WEBVTT - The Girlfriends S5/E4: Stolen Valor

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<v Speaker 1>Novel Last Time on the Girlfriends Trust Me Babe, Derek

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<v Speaker 1>Aldred skips town.

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<v Speaker 2>They let him go, and he then disappeared again.

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa, our hockey loving mom in Minnesota, tries to put

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<v Speaker 1>the past behind her. I'd forget about it for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>and then another texta come only Now there's been a

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<v Speaker 1>new update, this time from Texas. It's spring twenty seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>and a woman named Dorry has an exciting date with

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<v Speaker 1>a guy she met online, Richie Taylor.

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<v Speaker 3>He asked me to go to the Ranger game, Texas's

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<v Speaker 3>major League baseball team.

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<v Speaker 1>He's pretty tall, nice smile, close cropped hair, flies jets

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<v Speaker 1>in the Navy, teaches at the university nearby. It's their

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<v Speaker 1>second date.

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<v Speaker 3>We pulled into a fifty dollars parking lot and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not paying fifty dollars to perk.

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<v Speaker 1>Dorry is the one behind the wheel, but Richie insists

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<v Speaker 1>he claims to have a receipt that should get them

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<v Speaker 1>in for free.

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<v Speaker 2>So I pull in.

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<v Speaker 3>We get up to the guy and he's ready to

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<v Speaker 3>collect the fifty dollars. Richie says, you know, hold on

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<v Speaker 3>him in. I've got a receipt.

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<v Speaker 1>Dorry the guy at the ticket booth and a steadily

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<v Speaker 1>increasing line of cars weight while Richie fruitlessly searches through

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<v Speaker 1>his phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing, nothing, nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>In the course of his searching, Richie flashes a badge

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<v Speaker 1>to the ticket booth guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He always showed his NCAAs.

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<v Speaker 1>Bad The badge is gold, it's shiny, it's got an

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<v Speaker 1>eagle on it. It signifies that Richie, now furiously scrolling

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<v Speaker 1>through his emails, is also a law enforcement officer in

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<v Speaker 1>the Naval Criminal Investigative Service. No less.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the crowd is getting huge, the game's going

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<v Speaker 3>to start. You're not gonna sit there and wait for

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<v Speaker 3>this guy to find this email. What's the guy going

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<v Speaker 3>to do? And finally the guy just goes, just go.

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<v Speaker 3>So we got parking for free.

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<v Speaker 1>And the special treatment doesn't end there. Once they're parked up,

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<v Speaker 1>they head to the stadium box office.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes up there and he says, I'm Captain rich Taylor,

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<v Speaker 3>Corporal Let's see Jan Smith left tickets for us. Here

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<v Speaker 3>they go and look, you can't find anything, and he

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<v Speaker 3>starts getting louder and louder.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll have guests by now, Richie Taylor isn't the jet

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<v Speaker 1>flying college professor slash naval investigator. He's making himself out

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<v Speaker 1>to be. This is actually just plain old Derek Aldred

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<v Speaker 1>appearing to chuck a tantrum for free tickets to a

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<v Speaker 1>baseball game. But Dorri doesn't know that yet.

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<v Speaker 3>He's getting angry and making a scene.

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<v Speaker 1>This kind of identity fraud the kind Derek or Dread

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<v Speaker 1>seems to keep getting away with. It's hard to investigate,

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<v Speaker 1>hard to catch, hard to prove, and it's hard to prosecute,

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<v Speaker 1>never mind successfully. But what really helps is when the

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<v Speaker 1>person doing it makes a mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>Finally, they just gave us two tickets.

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<v Speaker 1>And Derek's made a big one.

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<v Speaker 2>We were there for quite a while and it's an

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<v Speaker 2>ki Emera.

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<v Speaker 1>Messing with Dorry won't prove to be one of Derek

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<v Speaker 1>or Dread's smartest moves either.

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<v Speaker 3>I vowed I will be his last target. I can

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<v Speaker 3>stab him.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Anna Sinfield and from the teams at Novel and

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<v Speaker 1>iHeart Podcasts. You're listening to the girlfriends Trust Me Babe,

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<v Speaker 1>episode four Stolen Bala.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to laugh because you know what I just

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<v Speaker 2>found in my hair?

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<v Speaker 1>A drill. When we first speak to Dorry, she's tucked

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<v Speaker 1>off on a gray sofa in her apartment on the

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<v Speaker 1>outskirts of Dallas, Texas. There's a cinnamon scented candle burning

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<v Speaker 1>and she's plucking a single, small, flat bottomed crystal out

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<v Speaker 1>of her hair. In the diamond art world, these glittering

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<v Speaker 1>little beads are cold drills.

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<v Speaker 2>My diamond art was in my hair.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what is this? It's from my beating in

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<v Speaker 1>her spare time. Dorry likes to do diamond art.

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<v Speaker 3>You take these little beads and put them on this

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<v Speaker 3>sticky canvas and it makes a picture. My anxiety is

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<v Speaker 3>still very high, and I'm telling you what I can

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<v Speaker 3>get into that diamond painting, and it's just takes my

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<v Speaker 3>anxiety away.

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<v Speaker 1>By twenty seventeen, Dorry had survived a tough divorce, and

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<v Speaker 1>through the pain of that breakup, she was carving out

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<v Speaker 1>a new version of herself.

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<v Speaker 2>Suddenly it was like, you know, what does Dory like

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<v Speaker 2>to do?

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<v Speaker 1>Self? Sufficient, artistic independent.

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<v Speaker 3>I learned that I'm extremely crafty. I made wreaths and

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<v Speaker 3>crochet and crustach.

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<v Speaker 1>But don't get he wrong. She contains multitudes.

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<v Speaker 3>I have my license to carry, so I can carry

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<v Speaker 3>my gun at anytime.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Texas. After all, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Was feeling good about myself. I was looking good. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>everything was going right for me.

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<v Speaker 2>At that time. I felt, let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>So Dori decides to add dating into.

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<v Speaker 3>The mix vexing and I met Richie. I still can't

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<v Speaker 3>stop calling him Richie.

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<v Speaker 1>When she first meets Richie Taylor, she's working in HR,

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<v Speaker 1>loving her job, and living just outside of Dallas in

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<v Speaker 1>a place called the Colony.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a big town but has a very small town feel.

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<v Speaker 3>It probably could be like a Norman Rockwell painting.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm now picturing a Norman Rockwell in diamond art, a

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<v Speaker 1>nostalgic picture book idealized America, but with dating apps.

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<v Speaker 3>I can remember his name and plenty of fish. Was

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<v Speaker 3>Flyboy because he pretended to be a pilot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a story you've heard before. Their first date is magic.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like my stomach dropped in a good way

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<v Speaker 2>that this.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy is a pilot in the Navy. It's hugely appealing

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<v Speaker 1>for one reason.

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<v Speaker 2>My grandpa was in the Navy.

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<v Speaker 3>I almost trusted him a little more, opened up a

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<v Speaker 3>little more.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm hearing about.

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<v Speaker 3>This guy who flies jets, and he's telling me all

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<v Speaker 3>these big stories. I can distinctly remember one time he

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<v Speaker 3>put on his dress blues, his formal navy uniform, and

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<v Speaker 3>there was a couple of times he wore his flight

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<v Speaker 3>suit too. He had the helmet with the microphone on it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was impressed by him, and so they kept dating.

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<v Speaker 2>He's telling me he loves me left and right.

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<v Speaker 1>But soon the cracks begin to appear, like Richie's quick temper,

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<v Speaker 1>but the fact that he wasn't very reliable. He'd be

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<v Speaker 1>on his phone a lot or hit cancel on that

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<v Speaker 1>dates last minute.

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<v Speaker 3>At first I took it personally. I thought, well, he's

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<v Speaker 3>not interested in me. He explained it was because of

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<v Speaker 3>this military things going on and he needed to fly

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<v Speaker 3>to Washington. This is around when the Korean Crisis was

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<v Speaker 3>going on the new level.

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<v Speaker 2>Of threats and provocations from North Korea. Just hours ago,

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<v Speaker 2>the regime carried out a large scale artillery drilled just

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred miles from Soeul, South Korea.

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<v Speaker 4>Experts say that Kim jongling seems to be sending a message.

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<v Speaker 1>It was frustrating. It's kind of hard to hold it

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<v Speaker 1>against a guy who's just trying to prevent nuclear destruction.

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<v Speaker 1>But then Dorry receives a sign that's quite hard to ignore.

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<v Speaker 1>One day, mid April, Richie is over at Dorry's townhouse.

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<v Speaker 1>They're in the living room when her phone pings.

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<v Speaker 3>So I checked my phone and it said that just

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<v Speaker 3>to let you know you're withdrawals coming up for your

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<v Speaker 3>credit card.

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<v Speaker 1>The number on her credit card statement sends Dorian to shock.

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<v Speaker 3>Holy Moses, I don't come near that much every month.

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<v Speaker 3>It was close to eight thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>How did it get that high? Dorry logs in to

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<v Speaker 1>analyze the charges, gift cards, flowers, Airbnbs, eBay purchases.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't me don't even buy anything from ebabe.

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<v Speaker 3>Richie sitting on the couch and I'm standing by the

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<v Speaker 3>door and I'm just looking at him with my mouth like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my gosh, somebody's got in a hold of my number.

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<v Speaker 2>And he said, do you want me to pay it

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<v Speaker 2>for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Dorry panics. Richie goes over to the computer attempts

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<v Speaker 1>to make a payment into Dorry's account. Huge surprising coming.

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<v Speaker 3>He attempted to send it three times and it did

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<v Speaker 3>not go through immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>Dorry calls her bank cancels the card, but until the

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<v Speaker 1>bank processes her complaint, she has to pay it off.

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<v Speaker 1>Dorry gets a new card, and as the days go by,

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<v Speaker 1>she pays much closer attention to her payments.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw it happening again right away.

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<v Speaker 1>She stares at the payments. She can't figure out how

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<v Speaker 1>it's happening again.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't realize it was him yet till I got

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<v Speaker 3>ahold of the iPad.

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<v Speaker 1>Soon after that started dating Richie old story if he

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<v Speaker 1>could borrow her iPad. She didn't use it much and

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<v Speaker 1>he could really use it for his college work.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, no problem.

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<v Speaker 1>After that, Dory doesn't see her iPad for a while

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<v Speaker 1>until one night she's up late watching television, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>when she spots it.

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<v Speaker 2>He had left the iPad my iPad. I picked it up.

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<v Speaker 3>I opened it up, and I was shocked to see

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<v Speaker 3>that the picture was changed.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a passcode on it.

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<v Speaker 3>I had seen the passcode he had put in his phone,

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<v Speaker 3>so I tried the same passcode on my iPad and

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<v Speaker 3>I got in. Everything was changed. I'm thinking, where are

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<v Speaker 3>my pictures at? So I went to pictures and I

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<v Speaker 3>hit it. All his pictures from his iCloud had downloaded.

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<v Speaker 1>One of those pictures is Richie lying in a hospital bed.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got the blue pillow, the blue blankets pulled up

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<v Speaker 3>to him. He's smiling taking a picture. There's hospital equipment

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<v Speaker 3>behind him. And at the bottom it said a big

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<v Speaker 3>thank you for everyone's prayers and support. Surgery was a success.

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<v Speaker 3>Should be out of the hospital Monday. And the name

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<v Speaker 3>on the picture was Derek m Allred. I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 3>this and I'm like, that is Richie. I go over

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<v Speaker 3>to my computer and I googled Derek Alred.

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<v Speaker 1>Google doesn't recognize that name, but it makes a helpful suggestion.

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<v Speaker 2>It said, did you mean Derek Aldread?

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<v Speaker 1>She sure did.

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<v Speaker 3>All of a sudden, like six to nine mug shots

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<v Speaker 3>popped up. Everything in me stopped, like my heart just

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely stopped. All these things in the past that were

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<v Speaker 3>not adding up everything, everything started making sense.

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<v Speaker 1>All those eBay purchases, the gift cards, flowers, Airbnb chargers,

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<v Speaker 1>those were all Derek. Her credit card had been sitting

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<v Speaker 1>next to her computer for weeks. She'd left it there

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<v Speaker 1>to remind herself to get the names on her cards

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<v Speaker 1>changed after her divorce.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how Richie got the card and I never noticed

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<v Speaker 3>it was gone.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like I got hit by a truck.

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<v Speaker 1>Attached to the mugshots were articles about a prolific cond

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<v Speaker 1>man with a habit of a skip justice, articles featuring

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<v Speaker 1>other women who claim they've been scammed by Derek.

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<v Speaker 2>I was terrified, is he going to come back here?

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<v Speaker 1>Dorry knows Derek's anger can escalate fast.

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<v Speaker 3>I leashed up my dogs, I moved my bookcase in

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<v Speaker 3>front of my door.

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<v Speaker 2>I went upstairs and got my gun and waited.

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<v Speaker 1>By the time sunrises, Dorry has been sitting wide awake,

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<v Speaker 1>gun on the table in front of her for hours.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been no sign of Derek.

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<v Speaker 3>The next morning, I got a hold of my brother

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<v Speaker 3>and I called him and told him what was going on.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, you know, pack your dogs and get out here.

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<v Speaker 3>My brother and his wife have a little ranch. I

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<v Speaker 3>hid out there for two days.

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<v Speaker 1>Dorry feels terrified of what Derek might do to her.

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<v Speaker 1>While she's in hiding, she has a chance to really

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<v Speaker 1>process what's happened.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where I.

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<v Speaker 3>Found out he had also gotten into my checking account.

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<v Speaker 3>I had my checkbook sitting out on my computer, so

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<v Speaker 3>I think he probably just snapped a picture of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I had another credit card he had gotten a

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<v Speaker 3>hold of too, so I uncovered a bunch of charges

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<v Speaker 3>on there too.

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<v Speaker 1>This was on top of the one she'd already noticed

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<v Speaker 1>and canceled.

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<v Speaker 3>In total, it was just under twenty thousand dollars that

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<v Speaker 3>he had gotten.

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<v Speaker 1>Dorry will get some of that money back by reporting

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<v Speaker 1>the fraudulent charges to her banks. Two of them will

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<v Speaker 1>refund her, but one bank refuses, meaning Dorry is still

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<v Speaker 1>out close to twelve thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>It was devastating, absolutely devastating to realize that ninety nine

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<v Speaker 3>point nine percent of the things that he told me

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<v Speaker 3>were false. They were absolutely all lies. I was embarrassed.

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<v Speaker 3>I was humiliated. I thought, how could this happen to me?

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<v Speaker 3>How could I have fallen for somebody that you know

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<v Speaker 3>lied from the get go?

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know. I'm like, why, God, why am

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<v Speaker 2>I going through this.

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<v Speaker 1>Dorry and her brother are sitting together on the deck

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<v Speaker 1>of his Texan ranch. Dorry hasn't spoken to Derek so

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<v Speaker 1>since she arrived.

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<v Speaker 3>My brother says, give me his phone number. So I said, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're sitting out there and we rang his phone

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<v Speaker 3>and Derek answers, and my brother says to him.

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<v Speaker 4>So.

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<v Speaker 2>Richie, Derek Taylor Peterson whatever we should call you. How's

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<v Speaker 2>it feel to.

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<v Speaker 3>Know that you've been caught? It felt great at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm laughing about it now, But at the time then

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, oh my gosh, what have we just done.

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<v Speaker 3>We have just told him that we know who he is.

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<v Speaker 3>We've just basically told.

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<v Speaker 2>Him, I know that you're a fraud.

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<v Speaker 1>This unlocks the new fear.

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<v Speaker 2>Is he going to come after me?

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<v Speaker 1>Dory knows from her reading that Derek has a habit

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<v Speaker 1>a skipping town when things get sticky. But what if

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<v Speaker 1>his m O changes.

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<v Speaker 3>And you hear all the time, Oh you know that's

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<v Speaker 3>one in a million. Oh that's not going to happen

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<v Speaker 3>to you.

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<v Speaker 1>That kind of thinking has lost all its power for

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<v Speaker 1>Dory in the law two days Suddenly, every fair, irrational

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<v Speaker 1>or not is in play.

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<v Speaker 2>Anything can happen to me, is what I think. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>She doesn't know what Derek could be capable of, who

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<v Speaker 1>might be helping him, and how.

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<v Speaker 3>You know he had ID cards for Army Navy Marines.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just so embarrassed that I had fallen, hook

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<v Speaker 3>line and sinker for somebody who probably didn't care two

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<v Speaker 3>pennies about me. Okay, I'm going to go in here

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<v Speaker 3>and tell the police that I just totally used and

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<v Speaker 3>fell for.

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<v Speaker 1>It, despite the feeling of embarrassment. The next day, Dorri

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<v Speaker 1>is sitting in her car in the parking lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the Colony police station.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd spent the weekend crying.

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<v Speaker 1>And now she's gearing herself up for a difficult compation.

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<v Speaker 1>Dorry's read all the same stories I've told you about.

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<v Speaker 3>I felt like I had every other girl, every other

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<v Speaker 3>person on my shoulder or behind me that he had wronged.

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<v Speaker 3>I felt I was representing all of them and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Had to do it right.

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<v Speaker 3>So I knew that I had one chance. This is serious,

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<v Speaker 3>Please take me seriously. I almost felt like I was

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<v Speaker 3>on a job interview.

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<v Speaker 1>Dorry works a nightshall and as a nighthall Girlie, she

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<v Speaker 1>knows better than most a first impression is everything.

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<v Speaker 3>I looked professional, so it didn't look like I crawled

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<v Speaker 3>out of bed after crying for three days.

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<v Speaker 2>I made sure I had my backup, my documentation.

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<v Speaker 1>Dorry opens up her card door, gets out and heads

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<v Speaker 1>into the station.

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<v Speaker 3>I explained briefly what I was there for, and they

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<v Speaker 3>put me in a room where I wrote out my statement.

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<v Speaker 3>What I've got had to be taken seriously and not

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<v Speaker 3>just oh gosh, another guy gets some money from a

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<v Speaker 3>girl and she's crying about it.

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<v Speaker 1>The Colony PD assigns a detective to Dorry's case.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I won the lottery.

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<v Speaker 3>She listened to me with different ears than a man

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<v Speaker 3>would have.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, Detective Kelly Hunt.

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<v Speaker 3>She was just what I needed, very calming. It's okay, Dory,

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<v Speaker 3>we hear you. We've got this.

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<v Speaker 1>When Detective Kelly meets Dorry in twenty seventeen, she's working

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<v Speaker 1>for the Colony PD as a fraud and financial crimes investigator,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's got enough experience to know that this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a hard case to get over the line,

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<v Speaker 1>but she says about investigating it anyway. She speaks to

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<v Speaker 1>a bartender at a local Irish themed bar mcswiggins, where

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<v Speaker 1>Richie appears to be a regular. She visits the local

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<v Speaker 1>grocery store just a doors down speaks to some of

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<v Speaker 1>the employees there. Both confirmed that Richie Taylor was using

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<v Speaker 1>a card that didn't have his name on it. One

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<v Speaker 1>clerk said he intended to question Richie on it, but

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<v Speaker 1>once he spotted that shiny gold NCIS badge, the guy

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<v Speaker 1>was toting around he dropped it. Both are able to

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<v Speaker 1>identify Richie as Derek Audred in a photo lineup. Detective

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly is getting close, but there's only so much a

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<v Speaker 1>local fraud investigator can do for a case like this.

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<v Speaker 1>She's one of a small handful of detectives servicing a

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<v Speaker 1>big community like over forty thousand people, and the pressure

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<v Speaker 1>is building to move on to one of the other

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<v Speaker 1>fifty or so cases waiting for her attention and let

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<v Speaker 1>the banks deal with it privately. But then Dorry arrives

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<v Speaker 1>at the police station with new evidence, her iPad and

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<v Speaker 1>a Duffelberg. The duffel bag is full of military uniforms. Luckily,

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<v Speaker 1>Derek had left an entire Hollywood costume department at Dorry's house.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a formal black jacket with gold stars and stripes

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<v Speaker 1>on the sleeves, two long sleeved jumpsuits green and khaki,

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<v Speaker 1>some black combat boots, a green flight helmet, and a

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<v Speaker 1>badge that shiny gold NCIS badge. As Detective Hunter is

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<v Speaker 1>sifting through these uniforms, she has an idea. Sure she

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<v Speaker 1>could nab Derek for credit card theft, but the Texas

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<v Speaker 1>penal code doesn't distinguish between a stranger stealing your credit

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<v Speaker 1>card and using it and a person who pretended to

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<v Speaker 1>be your boyfriend for weeks in order to steal it.

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<v Speaker 1>Those charges would barely touch the sides of the betrayal

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<v Speaker 1>Dorria's feeling, and it's not even clear that charging Derek

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<v Speaker 1>with that would result in any jail time, let alone

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<v Speaker 1>make it into a courtroom. If they even manage to

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<v Speaker 1>catch up with him, he could just claim that he

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<v Speaker 1>had Dorry's permission all along. If Detective Kelly wants to

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<v Speaker 1>help Dory get justice, she needs to take this case

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<v Speaker 1>up the ladder to someone with a bit more federal power,

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<v Speaker 1>and these uniforms are the key.

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<v Speaker 4>It was kind of like a cold call.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a Wednesday and Special Agent Mike Elcare is at

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<v Speaker 1>his office in Arlington, Texas when Detective Kelly Hunt gets

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<v Speaker 1>a hold of him.

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<v Speaker 4>She was really pitching me the keys on the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike works for the NCIS, as in, he actually works

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<v Speaker 1>for the Naval Criminal Investigative Service.

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<v Speaker 2>She reached out about Derek Aldred.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, listen, I kind of got this deal where we

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<v Speaker 4>have a guy and he's a kind of a fraudster.

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<v Speaker 1>Detective Kelly explains the investigation she's been doing into Derek

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<v Speaker 1>or Dread's jaunt around the colony, the money he appears

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<v Speaker 1>to have stolen from Dorry.

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<v Speaker 4>Just on the threshold alone, the monetary threshold, I would

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<v Speaker 4>say ninety to ninety five percent of agencies on the

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<v Speaker 4>federal level would probably have dismiss that.

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<v Speaker 1>She explains he's been pretending to be in the military,

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<v Speaker 1>the Navy specifically, and as she predicted, that detail catches

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<v Speaker 1>Mike's interest. The next day, Mike is at the colony

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<v Speaker 1>police department.

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<v Speaker 4>She invited me into the conference room. She kind of

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<v Speaker 4>had everything laid out on the table, and so I

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<v Speaker 4>think my first reaction was, what's.

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<v Speaker 1>That carefully arranged across the conference room table? Is the

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<v Speaker 1>evidence A.

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<v Speaker 4>Flight helmet, counterfeit, Geneva convention ID cards, the uniforms, the certificates,

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<v Speaker 4>anything of value that he left that said, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he was a captain in the navy, or he was

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<v Speaker 4>a professor, or any of these items that Dory had

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<v Speaker 4>in the house. And she gave that up.

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<v Speaker 1>And among them a badge.

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<v Speaker 4>A counterfeit and CIS badge that looked pretty darn real.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike takes out his own badge, gold looks like a

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<v Speaker 1>shield an eagle on the top and places it down

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<v Speaker 1>on the table next to Dereks.

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<v Speaker 4>It was darnyar identical. I think for the average person

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<v Speaker 4>you wouldn't know the difference if you saw that badge

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<v Speaker 4>and my badge at the time. Is he committing crimes

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<v Speaker 4>with that badge? Is he stopping women with that badge?

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<v Speaker 4>Is he assaulting people with that badge? Was immediately apparent

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<v Speaker 4>that likely this was going to be a bigger deal

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<v Speaker 4>than just some isolated local issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Together, Detective Kelly and Special Agent Mike can make this

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<v Speaker 1>into a case, one that catches all Derek's historical wrongdoing,

0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:21.480
<v Speaker 1>state based or otherwise, into one investigation.

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<v Speaker 4>We have resources, we can travel, we can conduct interviews,

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<v Speaker 4>and we can charge in different states because we are

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<v Speaker 4>federal LA enforcement officers.

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<v Speaker 1>And the crime that could link all those cases that

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<v Speaker 1>gets the ncs's backs really up. Not kidnapping, not fraud,

0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:42.399
<v Speaker 1>not theft or the other allegations we know about. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what about stolen.

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<v Speaker 4>Valor somebody that's using the military or being an uniform

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<v Speaker 4>and obtaining something of value.

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<v Speaker 1>It may not be the most obvious crime, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is a federal one.

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<v Speaker 4>A very patriotic in this country. In Texas, it's almost

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<v Speaker 4>like to another level.

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<v Speaker 1>You see, stolen valor is something that the good military

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<v Speaker 1>lads and ladies of America get really pissed off about.

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<v Speaker 4>To pretend to be in the military or police officer,

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<v Speaker 4>to me is fairly despicable. I have no respect for that,

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<v Speaker 4>and I have no tolerance for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Golf friends, we've found our inn. Suddenly, the hunt for

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Aldred goes coast to coast with Special Agent Mike

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<v Speaker 1>at the Helm first port of call.

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<v Speaker 3>Dorry I first met with Mike. I think it was

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<v Speaker 3>in the parking isla of mcswiggins. Actually, he's just a

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<v Speaker 3>good guy.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the first of many meetings. Dorry and Mike

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<v Speaker 1>will have Dorry and her Camaro, Mike and his Dodge

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<v Speaker 1>Charger in the parking lot of that Irish themed bar.

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<v Speaker 3>As I was finding stuff in the apartment, he'd be like,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, meet me in the parking lot and I'd

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<v Speaker 3>give it to him.

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<v Speaker 1>They talk about cars for a bit and then they

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:09.520
<v Speaker 1>get into business. Mike needs evidence that Derek used the

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:14.720
<v Speaker 1>uniforms to make financial gains. That's a crime, stolen vala.

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<v Speaker 1>Not wearing the uniform just to trick people, but using

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<v Speaker 1>the uniform to get things, and Dorry has just the story,

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<v Speaker 1>the one from their second date where Richie slash Derek

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:33.920
<v Speaker 1>flashes his badge at the baseball game. She can give

0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:39.159
<v Speaker 1>Mike exact dates, and the whole exchange was caught on camera.

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<v Speaker 1>Special Agent Mike knows he has to tread carefully here.

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<v Speaker 1>Derek has an mo When he's cornered.

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<v Speaker 4>He gets a sense usually that he's in trouble, and

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<v Speaker 4>then he takes off. And so my fear was that

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 4>he would figure out that he was in trouble, the

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:57.840
<v Speaker 4>police were on to him, he was being investigated, and

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<v Speaker 4>then he was going to skip out of town. The

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 4>objective was to really get him into custody as soon

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:07.080
<v Speaker 4>as possible. Let's get him off the street before he runs,

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<v Speaker 4>and then we can go from there.

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<v Speaker 1>You see, Special Agent Mike has a new plan underway

0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:19.440
<v Speaker 1>right at this moment. His team have realized if he's

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 1>still in town, the fastest way to catch Derek would

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 1>be if someone still close to him just tells them

0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:27.959
<v Speaker 1>where he is.

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<v Speaker 4>While we were looking through all the material from the iPad,

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<v Speaker 4>we also saw Tracy's information.

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<v Speaker 1>Another woman named Tracy, who Derek appears to be dating

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<v Speaker 1>too at the very same time as Dorry. Coming up

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<v Speaker 1>next on the Girlfriends Trust Me Babe, Tracy turns out

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<v Speaker 1>to be just the girlfriend for the job.

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<v Speaker 2>Never Fuck with the Country Girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Never Fuck with the Country Girl. If you've found any

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<v Speaker 1>of the themes explored in this episode difficult and you

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<v Speaker 1>The Girlfriend's Trust Me Babe is produced by Novel for

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<v Speaker 1>The series is hosted by me Annasinfield's, produced by Leona Hamid.

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<v Speaker 1>Our assistant producer is Valeria Rocker. Our editor is Joe Wheeler.

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<v Speaker 1>Production management from Sharie Houston, Joe Savage and Charlotte Wolfe.

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<v Speaker 1>Fact checking by Dania Suleiman, Sound design, mixing and scoring

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<v Speaker 1>by Daniel Kempson and Nicholas Alexander. The Girlfriend's theme was

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<v Speaker 1>composed by Daniel Kempson and Luisa Gerstein and performed by

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Kempson with vocals by Louisa Gerstein. Music supervision from

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Kempson and Anna Sinfield. The series artwork was designed

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<v Speaker 1>by Christina Lemcol. Story development by Susie Baker and Olivia Smart.

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<v Speaker 1>Novel's director of development is Selena Metta. Max O'Brien is

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