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Speaker 1: All that is next on a brand new edition of

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Speaker 2: Welcome to This League Uncut in the world.

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Speaker 1: Of twenty four hour NBA news.

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Speaker 2: This's you, Lou Chris Haynes. It's so time, Mark Stein,

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Speaker 2: it's some time. This League Uncut is underway and on fire.

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Speaker 2: This should be a good one.

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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Welcome into the latest edition of This League Uncut.

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Speaker 1: Mark Stein and Chris Haynes back together. It is the

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Speaker 1: waning hours of Cinco de Mayo. By the time this

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Speaker 1: round of the NBA Playoffs finally complete. We are fully

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Speaker 1: onto the second round. Chris Haynes. After some arduous Sinko

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Speaker 1: Game one of the Nixon Pacers, renewing nineteen nineties hostilities.

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Speaker 1: That is Monday night. I will be covering at least

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Speaker 1: but man, this weekend was absolutely dominated by two NBA

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Speaker 1: first of all, great to be back with you. Producer

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Speaker 3: No, actually going home for three and four?

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Speaker 1: No more Miami games, but New York ain't a bad fallback.

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Speaker 3: New York is my favorite, my favorite city.

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Speaker 3: I have an explanation I have to explain to dude,

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Speaker 3: So if you did go back into archives, Stein and Ryan,

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Speaker 3: No Po Pope popa, yes, Popeyes, Papa, get it right right,

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Speaker 3: So he's definitely ecstatic that I that I touched down

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Speaker 3: He just looked at me and hurry up and walked away.

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Speaker 1: five seasons. Would the Sixers try to undo that very

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Speaker 1: costly decision by trading for Jimmy Butler, And honestly, I can.

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Speaker 1: I think I can talk myself into the idea that

435
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Speaker 1: Butler might be an even better fit than a Paul

436
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Speaker 1: George because he and Embiid already have such a great relationship,

437
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 1: and they already know that they can play together. And

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Speaker 1: I remember Darryl Moury saying that they really want to

439
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: make sure that whoever comes in is that third star

440
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: really does have some playmaking ability. I don't know. I mean,

441
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: Paul George is obviously a very talented, very versatile player.

442
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Speaker 1: But I am intrigued by the idea of Philly trying

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Speaker 1: to make a trade run at Jimmy Butler again. The

444
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: Heat might turn around and say, no, we're not interested,

445
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Speaker 1: We're extending Jimmy. We're gonna find a way to extend

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00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler. And try to add to the core. But

447
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: that's one we got to keep an eye on. And

448
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: you know again, there are so many fascinating situations with

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00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 1: I mean, these are when you look at it with

450
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: the starting with the play in tournament, these twelve teams

451
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: have all begun their off seasons. The Warriors, the Kings,

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Speaker 1: the Bulls, the Hawks in the West, Pelicans, Lakers, Suns,

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Speaker 1: Clippers in the East, Heat six Bucks, Magic, I mean again,

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Speaker 1: Golden State, Lakers, Sons, Clippers, Heat Sixers, Bucks. These are

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Speaker 1: all marquee teams. These are teams that Vegas loves to

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Speaker 1: tell us had title possibilities. And I think, you know again,

457
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Speaker 1: Philly has the financial flexibility to really make some moves

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Speaker 1: in the offseason. For several of those other teams I named,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lot tougher. And let me use

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Speaker 1: that as a way to now pitch the ball back

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Speaker 1: to you, Chris Haynes. You know the Milwaukee Bucks as

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Speaker 1: well as anyone. What happens in Milwaukee. How does Jannis

463
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: Antetokumpo respond to a first round exit? Man, your guy,

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Speaker 1: I was terrified for your guy, Dame Lillard playing in

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Speaker 1: that game six. I am just Honestly, I'm just I'm

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Speaker 1: glad Yiannis did try to play, and I'm just really

467
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: glad that nothing happened to Dane.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was scary. He still, I mean

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00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 3: watched the game. He was nowhere close to eighty five percent,

470
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 3: nowhere close to that, and he was a better decoy

471
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 3: than he was, you know, initially after he sustained that

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Speaker 3: that flare up in that Achilles. But he wanted to go.

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Speaker 3: He wanted to he wanted to buy you know, he

474
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 3: wanted some you know, more time bought, you know, so

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Speaker 3: him and Giannis can return together. That was always the plan.

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Speaker 3: But uh, you know, Gianni's calf just just didn't cooperate

477
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Speaker 3: with him. I do think if there was a Game seven,

478
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 3: I think Gianna's plays I think he was trended in

479
00:29:54,800 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 3: that direction. But luckily for Dame, he got out unscathed

480
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Speaker 3: as far as not damaging that achilles injury any further.

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Speaker 3: So right now, he's going to take some time to rest,

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Speaker 3: get it back, get it back healthy, and then go

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Speaker 3: into the off season. He's I'm telling you right now.

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Speaker 3: You know, obviously I spoke with him, but he's very

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Speaker 3: he's feeling very good. About this summer of having an

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Speaker 3: off season to just know where he's headed. Could remember

487
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Speaker 3: when he requested the trade in July, he didn't know

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00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 3: where he was going to be at, didn't know what

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00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 3: type of system. And so now he knows the team's

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00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 3: going to be on, he knows the coach, he knows

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Speaker 3: what he needs to work on, and I know him

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Speaker 3: and Giannis. They have plans to get together to train

493
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Speaker 3: in the off season. Giannis will go to Portland train

494
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Speaker 3: with Dame a few times. Dame has a Dame bought.

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Speaker 3: Dame had a house. He had a mansion built in

496
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Speaker 3: Portland that he hasn't really been able to live in

497
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Speaker 3: because the house finished. I want to say the house

498
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 3: finished around a month before he was traded, and this

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00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 3: this home stign Dame would send me like update videos

500
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 3: just how things are coming along in the house. He

501
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 3: has this full court basketball gym in there that is

502
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 3: just immaculate with murals all over the walls. And I

503
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 3: haven't gotten a chance to get out there yet, but

504
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 3: Gianni's a Dame. They would get together with dames trainer,

505
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 3: who who was Dame's assistant coach at Weaver State, Phil Beckner,

506
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 3: who's trained a dozen NBA players since Dame it has

507
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 3: been in the league. Michel Bridges to be one of them.

508
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 3: So they're they're looking forward to, they're looking forward to.

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00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: I remember before Dame and Giannis got together, Yannis does

510
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 3: not train with anybody. He doesn't train with, He doesn't

511
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 3: train with with players that are not on his team.

512
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 3: He doesn't do it. But him and Dame were very

513
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 3: hose to getting together last off season to train. This

514
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 3: is before the trade request or anything. This before they

515
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 3: even know that it was on the radar, and uh,

516
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 3: it did never happen. But you know, so Jiannis always

517
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: wanted this to happen, and Phil Beckman was going to

518
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 3: be the instructor during that training session. So they're looking good,

519
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 3: they're they're they're feeling good about themselves, and you know,

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00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 3: I think they got they got another year to figure

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Speaker 3: this out, a year with Doc.

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Speaker 1: I do think there are a lot of rival teams

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00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: out there that are crossing their fingers, crossing their toes

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Speaker 1: that Giannis is going to get fed up and somehow

525
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: try to push his way out. Sure doesn't sound like

526
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Speaker 1: it if he's lining up off season workout plans with mister.

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Speaker 3: Lillard yeah, but I don't know about the rest of

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00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 3: the Bucks roster. That's that's the unknown right there. Obviously

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00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: some changes need to be made, some additions need to

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00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 3: be made. Now the Bucks have a better idea of

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Speaker 3: what they need to surround, what type of talent they

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00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 3: need to surround Damn and Giannis with.

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Speaker 1: We should say, one of the few silver linings, Chris Middleton,

534
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Speaker 1: had a great series. After all the injuries he dealt

535
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: with this season, Middleton was fantastic.

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Speaker 3: He was lights out in the playoffs. They definitely needed

537
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 3: him definitely. So you know, it's remains to be seen.

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00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 3: What's what's going to happen from from on that standpoint,

539
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 3: you know, Pat Bev is will he be back? I

540
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 3: don't know about that. I don't know about that.

541
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Speaker 1: I'm I would say after the week Pat Bev had

542
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: far less than a lock that he will be asked

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00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: to return to Brewt Town. But I guess we shall see.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna throw this out there, probably too ambitious

545
00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: of a request, but when Giannis goes out to Portland,

546
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: I think you should just tell those guys, hey, this

547
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: league uncut would be happy to make a road trip

548
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: to the Pacific Northwest and do a do a four

549
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: man pod sit down with those guys. We would be

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00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: happy to do that.

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00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 3: I'll throw it. I'll throw it out there.

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Speaker 1: Or three if you just got to delete me. If

553
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Speaker 1: they only want to do it with you, I'll I'll

554
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: step aside and let you.

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00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 3: That wouldn't that wouldn't you You're you're not you would

556
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 3: not be the one that would ruin that interview from happening.

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00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 3: I'll produce Ryan, probably produce a Ryan, producer Ryan, because

558
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 3: he has demands. Now he's he's calling shots. Now, he's

559
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 3: telling you Stein you have a when you talk, you

560
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 3: got a minute on the clock. You got exactly sixty seconds,

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Speaker 3: get in and out. So I see prod.

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Speaker 1: The thing is, he's actually right. I just can't help

563
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: myself from abbing.

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Speaker 4: Hey, hey, dame, thanks so much for taking the time. Now,

565
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Speaker 4: I want you to keep it tight because we need

566
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Speaker 4: more Haynes here.

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00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: Hey, you know what's you know what's funny, like producer Ride,

568
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 3: you probably can relate to. It's like, so when I

569
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 3: do my br live sessions, we'll have you know, we'll

570
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 3: have the NBA player come on and you know, ideally,

571
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 3: when you're doing a video you guys tell Ideally you

572
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 3: want them on the laptop, but when you get these

573
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 3: players come on, they're gonna be on their phones. They're

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Speaker 3: gonna be You saw even coach Jason Kidd, he was

575
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Speaker 3: in a car when he did mine, So you know

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00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 3: you and so then you have Okay, so the player

577
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 3: is there now, and so it's the producer's job to

578
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 3: tell them, Hey, all right, excuse me. Can you can

579
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 3: you center your mic? Keep it right there?

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00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: Uh?

581
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Speaker 3: Can you move? Can you not? Can you turn your

582
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 3: phone up? Can you turn it on airplane mode? Can

583
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 3: you know? You're giving all these instructions so you can

584
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 3: see the players Sometimes they're getting a little agitated with

585
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 3: all these requests and they don't even know you, Like,

586
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 3: who are you? You should be lucky I'm even doing

587
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 3: this and now you asked. You know. Hey, that's why

588
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 3: the producers get paid the big bucks many got is

589
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 3: that they gotta make it.

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00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: Hey, the truth is this league uncut was at least

591
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: at least forty to fifty producer Ryan's idea. I mean,

592
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: that is the truth.

593
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 3: He knew about this happening before we did.

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00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: No, he just he's the one who who said we

595
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: need to do a show and you.

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Speaker 3: Know is that right? Yeah, that's news to me.

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00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know anyone at iHeart until I got an

598
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: email one day out of the blue from Ryan Music

599
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 1: of iHeart Industries that that is the truth.

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Speaker 3: Well, start, I could tell you what else is the truth.

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Speaker 3: I can guarantee you he were fully regret sending that email. Now,

602
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 3: after dealing with us, especially our traveling hiccups and everything

603
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: that he has to deal with our editing process. I

604
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 3: could guarantee you he goes to bed at night thinking

605
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 3: why did I send that email?

606
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Speaker 4: It all goes back to that email.

607
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 3: What did I do?

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00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: Listen?

609
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 3: What did I get myself into it?

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00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 4: It's more than paid for itself by learning the most

611
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 4: sage advice I've ever received in my life.

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00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: Tis and Ryan's Ryan's Ryan's conversation for this podcast is

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00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: the life coaching he gets from you.

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00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, ties and losses, that's true. Take that wherever you go, people.

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00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: It's all about ties and losses, underdog putting that on

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00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 1: a T shirt? All right? You know what, Let's talk

617
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: some coaching carousel before we go, because obviously the Lakers

618
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: have dismissed Darvin Ham. That news came down Friday. There

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00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: are still questions about Frank Vogel's job status in Phoenix

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Speaker 1: and then with the Clippers. Basically they were in Dallas Friday.

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Speaker 1: Friday was a weird one. It was Tylo's forty seventh birthday.

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Speaker 1: The Clippers season ended on Friday night when they lost

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Speaker 1: Game six here in Dallas. But the Clippers went to

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00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: great lengths to let it be known that they want

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Speaker 1: to sign Tylo to an extension because they know both

626
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: the Lakers and the Suns would have massive interest in

627
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: trying to hire ty Lou if he made it to

628
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: the coaching market. Both teams have tried in the past.

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Speaker 1: The Lakers, of course, offered their coaching job to Tylu

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00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: before hiring Frank Vogel, and then Tylu and the Lakers,

631
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: of course, in that instance could not come to terms.

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00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 1: Tylu ended up joining Doc Rivers' staff with the Clippers

633
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 1: and then ended up succeeding Doc Rivers as the Clippers coach.

634
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: Took them to the Western Conference Finals in his first

635
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: season as Clippers coach, and now the expectation is that

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00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: he will secure a contract extension from the Clippers like

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00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard has, and so the Lakers will not have

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00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: a chance to go after him again and the Suns.

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00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: The Sons wanted Tyleru last offseason after firing Manni Williams,

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00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: but at that point Tylu had two seasons left on

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00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: his deal. There was no way that the Clippers were

642
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: going to let him out of that deal. But all

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00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: of that is a lot of long winded background to

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Speaker 1: say that Tylu will not be on the market. And

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Speaker 1: the reality with the Lakers is the two most natural

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Speaker 1: candidates for this job would be Tylu and Jason Kidd.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think the Lakers are going to have

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Speaker 1: a shot at Jason Kidd either, because there is the

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Speaker 1: strong expectation here in Dallas that Jason Kidd is going

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Speaker 1: to get an extension as well. So the question then

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Speaker 1: becomes who can the Lakers high Who are the Lakers

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Speaker 1: actually going to hire.

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Speaker 3: You made a great point about those are the two

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Speaker 3: natural candidates. You're definitely right. You know, I saw somebody

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Speaker 3: throw out Charles Lee, and he's definitely earned the right

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Speaker 3: to have a head coaching spot. Charles Lee is now

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Speaker 3: the assistant coach over there with the Boston Celtics, but

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Speaker 3: you know, he spent time with Milwaukee under Bootenholzer. I

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Speaker 3: don't know, like, I don't know that the Lakers want

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Speaker 3: another Bootenholzer disciple. You know, they just just left from

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Speaker 3: They just excuse me, they just departed with Darvin Ham.

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Speaker 3: And you know, just think about guys that don't do

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Speaker 3: not have a job. One is Bootenholzer. You know, maybe

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Speaker 3: if Doc didn't take the Bucks job, didn't leave after

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Speaker 3: the Boots, maybe he would have been a viable option.

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Speaker 3: There's just not a lot of names that make sense

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Speaker 3: for a team like the Lakers, who are trying to

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Speaker 3: win now, you would think they would want a proven god. Again, Stan,

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Speaker 3: I've been out of the loop for like the last

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Speaker 3: few days. I had a funeral to deal with for

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Speaker 3: a couple of days, and so the Ham news actually

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Speaker 3: broke while I was at my ancies funeral, and so

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Speaker 3: I saw and again I don't know who's reporting whatever

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Speaker 3: because I haven't been able to really get into it.

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Speaker 3: But was JJ Reddick's name really thrown out there?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? See, And that's I was actually just gonna say. Look,

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Speaker 1: JJ Reddick has a legitimate, already existing working relationship with

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Speaker 1: Lebron James because the podcast they've started, and that is

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Speaker 1: meaningful in this case, because the Lakers, if they're going

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Speaker 1: to proceed with Lebron James as a centerpiece player for

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Speaker 1: the next season or maybe even two more, they're going

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Speaker 1: to have to find a coach who vibes with Lebron

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Speaker 1: and Anthony Davis and JJ Reddick. He does check that box.

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Speaker 1: But on the flip side, JJ Reddick has no coaching experience,

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Speaker 1: and as you just said, the Lakers after hiring a

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Speaker 1: first time coach in Darvin Ham. Of course, Darvin Ham

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Speaker 1: had been an assistant for many, many many years. Darvin

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Speaker 1: Ham interviewed for numerous head coaching spots before he finally

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Speaker 1: got the Laker job, so he was a very seasoned

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00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: assistant coach even though it was his first head coaching job.

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Speaker 1: JJ Reddick doesn't have any NBA bench experience, and the

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Speaker 1: Lakers coaching job is as scrutinized a coaching position as

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Speaker 1: there is in professional sports anywhere. Do you really want

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Speaker 1: to put a first time coach in that position? But

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Speaker 1: it's been stressed to me that the JJ Reddick candidacy

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Speaker 1: is real again because tylu and Jason Kidd, who are

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Speaker 1: two natural targets for the Lakers to go after. My

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Speaker 1: sense is the Lakers do not expect either one of

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Speaker 1: those guys. They don't expect to have a chance to

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Speaker 1: go after either one. Both are expected to get contract

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Speaker 1: extensions here in the near future from the Clippers and

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Speaker 1: the Mavericks, respectively. So what direction do the Lakers go?

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Speaker 1: Is it a first time coach who would have player

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Speaker 1: support like JJ Reddick If they are looking for a

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Speaker 1: coach with championship experience, The list right now really is

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Speaker 1: Mike Budenholzer, and that's as far as it goes. Budenholzer

707
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: is the most experienced and decorated coach available, and Kenny

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Speaker 1: Atkinson obviously serving as Steve Kerrz lead assistant in Golden

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Speaker 1: State since leaving his head coaching post with the Nets.

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Speaker 1: But that's where we are right now, and the Lakers

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00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: don't have the ability as things stand, to just draft

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Speaker 1: up a list of five or six sensible candidates without

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Speaker 1: access to Tron lou or Jason Kidd and Stein.

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Speaker 3: Another thing that I think the Lakers have to think

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Speaker 3: about when you think about JJ Reddick, no doubt, you know,

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Speaker 3: I think he's a brilliant mind basketball mind. You know,

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Speaker 3: if he wants to coach at some point he's going

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Speaker 3: to become a head coach in the NBA. But it's

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Speaker 3: not easy coming over and coaching one of your peers

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Speaker 3: that you've played with for a long time, and on

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Speaker 3: top of that, coaching somebody that you have a podcast with.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's that's another dynamic, Rightyan.

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Speaker 1: Could you imagine me trying to coach Chris Haynes.

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Speaker 4: Well, Hey, one thing we know about it is he's

725
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Speaker 4: getting this shots. No matter what coach says.

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Speaker 1: That the players league, he'd probably win that battle.

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Speaker 3: As long as long as the coach knows that understands

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Speaker 3: that we'll get together.

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Speaker 1: You know, in his league, he's coach GM and number

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Speaker 1: one shot taker. Somehow he does it all.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's just gonna be tough. You know, when

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Speaker 3: everything's going well, maybe it works, but you know that

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Speaker 3: that will that would be a strange dynamic. I don't

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Speaker 3: know that that will be the right situation for JJ

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Speaker 3: and Lebron. I would I just if they go that,

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Speaker 3: If they go that route, that means they are they

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Speaker 3: think very highly of JJ. Reddick's potential star prowess as

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Speaker 3: a head coach.

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Speaker 1: It's just putting him in an incredibly difficult position. What

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Speaker 1: is basically the first thing we heard from Darvinham when

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Speaker 1: the season ended. One of the first things he said

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Speaker 1: in that press conference was basically, the two years I've

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Speaker 1: spent in this seat, It's been a hell of a

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Speaker 1: two years. He knew what was coming, and just I

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Speaker 1: don't even like to say these two words together in

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Speaker 1: a sentence, but I'm gonna have to. It's very much

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00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: like managing Manchester United in England. The level of scrutiny, pressure, expectation,

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Speaker 1: demands criticism. Coaching the Los Angeles Lakers. It's unlike sitting

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe the Yankees, maybe man United. Like there's

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Speaker 1: just a very short list Dallas Cowboys. You'd probably throw

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00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: into that sentence like, there are certain coaching jobs that

752
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:55,439
Speaker 1: are just you're under the microscope to a degree that

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Speaker 1: other coaches don't have to face. And so does JJ

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Speaker 1: Reddick really want to be thrown into that situation to

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Speaker 1: start his coaching career? The difficult difficult ask?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it just be. It would be it's to be

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00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 3: a tall task. That would be a tall task, and

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Speaker 3: it would be a strange, unprecedented dynamic.

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Speaker 1: And then Phoenix, We're gonna have to wait and see,

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Speaker 1: it's not one hundred percent certain that the Suns would

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Speaker 1: opt to make a coaching change. There were certainly reports

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Speaker 1: in the immediate aftermath of Phoenix getting swept by Minnesota

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Speaker 1: that Frank Vogel's job is in peril. But I have

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Speaker 1: heard that one option that the Sons have considered is

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Speaker 1: just completely redo the staff around him. Maybe there is

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Speaker 1: a former player who can come in to be on

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Speaker 1: his staff. Obviously, with Kevin Young going to BYU, that

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Speaker 1: certainly opens up the lead assistant slot. So there will

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Speaker 1: be changes on the Sun's bench. Whether it extends all

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Speaker 1: the way to the head coach remains to be seen,

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Speaker 1: but it's the same thing. There just aren't with Doc Rivers,

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Speaker 1: as you said, taking the Milwaukee job mid season. You know,

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Speaker 1: you only really have Budenholzer out there in terms of

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Speaker 1: readily available recent championship coaches, And so the Suns might say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, We're gonna give Frank Vogel another season.

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Speaker 1: They haven't made that decision yet. That was another crazy

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00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: thing that happened last week, and I got into it

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Speaker 1: in the Solo pod on Friday, that what are we

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00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: worried about the Suns? For Matt Ishbia says it's an

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00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: easy fix and that twenty six of twenty nine other

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Speaker 1: gms would trade their whole situation with the Suns right now.

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Speaker 1: So what are we worried about Phoenix? For all right?

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Speaker 1: I think that's going to do it for this edition

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Speaker 1: of this League uncut. Chris and I we'll get together

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Speaker 1: again in a few days time if I can pull

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Speaker 1: him away from all the fun he's having in his

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Speaker 1: undisputed number one favorite NBA city. There never was another choice.

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Speaker 1: There is no second place, New York. And there you go.

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Speaker 3: This is a business decision.

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Speaker 1: New York. You should go. You should fly home in

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Speaker 1: an iHeart New York T shirt that's easily found at

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Speaker 1: Charlotte and I Love New York coffee cup home. That

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Speaker 1: a good That'd be a good gift. Show contributor Charlotte Haynes.

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Speaker 3: Just try to be transparent with the with the listeners, y'all.

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