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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly john Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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Speaker 1: today's best minds, and with the swearing in of Congressman

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Speaker 1: Christian Manafie, Speaker Mike Johnson now holds a one vote

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Speaker 1: majority in the House of Representatives. We have such a

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Speaker 1: great show for you. Ziteo's Mehdi Hassan stops by to

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Speaker 1: talk about the Epstein rollout and how it's been botched

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Speaker 1: by Donald Trump's doj Ben. We'll talk to Kate Connolly

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Speaker 1: about her run in York seventeenth District as she hopes

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Speaker 1: to flip a seat that is occupied right now by

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Speaker 1: enemy of the show, Mike Lawler.

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Speaker 2: But first the news Mali government shutdown has been stopped

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Speaker 2: with the help of Democrats. Dear, I happy I am about.

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Speaker 1: This government shutdown. We hardly knew you. So here's the deal.

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Speaker 1: There is a two week patch on the homeland security funding.

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Speaker 1: That means for two weeks Democrats and Republicans will try

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Speaker 1: to negotiate maybe some kind of accountability for ICE. Now

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Speaker 1: what do we want? Well, a lot of us would

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Speaker 1: like to see unmasked agents. A lot of us are

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Speaker 1: pretty sick of Donald Trump having a masked gestapo that

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Speaker 1: is buying up warehouses to warehouse people in as was

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Speaker 1: reported by Bloomberg, that piece of something you should definitely read.

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Speaker 1: ICE is trying to buy up all these warehouses to

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Speaker 1: turn them into holding facilities for human beings, you know,

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Speaker 1: like concentration camps. So I would certainly like to see

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Speaker 1: greater accountability for ICE. The thinking here from Democrats in

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Speaker 1: a case for to Republicans. My feeling is that they

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Speaker 1: are in a moment of extreme public pressure and net

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Speaker 1: shutting down the government to prevent Donald Trump's gestapo from

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Speaker 1: taking over the country is worth it. I am not alone.

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Speaker 1: By the way, these members of Congress got hundreds of

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Speaker 1: thousands of phone calls, but in the end they have

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Speaker 1: reopened the government. It was a House voted two seventeen

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Speaker 1: to two fourteen. They have two weeks to try to

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Speaker 1: get Trump's administration to put some guardrails on ICE. Personally,

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Speaker 1: I think it's worth shutting down the government for this.

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Speaker 1: I think it was a huge mistake, but not up

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so my follow me first string of stories that

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Speaker 2: I think we can thread a needle on. So Trump

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Speaker 2: has decided now that a bunch of viz Lackys have

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Speaker 2: to prove there was election for aud in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Now we got the gang back together, Cyddy Powells here,

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Speaker 2: they're going to pretend Venezuela and voting machines hacked matrix

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Speaker 2: or whatever. But we have all these whistleblowers that came

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Speaker 2: for Tulsi Gabbard as she did a raid on Fulton

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So Tulsi Gabbert is the DNI, which means that

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Speaker 1: she is the Director of National Intelligence. That means that

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Speaker 1: she has no reason to be in Fulton County investigating

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Speaker 1: an election that is nearly half a decade ago. The

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Speaker 1: reason she's doing this is because Donald Trump is a

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Speaker 1: narcissist and he makes people in his administration do terrible,

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Speaker 1: stupid things for him, and that's what Tulsa Gabbert is

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Speaker 1: doing here. Is it legal?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: Is this insane? Yes? Should the FBI be seizing ballots

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Speaker 1: for an election that has widely been explained to be

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Speaker 1: free and fair? No? Is Donald Trump up to no good? Apps? Fuckingly,

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Speaker 1: it's this really bad the kind of stuff you know

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Speaker 1: be that you would have to have identification to vote.

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Speaker 1: They like this. Republicans like this because it's a voter

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Speaker 1: suppression tactic. They also like it because they just want

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Speaker 1: really really disturbing about all of this is that people

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Speaker 1: Like this is really scary stuff, Like this is the

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Speaker 1: also there's reporting that Telca Gabbert actually did this in

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Speaker 1: the direction of Donald Trump. It's hard to know. There's

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Speaker 1: interestingly enough, was on Laura Ingram show saying that puting

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Speaker 1: a very odd thing for the Deputy director of the

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Speaker 2: So to continue this narrative, we have the Trump DOJ

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Speaker 2: filing nine to eleven era chargers against leftists across the country.

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Speaker 2: They're trying to make Mantifa be a thing because they

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Speaker 2: anybody pays attention, what we keep seeing in all these

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Speaker 2: order fraud cases is it's Donald Trump fanatics who keep

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Speaker 2: voting repeatedly and this is all part of a big

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Speaker 1: So in Alabama, federal prosecutors in November charged a local

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Speaker 1: longtime Black Lives Matter activist under the statute. By the way,

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Speaker 1: one of the things that I think is important about

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Speaker 1: this is like these are left over nine to eleven

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Speaker 1: emergency powers, laws or rules or things put in right

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Speaker 1: before nine to eleven. And that is kind of insane

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Speaker 1: like that, it's also laws like the Comstock Act, like

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Speaker 1: when right wing activists wanted to take over our government,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you make a great point here, We're really going

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Speaker 2: to see it. It seems like they are now ramping up

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Speaker 2: this narrative about the leader of Antifa and Portland who's

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Speaker 2: It's like, this really is them grasping its straws here.

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Speaker 2: But Bally, I know you need to be cheered up sometimes.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to bring back one of your favorite

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Speaker 2: characters from this whole show, Judge Box of Wine.

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Speaker 1: Judge Box of Wine, Judge Piro. By the way, I

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Speaker 1: have to tell you Donald Trump running into gun activists

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Speaker 1: second season of American Democracy in Peril. So here's the deal.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump had this thing he said during a pool

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Speaker 1: Box of Wines new war on weapons. I want to add,

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Speaker 1: Wine comes from Westchester, Donald Trump comes from New York City.

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Speaker 1: in other states. Judge Pierro and Trump are recent converts

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Speaker 1: So mister Trump said last week in Iowa, I don't

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Speaker 1: he had two fully loaded magazines. That's a lot of

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Speaker 1: bad stuff. Well, get ready, Donald Trump, because this is

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Speaker 1: because Republican Party pretty into guns. Pierro declared on Fox

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Speaker 1: care if you're a law abiding gun owner somewhere else. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that is not how the Republican Party feels. And I,

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Speaker 1: for one, enjoy watching the Trump administration fight with the

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Speaker 1: social posts about quote unquote influencer and scumbag. You want

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Speaker 1: No, no, Leonard Leo. So there's a lot of Donald

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Speaker 1: Unfiltered Maddie. Hello, Hello, Donald Trump is coming for our elections.

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Speaker 4: Discuss Discuss when has he not been coming for our elections?

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Speaker 4: This is the thing about Donald Trump. He's been consistent

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Speaker 4: Done Bonginos show the guy who was his deputy direct

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Speaker 4: he tells Dan Bongino, there's about fifteen places we should

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Speaker 4: just take over the federal government. We should nationalize elections,

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Speaker 4: even though the Constitution says the exact opposite. And if

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Speaker 4: about states' rights and the tyrannical overreach of Washington, d C.

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Speaker 4: But it's very interesting, Molly, what he actually said. He

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Speaker 4: because I'm the representative of the federal government. Remember all

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Speaker 4: reads let all roads lead back to dictatorship. He wants

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Speaker 4: recently he claimed he won Minnesota three times. He lost

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Speaker 4: Minnesota three times. One other thing to watch out for

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Speaker 4: with Trump is he's not just talking about, you know,

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Speaker 4: looking into fraud and blah blah blah. He actually said recently, well,

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to cancel the midterms, which is a

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Speaker 4: weird thing to say because no one said you were

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Speaker 4: But also think of the thought process inside that weird

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump, when he ran for president, went on Fox.

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Speaker 1: It's all done. Was Cash Patel saying he only ever

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Speaker 4: talks to Peter teel Well and he says, well, Trump

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Speaker 4: can't release his tax returns. He can't do that, And

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Speaker 4: you say, why not. This is twenty sixteen, aug twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 4: It's a couple of months before the election. Why what

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Speaker 4: did Epstein know a man who, by the way, Trump

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Speaker 4: lied and said he cut all tides with many years earlier.

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Speaker 4: What comes out of these files is they were definitely

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Speaker 4: in touch. He knew what was going on in Trump world.

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Speaker 4: He was in conversation with Trump, according to the files.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they all lied about their contacts. I mean,

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Speaker 4: that's the whole separate thing about how much this administration

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Speaker 4: just lies brazenly. Howard Lutnick says in an interview last year,

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Speaker 4: I went to his house in two thousand and five.

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Speaker 4: My wife and I saw a massage chair in the room.

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Speaker 1: We were disgusted.

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Speaker 4: We walked out of the house and said, we'll never

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Speaker 4: get into a room with that disgusting man ever.

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 4: The emails show that seven years later, Lutnick says, Hey,

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Speaker 4: I'm coming to your island with my kids.

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Speaker 1: Where can I pull off my boat? Yes? Here are

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Speaker 1: their ages? Here are their ages.

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Speaker 4: You're telling a convicted sex offender by that he's four

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Speaker 4: years been convicted. Yeah, where do I pull up my

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Speaker 4: boat on your island? Just a brazen demonstrable, I Molly,

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Speaker 4: you have to ask you us on this question. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: people lie, and lots of politicians lie, but the way

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Speaker 4: these guys not just lie so relentlessly, but lye in

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Speaker 4: a way that they know they're going to get caught.

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Speaker 4: Luling when he said that there was an email that

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Speaker 4: could come out that showed he was like, he still

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Speaker 4: said it. Elon must spent the entirety of last year

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Speaker 4: saying I refuse to go to the island. I refused,

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Speaker 4: And then the emails come out where he says, when's

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Speaker 4: the wildest party? When can I come to your island

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Speaker 4: on Christmas morning when most people are with their families.

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Speaker 4: Elon Musk be emailing Jeffrey Epstein saying when can I

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Speaker 4: come to the island? And twelve yea four years again,

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Speaker 4: you should remind everyone this is four years after Epstein

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Speaker 4: has pleaded guilty, been convicted of procuring a child for

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Speaker 4: prostitution and sex trafficking.

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Speaker 1: He is a convicted sex offender. He's a convicted registered

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Speaker 1: sex Offenderly you can find him on the sex offender map.

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Speaker 1: I know because I looked.

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Speaker 4: At Democrats, Republicans, prominent academics, one of my heroes, Nom Chomsky,

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Speaker 4: people across the Blue Spectrum were fine hanging out with him,

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Speaker 4: socializing with him, taking money from him, taking flights with him,

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Speaker 4: is truly disgusting and shocking. And to go back to

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Speaker 4: your original question, we still don't know what levery she

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Speaker 4: had over some of these people. How much money, as

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Speaker 4: you say, if you're spending on some of these people.

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Speaker 4: We know Peter Anderson now is trying to deny that

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Speaker 4: he took money in the UK from Epstein's husband. Did

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Speaker 4: how many other people was he paying off? How many

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Speaker 4: other people was he funding. It's a real problem that

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Speaker 4: we don't know this stuff. And by the way, we

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Speaker 4: just talk about the emails, let's talk about the confidential

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Speaker 4: human informants that are in these files. I mean, there

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Speaker 4: is a chs what the FBI calls a vetted informant

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Speaker 4: who says, under threat of perjury, signed a document saying

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Speaker 4: that they witnessed Donald Trump saying he could make a

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Speaker 4: twelve year old child disappear and that he made other

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Speaker 4: children disappear. We have people saying that Donald Trump committed

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Speaker 4: sex frum. Trump obviously denies this. We don't know if

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Speaker 4: it's true, but it's not just a random tip. These

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Speaker 4: are people who have sworn on the penalty of perjury.

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Speaker 4: Therefore the FBI should investigate that. Did they investigate that?

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Speaker 4: We don't know.

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing is, there are so many places

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Speaker 1: where it seems like they were tipped off and then

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Speaker 1: nothing happened, or something happens and it's not in these files.

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Speaker 1: So where is it?

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Speaker 4: And don't forget, Donald Trump was president before, so a

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Speaker 4: lot of this happened in his first time.

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Speaker 1: Everyone always goes up.

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Speaker 4: But the funniest part of the old Jeffrey epstin conspirasa, Oh,

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Speaker 4: was he murdered in prison? Okay, if he was murdered

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Speaker 4: in prison? And that's the view I'm heavily leaning towards

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Speaker 4: these days. Who was president, which party was in control

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Speaker 4: of the Justice Department, which party was control of the

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Speaker 4: prison system? It was Donald Trump. It's like when they say, oh,

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Speaker 4: COVID lockdowns, and you're always like, well, who was president

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Speaker 4: for the first year of the pandemic. I love how

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Speaker 4: they just erased the fact that Donald Trump was president

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Speaker 4: for the pandemic in twenty twenty and for Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 4: in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but I also wonder when we talk about this,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of men in these files, and

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Speaker 1: there are not a lot. And they remember there was

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Speaker 1: this first indictment, this list, this indictment that that Epstein

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Speaker 1: got a sweetheart to you all four and then there

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Speaker 1: was this FBI slide show in there, and then there

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Speaker 1: are all these men who are clearly you know there

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Speaker 1: was Remember earlier this year we saw these unindicted, these

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Speaker 1: co conspirators that were going to be indicted that never were.

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Speaker 1: Remember there were ten people. What happened with that?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's a great question.

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Speaker 4: The big question about this Justice Department is not a

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Speaker 4: justice department, right, It's Donald Trump's personal protection department. The

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Speaker 4: guy who's leading on this, Molly, let's just remind you

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Speaker 4: of viewers of listeners is Todd Blanche. He was Donald

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Speaker 4: Trump's defense lawyer. Think about how insane that we've normalized

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Speaker 4: so much insanity in this country that I get it

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Speaker 4: also just thinking about these things at random times. Todd

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Speaker 4: Blanche was his defense lawyer in his trials when he

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Speaker 4: was not president. He becomes president and makes his defense

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Speaker 4: lawyer into the into the deputy attorney general in charge

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Speaker 4: this case. Todd Blanche is the guy who went and

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Speaker 4: met with Gillane Maxwell, and after he met with Gilaine Maxwell,

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Speaker 4: he then transferred her to a low security prison where

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Speaker 4: she's able to wander around, which most sex offenders don't get.

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Speaker 4: He gave her special treatment. So there's so many unswer

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Speaker 4: questions about Bondie and Blanche. I don't know if you

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Speaker 4: saw that ad that they put out on Twitter the

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Speaker 4: other day saying if you're a lawyer and you support

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump and Maga, come be a prosecutor. What the fuck?

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Speaker 4: That is not a job title for a prosecutor. To

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Speaker 4: be supportive of the Donald Trump's political agenda is not

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Speaker 4: the criteria for being a prosecutor at the Department of Justice.

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Speaker 4: And again, this is not some left wing critique people

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Speaker 4: from the Bush administration, the Reagan administrations, like this is

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Speaker 4: not how it's done.

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Speaker 1: I just want to go back to ebste files for

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Speaker 1: a second. There are all these women, more than a

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Speaker 1: thousand women who have had their lives ruined, right ruined

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Speaker 1: because they were trafficked, they were raped, they were some

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Speaker 1: of them. There's recounts being choked, you know, violated violence

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Speaker 1: these and these women.

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Speaker 4: There's an email in there, there's a there's a source

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Speaker 4: in there for the FBI. Again, we don't know if

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Speaker 4: it's true or not suggesting that Maxwell and Epstein and

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Speaker 4: two girls foreign girls.

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Speaker 1: Quote unquote very killed in New Mexico. So the question is, like,

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Speaker 1: where is the accountability for any of these women, Like.

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Speaker 4: They coming from this administration and it didn't come from

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Speaker 4: the last one.

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Speaker 1: And when you hear them talk, you know, I at

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Speaker 1: their press conference they say there is a list of men.

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Speaker 1: They all know who these men were, and they were

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Speaker 1: not just Jeffrey Emstein. So like, is there no accountability

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Speaker 1: there or not? Right now?

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Speaker 4: There's zero accountability right now for sure. Obviously this Congress

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Speaker 4: under Mike Johnson has no interest in holding Trump to account.

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Speaker 4: He's a speaker in name only. Donald Trump is really

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Speaker 4: the speaker of the House. The Republicans and the Senate Thoon,

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Speaker 4: they're all a joke. All of these people in his

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Speaker 4: poo will judge them. And Democrats failed. I had Congress

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Speaker 4: with rocanad Our Lives of their Lives show d Seriesly

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Speaker 4: he led the charge with Thomas Massey to get these

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Speaker 4: files out. But I put him on the spot and

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Speaker 4: I said, well, why did why did Democrats do this

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Speaker 4: when you were in office? Why didn't Garland do this,

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Speaker 4: Why didn't Biden do this? Why didn't Democrats make a noise?

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Speaker 4: Then that's a legitimate critique of the Democratic Party that

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Speaker 4: they didn't do anything when they had the power, and

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Speaker 4: he tried to, you know, he put this Maxwell argument

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Speaker 4: forward the trial was going on, and it's just not true. Also,

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Speaker 4: there's this high minded argument that says, oh, no, but

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Speaker 4: we were never going to kind of use it for

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Speaker 4: political purposes.

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Speaker 1: Why the fuck not?

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Speaker 4: Like this classic Democrats will be will take the moral hacker.

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Speaker 4: If Donald Trump had been president sitting on a bunch

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Speaker 4: of files that showed that Joe Biden was pals with

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Speaker 4: America's most famous pedophile, you don't think he would have

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Speaker 4: leaked that out. If he had evidence that George Soros

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Speaker 4: was writing emails to Jeffrey Epstein say I'm trying to

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Speaker 4: be on your island.

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Speaker 1: He would have leaked that out.

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Speaker 4: But Musk and Trump, they managed to go through the

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Speaker 4: entire twenty twenty four election cycle without the Democrats saying

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Speaker 4: a word about this stuff. And I think the next

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Speaker 4: Democratic president has to be able to come into office

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Speaker 4: on a platform on a platform of getting justice on

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Speaker 4: this issue.

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Speaker 1: And also I just don't think that not finding justice

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Speaker 1: and accountability for these women is taking the Portocoi ground, not.

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Speaker 4: At all moral or politically. And I think what Kna

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Speaker 4: and Massey have done is they've reminded everyone that there's

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Speaker 4: huge interest in this story, huge desire for justice, and

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Speaker 4: the story is bigger than what we all thought it was.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you you look in the coming days and weeks,

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Speaker 4: how much stuff is coming out of these files. We

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Speaker 4: haven't even scratched the surface of the files that came

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Speaker 4: out on Friday.

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Speaker 1: And Tyd Boyanch said that, Dad said, I bet you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, certainly.

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Speaker 4: He also said he also said on Fox on Monday night,

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Speaker 4: he said to Ingram, it's not a crime to go

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Speaker 4: to a party with Jeffrey Epstein. That's their position. Good

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Speaker 4: luck with that, good luck in the midterms of that line.

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Speaker 1: And also, I wonder why you said that. I know

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Speaker 1: who else?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly what else were gonna find out about who

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Speaker 4: his party? By the way, depending on what the party was,

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Speaker 4: it could have been a crime to go to a

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Speaker 4: party with jeffre Epstein. Let's just be clear about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would not have gone to a party with

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. After he was on the sexavender registry, that.

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Speaker 4: One would have done what the richest man in the

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Speaker 4: world did, and asked, when's the wildest.

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Speaker 1: Party, wildest party, Maddie, thank you, thank you. Kate Connolly

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Speaker 1: is a candidate for New York's seventeenth district. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: past politics, Kate.

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Speaker 3: Mollie, thanks for having me, and thanks for all you

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Speaker 3: do to have these incredibly important conversations about things impacting

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Speaker 3: the American people.

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Speaker 1: So you're running for Congress against a New York Republican.

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Speaker 1: Who oh god, Mike Lawler talked to us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So I'm a fourth generation Hudson Valley native, right

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Speaker 3: blue collars. And yet it's funny because Mike Lauller and

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Speaker 3: I grew up about thirty miles apart. We're about the

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Speaker 3: same age. We could not be more different people.

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Speaker 1: Does he live in the district or he moved into

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Speaker 1: the district. He does, we're.

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Speaker 3: In different counties. But he has been a political operative

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Speaker 3: for the last twenty years. Where I after nine to eleven.

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Speaker 3: I was a junior in high school when the towers fell.

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Speaker 3: As you can imagine, Molly, the Hudson Valley got hit

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Speaker 3: pretty hard, and so I will tell you it's the

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Speaker 3: values that my family and the communities here raised me with.

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Speaker 3: I felt that call to serf to fight right, to

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Speaker 3: fight for what you love, and so I went off

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Speaker 3: the West Point and then spend sixteen years as an

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Speaker 3: Army officer, flowing overseas, doing six tours, and then I

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Speaker 3: ended my military career at the White House as the

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Speaker 3: Director for counter Terrorism on the National Security Council Staff.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: In my entire life fighting and serving this country to

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Speaker 3: keep the American people safe, while Mike Lawler's been a

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Speaker 3: political operative looking for his next ambition and angle. And

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Speaker 3: so I think that is going to be one of

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Speaker 3: the most important distinctions at a time where you see

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Speaker 3: people sick of politicians. They just want real people who

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Speaker 3: are going to solve real problems.

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Speaker 1: So talk us through what that looks like. So you

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Speaker 1: went into the Army, you worked in the Army, you

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Speaker 1: worked in national security. I want you to, actually, you

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Speaker 1: know what, talk about your district because it's a very

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Speaker 1: flippable district. We're coming into a midterm where Republicans cannot

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Speaker 1: get the stench of Trump off of them discussed, and

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Speaker 1: we're not going to let them right.

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Speaker 3: We are not going to allow these cowards to outrun

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Speaker 3: their record and what they've done. And that includes Mike Lawler,

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Speaker 3: who in many ways is leading this charge. So New

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Speaker 3: York seventeen, it was one of only three districts in

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Speaker 3: the entire country in twenty twenty four that went for

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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris and then a Republican member of Congress. So

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Speaker 3: when we talk about winning back the House, we must

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Speaker 3: flip this seat. There is no margin for error. And

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Speaker 3: I will tell you you know, I don't like to

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Speaker 3: often quote Mike Lawler, but I will hear he describes

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Speaker 3: New York seventeen as the district of heroes, or over

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Speaker 3: fifty percent of households are either veterans, the family of veterans,

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Speaker 3: first responders, or the family of first responders. And so,

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Speaker 3: as someone who has served, who has also been a

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Speaker 3: military police officer, I get what motivates these communities because

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Speaker 3: it's the same thing that motivates me. And when you

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Speaker 3: talk about earning the trust of people to represent them,

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Speaker 3: trust is built through your actions, not your words. And

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Speaker 3: going back to the difference between me and Mike Lawler,

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Speaker 3: our lives tell that story. While he's been out there

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Speaker 3: being a political operative and politician. I was out there

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Speaker 3: leading America's sons and daughters in defense of this nation.

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Speaker 3: And in New York seventeen that matters. Twenty percent of

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Speaker 3: registered voters here are unaffiliated or independent. So we can't

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Speaker 3: just win this district with just Democratic or Republican voters

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Speaker 3: alone on either side. You've got to be able to

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Speaker 3: get a voter to choose a person over a party.

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Speaker 3: And right now, what people are craving aren't politicians. And

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Speaker 3: I say this to someone who watched for the last

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Speaker 3: four years. I had a front row seat mo as

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Speaker 3: politicians on both sides got us into this mess right now.

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Speaker 3: The cowardice we are seeing coming out of DC with

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Speaker 3: a Republican controlled Congress, in this administration where we see

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Speaker 3: nothing but the continued expansion of the weaponization of the

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Speaker 3: executive branch is inexcusable. And I don't care how people voted.

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Speaker 3: Good people here don't want that to become America.

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Speaker 1: So talk to us about that, this weaponization of the

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Speaker 1: executive branch. Because Don Lemon, my friend in a jail

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Speaker 1: right now in California, arrested at eleven o'clock last night

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Speaker 1: in a Beverly Hills hotel lobby. It seems insane that

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Speaker 1: we are living in this country in this moment. Talk

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Speaker 1: to me about, as someone who's served in countries where

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Speaker 1: things like this used to happen, they weren't America, what

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Speaker 1: it's like, Molly.

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Speaker 3: I went overseas to combat zones with brave Americans, to

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Speaker 3: make sure that the American people were safe and secure

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Speaker 3: back home. And you watch as federal massed agents on

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Speaker 3: American streets, harass, assault, and kill American citizens, and this

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Speaker 3: administration do nothing, not demand accountability, not apologize, but literally

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Speaker 3: lie and cover it up. Is inexcusable. It is unhinged.

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Speaker 3: It is un American, and Molly, to your point, my

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00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 3: heart is breaking because I am watching the country that

727
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Speaker 3: I was willing to die for become something I barely recognize.

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Speaker 3: That is unacceptable.

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm doing.

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Speaker 3: This, not because I dreamt of it, but because I

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Speaker 3: believe in fighting for democracy and for this country. You know,

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Speaker 3: and when you look at these issues, look, I am saying,

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Speaker 3: this is someone who supports law enforcement. I was a

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Speaker 3: former military police officer. I've conducted law enforcement duties. This

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Speaker 3: is not about law enforcement. This isn't about immigration enforcement.

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Speaker 3: This is about an administration, whether it's through the weaponization

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Speaker 3: of the deo jay, like what we just saw with

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Speaker 3: Don Lemon, the investigation of political opposition. We saw this

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Speaker 3: with our own Attorney general here Tis James in New York.

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Speaker 3: We saw this with the former FBI director, James Comey.

741
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Speaker 3: Both of those cases were thrown out. You just see

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Speaker 3: how this administration has no boundaries and Congress is dare

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Speaker 3: looked in its duty to enforce them.

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Speaker 1: It really is. I mean, it's sort of shocking to

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Speaker 1: me how Congress has rubber stamped all of this. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you get elected and you feel Democrats are not

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Speaker 1: pushing hard enough, will you come out and say it.

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Speaker 1: It does feel sometimes like Democrats are not pushing hard

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Speaker 1: enough on things that the American people desperately want like this.

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Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Molly, I am doing this because honestly, I'm

752
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Speaker 3: fed up with politicians. And that's politicians on both sides.

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Speaker 3: We got into this mess take it Trump administration side.

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Speaker 3: We got into this mess. We're in twenty twenty four

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Speaker 3: as a Democratic Party. We lost every battleground state but

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Speaker 3: popular vote, the House in the Senate because we were

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Speaker 3: not delivering for the American people the way we need

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Speaker 3: to be and I think we need to accept that

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Speaker 3: right to move forward and do better and be stronger.

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Speaker 3: And so that means making America work for working Americans

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Speaker 3: and actually delivering on that. And so yeah, absolutely, I'm

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Speaker 3: in this because I'm a fighter, Molly. I am here

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Speaker 3: to fight for this country I love and for the

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Speaker 3: people I love, and I am watching during this era

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Speaker 3: as for the first time in modern American history, the

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Speaker 3: economic prospects of young Americans are worse than their parents

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Speaker 3: or grandparents. That's unacceptable. That is failure. So whether it

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Speaker 3: is actually delivering real solutions on the issues that the

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Speaker 3: American people can't wait any longer for us to step

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Speaker 3: up to the plate and hit it on, or if

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Speaker 3: it's holding this administration accountable. Absolutely, and I will tell

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Speaker 3: you this is why the November election matters so much.

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Speaker 3: Right to be able to have power in these institutions

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Speaker 3: to check this, to win back the House. But I

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Speaker 3: will say, even short of that, to your point, Molly,

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Speaker 3: when we have moments where there is leverage, we must

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Speaker 3: not let it pass. We must capitalize on every opportunity

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Speaker 3: to stop this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's really an important point because Congress

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Speaker 1: really did give away its power to Trump, certainly on

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Speaker 1: the right, but also you know, the left really refused

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Speaker 1: to legislate technology for any number of reasons. I wonder, like,

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Speaker 1: I think a lot about how the mainstream media is

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Speaker 1: so disseminated and how we see like there's no local news,

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Speaker 1: so people get AI slop and they don't see like

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Speaker 1: the truth. Do you believe that there should be tax

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Speaker 1: incentives for local news to support this kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if tax incentives are the approach, but

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Speaker 3: in terms of should there be encouragement of local reporting

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Speaker 3: and investigating so that people know what's happening in their community. Absolutely,

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Speaker 3: you know, I think this goes back to holding people

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Speaker 3: accountable at every level, and that's from the local up

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Speaker 3: to the federal, and we need to see more of that,

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Speaker 3: not less.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that technology should be regulated? I mean,

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Speaker 1: do you think like we see so many times in

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Speaker 1: this administration where they've just given a blank check to

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Speaker 1: AI to I mean, talk me through what you think

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Speaker 1: about that kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think we have seen social media how

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Speaker 3: the federal government had failed to look out for the

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Speaker 3: best interest of the American people, and now we are

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Speaker 3: paying the consequence. You know, wasn't it the CDC a

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Speaker 3: few years ago that put out the report about how

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Speaker 3: social media has caused mental illness and significant issues for

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Speaker 3: almost one in three young women. I mean, look, when

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Speaker 3: you talk about the toll that social media has had

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Speaker 3: on our youth and also our society, and where they're

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Speaker 3: focusing on enragement because enragement is engagement, their motives are

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Speaker 3: just fundamentally off. And then you see all of them

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Speaker 3: bending the need to Trump, trying to earn his favor.

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Speaker 3: I say this, I am a tech optimist. I believe

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Speaker 3: if we harness AI the right way, Molly, we're going

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Speaker 3: to do incredible things. We are going to cure cancer,

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Speaker 3: we are going to reverse the impacts of climate chain.

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Speaker 3: We are going to do incredible things with this capability.

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Speaker 3: But I also believe we need to make sure it

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Speaker 3: is utilized responsibly, and that means ensuring things like red

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Speaker 3: teaming of systems that are used in our critical infrastructure right,

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Speaker 3: making sure that we're not giving our adversaries access to

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Speaker 3: sensitive information that they could weaponize against us, and also

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Speaker 3: having a plan for the job displacement that is coming

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Speaker 3: and setting up the American people to be successful in

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Speaker 3: these new fields. So those are areas where it is

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Speaker 3: an America's interest for us to get this right.

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Speaker 1: So talk me through what your district looks like. What

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Speaker 1: are the numbers? It's an R plus what or it's

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Speaker 1: a D plus what? Talk us through all that.

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Speaker 3: So what's super important is in New York after the

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Speaker 3: census every ten years, we essentially reassess the district lines,

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Speaker 3: right if there's the population change. So in twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 3: New York seventeen was redistricted. And it matters because a

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Speaker 3: lot of people when they think about the old New

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Speaker 3: York seventeen, I mean it was solidly blue, molly. You know.

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty Joe Biden won it by ten points.

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Speaker 3: But in twenty twenty one the district shifted north, and

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Speaker 3: so now it is fundamentally a different type of district

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Speaker 3: where it is solidly purple. You know.

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Speaker 1: It was one of.

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Speaker 3: Three districts in twenty twenty four that split the ticket

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Speaker 3: for Kamala Harris and a Republican member of Congress. But

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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris won the district by less than a point

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Speaker 3: and Mike Lawler won it by six and so when

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Speaker 3: you talk about the challenge of beating Mike Lawler, it

845
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Speaker 3: is very real, but the path that beating him is

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Speaker 3: even more real. And that's because when you look at

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Speaker 3: what resonates with people here as he starts his second term,

848
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Speaker 3: he has a track record that we will absolutely hold

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Speaker 3: him accountable to and despite all of his lyne he

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Speaker 3: will not be able to outrun. He has voted with

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Speaker 3: Trump one hundred percent of the time. He has been

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Speaker 3: a vocal advocate, to include on CNN and MSNBC and

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Speaker 3: Fox News of this administration justifying the abuses that we

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Speaker 3: are seeing, to include with Minneapolis. Lollie, he had the

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Speaker 3: audacity to write an op ed and which he basically

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Speaker 3: explained how Minneapolis is just the byproduct of failed immigration policy.

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Speaker 3: He's full of shit. It's about the weaponization of the

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Speaker 3: executive branch. And so what it takes to win this

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Speaker 3: going back to this is a district reservice matters, and

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Speaker 3: we're in order to win, we need to be able

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Speaker 3: to have a candidate that's going to inspire people not

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Speaker 3: just what we're fighting against, but what we're fighting for.

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Speaker 3: And that is where I believe this is fundamentally different

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Speaker 3: with me on the ticket. Mike Loehler has faced and

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Speaker 3: beaten two Democratic politicians before, kids never faced someone like me.

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Speaker 3: You want a different kind of outcome, here comes your

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Speaker 3: different kind of Democrat to get it done.

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Speaker 1: When you talk to people in the Hudson Valley, what

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Speaker 1: are they concerned about?

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Speaker 3: It really is, Malli, how they're going to pay their

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Speaker 3: bills and how their kids are going to pay their

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Speaker 3: bills and have a future. And that takes a lot

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Speaker 3: of different forms, right, you know, And I often have

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Speaker 3: conversations with folks who are like, I don't understand how

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Speaker 3: someone who believes in democracy or human rights could vote

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Speaker 3: for Trump or Lawlor And I explained that I meet

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Speaker 3: a lot of these people, and they're very good people.

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Speaker 3: You know, they do care about these things, but what

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Speaker 3: they have to vote on and care about first is

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Speaker 3: how they're going to pay their electric bill next month,

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Speaker 3: and they don't know how. And so when you talk

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Speaker 3: about the issues that people need government to step up

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Speaker 3: and address, and where we've been failing it truly is

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Speaker 3: everything from housing availability to the cost of energy. Every

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Speaker 3: one of our utility providers in New York seventeen is

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Speaker 3: seeking a double digit rate increase at a time where

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Speaker 3: we already have one point two million Americans behind on

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Speaker 3: their electric bills. It just keeps coming on, Molly, layer

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Speaker 3: after layer after layer.

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Speaker 1: Why should Americans pay for tech companies to build data centers?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: Why is that electricity being built to American people?

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Speaker 3: So I think this goes down to a lot of

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Speaker 3: the state and local zoning agreements and a different arrangements

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Speaker 3: that are made. I agree with you. If we are

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Speaker 3: going to have a data center in a community, then

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Speaker 3: the community should benefit through the investment in the infrastructure

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Speaker 3: that the data center is going to be using. Right,

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Speaker 3: If you're going to draw the electricity the water, then

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Speaker 3: invest in that infrastructure so the community benefits from the

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Speaker 3: upgrade to and isn't stuck paying the bill literally and figurably.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, talk us through. So people are worried about affordability.

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Speaker 5: That's the big issue, one hundred percent affordability, but also

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Speaker 5: economic opportunity, right because when you talk to people there

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Speaker 5: can scerarned about how are they going to put food

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Speaker 5: on the table, a roof over their heads, keep the

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Speaker 5: lights and the heat on, afford healthcare, But then they

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Speaker 5: also care about how they're going to give their kids

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Speaker 5: a better opportunity, and.

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Speaker 3: That is where you see things like student debt weighing

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Speaker 3: down families. How the challenges in recent college graduates not

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Speaker 3: being able to find jobs, or if they can, jobs

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Speaker 3: that aren't allowing them to pay the bills. And so

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Speaker 3: it is that it is not just the cost of living,

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Speaker 3: but the concern over what's it going to be like

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Speaker 3: for the next generation, for my kids or my grandkids.

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Speaker 3: And that is very real. You know, it's the first

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Speaker 3: time in modern American history the economic prospects of the

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Speaker 3: young Americans are worse than their parents or grandparents. Again,

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Speaker 3: I just keep saying this like that is failure that

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Speaker 3: we should be focused on addressing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, can you talk about just give us one thing

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Speaker 1: you would do in Congress to make American life more

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Speaker 1: affordable for people.

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Speaker 3: So one of the initiatives that I'm I'm very passionate

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Speaker 3: about expanding on is the VA loan program for public servants.

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Speaker 3: So when I was an Army officer, I could not

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Speaker 3: afford twenty percent down to buy a home. I didn't

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Speaker 3: make enough money to do that. But the VA loan

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Speaker 3: essentially is a method in which the government guarantees your

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Speaker 3: loan in a way with the lender that you don't

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Speaker 3: have to put the twenty percent down. If we are

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Speaker 3: looking at trying to encourage people to pursue these critical

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Speaker 3: public sector fields like nursing, like education, right like first responders,

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Speaker 3: is statablishing a public service VA loan equivalent where these

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Speaker 3: people who are investing in their communities, the communities invest

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Speaker 3: back in them and allow them to buy homes in

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Speaker 3: the communities they are serving because Molly, right now, many

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Speaker 3: cannot And this isn't something where anyone's getting a handout,

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Speaker 3: No one's getting money. It's just allowing them to purchase

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Speaker 3: something without having the twenty percent for a down payment

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Speaker 3: that is often unachievable because of things like student loans

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Speaker 3: that people might and younger are saddled with. You know,

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Speaker 3: and I will tell you that's another issue that I

945
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Speaker 3: want to press us hard on. Why are we not

946
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Speaker 3: capping the interest rates on federal student loans?

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Speaker 1: Why? Yeah, I know, why not? Kate? I hope you win.

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Speaker 1: Please come back while.

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Speaker 3: We're going to kick ass because these stakes like Dailire's

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Speaker 3: is not an option.

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Speaker 1: So he knows I'm coming for him.

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Speaker 3: The people they want better and they deserve better. So

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Speaker 3: here we go, thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: No mormal full of Jesse Cannon smile.

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Speaker 2: We don't usually do foreign politics, but I think this

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Speaker 2: is very interesting. Paris prosecutors have rated X's offices as

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Speaker 2: part of an investigation into child abuse of ages. And

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Speaker 2: why this is interesting for America is this is the

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Speaker 2: first time that X's recklessness is being brought up and

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Speaker 2: really having to answer for. I keep thinking about something

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Speaker 2: you said to me a while back when renee Good

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Speaker 2: was murdered. As you said, you know, we didn't used

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Speaker 2: to see snuff films before Elon started doing all of

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Speaker 2: this on X. And this right here could be the

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Speaker 2: beginning of the end of that. Let's help.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So Europe has some tech regulations, a sharp contrast

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Speaker 1: from America, where we have no tech regulations because Chuck

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Speaker 1: Schumer's daughter works at Meta, let's be honest here, and

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Speaker 1: because Republicans want to get you know that sweet sweet

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Speaker 1: AI money. Look, I don't know what happens here. It's

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Speaker 1: good to see Europeans trying to put some regulation on

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Speaker 1: any of this. We'll see. It's a pretty interesting moment here.

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Speaker 1: And you know, Elon Musk has worked really hard to

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Speaker 1: try to influence elections in Europe. And he's done a

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Speaker 1: lot of really really really really questionable this with American

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Speaker 1: elections and European elections, and he's tried to intervene in

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Speaker 1: all sorts of ways. Let's see what happens here. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, but look, I think tech regulation is you know,

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Speaker 1: you and I both really believe that tech regulation is good.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if more comes along with that. That's it

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