1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Welcome in his verdict with Senator Ted Cruz ben Ferguson 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: with you. It's really nice to have you with us 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: on this Wednesday morning. And Senator, we've got two big 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: topics to discuss today, including something in the Senate that 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: got a little spicy between you and Cory Booker. 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: Well, it did so yesterday I charity hearing that was 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: examining the abuse of power from individual district court judges 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: who are issuing nationwide injunctions against President Trump and the 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 2: Trump administration. And this is the latest iteration of lawfair. 10 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: This is in the last four years, we saw Democrat 11 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 2: prosecutors indict Donald Trump four separate times. That that was 12 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 2: they were doing everything they could to stop the voters 13 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: from re electing President Trump. 14 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 3: That failed. 15 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: Now during the Trump presidency, we are seeing lawfair unfold. 16 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: We are seeing Democrat attorneys general filing lawsuits every single day. 17 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: We are seeing left wing activist groups filing lawsuits every day, 18 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: and they are seeking out radical left wing judges who've 19 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: been appointed in very blue districts. And what we have 20 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: seen is we have seen over forty nationwide injunctions against 21 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: the Trump administration. Now, to give you a sense of 22 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: just how egregious this is. In the first one hundred 23 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 2: and fifty years of our nation's history, Ben, do you 24 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: know how many nationwide injunctions were issued. 25 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: I have no idea, but I'm guessing comparing it to 26 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,199 Speaker 1: forty it's not going to be a lot. 27 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: The number would be zero. So the first one hundred 28 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: and fifty years of our nation's history, there was not 29 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: a single nationwide injunction that was issued. Now, how about 30 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: the twentieth century, the twentieth century, the entire hundred years 31 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: from nineteen hundred to nineteen ninety nine, there have been 32 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: more nationwide injunctions issued against the Trump administration in the 33 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: first five months than there were in the entire twentieth century. 34 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 2: There have also been more nationwide injunctions issued against Trump 35 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: than there have been during the George W. Bush presidency, 36 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: plus the Barack Obama presidency, plus the Joe Biden presidency 37 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: all combined. This is an assault. You have left wing judges, 38 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: individual radical district judges who are issuing injunctions, trying to 39 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 2: set aside the policies of the president and trying to 40 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: set aside the will of the American voters. And it 41 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: is an assault in democracy, and I got to say 42 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: Democrats not only are okay with it, they're enthusiastically cheering 43 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 2: it on. 44 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: It really is shocking, and the level of I think 45 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: attack is obviously, as you mentioned, very clear. It is 46 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: these judges are saying, we're going to take away the 47 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: power of the presidency. The danger there is aspect of 48 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: that precedent is also something that I would hope that 49 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: many people that maybe consider themselves to be moderate or 50 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: liberal would be concerned about, because that's not how this 51 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: country is supposed to work now. 52 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 2: It should not be an individual district judge having the 53 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: ability to set aside the policies of the United States government, 54 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: the president of the United States, and the policies that 55 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: the voters voted on. Look, I think the single biggest 56 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: issue in this last election was the voters were sick 57 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 2: and tired of the open borders we saw for four 58 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: years the invasion of twelve million illegal immigrants, and they 59 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: wanted a president to secure the border and to deport murderers, rapists, 60 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: child molesters, violent Venezuelan gang members. That's what Donald Trump 61 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: is doing. And we are seeing the Democrats who are 62 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: suing over and over again and they're getting radical left 63 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: wing judges to issue orders saying stop deport in criminals 64 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: and it's lawless. By the way, federal immigration law gives 65 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: enormous power to the president to deport illegal immigrants, and 66 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: these radical judges they don't care. And I will tell 67 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 2: you as we were discussing this in this hearing, So 68 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: the Democrats all showed up for this hearing and they 69 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 2: were loaded for bear, and they were all attacking President Trump. 70 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: That was no surprise. And they were saying that the 71 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: President is horribly saying mean, mean things about judges. And 72 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: mind you, these are judges who are dramatically abusing their power. 73 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 2: And yet the Democrats were all pretending to be horrified 74 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: that the President would criticize judges. Now, I want to 75 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 2: play for you in exchange I had I was talking 76 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: about the hypocrisy of Democrats who are claiming to be 77 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: defending judges. And yet when Joe Biden was president and 78 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 2: you had violent mobs protesting outside the homes of Supreme 79 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: Court justices, the Democrats said not a word. They were 80 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 2: not bothered at all that the Biden Justice Department refused 81 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: to enforce the criminal law that makes it a crime 82 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 2: to protest and outside the home of a justice and 83 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: to threaten the justice's families as they were. And there 84 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 2: was an exchange. So Corey Booker, he's a Democrat on 85 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: the Judiciary Committee. Corey wants to run for president. He 86 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: wants to run as the great Liberal hope. And Corey 87 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 2: decided to engage with me and attack me on this issue. 88 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: And he and I went back and forth. And I 89 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 2: want to play this entire exchange. It's a little bit extended, 90 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: but this exchange was striking because he jumped in and 91 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: he's like, no, no, no, I'm going to fight you 92 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: on this point. And I've got to say, I don't 93 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: want to be a spoiler here, but I don't think 94 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 2: it went well for Corey. Give a listen. 95 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: It did not. 96 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: Here it is indulge me for a moment. 97 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 2: We indulge you every moment. 98 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 3: I appreciate that active generosity. It's just something you said 99 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 3: that I think is actually dangerous and should be addressed. 100 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: And you're welcome. But when Judge Errol was killed in 101 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 3: New Jersey, the Republican colleagues in the Senate, they're outpouring 102 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 3: of support, their outpouring of concern. They're willing to work 103 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 3: together on a bipartisan bill was extraordinary. It shows the 104 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 3: truth of this institution that despite some of the fiery 105 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 3: rhetoric that you were selling, we're really by parties working bipartisanship. 106 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 3: Cornin and Coombs, after the incidents you're talking about, got 107 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 3: together and actually passed a bill to better protect our 108 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 3: Supreme Court justices, many of whom are friends of ours. 109 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 3: You know, Gorsich and I disagree on a lot of stuff. 110 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: I knew his wife before he did. We studied together 111 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 3: at Oxford. This implication that there was silence when there 112 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: were threats on their people's houses is absolutely absurd. I 113 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 3: remember the rhetoric and the comments, the concern from Coons. 114 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 3: I actually distinctly remember you, Chairman, are more than once 115 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: condemning those attacks on Republican appointed jurists. To say things 116 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 3: like that feeds just the partisanship in this institution and 117 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: feeds the fiery rhetoric. And it's just plain not true. 118 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 3: It's just plain not true. And I think you know that. 119 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 3: But we can pull from the record from my colleagues 120 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 3: in real time, literally days afterwards condemning it. There's a 121 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 3: lot of substantive things to say here, but to think 122 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 3: that the lack of humanity when people's homes are being 123 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 3: threatened was not in existence. I think that's unfair and 124 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 3: really concerns me that you would say that in the 125 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: way that you did. Well. 126 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: I thank my colleague from New Jersey. I will note, 127 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: as John Adams observed, that facts are stubborn things, and 128 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: it is existing Federal law eighteen USC. Section fifteen oh 129 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: seven that makes it a crime to protest at a 130 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: judge's home. And the law provides whoever, with the intent 131 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: of interfering, with, obstructing, or impeding the administration of justice, 132 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: or with the intent or of influencing any judge, duror witness, 133 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: or court officer in the discharge of his duty, pickets 134 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: or parades in or near a building housing a court 135 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: of the United States, inter near a building or residence 136 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: occupied or used by such judge, juror witness, or court officer, 137 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: or with such intent uses any sound, truck or similar device, 138 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: or resorts to any other demonstration in or near any 139 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: such building or residence, shall be fined under this title 140 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: or imprisoned not more than one year, or both. That 141 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: is federal criminal law. Night after night after night, angry 142 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: mobs were outside the Supreme Court justices homes, and in 143 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: the entire course of it, the Biden Justice Department prosecuted nobody. 144 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: We had the Attorney General sitting at that table, and 145 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: multiple Republican senators asked him, why are you not enforcing 146 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: the law. What they are doing is a crime. And 147 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 2: my friend in New Jersey said, it is a lie 148 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 2: to say we the Democrats condone this. I would challenge 149 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 2: my friend find a single Democrat senator on this committee 150 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: holding the Attorney General to account for not enforcing this law. 151 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 2: I was here at those hearings, and I do not 152 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 2: recall a single Democrat senator saying to the Attorney General, 153 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: you should arrest these people who are violating the law. 154 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: You should protect the judges. I agree that there was 155 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 2: general language against violence, but not a single Democrat senator 156 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: that I ever saw in this committee was willing to 157 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: hold Attorney General Merrick Garland to account for flagrantly disregarding 158 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 2: the federal criminal law. Because the Biden administration agreed with 159 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: the protesters and I think wanted those justices haurrassed at 160 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 2: their home. 161 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: I really appreciate that you've now shifted the accusation you 162 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 3: made earlier. Your accusation was that we were silent in 163 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 3: the face of protests as Supreme Court justices homes again, 164 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 3: we joined together in a bi parisan way not only 165 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 3: to condemn that, but to pass legislation to extend round 166 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 3: the clock security protection literally days was introduced May fifth 167 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 3: past the Senate bi partisan fashion on May night. So 168 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 3: if you're saying that we didn't criticize them. 169 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 2: And arrest a single person on who are now changing 170 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: the that is? 171 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 3: That is what I say again. I'll I'll pull the record. 172 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 3: It's arrest even one again. 173 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: The answer is not my. 174 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 3: Point to you. Who is the accusation that the Democrats 175 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 3: on this committee do not care about the safety of 176 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 3: federal judges. I did not interrupt you, sir. I would 177 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: appreciate if you let me finish. I am sick and 178 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: tired of hearing the kind of heated partisan rhetoric, which 179 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 3: is one of the reasons why we have such divisions 180 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 3: in this country. The attacks we see from the President 181 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 3: of the United States of America, trolling and dragging judges 182 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 3: through is to what we should be talking about. That 183 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 3: puts people in danger. I'm simply taking issue with the 184 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 3: claim that you made at the top that people on 185 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 3: the Democratic side of the aisle do not care about 186 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 3: the safety and the security of judges and said nothing. 187 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: You said we were silent after people's houses were protested. 188 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 3: That is a patent lie, sir. We were not silent. 189 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 3: We took action. We've joined in a bipartisan way to 190 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 3: protect those judges, as was done in a bipartisan way 191 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 3: to protect a New Jersey judge after their horrific attack 192 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 3: at their home. So I see you now trying to 193 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 3: shift the debate to whether we talk to an attorney general. 194 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 3: I'm simply taking issue with this accusation that somehow we 195 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 3: Democrats are so bad because we don't call out threats 196 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 3: to college to our judicial colleagues, and that is wrong. 197 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 3: You could change the argument now that you want, but 198 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 3: what you said was patently not true and was in 199 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 3: fact a patent lie. 200 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 2: So I do enjoy the fact that my colleague from 201 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: New Jersey raises his voice and says it's a patent lie, 202 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: and says he's doing so in defense of lowering the rhetoric. 203 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: There is some irony to doing those two together. I'll 204 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 2: point out that in the entire course of those remarks, 205 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 2: Senator Booker did not dispute the central point I made, 206 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 2: which is the Biden Justice Department arrested zero people, prosecuted 207 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 2: zero people for violating the criminal law, and every Democrat 208 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 2: senator on this committee was silent about it. And this 209 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 2: was an ongoing pattern four months. And I would note 210 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 2: also that the Senator from New Jersey clutched his pearls 211 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: about language threatening judges, and yet I do not recall 212 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: a single Democrat senator of this committee saying a word 213 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: when Chuck Schumer went to the steps of the Supreme 214 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 2: Court and threatened the safety of the Supreme Court justices 215 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: by name Gorsitchen Kavanaugh, and he said, you have unleashed 216 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: the whirlwind and you will pay the price. And not 217 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: a single Democrat senator had a word to say about this, 218 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 2: And so their outrage is selective. And I will give 219 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: my colleague from New Jersey a chance to just answer 220 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 2: a simple yes, no question. Should the Biden Justice Department 221 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: have enforced the criminal law against protesting at a justice's home, 222 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: Yes or no. 223 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 3: So the rank hypocrisy of Chuck Schumer apologizing the next 224 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 3: day and you holding that standard for him, and not 225 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 3: for your president, who you actually rightfully describe when you 226 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 3: were running against him in a primary. I would love 227 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 3: to run those tapes of how you perfectly talked about 228 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 3: the danger of our president and his rhetoric. But now 229 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 3: you are failing in fact blind to the very things 230 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 3: you're accusing Chuck Schumer of. I don't think Donald Trump 231 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 3: would know an apology if it hit him in the head, 232 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 3: never set apologizing. So again, you are very very sir, 233 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 3: very very deep into the waters of hypocrisy in your 234 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 3: criticisms of Chuck Schumer. 235 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 2: So let the record reflect that Spartacus did not answer 236 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 2: the question and did not tell us whether the criminal 237 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 2: law should be enforced, because he knows the answer is yes, 238 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: and he knows that the Biden Department of Justice was 239 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: being wildly political and partisan in refusing to enforce the 240 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: law because they disagreed with the Supreme Court justice's rulings. 241 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: That was one very entertaining back and forth center. I 242 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: wish there was actually more of this in the Senate 243 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: because it's a great moment where you can see two 244 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: very different viewpoints, two very different ways of looking at this, 245 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: and like you said, it did not go well for 246 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: Corey Booker, but I actually love that there's this type 247 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: of grand debate. 248 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: Absolutely, we need to have this engagement. We need to 249 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: have this engagement on ideas, and it's striking the Democrats. 250 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: They claim they support democracy, but yet when it comes 251 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 2: to Donald Trump, they want a single unelected district judge 252 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: striking down every policy he implements. And they don't care 253 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: that the American people voted for it. They want power. 254 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: And look, in the course of this hearing, there were 255 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 2: a couple of points I made that no Democrat had 256 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 2: a response to. Number one, these lawsuits are being filed 257 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: over and over again before radical left wing judges. Of 258 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: the forty plus nationwide injunctions that have been issued against 259 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: the Trump administration, thirty five of them have been in five jurisdictions, 260 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: five left wing jurisdictions. They're seeking out these left wing 261 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 2: judges because they know that they'll rule for them, and 262 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: the Democrat defense is, well, gosh, Trump is just violating 263 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: the law. Well, you know what, if that were true, 264 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: you'd be willing to file the cases anywhere. But you're not. 265 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: The Democrat attorneys general, the left wing interest groups are 266 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 2: going to seek out the radicals because they know the 267 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 2: radicals will rule for them, and we're not seeing Democrat 268 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 2: senators defend that position. We're not seeing them say, give 269 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 2: any explanation as to why one radical judge should be 270 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: able to set aside nationwide the policies of the President 271 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: of the United States, who was elected by the American 272 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: people to secure the borders, to bring us back to 273 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: common sense positions. And so I think this hearing was important, 274 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 2: and I got to say, I think Corey Booker listen, 275 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 2: Corey is running for president of the United States. That's 276 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: not complicated. He's going to run in twenty twenty eight, 277 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: and he's running in the left lane of the Democrat Party. 278 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: So he's going to take on Elizabeth Warren, he's going 279 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 2: to take on AOC and he's going to argue, I 280 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: am liberal Democrat here mirror. But at the end of 281 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: the day, trying to appeal to those radicals, you got 282 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: a problem of you actually got to address the substance, 283 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 2: and I think today we did and it was not 284 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: the outcome he was hoping for. 285 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: It certainly was not. And it's one of those moments 286 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: that I'll be interested to see when this audio and 287 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: video comes back to haunt him down the road when 288 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: that president run you mentioned, because I think he thought 289 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: he was about to have a moment and it's not 290 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: the moment he probably was hoping for if you go 291 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: back and look at that tape. I want to also 292 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: get to this other big issue, and that is out 293 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: in Colorado and the tear attack there. We've got a 294 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: significant update on this individual and also real concerns and 295 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: honesty now coming from the administration about the real threat 296 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: of other terrorists that may be in this country that 297 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: were led into this country by the Biden and Harris administration. 298 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: Well, it turns out that four years of open borders 299 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 2: allowing over twelve million people to come into this country illegally, 300 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 2: that was a really bad point. And even worse, look, 301 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 2: there were ten million people who were apprehended by the 302 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 2: Biden administration. They let them go. That is problematic on 303 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 2: many many fronts, But the most disturbing number is two million. 304 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: They're roughly two million god aways. Those are people that 305 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 2: crossed the border. We know cross the border, but yet 306 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 2: they escaped detection. And those god aways are much much 307 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: more likely to be criminals. They're much more likely to 308 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: be murders, rapists, child molesters, terrorists, gang members. And if 309 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 2: you look at this, this radical who attacked and fire 310 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 2: bombed the peaceful Jewish protesters in Boulder, Colorado, this was 311 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 2: a guy who never should have been in this country 312 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 2: to begin with. He came in on a tourist fe 313 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 2: SA he overstated, and this was a radical Islamist. And 314 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 2: I want to read to you a tweet from Bill Malusion. Now, 315 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 2: regular listeners of this podcast know Bill Malusian is the 316 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 2: best reporter in America. He reports for Fox News and 317 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 2: he's been detailing what's going on at the border. Here's 318 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 2: what Bill Malusion tweeted, breaking new details on Colorado terror 319 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 2: attack suspect as Fedes charged him with federal hate crime, 320 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 2: according to federal court filings obtained by Fox News, Egyptian 321 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 2: illegal alien Mohammed Solomon admitted in an interview that he 322 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: wanted to kill all quote Zionist people, and he had 323 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 2: been planning the attack for a year, and that he 324 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: would conduct the attack again if he could. He allegedly 325 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 2: told investigators that he waited to carry out the attack 326 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 2: until his daughter graduated high school, and that he specifically 327 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: targeted the quote Zionist group in Boulder after learning about 328 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 2: them from an online search. It was premeditated, as he 329 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 2: allegedly admitted he knew they would gather on Sunday at 330 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: one pm, he arrived and waited for them. Additionally, investigators 331 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 2: found a black container with fourteen more molotov cocktails near 332 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 2: the spot he was arrested in. Inside his vehicle, investigators 333 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 2: found paperwork with the words Israel, Palestine, and USAID. This 334 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 2: man was admitted into the country via a tourist visa 335 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: during the Biden administration. He overstayed, filed an asylum request, 336 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 2: and was granted work authorization by the Biden administration, which 337 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: expired at the end of March of this year. So understand, 338 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 2: this guy came into this country, he overstayed his visa, 339 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: and yet the Biden administration said, hey, look a radical 340 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 2: Islamic terrorist. We want you to stay. It was not 341 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 2: hard to figure out from his social media who this 342 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 2: guy was. But the Biden administration, they were not focused 343 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 2: on defending this nation. They were not focused on stopping 344 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 2: terrorists from coming into this country. Instead, they made a 345 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 2: political decision. I get asked all the time, Ben, why 346 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 2: would Democrats open up the borders. It clearly hurt them 347 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,479 Speaker 2: in the flat last election. Why would they do this? 348 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: And I believe it was entirely about power. They viewed 349 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 2: twelve million illegal immigrants, they said, listen, every one of 350 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: these we think are going to vote for Democrats. We 351 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 2: want them in here. Some portion of them will vote illegally. 352 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 2: The rest of them, they believed, if they stayed in power, 353 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: they'd grant amnesty and make them all voters. And if 354 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 2: they have to bring in Muslim Brotherhood terrorists who were 355 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: murdering people, sadly, the Democrats were willing to do that. 356 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: This is the part that I really think we do 357 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: need to make it clear, not just now but in 358 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: the future. The Democratic Party, and you alluded to this 359 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: in your comments there. Their plan they knew was going 360 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: to have disastrous consequences from a national security standpoint. They 361 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,719 Speaker 1: were willing to play Russian Roulette with that open border. 362 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: And they were warned and they saw the people that 363 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: were on the terrorists watch list center and they didn't 364 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: care because it was their overall plan to flood the 365 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: country with the legal immigrants and fundamentally changes country. They 366 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: knew this plan would allow for people that are terrorists, 367 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: some of them on the terrorists watch lists at the 368 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: time to get into this country, and they still continued 369 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: to have the open border policy because they basically said, Hey, 370 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: it's part of our bigger plan, and there's going to 371 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: be collateral damage from. 372 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 2: This, so be it and listen when I say this, 373 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 2: this sounds harsh, and you sort of think of a 374 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 2: listener who's not terribly political and they're like, wait, the 375 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 2: Democrats couldn't really want more terrorists in this country. But 376 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, that was the inevitable 377 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: consequence of the policies they put in place. When you 378 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 2: allow twelve million people to cross the border illegally, and 379 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 2: by the way, the Biden Border Control the border patrol, 380 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 2: they instructed their agents be on the lookout for hesbela 381 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 2: Hamas Palestinian Islamic Jehad terrorists coming across this border. Look, 382 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 2: we have radical Zealots who have declared Jahad and America 383 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 2: who have demanded of their terrorists murder as many Americans 384 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 2: as you can and murder as many Jews and Israelis 385 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 2: as you can. And in the face of those very 386 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 2: real and clear national security threats, the fact that the 387 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 2: Biden administration and the Democrats, it wasn't just Joe Biden, 388 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 2: it wasn't just Kamala Harris. It was every single Democrat 389 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: in the Senate. It was every single Democrat in the House. 390 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 2: Because they voted in favor of open borders over and 391 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: over and over again, they knew that some of the 392 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 2: people coming were just like this radical and listen, I've 393 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 2: reintroduced this week legislation to designate the Muslim Brotherhood as 394 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 2: a terrorist organization. The Muslim Brotherhood. 395 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: This is something you've been sounding the alarm on for 396 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: quite some time. I want to be very clear about that. 397 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 2: So I've been fighting for this legislation for more than 398 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 2: a decade. The Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist organization. It 399 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 2: is in countries throughout the Middle East. It is in Egypt, 400 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 2: it is in cutter it is all across the Middle East. 401 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 2: And the Muslim Brotherhood openly aggressively they support hamas they 402 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 2: support Hesbela. They are a terrorist organization and by the way, 403 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 2: to be clear, in Egypt, they're an actual political party. Look, 404 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: we had Mohammed Morsey who was the leader of e 405 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 2: who was a Muslim Brotherhood radical. Now now thankfully Mohammed 406 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 2: Morsey was defeated and he was defeated by Alcesi, who 407 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 2: is fighting against the Muslim Brotherhood. Look, look if you 408 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: look at the Arabs who are dealing with this, the 409 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 2: Muslim Brotherhood and the Jihadis, they believe in using violence, 410 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: using murder to force people to embrace their radical Islamus view. 411 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 2: And yet these are these are the radicals that are fighting, 412 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,719 Speaker 2: that that are murdering Israelis, and that are murdering Americans. 413 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: And and this is exactly the radicals that this lunatic 414 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 2: in Boulder, Colorado was embracing, and that Joe Biden, the 415 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 2: Democrats were letting endo this country. 416 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: Final question on the on the the designate of Muslim 417 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: Brotherhood is a terrorist organization. Is this finally going to 418 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 1: be the moment where you think there's a decent, there's 419 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: a chance that this can become reality, or there's still 420 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: going to be Democrats at all costs that say we 421 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:06,479 Speaker 1: are going to defend this. 422 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 2: So I hope so so right now today, the Muslim 423 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 2: Brotherhood is designated as a terrorist organization in Saudi Arabia, 424 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 2: they're designated in the United Arab Emirates, They're designated in Egypt, 425 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 2: in Syria and Bahrain. But the United States has yet 426 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 2: to designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. When 427 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: you have a group that actively encourages the waging of jahad, 428 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 2: the murdering of innocence, they are a terrorist organization. And 429 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 2: so I pressed, I pressed the entire first Trump term 430 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 2: for the Muslim Brotherhood to be designated. We did not succeed. 431 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 2: I think we will succeed this administration. I think President 432 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 2: Trump is going to do this, and I'm going to 433 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 2: keep pressing designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization 434 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 2: because because that is who they are, and we saw 435 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 2: the horrific and potentially deadly consequences this week in Boulder, Colorado. 436 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: It's an incredible story and it's a sad one. It's 437 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: also one that we must keep following and keep fighting 438 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: to protect American citizens. And we're gonna keep keeping you 439 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: updated on this story moving forward here on VERDIC. I 440 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: promise you that don't forget. 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