661
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm genuinely unsure of who's got the higher upside here.

662
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: I really I have a hard time knowing, which is

663
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: part of the reason why I like this fight is

664
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: because they both got pretty credible claims to you know,

665
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: who's got next, But it's very it's very difficult to assess.

666
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: I mean again, the oddsmakers kind of think that this

667
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: is Blanchfield's fight to lose. Perhaps that it is, but

668
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think Barbara has. There was a

669
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: while there where Barbara was a little bit stalled, like

670
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: right around that the Roxanne Mota Ferry fight and she

671
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: had that injury and then came back and then since then,

672
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: you know, I've seen real huge amounts of progress. She's

673
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: a deadly good fighter. I'm very curious to see this fight.

674
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678
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679
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 3: There was a rebuttal of sorts and they're back and

680
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 3: forth on media day from Aaron Blanchefield. Let's check in

681
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Speaker 3: on this.

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Speaker 8: Do you feel like a win here gives you the

683
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 8: shot at the title?

684
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 3: I do.

685
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 9: I think with a really good performance. I think at

686
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 9: this point it matters. It's winning, but also how you win,

687
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 9: So plan on winning in an impressive passion.

688
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 8: So Macy came in here earlier and she sees you

689
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 8: as one dimensional and she's looking to finish you as

690
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 8: you said, she's an aggressive fighter. When you hear things

691
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 8: like that, and of course, you know all throughout your

692
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 8: career you're gonna hear people be critique, critical, and things

693
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 8: like that. For you, do you just kind of brush

694
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 8: that off and just zone that out or do you

695
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 8: feel like you put that to the fire and add.

696
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 9: That to motivation Most of how I feel like I

697
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 9: just brush it off. I mean, people, you know, they

698
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 9: got to say what they got to say. But I

699
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 9: know who I am as a fighter, and I know

700
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 9: I'm all rounded. Yeah, I think in order to get

701
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 9: a title shot next, I'm definitely gonna need a finish.

702
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 9: You know, wins are always good and that's always the goal,

703
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 9: but a finish should be good in this one.

704
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 3: Look, this is kind of a weird or tough question.

705
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 3: Do you think this fight can reignite women's MMA in

706
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: any form, whether they put on a war over twenty

707
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: five minutes or whether one gets a dominant performance and

708
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 3: begins to shout out for a title shot. Can this

709
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 3: be the beginning of a turn in a bright direction

710
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 3: for women's MMA At the moment, I.

711
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Speaker 1: Think it's going to take a lot more about women's

712
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: MMA to be resolved and one fight simply cannot fix that.

713
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: And it's going to be true even at a higher level,

714
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: like if Kayla wins at UFC three sixteen and they

715
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: bring Amanda Nunez back and you have that that fight

716
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: would be great. B See, we both have been very

717
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: clear that's the fight that we want. I think it'd

718
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: be amazing. But at the same time, by itself, you know,

719
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: it can't save anything. It can you know, it can

720
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: save an event, but it can't save much more than that,

721
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: and so just keeping that in mind I think is

722
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: really important. However, what I would say is, you know,

723
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: any amount of creating hype for again a title shot

724
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: or whatever this fight ends up being. Any any putting

725
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: on a good fight is obviously important. But then you know,

726
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,959
Speaker 1: the women's game does need rivalry, it needs something to

727
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: inject some life into it, and I don't know how

728
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: much the apex is going to facilitate that tomorrow night,

729
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: but any any amount, I think is a positive contributor.

730
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: And again, if you can create hype four a showdown

731
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: in the main event or excuse me for a showdown

732
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: at it for a title shot, this is exactly what

733
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Speaker 1: the doctor ordered. I really really hope we can get

734
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Speaker 1: close to something like that.

735
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Speaker 3: You know, all things considered, I'm taking plus money on

736
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 3: Macy Barber here. I think if it comes down to

737
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 3: it on the feet, which it will over the twenty

738
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 3: five rounds, Look, Blanchield's toughest. Heck, she doesn't stop coming

739
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 3: forward even if she's taking damage. I get the advantages

740
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: on the ground that she could potentially have here. But

741
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 3: I like Macy Barber, and look if we're if we're

742
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 3: looking at their two runs or cases for a title

743
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 3: shot with a win up to this point, I think

744
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 3: with Barber being a potential fresh opponent to the title picture,

745
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 3: if she beats Blanchfield in this close up opportunity extends

746
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 3: her win streak to seven, I think she could potentially

747
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 3: crash that title picture. But I think on the flip side,

748
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 3: I heard what Aaron said right there that a win

749
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 3: could give her that I think she's gonna have a

750
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 3: harder road because we saw her handled not so long

751
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 3: ago by menon Faro. And I think if you consider

752
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 3: the fact that Natalia Silva seems to be due, Jungwai

753
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 3: Lee could potentially crash this division and get an instant

754
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 3: title shot against Valentina because of the star power. If

755
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 3: they go in that direction, I'm wondering with a win here,

756
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 3: if Aaron is probably gonna have to go get a

757
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 3: win over Manon to get that title shot. What do

758
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 3: you think about that?

759
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: M Why would they do that? Like you, you need

760
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: as many viable contenders in this When you've got a

761
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: long reigning champion like this, you're gonna just feed him back.

762
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: I think I Fierro is gonna fight someone elseide the

763
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: top five?

764
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 3: Well what if what if Blanchefield won, they did Jung

765
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 3: Way Lee next, and then you know Natalia Silva was

766
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 3: waiting in the bullpen. You're looking at a year right there.

767
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 1: That's true.

768
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 3: Lancefield's going to have to beat another top contender in

769
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 3: my opinion, and since it would be weird to push

770
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 3: her into a title shot when she just got handled

771
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 3: by Meno, I'm just saying, Luke, I think she might

772
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 3: have to end up beating her to get it.

773
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: That is yeah, I mean the the Jeong Way Lee

774
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: sweepstakes are the game changer here because that would then

775
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: change a lot about how this division functions and who

776
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: gets next. But if Jong Wi Lee ends up fighting,

777
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: then you might have the winner of this fight fight

778
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: the fight Natalia Silva, and then that winner gets you know,

779
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 1: the title shot at that point. So or if Jong

780
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: Wi Lee wins and it's controversial, they could do her.

781
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of ways that could just

782
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: completely upend everything. But to your point, this is the

783
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: point I'm trying to make. There is a likelihood that

784
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: if the winner here squeaks by or you know, just

785
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: gets a good But otherwise, you know, you didn't win

786
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: in any electoral landslide. You don't have a mandate. You

787
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: just have to go back out there. And there's a

788
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: good chance there's gonna be two fights in front of

789
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: them on Saturday and then another one after that. So

790
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: we really have to see.

791
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 3: At least we have depth in at least one women's

792
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 3: division at the moment before Luke Thomas's prediction, let's get

793
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 3: one more from Long Island Luke Nocito of the main

794
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 3: card minute, Luke, I'm going plus money on Macy Barber. Here.

795
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 3: Break this matchup down from a betting standpoint, in terms

796
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 3: of where you're.

797
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 5: Leaning betting standpoint, I took the over two and a

798
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 5: half in a parlay.

799
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: I think it's safe.

800
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 5: I think this one probably goes five rounds, so two

801
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 5: and a half definitely feels good. Barber at plus money

802
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 5: is super tempting. I was considering taking it. I might

803
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 5: still take it, but I didn't officially my prediction though,

804
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 5: I'm going to Erran by decision.

805
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 3: I feel like you just picked both sides. Did you

806
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 3: just hedge your garden right there? What's you said?

807
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just saying.

808
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, if you want Macy at plus money,

809
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 5: there's value there. But if you're asking me how I

810
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 5: think the fight plays out, I think Eron wins by decision.

811
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 3: I think that's your tri state bias talking right there,

812
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 3: Luke Thomas, who wins? And why.

813
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lean Blanchefield because I think that that three

814
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: percent takedown defence from Barber and Blansfield's willingness to take

815
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: punishment to get there is probably going to be the

816
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 1: difference maker. But I don't know. I don't think Barber's

817
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: anyone to sleep on. I really don't. I'm kind of

818
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: excited about this main event.

819
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 3: All right, let's find out if you are excited about

820
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 3: the co main event in the lightweight division. As number seven,

821
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 3: Matteush Gamro welcomes a very tough customer and lude Volt Klein. Luke,

822
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 3: is Gamrod in your eyes, being disrespected by taking this

823
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 3: fight against an unranked fighter, or is this the opportunity

824
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 3: for Klein to get some respect with a big win

825
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: against an established name.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think it's a couple of things

827
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: happening at once. The loss to Hooker was bad for

828
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: Gamrot because I think he was widely expected to win.

829
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: That guy like Dan Hooker not really known for his

830
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: takedown defense, good fighter obviously, but not known for his

831
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 1: wrestling per se. And Gamrock's especially known for that. Remember

832
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: he had like a tooth and nail fight with arminsar

833
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: Ukin had amazing wrestling scrambles, So so that was a

834
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 1: real setback. I think the other part, though, is like, dude,

835
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: people just don't want to fight Gamrot. I mean, if

836
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: you're in the top five and top ten, he's not

837
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: a great fight because he's really tough to beat, and

838
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: even if you beat him, it's probably not going to

839
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: be very exciting. And it means a lot like if

840
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: you beat a guy that good, it obviously tells us

841
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 1: you are very good, but it's it's just a really

842
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: hard I mean, you know, credit to Dan Hooker for

843
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: doing it, but it's not a lot of people are

844
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: going to sign up for that assignment, you know. I

845
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: get it. However, as I mentioned, he's coming off the

846
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: lost Hooker, I think he needed a rebound. Kline has

847
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: been slowly but steadily climbing the ladder, and I think

848
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: has earned an opportunity. So for him, it actually makes

849
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: a lot of sense PC, because what better way to

850
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: prove you belong among the upper tier of lightweights than

851
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: by beating Mateyoush Gamrot. It actually would be exactly what

852
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: he needs. He's not so much worried about building a name.

853
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: He just wants to prove about what company he thinks

854
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: he is ready to keep in terms of everyone around him.

855
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 1: Of very good fighter, as I indicated, has I think

856
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: earned a step up. Maybe this will be too much

857
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: of one, but I sort of get the matchmaking. It's

858
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: just that people associate gam Rock with the top of

859
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: this division, and with good reason. But for other factors,

860
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Speaker 1: as we just mentioned, the client fight actually makes a

861
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: little bit more sense.

862
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 3: I like the fight. The thirty year old client from

863
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 3: Slovakia is of course nicknamed mister highlight. He's on an

864
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 3: unbeaten streak that has reached seven fights. There is a

865
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 3: draw in there, a majority draw against Ji Herbert, but

866
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 3: he's unbeaten in those seven fights. Vegas thinks this will

867
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 3: be a close one. The odds according to DraftKings plus

868
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 3: one thirty Clin minus one five to five the veteran

869
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 3: Gamra Luke. How much is the fact that Gamra, mostly

870
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 3: known for wrestling, Klein has a nasty shutdown takedown percentage.

871
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 3: How much of that is playing into these odds in

872
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 3: your eyes?

873
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, there have to be some Lulevit kleinb above ninety

874
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 1: percent takedown defense. That's very, very very good. That's very good.

875
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a tough customer. But at the same time, like,

876
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: who are the guys he's fought that can wrestle, Like Gamrock,

877
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: Let's go through it, Roosevelt Roberts, no Thiago Moises, no

878
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: aj Cunningham, no Ignacio obam Mondez. Is very good, but

879
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: he's not a wrestler on the level of Gamroth, Mason Jones,

880
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 1: Davonte Smith and then Shane Young or some other fights

881
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 1: he lost along the way. Like none of those guys

882
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: wrestle like Gamrock. You know what I mean. So this

883
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: is what I mean. This is why. Actually I know

884
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: people are looking at the Yon versus McGee fight and

885
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: then Gamroth versus Klein, and I think a lot of

886
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 1: people like these are not the names that I thought

887
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: they would have paired. But when you actually dig a

888
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: little bit beneath the surface, again, the Jan McGee one

889
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: might be just more function of who's available on what

890
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: kind of calendar. But in this case, there are good

891
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: reasons for both guys to take this fight, and they

892
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: It means something much more for Klein than it would

893
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: for Gamrock. But Gamrod needs to get right and this

894
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: could help him do exactly that.

895
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 3: Since Gamrock's UFC debut in twenty twenty, when he lost

896
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 3: a split decision to Geram Kute Lazzi, look, he's been

897
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 3: very impressive. That split decision loss to Hooker in his

898
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 3: last fight, the twenty twenty two decision loss to benil

899
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 3: der Jusch. Both losses maybe slowed what would have been

900
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 3: a rise toward true contention at the top level, But

901
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 3: in between Luke He's got a submission to Jeremy Stevens,

902
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 3: a TKO win over Carlos Diego Fajeda, a decision win

903
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 3: over Armin Sarukian, split decision over Jalen Turner, an injury

904
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 3: TKO over Rafael Fhaziv, and then a decision over the

905
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 3: veteran former champion RDA. A very credible resume there. That's

906
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 3: a better resume than most in this division. But would

907
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 3: you agree that people don't look at him as a conqueror.

908
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: However, yes, what why would you look at him like

909
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: a conqueror?

910
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: I mean he's beaten big names, but I don't look

911
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 3: at him as a guy that I'm just waiting for

912
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 3: his moment to get that title.

913
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: Shof. They look at him like a domineering wrestler. They

914
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: do that, but they don't look at him much beyond that.

915
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: Like his striking is I think useful to him, but

916
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: it's not especially dangerous. He's not a huge submission threat.

917
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: He's just really doggedly, you know, like a like a

918
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: torture the metaphor, like a dog on a bone. I

919
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: mean he is. He's He's got really aggressive, good scrambling wrestling,

920
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: top control, you name it. That's where he lives and breathes,

921
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: and that that has actually helped him get as far

922
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: as he has, but it's also kind of limited him.

923
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: Bec It's kind of limited like what he could be,

924
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: and I think it's limited him limited him in the

925
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: Hooker fight, he had no real other offense, not much

926
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: of an offense, I should say, to go to. It's

927
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 1: kind of been the thing that has propelled him as

928
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: well as been the albatross around his neck. It's actually

929
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: an opportunity for against Cline. Yeah, I'm sure he's gonna

930
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 1: use his wrestling, but if the wrestling is not there,

931
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: this is a good opportunity for Gamrot to show us

932
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: maybe he's got some other stuff and we can get there.

933
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: We'll have to see.

934
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 3: Look, how would you gain great excuse me, the depth

935
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 3: of this particular APEX card.

936
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: That's more of a question for main card minute boyfriend

937
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: of the Year material.

938
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, but he's gonna praise it, you know that.

939
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 5: You know he'll be like, oh no, no, let me

940
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 5: let me run through it. I mean the main and

941
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 5: Komaine a solid I don't think we can deny that.

942
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: That's fine.

943
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 5: There's a steep drop off after that. Kaitlyn Vieira Macy Chasson.

944
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 5: That's a good fight, you know, someone's gonna come out

945
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 5: top for some.

946
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: For some people are hyping the Billy ray Goff and

947
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 1: Rami's Brahima fight, which should be action oriented.

948
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 5: I think I don't love that because it came together

949
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 5: last minute. Brahimaj was supposed to be fighting Oban Elliott.

950
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 5: Billy Golf was supposed to be fighting co Is his

951
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 5: last name, I don't know his first name. I apologize

952
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 5: that got rescheduled. Now Oban Elliott's fighting co at iSER Baijan,

953
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 5: And now.

954
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: This matchup's made. I'm a little worried this one might

955
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: be a dud.

956
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 3: Hey, guys, I'll just settle it for you. This car

957
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: blows after the top two. Yes, it's acceptable on the

958
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: main and Komain a solid. It blows chunks after that.

959
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 3: It sucks the horn if you will, will you Luke?

960
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: I will not suck the horn, but I do recognize

961
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: that there is a horn to be sucked.

962
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, who's going to be the

963
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 3: biggest winner on this undercard? Let me ask you that,

964
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 3: who's gonna answer their position or who has that potential?

965
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: Uh that's a good one. Mm uh probably if he can.

966
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: Maybe ram Is Brahimi could be one of those guys. Uh,

967
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: the Kevin Vieira, I think could you know, add a

968
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: little bit to something if she wins, maybe Zachary Reese

969
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: and do just go to Dorovich off alto something something

970
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 1: as well.

971
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 3: I do like that Vieira Chazon fight. There's some there's

972
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 3: that's a good matchup there. We do have some from

973
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 3: good old gam Rot on his motivation entering this client fight,

974
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 3: which certainly could be a big one for his advancement

975
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: up the rankings.

976
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 10: He's dangerous upon a tough man, high level striker, very explosive,

977
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 10: very good kick, high kick, old kick. He has good

978
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 10: wrestling defense statistic, But the question is who tried to

979
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 10: take him down? You know the guys who who shout

980
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 10: his leg? This was not high level wrestler. So he

981
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 10: defends this. So I want to ruin his statistic this fight. Yeah,

982
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 10: but I want to be brave this fight, you know,

983
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 10: I want to exchange punch with him, take him down,

984
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 10: making diet touch touch, hit him, don't be hit, and

985
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 10: finish in the ground.

986
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 3: Well, look, he made the similar points you did of

987
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 3: great takedown defense, but against two against two, also, what

988
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 3: do you make of old gam Rot? They're saying, I'm

989
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 3: gonna take some chances, I'm gonna throw, take give back.

990
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 3: Are we gonna see aos a surprising three round battle here?

991
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope. I hope it's not standard gam Rot,

992
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: which is the up your symbol from nineteen ninety five.

993
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 1: I hope, you see, in all seriousness, I kind of hope.

994
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: I hope that we get a little bit more. I

995
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: hope that there's a little bit more to it then

996
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: we still you know, Gamrot wins, but he wins the

997
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: same way he always wins. Well, then yeah, it's a

998
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: nice win, but you're just kind of back where you

999
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: were before. Like, let's let's see if you can up

1000
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: the ante. Let's see if you can get to another place.

1001
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, I know what place

1002
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 3: we're trying to get to, Luke, I want to get

1003
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 3: there too, you know what I mean?

1004
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: What's that high at balls?

1005
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 3: I'd also accept that. Thank you very much, Hey help

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, Luke Thomas. Let's go

1036
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 3: into topic number two. As we record this, the UFC

1037
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 3: continues to be in its negotiation post negotiation exclusive negotiation

1038
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 3: window with the UFC with the ESPN excuse me, and

1039
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 3: looking towards a new broadcasting deal. Will it be Netflix,

1040
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 3: will it be Prime? Will it be Fubo Sports? Probably not,

1041
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 3: but Luke reports are starting to suggest here that UFC

1042
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 3: is likely in some or most and potentially even all

1043
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 3: capacity set to return to ESPN if this goes down

1044
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 3: this way. What would a return to ESPN mean for

1045
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 3: UFC at this juncture when we know they were ambitiously

1046
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 3: seeking one billion dollars per year for a new deal

1047
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 3: that would essentially triple what they previously received. And how

1048
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 3: will this land with the fan base if we see UFC,

1049
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 3: like I mentioned, signed up for a majority or all

1050
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 3: of it staying on the plus oh.

1051
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: Man, I feel like this is a big topic. I mean,

1052
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: I okay, so here's why I think this is kind

1053
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: of a big deal. BC. Maybe you disagree, but it

1054
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: seems to me that the fans have been led to

1055
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: believe that the UFC, not without some good reason, but

1056
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: they've been led to believe that the UFC is basically

1057
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: done with ESPN when this deal is up. They didn't

1058
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: reach a deal in the exclusive of negotiating window, and

1059
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 1: they're talking to other players, and yeah, you know, there's

1060
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: always a chance they could go back to ESPN, but

1061
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: the likelihood is that they're going to just take their

1062
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: services to Netflix and maybe not be on ESPN at all,

1063
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: or if they are in some very very minor capacity.

1064
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: And I think it's actually the opposite. Now, again, we're

1065
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: not in these board rooms, we're not in these negotiations,

1066
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: we are not in these places where these conversations are

1067
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: being had. But I believe we have this asset if

1068
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 1: we can from Variety Magazine, I'll let me read it

1069
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Speaker 1: to you for the folks who are listening on the

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00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: audio platform. Quote. In terms of distribution, the UFC will

1071
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Speaker 1: likely keep most of its content with ESPN and split

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00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: off other pieces to a streaming platform. The exclusive access

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00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: ESPN Plus has to the UFC's pay per view and

1074
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: fight night events are a key value proposition for several subscribers,

1075
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: and the UFC's growth has helped drive day seventy five

1076
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: percent year of a year increase and scribs. I'm not

1077
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: sure how true that is, but whatever from the UFC's perspective,

1078
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: Disney's ability to broadcast fights via ESPN, ESPN Plus and

1079
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: ABC offers a unique blend of channels to showcase its

1080
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: athletes and gain more fans. But Netflix makes the most

1081
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: sense to emerge as a new home for some of

1082
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: the UFC's content, considering the existing relationship with TKO and

1083
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: the fact that the streamers investments in live sports have

1084
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: largely been focused on combat sports. So there's more to

1085
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 1: that story, obviously, but here's the deal BC. They're almost

1086
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: certain to remain with ESPN. Again, as the question you

1087
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:37,720
Speaker 1: indicated in, I think the majority of its capacity recently there.

1088
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: If you go to the ESPN Plus back end, they've

1089
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: they've wiped tons of content out of there, only like

1090
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: the most recent events are on there still. But like

1091
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 1: the New York Post reported that that was because they're

1092
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: doing some technological changes to the back end, and that

1093
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: stuff should go back on there. So we'll see how

1094
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: that goes.

1095
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 3: When they wiped the back end, do you think they

1096
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 3: were standing.

1097
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,720
Speaker 1: Only if they wanted to do it correctly and fully,

1098
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: unlike your disgusting body, which just walks around with feces

1099
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: between your cheeks. In any case, it's too far in

1100
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: any case. In any case, But BC, here's what you

1101
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: have to think about, the way in which the UFC

1102
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: delivers its product, right, How they create tiers, how they

1103
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: build a calendar. All that stuff is driven by the

1104
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: broadcast deal and what they want from the UFC. In

1105
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,919
Speaker 1: other words, how many events do they want a year,

1106
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: how long do they want those events to be? The

1107
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: way in which they currently give twenty million dollars to

1108
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: the UFC per pay per view event, right, so that

1109
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: number might be expected to grow to grow in the

1110
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: next television deal. But I'm trying to point out the

1111
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: way in which the content is delivered to us, both

1112
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: in terms of ESPN's you know, user interface, but in

1113
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: how it's packaged and built and how much of it

1114
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: there is, and what in incentives are built into the

1115
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: UFC to try in certain places and not in others.

1116
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: All of that is driven by the arrangements with the

1117
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: broadcast deal again overseas commitments too, but a huge portion

1118
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: of it. What I'm trying to say is, b see

1119
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: if they change the way that the contracts work, if

1120
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 1: they create new incentives to I don't know, I'm gonna

1121
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: make up something, build ten less events, or make pay

1122
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 1: per views much stronger by whatever's in the contract itself

1123
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: for you know, you name it, all different kinds of

1124
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,919
Speaker 1: ways that could change how the product is built for

1125
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: us in the end as consumers. And I think my

1126
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: hope would be if they're going to stay with ESPN,

1127
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: that ESPN wises up and makes the UFC have to

1128
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: earn it a little bit more with how they deliver

1129
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: the product.

1130
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 3: I mean, look, when ESPN recently cut terms with Top

1131
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 3: Rank at the end of their deal, which will officially

1132
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 3: expire following this July twenty six card with x Anders Ayaz,

1133
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 3: the feel around here was that for all the money

1134
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 3: Top Rank in boxing, I mean, the fuel around there,

1135
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 3: the whispers where for all the money Top Rank was guaranteed,

1136
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 3: they didn't necessarily provide the big fights that was expected

1137
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 3: at the beginning of the deal. Remember they did paqi

1138
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 3: al Horn to millions of viewers on live ESPN. I

1139
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 3: wonder if I mean, I don't wonder. It feels like

1140
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 3: it's a very similar scenario here. You could argue back

1141
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 3: with what you just did that the only reason why

1142
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 3: we have fight cards nearly every weekend, which is completely

1143
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 3: stretching and watering down the product, is because ESPN wants

1144
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 3: it that way. Now does ESPN want it that way

1145
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 3: in the apex warehouse? I think that's another conversation. Does

1146
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 3: ESPN like the almost you know, punting of the matchmaking

1147
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 3: this quality this calendar year? I think that's another argument.

1148
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 3: But let's talk about the elephant in the room if

1149
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 3: this is true, the elephant in the room being Netflix

1150
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:52,240
Speaker 3: into a smaller degree slash Prime Video. I mean, TKO

1151
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 3: wasn't shy in their ambition of saying they're seeking one

1152
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 3: billion per year. They're trying to triple the original deal

1153
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 3: with the ESPN in terms of value. But how much

1154
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 3: in your eyes based on the rumors And we can

1155
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 3: only go on rumors and sourcing here because neither you

1156
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 3: have c TKO Turkey Ala chic ring or commenting published

1157
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 3: publicly on what really happened here. But We are kind

1158
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 3: of led to believe that the weekend of the Netflix

1159
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 3: upfront in New York City, that Dana White and Turkey

1160
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 3: were there, probably under the guise of launching TKO Boxing

1161
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 3: with a Canelo Crawford fight this September. Then we saw

1162
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 3: what happened with the date being changed. In all this crypticness,

1163
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,760
Speaker 3: do you believe that there's a possibility here that Turkey

1164
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 3: costs UFC parts of this deal with his behavior if

1165
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 3: those reports are true, or do you think it's simply

1166
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 3: Netflix is on record saying they only want big events,

1167
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 3: grand events. Doesn't really do big grand events.

1168
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: Anymore, or they could with pay per view. But do

1169
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: they want to give up some of that to Netflix?

1170
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 1: Maybe they do, Maybe the answers they do. Maybe they

1171
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: want to give them, like the Fox deal, one a

1172
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: quarter or something like that. That seems entirely possible. I

1173
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: guess we'll have to wait and see. But the TKO

1174
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: thing is really interesting, bec because the UFC has been

1175
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: looking for a billion dollars a year in this broadcast renewal,

1176
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: so that's what they want. They want a billion a year,

1177
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: And that Variety report I just showed said that they're

1178
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: probably closer to the seven to eight hundred million. But

1179
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: if they included TKO boxing as part of the deal

1180
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 1: with ESPN, that could bump into a billion, right, So

1181
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: the combination of UFC plus TKO boxing could end up

1182
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: getting a billion dollars or you know, some combination between

1183
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: the two of Netflix and and and ESPN. But this

1184
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: is the thing, dude, like who wants the APEX fights?

1185
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 1: Like everybody wants, you know, you would imagine that UFC

1186
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: pay per views would be highly coveted right by ESPN,

1187
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: by Netflix, you name it. And even some of the

1188
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: fight nights could potentially be highly coveted as well. Remember

1189
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: some of the stuff airs on ABC, the stuff in

1190
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: Abu Dhabi like these are you know, they can put

1191
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: some pretty big names on those two. But after that,

1192
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: what is the market for it? Now? If you're the UFC,

1193
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: you need that stuff because you have to keep the

1194
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 1: rest of the divisions moving with the events that take

1195
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: place there. And you know, if you're ESPN, I guess

1196
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: you want as many of those weekends filled up with

1197
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: UFC content as possible, although there's maybe some question about that,

1198
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: but you can't sell those by themselves, Like who's gonna

1199
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: buy those who's gonna buy APEX fights like they don't.

1200
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: They don't do anything for you all that much. And

1201
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: so the question is how you divide the more premium

1202
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: end of the product. Throwing in TKO might be Boxing

1203
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: might be able to do that for you, But that's

1204
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: there's a lot of wishy wash you there. And B

1205
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: see to the point you raised some of the rumoring,

1206
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: and we don't really have great reporting about it, but

1207
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: some of the rumoring that's out there is that Turkey

1208
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: might have blown up things so badly with Netflix that

1209
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: Netflix might be reconsidering their UFC push all together, and

1210
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: that now ESPN has even more leverage than they once

1211
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: did before. So I just want to be clear to fans,

1212
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: like I mean, I don't know what's gonna happen anymore

1213
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: than the other people, but there are there are a

1214
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,959
Speaker 1: lot of reasons to believe that. Like if you thought

1215
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,959
Speaker 1: we were done with ESPN and the ESPN plus era,

1216
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: it appears we are not. It appears we are not.

1217
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: I will say one more thing. I will say one

1218
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: more thing. I realize that other people have had totally

1219
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: normal experiences, but I have not had a great experience

1220
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: using ESPN plus it has been a very very bad

1221
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: service to me in numerous ways. Whatever happens next to

1222
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: BC if they stay with UFC, I'm begging ESPN to

1223
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: do something about this. I am begging them, and I

1224
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: know that they've got this new system that they're rolling out.

1225
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: I forget the new name of it. BC. Do you

1226
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: know that the new ESPN they're rolling out, the new

1227
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: the thirty thirty dollars a month service, it's got some

1228
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: new name.

1229
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 3: It's gonna be so you can order it separate from

1230
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 3: a cable package.

1231
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever, But it's supposed to come with a new interface.

1232
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that they've fixed those problems, because that would

1233
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: that would at least address one core element of the

1234
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: fans experiences, which is your app just doesn't work well.

1235
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 3: Right, No, that's that's damn right. But I gotta ask

1236
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 3: you a critical question here. Let me frame it like this.

1237
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 3: In twenty sixteen, when Zoofa and the Fertidas sold the

1238
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 3: UFC for over four billion to our Emmanuel Endeavor WM

1239
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 3: whatever became. You know, we know where we are now

1240
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 3: with Endeavor in TKO. What did they do leading up

1241
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 3: to that sale? They put on from the end of

1242
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen through UFC two hundred and twenty sixteen some

1243
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 3: of the most loaded cards and on fire matchmaking we've

1244
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 3: ever seen. Now, it certainly helps when McGregor's rocket ship

1245
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 3: is going like that during that period of time. Also,

1246
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 3: Ronda and Brocks still lingering. I get it, But do

1247
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 3: you think this shows potentially the unrivaled arrogance of TKO

1248
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 3: and UFC if after boldly asserting their goal to get

1249
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 3: one billion per year and potentially going to Netflix or

1250
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 3: Prime or both at the same time, if they end

1251
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 3: up majority or ex lusively on ESPN. Look at how

1252
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 3: the Fertidas did it leading into that sale. They put

1253
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,919
Speaker 3: their best foot forward by far. You have C two

1254
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 3: hundred week three cards in a row on successive nights,

1255
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 3: all title fights on top, and they're ridiculously loaded. You

1256
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 3: have C two hundred card even with John Jones in

1257
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 3: the drug situation there. Do you think we'll look back

1258
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 3: at the arrogance of UFC and TKO because how important

1259
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 3: is this window right now of negotiation, just like the

1260
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 3: exclusive one with UFC. I'm sorry with ESPN to open

1261
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 3: the year, and what has this calendar been? Not their

1262
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 3: best foot forward? Like the worst foot forward that we've

1263
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 3: seen in their modern run, where it's not just too

1264
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 3: many Apex warehouse cards, it's not just water down matchmaking,

1265
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 3: it's not just an inability to make the big fight.

1266
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 3: It's all of that at once. How do you enter

1267
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 3: such an important season when you're trying to get record

1268
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 3: setting money from people and trying to exercise the full

1269
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 3: potential of your brand by purposely putting out a weak

1270
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 3: value extraction product. How the hell do you think that's

1271
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 3: gonna work? Right?

1272
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: It's the million dollar question. It's the million dollar question.

1273
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: I I mean, I've kind of I'm kind of going

1274
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 1: in circles at this point. B see, but I I

1275
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: like I said, I'll just say it. I'll just say

1276
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: it one more time. What I am hoping is, you know,

1277
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: I was hoping that they could take their show somewhere else.

1278
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: But what I am hoping is that this new like

1279
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: the ESPN can look at the results of the last deal.

1280
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: Remember you see, remember the original deal was five years,

1281
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 1: and then they bumped it to seven because everyone was

1282
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Speaker 1: things have kind of come back down to earth a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Obviously, USC is still tremendously popular, but you know,

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Speaker 1: it's just not what it was, you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: know twenty twenty two or something like that, right, But

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Speaker 1: now they've got data, they've got data around this, and

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Speaker 1: they can say to them, you know, this didn't work

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Speaker 1: for us the last time out. We want it to

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Speaker 1: be this different way. I don't know if they will

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Speaker 1: or how that will look, but I'm hoping it'd be. See,

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Speaker 1: there's something else that we should kind of talk about

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Speaker 1: here a little bit, Like, for example, the UFC shot

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Speaker 1: itself in the foot when they told Francis to pound

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Speaker 1: sand And I mean, granted, maybe maybe he was gonna go,

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Speaker 1: but they should bring him back. They should. They probably won't,

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Speaker 1: but they should bring him back because he would inject

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Speaker 1: some life into this division. But the reality is, even

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Speaker 1: if you brought Francis back, and even if John were active, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you'd we'd be a lot happier. But heavyweight is in

1301
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Speaker 1: trouble beyond the UFC, Like heavyweight is in trouble globally.

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Speaker 1: There are just not as many people who are athletes

1303
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: of that size, who are good or whatever, who are

1304
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 1: interested in this. And it seems to me that if

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Speaker 1: you're ESPN, and you're looking at the situation asking some

1306
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Speaker 1: questions about, like, how do we make sure that this

1307
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Speaker 1: product because like what the UFC has done for a

1308
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Speaker 1: long time. Understandably, this is not a criticism. They've kind

1309
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Speaker 1: of received the sport as it was. I mean, it's

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01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: a little bit more to it than that, but they've

1311
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: they've done a lot of receiving of it and that

1312
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: worked fine when every when the rest of the architecture

1313
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Speaker 1: of the sport was operating as it was intended. But

1314
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Speaker 1: now in many ways it is not. And so the

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Speaker 1: other question you have to ask yourself your ESPN is

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Speaker 1: beyond just how do we arrange this product with this

1317
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Speaker 1: broadcast partner, what do we do to incentivize them to

1318
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Speaker 1: meet some of those challenges that exist beyond their shores

1319
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: that end up just affecting them as a consequence. I wonder,

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Speaker 1: by the way, if ESPN also might say to them, hey,

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Speaker 1: you got to get Francis back, you know what I mean, like, well,

1322
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Speaker 1: look what kind of hand are they going to have,

1323
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Speaker 1: and saying we want a better product.

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Speaker 3: For that to happen. Dana's got to go because this

1325
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Speaker 3: idea of holding lifelong grudges against fighters is holding up business.

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Speaker 3: I always say it, vincick Man pretty horrible human being

1327
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 3: in a lot of ways, but one thing is he

1328
01:03:54,760 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 3: always always always put the business ahead of everything. That's

1329
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 3: that's why from Brett Hart to the Ultimate Warrior to

1330
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 3: whoever the enemy could always come back through that door

1331
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 3: if it's better for business, because Vince knows in the end,

1332
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 3: the fans are happy he wins. Everything's great. He's still

1333
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Speaker 3: the boss. Whether whether someone screwed him over he welcome

1334
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 3: back or not. They're always coming back on his terms.

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Speaker 3: He's the boss. This whole era of Dana you know,

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Speaker 3: won sin and you're dead to him, and then you're

1337
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 3: writing people out of history. It's not gonna work moving forward.

1338
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Speaker 3: So if TKO wants to stay in business here and

1339
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 3: keep extracting all this wealth from UFC, they've not only

1340
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 3: got to try more to get things like this to happen.

1341
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 3: To bring back Francis, you got to get rid of

1342
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Speaker 3: this petty bullshit at the top and that stand away.

1343
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Speaker 3: I'm serious, Like TKO, you're actively ruining this fantastic promotion

1344
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 3: and it's not even like it's happening to you by accident.

1345
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 3: You're actively doing it. Look, if this were we don't

1346
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 3: bring up these names a lot, but if this were

1347
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 3: Frank and Lorenzo right now trying to set up to

1348
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 3: try to get a billion dollars a year, you know

1349
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Speaker 3: what we would have seen in the first six months

1350
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Speaker 3: this year. We would have seen Ilio versus islam at

1351
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 3: ifw we would have probably seen Connor versus Patty in

1352
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 3: the spring, and we would already have Jones aspinall booked

1353
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 3: like six months ago and playing up this long build

1354
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Speaker 3: to it. That's what it would have done, because at

1355
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Speaker 3: that time, do you know what it was about? Yes,

1356
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Speaker 3: it was about making money, but it was about promotion

1357
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Speaker 3: and putting the sport first and using the assets you

1358
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Speaker 3: have to get the most money. They don't care about

1359
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Speaker 3: using the assets to make the money. They just care

1360
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Speaker 3: about using the reputation. But your reputation is worth shit

1361
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Speaker 3: over time. When people can't afford to go to your

1362
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Speaker 3: shows and you're not even putting your best fighters in

1363
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Speaker 3: the fights, you're almost doing some Don Davis like bullshit

1364
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Speaker 3: right here.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I can go to mister LinkedIn

1366
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 1: quite that far, but it's time for a new way

1367
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 1: of thinking, Like we're just not dealing with the sport

1368
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Speaker 1: as it once was. It's in a new era, and

1369
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Speaker 1: there's good things about that, and there's bad things about that.

1370
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Speaker 1: There are things that are simpler, and there's things that

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Speaker 1: are now more challenging. And I think having a more

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Speaker 1: open attitude the way you describe, or at least a

1373
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Speaker 1: different attitude about what kinds of things you can do

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Speaker 1: and what makes sense for the business. You know, we're

1375
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Speaker 1: just not in a place where we can just entertain

1376
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Speaker 1: grudges like that and you're gonna have the same product.

1377
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Speaker 1: I mean, that used to be a bigger thing. BC.

1378
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Speaker 1: Dana White could maintain a grudge and you more or

1379
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: less didn't notice it, you know what I mean, Like

1380
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Speaker 1: you more or less someone was gone, but you didn't

1381
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Speaker 1: feel it in that same way. Like, yeah, they lost

1382
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Speaker 1: Paul Daily, but he had already lost to Josh Koshchek

1383
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 1: in that fight, and you know, the division kind of

1384
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Speaker 1: moved on without him. But now we're getting to a

1385
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 1: place where like just letting people go like that has

1386
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: a much much, especially at heavyweight, has like a huge consequence,

1387
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Speaker 1: and it just doesn't work the same way. Again, whether

1388
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Speaker 1: it's Netflix, especially if it's Netflix, bro, if Netflix is

1389
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Speaker 1: in business. They have to be saying you got to

1390
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Speaker 1: bring back Francis. You can't, you can't keep doing this

1391
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Speaker 1: like this is not acceptable. But I don't know, I

1392
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Speaker 1: don't know. The UFC are powerful negotiators and their powerful entity.

1393
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Speaker 1: This is I just want folks to be ready for

1394
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Speaker 1: some of these bigger considerations that we're airing out here.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying when we criticize Turkey Alaschik, for example,

1396
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Speaker 3: Turkey's done a lot of good for boxing the last

1397
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Speaker 3: year and a half, but there's another side to it too.

1398
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Speaker 3: And when we criticize him not from a sportswatching, prison,

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1400
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1401
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Speaker 3: he wants to make big fights, but he's like doing

1402
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Speaker 3: a video game style and screwing up people's arcs and

1403
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Speaker 3: just grabbing people and put them together. And what do

1404
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Speaker 3: we do? What do we say? Not a boxing guy.

1405
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Speaker 3: At the end of the day, maybe boxing people should

1406
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Speaker 3: really be handling this. Guess what are Emmanuel very successful guy?

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Speaker 3: Not an MME guy? Luke Okay, Mark Shapiro not an

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Speaker 3: MME guy. At the end of the day, not fight

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Speaker 3: promoters at the end of the day, value extractors. Okay,

1410
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Speaker 3: we got to wake up to this. Can we put

1411
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Speaker 3: the just like we say about PFL, Don Davis not

1412
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Speaker 3: a fight guy. Can we put the fight people and

1413
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Speaker 3: keep positions to make fight decisions? There is like a

1414
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Speaker 3: health of the sport factor that matters. It just feels

1415
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Speaker 3: like TKO can't wait to sell this thing to the

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Speaker 3: highest bidder right after they've ruined it. That's really what

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Speaker 3: it feels like. But enough of that absolute BS loop.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't have anything to add to that. Again,

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Speaker 1: I just want folks to be aware. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: an enormous question. Looking forward to seeing what happened.

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Speaker 3: But you'd agree it's playoff time as far as UFC

1424
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Speaker 3: broadcast rights negotiation right now, it's playoff time.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's out Game seven absolutely well.

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Speaker 1: on baloncesto. Yeah, I'm the baloncesto king here. It does

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Speaker 1: look like that the Thunder are the most complete team.

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01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're on fire at the moment. Hey, we have

1492
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 3: some breaking news and shout out to Long Island Luke,

1493
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 3: who's running the ticker at the bottom of the screen

1494
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 3: with the updated weights here. For Saturday night's APEX card,

1495
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 3: the Kaitlyn Vieira Macy chaz On fight has been changed

1496
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 3: from a bandamweight fight to a one hundred and forty

1497
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:53,680
Speaker 3: five pound fight. Luke, that would mean featherweight if they

1498
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:58,600
Speaker 3: still had a featherweight division. Also, the Trevin Giles versus

1499
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 3: Andreas Gustavson fight is canceled doing an injury with Giles.

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01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 3: There you go, you moved at all?

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01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: Not moved all?

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01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 3: Right? Right, here we go. Let's find out, Luke topic

1503
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 3: number three if you're moved at all by the boxing

1504
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 3: that is going on. News and notes first and foremost

1505
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 3: will hit up where I'm going to be Tomorrow night,

1506
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 3: Saturday night, eight pm Eastern on Prime Video. Premier Boxing

1507
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 3: Champions is back with a four fight card featuring the

1508
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 3: likes of former middleweight champion Caleb plant in the main

1509
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 3: event against hard charging Armando Raycendez. And how about Jermalt

1510
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 3: Charlow in his first fight in two years and just

1511
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 3: his second and a four year stretch, will return to

1512
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 3: make his debut at one hundred and sixty eight pounds

1513
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 3: against Thomas Conflake Lamana. Both are big betting favorites here,

1514
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 3: and of course the idea could be that we're building

1515
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 3: toward a grudge match playing out between Plant and Charlo

1516
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,600
Speaker 3: if they both win here. But also shout out a

1517
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 3: very good fight in the middleweight division here is Kirn Davis. Luke,

1518
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:02,639
Speaker 3: you know a Stephen Breadman Edwards trained fighter out of Wilmington,

1519
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 3: Delaware who upset Elijah Garcia, who you know, gave a

1520
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 3: very tough fight to Anthony Durell and a controversial draw

1521
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 3: few years back, even pushed Benavidez a little bit out

1522
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 3: of his weight class before Bredman threw in the towel.

1523
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 3: He'll be taking on seven and oh cuban unbeaten middleweight

1524
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 3: Joenle Hernandez. That's a very interesting fight that could have

1525
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 3: title implications moving forward, Luke, there is marination potential here

1526
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 3: where it could go wrong if Plant or Charlo lose.

1527
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 3: The tentative plan would be them fighting each other. But

1528
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 3: would you agree with me that seeing the state of

1529
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 3: Jamal Charlo is at thirty five years old, still unbeaten

1530
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 3: two division champion, but he's been through Helen Back a

1531
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 3: couple of times missed out on the Canelo fight on

1532
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 3: like two or three occasions. Yeah, he's a big favorite

1533
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 3: over Lamana. But we got to find out if he's

1534
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 3: still the same guy. The hitman comes Saturday night.

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01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,839
Speaker 1: Is he the one that got arrested for domestic violence recently?

1536
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:58,759
Speaker 3: Yes, he had a rough divorce. He admitted to bipolar issues,

1537
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 3: he had substance abuse issues. He's been through, Helen Back,

1538
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it.

1539
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 1: Have you talked to him this week?

1540
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I talked to him in the fighter meetings. He

1541
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 3: was more calm than he's been in some of these

1542
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 3: press conference moments where he's very emotional and almost off kilter.

1543
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 3: But he does seem here's one thing he said, Luke,

1544
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 3: and I want to get your feelings on this. He

1545
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 3: says this, I'm unbeaten. I've only fought once basically in

1546
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 3: a four year stretch. I didn't take damage in these fights.

1547
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 3: I got a ton of knockouts. He thinks that his

1548
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 3: mental has finally caught up to a point of maturity

1549
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 3: and understanding with his physical and that at thirty five,

1550
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 3: he's about to enter his peak prime at one hundred

1551
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 3: and sixty eight pounds.

1552
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 1: Man, I don't buy that.

1553
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,520
Speaker 3: I mean, he says he's even through all the hardships,

1554
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 3: been in the gym, always working out. Body is ready

1555
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 3: to go.

1556
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:49,640
Speaker 1: He's got a lot Okay, okay, fine, but like he

1557
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 1: fought twice in twenty nineteen, once in twenty twenty, once

1558
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, and then not at all in

1559
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, once in twenty twenty three, and didn't

1560
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 1: look good it all in twenty twenty four, and this

1561
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 1: is his first fight in twenty twenty five. Like he's

1562
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:07,719
Speaker 1: been super inactive. He's had you know, law enforcement issues,

1563
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 1: substance abuse issues. Now he's not fighting as you indicated

1564
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 1: to BC, like the toughest competition this time out. It's

1565
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 1: all set up fight to get the Plant one going.

1566
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 1: And they couldn't just make it because Charlo. I mean, dude,

1567
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 1: I think they're making this fight, Like why is PBC

1568
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 1: making this fight? Because they they need to see what

1569
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 1: the hell they've got with Charlow, Like what the hell

1570
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,639
Speaker 1: is left with him? You know what I mean? Plant

1571
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 1: to me seems like a pretty known and established and

1572
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 1: good commodity. And if they can make the fight it

1573
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 1: obviously speaks for itself and how big it would be.

1574
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 1: It'd be great. But dude, like this fight is I mean,

1575
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 1: Charlo can say what he wants. It's not like he's

1576
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 1: been taking a ton of damage all this time, so

1577
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 1: that's nice. But in terms of like competitive realities, they've

1578
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 1: just been absent from his life and.

1579
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 3: He got a lot to dancewer for it. It's an

1580
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 3: easy win, which is potential because of his skills are

1581
01:15:57,560 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 3: better than corn Flake Lamana. He's got a lot to

1582
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 3: ance with his mentality with a lot of things to

1583
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 3: set up potential for that big plant fight. Luke Lamana

1584
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 3: old Cornflake has been a He's a fighter slash regional promoter.

1585
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 3: He got knocked out somewhat famously by one punch in

1586
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 3: the first round against Arislani Laarra a few years ago

1587
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,600
Speaker 3: for a secondary middleway title. He told me in the

1588
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 3: Fighter Mings this week that after that fight, he ballooned

1589
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 3: to two hundred and thirty eight pounds. He was heavily depressed,

1590
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 3: he retired, he started smoking and drinking and eating bad,

1591
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 3: and then something triggered in him to make one more run.

1592
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 3: He's won his last nine fights, but all on the

1593
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 3: regional level. He is ranked in the top ten in

1594
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 3: the WBA and he's gonna move up to one sixty eight.

1595
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 3: He's calling this a rocky story. He says he's all in.

1596
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 3: This is his last chance and last opportunity, and he's

1597
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 3: been kind of cleverly pressing the buttons of Charlo. You're

1598
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 3: not smelling upset, are you?

1599
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 1: No?

1600
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, We'll see, We'll see.

1601
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 1: How let me ask you this be see how bad

1602
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 1: would it be? Forget about like making a fight after this,

1603
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 1: just for Charlo? How bad would this like this would be?

1604
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know how to contextualize it.

1605
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 1: What would this mean for him?

1606
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 3: This would be a it wouldn't just be a flat tire.

1607
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 3: It'd be a monstrous setback for him. This would be

1608
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 3: a gigantic setback for.

1609
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I'm a little be worried about his

1610
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 1: mental health. Like he says, he's.

1611
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 3: Fine now, but we've seen him like he's been off

1612
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:23,640
Speaker 3: kilter in a few of these press moments, you know,

1613
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 3: like a telegraion.

1614
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 1: But the Charlo's are always like that, are they not?

1615
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 1: Like they're always like, you know, mad at the world.

1616
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 3: And I am happy to say. Uh, I asked about Jermel,

1617
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 3: you know, because their relationship as twin brothers has been

1618
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 3: incredibly volatile at different points. And Jamal actually credits Jermel

1619
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 3: with him being able to get back in the ring

1620
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:46,759
Speaker 3: right now because he said his brother was there every

1621
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 3: step of the way. God is back and it's good

1622
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 3: to see them, you know, for each other now as

1623
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 3: they both need big comebacks coming up here as Dremel's

1624
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 3: threatening coming back to a big fight himself. Look in

1625
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 3: that main event, we're gonna get Caleb Plan a big

1626
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 3: favorite over Armando, Rayce and d but Armando rays and

1627
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 3: dies upset and knockout. Jared heard a few years ago

1628
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 3: and he gave Elijah Garcia a very tough fight into

1629
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 3: a late stoppage. This is gonna be an interesting fight.

1630
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:12,600
Speaker 3: Plant talked a lot of junk at the presser. He

1631
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 3: says he's coming out like crazy. Would you be fired

1632
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 3: up for a Plant Charlo fight.

1633
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 1: Later in the year, Man, I you know again, I

1634
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 1: can't get fired up about Charlo until so I see

1635
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 1: what the hell's going on. Also, you know, I mean,

1636
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 1: he's got real problems, but he's also got real problems

1637
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 1: to work on. As like a person. But okay, if

1638
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 1: you're just asking as a boxing fight, if he can

1639
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 1: look good, not just like get a win. I'm not

1640
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 1: talking about some bullshit ass win BC. I'm talking about

1641
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 1: like going there and make people like wow, dude, Jamal

1642
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 1: Charlo is back then, yes, I would have a lot

1643
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 1: of interest. But if you know, if it ends up

1644
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 1: being where he gets one by and it's whatever, and

1645
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 1: then Plant gets a win and it's whatever, well, I mean,

1646
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 1: you know, I'll take a fight, I suppose, but it

1647
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: doesn't do much for me in that regard.

1648
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:55,680
Speaker 3: Charlo's one fight in the last four years was a

1649
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 3: decision win over Jose Benefittez Junior, who moved up and

1650
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:00,080
Speaker 3: wait for that.

1651
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 1: A ten rounder.

1652
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty strong performance, but it unfortunately didn't lead to

1653
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 3: the momentum. And Plant said, look, I gotta take this

1654
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 3: fight against Race and D's because this is the path

1655
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 3: I have at the moment to get to a big fight,

1656
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:12,680
Speaker 3: and for him, that big fight is either Charlo. He

1657
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 3: also called out Mangia, who will get into in a second,

1658
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 3: as well as wanting a rematch with Canelo, because don't forget,

1659
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 3: Plant will be defending the interim super middleweight title here.

1660
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 3: Canelo is still the undisputed champion after the win over

1661
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 3: Williams School, so Caleb Plant not that far out of

1662
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 3: that if you can get some big wins. So the

1663
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 3: odds by the way for Charlo according to DraftKings minus

1664
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 3: fourteen hundred the favorite to the plus seven to fifty

1665
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 3: Lamana Luke. There's also a Ring Magazine report that they're

1666
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 3: going to announce the full July nineteenth pay per view

1667
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:46,959
Speaker 3: card during the broadcast on Saturday. That could include Pacquiel

1668
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 3: bar Barrios of course in the main event, Fondora Zoo

1669
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 3: Part two in the coal main event for the one

1670
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,799
Speaker 3: to fifty four title, then Brandon Figueroa in an exciting

1671
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 3: comeback fight, and how about the rematch of Pitbull cruising

1672
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 3: on Healthy Errol from earlier this year. I'm in if

1673
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 3: this is where they're going, Luke. And by the way,

1674
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:06,640
Speaker 3: call me, I'm ready. Let's call it.

1675
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I'll be honest. Pakiya coming back does

1676
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:13,599
Speaker 1: nothing for me, but I suspect for boxing fans it does.

1677
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 1: And you know, he is a name, you know who

1678
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 1: knows he thinks he can win, Luke. I doubt he's

1679
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,600
Speaker 1: training with just chicken, chicken and broccoli. You know, you

1680
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 1: never know, so we'll see, we'll see. I will say

1681
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 1: that the rest of that card looks great. Yeah, and

1682
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 1: again the Fondora Zoo too. That's a huge fight for

1683
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 1: Tim Zoo. I mean, I can't get that one wrong

1684
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 1: at all. Fight, So I love that.

1685
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 3: Do you think that he's putting clem butter all over

1686
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 3: his broccoli? And uh?

1687
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 1: And I make I make no claims about things I

1688
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 1: don't have evidence for. I'm just saying, would it be

1689
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 1: surprised if you know Vada showed up at his door

1690
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 1: and was like, well, you.

1691
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 3: Know, by the way, we're gonna get to the Mongia

1692
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 3: news in a second. But did you see that rant

1693
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 3: from Jamal Charlow after the press conference yesterday where he

1694
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 3: basically said every fighters on the stuff and even when

1695
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 3: as far as saying that there's regular fixed fights in

1696
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:09,759
Speaker 3: boxing and that fighters sort of agreed to Yes.

1697
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Is there any similarity between the Charlo's in boxing

1698
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 1: and the diaz Is in mma?

1699
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 4: To some degree?

1700
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 3: That is an interesting comparison. Not as famous, not as infamous.

1701
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 11: But.

1702
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,719
Speaker 3: Kind of really good fighters can win any moment, also

1703
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 3: kind of off kilter sometimes delightfully sometimes dangerously.

1704
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:32,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's meaningful differences obviously.

1705
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 3: Do you remember when we sat down with Jamal Charlow

1706
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three at one of those showtime wig ins.

1707
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 3: I think it was for Plant versus Benavidez and he

1708
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:44,640
Speaker 3: was It was like early in the morning and he

1709
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 3: was hammered. He was he was getting loose in termed

1710
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 3: four Lucas.

1711
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:50,760
Speaker 1: I had people write me about that, being like, was

1712
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 1: he okay? And I'm like, I think he was fine

1713
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:54,640
Speaker 1: in the sense that he was just I think he

1714
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 1: was just enjoying Vegas unfortunately, could.

1715
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 3: Be, could be Luke. We also have more breaking news

1716
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:00,240
Speaker 3: from Long Island in.

1717
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: This card has fallen the fuck apart man.

1718
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 3: Allen Nasamento missed wait for his flyweightout. He came in

1719
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 3: two and or technically one and a half pounds over

1720
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 3: that one plus plus one limit. There interesting stuff, Luke

1721
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 3: staying in boxing right here. Tayo Fema Lopez had another

1722
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 3: weird week on the internet. No racist comments, I think this.

1723
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 1: Time, no hard rs, but give it time.

1724
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 3: He did have a very public squabble, it seems, with

1725
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 3: Turkey Alaschk. According to Dan Rayfield, a fight freaks two

1726
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 3: nights reporting here and he has three sources on the record. Originally,

1727
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 3: Tao Fima Lopez was offered a large amount of money

1728
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 3: for a fight against Jeron boots Ennis for the unified

1729
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 3: Walterway title. Boots Ennis turned down the fight. Then Tayo

1730
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 3: Fema went to Twitter kind of ran his mouth a

1731
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 3: little bit, and then was offered, according to rafael A

1732
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 3: Devin Hainey fight as a replacement. But the fight offer

1733
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 3: in terms of a purse was smaller than the guarantee

1734
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 3: for boots Ennis. That led to or to Tao Femo

1735
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 3: calling Turkey Alashik a dictator on Twitter with the diick

1736
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 3: in dictator all capitalized and it led to some cryptic

1737
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:15,639
Speaker 3: tweets from Turkey kind of being, you know, pointing out

1738
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:18,839
Speaker 3: how crazy Tao is. Then Tao said he got fired.

1739
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 3: I don't really know what to make of this. If

1740
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 3: Tao Femo sabotaged another opportunity, or if he just doesn't

1741
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 3: want to fight Hani in comparison to the increased history

1742
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 3: he can make by moving up and fighting the best

1743
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 3: guy in boots. What do you make of all of this?

1744
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 3: From Tao's antics to Boots not wanting to fight. Can

1745
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 3: we still make Lopez Hani? Is it still the fight

1746
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:40,680
Speaker 3: to make her to people don't even care about that?

1747
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 1: They would care about either of them. No, they would

1748
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 1: care about Lopez Hanni, and they would care about Lopez Boots.

1749
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 1: I guess my thing is this the two questions for UBC,

1750
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 1: because I just don't understand this one. My understanding was

1751
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 1: they wanted to make the Hani and Lopez fight at

1752
01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 1: forty five not forty seven. Why the weird catchweight? And

1753
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 1: then secondly, why would Boots turn this down? I don't

1754
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 1: like because he's gonna do what to take on the

1755
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:13,760
Speaker 1: Brian Norman? Finally, like, what is the logic there?

1756
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 3: Like?

1757
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 1: Why is it? Why would you imagine that Boots would

1758
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 1: look at that situation and be like, that's not in

1759
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 1: my interest right now?

1760
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 3: Well, there are some that are guessing it's why am

1761
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 3: I going to reward this guy who's using racism against

1762
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 3: African Americans to try to bait them into fights. It's

1763
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 3: one thing. Another thing is Boots is finally starting to

1764
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 3: get the people in his own division to fight him

1765
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 3: for titles. Right he had the unification with Staniosis, and

1766
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 3: he looked absolutely brilliant. I don't believe a Brian Norman

1767
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 3: Boots fight is easy to make and is necessarily up next.

1768
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 3: But if that was the direction he was trying to go,

1769
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 3: whether it be get the other champion in Norman or

1770
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 3: the other other champion meaning Mario Barriosen whoever wins between

1771
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 3: him and Pacchio on July nineteenth, Maybe he's holding out

1772
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 3: to try to get bigger opportunities to further unify the titles,

1773
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 3: or maybe he just hates Tao. I don't know. We

1774
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 3: don't really have an explanation at this point, but I

1775
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:07,640
Speaker 3: wonder if the Taale thing is and I'm just speaking out,

1776
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 3: you know, personally here, what does he have to gain

1777
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 3: from fighting Haney, especially at a catchwaight. Tao has a

1778
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 3: title at one forty, but he thrives on being that

1779
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 3: guy who goes into a new division and calls out

1780
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 3: the you know, the toughest guy in jail on the

1781
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 3: first night. He did that against Lomachenko. He did that

1782
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 3: against Josh Taylor at one forty. Now he wants to

1783
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 3: do that against Boots at one forty seven, but that

1784
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:30,760
Speaker 3: fight's not gonna happen. So we got offered less to

1785
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:36,639
Speaker 3: fight Hani at a Catchwaight August sixteenth in Riodd So, Luke,

1786
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 3: you know, here's the deal. We've been in boxing with

1787
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 3: Turkey for a while now. When it comes to Fury

1788
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 3: versus Ousik better be versus bevall. You know, all these

1789
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 3: heavyweights that that all em and eight from Europe or

1790
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 3: what have you. You put those fights in read if

1791
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 3: that's the only way that can be made. Fine, But

1792
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 3: if you're going to do another bounce a bullshit here

1793
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 3: involving big American stars and you're gonna put them in

1794
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 3: read in front of three thousand people, Like, what are

1795
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 3: we doing here? If that's part of the motivation for Tao,

1796
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 3: who aggressively wants to be a star, wants to be

1797
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 3: a guy who's constantly stirring things up all over social media,

1798
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 3: we're not building our stars if they're fighting on Dezone

1799
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 3: and Riad at seven in the morning in front of

1800
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:20,680
Speaker 3: three thousand people. So maybe this is the start of

1801
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 3: pushing back against that. Do you do you find any

1802
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 3: part of that to be potentially interesting?

1803
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 1: I don't do these guys really care about fighting in

1804
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia If the money's right, I mean.

1805
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 3: They had to buy that. Maybe one or two pay days.

1806
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 3: But don't you get to a point where you're like,

1807
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 3: I'm trying to be a star.

1808
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 1: I'm trying to start yeah, yeah, yeah, So like as

1809
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 1: a hiatus, yeah, I'll take a big paycheck there, maybe

1810
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:48,600
Speaker 1: another big paycheck here, But when I really want to

1811
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 1: be something bigger than, larger than life, I can't do

1812
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 1: fighting in Saudi Arabia. And it's a little bit of

1813
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 1: a pushback on that. Boy, I would hope so, I mean,

1814
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 1: the American market needs it. I don't even know who

1815
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:01,759
Speaker 1: the next big star is in boxing that like American fans,

1816
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 1: even American sports fans, even dude, I've never seen boxing

1817
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 1: more divorced from the larger sports world than I do now. Yes,

1818
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 1: I can't. In all my time covering boxing, which you know,

1819
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 1: I'm not as in weeds as you have been, BC,

1820
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 1: but I've been doing it for a little while. Anyway,

1821
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 1: I've never seen it as far away from the rest

1822
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 1: of the sports world, quite literally and figuratively, as it

1823
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 1: is today. And I can't imagine that's good for it

1824
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 1: long terms or not. In this market. I would hope

1825
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 1: that the fighters are pushing back, recognizing that it's great

1826
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 1: to get a couple of paydays, but this comes at

1827
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 1: a pretty heavy cost.

1828
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 3: Well, I'm just wondering because you know, if you're trying

1829
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 3: to get in Taeo Fimo's head, and it's probably you know,

1830
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:43,600
Speaker 3: a mess in there. We do know that he like

1831
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 3: wants attention, and if you recalling the build of that

1832
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 3: Time Square card, he was like aggressively trying to fight

1833
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 3: for attention at these press conferences because everything was about

1834
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 3: Ryan Garcia and Haini because they were building to that.

1835
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 3: He was like in also ran on the card. He

1836
01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 3: was constantly trying to stir things up and yelling at

1837
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 3: the other guy's going, you're not promoting hard enough. Then

1838
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 3: he goes into that fight. It's a debacle in terms

1839
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 3: of the viewership and all that. He's the only one

1840
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:10,840
Speaker 3: that fights pretty well, and all everybody's talking about is

1841
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 3: Hane Garcia and Roley and how they screwed up a

1842
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 3: Time squarecard. Like he's not even getting the attention the

1843
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 3: exposure for a big win in there. I wonder if

1844
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:21,640
Speaker 3: he's looking around going like what am I going to

1845
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 3: gain from Haney who just proved that he's willing to

1846
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 3: fight as boring as possible to get a win.

1847
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know about that theory boring those titles at.

1848
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 3: Stake either against Haney in this catchway fight, you know

1849
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

1850
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 1: So I don't see so you're not getting the same

1851
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 1: kinds of thing. I mean, I really believe it could

1852
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 1: be just as simple as atmosphere, and atmosphere matters, and

1853
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 1: you know, having a fight in Philly if it's against

1854
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 1: Boots or having a fight And where's where's hany from.

1855
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 3: Oakland HAINI Yeah, yeah, lives in the so somewhere.

1856
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 1: Around there for to get a live atmosphere and then

1857
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 1: to therefore get the best out of it. I mean,

1858
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 1: I'm less convinced by the catchway being a problem, but

1859
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 1: it's interesting to see. I mean, Tao's the thing is,

1860
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 1: it's hard to really know, right because Tao is such

1861
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 1: a loose cannon that his pushback feels like half strategic

1862
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 1: and then half erratic, and it's hard to know what's

1863
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 1: what about.

1864
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 3: It, and and and he's also kind of pulled hip

1865
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:18,679
Speaker 3: on top rank in the past and is never afraid

1866
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 3: to put himself in the bad light with that. Yeah,

1867
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 3: so we don't know if this is a real beef

1868
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 3: between him and Turkey and this is the first chance

1869
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 3: we get of someone not not someone on the other

1870
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 3: side like Canelo and Tank were when they were arguing

1871
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 3: with Turkey, someone on the inside who's fighting with him. Here, though,

1872
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 3: is some sound from Tao, and we can decide what

1873
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 3: we believe on this. We don't panotize.

1874
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 4: We just so love I love you, Turkey.

1875
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:48,640
Speaker 3: I want to.

1876
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:00,600
Speaker 11: Get that.

1877
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 3: I hold your hand like Crawford. Now he did say

1878
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 3: all diddy there, Luke. So I mean, I don't know

1879
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 3: if things are good in Turkey Land with him, but uh, combat.

1880
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 1: Sports hold your hand like Turkey did. That's a like

1881
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 1: like Crawford did.

1882
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 3: That is uh combat sports has fed up at the moment.

1883
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 1: Oh dude. Combat sports is a disaster right now.

1884
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 3: It's an absolute disaster. And I know who to blind.

1885
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 3: There's a few people I know, all of them. Okay,

1886
01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:26,400
Speaker 3: that's just my point on this.

1887
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:29,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, LTBC MK, that's it. That's who's the fault.

1888
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 3: Let's continue down the boxing road. Here of weird news,

1889
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 3: himI Mungia, who is fresh off a decision went over

1890
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 3: Bruno Serrace in the rematch after being knocked out in

1891
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 3: a huge upset, has tested positive through VADA for exogynous testosterone.

1892
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:50,560
Speaker 3: Excuse me, but Luke, here's the key. That was his

1893
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:54,200
Speaker 3: first fight under Canelo Alvarez trainer and manager Eddie Renoso,

1894
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:57,920
Speaker 3: making it the sixth Eddie Renoso fighter in like the

1895
01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 3: last five or six years to pop Dirty. Let's show

1896
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:05,680
Speaker 3: the uh the Juice poster if we can skip that,

1897
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:08,600
Speaker 3: go to the Juice the meme here of the fantastic

1898
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:12,960
Speaker 3: early nineties hip hop movie Juice. We have Canelo, Oscar Valdez,

1899
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:17,720
Speaker 3: Andy Ruiz, Ryan Garcia. There was also Julio Martinez.

1900
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 1: I believe in this, Luis Neeri.

1901
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, there's been a few here, Luke. So we'll

1902
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 3: get into the comments from Serrace on a second. But

1903
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:30,240
Speaker 3: first and foremost, everyone's point fingers at Eddie. I mean,

1904
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 3: even memo Heredia known uh ped supplier his point fingers.

1905
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 3: And now this is giving everybody the room, and we've

1906
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 3: seen people come out and continue to attack Snack and

1907
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 3: Victor CONTI we got a drug problem. We already knew that,

1908
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Speaker 3: but Eddie's got a real drug problem in that camp.

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Speaker 3: It seems it.

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Speaker 1: Appears, I mean again, Oh Eddie Macy Barber missed Waite.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome.

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Speaker 3: She gave in at one twenty six point five, so

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Speaker 3: I found.

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Speaker 1: Over she's gonna need the box, so she could probably

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Speaker 1: make it. But Jesus Christ, all right, uh, BC, I

1916
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Speaker 1: mean you gonna listen. I'm not gonna rehash my worldview

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Speaker 1: on drugs and sports for the millionth time. But what

1918
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Speaker 1: I will say is this, if you've had six people

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Speaker 1: while they've worked with you pop for some kind of

1920
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Speaker 1: performance a dancing drug, you are not entitled to the

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Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt like you have surrendered it at

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Speaker 1: that point. I mean, you can decide ultimately what it

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Speaker 1: all means or doesn't in the end. People can make

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Speaker 1: their opinions. But I'm just trying to be clear. That's

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Speaker 1: the kind of thing that is so outrageous and so

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Speaker 1: over the top. You are not allowed to push back

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Speaker 1: and say the testing was bad, We're targeted. It's unfair.

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Speaker 1: I want to be clear about something, BC. You know,

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Speaker 1: in these cases Ryan Garcia, Canelo Alvarez, Himimongia and other ones,

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Speaker 1: these are typically, not always, not always, these are either

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Speaker 1: a main event guys or B A sides In main

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Speaker 1: event guys, I mean, I mean, I guess Garcia was

1933
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Speaker 1: the B side relative to Devin Haney. But you understand

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Speaker 1: my point. We're not talking about people who are like

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Speaker 1: disadvantaged in the fight game, who are under the thumb

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Speaker 1: of some kind of other force that they're trying to

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Speaker 1: act around. These are people with the wind at their back,

1938
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 1: irrespective of what kind of drugs you think they are

1939
01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 1: or aren't using. If you have this much of a problem,

1940
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:38,400
Speaker 1: you you have earned your reputation many times over, and

1941
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:40,680
Speaker 1: there's nothing else you can say about it. It is

1942
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Speaker 1: yours to now hold well.

1943
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Speaker 3: The ring magazine put out the statement that Haimi Mangia

1944
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 3: put out in a video in Spanish, but it's translated here.

1945
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 3: First there's Bruno Sirees, the opponent, who says, I'm shocked

1946
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:54,720
Speaker 3: by the news that Mongi a tested positive. There's no

1947
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 3: place in boxing for cheating. The sport is dangerous enough already.

1948
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 3: I went to Mexico and knocked out Mangia fair square

1949
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:02,680
Speaker 3: in December, and I was gracious enough to give him

1950
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Speaker 3: a rematch in May. He knew he could not beat

1951
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Speaker 3: me on a level playing field. I trust that this

1952
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 3: result will be overturned immediately. Also, we have a ring

1953
01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:13,760
Speaker 3: magazine put out We're not gonna show on the screen,

1954
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:16,840
Speaker 3: but I can read it to you. Mongia's statement there said,

1955
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 3: throughout my boxing career, I've undergone numerous anti doping tests

1956
01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:23,080
Speaker 3: and have never tested positive. I was tested twice during

1957
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 3: camp and both results came back negative, which is why

1958
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 3: receiving this notification of an adverse finding has be in

1959
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 3: complete surprise. Several experts have explained that there are multiple

1960
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:36,800
Speaker 3: ways contamination can occur, and I am fully willing to

1961
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Speaker 3: undergo any retroactive, current or future testing to demonstrate that

1962
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 3: I have always been a clean athlete. I will not

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01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:45,759
Speaker 3: make any further comments on this matter until the process

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01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 3: is concluded with the results of the B sample. Luke

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01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:51,920
Speaker 3: the odds will tell you that his B sample is

1966
01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:54,839
Speaker 3: probably gonna be the same result here. I know everybody

1967
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 3: can claim tainted me or whatever, but I'm happy that

1968
01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 3: more people are finally coming out, including Chris l on

1969
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 3: the UH Inside Boxing Live podcast with Dan Kenobio and

1970
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:06,000
Speaker 3: was basically like, look, heads up, people, all your favorite

1971
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:07,200
Speaker 3: fighters are probably juicing.

1972
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, who's been saying this, Becee, as long

1973
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 1: as you've known them, who's been.

1974
01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 3: Saying all the heroes of the last twenty years have like,

1975
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 3: let's wake up to that. But I don't know what

1976
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 3: do you make of Jamal Charlow making that rant, saying

1977
01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:23,880
Speaker 3: specifically about snack that all their supplements that they give

1978
01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 3: you have just shy of like you know how like

1979
01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 3: Delta eight's are a trick to be able to sell

1980
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:29,800
Speaker 3: THHC over the counter at.

1981
01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:31,880
Speaker 1: A gas station, to remove a molecule to make it.

1982
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's saying the same thing is happening with for example,

1983
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:38,800
Speaker 3: Victor Conte's snack and by the way, Tank Davis, Devin Hanney,

1984
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:41,280
Speaker 3: they've all been on record for years, you know, shouting

1985
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 3: negatively out at snack. But is this is this gonna

1986
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 3: do make any We're not gonna make any change because

1987
01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:48,639
Speaker 3: people want to make fights at the end of the day,

1988
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:51,800
Speaker 3: and drug tests stop the fights from happening. Don't tell you.

1989
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 1: Boxing has bigger issues than whether mungia used drugs. Boxing

1990
01:35:56,560 --> 01:35:58,680
Speaker 1: has issues like has anyone does anyone still give a

1991
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:02,320
Speaker 1: fuck about this sport? Like it's not again is ESPN

1992
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:05,760
Speaker 1: reporting on this on front page news? I mean, when

1993
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:07,479
Speaker 1: was the last time boxing was front page news on

1994
01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 1: ESPN at all? Like it's that inside the bubble thing.

1995
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:13,400
Speaker 1: It's a question about like how the inside the community feels.

1996
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 1: But like you know, I keep trying to explain to people,

1997
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 1: drugs are here. It's something you can't do anything about it.

1998
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 1: But you just have to recognize that fact. They're not

1999
01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:23,280
Speaker 1: going to go away. You can't make them go away.

2000
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:26,840
Speaker 1: You have to reconcile what it means that drugs are here.

2001
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 3: Drugs win the drug or or every Time news at

2002
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:35,439
Speaker 3: eleven and breaking news from the APEX. Luke Macy Barber,

2003
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:38,679
Speaker 3: they got her in the box. She officially missed weight.

2004
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:42,040
Speaker 3: Inside the box will not weigh in again. We're probably

2005
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 3: going to see her lose a percentage of her purse

2006
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 3: toward Aaron Blanchfield. But Luke, we just gassed up Barber

2007
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:50,000
Speaker 3: as a plus underdog with the idea that a big

2008
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:52,599
Speaker 3: win could lead her to a title shot. How bad

2009
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:54,560
Speaker 3: of a look is this to?

2010
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Speaker 2: Uh?

2011
01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:57,800
Speaker 3: I mean to have that just that little extra weight

2012
01:36:57,840 --> 01:36:58,080
Speaker 3: on you that?

2013
01:36:58,200 --> 01:36:59,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I mean, even if she goes in there

2014
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 1: and blow the doors off Blanchfield, she missed weight, Natalia

2015
01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:04,320
Speaker 1: Silla is going to be number one contender. So there

2016
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 1: you go. Now, Now, if Blanchfield does the opposite, a

2017
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:10,960
Speaker 1: little more interesting, could be a little more interesting. But

2018
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:14,080
Speaker 1: Barbara now officially has put herself behind the eight ball. Yeah.

2019
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:17,120
Speaker 1: I mean, remember, if you're auditioning for a title shot,

2020
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:19,800
Speaker 1: you're not even gonna get the one pound allowance, much

2021
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:22,599
Speaker 1: less one and a half. You got to make one

2022
01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 1: twenty five on the nugget, so.

2023
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:28,879
Speaker 3: Problem probably Yeah, on the ball, on the balls, yeah.

2024
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:31,839
Speaker 1: The the on the on the bong island, Dad, nutsack,

2025
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:32,439
Speaker 1: you gotta.

2026
01:37:32,200 --> 01:37:34,800
Speaker 3: Get a ball right there, yeah, long island. Luke, what

2027
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:37,120
Speaker 3: is your thoughts here on Macy Barber. This's a bad

2028
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:39,320
Speaker 3: look on women's. Man, we were just this fight was

2029
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:41,160
Speaker 3: supposed to save women's Yeah, she.

2030
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 5: Didn't look great on the scale either. By the way,

2031
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:45,360
Speaker 5: you mentioned like she's got to make championship waight going forward?

2032
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 5: Erin nailed it on the head one twenty five, so yeah.

2033
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:51,479
Speaker 1: See what I mean. Also, the Kitlyn Vieira Macy chefs

2034
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 1: On fight, now, granted they could just move it up awight,

2035
01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:56,880
Speaker 1: they moved it to forty five, but it looked like

2036
01:37:57,000 --> 01:37:59,840
Speaker 1: they were headed for for not making weight either.

2037
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:02,760
Speaker 5: I'm thinking it was on Ketland's end only because she

2038
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:05,000
Speaker 5: wig in at one forty six and Macy wade in

2039
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 5: at one.

2040
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:07,439
Speaker 1: Fine, fair enough. I'm just saying like they still had

2041
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:11,599
Speaker 1: to accommodate them. Yeah, by doing this, whereas they you're like, oh,

2042
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 1: why couldn't they move the fight between Blanchefield and Barbara

2043
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:17,560
Speaker 1: up to thirty five? Well, because they're auditioning for a

2044
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:20,479
Speaker 1: fucking title shot. You gotta make the weight.

2045
01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:23,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta make the wait people, Okay, you gotta

2046
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:25,280
Speaker 3: pass the drug test and make the weave.

2047
01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:29,240
Speaker 1: Listen, get the diarrhea that I have. You're gonna make weight.

2048
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:31,599
Speaker 3: I mean, you reveal, Luke, I don't know if you're

2049
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:34,160
Speaker 3: against me, you know, bringing this news to the forefront.

2050
01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:40,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, don't don't don't don't don't. Yeah, Hey, some

2051
01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:41,639
Speaker 1: things I tell you in confidence.

2052
01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:42,719
Speaker 11: Wow.

2053
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 3: Even Luke Thomas has limits of personal sharing. Wow. Okay,

2054
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 3: all right, let me let me spoiler alert. It was

2055
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 3: gross people, Thank you very much, But we love Luke

2056
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:54,040
Speaker 3: and his insides. Luke, those are our topics here. We're

2057
01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:56,720
Speaker 3: gonna transition to our fun. Well they could be fun,

2058
01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 3: they could be damning if we screwed up. These are

2059
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 3: our fans, and you can enter the sweepstakes of showing

2060
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:05,160
Speaker 3: up in our fans segments by emailing the show at

2061
01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:08,640
Speaker 3: Morning Combat at gmail dot com. Tell Mikey we said, Hi,

2062
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 3: do not show him pictures of your tripod. Thank you

2063
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 3: very much. We will start off with a segment that

2064
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:17,439
Speaker 3: puts us on trial. Hey, we speak into a microphone

2065
01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:20,639
Speaker 3: a lot. Sometimes we say bullshit. Sometimes we're just dead wrong.

2066
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:23,960
Speaker 1: Then wrong?

2067
01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:30,439
Speaker 3: Whose voice is that? For the record, I always ask

2068
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:30,960
Speaker 3: that who is that?

2069
01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:33,439
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm thinking it's Ai. I really don't know.

2070
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 1: All right, all right, oh it is a I shouldn't

2071
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:38,840
Speaker 1: have any AI intros unless you look.

2072
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:40,639
Speaker 3: What do you think about elon musk on ketamine?

2073
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:41,080
Speaker 7: All right?

2074
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:45,639
Speaker 1: Was the beginning of his problems? I mean that motherfucker

2075
01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:46,759
Speaker 1: was doped?

2076
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:49,800
Speaker 3: All right? Both Dave and Caine wrote in I'm not

2077
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:51,880
Speaker 3: sure who's this one was? Maybe Dave? He says, BC,

2078
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:55,360
Speaker 3: you are dead wrong. During the over under segment last Friday,

2079
01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:59,559
Speaker 3: when talking about PFL moving the Africa event, you said

2080
01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:03,960
Speaker 3: it was the same day as Usik Dubois one. How

2081
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:07,160
Speaker 3: many gummies were in your tummy? This would be Usik

2082
01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:11,360
Speaker 3: versus Dubois two. Love the show, but get this shit right,

2083
01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 3: all right? If I said one, I will take the

2084
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:15,720
Speaker 3: l and let me think back. Yeah, there was a

2085
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:17,840
Speaker 3: there was a decent amount of gummies in might tummy

2086
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:19,920
Speaker 3: during that episode, just so you know, all right, there

2087
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 3: we go. Look I have taken the l Thank you

2088
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:26,160
Speaker 3: all right, Sorry, okay, let's hear from Casey, he says,

2089
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:28,920
Speaker 3: bonjour donks. On the May nineteenth episode, at about the

2090
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 3: two hour eleven minute mark, BC asks LT what his

2091
01:40:33,479 --> 01:40:36,639
Speaker 3: thoughts are on the Great Tim Bradley's remarks that Teo

2092
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:41,320
Speaker 3: Femo was quote too athletic for boots sentence. LT rightfully

2093
01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:44,280
Speaker 3: says that he doesn't quote by that, but you are

2094
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:47,559
Speaker 3: both dead wrong. If BC actually listened to the Tim

2095
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:50,760
Speaker 3: Bradley instead of letting his mind wander to thoughts of

2096
01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:53,599
Speaker 3: straweights and gas station hot dogs, he would have heard

2097
01:40:53,640 --> 01:41:00,879
Speaker 3: Bradley say the quote too most athletic, not too too athletic. Honestly,

2098
01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:03,200
Speaker 3: I don't blame BC too much, as I imagine he's

2099
01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:06,200
Speaker 3: left many of brain cells in the factory town he

2100
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:10,160
Speaker 3: came from. True, but shame on you, Luke Mma, journalism's

2101
01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:13,439
Speaker 3: greatest spelling bee Champ should do a better job of

2102
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:16,800
Speaker 3: keeping your boy in line. All jokes aside, Love you guys,

2103
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:20,200
Speaker 3: keep up the great work. Also, bring back high Court,

2104
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:23,080
Speaker 3: says Casey. So Luke I guess I have to take

2105
01:41:23,080 --> 01:41:25,799
Speaker 3: the l because I wasn't listening close enough to Tim Bradley.

2106
01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:29,320
Speaker 3: So I'm for to today. But you want to address

2107
01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:31,840
Speaker 3: this gentleman's offer of us bringing back high Court.

2108
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Speaker 1: I'd love to bring back high Court. I never wanted

2109
01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:36,599
Speaker 1: to go away. We just didn't and we never flushed

2110
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Speaker 1: out the concept.

2111
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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, we got to get a studio that

2112
01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:42,760
Speaker 3: can play that game too, Right, we could just.

2113
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Speaker 1: Do High Court on you know what, like one of

2114
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:46,559
Speaker 1: these days when there's like nothing going on, and instead

2115
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:47,800
Speaker 1: of doing a Friday show, we can just do a

2116
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:50,599
Speaker 1: morning combat, you know, Friday High Court.

2117
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Speaker 3: With the dishonorable Chuck Mindenhole. Or should we sub Ken

2118
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:58,120
Speaker 3: our sound guy in there, who's like so chemically advanced Luke.

2119
01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:01,840
Speaker 1: I mean, who's who he more chemically advanced? Elon Musk

2120
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Speaker 1: or Ken in the back? I honestly, So it's it's

2121
01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:04,680
Speaker 1: a competition.

2122
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:06,840
Speaker 3: I love when we come in and Ken's Ken's wearing

2123
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:10,439
Speaker 3: the Winter Parker with like the fur around the head piece. Yeah,

2124
01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:13,400
Speaker 3: that guy's the best. All right, Uh, let's go to

2125
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:14,400
Speaker 3: a final day.

2126
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:16,840
Speaker 1: The deer come into studio with a bigger drink he

2127
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:18,120
Speaker 1: could spill all over the keyboard.

2128
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:20,960
Speaker 3: I wonder dear's the best uh luke. Our final one

2129
01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:22,400
Speaker 3: comes from Dazz.

2130
01:42:22,439 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 1: Right, Dazz back up on that ass and give these

2131
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:26,920
Speaker 1: motherfuckers a blast from the past.

2132
01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:32,759
Speaker 3: Aloha donk, says Daz on Friday's episode after losing MK Jeopardy,

2133
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:38,080
Speaker 3: BC announces he will have to quote pay the Piper Wednesday,

2134
01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:41,880
Speaker 3: July fourth for the pregame preview episode with Aaron Bronsteader

2135
01:42:42,160 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 3: by wearing a shirt of LT's choosing. Hey BC, If

2136
01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:47,840
Speaker 3: MK fans tune in on July fourth, they will have

2137
01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:50,760
Speaker 3: missed this episode by a month, as the episode is

2138
01:42:50,840 --> 01:42:55,439
Speaker 3: on Wednesday, June four, not July fourth, which is a

2139
01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:59,240
Speaker 3: Friday this year. Always grateful for the entertaining content. Mahallow.

2140
01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:02,200
Speaker 3: It's daz Luke. That's over three And by the way,

2141
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:05,439
Speaker 3: all three of those segments, those those losses were pulled

2142
01:43:05,479 --> 01:43:08,280
Speaker 3: at the end of the show when the delton h

2143
01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:11,479
Speaker 3: really kick in, So you know it is what it is, right.

2144
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:17,519
Speaker 1: I'll also say this, you know, listen the listeners, the viewers,

2145
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:20,759
Speaker 1: they're like the refs. Sometimes they call tiki tak fouls,

2146
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:23,439
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Sometimes sometimes they let sometimes

2147
01:43:23,479 --> 01:43:25,400
Speaker 1: they let the boys play. Sometimes they call the fowls

2148
01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:27,120
Speaker 1: a little aggressively. You know, it's one of those ones

2149
01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:28,920
Speaker 1: that they call them a little aggressively, Luke.

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01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:31,320
Speaker 3: Speaking of June fourth pregame preview, will you have a

2151
01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:32,200
Speaker 3: shirt for me to wear?

2152
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:32,960
Speaker 1: I will?

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01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:33,680
Speaker 7: Oh.

2154
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:36,080
Speaker 1: I've talked to Long Island Luke about it, so he

2155
01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:37,240
Speaker 1: knows about it as well.

2156
01:43:37,760 --> 01:43:40,000
Speaker 3: Are you having one created or are.

2157
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:41,920
Speaker 1: You I'm having one created? Yes?

2158
01:43:43,479 --> 01:43:45,040
Speaker 3: Will it involve abortion? Rock?

2159
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:48,280
Speaker 1: Will it involve abortion Rock?

2160
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:49,320
Speaker 7: No?

2161
01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:50,320
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so.

2162
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:52,599
Speaker 3: Okay, hopefully it'll involve strow.

2163
01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:54,679
Speaker 1: Maybe abortion, but maybe not abortion.

2164
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:55,920
Speaker 3: No no, no no no no no no no no

2165
01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:58,479
Speaker 3: no no no all right those are dead wrongs and

2166
01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:00,920
Speaker 3: I really took it on the on the A there

2167
01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 3: we have a final fan segment that is you sending

2168
01:44:04,439 --> 01:44:07,439
Speaker 3: in your pictures of your significant others in tight T

2169
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:11,400
Speaker 3: shirts or maybe your artwork. This one's called fan submissions.

2170
01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:15,440
Speaker 1: You've got mail feures.

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01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:20,519
Speaker 3: Shout out to Gaffney Jim Pierre for voicing that Luke

2172
01:44:20,560 --> 01:44:24,479
Speaker 3: real quick on the new DMS from Donk's intro that

2173
01:44:24,720 --> 01:44:29,320
Speaker 3: doesn't have the the you know, the animal getting milked.

2174
01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 3: The fans aggressively want that back. Your thoughts. No, see

2175
01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:39,040
Speaker 3: that your thoughts too. Okay, what are we doing here?

2176
01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:42,400
Speaker 1: I said from the start we shouldn't have got rid

2177
01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:43,519
Speaker 1: of it. I think we need it back.

2178
01:44:46,439 --> 01:44:47,559
Speaker 3: All right, We'll see what I mean.

2179
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:49,080
Speaker 1: If they really want to bring it back, we can

2180
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:50,240
Speaker 1: bring it back. I just hate it.

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01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:52,479
Speaker 3: It is gross. It is really gross. But it's probably

2182
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:54,880
Speaker 3: like the fifteenth most grossest thing that happens on this

2183
01:44:54,920 --> 01:44:55,639
Speaker 3: show week to week.

2184
01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:58,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's it's a you know, I mean, yeah,

2185
01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:01,920
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's if the fans really want it,

2186
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 1: we can bring it back. I'll put it.

2187
01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:04,720
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, but if the fans really want me

2188
01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:06,840
Speaker 3: to talk more directly about your bottles, we have to

2189
01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:07,960
Speaker 3: draw the line. We have to.

2190
01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:10,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had enough of that. I'm gonna have to

2191
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:11,080
Speaker 1: shoot after this show, by.

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01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:14,200
Speaker 3: The that would be a okay. Let's go to our

2193
01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:17,560
Speaker 3: first fansom from Jeff. He says, my first leave of

2194
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 3: tattoos all water themed animals. The octopus choking. The shark

2195
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:29,599
Speaker 3: represents ilia choking Islam. Luke Thomas rate that tat, dude.

2196
01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:33,720
Speaker 1: That's the The scales on the bicep look pretty good.

2197
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:35,479
Speaker 1: The octopus, it's hard to tell. Them this far out.

2198
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:39,240
Speaker 1: But because this is a healed tattoo, but it looks

2199
01:45:39,240 --> 01:45:39,680
Speaker 1: pretty good.

2200
01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:41,720
Speaker 3: Now do you think that guy knows where the gym

2201
01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:42,360
Speaker 3: is too?

2202
01:45:43,720 --> 01:45:46,640
Speaker 1: May have seen his way inside the bicep for you know,

2203
01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:48,080
Speaker 1: curl machine A couple of times.

2204
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:49,760
Speaker 3: Good deltoid definition there.

2205
01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:51,800
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean you want to bang this guy?

2206
01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:55,800
Speaker 3: Well maybe his significant other, Luke. I haven't scouted it

2207
01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:57,200
Speaker 3: close enough yet. All right, there we go.

2208
01:45:57,520 --> 01:45:59,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna have Bec's gonna make a secondary show where

2209
01:45:59,880 --> 01:46:03,240
Speaker 1: he just bangs the wives of girlfriends or listeners.

2210
01:46:05,439 --> 01:46:08,639
Speaker 3: Oh wow, uh, cuck versus buck, come in your way.

2211
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:11,600
Speaker 3: This one's from Nathan, he says, what is it?

2212
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:12,120
Speaker 4: Hoes.

2213
01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:14,760
Speaker 3: Not sure if you'll remember, but I wrote in a

2214
01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:16,960
Speaker 3: while back to tell you that I had just moved

2215
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:19,599
Speaker 3: to d C from the West Coast to start law

2216
01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:21,559
Speaker 3: school at GWU.

2217
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:23,559
Speaker 1: Oh shit, I'm.

2218
01:46:23,439 --> 01:46:26,400
Speaker 3: Writing in again, nearly three years later to let you

2219
01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:29,800
Speaker 3: know that I've managed to overcome my intellectual handicap of

2220
01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:32,719
Speaker 3: being an MMA fan and have completed my law degree

2221
01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:36,960
Speaker 3: repping MK Merch all the while. Later this year I'll

2222
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:40,479
Speaker 3: be moving to NYC to begin my legal career. So

2223
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:43,840
Speaker 3: hit me up when BC inevitably gets caught up for

2224
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:47,080
Speaker 3: public intoxication after one too many whippets in the Penn

2225
01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:50,840
Speaker 3: Station bathroom. I'm incredibly grateful for what you both do.

2226
01:46:51,439 --> 01:46:53,960
Speaker 3: You Donks are the best podcasters and analysts in the game,

2227
01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:57,800
Speaker 3: and even greater guys never met him technical difficulties In all,

2228
01:46:57,960 --> 01:47:00,800
Speaker 3: nobody does it like y'all, Luke. This is Nathan and

2229
01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:03,280
Speaker 3: he could very well turn into our legal council if

2230
01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:05,040
Speaker 3: MK falls into some issues moving.

2231
01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:08,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, we might need that. That's cool, man. I'm not

2232
01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:10,519
Speaker 1: over on this part of town very often, so I

2233
01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:12,799
Speaker 1: don't get by the law school all that all that regularly.

2234
01:47:12,920 --> 01:47:16,880
Speaker 1: But uh, this is definitely interesting to see and I

2235
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:20,000
Speaker 1: can congratulations on making it through law school and uh,

2236
01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:23,160
Speaker 1: just in time for the country to turn into a dictatorship.

2237
01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:26,120
Speaker 3: Really well done, Nathan. Reach out to us when you

2238
01:47:26,200 --> 01:47:28,720
Speaker 3: get into there to NYC brother, good luck to you.

2239
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:32,320
Speaker 3: Appreciate you wrapping us in that regard. And also we

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01:47:32,439 --> 01:47:33,960
Speaker 3: may have to call you here. We'll see what happens.

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01:47:34,640 --> 01:47:37,439
Speaker 3: We have a one from Joe. He says, BC and

2242
01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:41,360
Speaker 3: Reggie Jackson could have some fun behind Arby's with these.

2243
01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:43,280
Speaker 10: Wow.

2244
01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:52,360
Speaker 3: Wow, do you think I think Reggie has the personality

2245
01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:53,960
Speaker 3: where he would definitely get high.

2246
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:57,639
Speaker 1: Get high. Reggie's got the personality that he would wait

2247
01:47:57,720 --> 01:48:00,320
Speaker 1: in the back of a bigley wiggly parking for his

2248
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:02,200
Speaker 1: dealer to show up. Circing nineteen eighty nine.

2249
01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:04,759
Speaker 3: You should see that dude on katnapp. He is wild.

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01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, that's hilarious, unbelievable.

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01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:10,400
Speaker 3: Great stuff there, Joe. Here comes Scott with a photo.

2252
01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:16,400
Speaker 3: He says, hastag hashtag them K Goat is back, the

2253
01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:24,160
Speaker 3: MK go the MK Goat is back. Yes, oh my god, John,

2254
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:27,320
Speaker 3: please tell me more about your thirties, cause yeah, this

2255
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:30,080
Speaker 3: is great. Look did you see the aspinall and Craig

2256
01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:32,080
Speaker 3: Jones video making fun of this?

2257
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:34,680
Speaker 1: I did? I did? And then he says it's a

2258
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:36,080
Speaker 1: Jones thing, you know what I mean?

2259
01:48:36,360 --> 01:48:37,640
Speaker 3: Can you go back to that picture? I want to

2260
01:48:37,640 --> 01:48:38,599
Speaker 3: see it one more time please.

2261
01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:41,200
Speaker 1: That is so good. It's a little it's a little disturbing,

2262
01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:43,080
Speaker 1: if I can be honest with you, But it is funny.

2263
01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:44,120
Speaker 1: It's quite funny.

2264
01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:48,720
Speaker 3: Finally we have a man who has really used this

2265
01:48:49,080 --> 01:48:52,080
Speaker 3: platform to show us his art on a regular basis.

2266
01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:54,840
Speaker 3: He also supports us on our YouTube channels. It's the

2267
01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 3: great Alan W. Who's got a few photos for us.

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01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 3: The first one is called aliens.

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01:49:02,920 --> 01:49:04,479
Speaker 1: Okay, is this because no?

2270
01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 10: Yes?

2271
01:49:05,160 --> 01:49:06,639
Speaker 1: Is this because I was talking about the movie?

2272
01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:07,080
Speaker 3: Yes?

2273
01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:08,120
Speaker 1: It is, Yes, it is.

2274
01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:09,240
Speaker 3: That is all right?

2275
01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:11,760
Speaker 1: This is interesting. Donculus is a funny name. I'm with it.

2276
01:49:11,880 --> 01:49:12,560
Speaker 1: I'm with it.

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01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:15,800
Speaker 3: That's a creepy looking spider crab thing on our face, Luke.

2278
01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:17,200
Speaker 1: Have you not seen alien?

2279
01:49:18,160 --> 01:49:19,479
Speaker 3: Not a while, not a long time.

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01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:23,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's that's that's how the alien produces other aliens?

2281
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:26,960
Speaker 3: Disgusting, all right. He has another one called vaping is

2282
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:30,519
Speaker 3: for closers. Oh oh, can we get that on a shirt?

2283
01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:32,000
Speaker 3: Can we hook up this design?

2284
01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:32,360
Speaker 4: Please?

2285
01:49:32,479 --> 01:49:35,080
Speaker 3: Where's Long Island? Luke? You know something about it?

2286
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:37,439
Speaker 1: I'm right here. Maybe maybe we could do something about that.

2287
01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:38,639
Speaker 1: That is sick.

2288
01:49:39,120 --> 01:49:41,120
Speaker 3: I swear if you put that shirt out tomorrow, it

2289
01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:41,680
Speaker 3: sells out.

2290
01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:44,960
Speaker 1: I swear that is what is sick. Oh hell yeah,

2291
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:45,479
Speaker 1: I love that.

2292
01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 3: Also from Allan w. This is front front lawn Gym.

2293
01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:54,559
Speaker 1: Front yard ly shit balls Wow.

2294
01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:59,880
Speaker 3: Established nineteen seventy nine in India. Luke Luke's front Yard Gymnasium.

2295
01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:00,679
Speaker 4: Wow.

2296
01:50:01,360 --> 01:50:05,640
Speaker 1: That's actually not too dissimilar from how it looks actually.

2297
01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:07,720
Speaker 3: With the DC flag in the background and you are.

2298
01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:11,160
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a little bit more artistic license being

2299
01:50:11,200 --> 01:50:11,680
Speaker 1: taken there.

2300
01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:13,880
Speaker 3: But uh, you ain't lifting that much weight?

2301
01:50:14,920 --> 01:50:15,080
Speaker 6: Uh?

2302
01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:18,200
Speaker 1: Sure I have if it's five hundred pounds. Of course.

2303
01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:21,120
Speaker 3: Are you using Jose Aldo technique or more like Phil

2304
01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:22,400
Speaker 3: Simms pull up technique?

2305
01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:25,160
Speaker 1: Well, both of those are shit technique or.

2306
01:50:25,240 --> 01:50:29,160
Speaker 3: Shop bench technique, Luke. Like what shob on the bench?

2307
01:50:30,760 --> 01:50:33,400
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like half reps, like three quarter reps.

2308
01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:35,680
Speaker 3: With your ass and stomach in the air.

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01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:40,679
Speaker 1: Your butt can come off the air upon certain parts

2310
01:50:40,720 --> 01:50:42,920
Speaker 1: of it, just not just not all the time.

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01:50:43,400 --> 01:50:46,040
Speaker 3: Well, Luke, you're saying Texas. This ain't no hodown. But

2312
01:50:46,160 --> 01:50:48,760
Speaker 3: the shops are we doing? I'm just telling you they moved.

2313
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:49,799
Speaker 4: They moved to Texas.

2314
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:53,719
Speaker 3: Luke, congratulations, all right, Oh my god, shout out to BASTI.

2315
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:56,559
Speaker 3: All right, also from Alan w we have one more.

2316
01:50:56,560 --> 01:50:57,200
Speaker 4: It says lt.

2317
01:50:57,479 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 3: Keeping BC on the right track.

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01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:02,320
Speaker 1: My first hot dog. Excuse me, my hot dog has

2319
01:51:02,360 --> 01:51:05,400
Speaker 1: a first name. It's O sc bop. You have a

2320
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:09,240
Speaker 1: fatty liver bitch. I don't get what. I don't get

2321
01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:10,599
Speaker 1: what you were trying to spell though.

2322
01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, O s c a ar. You know

2323
01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:16,400
Speaker 3: that song, Luke from the from the.

2324
01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:19,760
Speaker 1: Ad is don't. I definitely don't, dude.

2325
01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:22,240
Speaker 3: That's like right on the art I'm making us look

2326
01:51:22,479 --> 01:51:24,280
Speaker 3: like ourselves. I mean, look at me with the just

2327
01:51:24,360 --> 01:51:25,760
Speaker 3: for men die job right there.

2328
01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:28,400
Speaker 1: And also his is pretty accurate of me too, where

2329
01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:30,920
Speaker 1: I've got the only hair that's got color left on

2330
01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:33,080
Speaker 1: my faces, my eyebrows and mustache.

2331
01:51:33,320 --> 01:51:36,639
Speaker 3: Yes, a lot of people still wondering if the drapes

2332
01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:39,439
Speaker 3: matched the carpet. Luke right, you know it's really gross,

2333
01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:42,200
Speaker 3: but uh that was this way?

2334
01:51:42,240 --> 01:51:44,040
Speaker 1: I have white hairs all over my body? Does that

2335
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:44,760
Speaker 1: answer your question?

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01:51:45,880 --> 01:51:49,680
Speaker 3: Hopefully not? Also, Ellen w thank you for your submissions.

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Speaker 3: That was great. Thank you folks for fanning them in.

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Speaker 3: You can also reach us at Morning Combat at gmail Dove.

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Speaker 1: Those were great.

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Speaker 3: Those are really well done fansob make fan subs great again.

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Speaker 3: You just did. Thank you very much. We appreciate that

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Speaker 3: to all of you. We appreciate all of you for

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01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:05,880
Speaker 3: tuning in today. Look, we just have this ability to

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01:52:05,920 --> 01:52:09,160
Speaker 3: stretch absolute bullshit into two hours of fine content if

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Speaker 3: you don't mind.

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01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:13,280
Speaker 1: It takes it takes years of broadcasting to figure out

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Speaker 1: how to take absolute nothing and turn it into more

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Speaker 1: of nothing.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot like Billy Hoe from White Man Can

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Speaker 3: Jump Right. It's hard goddamn work making something this pity.

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Speaker 1: Looks so yeah, right, So what are you doing this weekend?

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01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:34,439
Speaker 3: I will be calling fights Saturday night, not a prime

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Speaker 3: video from the uh yeah, from the Michelo Vultra Arena.

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Speaker 1: So that's what. That's Mandalay Bay.

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01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:45,519
Speaker 3: That is Mandalay Bay. And also also I believe Carmel

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01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:47,160
Speaker 3: Moton is also on this card. I don't know if

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01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:50,200
Speaker 3: it's televised, but Floyd Mayweather's big prospect is also.

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01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:53,360
Speaker 1: Now do they got you doing triple duty like normal?

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01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:56,000
Speaker 3: I won't be scoring the fights this time, but I

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01:52:56,040 --> 01:52:59,560
Speaker 3: will be doing color commentary and in ring interviews, so

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Speaker 3: let's get fired up, all right?

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Speaker 1: And prelim card or not doing prelim card.

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Speaker 3: No prelim card. It will be moral Ronello, Abner, Marris,

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Speaker 3: myself in Friend of the Program. Ray Flores will be

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Speaker 3: handling reporting.

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Speaker 1: So nice shot. So Ray is he still doing one?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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01:53:13,720 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 3: I'll ask him, I'll see him.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't recall seeing him there recently, but I've not

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Speaker 1: been paying close attentions. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know He hosted the press conference and

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01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:23,960
Speaker 3: stuff this week for PBC. So shout out to Ray.

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01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:25,600
Speaker 3: His brother has been doing a great job in his

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Speaker 3: absence as well.

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01:53:26,520 --> 01:53:27,200
Speaker 1: Shout out for sure.

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01:53:27,720 --> 01:53:32,479
Speaker 3: Yeah there you go. Shout out a PM Eastern Prime

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01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:35,840
Speaker 3: video Saturday night. Luke Thomas, what do you have to

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01:53:35,880 --> 01:53:39,200
Speaker 3: tell the people? An encouraging message, something inspiring.

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01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:46,320
Speaker 1: I took tukes and we got a new library card.

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01:53:46,479 --> 01:53:46,920
Speaker 1: How about that?

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01:53:47,160 --> 01:53:49,080
Speaker 3: It looks like a pack of menthols. Okay, nice?

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01:53:49,200 --> 01:53:52,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a library card. She loves the library.

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01:53:52,439 --> 01:53:56,840
Speaker 1: We like going to the now on Espanol English. Okay, yeah,

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01:53:56,880 --> 01:53:59,000
Speaker 1: I mean she gets plenty of that with other folks.

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01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:01,040
Speaker 1: And for me, what am I gonna go win a

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01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:02,439
Speaker 1: teacher Spanish? My Spanish blows.

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01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:05,720
Speaker 3: You ain't teaching nothing. What about Uncle Pepe? He's still

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01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:06,320
Speaker 3: laying pipe.

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01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:11,559
Speaker 1: He's currently traveling, so I'm not even sure where he's

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01:54:11,600 --> 01:54:12,040
Speaker 1: at right now.

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01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:14,960
Speaker 3: Would you say he's just a jigglow everywhere he goes?

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01:54:15,080 --> 01:54:18,439
Speaker 1: Luke? No, I'm told old that there was a significant other.

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01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:19,160
Speaker 1: So we'll see.

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01:54:19,400 --> 01:54:22,600
Speaker 3: Oh wow, we got it. You know we can we

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01:54:22,680 --> 01:54:23,719
Speaker 3: run picks on the show.

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01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:27,880
Speaker 1: And just no, absolutely not, you horrible human? What is

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01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:28,880
Speaker 1: that shirt you're wearing.

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Speaker 3: It's an old pro wrestling tag team, the Vaude Villains

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01:54:33,400 --> 01:54:36,160
Speaker 3: Luke from NXT back in the mid twenty ten.

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01:54:36,280 --> 01:54:38,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, just like Vaudeville.

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01:54:39,240 --> 01:54:39,440
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:41,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a deep cut. It's a real pro

2404
01:54:41,480 --> 01:54:43,080
Speaker 3: wrestling deep cut. You know. It's like one of those

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01:54:43,120 --> 01:54:45,000
Speaker 3: three ninety nine T shirts you get after the people

2406
01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:47,560
Speaker 3: have been cut from the organization. It's like eighty percent

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01:54:47,640 --> 01:54:49,520
Speaker 3: off on the website. That's where I live. That's where

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01:54:49,520 --> 01:54:49,800
Speaker 3: I live.

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Speaker 6: Okay.

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01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:53,960
Speaker 3: I'm also, by the way, quite manly.

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01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:57,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, you know, under certain conceptions

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01:54:57,080 --> 01:54:59,040
Speaker 1: of it. Yes, all right, all right?

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01:54:59,400 --> 01:54:59,880
Speaker 7: Was that long?

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01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:00,360
Speaker 10: Luke?

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01:55:00,360 --> 01:55:02,120
Speaker 1: If he's going to be Boyfriend of the Year again

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01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:03,880
Speaker 1: this Saturday.

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01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:06,520
Speaker 5: Boyfriend of the Year by providing for this family by

2418
01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:10,120
Speaker 5: streaming on Saturday night, you're damn right. Also, want to

2419
01:55:10,160 --> 01:55:13,600
Speaker 5: remind the folks tune in Monday's episode eleven am, Big

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01:55:14,080 --> 01:55:15,080
Speaker 5: Merch announcement.

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01:55:15,160 --> 01:55:17,000
Speaker 1: That's right down, that's right.

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01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 3: Wow, all right, fired up? What a lie. Well, let's go,

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01:55:21,000 --> 01:55:22,400
Speaker 3: let's live our best lives this year.

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01:55:22,640 --> 01:55:24,120
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this before we go. What

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01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:26,640
Speaker 1: what's your travel plan for the way back? Are you

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01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:29,640
Speaker 1: getting a hotel No, we're not going on Monday.

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01:55:29,640 --> 01:55:30,440
Speaker 3: We're going on Wednesday.

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01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:33,440
Speaker 1: Well, oh, that's right, you're at home. It's right. I'm sorry?

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01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:33,880
Speaker 1: What am I saying?

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01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:38,240
Speaker 3: Episode Monday Final reminder folks, Wednesday, eleven am Eastern at

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01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:41,760
Speaker 3: Morning Combat on YouTube. It's pregame preview UFC three one six,

2432
01:55:42,200 --> 01:55:45,040
Speaker 3: brought to you by Quervo. What are you expecting from

2433
01:55:45,160 --> 01:55:50,960
Speaker 3: uh Bronsta here? Will he shoot? Will he shoot with us?

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01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:54,560
Speaker 1: Andrew Dice, Clay Machismo, That's what I'm expecting.

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01:55:54,600 --> 01:55:55,160
Speaker 3: Will he shoot?

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01:55:55,800 --> 01:55:59,520
Speaker 1: We're shooters. That's a question only he can answer. Okay, okay,

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01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:03,240
Speaker 1: but if he doesn't, we're gonna have his ass. So

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01:56:03,400 --> 01:56:03,960
Speaker 1: let's say that.

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01:56:04,160 --> 01:56:07,160
Speaker 3: Wow. Okay, well I'll let that man's ass be if

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01:56:07,480 --> 01:56:09,360
Speaker 3: you know, if that's just fine with me. Okay, that's

2441
01:56:09,400 --> 01:56:10,000
Speaker 3: how I roll.

2442
01:56:10,040 --> 01:56:12,240
Speaker 1: All right, I have to carry mine to the camoda

2443
01:56:12,280 --> 01:56:15,160
Speaker 1: before I have problems in my dungry. I'm putting the

2444
01:56:15,280 --> 01:56:16,200
Speaker 1: dung and dungarries.

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01:56:16,640 --> 01:56:18,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna have to change those again this morning.

2446
01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:21,920
Speaker 3: All right, enough? They follow us below? Thank you, like subscribe,

2447
01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:24,800
Speaker 3: tell a friend whatever. Either way, we're still gonna be here, guys.

2448
01:56:24,840 --> 01:56:27,560
Speaker 3: We're still coming with this thing. Okay, you can't stop it,

2449
01:56:28,280 --> 01:56:30,800
Speaker 3: and if you do, we're gonna call Nathan to be

2450
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:33,800
Speaker 3: our lawyer for Long Island. Luke for Luke Thomas, your

2451
01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:38,440
Speaker 3: boy BC. Have a great weekend, enjoy the fights. They

2452
01:56:38,480 --> 01:56:40,360
Speaker 3: got chicks in the main event. Two chicks at one time.

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01:56:40,360 --> 01:56:42,760
Speaker 3: It's gonna be great. Saturday night. Watch me on Prime

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01:56:42,840 --> 01:56:45,880
Speaker 3: Video at a pm Eastern on Saturday. We are out

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01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:48,440
Speaker 3: of here. All the Smoke Fight is headed to the

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01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:49,080
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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01:56:49,760 --> 01:56:52,920
Speaker 12: This year's International Boxing Hall of Fame Induction weekend in

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01:56:53,080 --> 01:56:57,280
Speaker 12: boxing's hometown Canna Stodea, New York. It takes place on Thursday,

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01:56:57,440 --> 01:57:00,320
Speaker 12: June fifth through Sunday June eighth, ending with an annual

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01:57:00,520 --> 01:57:03,600
Speaker 12: ceremony immortalizing boxing's all time greats.

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Speaker 11: The International Boxing Hall of Fame are hosting fan events

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Speaker 11: and experiences all weekend long. On Friday night, June sixth,

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Speaker 11: Sleted Promotion will present a Terrific Fight car in association

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01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:16,760
Speaker 11: with All the Smoke Fight Live on the Zone from

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Speaker 11: the Turningstone Resort Casino and Ramona, New York, featuring USBA

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01:57:21,160 --> 01:57:25,680
Speaker 11: Heavyweight Champion Brandon Moore defending his title against undefeated prospect

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Speaker 11: Stanley right in the main event, plus a stack undercard

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01:57:29,120 --> 01:57:33,600
Speaker 11: featuring world champion Franchion Foods Dessern and rising prospects JJ

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01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:35,280
Speaker 11: Pagan and Devel Smith.

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01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:37,400
Speaker 12: Sounds to me we're gonna have a great fight night,

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01:57:37,440 --> 01:57:40,680
Speaker 12: and of course Sunday is ceremony to induct the class

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Speaker 12: of twenty twenty five legends like many pac Man Pak

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01:57:43,680 --> 01:57:47,720
Speaker 12: Yao Michael, second to none in Pasmanian Devil Vinnie Paz.

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Speaker 11: Joined all the Smoke, Fight and Salted Promotion at Turning

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Speaker 11: Stone Resort Casino for this year's International Boxing Hall of

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Speaker 11: Fame Induction weekend.

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Speaker 3: Hey listen.

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01:57:56,040 --> 01:57:59,880
Speaker 12: Visit Turningstone dot com for accommodations and tickets to Friday's fight.

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01:58:00,360 --> 01:58:03,440
Speaker 12: Visit I B h o F dot com for the

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Speaker 12: full Induction weekend schedule.

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Speaker 2: M HM