1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal. Ill that for me. I'm 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well, 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: for Dake Edith State. Is that woo woom? And Dan 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: and Tie welcome back to the solid verbal, Boys and girls, 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: my name is Ty hilden Brand, joining me as always 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: over there in New York City, My man Dan Ubinstein, Sir, 8 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: how are you? 9 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: I don't want a lot for Christmas. Tie, There's just 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: there's one thing that I need you. 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: Do an Oria Carrey. He's got to be Mariah Carey, right. 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: I don't care about the presence underneath the Christmas tree. 13 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: I just want bull season for my own more than 14 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 2: you could ever know. Tie, make my wish come true. 15 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: All I want for Christmas is who's in the Belk Bowl. 16 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 2: Let's go Virginia. 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: Let's do this. Well that was lovely, thank you. 18 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got an alternate version if you're willing. There's 19 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: a second verse, whereas I won't ask for much this Christmas. 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: I won't even wish for snow. I'm just going to 21 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 2: keep on waiting for the Red Box Bowl. 22 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was not as strong. 23 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: I felt like the who kind of fit a little 24 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: bit better. 25 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: Definitely picked the right one to try. 26 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: I was thinking, all I want for Christmas is the you, 27 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: But then we would have to go back to talking 28 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 2: about the Pinstripe Bowl and who wants that. 29 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, Jack Cohne is going to be 30 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: starting in the pin Stripe Bowl for Wisconsin. I have 31 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: that note of here. Yeah, I'm changing my pick to 32 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: the you as a result of King Cone getting the start. 33 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: Okay, I think that's the reasonable. You're on the record 34 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: officially before kickoff. 35 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: So here's the deal, boys and girls. 36 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: Wait, is that before kickoff? I don't know how the 37 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 2: timing works. We're a we are in a like a 38 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: the fourth dimension. 39 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: We are we are in the fourth dimension. Here is 40 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: the deal. We alluded to it a little bit on 41 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: our Wednesday show. But if you are hearing this now, 42 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: you're probably hearing this show on a Sunday. But because 43 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: and I have all sorts of scheduling conflicts over the 44 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: next week or so, we are actually in the process 45 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: of banging out two shows back to back here. So 46 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: the very first one we're doing is going to be 47 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: the playoffs and Bowls. I guess that run up through 48 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: at least some portion of New Year's Eve, and then 49 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: we got another one that we're going to do. Probably 50 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: take a little bit of a break, I would think, 51 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: just a bathroom break or what the whistle. 52 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: So I'm wearing a cafe are and a diaper tie. 53 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: I'm here for the long haul. Then we're going to 54 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: preview the rest of the Bowl games. Make sure we 55 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: have all of our bases covered here. Make sure you 56 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: have enough information to pick your confidence selections in the 57 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: Soliverable bullpool. So we're recording on Friday, which is, like 58 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 2: Dan said, a little bit of the fourth dimension here. 59 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: A little bit awkward for us timing wise, but we're 60 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 2: going to do our best to run through as many 61 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 2: games as possible. Don't forget if you're listening to us 62 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: over the holidays, if you're in the car, if you're 63 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: going to meet family, tell people about the Soliverble. That's 64 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: the gift that you can give us. And in return, 65 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: we're going to do our best to pump out some 66 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: A plus quality free content here. 67 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: Hey plus, Yeah, this is news to me. So with 68 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: all that being said, Daniel, yeah, should we just dive 69 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: right into our Bowl games here? I have a quick request. 70 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: Yes, because news wise, it's going to be difficult to 71 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 2: react to things if something happens between the time we're 72 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: recording this. Like you said, we're in the fourth dimension, 73 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: fifth dimension. I don't know. The very end of. 74 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: Interstellar was quite confusing to me. Yeah, we're behind the bookshelf. 75 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so yeah, if your books are rattling right now, 76 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: that's that's mama h somehow. I don't know. 77 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: So. 78 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: First of all, Marshall beat us F Yes in the 79 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: what was the bad Boy Mower's guest rillable Gaspardiya, Yeah, 80 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: that was pretty much start to finish. They go up 81 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: twenty one to seven in the first quarter and a 82 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: really nice back half of the season for what the 83 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: Thundering Herd. Yeah, that's what they Areily, they again prove 84 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: the rule of the team with the better defensive points 85 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: per drive without at least a terrible offense like San 86 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: Diego State, who also lost their bowl game against Ohio. 87 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: How you doing so far in your bullpicks? Really well, 88 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: I'm seven and two so far. 89 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 2: I think I'm something like that. I missed on UAB, 90 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: which is dumb because UAB should have been the pick 91 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 2: for my theory. I went against I went against Swab 92 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: and I went against Utah State, which also should have 93 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: been my pick. So the theory is doing great. I 94 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: just interrupted myself. So I think we covered everything else 95 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: bowl wise. But just because we are in this four 96 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 2: point five dimension, Tie, if I could get a breaking 97 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: news real quick so we can cover our bases just 98 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: in case. 99 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: Dan, we have. 100 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: Now none of this is confirmed, nor is any of 101 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: it true, but it could be by the time you're 102 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 2: listening to this. So Urban Meyer has been knighted. Yeah, 103 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: and he will receive a Kennedy Center on s Meyer. 104 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 2: Mike Leitch has embraced a conspiracy theory that has crossed 105 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: the line we didn't even know existed. 106 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: Okay, into the sixth dimension. 107 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yukon somehow lost again. They're not in a bowl. 108 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 2: They lost. There was a very murderous fight in the 109 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 2: cheese it bowl of Jesuits. And what I'm most excited by, 110 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: and I think you will be too, Tie, is like 111 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: a lot of these NBA players, NFL players who get 112 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: the custom cleats and the custom shoes with air brushing, 113 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: you know, you see, like Sonic the Hedgehog and stuff. 114 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 2: Brian Kelly's cotton Bowl boots have an airbrushed picture of 115 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: Brian Kelly wearing his old son Bowl boots, which I 116 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 2: thought was very wonderful touch toxtrive the Cotton Bowl so 117 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 2: Texan so just wanted to cover our bases there. Congratulations 118 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 2: to again Urban Meyer, who I think is actually teaching 119 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: a grad course on leadership leadership some ethics. Sure she 120 00:05:55,040 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: wouldn't have picked a guy. Okay, So here we are, Daniel. 121 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: It's the holidays, it's college football. Let's just do this thing. 122 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: I'll go time. 123 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: Time. Fine, Dan. It brings a singular, lonely tier to 124 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: my eye to know that we're closing out twenty eighteen. 125 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: But I'm very excited on the same note that we've 126 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: got big, high flying Playoff Bowl action coming at you. 127 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 2: Oh wow, you really are sort of treading on my 128 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 2: serious ex homeboys right now. 129 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: A little too close to the line, there, little close. 130 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: Let's start with the Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic. It is 131 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: the first of two playoff semi final games. We're going 132 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: right into it. We're jumping right in Dankay at and 133 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: T Stadium, Jerry's World in Arlington, Texas. They play this 134 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: one on Saturday, the twenty ninth of December at four 135 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: pm Eastern on ESPN Spins. Some would say Notre Dame 136 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: twelve and zero. They are the three seed headed into 137 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: this tournament, this mini tournament versus Clemson, they are thirteen 138 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: and oh they're the number two seed. Clemson is currently 139 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: a twelve and one half point favorite. Dan, Yeah, let 140 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: me shade my analysis. I have a lot to say 141 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: about this game, as you might. 142 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: I'm just I might pull up a chair. I usually 143 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: stand when I do these, but I'm I'm ready to 144 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: sit on a dock of the bay listening. 145 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: Let me shade my comments by saying, just upfront, Clemson 146 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: is the better team. Yes, we would agree with that. 147 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: Yes we don't fully know, but that's what it appears. Yeah, 148 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: it appears that way. Project These are somewhat untested teams 149 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: in terms of high quality opponents. Would I would still say, 150 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: now you know how I feel about the mission like 151 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 2: the Michigan timing. That's a team in late August early 152 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: September is not whatever they're going to be later on 153 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: in the season, for sure. First conversation, Okay, but. 154 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: I think clem since better on offense, They're slightly better 155 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: on defense. I got forty eight guys or so on 156 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: the roster. I think I saw with playoff experience, there's 157 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: a lot working in their favor here, including one big 158 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: matchup that I'm going to get to in a second. 159 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: But I need your advice, Okay, before we get there. 160 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: I have a dilemma. I talked about this with some 161 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: of the kind patrons, some of our friendly verballers at 162 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: our Minneapolis meetup. Who better to break down Clemson every 163 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: game this season? I have taken the points against Notre Dame. Yeah, 164 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: and I don't know how well that's worked out against 165 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: the spread, but straight up Notre Dame's undefeated, it's worked 166 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: out pretty well. Now they're the underdog, and this has 167 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: thrown me into a bit of an existential crisis. Do 168 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: I keep the train rolling by taking the points or 169 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: do I continue betting against Notre Dame. I'm asking for 170 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: a friend, Dan, I need to know what you would 171 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: do if you had something working And now, all of 172 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: a sudden, this sort of breaks the formula. 173 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 2: Notre Dame seven and five against the spread this year, 174 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: by the way, so Vegas not fully able to figure 175 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: out the Irish at this point in terms of spread 176 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: against opponents. So do I take the points or do 177 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: I continue betting against Notre Dame. No, just break down 178 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: the game like a human being tied. Not this superstitious garbage. 179 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: It doesn't make a difference. Just no, no, give me 180 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: your opinion of this game. And you know Notre Dame 181 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 2: better than most. So what you say I mean not 182 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: because of gambling, but what you say holds weight with 183 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: people because you pay close attention to this team. 184 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: All year long. 185 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 2: So don't don't like, don't throw a wrench into your 186 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: actual opinion. Let's get let's get tied to the core. Tie. 187 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: Come on, I have superstitious qualities here, now. 188 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: Throw them out the throw out the window. You have 189 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: a sound to do that. 190 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: There are two things that worry me a lot as 191 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: a Notre Dame fan. I'm just going to talk subjectively 192 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: here now. The first I think is pretty obvious. Clemson's 193 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: got an NFL caliber defensive line. They've got four starters 194 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 1: up front with twenty two and a half sacks in 195 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: the season. Many they've been wreaking havoc all year long. 196 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: And I keep thinking back to what Mike Gulick Junior 197 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: told me when I did the Homers Show earlier this year. 198 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: And he gave Notre Dame's offensive line like a C 199 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: or a C plus. That was about three quarters of 200 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: the way through the year. But headed into a matchup 201 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: like this. 202 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 2: They replaced their center right. That was a big injury. 203 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: That's right, Yes, that's right. Headed into a matchup like this, 204 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: they're gonna have their hands full. If they're still playing 205 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 1: at that sea quality, they're gonna have their hands full. 206 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: Even if they're not, they're going to have their hands full, 207 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: which is gonna make it tough to open up holes 208 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: for Dexter Williams and Tony Jones and Jafar Armstrong, who's 209 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: finally healthy now. So I think there's a real risk 210 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: of Notre Dame getting or being forced into being one dimensional. 211 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: That's the first thing. The other thing, I think there's 212 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: a real chance that they take so punches early Notre 213 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: Dame does, and that they're playing catch up the whole game. 214 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: Their defense is good, it's legit, but it seems like 215 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: you can get them early. And I just have these visions, 216 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: these nightmares of Notre Dame being stopped in their opening possession, 217 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: Clemson marching the field, scoring instantly, Ian Book getting the 218 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: ball back, throwing a bad pick Clemson being up fourteen 219 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: to nothing like six and a half minutes into the 220 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: first quarter. That is my biggest fear as a Notre 221 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: Dame fan, that they fall behind early and then they're 222 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: playing catch up the whole game. 223 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 2: I feel as if Clemson was not towards the end 224 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: of the year like a jump out team. 225 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 1: Right. 226 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: It was a slowish start in some weird weather it was. 227 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: I know it was what fourteen to three after the 228 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 2: first quarter against pitt which is a great start for Clemson, 229 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 2: but not runaway. The Boston College game was manageable into 230 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 2: the half for the Eagles. South Carolina was pretty tight. 231 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: So if Clemson were to jump out against a very 232 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: good Notre Dame team, when that come as somewhat of 233 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 2: a surprise given some recent games. 234 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: I guess. I mean what matters is what they've done 235 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: in the second halves of They. 236 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 2: Went down six nothing right for sure, But you're just 237 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: talking about how they jump out. They were down six 238 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: nothing to Duke after the first quarter. 239 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: The three reasons I am optimistic about this game from 240 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: the Notre Dame perspective gets back to what you said before. 241 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: But Clemson, I think a little untested against a really 242 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: good defense. Notre Dame is going to be the best 243 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: defense they've seen all year. That's hands down. How does 244 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence respond. It's going to be interesting to see that. 245 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: The other thing that I'd add here is if Notre 246 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: Dame can get their big receivers involved, that may present 247 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: an issue for Clemson. 248 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: Yep, Boykin and Claypool. 249 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: Boyk and Claypool, they're both about six four, two thirty ish. 250 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: Clemson's not small at corner. They're fine, but it's a 251 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 1: different kind of challenge than I think they faced all year. 252 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how they respond here. So ultimately, 253 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: not to talk everyone's face off, I think the matchup 254 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: in the trenches is the one that swings this in 255 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: Clemson's direction. I think they're the better team. I think 256 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: they knock off Notre Dame. So I've got eight confidence 257 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: points on that. 258 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 2: So when Clemson is pushing two touchdowns as a favorite, 259 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 2: it's pretty clear why. Because the things you mentioned, the 260 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 2: line that can swarm anybody an offense, you don't even 261 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 2: mention Travis Ctn. Perhaps by the end of the year, 262 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,599 Speaker 2: the best running back in college football has ability to 263 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: break it loose pretty consistently the offensive line with a 264 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 2: ton of experience on Clemson's end. You mentioned Trevor Lawrence. 265 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: So to me, the Clemson path is pretty obvious and 266 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: that's pressuring ian book and just slowly but surely. They 267 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 2: feel very crock potty in the way that they've won 268 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 2: this year, getting a lot of guys involved. To me, though, 269 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 2: the Notre Dame path, which is something you also alluded to, 270 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: is it's pretty much fearlessly challenging Clemson all over the 271 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: field through the air. I don't think Notre Dame can 272 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 2: win this game on the ground, I really don't. 273 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: I agree. 274 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 2: I agree with that, and that'll have to be quickly 275 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: because of the pass rush in the pocket collapsing potential. 276 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: So that's what screens and crossers, maybe some rub routes 277 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: getting creative. That's Chip. I always get my chip, Chip 278 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 2: long younger guy. And defensively, Clarkley this defense, which has 279 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: been great. It's and this is one of my all 280 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: time favorite phrases. We make fun of the old like 281 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: Thursday Night Crew because they'd always say like pin your 282 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 2: ears back or third in California, that kind of thing. 283 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: If Notre Dame can make Trevor Lawrence Sea ghosts. I 284 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: love that phrasing before. You've never heard sea ghosts. Never 285 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: heard that in a million? Come on, see ghosts. Yeah, 286 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 2: so you know, like the sort of plays where all 287 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 2: of a sudden nose tackle drops in a coverage. 288 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,239 Speaker 1: I think I feel like Lewis. 289 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: Nicks had a like a pick doing that at some 290 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 2: point See ghosts, Seeing ghosts, where you're seeing you're basically 291 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: confusing the quarterback into seeing coverage that's not really there. 292 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: And Trevor Lawrence, for as high as his ceiling is 293 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 2: and as excellent as he has been for most of 294 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 2: the year, it's a true freshman or is near the 295 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: end of his true freshman campaign, and true freshman can 296 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: make mistakes. So if Notre Dame can do a good 297 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: job of disguising certain things on defense coverages, I think 298 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 2: that is a huge, huge deal. And then on a 299 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: similar note, is with that secondary notably it's Julian Love 300 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: who's the other corner, Troy Pride Junior, Troy Pride Junior. Yes, 301 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: it's those two winning fifty to fifty balls deep. T 302 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: Higgins is outstanding. They're really really good downfield, and if 303 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 2: they find themselves on an island. Without that safety help, 304 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 2: it's winning those fifty to fifty huge, huge moments, and 305 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 2: so that's the path to me to Notre Dame. I 306 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: think the Irish have to score thirty. I think they 307 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 2: score anything less than thirty. It's hard for me to 308 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: see them walking away with a win. I'm going to 309 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: take the points. I find it very difficult to give 310 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 2: that many points against what I still believe, even though 311 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 2: the opponents haven't been wonderful offensively other than maybe Stanford, 312 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: that defense will lose this game by more than twelve 313 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: and a half thirteen points. So I'm going to take 314 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: those points. I am going to come in at thirty 315 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 2: one twenty five Clemson. 316 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: I got thirty four to twenty one Clemson. 317 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: I'm worried about the offense against USC, what it looked 318 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 2: like and seeing that kind of slow starts. That troubles 319 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: me a little. 320 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: They're not going to come out slow offensively in this one, 321 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: at least not the same manner that they did against USC. 322 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: If they come out slow, it's because Clemson's got their 323 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: number and because their defensive line is in Ian Book's face. Okay, 324 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: all right, so I. 325 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 2: Guess we are you gonna take those points. 326 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: No, I'm going thirty four to twenty one. 327 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: Oh, okay, So Clemson is barely covering, barely covering by 328 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 2: half a point. 329 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm looking here at the list of gifts here. 330 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: M hm. The Cotton Bowl would not disclose, cowards, They 331 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: would not disclose. So I suppose your pipe dream of 332 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: Brian Kelly wearing boots of Brian Kelly wearing boots is 333 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: still a possibility. 334 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: Can neither confirm nor deny. That's the Cotton Bowl stance. 335 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: All right, what is your food wreck, by the way 336 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: for as part of the world rule. 337 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 2: Oh yes, went here before Ohio State Oregon in the 338 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: National Championship. So I hope that's not a bad omen 339 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 2: before one of our teams plays in Jerry Worlds. Pecan 340 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 2: Lodge is outstanding barbecue. I know it's Dallas. The game 341 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: is north of Dallas in or whatever direction of Dallas 342 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: in Arlington. Incredible barbecue. There is a line, so go earlier, 343 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 2: go with a lot of people to skip the line 344 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: and get the trough really really strong fried chicken, much 345 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 2: more so than any barbecue play should have. Again, Pacan 346 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 2: Lodge wonderful. 347 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: Moving on to the Capitol One Orange Bullets, the second 348 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: of two playoff semi finals. They played at hard Rock 349 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: Stadium in Miami, Florida, also on Saturday, the twenty ninth, 350 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: This one at eight pm, also on ESPN. It's Oklahoma, 351 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: your Big twelve champ at twelve and one, the number 352 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 1: four team in the country, squaring off against Alabama at 353 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: thirteen and No, you're sec champ. They are you guessed 354 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: that the number one team in the country. They're a 355 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: fourteen point favorite, which we'll talk about here momentarily. Okay. 356 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: I said several weeks ago that I was really excited 357 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: at the potential that this matchup could have. I am 358 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: pumped to watch this game. Oh I'm not sure what 359 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: state I will be in mentally after watching Notre Dame Clemson, 360 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: but I'm going to force my way through this game nonetheless, 361 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: because this is going to be an awesome matchup. We've got, 362 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: I think, a philosophical difference between these two teams. We've 363 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: got Alabama, which is certainly loaded for bear on offense 364 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: and outstanding on defense, versus Oklahoma, who is shockingly even 365 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: better than Alabama on offense and just doesn't really care 366 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: as much about defense. I like, I like how you. 367 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 2: Said this is philosophical, Like Oklahoma's like, yeah, we don't 368 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: want to be good at defense. 369 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: Our philosophy. I want to be good. I'm to the 370 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: point where I'm wondering if that isn't the plan. If 371 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,719 Speaker 1: the plan isn't, who cares if they score. But if 372 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: we get three stops or two turnovers or one big 373 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: play in the red zone, is that enough to give 374 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: us an extra possession? Is the defense is playing FIFA there? 375 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: It's actually yeah, Okay, I'm wondering if that's their strategy. 376 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 2: I think they want to be good. I think they 377 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: want to make stops and get picks and turn over 378 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: their opponents. 379 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: But only three times a game? Dan, sure, only three 380 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: times a game. So, as I said, Bama defending champ, 381 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: number one team in the country, squaring off against Kyler 382 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: Murray his Heisman trophy. Crazy offense, not so crazy a defense. 383 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: The points spread here, as I said, is fourteen and 384 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: the over under for this game is seventy nine. So 385 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: Vegas thinking a lot of points as well. Since I 386 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: talked to everyone's ear off with the first game, where 387 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: do you come down on the Orange Bowl here? 388 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I think you're one thousand percent 389 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: right that this is just in terms of the entertainment possibilities. 390 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 2: And I noted this on Twitter. These are the first 391 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 2: two teams in a long time, if not ever, to 392 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 2: average four points per drive against FBS teams, and that's 393 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 2: taking out garbage time to face each other. So this 394 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 2: is the absolute height of huge offenses playing on a 395 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,239 Speaker 2: big stage. So I could not be more excited. The 396 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 2: path to me is pretty simple. First of all, I 397 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: don't know what Tua's ankle is going to look like 398 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: in real, live, huge college football action. It's one thing 399 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 2: for you know your ankle to heal enough so you 400 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: can run a five k. But to a staring down 401 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 2: a still, I was going to say, good defense a 402 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 2: still eleven guys who are athletic and big and can 403 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 2: hurts everybody in this way, Dan yes and force him 404 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 2: into pain. 405 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 1: That is that is a huge. 406 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 2: Question to me. So the path for Oklahoma is a 407 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 2: lot like what they look like against Texas and West 408 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 2: Virginia and knowing that they're going to get up points 409 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: and yards and drives whatever, but taking chances blitzing to 410 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 2: flush to a from the pocket and enforce him to 411 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 2: make plays with his feet or throw on the run 412 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: and prove that a lot. And that's what Georgia was 413 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 2: able to take advantage of when he was not able 414 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: to because of his health. So they need to manifest, manifest, 415 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: they need to manufacture that's the word, turnover opportunities because 416 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 2: otherwise it will be nearly impossible for this Oklahoma defense 417 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: to play the tides straight up. And so they need 418 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 2: a combination of the turnover number being zero point zero 419 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 2: when they have the ball and probably need to force 420 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 2: two turnovers from Alabama to just have a shot of 421 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 2: winning this game in a shootout otherwise real tough for 422 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 2: me to see. I like that Oklahoma has a really 423 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 2: strong offensive line. I think they just won the Joe 424 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 2: More Award given to the best collective offensive line. It's 425 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: like an eight hundred pound trophy. So when you look 426 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 2: back at the teams that have had success against Alabama, 427 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 2: it's having that experience offensive line. Whether it was Ole Miss, 428 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 2: whether it was Texas A and M Johnny Manziel, whether 429 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 2: it's you know, Clemson with their offensive line that they 430 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 2: had uh protecting Deshaun Watson. 431 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: I love that's a bill. Well, you know what, and 432 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: you bring up a really good part. I mean to 433 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: cut you off, but no, you're good. They do have 434 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: one of college football's best offensive lines, just won the award. 435 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: They have a nice stable of running backs that have 436 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: developed despite Rodney Anderson being out for the year. Most importantly, 437 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: they've got the mobile quarterback with a strong arm. They've 438 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: got playmaking receivers. Maybe not as big as we saw 439 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: on like some of those old Texas A and M teams, 440 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: but still they're really good. They're very dangerous in space, 441 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: and we know that Alabama has been prone to giving 442 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: up some big plays this year. There are a lot 443 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: of checks in the boxes next to the formula that 444 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: we've kind of identified over the last I don't know 445 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 1: ten years or so for how you beat this Nick 446 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: Saban Alabama team, or if you want to give yourself 447 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 1: a chance to beat this Nick Saban team. I think 448 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: they've got the playmakers on offense. I don't know if 449 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: they're balanced enough on defense. They have to hope that 450 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 1: they get into that shootout and that maybe they can, 451 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: as you said, turnover Alabama two three times and try 452 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: to get a few extra possessions. Here's my thing. You're 453 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: right onto a curious to see how he looks, how 454 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: the ankle is, and I don't know if it really 455 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 1: matters if it's him or Jalen Hurts. They're both excellent. 456 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: To his difference a little bit off fence, so they're different, 457 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: but they're both excellent. For me, it's which defense do 458 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: I trust more to create those turnovers? Because I think 459 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: both teams might find themselves playing a similar style on defense. Sure, 460 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: I trust Alabama's defense without question. 461 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: Well, Alabama's defense can dominate without turning. You know, Oklahoma 462 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 2: over so against power five teams. Oklahoma in eleven games 463 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: turned they gained eight turnovers, and Alabama in those they 464 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 2: played how many games against power five teams, It's right, 465 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 2: ten games they had even more, they gained seventeen. So 466 00:23:55,080 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: Alabama on in total, in total whatever, did a better 467 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: job of flipping the field. 468 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: Damma can dominate with their defense. They've been dominating all year. 469 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: I don't think they necessarily dominate in this game, And 470 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: that's why I think they find themselves playing to a 471 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: similar philosophy, strategy, ineptitude, whatever you want to call it, 472 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 1: that we've seen from Oklahoma. I think we might see 473 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: almost two birds of a feather in this football game, 474 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: depending on how much success Kyler Murray and the Sooners 475 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: have on offense. 476 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 2: How long into this game. I don't know who's calling 477 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 2: this game, and I don't care to look it up 478 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 2: that much because it doesn't really matter. But how long 479 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 2: into this game will we get either the play by 480 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 2: play broadcaster or the analyst saying something like, you know, 481 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 2: Alabama has traditionally struggled with dual threat quarterbacks. 482 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: You mean Mike. 483 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: Everybody ever has struggled with transcendent Heisman Trophy winning quarterbacks. Yes, 484 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 2: Alabama happens to be a college football team of which 485 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 2: everyone struggles with a guy who can run crazy fast 486 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: and throw the ball sixty five yards on a rope. 487 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 2: So that will happen one hundred percent? Will you pick 488 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 2: in here? I think I'm gonna go Oklahoma. I don't 489 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 2: think they went out right, but I think you're right 490 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 2: in terms of I think to kill Oklahoma would mean 491 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 2: I mean, killing Oklahoma means winning by more than fourteen 492 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 2: because of this offense. And I just don't see Kyler Murray, 493 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 2: who has been huge on every stage that he's been 494 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: on this year, even with a couple of early mistakes 495 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 2: in some bigger games. I just think he shows out. 496 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 2: I just think he is a big game player. And 497 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: the defense is not good enough to win this game 498 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 2: for the Sooners. I have Alabama by ten to eleven 499 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 2: points here like forty one to thirty three somewhere in that, 500 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 2: you know, forty two, thirty two, So pressing up against 501 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 2: double digits. But I think it's gonna be all sorts 502 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 2: of fun. And you're right, it's too many points and 503 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 2: just the worst thing in this game is just too clear. 504 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 2: It is just too clear. And that is if it's 505 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: too that at sixty five percent, that is, if Tua 506 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: rolls his ankle and Jalen Hurts has to go, it 507 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 2: is it's too much Alabama in every phase. So that's 508 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 2: where I'm going. I'm taking the points in both of 509 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 2: these playoff games. We agree agree on this one. I 510 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 2: can't wait. 511 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: They get a gift suite, a tour no watch, okay, 512 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: a personalized bobblehead of each student athlete, and a sling bag. Dan. 513 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 2: That's pretty good. And I saw that. Did you see 514 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: the uh the bobbles of Tua and Kyler Murray? I 515 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: did not, Okay, So I saw those on Twitter. Somebody 516 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 2: posted them, and they are about seven thousand percent better 517 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 2: than remember the Christiano Ronaldo one that was super weird looking. 518 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: These. 519 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's like a new three D 520 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 2: laser printed whatever version of a customized bobblehead or bus, 521 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 2: but these actually looked pretty spot on. So hopefully that 522 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 2: carries over to everybody on the team. But I would 523 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 2: imagine there is a long snapper who is going to 524 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: look like he's a little bit melty. That's right, that's right, 525 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 2: it's going to happen. And yeah, this sling bag is nice. 526 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 2: That's fine. 527 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: Let's move on. Yeah, let's go to the Chick fil 528 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: A Peach Bowl in Mercedes Benz Stadium in Hotlanta. They're 529 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: also playing this one on Saturday, the twenty ninth, twelve 530 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: pm Eastern on ESPN. We've got Florida at nine and three. 531 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: We've got Michigan at ten and two. Michigan's a seven 532 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: and a half point favorite. Notable here, Michigan's going to 533 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: be without Rashaun Gary, their talented defensive lineman. They're going 534 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: to be without Devin Bush, he's not star linebacker. They're 535 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: going to be without Karan Higden, their primary running back. 536 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: All are out of this Bowl game. Just something to 537 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: keep in mind. That's a lot of firepower Dan. It 538 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 1: is good Michigan team, well rounded, but it's a lot I. 539 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 2: Think without Aubrey Solomon as well, who I saw today 540 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 2: announced that he's transferring to Tennessee to be a little 541 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 2: bit closer to where he's from. 542 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you think that there's a motivation gap in 543 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: this game? 544 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 2: Yes, I absolutely do. Michigan on the precipice on the edge. 545 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 2: We talked about this a little bit a show or 546 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 2: two ago and Florida in year one. This is gravy, 547 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 2: This is house money to get to a New Year's 548 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:19,959 Speaker 2: six game, playing a huge stadium in Atlanta. I definitely 549 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 2: think there is. And Michigan's bull record hasn't been the best. 550 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: This is an opponent that Michigan has sort of proven 551 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 2: itself pretty well against recently. So even though it's a 552 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 2: huge bowl game, even though Michigan has addressed a lot 553 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 2: of what has ailed it previously, looking at Shaye Patterson 554 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: and what he has given to this offense and the 555 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 2: advancement of this offensive line. In terms of strict motivation, Yes, 556 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 2: that all said. 557 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: Does it matter? Is my follow up? Quest. 558 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: Michigan's better and they can win this game, and they 559 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 2: can win this game thirteen to ten, maybe they won't cover. 560 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. That doesn't really bother me. I'm full 561 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: confidence mode right now. If it's not the playoff, I 562 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 2: am pretty certain that I would be the most nervous 563 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 2: fan if I were a Florida fan watching Felipe Franks 564 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 2: throw into this Michigan defense, even without some huge names. Yeah, 565 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 2: I think that that's what would make me the most nervous. 566 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: They're good enough even without some of those guns to 567 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: I think make his life a living hell. 568 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of talent still on that defense, 569 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 2: especially upfront. Florida can run the ball pretty well. It's 570 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 2: just it's a bad matchup for Florida. And I know 571 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,719 Speaker 2: Florida finished the season, I mean, outside of the Missouri 572 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: game pretty well, and there's a lot to like about 573 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 2: Florida moving forward if they can find that quarterback. But 574 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 2: this Florida defense is not where recent Florida defenses have 575 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,959 Speaker 2: been in terms of talent, in terms of production. So 576 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 2: I'm along with Michigan. I think Florida covers. I think 577 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: it's ugly. I think we get like a seventeen thirteen game. 578 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: I got Michigan in thirty two confidence points on this one. 579 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, let me load my confidence So I agree with you. 580 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: I think there is a motivation gap, and I think 581 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: think it does work to Florida's favor that they're super young, 582 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: they're trying to reestablish themselves now under Dan Mullen. I 583 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: think they'll play hard in this game. But you're right, 584 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: Michigan's just better. The numbers according to Bill c his 585 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: SMP numbers have Florida as the twenty seventh best offense 586 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: in the country. I trust his numbers, but I've watched 587 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: enough of Florida to know that what they're trotting out there, 588 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: even though it's gotten better, that is not good enough 589 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: to beat this Michigan defense. And you know this isn't 590 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: like Ohio State against Michigan. This is a team that 591 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: scored six points against Mississippi State. In any case, Michigan wins. 592 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: I think they win going away, and I think it's 593 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: by thirty two confidence points. 594 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 2: Wow, Michigan's the thing that you if you like Florida 595 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 2: a little bit, let's travel. And it's also Michigan away 596 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 2: from home offensively in particular. So you have a nice 597 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 2: win against Rutgers, you have the weird game. Weird that's 598 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 2: a very nice term for what they did against Ohio 599 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,959 Speaker 2: State and Northwestern was certainly not the jump started offense 600 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 2: that I think people are expecting it, and Notre Dame 601 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 2: wise not not. I think they scored one of those 602 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 2: touchdowns on a kick return. So offensively, it's been on 603 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 2: the road pretty uneven at best for Michigan. All Right, 604 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 2: we have twenty one, twenty one confidence points in Michigan here, all. 605 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: Right, before we move on to the next bowl game, Dan. 606 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, this one is I have mixed feelings about this. 607 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:26,959 Speaker 2: What you're about to do? 608 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: They get a three hundred dollars I almost said fan 609 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: cred gift card, A fan card gift card. I don't 610 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: know what that is. 611 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 2: I'm looking it up right now, fan card. It is 612 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 2: a prepaid master card. Okay, okay, that's fine, that's great. 613 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: Sure, a Fossil Watch, a Mophy power Station XL, which 614 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: is one of the lovable batteries, give me all that juice, 615 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: and Amazon Echo Dot smart speaker third Gen throw it out, 616 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: and day Football. 617 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 2: Have you changed your stance at all after our secret 618 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 2: garbage bracket on voice activation. 619 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: I agree with you that it's garbage, but it does 620 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: have some utility, I will say that. 621 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 2: And we're certainly not being paid by a whatever, a competitor, 622 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 2: not a Amazon Echo. 623 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 624 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 2: As soon as those stories started popping up, like yeah, 625 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 2: they're listening to everything and they're sending it to random 626 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 2: people like oh, okay, I think I'm gonna I'm gonna pass. 627 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna pass on the whole voice activation 628 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 2: in Amazon. 629 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: I turned my light song with it. It's great. Oh, 630 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: I think it's cool. In theory that was. 631 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 2: I saw a story in Germany that somebody requested you 632 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 2: can request your Amazon data in Europe under some privacy law, 633 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 2: and he received seventeen hundred wave files. And it turns 634 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 2: out the seventeen hundred wave files were of somebody else 635 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 2: because he doesn't even have an Amazon Echo. 636 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: Okay, nice. 637 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 2: So if you are playing in this game, Florida Michigan player, 638 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 2: congrats on a great season. Take home the MOFY, take 639 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 2: home the the credit card, the watch, whatever, the football, 640 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 2: you know, leave a little behind. In Atlanta, I like 641 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 2: the Echo Dot. I'm fine with it and fine with it. 642 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 2: Eat in Atlanta at Heirloom Barbique Airloom Market, barbecue Great 643 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 2: Great Barbecue or Pont City Market really cool food Haull 644 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 2: type situation. 645 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: To the to the Belk Bowl. We go, Yes, Adam 646 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: A mean game. Adam A mean game. Bank of America 647 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: Stadium in Charlotte. It's between South Carolina and Virginia, both 648 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: teams seven and five. South Carolina a five and a 649 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: half point favorite. These teams both get a shopping trip 650 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: to a Belk department store and a fossil watch got bad. 651 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: You got options there, so that works. 652 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can do maybe some post Christmas shopping, holiday 653 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 2: shopping at Belk, get some some loved ones, some solid clothing. 654 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: I'd be great. Deebo, Samuel our boy will not be 655 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: playing in this game for South Carolina is going to 656 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: be siss one out. I think the records are quite 657 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: deceiving here, Dan. 658 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 2: Oh, dude, I throw them out. 659 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: I think, well, I don't know if you throw them out. 660 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: I think they kind of negate themselves because they're both 661 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 1: the same at seven and five, right, But I think 662 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: South Carolina is a lot better than their record. And 663 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: on the flip side, I think you really need to 664 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: squint to find impressive wins on Virginia's resume. Okay, so 665 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is that seven and five for South 666 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: Carolina means a lot more than the seven and five 667 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: when I see it next to Virginia. I think the 668 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: game Cocks has shown all year that they're going to 669 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: fight you, and they're not going to take this one off. 670 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: I think they can stop Bryce Perkins. I think they're 671 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: gonna win this game, probably close, maybe ugly. But I've 672 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: got twenty three on South Carolina here outright. 673 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 2: Twenty three. It goes against my points for drive defense theory, 674 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 2: Virginia the better defense, and it is actually a really 675 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 2: good matchup for Virginia. They to me have the clear 676 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 2: better defense with as much as teams were running on 677 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 2: South Carolina, and they proved to have a pretty efficient offense, 678 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 2: not explosive, but they moved the ball pretty consistently downfield 679 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,479 Speaker 2: both through the air to my guy, Olamide z Achias guy, 680 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 2: and South Carolina's defense can be nickeled and dimed. You 681 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 2: can run on him, you can throw them a little 682 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 2: bit short. So I actually liked the matchup quite a 683 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 2: bit for the who's which is why I said all 684 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 2: I want for Christmas is Who's and I just feel 685 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 2: good about it. And also, if you look at South 686 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 2: Carolina's schedule, did you watch the Office Tie? Yeah, you 687 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 2: remember the all time perhaps the best episode of the 688 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 2: series ever, the dinner Party episode. Yeah, just the best 689 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 2: of the best of the best. 690 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,479 Speaker 1: Uh huh, a little awkward, but yeah. 691 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 2: They're talking about Michael Scott's vasectomy and his girlfriend said 692 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 2: she didn't want kids. He got a vasectomy, then she 693 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 2: said she did want kids. He reversed the vasectomy then 694 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 2: and he did that snip snap, snip snap. Here's South 695 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 2: Carolina season win loss win loss win loss win win 696 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 2: loss win, loss win, which makes us do for I 697 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 2: guess a loss a snip snap. So the Michael Scott 698 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 2: theory is at play here. 699 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: You compared South Carolina to a vasectomy. 700 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 2: Nice, Well, what's their nickname? 701 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 1: Tie? There are the game? No right? 702 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,399 Speaker 2: Oh, Ty, you confidently walked into that one. So yes, 703 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 2: I am going with the Who's here, and I am 704 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 2: going to proudly and confidently declare that if you're going 705 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 2: to the Belk Bowl, go find yourself at Fudo Buddha 706 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 2: for Ramen. I've recommended it for acc championship games for 707 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 2: random games in Charlotte. It is some of the best 708 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,439 Speaker 2: ramen I've ever had. Great Brussels sprouts, get some sam 709 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,959 Speaker 2: and Nigherri. It's it's a wonderful, wonderful meal. Go there, 710 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 2: and I hope by now I can get a free 711 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 2: meal for promoting it as much as I have. 712 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,959 Speaker 1: The Nova Home Alone's Arizona Bowl Den. 713 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, what are they walking away with? 714 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: Tie? Walking away with a ghost Tech backpack with a 715 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 1: power bank in external USB port. That's the dream, right. 716 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: You also get Beats buds, which is very tough to say. 717 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 1: I'm assuming those are wireless earbuds. Okay, you get a 718 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 1: fire Kindle with the built in Alexa Dan, just for you. 719 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: You lost me after Kindle itself is good. The hydro flask, 720 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: the cooling towel, and Freedom lay products in each bag. Dan. 721 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, ty. In terms of the not 722 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 2: major bowl games, you're walking away with a backpack that 723 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,240 Speaker 2: charges your things, your phones and electronics. 724 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: Which, by the way, I don't think you can take 725 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: on planes. But that's neither here nor there, is that true? 726 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 1: I think? So? 727 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, So you can take a backpack and you can 728 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 2: take a power bank, but you can't take one with 729 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 2: it built in. 730 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: You can't do it in luggage when it's built into luggage. 731 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: So I'm assuming that extends too interesting. 732 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you get headphones, you get your kindle. You could 733 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 2: probably turn off Alexa. By the way, I by the 734 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 2: fact that we just said that name. I apologize if 735 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 2: that activated something in your living room. If you're listening 736 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 2: to this show on a speaker, you get hydration and 737 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 2: you get chips. 738 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: TI. 739 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 2: I am going to shout out the Arizona Bowl for 740 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 2: doing things right down in. 741 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: Tucson, Tucson. That's right at Arizona Stadium. It's between Arkansas 742 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: State at eight and four Nevada seven and five. Arkansas 743 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: State a slight one and a half point favorite the 744 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 1: Red Wolves DAN. They've won their last four games. Statistically, 745 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: they are the better team, especially on offense. I don't 746 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: have a high degree of confidence in this one, but 747 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: I do like Arkansas State, So give me the Red 748 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: Wolves to the tune of seven confidence points here. 749 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, both of these teams played arguably their easiest stretch 750 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,439 Speaker 2: in November. Stretches in November. I thought Arkansas State showed 751 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:49,479 Speaker 2: out a little bit better than. 752 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: Nevada, Nevada, Nevada. 753 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 2: I'm going to get mail. Yeah, the red Wolves held 754 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,760 Speaker 2: everybody they played under twenty points in November. I I'm 755 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,399 Speaker 2: going to take Arkansas eight, even though Blake Anderson's Bowl 756 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 2: record has not been the best, but still give me 757 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:05,839 Speaker 2: the Red Wolves here. 758 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: Moving on to the Military Bowl presented by Northrop Grumming. Yeah, 759 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: I mean I don't have it. I don't think I 760 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,359 Speaker 1: have a Tucson No. No. 761 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,919 Speaker 2: Two recommendation. There's probably an in and out there that's good. 762 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: They play this one at Memorial Stadium, Innnapolis, Maryland. It's 763 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: on Monday, the thirty first. It is New Year's Eve? Dan, 764 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: What are you doing for New Year's Eve? We've talked 765 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: about this, haven't we. 766 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 2: I know we're both not We're both a thousand years 767 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 2: old and not believers in New Year's Eve. You just 768 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,800 Speaker 2: like get an s faced at home alone. 769 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: I know, of course, Cincinnati ten and two, Virginia Tech 770 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: six and six, Bearcat's six point favorite. Listen, Okay, how 771 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: many eyes are and listen? Somebody asked us that it's 772 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: at least at least five. Yeah, that's I'm in the 773 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: back of my head. I'm saying it with five. You 774 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: never want to look a gift horse in the mouth. 775 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: M h. I'm as big a fan of free stuff 776 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: as anybody here, certainly free electronics, certainly devices that deliver 777 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 1: stunning seven twenty P picture quality. 778 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 2: Dan okay, but. 779 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: I looked up, of course, you did the Dell mobile 780 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: projector M thirty one p eight WL that is being 781 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: awarded for being a participant in this bowl matchup, the 782 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: Military Bowl, And I just this is the kind of 783 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: thing that you rent when you accidentally pick the wrong 784 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: conference room that doesn't have a projector is it garbage? 785 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: Why in the world would you want this thing? 786 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 2: Why what makes it not appealing? 787 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: Well, first off, they're making ones now that are really small, 788 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 1: like the size of a coke can. 789 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 2: Yes, I've seen those, and I think ones. 790 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: That deliver better picture quality. This is like a deluxe 791 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,359 Speaker 1: office projector that you would see at any conference room 792 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 1: in any corporation or any small business in America. So 793 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 1: if you were taking like. 794 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 2: A some sort of course in an office, like if 795 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 2: you were doing a like a sexual harassment seminar, that's right, 796 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 2: there would be slides popping up on this M three 797 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 2: to eighteen WL that's correct. 798 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't understand it. Okay, they also get them 799 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 1: one hundred dollars a mix gift card, I Slide Sandals 800 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: Houll Eye slide. Hey, all right, does this seem to 801 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: you like a mismatcher? Is it just me? I mean? 802 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 2: I like Cincinnati here because of their defense. Virginia Tech 803 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 2: was pretty clearly and consistently below average. 804 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,280 Speaker 1: They finished the season. 805 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 2: They actually win their last couple games, but one of 806 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 2: that it's the Virginia game, which is a great win 807 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 2: every year obviously for the Hokies and Marshall, which now 808 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,359 Speaker 2: it's a Bowl winning team. So two decent enough wins, 809 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 2: but they lose four in a row before that. Cincinnati 810 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 2: finishes the season winning four or five, I believe, and 811 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 2: their biggest loss was to the twenty seventeen National champion, 812 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,399 Speaker 2: So hard to really fault the Bearcats there. So I'm 813 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 2: going to Cincinnati. I think they move the ball well 814 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 2: enough on offense and really just an electric defense. Not 815 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 2: a good formula for the Hokies here in what Annapolis. 816 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: Annapolis Maryland Memorial Stadium. Yeah, you're right, Cincinnati, they're way 817 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 1: better on defense. They're super young, which I always like 818 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 1: in a Bowl setting twenty eight confidence points. Give me 819 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,399 Speaker 1: the Bearcats. Do you like that? 820 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 2: This is the that Northrop Grumman is presented after the 821 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,439 Speaker 2: bowl name, So it's clear that it's like, you don't 822 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 2: have to call it the Northrop Grumman Military because that 823 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 2: feels very icky, and so they change the wording arounds. 824 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,839 Speaker 1: Probably smart. That's what they do with the Rose Bowl. 825 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: There are a couple other games like that too. 826 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense those but I think those are 827 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 2: for the prestige of not having Visio or whoever's doing 828 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl now before the Visio Rose Bowl. But 829 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 2: this is it feels different. 830 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,439 Speaker 1: Let's go to the Hyundai Sun Bowl. 831 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 2: Dan don't have food RECs in Anapolis. 832 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: Just never been Monday, New Year's Eve, CBS. Pitt is 833 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: back in this game. I can't believe it. 834 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 2: Of course they are. Did you see the Oral History? 835 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 1: I saw the Oral History. Oh it's wonderful, wonderfully done. 836 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 1: Stanford is eight and four, Pitt is seven and six, 837 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 1: The Cardinal is six and a half point favorite. Here 838 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 1: they get a gift suite a time. We watch a 839 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 1: Majestic Fleece pullover and Ogo Excelsior backpack, an under armour 840 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 1: cap in a coin. Okay, of note here, Bryce Love 841 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 1: not playing for the Cardinal. Pitt is not good, Dan, 842 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 1: They are not good, but they do get up for 843 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 1: big games and Stanford, as you know, is just very average. 844 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 1: Does Pit get up for big games this season? Work 845 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 1: with me here, okay, please, because I just work with 846 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 1: me Dan recently. Somebody's got to get ratings for this 847 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 1: game for CBS. Okay, you would think, but this is 848 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: going to play to Stanford's favor because Pitt's stinks on 849 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: offense and they just want a run, run, run, run, run. 850 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 1: Stanford's usually pretty good at defending the run, except for 851 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: this year. They're not as good this year as they 852 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,320 Speaker 1: have been in the past. I am going to go Cardinal. 853 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: I still think they're a lot more consistent. Even though 854 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: they weren't their usual self this season. There really aren't 855 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:26,839 Speaker 1: any bad losses on the resume, so provided Pitt doesn't 856 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: pull a rabbit out of its at Stanford twenty one 857 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 1: confidence points. 858 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:36,359 Speaker 2: I have Stanford as well. My confidence level is it 859 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 2: appears eighteen, so we're pretty Simpotti Couch, we agree, And 860 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 2: first of all, I could use an Ohio backpack. I 861 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 2: know you've been very happy with yours, right, very happy. Okay, 862 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 2: So I'm always in the market, not a sponsor, not 863 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 2: a sponsor, not a sponsor. I would say to your 864 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 2: point that Pitt plays for games. They still lost to 865 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 2: Miami and Clemson combined sixty six to thirteen. 866 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,359 Speaker 1: So there's there's that. 867 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,399 Speaker 2: I've been cramping up towards the finish line. They're that 868 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 2: the Gatorade commercial guy who is really just struggling the 869 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 2: Stanford rush defense against Pitt's running attack and two really 870 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 2: good running backs. Is okay, But this Cardinal team wins 871 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 2: and loses through the air. If you're gonna beat Stanford, 872 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 2: you got to be able to throw. If you are 873 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 2: going to lose to Stanford, it's probably because you cannot 874 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 2: jump as high as their trees out wide can jump. 875 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 2: I just Pit ain't that team. So I'm going with 876 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 2: the Cardinal here. 877 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: And finally on today and H eh and h eh 878 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 1: and h H and H and. 879 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 2: L pass so I believe is a car wash and 880 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 2: a text Mes place, breakfast and lunch go to there. 881 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: Finally on today's show the Red Box Bowl, Dan Yes 882 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 1: play this one in Levi Stadium in Santa Clara. It 883 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 1: is between your Oregon Ducks at eight and four and 884 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 1: the Michigan State Spartans at seven and five, also on 885 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 1: New Year's Eve. This one is on Fox. I have 886 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 1: a question for you, a very real question, and it 887 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 1: does not pertain to this game, As with all my 888 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 1: burning questions this time of year, it pertains to the 889 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: gift package here. 890 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:14,280 Speaker 2: I'm ready. 891 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 1: So they get a fossil watch, they get a Timbuck 892 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 1: two backpack, they get headphones, they get other assorted red 893 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 1: Box Bowl merchandise. They get a Roku. They also get 894 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,840 Speaker 1: a Roku dan, which I find puzzling because red Box 895 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,359 Speaker 1: is one of those machines outside of the grocery store 896 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 1: where you go and you get your DVD in a 897 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,360 Speaker 1: little cardboard envelope, you go home, you pop it in 898 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 1: the DVD player, and that's how you watch your movies. 899 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:48,320 Speaker 1: Roku seemingly is a competitor of some kind to red Box. 900 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 1: Roku is built around the streaming economy. So wouldn't it 901 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:57,120 Speaker 1: sort of put themselves out of business to offer a 902 00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:01,439 Speaker 1: free Roku to the participants of your own Bowl game. Tie. 903 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 2: I've done some research these last eight seconds while you 904 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 2: were speaking, So listen, Liz, red Box is making the 905 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 2: move to streaming, okay, red Box hasn't half available on 906 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 2: the Roku okay, where you can stream movies. I assume 907 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 2: you pay like your whatever two bucks to have it 908 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 2: for twenty four hours and then it'll self implode or 909 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,800 Speaker 2: whatever happens digitally. So that's what's happening with red Box 910 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 2: and Roku for anybody interested and perhaps does not have 911 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,879 Speaker 2: one of those machines in a supermarket near them. 912 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 1: I was worried that red Box was going to go 913 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 1: the way a Blockbuster here and that this Bowl game 914 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 1: was going to be renamed after one or two years. 915 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,760 Speaker 2: Did blockbust Blockbuster at a streaming service for a minute. 916 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 2: I think they tried, but it was they tried when Netflix. 917 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 2: When Netflix started denting the market and Blockbuster physical brick 918 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 2: and mortar stores started closing. Blockbuster definitely tried to get 919 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 2: in on that, and it was too late. It was 920 00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:58,799 Speaker 2: just too late. 921 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 1: They play this one in Levi Stadium a full week 922 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 1: before the National Championship, so it's sort of like the 923 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,920 Speaker 1: JV game. And I say that lovingly towards your Oregon 924 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 1: Ducks and Michigan State Spartans. What is your readout on 925 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,240 Speaker 1: this game. I tried to look up if Brian Lilwork 926 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,879 Speaker 1: he's gonna play. It's still a little bit unclear where 927 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:20,840 Speaker 1: do you come down in this game. 928 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 2: These two teams actually recently had a home and home, 929 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 2: right They played both I think fourteen and fifteen Vernon 930 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,799 Speaker 2: Adams game in fifteen twenty fourteen with Mariota, so they're 931 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 2: familiar with each other, Big Pich. I don't know how 932 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,840 Speaker 2: many players in the game actually played in those games. 933 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,719 Speaker 2: But Oregon finishes the season winning three of four. A 934 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 2: lighter ish sort of November, they looked mostly okay, but 935 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 2: had the ability to generate some bigger plays. Certainly Justin 936 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 2: Herbert and Dylan Mitchell have an impressive connection. Defensively took 937 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 2: a step back this year. Michigan State finishes the year 938 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 2: losing two of three, and in those games averaged and 939 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 2: ty I busted out a calculator for this one. Yeah, 940 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 2: if you can count to eight point six, you know 941 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,319 Speaker 2: the answer. There was some gnarly weather involved, definitely at 942 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,400 Speaker 2: the end of Michigan State season, but they weren't scoring 943 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,359 Speaker 2: all that much before then, so obviously the height of 944 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,799 Speaker 2: Michigan State's here was winning at Penn State. In a 945 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 2: game that should be buried into the Earth's core. It 946 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 2: was not a fun watch, really not great. So Michigan 947 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:30,839 Speaker 2: State with a good defense, for sure is it's tough 948 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,919 Speaker 2: to bet against them against an inconsistent team. But I'm 949 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 2: going to because the Sparti offense is capable and has 950 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 2: shown itself to be basically fully inept shown itself to be. 951 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 1: One hundred and fourteenth in the nation. Yes, quarterback questionable. 952 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,839 Speaker 2: I know they're missing their best corner on defense who 953 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,319 Speaker 2: declared early and will be skipping this game. You know, 954 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 2: all the pageantry of the Red Bull aside. I'm taking Oregon. 955 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,360 Speaker 2: They should have the better crowd if they can actually 956 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,359 Speaker 2: get to Santa Clara. If anybody going to this game 957 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 2: is in San Francisco, grab a pizza at Del Popolo. 958 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 2: It's actually my I think it's my Twitter header picture. 959 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 2: It was great, really good small plates as well. I 960 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 2: feel like a good sun choke something along those lines. 961 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 1: Son, what sun choke? A sun choke? What the hell 962 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,360 Speaker 1: is a sun choke? Do you not know? What? Have 963 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 1: you never had a sun choke? 964 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 2: I think. 965 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,400 Speaker 1: Sunchoke is a vegetable. It's a. 966 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 2: It might be related to it's like a trying to fit. 967 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 2: It sort of looks like maybe a you know what 968 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,759 Speaker 2: a ginger root looks like, so like very earthy. Sure, 969 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 2: I want to say, yeah, I think it's it's in 970 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,400 Speaker 2: the It's an artichoke cousin and they they fried it 971 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 2: up when I went there last year and it was 972 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,240 Speaker 2: it was outstanding. So Del Popolo was a good pizza 973 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 2: option in San Francisco. I'm going with Oregon here. My 974 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 2: confidence level is I think around eight points. I will 975 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 2: verify right now. My confidence level for this game is 976 00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 2: eleven points for Oregon. 977 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 1: I've I've got Oregon. I've got six points on it. 978 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 2: Okay, I think that's about anything more than fifteen seems 979 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 2: like a stretch. 980 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 1: We agree, So there you go. It is Bold preview 981 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,479 Speaker 1: number four, our playoff preview number one. I guess number 982 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 1: one and two if you want to get technical with it. 983 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,279 Speaker 1: I am very excited for this playoff matchup. For those 984 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,360 Speaker 1: of you who are on the Twitter, we will be 985 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 1: live tweeting this. I will be from my account so 986 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,840 Speaker 1: as not to alienate our non Notre Dame fans and 987 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 1: follow the solverbal account, but I will be watching this 988 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,360 Speaker 1: game with Mama Age probably about five minutes in breathing 989 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,680 Speaker 1: into a paper bag, which is what we usually do. 990 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 1: But if you're interested in live tweeting as the game's 991 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 1: going on, please look me up. 992 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 2: Okay, because this is not the longest show we've ever done, right, No, 993 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:52,880 Speaker 2: I don't know how what are we at? Like forty 994 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,560 Speaker 2: five to fifty minutes? Somewhere in that zone. 995 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:55,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're at. 996 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:59,319 Speaker 2: Fifty six okay, because you sort of cut me off 997 00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 2: as I was Christmas plans, because that's still in the 998 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 2: future from when we're posting this show. 999 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 1: That Yes, yes, we're still in the four and a 1000 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:09,280 Speaker 1: half dimension. 1001 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, So this show will be posted on Sunday 1002 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,879 Speaker 2: the twenty third, so two days out of Christmas, unless 1003 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 2: there's like a nuclear holocaust, which you know what, glad 1004 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,279 Speaker 2: we could go down with you sure. First of all, 1005 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 2: because you mentioned you're gonna be watching the playoff with Mama. 1006 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 1: H is that is solid? Wife Kate? 1007 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,320 Speaker 2: Any like cousins, Uncle Joe. What is the full watching 1008 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,959 Speaker 2: situation plan for the playoff and games on that day? 1009 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,320 Speaker 1: We have not made full plans at this moment, okay, 1010 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 1: but all I know right now the bedrock of the 1011 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:45,280 Speaker 1: watch situation will be me up at Mama H's yelling 1012 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 1: at the TV with her. 1013 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,759 Speaker 2: Will you make a request meatballs, Canoli's, anything like that? 1014 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,720 Speaker 2: Is there a lucky food? You're superstitious. I am superstitious, 1015 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,760 Speaker 2: and you get some of that coal fire pizza. 1016 00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 1: I could do the coal fire pizza. Say the superstition, 1017 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 1: though that I quickly ditched after. I think the last 1018 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,239 Speaker 1: two years I had an old Brady Quinn jersey that 1019 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,719 Speaker 1: I would put on sometimes to try and wake up 1020 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,600 Speaker 1: the echoes. It never really worked, so I stopped doing 1021 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 1: that this year, and now they're twelve and zero. You 1022 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 1: know what you probably need. You probably need a half 1023 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 1: Brady Quinn right, the Laura Quinn jersey. You need the 1024 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,759 Speaker 1: Laura Quinn jersey for him luck Okay, but no, no 1025 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 1: situation beyond that. I would imagine that you and Jody 1026 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 1: with and I have crazy plans for the Red Box Bowl. 1027 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:32,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to Buckingham Palace. 1028 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:33,360 Speaker 1: Okay. 1029 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,880 Speaker 2: Now I think we're actually eating an early New Year's 1030 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,239 Speaker 2: Eve dinner out in the middle of that game, and 1031 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 2: I don't know if I care all. Now I think 1032 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,320 Speaker 2: I'm okay with that. I think I'm okay with catching 1033 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:48,840 Speaker 2: up on the second half later for the playoff itself 1034 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,879 Speaker 2: for Saturday. So that's a really should be at least 1035 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 2: at times a fun Saturday of games. It starts at 1036 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,000 Speaker 2: noon Florida, Michigan, so we'll be watching that. I'll make 1037 00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,439 Speaker 2: my dip that I make I made it last year, 1038 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 2: So this will be like a taco meat onions, cilantro, 1039 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 2: maybe a chipotle puree, melt some cheese on top, get 1040 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 2: some tortilla chips. Really really dig into what's the twenty ninth? 1041 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:12,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? These games nin? Okay? 1042 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 2: As for New Year's Eve, Yeah, we're gonna get some 1043 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 2: get some dinner with some friends, and early on they 1044 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,359 Speaker 2: have kids. So that's that's the plan then, which brings 1045 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 2: us to this tie Christmas. Yeah, have you done any 1046 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,280 Speaker 2: more shopping since we last spoke? 1047 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,960 Speaker 1: No? I haven't. I haven't done it. Dan. 1048 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 2: Do you know do you have an idea of what 1049 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:40,719 Speaker 2: you're going to do? You're doing this? Where where is 1050 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 2: the where's the celebration happening? 1051 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: The celebration on Christmas Eve will be up at mom H's, okay, 1052 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,160 Speaker 1: and Christmas Day. Christmas Day will be down with solid 1053 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:54,319 Speaker 1: wife Kate's family. But I will say that there's a 1054 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 1: lot of shopping that remains presumably solid. Wife Kate and 1055 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 1: I will be knocking it out. Perhaps are you doing 1056 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 1: it all online? I can't do it online at this point. 1057 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 1: I know, how do you do in malls? How do 1058 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:07,440 Speaker 1: I do in malls? 1059 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? Are you patients? 1060 00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,640 Speaker 1: No? Okay, no, no? No? 1061 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,960 Speaker 2: Are there any Christmas traditions? Meals treats? I mean you 1062 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 2: told me the seven fishes, We do the seven fishes. 1063 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,440 Speaker 2: That's the Yeah, that's sort of the tradition. But will 1064 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,680 Speaker 2: there be little kids around? They'll be a lot genuinely excited. 1065 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure. 1066 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 2: If you had to lay odds right now on somebody 1067 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 2: between ages of two and eight, which is prime age 1068 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,879 Speaker 2: for this, receiving a power Wheels, is there at least 1069 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:36,400 Speaker 2: a chance? 1070 00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 1: I mean, there's always a chance for power wheels. Let's 1071 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,640 Speaker 1: be not for me, not. 1072 00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,839 Speaker 2: From me, I think, I know, I understand, not from you, 1073 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,879 Speaker 2: but just in terms of like it's within the realm 1074 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 2: of possibility that somebody gets a little kid of power wheels. 1075 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 1: For Chris, there's always at the least day five percent 1076 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 1: chance that a little kid's going to get a power Wheels. 1077 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,400 Speaker 2: I may have mentioned this years ago, but in terms 1078 00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:01,840 Speaker 2: of sub genres of YouTube videos. Kid power wheel bloopers 1079 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:09,279 Speaker 2: are elite time the best. So I'm hoping for that 1080 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 2: for you because I will not be celebrating anything with 1081 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 2: any little kids. So I am putting that goodwill on 1082 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 2: your shoulders. 1083 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,800 Speaker 1: I will do my best to shop to buy my presence. 1084 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:21,760 Speaker 1: The ultimate inspiration is the deadline. 1085 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,560 Speaker 2: Okay, do you do any baking, any gingerbread cookies, gingerbread 1086 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,719 Speaker 2: house peppermint cookies of some kind? 1087 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:30,560 Speaker 1: No, No, nothing like that. 1088 00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,759 Speaker 2: Well, Kate, been too busy studying for these games, Dan, 1089 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,359 Speaker 2: I know, and your dental work is all in order. 1090 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:39,480 Speaker 1: My dental work's okay. 1091 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:43,280 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, okay, good, What a time to be alive. 1092 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 1: So just to just to just to I don't know 1093 00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,960 Speaker 1: what that meant. I don't know why that's so funny. 1094 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,320 Speaker 1: I don't either. Just to recap. 1095 00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,800 Speaker 2: We've got the Red Box Bowl, We've got the Sun Bowl, 1096 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:04,560 Speaker 2: We've got the Military Ball, We've got the Arizona belk 1097 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,080 Speaker 2: peach orange cotton. 1098 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 1: Did you say the did you say the h You 1099 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 1: said the Red Box Bowl? Okay, yes, I said the 1100 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,959 Speaker 1: red I'm gonna download that app when we get done here. Yeah, 1101 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,040 Speaker 1: poke around, see what's what not a sponsor for that 1102 00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,920 Speaker 1: guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubert stein Pour, 1103 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,000 Speaker 1: myself Tie Hilton Brand. Thanks again for tuning in. We'll 1104 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,040 Speaker 1: catch you all soon. In the meantime, stay solid, peace,