1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:02,279 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 2: We're on the radio from one until four, and then 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 2: after four o'clock you could hear whatever you missed on 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: the iHeart app. It's John Cobelt's show on demand. It's 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 2: the podcast version of the show. And I am I 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: got enough here for about six hours. 8 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: I cannot waste any time. 9 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: Really, Today's Today's a bountiful day in news and bizarre things. 10 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 2: And one of the biggest stories is that the Supreme 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: Court heard arguments from Donald Trump's lawyers that a president is. 12 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: Immune too. Well. 13 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: They were arguing as immune to any kind of prosecution 14 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: for anything that happens to him during his presidency, whether 15 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: it's over a public issue, a private issue. And it 16 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: seems and I'm trying to you know, I do not 17 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: have a law degree, but we're going to have somebody 18 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: on who does. It seems like the Supreme Court met 19 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: him halfway maybe on this. It's got a Royal Oaks, 20 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: ABC News legal analyst and to see what you think 21 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court which way it may be going on 22 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: the statue Royal, how are you? 23 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 3: I'm great Hey, John, I know time is precious, so 24 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 3: I'm shocked to your having me on, but I'm going 25 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 3: to do my best anyway. You're absolutely right. They're split 26 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 3: in the baby. So the lower courts said, an ex 27 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 3: president is not immune from criminal prosecution. If he did 28 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 3: bad stuff official unofficial, you can get indicted. The Supreme 29 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 3: Court seems open to giving some level of immunity to 30 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: a former president accused of a crime while in office. 31 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 3: And it was a fascinating three hour or her argument. 32 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 3: It was basically a battle of hypotheticals over the immunity issue. 33 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 3: The liberal justices said stuff like, well, what if he 34 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: ordered the assassination of a political rival, or what if 35 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: he appointed an ambassador that sounds official, but he demanded 36 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: a bribe in return. Conservative justices asked stuff like, well, 37 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: what if the former president is indicted, you know, by 38 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 3: a bunch of left wing local prosecutors, they're going to 39 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: charge him for years? Both, you know, good interesting questions. 40 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 3: But the bottom line is this. We all know it's 41 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 3: hugely important John, as to whether there is a trial 42 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 3: in that Washington d c. January sixth case before November. 43 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 3: And the judges just chomping at the bit to get 44 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 3: that trial going. This conservative majority, I think five or 45 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: six of them, they are absolutely going to send this 46 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 3: case back to the trial court to determine. Okay, they're 47 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 3: going to sid there are two buckets. There's an official 48 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 3: act bucket and a personal act bucket. Which of Trump's 49 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 3: various actions pressuring like pans, the fake electors, this and that, 50 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 3: Which act goes in which bucket? And that process of 51 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: distributing his acts into official and non official that's going 52 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 3: to kill Jacksmith's chance to hold the trial on the 53 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 3: January sixth. Election interference is going to be way after November. 54 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 3: So it's basically mission accomplished from Trump's standpoint, even if 55 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 3: he is the case, even if ultimately everybody decides, well, basically, 56 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 3: most of what you did was personal. There was an election. 57 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 3: It was campaign stuff. The key is this is going 58 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 3: to put off that case. It could put off the 59 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 3: Georgia case also, although as you know, if Fannie willis 60 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: da kerfuffle down there, that means they're probably not going 61 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: to have a Georgia trial down there anyway. 62 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: So okay, what about the trial. 63 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: What about the Florida case with the with the documents, Yeah. 64 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: Documents Yeah, that's kind of a blendo. Trump could say, well, 65 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 3: you know, I took the documents while I was still president. 66 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 3: That sounds kind of official. But then they're going to say, well, 67 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 3: after you a president, beyond your official capacity, you lied, 68 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 3: and you didn't hand the documents back, and you the stuff, 69 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: the top secret stuff in your in your bathroom. So 70 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 3: who knows whether that could be affected or not. But frankly, 71 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 3: you know, the judge hasn't set a trial date in Florida, 72 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 3: the judge that was appointed by Donald Trump. I wouldn't 73 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 3: bet on that one going. So really, the only one 74 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: that's going to go is the one that's going right now, 75 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 3: Stormy Daniels in New York City, which most people agree 76 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: is the weakest of the four criminal cases and the 77 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: least important of the four criminal cases. You know, like 78 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: paying off a porn star is really something that goes 79 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: to the heart of democracy. 80 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Trump has the guts and the money to play 81 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 2: the system, push everything to the limit and find the 82 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: holes and find the weaknesses that nobody ever thought of before. 83 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: Oh. Absolutely, and these lawyers are absolutely implementing a strategy. 84 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 3: But in their role argument this morning, Justice Samuel Alito, 85 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 3: she used the old expression about you know, grand jury 86 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 3: can and dietah Ham sandwich, countless local das could prosecute 87 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 3: a president and all sorts of instability if a president 88 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 3: has to look over his shoulder during his term, oh am, 89 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 3: I going to get indicted by some Yahoo district attorney 90 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 3: in Oregon for taking a step that I think is 91 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 3: important and bold for the country. So yeah, it's a 92 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 3: tough question as to how much immunity a president should have. 93 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 3: But this court, I don't think this court wants to 94 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: look like there're Donald Trump's handmaid. I'm not going to 95 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 3: come out and say Donald Trump is right. He really 96 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,799 Speaker 3: wants us to say that anything and everything a president 97 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 3: does he's immune from prosecution. It's a more logical approach. 98 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 3: Let's sort out whether it was official or unofficial. But 99 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: that's going to take time and that's the key issue 100 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: from political. 101 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: And then if Trump becomes president, he could end all 102 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: these prosecutions, correct, I mean he could give orders to 103 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: the Department of Justice to drop all these cases against him. 104 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of angles there. First of all, theoretically 105 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: he could direct his Department of Justice with his new 106 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 3: attorney general. I don't think he's going to appoint Jeffrey's sessions. Again, 107 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: it's just a guess now. But anyway, the problem is 108 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: then people are going to be outraged and say it 109 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 3: sounds like Saturday night to massacre. You know, you're impeding justice. 110 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 3: The other angle is may a president pardon himself? And 111 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 3: that's unsettled. The courts have never addressed that. It sounds 112 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 3: a little flaky. There's a principle you can't be a 113 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: judge in your own case, but there's nothing in the 114 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 3: constitution that says you may not pardon yourself, and there 115 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 3: are limits on pardon in the constitution, so yeah, he 116 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 3: probably could get rid of it. 117 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: Well, that's what's fascinating about the cases he's involved in 118 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: is inevitably what comes up in the case is, well, Jay, 119 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 2: that's not in the law, that's not in the constitution. 120 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: Nobody thought of this before the founding fathers didn't put 121 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: that in. And that's where he works the angles and 122 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 2: he finds the crevices and he slides his way through. 123 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 3: And there's so many issues in three hundred and nearly 124 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,239 Speaker 3: three hundred years of our country that really haven't address 125 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 3: been addressed, like may have president pardon himself or the 126 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 3: immunity buckets. So yeah, the Supreme Court is thinking its 127 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 3: teeth into it. But you're right, he's exploiting some very interesting, 128 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 3: unsettled issues and the bottom line, as time is on 129 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 3: his side. 130 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 2: All right, Royle, very good, thank you for coming on 131 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 2: with all that. You bet, all right, we'll ABC News. 132 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 2: The Supreme Court, it looks like they're not going to 133 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 2: give total immunity to Trump or any president for acts 134 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: he commits while president. Maybe immunity for public acts, but 135 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: not private acts. But the real bottom line, the real 136 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: purpose of this was to delay the trial. And this 137 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: involves all the activity in Washington on January sixth, and 138 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: Trump's roll in that those charges are going to have 139 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: to be sorted out, perhaps after the decision comes down 140 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: in June, and then and the appeals court or the 141 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: district court there is going to have to say, Okay, 142 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: this is protected under Trump's public decision making. This one's 143 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: not protected because this was a private issue. By time 144 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: they sort all that out, there's no way they get 145 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,679 Speaker 2: the trial before November. And if he becomes president, he'll 146 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: kill the prosecution. And if he's not president, nobody's going 147 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: to care anymore. We will continue here when we come back. 148 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: Turns out things eventually got nuts at USC yesterday and 149 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: they arrested ninety three people. And also the National Review 150 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: did a story and they looked at some of the 151 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: interviews of students around the country and found that a 152 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: lot of these students. We touched on this yesterday, but 153 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: it's really true. A lot of these kids have no 154 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: idea what they're protesting about, and they have no idea 155 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: that they're fighting for Palestine, Iran, Hamas and how they 156 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 2: would be treated based on their affinity group, how they 157 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: would be treated if they were in Palestine or Iran 158 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: or they were under the rule of Hamas, and just 159 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 2: the colossal ignorance of these of these teenagers, really and 160 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 2: people in the early twenties who think they know everything. 161 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 2: Turns out they know almost nothing, but they like marching 162 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: around and screaming about it. More coming up. 163 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 164 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 4: six forty. 165 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: Lets let's start with the USC thing, because it was 166 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 2: noisy at first and then it seemed to calm down. 167 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 2: I don't think after we had Chris Adler on early 168 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 2: in the show yesterday there was anything further newsworthy and 169 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: then I guess starting late afternoon into the evening, things 170 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: went went nuts because there were dozens of LAPD cops 171 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 2: that were on the campus at four o'clock and they 172 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: formed a line around Alumni Park and that's where the 173 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: graduation is supposed to be next month, and they closed 174 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: the gates to the campus yet to show your ID 175 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 2: to prove that you belonged to the university in some way. 176 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 2: The professors were given the option of conducting classes online, 177 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: and a lot of professors took that option, probably not 178 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 2: because they were scared of the protesters, but because they're 179 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: they're lazy slugs. At five, the USC Department of Public 180 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 2: Safety gave the protesters a ten minute warning to disperse 181 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: or face arrest. Now, this is the way you handle 182 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: a protest. This is what they did not do in Columbia. 183 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: And protesters then gathered around the officers and started chanting, 184 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: and the LAPD officers marched towards the students carrying less 185 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 2: lethal weapons. There has to be a better phrase than 186 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: that less lethal weapons. Students got another ten minute warning. 187 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: Then there was an LAPD helicopter at a loud speaker 188 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 2: that blasted the message your time is up, leave the 189 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: area or you will be arrested for trespassing. Well, students 190 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: wouldn't move, and then a half hour later Lapd entered 191 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: the campus. Protesters chanted all we want is peace, and 192 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: the cops were having none of it. In fact, one 193 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 2: of the cops briefly raised his less lethal weapon and 194 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: the crowd started check outing whoa, whoa, whoa. It's like, yeah, 195 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 2: you want a rubber bullet in the forehead, whoa? And 196 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 2: nobody could say for sure if a rubber bullet was 197 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: shot or not, but a video posted showed an officer 198 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: shooting one towards a crowd that was off campus. But 199 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: they don't know for sure, and eventually ninety three people 200 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: were arrested. By nine thirty, the crowd had dispersed and 201 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 2: some officers stayed to stand guard. 202 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: Your daughter was there, Did she run into any nonsense? 203 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 5: She didn't, But she when she went out for lunch 204 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 5: because she goes to the law school there, so it 205 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 5: was kind of away from where the protests were happening. 206 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 5: But then she couldn't get back on campus for a 207 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 5: long time. Then she had to show her ID. And 208 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 5: you know what really stinks about all this is that 209 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 5: so she has finals tomorrow. Yeah, and so these students 210 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 5: have finals this week and they have to deal with this. 211 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 5: I mean how it's very distracting. And graduation next month 212 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 5: and you can't. 213 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: Just relax and enjoy anything because of the you know, 214 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: we have a few hundred whack jobs. Don't don't these 215 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: whack jobs have finals or these all outside agitators? 216 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: Who I mean, I I just I don't know. 217 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 2: I mean the selfishness, the the the ego of these 218 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: people that they think by shouting into the wind that 219 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: they're going to affect a war on the other side 220 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 2: of the and and just and this is not just 221 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 2: an inconvenience. This is a major disruption during an important 222 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: time of the school year. And and and they should 223 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 2: all be arrested, and they should be arrested and thrown 224 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: in jail like for the rest of the semester, so 225 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: they can't do anything further to disrupt people's education. I 226 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: was reading today that this is you know, some of 227 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: the kids, they've had such a disruptive college experience because 228 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: it started in COVID right right, and they were isolated 229 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 2: in their rooms online and now it's ending with with 230 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: with this none. 231 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 5: Well, USC canceled main graduation. They did that today, they 232 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 5: canceled it. 233 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: They can't. I didn't know that. Yeah, oh see, that's sad. 234 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: That's wrong. 235 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 5: Their main stage graduation where since five thousand people come 236 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 5: every year. 237 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: Oh, that's terrible. 238 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: That's a security Yeah, because because of insane toddlers. And 239 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 2: I'll talk about some of these people when we come 240 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: back and they're completely ignorant. They don't know what they're 241 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 2: yelling about and who they're yelling for, and they don't 242 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: know what would be like if they lived in the 243 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 2: countries that they are protesting for. It's like if you 244 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 2: actually lived in Iran or lived in Palestine, what your 245 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 2: life would be like. I have never seen such stupidity 246 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: and ignorance and selfishness in my life. It's like they're 247 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 2: all acting out some kind of massive nervous breakdown. 248 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 5: And then they're they're they're talking about it's free speech. 249 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 5: You're trying to take away our free speech. 250 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: No, your free speech doesn't mean you get disrupt everyone's life. 251 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: You know, my free speech doesn't mean I can I 252 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 2: can come and shout in your ear at two o'clock 253 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 2: in the morning while you're sleeping you are creating a 254 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: big public nuisance, a big public ruckus. Oh what do 255 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: they usc They shouldn't be canceling graduation, but they were 256 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: trying to harass these idiot protesters. They have a no 257 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: camping law, and every time the tents were put down 258 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: on the ground by the students, the campus went after 259 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 2: the tents, and so the students end up carrying the 260 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 2: tents and walking around in a circle so they couldn't 261 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: be accused of camping. 262 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: As a farce, the whole thing is ridiculous. 263 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: Now when we come back, National Review looked at some 264 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 2: of the stories, some of the interviews around the country, 265 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 2: and what is overwhelming that will blow your mind is 266 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: how little all these teenagers and people in their early 267 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 2: twenties know. 268 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: They think they're so worldly. They think they're you know. 269 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: They're citizens of the world, and they're having an impact 270 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 2: on global policy and American foreign policy, and that they're 271 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: you know, this is going to be a turning point 272 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: in world history. They have no idea what this is about. 273 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: They don't have no idea who they're defending and fighting for, 274 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: and that they themselves. If they were in these countries, 275 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: some of them would be executed for the lifestyles they lead. 276 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: Tell you about it. We come back. 277 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI AM. 278 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: Six forty moistline. 279 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: Hey, we're playing calls tomorrow eight seven seven Moist eighty 280 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: six is the number eight seven seven moist eighty six. 281 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 2: Or you can use the talkback feature on the iHeartRadio 282 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 2: app and Tomorrow's the day if you want to be 283 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: heard by the rest of the audience. Now, what is 284 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: fascinating to me is is just the the existence of 285 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: these protests, and then the coverage of the protests, and 286 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 2: how little is done to dissect the personality disorders that 287 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: a lot of these people have. They really do have 288 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: personality disorders. They're chanting is vacuous, I mean, as empty 289 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: as a Kardashian. There's it's just stupid rhymes. It's a 290 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: lot of toddler behavior. Toddlers like rhymes. Toddlers like to 291 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 2: stamp their feet and scream really loud, and if they 292 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: don't get their way, you know, have a big hissy 293 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 2: fit and start throwing things. And so it's the glorification 294 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: of toddler behavior in the bodies of people who are 295 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: roughly between eighteen and twenty two years old, whose parents 296 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: are spending sixty seventy eighty thousand dollars a year and 297 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 2: more for an elite education that more or less guarantees 298 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 2: them a very comfortable, upper middle class life. And yet 299 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: these people seem to be so unhappy and rest so 300 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 2: desiring of being noticed, of having some effect on the world. 301 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: I mean, if they could put all these energies into 302 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 2: something real, you know, there's a lot of places you 303 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: could volunteer. There's a lot of ways when you're twenty 304 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 2: years old with a lot of energy to have an 305 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 2: impact on other people's lives who weren't that fortunate. And 306 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 2: yet no, they stamp around like little babies, screaming and yelling, 307 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: and then if you talk to them, you find out 308 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 2: they don't know much about what they're protesting over. I'm 309 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 2: gonna play this clip again yesterday, and this is a 310 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 2: clip of a couple of protesters who were actually quizzed 311 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 2: about why are you doing this? 312 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 4: There's the main goal with tonight's protest. 313 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 2: I think the roles are showing support from Palestine and 314 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: demanding that Nyu saw I honestly don't know all of 315 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 2: what ny is doing. 316 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: Is there something that NYU's doing. I really don't know. 317 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure there. 318 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: Do you know what n why he is doing about 319 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: protesting here? 320 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 5: More educated? 321 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: I wish I was more educated. Do you know what 322 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 2: NYU is doing about Israel? 323 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: Do you know? I don't know. 324 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: I mean that if it wasn't for the threat of violence, 325 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 2: if it wasn't that, they're blocking regular students from attending 326 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 2: class and enjoying life and graduating and going to final exams. 327 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 2: This is a laughing stock. It's a farce. There's nothing 328 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 2: meaningful in it, just because overgrown babies go outside and 329 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 2: have a toddler fit. It's like, well, look what the 330 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 2: youth of today thinks about these issues. 331 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: It gives a crap. 332 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 2: I was twenty. Who gives a crap what I thought 333 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 2: when I was twenty. I didn't know anything. Nobody does 334 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 2: when they're that young. I don't know why we feel 335 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 2: the need to worship. This is what the young people 336 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 2: are upset. 337 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: Let's shut up. 338 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 2: Spending on This is an article in the National Review 339 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 2: by Caylea bartch And She was looking at some of 340 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 2: the protesters at campuses around the country and noticed, in 341 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 2: addition to setting up tents. She noted that a lot 342 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: of them said they actually don't know why they're protesting, 343 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 2: but they want to support Palestine, you know, solidarity of Palestine. 344 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: And in between the tents, their display of resistance included 345 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 2: performing interpretive dances for decolonization. You know, Israel has colonized Palestine. 346 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 2: That's their argument. So in order to get Israel to 347 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 2: stop colonizing Palestine, they are doing interpretive dances. They weave 348 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 2: friendship bracelets, they sell incense and essential oils, and they 349 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 2: are vaping for the oppressed as well. Now, at some 350 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 2: of the Ivy League encampments, there's an overlap between LGBTQ 351 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 2: you advocates and the Free Palestine advocates. And I can't 352 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 2: even read these signs, but I'll give you the gist 353 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 2: of them. Among the signs at Colombia was trans Gaze 354 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 2: for Palestine, except they used the F word, you know, 355 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 2: the sexual F word, trans for fat Palestine, also trans 356 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: Lesbians for Palestine. Okay, Now, Caleb Artch writes, who's going 357 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: to tell them that they would be the gays and 358 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: the lesbians would be the first to be executed under 359 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 2: Shariah law, which is what they're protesting for Palestine is 360 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 2: run under Shariah law, so is Palestine's boss Iran. The 361 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 2: supreme leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran is Ali Hamani, 362 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 2: the Iyatola Hamiani, and he posted his support on Twitter 363 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: of the college encampments. And what Caleb Barshrow is how 364 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 2: satisfying for him to watch the children of America's elite 365 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 2: praise Hamas and Hezbollah, which are funded, trained, and armed 366 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 2: by Iran to achieve the twin goals of death to 367 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 2: America and death to Israel. That's what the boys and 368 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 2: girls are doing over at USA and UCLA today. Now, 369 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: if these students were protesting in Iran. 370 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 5: Huh you were worried about me? 371 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 2: And yeah, right, Well, they'd be sentenced to death. Here's 372 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 2: an example. 373 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: There is. 374 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 2: An Iranian rapper named Tumage Selehi and he was protesting 375 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: over the killing of a young woman in police custody. Well, 376 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: Tumage got the death sentence from protesting. Now, Masa Amini 377 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 2: was the woman killed in police custody. You know what 378 00:21:55,560 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 2: she did wrong? Improper wearing of a he job. That's 379 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 2: one of the crimes that you could be severely punished 380 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 2: for in Iran. You're not wearing your heat job properly. 381 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 2: You don't see these girls at USC protesting over that. Huh. 382 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 2: Iranian women cannot sing or dance solo in public. They 383 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: cannot ride a bicycle, they cannot attend matches in sports arenas. 384 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 2: There are certain education subjects they're not allowed to but 385 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: they're not allowed to study. They cannot hold any offices 386 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 2: of power. Violence against women is a norm under the 387 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 2: Islamic Republic of Iran. According to Iranian law, adultery is 388 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 2: punishable by stoning. Violating the he job rules is punishable 389 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: by seventy lashes. Do you think any of the girls 390 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 2: at USC protesting yesterday knows this. 391 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: I would just love to. 392 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 2: See their faces and go, h oh, that's not cool. 393 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: Many young women and middle aged women receive this punishment. 394 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: Homosexuality is illegal under the Islamic Republic law in Iran. 395 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 2: Same sex crimes, that's right, crimes are subjected to hudad, 396 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: which is a punishment under Shriah law, where whoever is 397 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 2: making the claim is deemed to be God. So if 398 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 2: somebody goes to an Iranian law enforcement official and says, hey, 399 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: those two were having gay sex, the person making the 400 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: claim is considered to be God. This is God filing 401 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 2: the claim. Punishments are severe. In fact, sodomy known as 402 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: levat is punishable by death where a judge determines when 403 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:57,239 Speaker 2: it judge determines that penetration was involved. Zero percent of 404 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 2: these college children, these toddlers know this because if you 405 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 2: support Palestine, you support Hamas, you support Haran, you support 406 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 2: Shariah law, you support the strictest form of Islam as 407 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 2: for Hamas, because Hamas is Palestine, Palestine is Amas. The 408 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 2: norm in Hamas in Gaza is they throw women in 409 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: jail or worse for the crime of organizing zoom calls, 410 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 2: and if you have extramarital sex, also jail. Article eighteen 411 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 2: of the Hamas Covenant of nineteen eighty eight decrees that 412 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 2: women in the home of the fighting family, whether she 413 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 2: is a mother or a sister, plays the most important 414 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: role in looking after the family, rearing the children, and 415 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 2: imbuing them with moral values and thoughts derived from Islam. 416 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 2: That's not exactly a feminist manist, oh is it. In 417 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 2: other words, while the men are out fighting for freedom, 418 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 2: you're supposed to stay in the house and raise the kids. 419 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 2: This is what these protesters. This is these are the countries, 420 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 2: the religion, the terrorist groups. This is what the USC 421 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 2: kids and the UCLA kids are supporting. They're absolute idiots. 422 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 2: They're intellectual idiots, they're moral idiots. They don't have a 423 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 2: shred of knowledge. All they know it's really cool to 424 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 2: go out and chant and stamp your feet and bank 425 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 2: drums and chanting rhymes, which is exactly what you would 426 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,959 Speaker 2: find in a Jimbree class. 427 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 5: Too bad somebody can't go to these protests with a 428 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 5: bullhorn because you know, it's so loud, it's bewhelming there 429 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 5: and just spew off everything you just said. 430 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, their reaction probably be just to screen outer 431 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: because there's there's so much cognitive dissonance. Anything they hear 432 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 2: that counteracts whatever belief system they they'll just reject. 433 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: I suspect. 434 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 5: Then they don't belong on these elite campuses. 435 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,479 Speaker 1: No, no, And this is what gets into the this 436 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: is what all I mean. Geez. 437 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 2: You know, I raised my kids on the West Side, 438 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: and everybody was fighting, turning their kids into a basket cases, 439 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 2: trying to get them into these kinds of schools. And 440 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 2: you get there and these are not elite intellects. It's 441 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 2: not filled with all this great U intellectual firepower and talents. 442 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: Now just a bunch of spoiled rich kids. The dilettants. 443 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 2: They're they're, they're they're. They've had everything taken care of 444 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 2: it for them in life, so life doesn't really have 445 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 2: any meaning. They have nothing to fight for in their 446 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: own life because they know, more or less everything's taken 447 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 2: care of Mom and dad drop dead. I'm inheriting millions 448 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 2: of dollars and I'll. 449 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: Do what I want. 450 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 5: These are the ones that are going to want to 451 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 5: work from home. 452 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, they inherit their parents' house and they work from 453 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 2: home and they talk on zoom all day. And so 454 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: these are the great moral intellects who are now screaming 455 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: out in the street. Probably ought to stop covering them all. 456 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 2: They're not really not worth the time. 457 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI A 458 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 4: six forty. 459 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 2: Coming up right after Devers at two o'clock news, We're 460 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: going to talk to John Lewin, Deputy DA. We've had 461 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 2: him on many times and he's got a lot to 462 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 2: stay about the latest gascon scandal. It never stops. He 463 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 2: hired Gascone hired a former public defender named Diana Tehan 464 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 2: as an assistant district attorney, not a deputy DA which 465 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 2: most of the prosecutors have as a title, but an 466 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 2: assistant district attorney, basically part of the gascone upper tier 467 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 2: of his administration. And she is being charged with eleven 468 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 2: felonies that she illegally, illegally accessed information about police officers, 469 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 2: some of whom that she was investigating. These were their 470 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 2: private work records, confidential records, and she broke the law, 471 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 2: so says Rob Bonta, the California Attorney General. Neilsom's buddy, 472 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 2: Rob Bonta, is going after gascon's top administrator, Diana Tehran 473 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 2: and it's eleven charges, eleven felonies. Hard to believe Gascon 474 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 2: didn't know about all this. We'll talk with John Lewin 475 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,959 Speaker 2: coming up while we got a minute. We've been discussing 476 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: all the college demonstrations here at USC and UCLA. 477 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: This is from UCLA today. 478 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 2: I guess this is Chip Yost from KTLA Channel five 479 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 2: to the reporter, and you're gonna hear a clip of 480 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: him and apparently him, he and the cameraman for Channel five. 481 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: I've got into it. With a protester who did not 482 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 2: want to be recorded on video. 483 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: I'm allowed to be here to report one. 484 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 6: Do you want to protect these undergraduate's First Amendment rights? 485 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 7: I am concerned about covering this story. 486 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: Do you want to I don't. Do you want to 487 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: protect their. 488 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 7: First Amendment rights? They're allowed to come over here and 489 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 7: talk to me if they want to. Okay, our camera 490 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 7: is being physically pulled from us right now. 491 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: You believe this is appropriate? 492 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 7: All this? And why are you here? 493 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: You're here because you're protesting. 494 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 7: You want your message out you yet you are trying 495 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 7: to kick us out of your area where your protests. 496 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: Just answer the question, Oh, it's kind of hard. 497 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 7: To talk to you when they're pulling my photographer away. 498 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 7: They're assaulting my photographer. They're assaulting my photographer over So 499 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 7: you believe you have the right to control this entire area, 500 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 7: control who comes and goes. Do you do you believe? 501 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 7: Do you believe you have the right to control who 502 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 7: comes and goes in this area? Do you understand the 503 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 7: First Amendment? I don't think you do, because you do. 504 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 7: You understand you're allowed to protest, but you think you 505 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 7: have the right to keep the media from covering your 506 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 7: protest media. 507 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 6: Do you do you respect to these undergraduates First Amendment 508 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 6: right to protest? 509 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 7: Yes, that's why we're here covering it. That's why we 510 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 7: are here covering it. We are giving you covering it, 511 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 7: and yet you are trying to keep us out here 512 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 7: from covering it. 513 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 6: We are asking you for the safety of these undergraduates who. 514 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: Can face How is their safety in danger. 515 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 6: Because these undergraduates can face expulsion for protesting, for exercising 516 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 6: their First Amendment rights because they are not protected. So 517 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,719 Speaker 6: we're asking you to only film people with their express consents. 518 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 6: We have plenty of people. 519 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 7: You realize that, you realize that as a ridiculous request. 520 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: I realized that you if you care about people, do 521 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: you care? 522 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 4: There? 523 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 3: You go? 524 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: Okay, the moral authorities, all right, we'll have much more 525 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: of that throughout the days. Okay, that's chipy ost kati La. 526 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: They were assaulting his photographer and pulling the camera away, 527 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: and they notice how they put you on the moral defensive. 528 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: Well, don't you care about hey? 529 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 2: If you don't want to suffer the consequences of supporting 530 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 2: terrorism in public, then go home, stay in your bedroom. 531 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: Better yet, go to the classroom. 532 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 2: And go learn something about history, learn something about current events. Dude, 533 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 2: they don't teach this stuff, I guess anywhere anymore high 534 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 2: school and college. That places like Iran, places like Gaza 535 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 2: are run by Sharia law, are run by religious zealots. 536 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: The things they do to women in these countries, and 537 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 2: the things they do to gaze and lesbians and all 538 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 2: the members of the alphabet right, all the torture that 539 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 2: goes on, they have no idea. He has no idea 540 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 2: that kid about what the First Amendment is. First Amendment 541 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 2: says that Chip Yost can can stick his microphone out 542 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 2: and stick the camera out and record what's going on 543 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 2: in a public space, and if you don't want to 544 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 2: be exposed and have some kind of some kind of consequences, 545 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 2: then don't go. 546 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: That's part of your freedom too. 547 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 2: You have the freedom to express yourself, and you have 548 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 2: the freedom not to express yourself and stay home because 549 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 2: you don't want deal with the consequences. The First Amendment 550 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 2: doesn't mean you don't have consequences for speaking your opinion. 551 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 2: It depends on the time and place. The First Amendment 552 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 2: just says the government can't take away you're right to 553 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 2: speak out, but a private university who think you're stirring 554 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 2: up trouble on their private land. 555 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: Well, of course they could set the rules. 556 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 2: If they say, look, we're not gonna have any public 557 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 2: demonstrations or you get suspended, then that's their rule. Then 558 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 2: don't go to the university. But the moral superiority don't 559 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 2: you care? 560 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: How about I don't care? Coming up, we're going to 561 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: talk to John Lewin. 562 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 2: And John Lewin is a Deputy DA and big scandal 563 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 2: in George Gascone's office. One of his top administrators is 564 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 2: the Assistant District Attorney Diana Turan, and she is now 565 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 2: charged with eleven felonies by the State Attorney General that 566 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 2: she accessed eleege lacks private information about police officers' records 567 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 2: while being employed as cops. And we'll get into the 568 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 2: details coming up. 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