1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: I am all in. Oh, let's kiss you. I am 2 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: all in with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. 3 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast Miniso 4 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: here one on one interview. Uh. I Heart Radios one 5 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: of theven productions. And we have Brandon Barash, who appeared 6 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: in uh Those Lazy, Hazy Crazy Days, episode one, season three, 7 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: that's when we first seem last time we seems as 8 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: Jamie in season four, episode twelve, Family Matter. Welcome to 9 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: the show, Brandon, How are you doing? Heyy, good to 10 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: see you, guys. Good to see you, Brandon, So thanks 11 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: for coming on. Of course, thanks for Yeah. Man, you 12 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: played the role of Jamie when Gilmore Grows for three 13 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: episodes two thousand to two thousand four, student at Princeton, 14 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: Paris's very first boyfriend. Um, you were also So that 15 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: was the first time. Last time we saw you was 16 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: season four, episode twelve A Family Matter. So we have 17 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: that to look forward to from St. Louis. Uh. You 18 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: lived in Missouri, Texas, California. Family business is Oh my goodness, 19 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: really wow? Damn? What else do you know about? Look 20 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: at this guy? Wow? We need to talk. Yeah, I 21 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: know all about that company. Cisco. Yeah, I do. How 22 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: do you know about Cisco because I have a coffee company. 23 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: We're trying to get in, yes, and we know that 24 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: we know there the beverage, the beverage portion of that 25 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: businesses is quite large. In the coffee slice of the 26 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: beverage business is something I wanted to try to get 27 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: a piece of, but it's very difficult to get a meeting. 28 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: So you went to USC you got a degree. Wow, 29 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: you're on the West Wing Criminal Minds, and you've been 30 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: on General Hospital two thousand seventeen and two thousand sixteen, 31 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: and since two thousand nineteen you've been on Days of 32 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: Our Lives. You're working your butt off. You play Jake Demera. 33 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: So let's talk about the first time you got the role, 34 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: and uh, tell us how you got the part? All right? 35 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: So I was, I was fresh out of college, all right. 36 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: I had gotten to use a douche industry term, hip 37 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: pocketed by an agency from our senior showcase, which for 38 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: non industry people basically means they'll kind of see something 39 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: in you, but they don't like you enough to say, yes, 40 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna sign you and you're gonna take up space 41 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: on our roster. Hey, Brad, Brad Pitt was hip pocketed. 42 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: There you go, And so I would get pocketed by 43 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: this agency. And one of the first auditions they sent 44 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: me out on it was Gilmore Girls. I was working 45 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: at Nordstrom selling clothing at the time, and drove to 46 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: Warner Brothers on my lunch break, drove back, found out 47 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 1: when I got back, I got a call back. Cool, 48 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: So the callback was scheduled for a day when I 49 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: was supposed to be in Manhattan Beach on like a 50 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: staycation hero. Right. This was before smartphones. Okay, this is 51 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: when we still had to take out the Thomas Guide 52 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: right and page L four and then continue to page 53 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: like a six point three. And we didn't have ways. 54 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: The point is, so I couldn't gauge how much traffic 55 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: there was going to be from Manhattan Beach to Warner Brothers. 56 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: I miscalculated, uh really really badly, not in my favor. 57 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: And it was about an hour late to my audition. 58 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: All right. Called my manager on the way. I said, 59 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm would be an hour late. Should I just turn around? 60 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: He's like, no, I just go. I walked in the 61 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: room and I just started making fun of myself about 62 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: how late I was because it was the only thing 63 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: I could think I could do, and made some really 64 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: terrible jokes in the process, and uh walked out of 65 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: the audition not knowing what the hell had just happened, 66 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: and was driving home and found out I booked the 67 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: part and it was, Yeah, it was. It was the 68 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: coolest feeling ever because I don't know my sad card right, 69 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: So they, you know, taft Hart lead me in and 70 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: and it was it's a big set, uh, And I thought, great, 71 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go quit my job now because it's only 72 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: up and up from here. And cut to five years later, 73 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: I was still working in retail, but five years later 74 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: I was able to finally quit my day jobs. Oh good. Um. Yeah, 75 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: So what do you remember about your first Dawn set? 76 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: I was freaked out, as as is evident by my 77 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: brilliant acting um in that first episode in any I mean, 78 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: I was my acting chops were not up for the 79 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: television when I did go more girls. But that's okay, 80 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: So I didn't notice anything. You did a fine job. 81 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: What are you talking about anyway? You're too kinds, You're 82 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: two kinds. You you you you filled the role perfectly. Yeah, 83 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: it was just I couldn't get out of my head though. 84 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: You know, as young actors, like the biggest hurdle that 85 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: we have is to just tell that voice to shut 86 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: the hell up, right, you know, the voice is like, 87 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: how's this going? Are they? Like? Am I making senses? 88 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: I don't even know what my scene partner just said, 89 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say in my line. It was just 90 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: I was so in my head on all the episodes. 91 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: So you only have you only have one voice, not voices. Well, 92 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: I'm only telling you about the ones I got you yet, 93 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, so anyway, no, I mean I was I 94 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: didn't know, you know, my ass from my elbow on 95 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: a set at usc which is where I went. I 96 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: got my degree in theater, and I could have moved 97 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: to New York the day after graduation and established myself 98 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: as a really great theater actor. They only and I 99 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,559 Speaker 1: think the curriculum has changed since, but they only gave 100 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: us I think two classes um auditioning for the camera 101 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: and acting for the camera. And they were just kind 102 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: of thrown in at the end of our curriculum. So, 103 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: you know, hitting a mark, we not not once we 104 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: were heard sitting a market. So it was just all 105 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: this new information swirling around in my head. I was 106 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: a nervous wreck. But I guess I made it work. 107 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: You did, you know? Yeah? You you blended in perfectly. 108 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: I mean it was all a good buddy um. Anyway, 109 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: so you had what we all described a perfect Princeton 110 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: preppy vibe going, uh, tell us, tell us what you 111 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: remember about that character. I remember in you know, throughout 112 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: the audition process, the note I kept getting was young 113 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton, think young phil It okay. And this is 114 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: of course after the getting on the whole thing. I 115 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: was like, well, which which part about Bill Clinton's life 116 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: in my emulating year? Just to be clear, be careful, 117 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: should I take a cigar into the mission room or 118 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: and so you know, the notes I kept getting were 119 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: think young Bill Clinton and speak faster, okay. And so 120 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: it was, you know, just trying to negotiate again all 121 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: of those things that the cameras, the lights, the booms, 122 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: the you know, the the mind splitting silence of a 123 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: TV set or a movie set, right, and so it 124 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: was just, yeah, young Bill Clinton is what I keep 125 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: remembering from that whole process. Yeah, that's very interesting, very interesting. 126 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: Um so paris uh fell for Jamie at first. Uh, 127 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: pretty hard, you know, pretty hard. She was her first point. 128 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: What do you think about the character of Paris. I, well, 129 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: I'm Eliza was great. I'm sure she still was great. 130 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: Um speaking about her like she's not here anymore. But yeah, 131 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: she was great to work with. Uh, she was. Paris 132 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: was intense and uh I think you know, I think 133 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: Jamie enjoyed that. It was it was a different Uh. 134 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: You know, he wasn't used to that. You know, he 135 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: was kind of a slower speed kind of guy. But 136 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: he was just along for the ride until we all 137 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: know he wasn't we all know what happened there? Um? 138 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: Would you have liked to see that relationship continue on 139 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: through the series? My career would have loved that. Look, 140 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not an happy worrying might now I'm 141 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: very happy, but back then, yeah, yeah, I was bummed 142 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: out for sure when when I found out that she 143 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: had left Jamie for an older man and Jamie's time 144 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: and was it stars hollow? Is that right? Was it 145 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: was over? So you were born into the Cisco food business. Um, 146 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: did you did? Did your parents support you when you 147 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: were announced you were going into acting or did your 148 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: dad wants you to come in uh to that business 149 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: so he could teach you that business. Was there any 150 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: pressure there? What was the reaction like when he said 151 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: I'm going I want to go to USC and get 152 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 1: a theater degree. It was well, I mean, look, the 153 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: food business was was a very important part of my 154 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: family's history. They immigrated here from Ukraine, actually a town 155 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: called She told me, um, you know back hundred sixteen 156 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: years ago when they were doing the same thing they're 157 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: doing now, except they were singling out juice. And so 158 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: they came here and they started. My great grandfather started 159 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: a fruit stand, and the fruit stand, this is a 160 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: long story short turned into the biggest seafood purveyor in 161 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: the Midwest. He didn't make the best decisions, you know. 162 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: At that point my dad was working with the company 163 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: as well. The company went under. So then my dad 164 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: got offered a great job from H. B. Cisco Cisco 165 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: Foods out in Los Angeles when I was I think 166 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: three years old, so that's when we moved out here. 167 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, I come from a very kind of corporate family. Conservative, 168 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: not in like the political sense me no conservative now, 169 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: but conservative and that you know, you should be a doctor, 170 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: lawyer or do something corporate. And so when I got 171 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: accepted by USC into their b f A program which 172 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 1: only accepts ten to twenty students a year, and my 173 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: dad said, well, you'd be silly not to not to 174 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: take that UM. And at the time I wanted to 175 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 1: do Uh, I was really torn because my whole m 176 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: you know, young life, I'd wanted to be a doctor. 177 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: I wanted to be a cardiaco with the pedic search. 178 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: That was like, that was my jam. Science was my jam. 179 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: The human body, you know, I just I couldn't get 180 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: enough of it. I still can't. But two years, about 181 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: a year and a half into college, I was, you know, 182 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: taking twenty two units a semester. I was in classroom 183 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: eight in the morning to ten at night between classes 184 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: and theater rehearsals. And finally, halfway through my sophomore year, 185 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, I'm doing fine at both of these things, 186 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 1: but I'm not. I'm not excelling it one. And if 187 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: I'm honest with myself, me, you know, going through the 188 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: premed motions is now more about what my family wants 189 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: me to do rather than what I want to do. 190 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: And once I came to terms with that and was 191 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: able to say, all right, I'm gonna, you know, put 192 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: all the proverbial eggs in one basket and go for 193 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: the acting. I called my dad and I was terrified, 194 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: and he was. He couldn't have been more supple. It 195 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: was awesome. It was it was a game changer. It 196 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: sounds like it sounds like a great man, great guy. 197 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: He wasn't. Maybe we all have fathers like that. Um right, 198 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: my god, um well, it certainly seems like you made 199 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: the right choice. You're making a lot of people happy 200 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: in your career. Um. Do you still get nervous? And 201 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: this is from me, do you still get nervous going 202 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: to auditions? Absolutely? I get you know. I think I 203 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: think nerves are healthy. I think the day, as performers, 204 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,599 Speaker 1: the day we stop getting nervous is the day we 205 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: should start finding something else to do. I think a 206 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: healthy dose of nerves, as long as you know how 207 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: to harness them. I think it's good for any performer. 208 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: I really do, any artist. It's uh, yeah, I get 209 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: nervous going to auditions. I get nervous, you know. I 210 00:12:55,200 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: mean I've probably filmed I don't know, between well, episodes 211 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: of daytime television, and I still get nervous before I 212 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: go on, and it's part of my ritual. I enjoy 213 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: the nerves I I you know, it's more of like 214 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: a surge of adrenaline now whereas before. And I'm sure 215 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: you can relate to this. Any you know actor can 216 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: harken back to their younger days and find a time 217 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: where their nerves ruled then, right, And it's a real 218 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: paradigm shift happens when you realize you're in control of that. 219 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: That makes sense, Yeah, Yeah, for me, it was just 220 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: all about the level of preparation to write to control 221 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: the nerves. Yeah, because if you're prepared, you know that 222 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: you're ready for anything that happens in that room or 223 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: on that set, and you can be loose and you 224 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: can play a Preparation is huge, Um, because there's really 225 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: two schools, right, it's like not really knowing. I mean, 226 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: you hear the stories of Brando and Jack Nicholson. They 227 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: don't want to know. They don't want to repeat their lines, 228 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: they don't want to rehearse. James con never wanted to rehearse. 229 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: I did a film with him, he did. He didn't 230 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: want to rehearse. He knew his stuff. He looked at it. 231 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: Once he knew it, let's just do it list I don't. 232 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 1: I don't want to make it stale, and we need 233 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: to keep it fresh. And so there's but unfortunately, when 234 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: you work in television, you're in these very tight schedules, 235 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: and yeah, you gotta know your stuff called especially in 236 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: soap operas. For God's sake, you guys are covering. You 237 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: guys are doing how many pages a day we do 238 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: on average? When I walk in the building, I'll do 239 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: anywhere between usually between fifteen and thirty pages. It's crazy, 240 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: that's crazy, and it's nuts, man, But it's it's such 241 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: a great lesson in preparation, like we're saying, and commitment. 242 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: You know, you have to walk if you want to 243 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: do good work, and doing good work is important to you, 244 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: and being a good scene partner is important to you, 245 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: then you have to walk into that building knowing you're lines, 246 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: knowing your intention, you know, knowing all that right, like 247 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: having broken down the script and knowing the circumstances your 248 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: characters walking into because when you you know, at one 249 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: o'clock whenever these shows are on, when you turn on 250 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: a daytime television show, you're not seeing a fleshed out product. 251 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: You're just not because there's not time for that. You're 252 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: seeing a rehearsal. You're seeing, you know what You and 253 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: I on Gilmer Girls or any other prime time show 254 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: would spend thirty forty minutes doing while we're blocking, while 255 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: they're calling in you know everybody too, you know the 256 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: grips and props and everybody to watch while they're lighting. 257 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: That's you're watching the first one of those on daytime. 258 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: And so it, yeah, it takes a lot, It takes 259 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: a lot of discipline commitments. So do you have a 260 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: system that was learned memorizing your lines? You do? How 261 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: do you do? How do you It's evolved, it's evolved 262 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: over time. I used to, and you're gonna think I'm 263 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: a nut. I used to take yellow legal pads and 264 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: write every scene, every single not every scene in the script, 265 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: but every scene that I was in. So if I 266 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: had twelve scenes that day, thirty six pages, I would 267 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: sit and write out, you know, the scene from beginning 268 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: to end, including stage directions. And that helped me get 269 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: into the character's said, to help me get into the 270 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: writer's and the directors, so that by the time I 271 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: had to break the script down and actually memorize the 272 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: lines they were memorized because you know, pen to pen 273 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: to mind for me, happens to work. That's your theater training. 274 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: It is, it is and so but then you know 275 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: there were nights it was taken me four hours. Script 276 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: can't do it, and you and I can't do like 277 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: you can can't do that and so and so. You 278 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: can do it if you're in a play. Oh yeah, 279 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: you know you have the you have have the time 280 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: and rehearsal to do that. If you're gonna play. You 281 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: can't do that on serious television's funny, no chance. So 282 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: then now what I do. You know, I have my 283 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: iPad and I have which totally I don't know how 284 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 1: if you work from an iPad or you work from paper. 285 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: I prefer paper. But again, doing the volume of scenes 286 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: I do a day, the amount of paper I'm wasting, 287 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: and you know, just ink and everything, and it's great 288 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 1: to keep everything together on one device. I know, if 289 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: I go to work and I have five scripts that 290 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: I'm working on that week, they're all in this timy 291 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,239 Speaker 1: little device. So now it's you know, it's on the 292 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: iPad and it's just this um I have a system 293 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: that I go through. It's much more streamline. Now, well, 294 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: we want to say big congrats on your engagement to Isabella. 295 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: Thank you. Photo is that Devotov because one team is 296 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: de Voto? Yeah? Uh uh, and we saw that adorable 297 00:17:55,240 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: proposal on Instagram. How is the wedding planning coming along? 298 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: It's going well. We found a date. We found the venue, 299 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: which is like half the battle right, so uh, we're lucky. 300 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: We found the venue that covers a lot of you know, 301 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: the things that you'd have to normally go outside and rent. 302 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: So h the hardest thing, man, is this guest list? 303 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: It's right, be careful man. Yeah, people have the humans 304 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: have the uncanny ability to make someone else's wedding one 305 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: h about them. It's just it's really getting married. Yeah. Um, 306 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,479 Speaker 1: so fans loved, they really enjoyed that your daughter Harper 307 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: was involved in the proposal. Did she help that? Did 308 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: she help you use those nerves when you were popping 309 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: the question hunt the please? She eases every every nerve 310 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: in my body, that little girl. Yeah, oh yeah yeah. 311 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: And it was just as much about her as it 312 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: was my fiance. I mean, the reality is I would 313 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: not be marrying Lisa without Harper. I mean she led 314 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: me directly to her. Harper was in a Spanish Emergence 315 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: summer camp one year, and he said, was one of 316 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: her teachers. And that's how it happened. And you know, 317 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,479 Speaker 1: we got to know her very well, and she started 318 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: spending time around us. And one day, Harper, when she 319 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: was I think five, sits me down at the breakfast 320 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: table and she said, Daddy, are you and Lisa friends? 321 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, nothing was going on, and I said yeah. 322 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: She said, you guys should be together. I said, wait, what, 323 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: how do you know what that even means? What? What? What? 324 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: What do you mean be together? And she explains the 325 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: concept of being together with somebody, being a partner with somebody. 326 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: Where did you get this, bro, And and so she 327 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,719 Speaker 1: has been advocating for this relationship since before it happened. 328 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: And then we waited a while. Once it did happen, 329 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: we waited a while to tell her because dating as 330 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: a single parent it's a minefield, man, And if you 331 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: have your kids best intentions at heart, you're not going 332 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: to introduce that kid to every person you did, because 333 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:23,239 Speaker 1: that would just I mean, come on. Yeah, So you know, 334 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: we waited, god, almost a year I think, until we 335 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: told her, until we knew that it was going in 336 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: a serious direction. Then it became I knew it, And 337 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: when is she going to become my step mom? Yeah? 338 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: And so you know, and it's just it's great because 339 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: we get along well with with my ex wife, Harper's mom, 340 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: and it's you know, they're sure ups and downs, but 341 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: it's um, yeah, Harbor, my daughter is fully on board 342 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: and we wouldn't be here without her. So important, isn't it. 343 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: It's so important, so important. Yeah, well, I'm really happy 344 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: for you. That's great. So do you have a passion 345 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: for music? M isn't that fantastic? What's the status of 346 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: your band, pork Chuck. The status of my band pork 347 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: Chuck is well, we couldn't perform at all during the 348 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: pandemic at least. So what we did to kind of, 349 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: you know, get rid of the bug was we broadcast 350 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: a couple of shows from this great studio in Burbank, 351 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: and I think we did that three are so times, 352 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: which was a lot of fun. The hard thing with 353 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: the guys in the band is that I'm on days. Uh. 354 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: One guy is still in general hospital and to the 355 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: other one lives in Nashville, and another one lives pretty 356 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: far south of Los Angeles, an one within Sacramento. So 357 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: it's very difficult for us to get our schedules SYNCD 358 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 1: up to say, hey, we're gonna go on tour, you know, 359 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: the third week of October, market out because it doesn't 360 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: work for everybody. So we're trying to figure out a 361 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: time when we can go out on the road, but 362 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: we have full intentions of hopefully doing that. Sometimes do 363 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: you have management and the whole thing? And yeah, we 364 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: have booking you know, we have a booking manager. We 365 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: don't have a band manager, but we do have a 366 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: you know, a booking manager we worked very closely with 367 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: and she books us, and you know, she's booked us 368 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: anywhere from like you know, two fifty people person comedy 369 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: clubs to like the Wilbert Theater in Boston and you know, 370 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: all venues in between. And so yeah, I think what 371 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: we'd like to play is, you know, a house that's 372 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: really no bigger than like four because we know we 373 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: can sell that out and and it's a party. We're 374 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: a cover band and we just you know, we put 375 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: our own twist on on classic songs and just have 376 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: a party. Yeah, well that is fantastic. Are you ready 377 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: for rapping fire? I'm gonna fire. I'm gonna I'm gonna 378 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: fire questions at you haven't done this in a while 379 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: with the guests, but I'm gonna fire all these questions 380 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: that we gotta do. We gotta go through a quick 381 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: That's why it's called rapid fire. Ready. Oh, that's that's 382 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: the rapid part of it. This is the rapid apartment. 383 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: You got that part? Okay? How many coups of coffee 384 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: you having today? Zero? Are you a team Logan, Team Jess, 385 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: Team Dean? Huh? Exactly? What is your favorite Gilmore girl's character? 386 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: There you go? What would you order it? Luke Steiner? 387 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: I would order a grilled cheese inside of talks? Would 388 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: you rather go on a road trip with Taylor or Michelle? Both? 389 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: Finish the lyric? Where you lead? I will follow dot 390 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: dot dot take me to your leader. Jackson's vegetables are 391 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: Suki's baked goods, sake goods every day the week and 392 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: twice onthiing there you go. Would you rather listen to 393 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: Drella's harp or the Trooperdour's cover? So songs, songs, children 394 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: prep or Stars, Hollow high Man. There you go. It 395 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: was a pleasure of Brandon. Um, thank you so much. 396 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: Good luck with everything. I hope the band gets back 397 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: together and starts touring. I know people love that. UM 398 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: so much fun and uh, it was a pleasure talking 399 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: to you, and uh, good luck with the wedding. Stay safe, 400 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: all the best to you my friends. 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