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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Huddle podcast, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants.

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Speaker 1: Coming to you from this Senior Bowl at Mobile, Alabama.

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Speaker 1: Here's our next group of player interviews. A lot of

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Speaker 1: good conversations, folks, guys at different spots, a good shut

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Speaker 1: time for us to kind of learn about some of

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Speaker 1: these prospects that'll be in the NFL Draft and figure

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Speaker 1: out what makes them tick. Here are players, and now

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Speaker 1: we welcome in running back for the national champion Indiana Hoosiers,

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Speaker 1: Kalin black Kiln. How are you man? Feeling pretty good?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 1: Just waking up?

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Speaker 3: But uh yeah, Connagate roll then, yo.

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Speaker 1: You gotta get rolling, is right? So? I thought you

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Speaker 1: were rolling yesterday at practice. I want to start there.

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Speaker 1: I thought you ran the ball pretty well. What do

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Speaker 1: you think of the first day and how you did?

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Speaker 1: I feel like it was pretty decent.

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Speaker 4: I hadn't really done anything since a championship, but I

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Speaker 4: wanted to get my feet under me a little bit,

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Speaker 4: you know, kick up on a little details and have

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Speaker 4: a great day.

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Speaker 1: Now you say you haven't done anything since the championship,

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Speaker 1: that was just like a week ago. You took two

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Speaker 1: or three weeks or anything like that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So what I mean by that is like, you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm one of those guys to where I probably need

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Speaker 4: to keep doing things like over time.

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Speaker 1: It's like staying rhythm.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just stay in rhythm. So it was good to

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Speaker 5: get out there though.

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Speaker 1: It was real fun. Now a lot of your teammates

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Speaker 1: and this is not me criticized and then, because I

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Speaker 1: totally get it, decided not to do a lot of

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Speaker 1: the All Star game stuff right because the season just ended.

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Speaker 1: You guys want to rest. I get it. You want

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Speaker 1: to celebrate the one that's won the title. Why did

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Speaker 1: you want to still come here and do this event

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Speaker 1: even though you had a so much exposure in the

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Speaker 1: college football playoffs, played so well and I'm sure your

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Speaker 1: body took a hell of a toll too, having such

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Speaker 1: a butes by sixteen games this year.

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Speaker 4: Yep, it's long season. Yeah, I would just say just

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Speaker 4: to say advantage of the opportunity. We all are in

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Speaker 4: different situations, but just to be able to just come

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Speaker 4: out and compete.

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Speaker 1: And you know, my love.

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Speaker 4: For the game is a little bit, you know, it's unknown,

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Speaker 4: So I just wanted the sort of scales that you

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Speaker 4: know I have a great love for the game.

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Speaker 1: What was it about your group before we get it

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Speaker 1: to you in the draft? What was about this Indiana

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Speaker 1: group that allowed it to come together the way it

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Speaker 1: did for you guys to have the type of special

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Speaker 1: season actually dead, Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 4: I feel like our chemistry off the field was amazing.

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Speaker 4: Those those were the things that we focused on as

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Speaker 4: a team. Everyone hung out together, everyone did things together,

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Speaker 4: and I feel like that's what separated us.

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Speaker 1: How about the coach? You know, just watch it at

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Speaker 1: me smile and seems like a disciplinarian but also someone

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Speaker 1: that really gets his guys to reach their full potential. Right.

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Speaker 1: What is about his coaching style and what he has

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Speaker 1: done for you with him for six years? Correct?

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Speaker 4: So that that allowed you guys to reach the heights

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Speaker 4: that you did. Definitely, man just being himself, like no

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Speaker 4: one was ever going to take that away from him.

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Speaker 4: He was always great instilling in us being fast, as going, religious, smart,

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Speaker 4: discipline and poised, and I just feel like those were

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Speaker 4: that we knew as a team and tried to ask

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Speaker 1: It seemed that he was and just the way he

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Speaker 1: talked about you guys, his belief that at the start

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Speaker 1: to do and he believed it. Did the whole team

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Speaker 1: believe it too? Because he believed it? Yes, we did

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Speaker 1: believe it. Man.

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Speaker 4: Those one of the things that we were pretty much

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Speaker 4: knowing from you know, far camping even before and you're

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Speaker 4: in the spring ball. You know you always have a

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Speaker 4: you have a newer team. You know you got transfers

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Speaker 4: and young guys, but you just want to make sure

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about you now, six years, four

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Speaker 1: years at James Maddison before on two years in Indiana? Right,

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Speaker 1: did you ever imagine when you were leaving JMU after

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Speaker 1: a thousand yards being part of a two edded monster

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Speaker 1: that was going to the national championship. Was that even

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Speaker 1: like crossing your mind when you made that decision to

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Speaker 1: foul coach Signetti? Man?

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Speaker 4: It was, Man, I definitely had the belief in coach

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Speaker 4: cig I love being at this level. I just feel

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Speaker 4: like he was going to get it done one way

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Speaker 4: or another, and I'm just glad to be a part

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Speaker 1: How did you grow as a running back? Going from

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Speaker 1: where you've got the most carries, game the most yards.

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Speaker 1: Where did you grow the most as a running back?

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Speaker 1: I definitely feel like my attention to detail in the

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Speaker 1: and the way they use their techniques. Panda is to

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Speaker 1: where I was able to separate this year. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you thought about this a lot when when you were

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Speaker 1: getting there, but now that you went through it for

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Speaker 1: two years. What was the biggest difference for a running

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Speaker 1: back at James Madison versus being in the Big Ten,

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Speaker 1: playing in the ol House States, playing the Penn States,

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Speaker 1: playing the Organs, all those teams.

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Speaker 4: I would definitely say the biggest difference is in the trenches,

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Speaker 4: the V line, the O line is definitely they're bigger,

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Speaker 4: and I just feel like that's that's head of the

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Speaker 4: main difference is No, I can't imagine.

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Speaker 1: So you measured just under five to ten two hundred

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Speaker 1: of a long year, it's hard to kind of keep

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Speaker 1: that weight on from where you start, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say I would like to play around

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Speaker 4: like two ten to eleven.

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Speaker 1: I feel the most comfortable there. Oh that's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: You're only three pounds off of that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't even need breakfast that day, and so

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Speaker 4: I definitely feel like I am around two ten to

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Speaker 1: If a fan never watched your play and they asked you,

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Speaker 1: what type of running back are you? What's your style?

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Speaker 1: What do you kind of start at that's the biggest

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Speaker 1: What would you tell them?

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Speaker 4: I would say my physicality, just my ability to be

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Speaker 4: able to hit the hole on when I see it

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Speaker 4: and pretty much impose my will.

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Speaker 5: I just try my best to get vertical and not

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Speaker 1: Open field, you got to put a move on the

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Speaker 1: line back or what's your go to move in space?

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Speaker 1: I would say a spin move. You have to stand it, Yep,

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Speaker 1: a spin move. I just love that in open space.

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Speaker 4: I feel like it's one of those things where it's

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Speaker 4: unexpected because it looks like a juke move at.

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Speaker 1: First, but then so when you spin it catches. So

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Speaker 1: one off guard. What's the important part of ball protection

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Speaker 1: when you do that spin move? But sometimes I see

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Speaker 4: Little right right, Yeah, I would just say to tenant,

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Speaker 4: you just have to chante, keep you alble tight. Remember

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Speaker 4: the five point suppressure, And that's one of those things

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Speaker 4: where you have to drill it and to remember it.

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Speaker 1: What are some of the things that you want to

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Speaker 1: show coaches scouts that are watching on the field. You're

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Speaker 1: going to be talking to them in these meetings. What

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Speaker 1: are the things that you and your team have come

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Speaker 4: Definitely to just show that to be all around back,

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Speaker 4: you know that you can do a lot of different

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Speaker 4: things that you can pass cats out of the backfield,

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Speaker 4: that you can run the fishes and run efficient and

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Speaker 4: run hard, but also to you know, be able to

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Speaker 4: pass back as well. That's one of the things that

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Speaker 4: allows some running backs to have a longer career when

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Speaker 4: you were able to protect the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: No, I think that's absolutely right. Where do you think

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Speaker 1: is that something that you're really still trying to hone

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Speaker 1: and you're trying to trying to show NFL teams exactly

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Speaker 1: the type of back that you are. Yes, sir.

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Speaker 4: Those one of the things that I'm always going to

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Speaker 4: be hard on myself on because it's one of those

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Speaker 4: things where you can never do it enough, you can

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Speaker 1: What do you think the if I asked you what

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Speaker 1: the best part of your game is right now? Where

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Speaker 1: you best at as a running back? My physicality and

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Speaker 1: getting vertical in the run game. I like it, Yes, sir?

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Speaker 1: All right. When have you had meetings with with with

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Speaker 1: teams yet? Yes? Sir, what are some of the questions

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Speaker 1: that they've kind of been peppering you with in terms

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Speaker 1: maybe not just even as a player what you've talked

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just how how's my leadership style? How do you

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Speaker 5: Who are you bringing with you? And you know, in

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Speaker 5: a certain situation if you were ever to bring a.

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Speaker 4: Person with you and from the team, you know, questions

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Speaker 4: like that involving team and also like you know, just

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Speaker 4: regular hometown. Where are you from? Like what do you

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Speaker 4: do in your free time? We'll just getting to you know,

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Speaker 4: know me as a person.

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Speaker 1: What was your relationship like with him? Be Obviously you

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Speaker 1: guys shared the ball a lot, you know, I haven't

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Speaker 1: seen a lot, but sometimes there can be I want

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Speaker 1: the ball, I want to blond the ball. Well, how

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Speaker 1: did you that's kinna worked that where you're competing with

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Speaker 1: you're helping each other war football games.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, man, I felt like our relationship was great.

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Speaker 4: I feel like we messed well together. Two humble humble guys,

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Speaker 4: and we were just always just willing to do whatever

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Speaker 1: I think that's fantastic. Combine training. What are some of

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Speaker 1: the things that that you're really going to be working

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Speaker 1: important for a running back that you want to put

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think you're probably one of the last COVID

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Speaker 4: Fresh, right, That's what I'm saying, man, We just you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, careers in the NFL are not long.

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Speaker 1: Now we're joined by Notre Dame wide receiver Malachi Fields. Malkay.

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Speaker 1: How are you, man, I'm doing good.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you having me on, no problem, man, good

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Speaker 1: to meet you. How do you think first day of

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Speaker 3: I think it went pretty well.

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Speaker 6: You know, there's always some things to clean up, tighten

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Speaker 1: Now, you're a unique wide receiver six four two hundred

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Speaker 6: I think just being able to make those contested catches

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Speaker 6: I think, first of all, just having the mindset when

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Speaker 3: You know. I think it goes back to my baseball

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Speaker 3: And you just got to work at it.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, you know, I want I want to let them

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Speaker 6: To getting in and out of breaks, just making sure

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Speaker 6: I think the biggest difference is just the terminology, like

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Speaker 6: what they're calling the different receivers and then what they're

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Speaker 6: calling different routes so and as well as the splits,

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Speaker 6: because you know there's different hashes, different numbers.

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Speaker 1: Actually make a big difference. For recifferences.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's a little bit different with split getting

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Speaker 6: lined up and understanding the terminology. But you know, something

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Speaker 6: that we're constantly working at in one of the showcase

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Speaker 6: that we can understand it in a short amount of

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Speaker 6: time as we go out here.

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Speaker 1: By the question, I maybe got a run one number

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Speaker 1: that jumped out of me when you got to Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: Even though maybe the number of catches were down seventeen

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Speaker 1: and a half yards per catch, you're a big play

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. You mentioned the test to catch stuff, so

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Speaker 1: maybe it's the same answer. But what's the key to

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Speaker 1: being a big play wide receiver, which I'm sure is

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Speaker 1: a skill you want to bring to whatever whatever NFL

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Speaker 1: team drafts you.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely Like you said the number of catches was a

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Speaker 6: little down, So I think just making the most of

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Speaker 6: every opportunity that you get, like whether it's a you know,

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Speaker 6: a hit rail at five yards and you're breaking a

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Speaker 6: tackle and making it at a fifteen yard game and

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Speaker 6: a first down, you know, just making the most of

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Speaker 6: every opportunity those plays down the field where it could

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Speaker 6: have got where it could have gone fifty to fifty,

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Speaker 6: you know, making it seventy to thirty balls, So just

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Speaker 6: making the most of each opportunity.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 1: Good luck at practice, rest of the weekend of the game.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Huddle up, get in here.

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Speaker 1: welcome in Texas tech Edge Rusher Ramelo, Hey, Ramelo, how

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Speaker 1: are you man?

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Speaker 3: I'm great man, how about to sell?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great. How do you think first day of

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Speaker 1: practice went?

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Speaker 9: I think I think it went pretty well. I got

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Speaker 9: I could work on a few things, but I think

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Speaker 9: it went. I think it went great.

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Speaker 1: Great first day when you got together with with your

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Speaker 1: team or your age and your trainers heading into this event,

494
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Speaker 1: what were some of the things that you really wanted

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Speaker 1: to make sure you showed NFL teams out there on

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Speaker 1: the field.

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Speaker 3: That I could set the edge.

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Speaker 9: That was one of the main things I wanted to

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Speaker 9: shut the NFL teams that I could, you know, anchor

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Speaker 9: down and set the edge.

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Speaker 1: What do you think the key is for an edge

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Speaker 1: defender to set the edge in the run game?

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Speaker 3: Oh? He got first.

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Speaker 9: His thought was in this describe first to start with

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Speaker 9: his get off Dennis in the subscribe, Dan, is you know,

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Speaker 9: being able to sit it down and go to the one?

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you don't want to be pigeonholders just a

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Speaker 1: speed edge rusher. Is that basically what you're trying to do?

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Speaker 9: Yes, sir, Yes, Sirry, that's what I'm a picture of

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Speaker 9: that right now. You know it's just like a third

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Speaker 9: down ars rusher. But I just want to showcase that

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Speaker 9: I could be all down player.

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Speaker 1: And by way, I understand why guys might do that

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Speaker 1: because you're burst off the edge and your ability to

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Speaker 1: get a field is one of maybe the best in

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Speaker 1: the class. M Why are you able to be such

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Speaker 1: an effective edge rusher to kind of challenge that outside

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Speaker 1: shoulder of the offensive tackle and win with your speed?

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Speaker 9: So often I'm able to I feel like I'm able

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Speaker 9: to challenge offensive tackles off shoulder because first, like you said,

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Speaker 9: to get off, I key the ball. Get off is everything.

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Speaker 9: So if without a get off, you ain't gonna get

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Speaker 9: to the qube bro because it could be that one

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Speaker 9: little false step that you you know, that you take

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Speaker 9: and boom the quarterback out of their pockets. So the

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Speaker 9: initial get off is the key to getting to that

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Speaker 9: tackle offishoulder.

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Speaker 1: So please tell me if you think I'm crazy because

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Speaker 1: I hate player comps because I think all you guys

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Speaker 1: are unique players. You shouldn't be compared to each other,

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Speaker 1: and I hate doing them. Yeah, but one player actually

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Speaker 1: did jump back to me when I watch it, I'm

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Speaker 1: curiously what you think about it? Nick Benito from the Bronx.

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Speaker 1: Yes a lot really both said that has not heard that?

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Speaker 3: So I heard it all year.

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Speaker 1: I swear on being original. I did not hear anyone

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Speaker 1: want to say that. Do you buy that? Do you

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Speaker 1: think that's off base? Do you think that's accurate?

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Speaker 9: I will tell you that comparison. Nick Benito is a

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Speaker 9: you know, relentless, relentless guy. He plays great ball, so

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Speaker 9: I'll take that.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, he's a guy too that when

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Speaker 1: he got drafted it was like, well, he's a small guy,

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Speaker 1: he's a speed rusher. He can't stop to or he

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Speaker 1: can't do this now and doubt.

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Speaker 3: Now, now look at him. He's a game changer.

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Speaker 9: He's a gay record and you know the team that

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Speaker 9: takes me, that's what I plan on doing, you know,

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Speaker 9: wrecking the game, going to get the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So what are your best counters off of your speed?

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Speaker 1: That's the first thread you want to make sure you

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Speaker 1: try to get that tackle. Why to get Hi maybe

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Speaker 1: off balance when they try to kick. What are your

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Speaker 1: counters off of your speed?

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Speaker 3: Off of my speed? I would say my counters is.

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Speaker 9: Either the top spin or the swipe, depending on how

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Speaker 9: to tackle set based off of my be A lot

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Speaker 9: of tackles try to get out there and jump out there,

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Speaker 9: so I can I either go with an inside counter,

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Speaker 9: slight car.

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Speaker 3: I go with a stab club.

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Speaker 9: I would say them the two counters that I go to,

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Speaker 9: them three counters that I go to, mainly the top

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Speaker 9: spin based off of what the tack will do.

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Speaker 3: When you see me get out the buck.

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Speaker 1: No, it makes sense. It's one thing to win outside

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Speaker 1: with speed, you get the outside shoulder, but if you

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Speaker 1: can't bend that edge, right and get back to the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to run around the outside all the time.

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Speaker 1: And that's gonna drive coaches nuts, right the quarterbacks and

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Speaker 1: scramble they can run. Nope, do you train that bend?

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Speaker 1: What do you do to train that bend? Or is

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Speaker 1: that something that kind of just came naturally to you

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Speaker 1: with your.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I trained it off season and postseason. I would

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Speaker 9: be doing the hoop drills twenty four to seven.

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Speaker 7: Every jail every usually every workout I've done, I put

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Speaker 7: out the hoop drill and work that just tolds her

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Speaker 7: total total tots her because that's the key.

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Speaker 3: You got to get that toe term.

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Speaker 9: You gotta get it pointed towards the quarterback because not

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Speaker 9: you're just gonna be in them hips like working hips,

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Speaker 9: but they adds. It matters because without them, you're not

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Speaker 9: gonna have the right angles to get to the que.

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Speaker 9: You're not gonna be you're not gonna be able to bend,

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Speaker 9: You're not gonna be able to turn that toe and

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Speaker 9: get to the Q.

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Speaker 3: So things like that is critical.

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Speaker 1: I love the little technical details that you guys have

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Speaker 1: to focus on when people just don't see it on

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Speaker 1: the field. To think it's great. So when you kind

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Speaker 1: of talk to NFL teams and these meetings, have you

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Speaker 1: had meetings yet with teams?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Not yet? Yea, we got that coming up after

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Speaker 3: the team meeting. The story.

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Speaker 1: So what are the things that you want to get

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Speaker 1: across them when you do meet with them about not

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Speaker 1: just you as a player, but as you as a guy? Uh?

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Speaker 9: That that I that I honestly got a you know,

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Speaker 9: I got a great character. I got a great character.

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Speaker 9: And that's something that they've been worried about based off

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Speaker 9: of me, you know, going from school to school things

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Speaker 9: like that. But man, honestly, man, I had a super

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Speaker 9: super super super rough start uh first few years of

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Speaker 9: my college career. So I honestly don't blame them, and

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Speaker 9: I want to be able to you know, break that

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Speaker 9: down to them and hopefully that can get me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So you know what's funny, I was gonna ask

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Speaker 1: that you brought it up. You went from Warburn to

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Speaker 1: USC through Georgia Tech to Texas Tech, and they ask

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Speaker 1: you why did you keep switching schools? What are you

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Speaker 1: gonna tell them?

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna just break it down to them, man, And

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Speaker 9: lots lots of up and down Uh, lots of changing

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Speaker 9: that I had to do, lots of bettering myself that

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Speaker 9: I had to do, uh better my ways, changed my

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Speaker 9: ways on and off the field. So it was a

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Speaker 9: lot going on at Auburn USC Uh them the two

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Speaker 9: schools that you know, had a lot of confidence at

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Speaker 9: And honestly, I want you know, I wanted to change

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Speaker 9: and better myself. Got back closer to home then you know,

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Speaker 9: n il played a prior. I honestly didn't want to

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Speaker 9: leave Georgia Tech, but you know, check Man so like

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Speaker 9: and end up going to TESSAs Tech and man complete

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Speaker 9: turn around. I don't like totally totally changed, like living

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Speaker 9: in the building, living in the training room. It was

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Speaker 9: just little things like that that I needed to get

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Speaker 9: better at things off the field, you know, just better

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Speaker 9: myself or that's what I feel like I've learned.

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Speaker 1: I got I got two files off of that one.

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Speaker 1: Where do you think You've mentioned a few times? Where

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Speaker 1: do you think you've grown as a person as a man.

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Speaker 1: You can be a great athlete. Do unless you're like

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Speaker 1: really locked in, you're not gonna be coming an NFL.

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Speaker 9: We could be a you could be a great athlete

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Speaker 9: and be immature and that a play a huge part

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Speaker 9: in your game, because if you immature off the field,

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Speaker 9: you're gonna do some immature things on the field. You know,

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Speaker 9: you're gonna go out there and bus plays. You're gonna

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Speaker 9: go out there and you know, bus alignments do just

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Speaker 9: do crazy stuff that you shouldn't be doing. And that

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Speaker 9: was that's that's what comes with uh immaturity. So I

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Speaker 9: feel like I'm matured a lot over the years and

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Speaker 9: just you know.

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Speaker 3: Something, my game.

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Speaker 9: It helped me take my game to a different level,

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Speaker 9: like just based off of mature, like, you know, just

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Speaker 9: living in an immature maturity comes with living in a

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Speaker 9: chain room, living in the building, treaty, treating it like

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Speaker 9: you're a professional, you know, bunning with your teammates, just

651
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Speaker 9: you know, just living in the building, things like that.

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Speaker 9: I never used to bounce my team, man. I was

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Speaker 9: a guy that used to, you know, stay to myself

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Speaker 9: just well, I ain't gonna say I just used to

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Speaker 9: stay to myself. I used to have you know, some

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Speaker 9: homes on the team, but it wasn't like you know,

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Speaker 9: true bun and then just living in the building together

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Speaker 9: and chopping it up, watching film things like that. So

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Speaker 9: I man, things like that, like what's key for me?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 1: And this maybe is the same answer. Why did all

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Speaker 1: Cliff you a Texas tack, You blew up your ten

663
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: s acs? You a monster year. You're challenging to be

664
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: a first round pick now, right, So what needed work

665
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 1: at Texas Tech for you?

666
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 9: Honestly, before I got the test, I set my goals.

667
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 9: Like in my old phone, I put in my notes

668
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 9: for what I was going to do at Texas Tech,

669
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 9: and a manifested that.

670
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 3: Man. I said, I was gonna work hard.

671
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 9: Every day, like while people wasn't looking, while people wasn't watching,

672
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 9: I said, I was going to do the things that

673
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,959
Speaker 9: that that that hurt me, that that I didn't want

674
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 9: to do, which is like you know, getting up at

675
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 9: five am, six am and you know, standing in the

676
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 9: training room all day, things like that. Like it was

677
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 9: just a little things that I set out in stone

678
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 9: that to go get, you know, and the main one

679
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 9: was double digit secks and I was able to accomplish

680
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 9: that by you know, working hard and just going to

681
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:22,479
Speaker 9: get it.

682
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: Did you put another sports when when you were in

683
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 1: high school anything like that?

684
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I played basketball and I ran track.

685
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: Which one are in what ways did those other sports

686
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 1: help you become a better football player?

687
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 4: Oh?

688
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay.

689
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 9: I feel like basketball helped me become a better football

690
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 9: player because you could literally take it over to the

691
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 9: field when doing moves, like you know, yeah, like it's

692
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 9: it's the same, it's it's literally the same same text

693
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 9: in a way, but not really you know, it's basketball.

694
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 3: No.

695
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: And then how about track?

696
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 3: Track?

697
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 4: Uh?

698
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: I kind of what you did you run? Did you jump?

699
00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 3: What did you do?

700
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 9: I jumped in middle school, but I didn't I didn't.

701
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 9: I didn't really do track long stop on that great year.

702
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 9: But I think I still got the hog jump record

703
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 9: in devil in middle school. I think I had the

704
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 9: hog jump records.

705
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: We should watch you in that when we get to

706
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: the combines. Yeah yeah, you jump out of the build

707
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: a little bit.

708
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm I'm I'm gonna jump out a belder.

709
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: Anything else. Combine wise, it either focus on or you

710
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: think you're really gonna be good at when you get there.

711
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: Three cone uh in the forty really? Uh?

712
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:28,959
Speaker 3: Fu?

713
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 9: Five under at least a four five under and three

714
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 9: cone the shuttle drills all that.

715
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna do pretty good in those Dreids.

716
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: Who is the toughest offensive tackle you went up against

717
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 1: in your college career?

718
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 3: Oh, that's tough one. I played some good talks. Probably

719
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 3: Joe out.

720
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: You can be more than one if you want.

721
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 9: Joe out and specifying. Yeah, he's a good player. That's

722
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 9: a good player right there. Man, super technical.

723
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 3: Like.

724
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 9: Great hands, great eyes, great feet in mac left feet

725
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 9: like man, that's a that's a great ball player. And

726
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 9: I really look for to go on against some again,

727
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 9: you know, getting the rematch, Yeah.

728
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: You might be a top ten pick. Well, sir, Yeah, Hey, Romel,

729
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: it was great getting ay man, that's a look this week.

730
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: Thank you very much.

731
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 3: I appreciate your math.

732
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: All right, now we're gonna talk some special teams. Very

733
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: excited about this. We're gonna welcome in Georgia punter Brett Thorson, Brett,

734
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: how are you man? Good? Thank you? Hell? How's your

735
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: weekend so far? Kicking the ball?

736
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been good.

737
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 10: Definitely getting in the pro style system for the first time,

738
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 10: it's been a good experience and a good landing curve

739
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 10: to kind of kickstart this draft process.

740
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: Yes, because it is very different. Right you know, college

741
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: you're holding the ball, you can run left or right. YEA,

742
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: picking NFL, you're not doing that because the rules are

743
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: different with the rushers and stuff right, So what has

744
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: that adjustment been like for you? Kind of trying to

745
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:47,959
Speaker 1: adjust your game a little bit.

746
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think the biggest thing I'm noticing around now

747
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 10: is like the kind of the HASH is coming in

748
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 10: and then increasing the field zone kind of emphasis. In college,

749
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 10: we are going kind of right of the hash, so

750
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 10: we had a pretty wide field zwer aim At. So

751
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 10: you current playing like the angles that helped you as

752
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 10: opposed to colors. You're trying to get outside numbers, and

753
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 10: the hash has come in, so there's two added angles

754
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 10: that we're trying to get familiar with right now in

755
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 10: that system. And then obviously everything shrinks down in that protection.

756
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 10: It's much more condensed. There's not as much spreading out,

757
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 10: you don't have as much coverage, so that emphasis on

758
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 10: hangtime and location is getting worked on.

759
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: Do you consider yourself more of a powered distance kicker

760
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: or more of a directional gay I think yeah, probably

761
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: a bit more power hangtime would be what I've been

762
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: known for.

763
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 10: I would like to have good location, but it's definitely

764
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 10: something to work on going on to the next level

765
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 10: because it is upgrading from that hash lammark to the

766
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 10: numbers ladmark.

767
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: What are some of the things do you do from

768
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: a technique perspective to improve in terms of being a

769
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: directional game, really putting the ball where you wanted, especially

770
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: when you're trying to get them all inside the ten,

771
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: inside the five, even cloth and corner, all that sort

772
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: of stuff. Just trying to ping guys deep in the zone.

773
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's pretty much like the angles, just drilling in

774
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 10: the angles early punning you like, stay as straight as

775
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,479
Speaker 10: possible and go to your pass. So working on getting that,

776
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 10: like for me, going left, like getting that left foot

777
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 10: out early and to the target rather than kind of

778
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 10: having a lazy one and then all of a sudden

779
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 10: you're not going down that true line and then everything

780
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 10: starts swinging and like you may be walking this way,

781
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 10: trying to pump this way, and it becomes a bit

782
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 10: chaos sometimes.

783
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: So pretty much.

784
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 10: Just working on that and really drilling in the straight

785
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 10: lines and working on the new angles.

786
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: So we had weird Brad Wing with the Giants. Great.

787
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: He was a nasty kicker, right, and he was able

788
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: to really manipulate the ball and put different spins on you.

789
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: One kick he called the boomerang because they kind of

790
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: went sideways and it was you know, the wind took in.

791
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: It was hard for guys to judge it to cause

792
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: some muff punts things like that. What are some of

793
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: things you could do to manipulate the ball to change

794
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: the spin, change the angles, to make it tough on

795
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: guys trying to catch the ball as returners. I think

796
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: that just using the uzzy wheels background.

797
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 10: Obviously in Australian rules, if you got so many different

798
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 10: angles that you're running around so many different places, you

799
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 10: got to get the ball and then scoring as well.

800
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: So bring that Ausie rules.

801
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 10: Background like Brad did, and hopefully then able to put

802
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 10: that into play in some game plans when they get

803
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 10: when they're suited for that sort of field position. And

804
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 10: then also just like continue to work on your game

805
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 10: knowing what hang times are needed in what parts of

806
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 10: the field. That's probably something I think. And when you're

807
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 10: going in like that, knowing where you're landing the ball

808
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 10: and what the spin chances are of like the bounce

809
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 10: even with the spiral, like are you going to get

810
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 10: a kick left when you're going right? Hopefully you get

811
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 10: a kick right, stuff like that. Can you get a

812
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 10: bit lower and get a kick forward if you get

813
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 10: trying to go kind of over the returner's head.

814
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: So stuff like that is definitely on things to account for.

815
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: What's the adjustment just in terms of going from US

816
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: to NFL just the ball and the shape of the

817
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: ball and kicking it and you know, creating that spin

818
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: in the angle given the different shape of the ball,

819
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: because as you know, centimeter an inch here or there

820
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: can really make all the difference.

821
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, the Aussie rules ball is a bit more fat,

822
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 10: kind of a bit more rounded at the end. The

823
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 10: letter is a bit more like slick and shiny, so

824
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 10: kind of with the Ussy rules bowl, it's a lot

825
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 10: easier to kind of get the ball to the target,

826
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 10: like maybe not perfect, so you can still miskick it

827
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 10: a little. It might it's been a little funny. You

828
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 10: can kick it as easy to kick on all those angles.

829
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 10: As for going to the NFL ball, because there's so

830
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 10: much skinnier at the ends and a bit more pointy,

831
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,479
Speaker 10: it's a lot harder to like kind of have that

832
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 10: if you miss kick, you miskicked like it can be

833
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 10: a bad hit. So you gotta be as pretty much

834
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 10: as perfect as possible with that day, and that's where

835
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 10: the best results come is when you hit the swat spot.

836
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: I got two more questions for you. What's the worst

837
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: weather you ever at the punt in and what's the

838
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: challenge when you're going in bed weather as a punt

839
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: abs real Probably not familiar with it, but the metal

840
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: lands can get windy, it can get cold, it can

841
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: whip around. You don't know where the wind's coming from.

842
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: So what's the worst weather experience you've had as a

843
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: punter and how did you try to kind of fight

844
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: through it and what's key to surviving those types of games?

845
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, thanks for obviously George is a bit different, Yeah,

846
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 10: a little bit, but no, you get the cold games.

847
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 10: I'd say the Georgia Tech game last year. I think

848
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 10: it was just a night game, so you know how

849
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 10: when you get in the night game. It was a

850
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 10: Friday night game and it was just like we played

851
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 10: until about twelve o'clock at night, so I guess you

852
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 10: could imagine what late late almost early December felt like. Yeah,

853
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 10: at eleven o'clock at night, so that was probably it.

854
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 10: And just trying to stay warm when you when it's

855
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 10: that late in that cold So I think I talked

856
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 10: to actually like the Chicago Bears punter and stuff like that,

857
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 10: be like, what's your method in games like this, and

858
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 10: kind of reached out to those boys and kind of

859
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 10: just got through to stay warm. So taking help off

860
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 10: people who played in it. And then obviously you got

861
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 10: to take a lot into account. The balls are a

862
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 10: little bit different in catch in the cold weather. Obviously

863
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 10: you don't have the expectation of warm weather where they

864
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 10: kind of inflated a bit more. You got to just

865
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 10: know your role and really just stick to the strengths

866
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 10: and be as technically perfect as possible. It was like

867
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 10: a kicking of rocks exactly. Yeah, you want to make

868
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 10: sure you go a couple of bad as it sucks.

869
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: On final question, who's the most dangerous return man that

870
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: you had to worry about punt into and making sure

871
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: you help control them with the location and hang time.

872
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 10: Yeah. Uh, back in the Natty, he returns for the

873
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 10: child's datus. He had to kick to him that that

874
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 10: year in the Natty. So we pretty much got on

875
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 10: cross field like we're acting out with you on rot

876
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 10: like kicking on the other side of the field, just

877
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 10: make sure he wasn't getting.

878
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: So I'm just kicking out of bounds as the best

879
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: thing you can do. Yeah, that's right. This is a

880
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: pleasure man, who know your good luck to us. Thank

881
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: you very much. All right, now we welcome in from

882
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjack. Yes, sir, Charles Demingson's going on, man,

883
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm blessed with every breath. I got no complaints over here. Man,

884
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: I'm doing great, man. So how has it gone the

885
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: first couple of days of practice for you?

886
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 5: Man?

887
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 11: Day one, I really laid the foundation of you know

888
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 11: who I am and what I can do. Day two,

889
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 11: that was the day of execution. You know, it wasn't

890
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 11: It wasn't a stunt or it wasn't the fate. Now

891
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 11: with day three is today last day of practice. This

892
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 11: is when I put it all together. You know, this

893
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 11: is when I show those two days weren't just a

894
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 11: good two days. It wasn't a mountin high valley low

895
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 11: type of day. I'm a guy who's on the transcending path,

896
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 11: and I'm a guy who's on the mission, you know,

897
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 11: not only to be better on the field, but to

898
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 11: be better around that hotel. You know and to express

899
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 11: God's glory in every way I can, because who we

900
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 11: are off the field is a direct translation of who

901
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 11: we are on the field. And if food make those

902
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 11: relationships and we commit to each other playing on the field,

903
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 11: oh that feels way easier. Man, feels like we all

904
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 11: got the same helmets out there. So I'm literally ready

905
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 11: to go out there, man, and lay it all on

906
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 11: the line for gods I just met, because I have

907
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 11: created a bond and the love I share is no

908
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 11: different than the love I share with my family. These

909
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 11: guys are my family right now, man, and it's the

910
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 11: people that God gave me. So I'm okay with it

911
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 11: being the last thing I ever do in life. If

912
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 11: I never get to leave here.

913
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: Dude, that is fantastic. I love it. So what are

914
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: the things that you're trying to want to show NFL teams,

915
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: whether when you meet with them, the meetings so they

916
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: learn about you as a guy, but also on the field,

917
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: what you want to maybe prove to them what you

918
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: can do as a player, that.

919
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 11: I am elitees of elite, and I can play with

920
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 11: the highest of the highest. Man, there's no difference. I

921
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 11: may have went to an FCS school. But put me

922
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 11: in front of any receiver, put me in front of

923
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 11: any professional receiver that I'm going to stay on my

924
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 11: ground and hold my own man. There is nothing that

925
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 11: I can't do. I don't believe in the word can't.

926
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 11: You know, I rarely use the word believe, because when

927
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 11: you believe, you leave room for doubt. So I'm here

928
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 11: to show that NFL owners, gms, take the helmets, take

929
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 11: the jerseys and just leave them blank and then tell

930
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 11: me the difference you see and all the guys out

931
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 11: there and me.

932
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: I love it. I know you even mean to get

933
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 1: to one more before we go. You come from FCS school.

934
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: You did thought it about that? I did play by

935
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: play in solid reporting for the Northeast Conference also FCS

936
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: in the Northeast. Okay, I know how talented guys from

937
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 1: those schools can be. So many of the guys don't

938
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: go and they transfer up right, they go to like

939
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: some You know, you don't get many guys from FCS's

940
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: at these games anymore. What was it about that the

941
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: program you wanted to stay there? And what does it

942
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: mean to you? Kind of wear that you know, Lumberjack

943
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: badge and the small school judge and kind of represent

944
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: thing that not just that your program, but that level

945
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: of play.

946
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 11: Man, I bleed purple, you know, And it it's not

947
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 11: we don't got the best resources, we don't got the

948
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 11: best locker on got the best people in it though.

949
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 11: We got guys that commit to each other. We got

950
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,919
Speaker 11: guys that will serve each other. And you know, I'm

951
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 11: I'm no different than the other guys at that level.

952
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 11: I'm me being here is a reflection of what any

953
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 11: FCS guy can do when they get the shot an

954
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 11: opportunity to come up here and play with the other guys.

955
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 11: You know, there is no difference between the scale level,

956
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 11: maybe the trenches in the size, but the skill level. Man,

957
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 11: We're all the same, you know, some of us even better,

958
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 11: you know. And being here that I believe, purple man,

959
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 11: and I'm real excited to represent SFA in every way

960
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 11: because that is the school that developed me from a

961
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 11: boy to a man, gave me a bridge to God

962
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 11: and gave me a bridge to being able to love everything.

963
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 11: And every moment I do like it was my last moment,

964
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,919
Speaker 11: and I wouldn't have got that, you know, anywhere else

965
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 11: with the artist Nil coming and maybe I would have,

966
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 11: but God placed me at SFA, and so that's why

967
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 11: I wanted to stay true and leave a legacy at

968
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 11: because those people developed me the right way, not to

969
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 11: make it to the league, but to stick.

970
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 1: Jerk die. Good luck the rest of the way. Goodluck

971
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: to rest of the draft process. Very nice, get to

972
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: meet you, man, nice getting me too much. Appreciate being

973
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 1: the gifts you are. Man, I appreciate you as well.

974
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: All right, and now we welcome in cornerback for the

975
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: Arkansas Razorbacks, Julian Hawaii.

976
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 8: Man.

977
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: Good good.

978
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 12: How about yourself?

979
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: I'm doing great. How do you think the week's coming?

980
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: So far?

981
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 12: Things going good?

982
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 3: Man?

983
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 12: I think I could improve in a lot of ways,

984
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 12: but I think it's going good.

985
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: All right. You're a bigger corner. You mentioned it, six

986
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: one and a half two hundred and two pounds. How

987
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: do you think you utilize your side to be an

988
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: effective cover corner?

989
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 12: Definitely utilized my size at the line and man coverage

990
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 12: and in his zone where I could come off a

991
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 12: guy and and and hit some of the bigger guys

992
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 12: coming in like under the linebackers or in trail.

993
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: Are you a two hand jam guy? You're a one

994
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: hand jam guy.

995
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 12: I switched it up at times, two hand jam when

996
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 12: I when I'm really when I really don't want him

997
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 12: to get off the line, the one hand jam when

998
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 12: I'm just trying to see what he's going to do.

999
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: Now, you were a fresh though for three years before

1000
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 1: I went to Arkansas. Why'd you decide to make that switch?

1001
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 12: I felt like I needed a bigger challenge for me

1002
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 12: to get a better shot at the NFL. I just

1003
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 12: feel like, you know, the ultimate goal was the NFL,

1004
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 12: and I just needed no excuses for people to say

1005
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 12: what I was what I was doing during the season.

1006
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: So once you got there, the Arkansas obviously jump in competition, right.

1007
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: What were you able? How were you able to develop

1008
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: your game at Arkansas and kind of build upon the

1009
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: foundation that you had already built at fres Now.

1010
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 12: Definitely just found myself as a player being there, having

1011
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 12: the coaches since day one believe in me and throw

1012
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 12: me out there, and that definitely helped me be able

1013
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 12: to hold my skills in and be more comfortable on

1014
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 12: the field with throwing my hands and just knowing that

1015
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 12: I'm that guy.

1016
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: What have you come to an event like this? I

1017
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: know you guys do kind of get with your trainings,

1018
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: you get with your team, you talk about the things

1019
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: that you want to try to show NFL scouts run

1020
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: the field right. What was your plan? What were some

1021
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: of your goals this week at the Senior Bowl that

1022
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: you wanted to prove the NFL evaluators.

1023
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 12: Started on physical so I could show up at a

1024
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 12: run game, so that you know, during the screen drills

1025
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 12: and no receiver could block me, and during the punt

1026
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 12: return drills that even if I'm getting vised that's a

1027
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 12: two man press at the line for punt return that

1028
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 12: they can't block me either, and I can go make

1029
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 12: a play on special teams as well.

1030
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you've met a lot of those

1031
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: goals so far in the rest couple days, Yes, sir,

1032
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: talk about what you've done on special teams. Obviously, young

1033
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: players you get into the league, that's one of the

1034
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: first things you're going to be asked to do. So

1035
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: where have you done special teams in college?

1036
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 12: In terms of I've experience, I've done pump return and

1037
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 12: I'm don't kick off.

1038
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: What do you think makes you a good special teams player?

1039
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: What's important for a player to be good at special teams?

1040
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 12: Being able to being able just to execute your job

1041
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 12: because all eleven players or all ten players have to

1042
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 12: get the person with the ball to as on.

1043
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: You like playing Man, You like playing zon On, You

1044
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: like playing off press. If I told you it's a

1045
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: keyth third down, you have to cover a guy. How

1046
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: do you want to be aligned and how do you

1047
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: want to play them?

1048
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 12: Definitely want to play man. I definitely want to play man.

1049
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 12: Outside levers, remove, remove any outside releases, and make it

1050
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 12: hard for a QB to get the ball to the

1051
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 12: first down.

1052
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: When you've met with these teams, these personnel evaluators, what

1053
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: are some of the things that they've really been asking

1054
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: you about to learn about you, not just as a player,

1055
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: but also as a guy. What you're going to bring

1056
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: to a locker room, what kind of teammates you are?

1057
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 12: Things like that I want I ask first of all,

1058
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 12: if I'm a leader, not telling them I am, but

1059
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 12: I'm not. I'm not just type of I'm not the

1060
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 12: type of dude to go around and yelling at everybody.

1061
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 12: I feel like I'm the type of dude where you

1062
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 12: look at me and while you look at Juliet Neil

1063
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 12: and he's gonna be doing his job, and that makes

1064
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 12: you want to do your job. Or doesn't matter how

1065
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 12: many points were down, It doesn't matter how hard practices

1066
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 12: are going. You're gonna see me go go hit the

1067
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 12: running back full speed, or go hit the go hit

1068
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 12: the receiver back the lion scrimmage at full speed, and

1069
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 12: it's gonna make you want to do the same thing.

1070
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: Who is the toughest wide receiver you had to cover

1071
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: this year in the SEC?

1072
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 12: I say, Casey Conception and Brendon Thompson.

1073
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: What make concepts you have tough to cover?

1074
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 12: Uh? You know, he was real shaky at the line,

1075
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 12: and he have some rower routes for me and that

1076
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 12: preparation that week just for him. It took a lot

1077
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 12: out of me and running. Thompson was one of those

1078
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 12: guys because I mean he was just very fast. I

1079
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 12: think he's one of the fastest guys in the draft

1080
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 12: right now.

1081
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: All right, you got a ton of razorbacks here. When

1082
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: I asked about some of your teammates where first I

1083
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: did really enjoyed watching your quarterback tailing green this week.

1084
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: I mean freak athlete. First of all, he's super tall.

1085
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: When he runs, he's run, the ball comes out of

1086
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: his hand really well. You obviously practice against him a tond.

1087
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: What is about Taylor that that makes him tough?

1088
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 12: I mean Taylor, I mean he's a freaking nature. I

1089
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 12: mean he's he's one of he was definitely one of

1090
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 12: the leading captains on our team this year. I feel

1091
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 12: like what makes him tough, it's just his mentality. And

1092
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 12: now he comes into every practice in every game. I mean,

1093
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 12: you know, you could just see. I could see it

1094
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 12: in his face before each game that he just knows

1095
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:26,959
Speaker 12: that he's that guy and he's gonna go out.

1096
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: There and dominate and he and he needs us behind him.

1097
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed watching your running back Mike Washington Junior

1098
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: this week. It's rocked up. He's almost two to thirty pounds,

1099
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 1: but he doesn't look like that when he runs. He's

1100
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: very smooth and you know, you're shaking your head. What

1101
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 1: is about him that makes him what I think is

1102
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 1: a very underrated running back in this class.

1103
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 12: Like I've been telling everybody since the first year I

1104
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 12: got to Arkansas and seeing him just run people over

1105
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 12: it was crazy. You mean, yeah, he's I mean he's

1106
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 12: a he is he's as well as a freaking nature.

1107
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 12: I mean he's gonna run super hard, He's gonna he's

1108
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 12: gonna cut super lightly. And I mean his speed is

1109
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 12: I feel like his speed is very underrated and his

1110
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 12: power is very underrated. I feel like scouts and and

1111
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 12: teams are are going to see that here often and

1112
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 12: soon you know, they're in a combine. I'm going to

1113
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 12: see how you know, how fluid he is in the drills,

1114
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 12: and I think he's gonna make his way up the drivet.

1115
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: I want to ask you a couple of the defensive

1116
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: players that you play with on your side of the ball.

1117
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: We had him a couple of days ago here. Really

1118
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: nice kid, Cameron Ball, the big man in the middle.

1119
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 1: What makes him special as a defensive tackle?

1120
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 12: Caaron Balkmough could go disrupt Uh run run the run.

1121
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 12: He can go disrupt the run game.

1122
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: Uh.

1123
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 12: He's a he's a he's a big He's one of

1124
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 12: our big leaders on the field. You know, he's been

1125
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 12: in Arkansas for a long time. I feel like he

1126
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 12: played a very big role in our defenses here and

1127
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 12: just him being very physical changes a game for a

1128
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 12: lot of us.

1129
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: How about your linebacker Xavian s.

1130
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 12: I sorry, he's gonna go in there he's gonna hit

1131
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 12: every time he's he's gonna be relentless. He's not scared

1132
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 12: of anything. You know. He's one of those dudes where

1133
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 12: you see him and it makes you want to just

1134
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 12: go harder.

1135
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: I think I got everybody. I didn't miss anyone right

1136
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 1: from Markin So that's here.

1137
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 12: Fernando Carmona, tell me, tell me about offensive line. I mean,

1138
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 12: he's a very great guy. I came from Saturday State,

1139
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 12: you know that, my West, just like me. I feel

1140
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 12: like that dude is a He's a true six four

1141
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 12: what three twenty? I mean that dude, he's a big guy.

1142
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 12: So I feel like teams are gonna be very happy

1143
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 12: with him being able to use him.

1144
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 1: What are your goals now as this event wraps up,

1145
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: you're playing the game obviously, then you start getting ready

1146
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: for Combine, start getting ready for pro day. What are

1147
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: some of the things that you're going to be locking

1148
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: in and focusing on to improve for scouts, to show

1149
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: him when you kind of finish off this strap process.

1150
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 12: Definitely my long shot in speed before you are dash,

1151
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 12: and definitely those DP drills. I want to show him

1152
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 12: how how fluid I am, and those deep drills and

1153
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 12: how flid my hips are and how fast get out

1154
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 12: breaks and how explosive I him. And I'm really focused

1155
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 12: on the broad jump because that's gonna show scouts like true,

1156
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 12: how explosive I am.

1157
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 1: Anything from a specific technique wise from playing corner that

1158
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: you want to kind of hold it on for your

1159
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: pro day.

1160
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 12: Definitely just flipping my hips and being able to get

1161
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 12: my back pedal and being able to get out my

1162
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 12: back pedal as soon as possible.

1163
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: All Right, Vivia, meet you, man luck the rest of

1164
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: we thank you so much for dropping by it, sir,

1165
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: thank you all right, and now we were joined by

1166
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: University of Iowa cornerback TJ Hall. TJ. How's it going man?

1167
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: I wear you man, it's going good. How you doing?

1168
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 3: So?

1169
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: We've been through to practices. I do you think it's

1170
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: gone so far this week at the Senior Bowl. I

1171
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: think it's been going pretty good. Coach.

1172
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 2: You've been having me try a new position at the

1173
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 2: Nickels spot, and I've been really showing just my versatility

1174
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: and I've been liking it.

1175
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: It's been going really well.

1176
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1177
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: I was looking at where you would play in your career,

1178
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: and you were primarily an outside guy so I always

1179
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: been trying to adjust to playing the slot here.

1180
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: This week, yeah, it's definitely been a little different, but

1181
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 2: I've been making sure I get some extra work where

1182
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 2: the coach is, whether it's in the meeting room or

1183
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 2: pre practice, to make sure I know what to do.

1184
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 1: How much had you done that in practice at all?

1185
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: Or this is really kind of like first time deep

1186
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: into the pool? What's yeah?

1187
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 2: I say, I maybe did it like a little bit,

1188
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 2: but this is really this probably been the most I've

1189
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 2: ever done it. What's been the biggest challenge really just

1190
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: figuring out like this zone drop in because you know,

1191
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 2: at corner you have nobody else outside of you, But

1192
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 2: after Nickel, you know you got a different zone drop

1193
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 2: and you got somebody outside of you, or you got

1194
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 2: a different zone that you got to drop into.

1195
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 1: And then I gotta imagine when you're playing man, right,

1196
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: I mean I talked to you guys that the Giants

1197
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,439
Speaker 1: have to make this switch a lot when you're playing

1198
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: outside of you with the sideline, right, and you're going

1199
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: to use that as an extra defender. All right, Well,

1200
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: I know they can't break too far out the sidelines, right,

1201
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: But then the two way go and a lot of

1202
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: space in the slot, So how do you kind of

1203
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: manage that part of it, knowing these days have a

1204
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: two way go and potentially a lot of space on

1205
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: both sides. Yeah, really just playing my leverage.

1206
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: You know, we got a lot of one high so

1207
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 2: just trusting my post help and you know, if they

1208
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 2: break inside, you know, I got a chance to undercut

1209
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 2: it or slip it maybe, and knowing I got underneath

1210
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 2: and over the top help in the middle, and really,

1211
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 2: you know, if they break my leverage outside, just getting

1212
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 2: chested chess with them.

1213
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: I talked to one of your teammates yesterday, Jennings Dunker

1214
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: and Iowa obviously a really big history of developing offensive

1215
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: line and he's a character by the way, hilarious. I

1216
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: love them. But recently you guys have been developing defensive backs.

1217
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: You got you know, Cooper Dejine and Philadelphia got Riley

1218
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 1: Mowson Denver. You guys have put the get put out

1219
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: of a nice group of dbs. What is it about

1220
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: how IOWA coaches you guys up that's allowed you to

1221
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: make such a good transition from college to the pros.

1222
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, our decordinator and slash dB coach, you know, He

1223
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 2: does a great job of getting us ready. He prepares us,

1224
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 2: he tells us, you know, you want to make sure

1225
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 2: you learn and know how to play all five positions

1226
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 2: in the back end, and really just the way he

1227
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: coaches us. You know, he expects a lot of out

1228
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 2: of us, but it's only because he knows how great

1229
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: we can be.

1230
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: And I really feel like you guys are very disciplined

1231
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: in your own coverages. Everyone knows their responsibility to your point,

1232
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: they know their leverage, and you know exactly where you're

1233
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: supposed to be. Yeah. Yeah, really, it's just about doing

1234
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 1: your job. You know.

1235
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 2: Coach talks about, like, you know, just being patient and

1236
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: doing your job. Man, if as long as you're doing

1237
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 2: your job, the ball is going to come your way

1238
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 2: and you're going to make a player.

1239
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: Who's the best one wide receiver you've had to face,

1240
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: either in your college career or you can focus on

1241
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: this year, Who the best wide receiver you've played?

1242
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would definitely say Makayle Lemon going against him

1243
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: back at USC. He's just a smooth route runner, got

1244
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 2: great hands, sells his rounds really well.

1245
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: How about Jeremiah Smith? Have you got to get some

1246
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: med or No, I.

1247
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 2: Haven't had a chance to go up against them, but

1248
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 2: if I did, he would definitely be up.

1249
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: There absolutely all right. When you have a chance of

1250
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: sitting in front of NFL coaches scouts, you have your

1251
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: meetings with them and everything like that. What are some

1252
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: of the things that are peppering you with and they're

1253
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: asking you about to try to learn more about you

1254
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: as a player?

1255
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, really just starting like with your with their family upbringing,

1256
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 2: just seeing you know who you grew up with, you

1257
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 2: know who you've been around, and then a little bit

1258
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 2: of ball questions, you know, like I know the Saints

1259
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 2: they had me get on the whiteboard and you know,

1260
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 2: they drip their defense. He raced it. I had to

1261
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 2: drop my defense, erase it, and then dropped their defense again.

1262
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 2: So I had to go with that, hear.

1263
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 3: I did pretty good.

1264
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: I was able to draw everything up again, so I did.

1265
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:02,240
Speaker 1: Really will that's awesome. What are you trying to prove

1266
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: the coaches when you got thrown the field this week?

1267
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: You know, usually when guys come to the events, they

1268
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: get what their agents, their trainers are. A guy, well,

1269
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: I know nflts might have questions about one, two, and three.

1270
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: I want to show them that what was kind of

1271
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: on your list for things that you wanted to prove

1272
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: this week? Man?

1273
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 2: Really everything just my versatility with that showing like I

1274
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 2: can play the nickel, and then just showing my man

1275
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 2: coverage and really also my ball skills that I can

1276
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 2: also get interceptions to What do you think the best

1277
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 2: part of your game is right now? Man, I'll just

1278
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: say my knowledge of the game. You know, I feel

1279
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 2: like I'm a very smart player. I can recognize formations

1280
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 2: or splits of receivers and just kind of know what

1281
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 2: they're going to do before they do it.

1282
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 1: And what are some of the things as you now

1283
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: work towards the Combine your pro day, things that you're

1284
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: just trying to work on and find tune as you

1285
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 1: try to complete this draft process.

1286
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, just really training, you know, speed wise, definitely, so

1287
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 2: I can run fast at the Combine Pro Day, and

1288
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 2: then really just honing in on a bunch of techniques

1289
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 2: and everything.

1290
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: Who's been the toughest wide receiver had the face here

1291
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: so far?

1292
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 2: I'll say the Texas. Most of the texted tech receivers

1293
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 2: are really good. I think some guy they're tall, but

1294
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 2: they also got shifty moves. Yeah, number five Douglas Man.

1295
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 2: I would watch it at six three. He could get

1296
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: in the out of his breaks.

1297
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: Pretty good for a tall guy, right, Oh yeah, Yeah,

1298
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: I was pretty impressed by him too. Who else from

1299
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: your dB group have you really had had fun interacting

1300
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: with and then just you know, competing alongside and playing

1301
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 1: with so far?

1302
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, really all of them. We got a great

1303
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 2: group of guys, especially on the national team. You know,

1304
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 2: we all chop it up. We're in the media room,

1305
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 2: getting an extra film in and getting extra working in

1306
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 2: pre practice. So man, really, every single guy on our

1307
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 2: team is it's cool to interact with.

1308
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: They're all funny and you know, we're all here to

1309
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: get better. Any NFL corners that that you kind of

1310
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: look up to and you kind of try to model

1311
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: the game off of. Yeah, I like to watch Derek.

1312
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 2: Stingley, Pactors, Jutanaire, Alexander, Jalen Ramsey.

1313
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: Who else? Christian Zale's I really like him. Yeah, I

1314
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: think that's a great list. Any of the sports you

1315
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: play in high school, anything besides football orre you only football?

1316
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 3: Guy?

1317
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I played basketball and baseball. How did you think

1318
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: those two sports help you become a better football player. Man,

1319
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: they help me a lot playing baseball. You know, I

1320
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: was an outfielders so.

1321
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, tracking the ball in the air and then

1322
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 2: just basketball, just agility, you know, moving quickly.

1323
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: Awesome. Man, Hey, dude, it was great to meet you.

1324
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 3: Good.

1325
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: We can thank you very much. I appreciate you. If

1326
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: you want to know how to manage two minutes of

1327
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: crunch time football, I'm your man.

1328
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Speaker 13: But if you're wondering about a long term financial plan,

1329
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 13: you should talk to Citizens.

1330
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: Hey, I can also talk long care I'd like.

1331
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Speaker 8: To learn about Annulia routine.

1332
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: Yes, I knew I could help make sense of your

1333
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: money with Citizens, all right, And then we welcome in

1334
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: one of the most exciting wide receivers at the game

1335
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: this year. I really enjoyed Washington this week. Wide receiver

1336
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: from Texas Tech, Caleb Douglas kilb How are you, man,

1337
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: I'm good man. How you doing I'm doing great? So

1338
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: what were your goals heading into this game that you

1339
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: wanted to kind of show NFL decision makers and kind

1340
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: of put your best list forward to show some of

1341
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: the things that maybe you could do on the field.

1342
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 14: Really, first, first and foremost, the regius effort for real

1343
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 14: I'm always giving one hundred ten percent going out there

1344
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 14: and being consistent and then really just a going out

1345
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 14: there to show if you can move a lot of

1346
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 14: small due nighted, I don't know.

1347
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 1: Well, do let me to my next question, because I

1348
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: looked at your size and wait when you got here.

1349
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: I didn't have a chance to watch it before I

1350
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: got here, and I'm like six thor eight. And you know,

1351
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: when you hear a receiver six or you get a

1352
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,439
Speaker 1: mental picture of what they are. Right then, I saw

1353
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: you out there and you're breaking off routes, You're changing directions.

1354
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: You know how of that you're creating separation? What is

1355
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: it about the way you play that allows you to

1356
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: have such quick feet and change the direction even though

1357
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 1: you're a longer wide receiver regid repetition?

1358
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 14: Confidence for real going out there and knowing that I

1359
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 14: can do that, Just give me a route out there

1360
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 14: and just do what I do.

1361
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: When you meet with these NFL teams, what were some

1362
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: of the questions you've been getting? Are the common questions

1363
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: from team the team? Is it all different or is

1364
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 1: there some specific aspect about you or your game that

1365
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: you really you feel like they're trying to get a

1366
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: hold on.

1367
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 14: We're kind of really reiterating what you just said for real?

1368
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 14: What else brings to your game besides the jump ball

1369
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 14: and everything else? And I kind of getting the same

1370
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 14: answer shop here that I can move like a smaller

1371
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 14: dude as well.

1372
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: When they ask you what you think the strongest part

1373
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: of your game is, what do you tell them?

1374
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 6: Uh?

1375
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 14: I always lead off of blocking. I know that I

1376
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 14: can block my ass off, So go out there and block.

1377
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: I love the fact that a wide receiver list blocking

1378
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: is what their best at. Why why is that so

1379
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: important to you?

1380
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 14: Because you know, you know blocking no rock, so you

1381
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 14: know I'm block, you don't get the row.

1382
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: I think NFL teams would love to hear that, all right,

1383
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: So that will take blocking. Let's take either get open,

1384
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: give more traditional wide receiver skins. What do you think

1385
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: they're stress? Like? What what's your bread and butter that

1386
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:32,919
Speaker 1: you kind of then have all your.

1387
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 14: Counters off of my lamp. I'm go out there and

1388
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 14: uh make make catches. Go out there and make the

1389
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 14: big ball catches. And religion is always like walling to

1390
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 14: fit this off and stuff like that. What makes a

1391
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 14: good contested catcher?

1392
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: What makes it? Yeah?

1393
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 14: I say, confidence real and knowing that you can go

1394
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 14: up there and attack the ball at the highest point

1395
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 14: in going up there in Gidney.

1396
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: How much of that is body control, which I think

1397
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: is is kind of I'm not sure you can train that.

1398
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: I feel like that's kind of natural thing that you

1399
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: have because look, you're running so fast, but sometimes you

1400
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: got to gear down very quickly jump. Your body can't

1401
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: twist and turn. You have to control yourself. How did

1402
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 1: you kind of develop that part of your game to

1403
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: become a good contested catch play?

1404
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 14: It really just be a natural athlete playing multiple sports,

1405
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 14: so always just like using everything that I've always did

1406
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 14: in other sports and just putting it together.

1407
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 1: What are the sports that you play?

1408
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 14: I played baseball that my first love, baseball first and

1409
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 14: then basketball.

1410
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: Ran track when seeing in your high school, So yeah,

1411
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 1: what did you playing baseball position? So I was a pitcher?

1412
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 14: Is there when I was at pitcher, I was probably

1413
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 14: the third base r in outfield somewhere.

1414
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: Have about when you played the outfield. Did your ball

1415
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: tracking you think carry over a little bit?

1416
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 14: I feel like that that definitely surely plays a part.

1417
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 14: You know, you got that small white ball in the air,

1418
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 14: so you're going out there just tracking with the gloves.

1419
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, so you're a picture. Did you try to

1420
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 1: play quarterback?

1421
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1422
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 14: I play quarterback in high school. I started playing receiver

1423
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 14: in my junior year. I played quarterback all my life.

1424
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 14: And then COVID came and one of our receivers got sick,

1425
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 14: and then they was like, hey, you say a stream

1426
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 14: right now?

1427
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 3: Do you want to go play quarterback?

1428
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 1: I mean receiver.

1429
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 14: I was like, I'll go out there and catch the

1430
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 14: ball like I got great hands and there's that asthing.

1431
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: Then I can just been playing receiver. How did playing

1432
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: quarterback help you become a better receiver? Really?

1433
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,240
Speaker 14: Just knowing like the ends and out what the quarterback's

1434
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 14: looking for, knowing my time and knowing that everything you don't.

1435
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: Have to be rushed. You might feel like you while

1436
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 1: you're out there, but it doesn't have to be rushed.

1437
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 1: You have time.

1438
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 14: And then knowing it's like his progression, knowing what he's going,

1439
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 14: what he's looking for, looking at the shells, stuff like that.

1440
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: So you mentioned track and basketball, how did those help

1441
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: you think contribute you becoming a better football player?

1442
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 14: Basketball, he's saying, with the body control, just you know

1443
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 14: in basketball, you're running so fast, ball in your hands,

1444
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 14: fender in front of you. So really just going up

1445
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 14: there and like knowing how to jump, knowing how to win,

1446
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 14: to break, knowing like in certain speeds how fast you're going,

1447
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 14: you gotta.

1448
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: Know how to stop. You stop on the don so

1449
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: you know, I imagine that probably helps you change your direction

1450
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: to that. Yeah, one of the reasons why you're so

1451
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: good at the top of the route. You know, I

1452
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: six year, I'm senior. You shooting guard? Right? Is that

1453
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: what you played in high school? I kind of was

1454
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: like the four if you were the four of the five.

1455
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 14: Yeah, and then when I got to my senior year,

1456
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 14: my junior year, then I became like.

1457
00:56:58,280 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: The wing away a little bit.

1458
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 5: That's all.

1459
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: I changed direction, right, You're trying to ring the down

1460
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: off the dribble that's moving left and right, and that's

1461
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: got to translate, right. Yeah, most definitely what did you

1462
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: do trackwise? Did you run? Did you jump? What you do?

1463
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 14: I never jumped really because, like my senior year, I

1464
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 14: really was just trying to get in shape for college.

1465
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 3: So I went out there.

1466
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: I did four hundred to four by four O, four

1467
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: by two and four bout one. So I am knowing

1468
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: your track background. You ran at four by one, I

1469
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: imagine you probably feel pretty good about what your forty

1470
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: yard dash time is gonna be. Oh yeah, I feel great, aboudy,

1471
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: I feel great, aboudy. How are you at the start?

1472
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: I know that's a big part. That's the biggest part,

1473
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: especially since I'm a taller guy. Yeah, yeah, I fly

1474
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: a lot of building. I'm a big guy that bulls

1475
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: of speed, but also I do have cceleration. But I

1476
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 1: know that at the end of the day, I got it.

1477
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 14: I think get this started down for the forty ain't

1478
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:43,919
Speaker 14: a hundred yard days exactly right.

1479
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,919
Speaker 1: What are some of the aspects of your game tech,

1480
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: like the technical stuff of playing wide receiver that you're

1481
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: still trying to find, tune and get better at as you,

1482
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: you know, get towards your pro day and you know,

1483
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: these scouts kind of try to get a little closer

1484
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: eye on you.

1485
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 14: Real is a key continue to be efficient for real

1486
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 14: going out there and just being smoothing all my cuts

1487
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 14: and ins and out.

1488
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, any receivers that you think that are in

1489
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: the league that kind of mimic or reflect your playing style,

1490
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: I like.

1491
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 14: kJ Osburn I feel like he's a good one, a

1492
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 14: bigger yard that can move.

1493
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 12: Uh.

1494
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: And then that was period of with him once one a.

1495
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 14: Time with just Jefferson, Like how there is a he's

1496
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 14: not a taller guy, but he has a longer built

1497
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 14: he does. Yeah, like yeah, so he's kind of like

1498
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 14: I feel like, kind of looks like me sometime, very

1499
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:29,919
Speaker 14: smooth in his route.

1500
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, what was it about your program that you're

1501
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: a Texas tech that allowed you guys have the success

1502
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: that you did.

1503
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 14: Really just going out there and just throwing around the

1504
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 14: field for real, giving everybody a lot of opportunities, no

1505
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 14: matter where. Yet and you know he had a lot

1506
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 14: of stars on our team. Make sure everybody had opportunities

1507
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 14: for real.

1508
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about one of those stars

1509
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: and your team, your fellow wide receivers here, Reggie Virgil,

1510
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: give me a little scattering report on him.

1511
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 14: Uh really just like a I just say, like Picky Poison. Uh,

1512
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 14: you want to go over there and guard him or

1513
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 14: come over here and guard me, because you finna get

1514
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 14: the right regardless.

1515
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: How are you were. His is a little bit different

1516
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: maybe in terms of the way you play the position.

1517
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 14: You could say I probably I wouldn't just say it

1518
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 14: like that, but you can probably say I'm probably like

1519
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 14: a little more aggressive as like the blocking aspect, stuff

1520
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 14: like that. But other than that, I feel like we

1521
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 14: kind of like I say, picky poison, really just wherever

1522
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 14: you want to go and feel like you did it

1523
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 14: with today.

1524
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: No, I love it. Who has been the toughest corner

1525
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: that you've had to go against this past year in college?

1526
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 11: Uh?

1527
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 3: Type of corner?

1528
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 14: I like the I like the guy from U y

1529
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 14: U zero Okay, yeah, I forgot his last name, but

1530
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 14: he was he was straight.

1531
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: All right? And how about so far at the event

1532
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: this week? Who are some of the tough corners I

1533
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: like coaching hood? Coaching Hood. I feel like it's a

1534
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: good corner, very patient, confident in his game. So yeah, awesome, dude,

1535
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: It's been fun watching this week. And I walk the

1536
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: rest of the way and bag of luck, Thank you sir.

1537
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: All right now, we're joined by wisconentson wide receiver Bennie

1538
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: Anthony Vinne. What's going on, man, Hawaii? I'm good. How

1539
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: you guys doing? We're doing great. How do you think

1540
00:59:59,120 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: your weeks?

1541
00:59:59,480 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 3: Gun?

1542
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: So far? We're two practices in. It's definitely gone good.

1543
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 4: Is each day getting a little bit better, getting back

1544
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 4: in the flow playing football and stuff like that.

1545
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: But it's definitely definitely been fun. How long did it

1546
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: take for you to kind of get the rust off

1547
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: or is the rust still peeled off? Maybe a little bit.

1548
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 4: It's just definitely off now. I really just took a

1549
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 4: took about half the half of the first day it's been.

1550
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,919
Speaker 4: Hadn't played again since November, you know what I'm saying.

1551
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 4: It's just been combine training and obviously doing drills and stuff,

1552
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 4: but getting back on the field, it definitely felt good.

1553
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: What have been your goals this week when you met

1554
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: with your team heading into the week of things that

1555
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: you definitely wanted to show scouts and coaches when you're

1556
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: out there on the field competing. A big thing.

1557
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 4: I wanted to show that I was confident in learning

1558
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 4: the playbook pretty fast. You know, it's a new playbook

1559
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 4: that they put together and like a couple of days,

1560
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 4: coaches got picked not too long ago, and then they

1561
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 4: shout out the playbook. But I wanted to show that

1562
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 4: I could pick up a playbook fast. And another thing

1563
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 4: that's just the mental side, but physical side, just to

1564
01:00:56,240 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 4: show that I'm a fast and an athletic just natural receiver,

1565
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like I can create separation,

1566
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 4: uh and just win.

1567
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 1: Are you happy with housing gone so far in terms

1568
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: of meeting some of those goals, I'm definitely. I'm definitely

1569
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: happy with it.

1570
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 4: It's not over yet, obviously, store on my practice and

1571
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 4: the game, so I still got more to showcase, but

1572
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 4: I am pleased with how it's gone so far.

1573
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 1: When you meet with gms and scouts and everything, what

1574
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: are some of the questions you've been getting asked? Is

1575
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 1: you kind of get introduced to these guys in you're

1576
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: meeting in the person for the for the first time.

1577
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 4: Most of the time it's the You get the basics

1578
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 4: like where are you from, how you raise? Stuff like that,

1579
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 4: and then it uh elevates to uh. Some some scouts

1580
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 4: have different like styles. Some of them go straight into

1581
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 4: like I say, a high school life. How'd you get drafted?

1582
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 4: Or I'm not drafted, but how you get how do

1583
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 4: you threw to?

1584
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1585
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 1: I said draft on turp. It really isn't that much

1586
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 1: different than you honestly, Yeah, do you recruited? And then.

1587
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 4: Favorite dB to go again was a was a common one.

1588
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 4: Another common was like what.

1589
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 5: Is your what do you feel like you can always

1590
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 5: work on? What do you feel like are your strengths?

1591
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 4: Then some of them had had me on the board

1592
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 4: and stuff like that, like, Okay, what's the what's the

1593
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 4: good play versus this coverage or this coverage?

1594
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 5: Or what's your what's your favorite play to go to

1595
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 5: versus this coverage?

1596
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: Stuff like that.

1597
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 4: I feel like those are the most common ones. Also,

1598
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 4: I got a lot of who would you bring along

1599
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 4: with you? Like if you had to pick one player

1600
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 4: from like your team, like in this drive, that's.

1601
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: Good, who would you who would you want to bring

1602
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: along with you? And stuff like that. So it was

1603
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 1: it was definitely interesting. Well, you gonna be prepared, so

1604
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask some of those same questions. Okay, well

1605
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: what do you think your greatest strength is? Is a

1606
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 1: wide receiver? Right now?

1607
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 4: What what's your brend and butter? What are your best at?

1608
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,439
Speaker 4: I think, like I said, I'm a I'm a fast guy.

1609
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 4: I'm a I feel like I'm I'm very elusive. I

1610
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 4: feel like I'm a natural hands catcher. I may have

1611
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 4: a drop or two, like nobody's perfect, but in general,

1612
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 4: I feel like I am a natural hands catcher. I

1613
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 4: feel like I, uh do good with my hands and releases,

1614
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 4: like knocking hands down stuff like that. I also think

1615
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 4: I'm very good at getting vertical and I do get

1616
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 4: the ball. I think that's something that just came natural

1617
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 4: to me, even since I was like younger, Like just getting.

1618
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 5: Catching the ball and then getting vertical immediately.

1619
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 4: I think that that's something that I've always been taught,

1620
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 4: I'm good at, and I think that uh it plays

1621
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 4: it to my strange you know what I'm saying. I

1622
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 4: catch the ball, get vertical real fast. I think that

1623
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 4: it's important in the league because every yard is critical.

1624
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 4: I think that's super important.

1625
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: What are some of the things you're still trying to

1626
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 1: work on on your game and trying to improve as

1627
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 1: you get to the Pro day and he maybe even

1628
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: some of the stuff at the combine you want to

1629
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 1: you want to kind of make sure you get your

1630
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: numbers where they want to be.

1631
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 4: H Okay, So I guess receiver wise, yeah, receiver wise,

1632
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 4: flacking and always.

1633
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 5: Always detail like every route in the route tree.

1634
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 4: Being in a been in three different offenses now, and

1635
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 4: I've always been like the fast guy, the deep threat

1636
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 4: kind of person. So I feel like expanding on just

1637
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 4: tightening up all the intermedia routes and stuff like that,

1638
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 4: just a showcase that I can run those also, And

1639
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 4: I think I feel like I can always work on

1640
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 4: releases also, just just to release package and stuff like that.

1641
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: Is there a receiver that you look up to that

1642
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: you try to model your game off of it? All?

1643
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1644
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 4: I like I like Jettish. I feel like that's a

1645
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 4: common one. He's a He's a really elusive guy. Also

1646
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 4: like Puka too. I feel like he does a good

1647
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 4: job of creating movement definitely inners, definitely in his releases,

1648
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 4: and such a.

1649
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: Physical player too.

1650
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's it's real sneaky, you know what I'm saying.

1651
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 4: It catches you off guard. And I think that he's

1652
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 4: he's real good at that. I feel like he's yeah,

1653
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 4: all right.

1654
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 1: Final question, who are the toughest corners that you had

1655
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 1: to go up against in the big Tan over Wisconsin career?

1656
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 4: One that I initially said in the in the interviews,

1657
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 4: and not give him props too, I told him here,

1658
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 4: uh t J Hall from Iowa. I feel like he's

1659
01:04:58,400 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 4: a he's a good corner. I saw to him this

1660
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 4: more agreed. Yeah, a great kid or he's a great guy, now,

1661
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, of course, but I

1662
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 4: feel like he he was very patient. He's a lengthier

1663
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 4: guy too, and uh he is also sneaky fast.

1664
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1665
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 4: It's sometimes taller guys aren't as quick or not as patient,

1666
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 4: and I thought he did a he is a good

1667
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 4: balance of both, you know what I'm saying. And another

1668
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 4: corner I give props to is Ohio State's cornerback. I

1669
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 4: don't want to, I don't want to say his name wrong.

1670
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 4: He was just said, yes, you got it.

1671
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was another good length to your corner.

1672
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 1: Also, he said a good week this week.

1673
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1674
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's been doing a good job too. All right, dude, good.

1675
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 1: Luck the rest of the way. It was nice mee

1676
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: and yeah, good luck, Thank you very much. Thank you

1677
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: appreciate it, any appreciate it. And now we welcome in

1678
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 1: a member of the John Carroll Blue Street three. You

1679
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 1: might think, is he a coach? Is he a GM

1680
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: That's what usually think about carry don't think of players.

1681
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 1: But he's making a name for himself at the Senior

1682
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 1: Bold the Street Tire Monk retire. How are you, man?

1683
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 14: Don get man?

1684
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 1: How are you? So? What has this been like? You

1685
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 1: were at the American Bowl, correct, and you and you

1686
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 1: got the late call to come up here? What was

1687
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: that like getting that call? And then what was the

1688
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: excitement level of that? Damn? I'm gonna get to go

1689
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: to the best all start and play against some of

1690
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 1: the best guys in the country. Yeah.

1691
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 15: So I'm a big journal guy, so I like the

1692
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 15: you know, manifest power to town car belief. So you know,

1693
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:21,919
Speaker 15: it was already in my journal, and I just knew

1694
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 15: I had to go out there and go to the

1695
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 15: American Ball do my thing and hopefully get the call up.

1696
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 15: And so far, you know, it's been working out in

1697
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 15: my favor.

1698
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 1: I think it was your first one on one wrap,

1699
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. I think you want to

1700
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 1: against cold Hood for the CELA left silence and you

1701
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 1: run them down the field. You make him think you're

1702
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 1: running the nine to go, you break it off. Yeah,

1703
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 1: you get like six yards of separation. Yeah, that first

1704
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: wrap in one on one? How much did that just

1705
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 1: kind of lift and build your confidence?

1706
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 15: That?

1707
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: All right? This guy spposed to be a first round tay

1708
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 1: Damn I.

1709
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 3: Can do this.

1710
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 15: Yeah, so you know it shout out to Colden Hood.

1711
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 15: Obviously I didn't. I didn't know so a lot of

1712
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 15: these guys, no disrespect. I didn't know who they work,

1713
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 15: so I didn't of course that the only Yeah, yeah,

1714
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 15: you know, I'm in the Division three world, so I

1715
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 15: don't really know, you know, who the top guys are.

1716
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,439
Speaker 15: So once I once p Iice finished and I looked

1717
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 15: on Twitter and I saw like, you know, what do

1718
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 15: you was projected?

1719
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay, like you.

1720
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 15: Know, you know, I was pretty excited. Then I was like, okay, yeah,

1721
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 15: so you know, I just kind of embraced it. I knew,

1722
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 15: like I didn't want the coaches and players to think

1723
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 15: this was look and I knew I had to come

1724
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 15: out there the next day and just be consistent, just

1725
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 15: keep stacking days and just show them you know, this

1726
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 15: is the type of player I am.

1727
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 1: And then you beat Chris Johnson Deep, who, by the way,

1728
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 1: is another one of the best quarter Actually I love

1729
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 1: this tape coming and he's he's had a good beat too.

1730
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1731
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen you beat people with your quickness. You

1732
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 1: had a great release on a slant and a yacht

1733
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 1: play Yeah, you've caught contested balls on with at the

1734
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 1: top of the route. So what do you consider your

1735
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: strength because I've just seen it a little bit of everything. Well,

1736
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: what to you is your bread and butter is a

1737
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: wide receiver that you start with that you're the best

1738
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 1: at and then you kind of work everything off of it.

1739
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 15: Yeah, so I think releases, I'm gonna just I got

1740
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 15: a few, So I want to start releases. You know,

1741
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 15: I think just implying the basketball court onto the football

1742
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 15: field player, Yeah has a basket a player.

1743
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: All growing up, all through at high school, I played basketball.

1744
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 15: I didn't say that, you almost like right, Yeah, so

1745
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 15: you know I didn't. I ain't touched the liquor football

1746
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 15: until I got I was a junior in college. So

1747
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 15: I think like when it came to releases, I knew

1748
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 15: I could beat majority of my defenders, really all my defenders,

1749
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 15: because like I'm just using a crossover, and I watched

1750
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 15: Davonte Allen's and Keenan Allen and I used to watch

1751
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 15: their mic up stuff off of YouTube and just pick

1752
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 15: their brains and I just imply stuff into my game

1753
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 15: and put my own flavor into it. So I want

1754
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 15: to say my releases is one broad runners too, because

1755
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 15: like you know, it's just like stopping on the diamond basketball,

1756
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:30,640
Speaker 15: you know.

1757
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:32,640
Speaker 1: So I think that was just easy for me.

1758
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 15: And then my vertical I mean, as some people have seen,

1759
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 15: like you know, I got a little bit of bounce.

1760
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 15: Yeah yeah, so that was I feel like that's one

1761
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 15: of the favorite things in my game, just because I

1762
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 15: know people can't jump with me.

1763
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, I do like that. So why don't you

1764
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 1: tell people your story that that that don't know it?

1765
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: How did you get from basketball to find his ball?

1766
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 1: All right? So in high school I played all basketball

1767
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 1: and no football.

1768
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 15: I ended up having the opportunity to go walk on

1769
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 15: the l s U for basketball. The first semester, my

1770
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 15: mother got sick already. Yeah yeah, she had blad of cancer.

1771
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 15: So I had to come back home. I came home.

1772
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 15: It was around the COVID era, so you know, around

1773
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 15: COVID a lot of things were shut down.

1774
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 1: Basketball wasn't in my vision.

1775
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 15: I was gonna get a job, but I couldn't get

1776
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 15: a job because you know coviding.

1777
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah.

1778
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 15: So me and my brother, my brother Camar Gummy six

1779
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 15: two twenty quarterback at North Greenville University he was in

1780
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 15: the backyard one day, just throwing the football around. He's like, look, bro,

1781
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 15: you might as well do this because you ain't got

1782
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 15: nothing else to do with your life.

1783
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm like, might as well.

1784
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 15: So then I ended up walking onto the well. No,

1785
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 15: I end up been rolling to the University of Houston,

1786
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 15: and I had intentions of walking on but since it

1787
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:45,759
Speaker 15: was COVID you couldn't. I couldn't walk home because everybody

1788
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 15: had got the COVID era. So there was a lot

1789
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,759
Speaker 15: of guys coming back, so there was no roster spots

1790
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 15: available for me. So I had to figure out, like,

1791
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,719
Speaker 15: what can I do to get myself onto a college

1792
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 15: roster with no high school football film? So I ended

1793
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 15: up uploading some routes on air. We didn't play one

1794
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,719
Speaker 15: snap high Nah. I wasn't even thinking about football, that's crazy.

1795
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:03,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't even that.

1796
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 15: I was telling myself, you know, I'm going to NBA, like,

1797
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 15: you know, I'm not worried about football.

1798
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 1: So so he's trying to fight a program without high

1799
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 1: school film.

1800
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:14,560
Speaker 15: Yeah, ou high school fil Okay? So then sorry for

1801
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 15: throughout no no. So I ended up uploading some routes

1802
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 15: on air. On to Facebook and there's a guy named

1803
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,799
Speaker 15: Eddie Franca who has a flag football team out in Miami, Florida,

1804
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 15: and he reached out to me. He was like, look, bro,

1805
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 15: we got a tournament in Vegas. You should come out.

1806
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 1: Let's see what you got.

1807
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 15: So I went out to Vegas, I did my thing,

1808
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 15: and I end up getting the opportunity to be on

1809
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 15: the Olympics for flag football.

1810
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 1: Right.

1811
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 15: But they tell me if I were to do that,

1812
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 15: I would lose all my college eligibility. And I was like,

1813
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 15: you know, I didn't start playing football for flag football reason.

1814
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 15: So Eddie, I told Eddie my aspirations of playing in

1815
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 15: college football. He actually knows on Duch schorts Due. Schortz

1816
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 15: is the office of Quality Control coach for the forty

1817
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:50,640
Speaker 15: nine ers. At the time, Duce was at Missoo. So

1818
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 15: I ended up forming a flag football highlight tape, ended

1819
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 15: up getting to the Deuce Duds, sent it to Maszoo

1820
01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 15: and a few other schools. They all liked me, but

1821
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 15: they were scared to take the chance with me because

1822
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 15: I never put on football pass the day in my life.

1823
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 1: Of course, yeah, which made sense, I get it. Yeah.

1824
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 15: So then my film ended up getting to Nickels State.

1825
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 15: I got to Nickel State in the year twenty twenty two.

1826
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 15: I was in eligible that first year because I had

1827
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 15: switched my major like four or five times in school,

1828
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 15: so I didn't have enough credits towards a major. So

1829
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 15: then twenty twenty three came around, I started. I was

1830
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 15: a starter in my first five games of the season.

1831
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 15: I ended up missing the game because I had a

1832
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 15: right ankle sprain injury. I came back and I just

1833
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 15: lost my spot. You know, It's just a part of business. Yeah,

1834
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 15: So then I had to figure out my next chapter.

1835
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 15: I ended up entering the transperport on the NCAA tell

1836
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 15: me I had no more D want eligibility left. I

1837
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 15: could only play D two, D three and go down.

1838
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 15: I don't know, I guess they said, because since I've

1839
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 15: been in school, I've been a full time student in

1840
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:43,799
Speaker 15: my clock started, these.

1841
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: Rules are so copple years, so I can't even. Yeah,

1842
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 1: it was weird, so I can't even, you know. I

1843
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 1: just took it for what it was and I had

1844
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 1: to find my way.

1845
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:52,679
Speaker 15: So then Eddie, the same guy hern the Flag football team,

1846
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 15: knew coach Jeff Bahman because Jeff Breman just actually got

1847
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 15: the job at buccnal by the time he was at

1848
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 15: John Carroll and he reached out to me. I was like,

1849
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 15: a time, we saw the first thirty seconds of your

1850
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 15: film and we want you. And so then he's like, look,

1851
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 15: we know you got aspiracis playing in the league. We

1852
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 15: got forty plus alums in the league and we can

1853
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 15: help you get there. So I was like, shoot, I'm

1854
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,639
Speaker 15: going to John Carroll. And then after that it was history.

1855
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: How big of a culture shock was it being in

1856
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 1: cold Ohio? Yeah, there be from the south, Yeah, it was.

1857
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 1: It was. It was disgusting.

1858
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,599
Speaker 15: It was disgusting, you know, just going from warm weather

1859
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 15: being at Christmas time being in eighty degrees to going

1860
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 15: to Cleveland around Christmas time to being.

1861
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 1: In negative ey.

1862
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1863
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 15: Yeah, literally, So that was the That was the only

1864
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 15: thing I didn't like about Cleveland. But other than that,

1865
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 15: you know, I had a great experience, great time, and

1866
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 15: you know, I just want to shout out to all

1867
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 15: my coaches there for letting me get my feetwet and

1868
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 15: learn the game, let me mess up, let me you know,

1869
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:47,599
Speaker 15: just elevate.

1870
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 1: So yeah, so what are your goals now? As someone

1871
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 1: that I mean I'm sure you're introducing yourself to NFL

1872
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 1: people now the same way you were introducing yourself to

1873
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 1: Division one college was like he been kind of been

1874
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 1: through this bloor and a lot ways. So what are

1875
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 1: you trying to get across to these NFL decision makers

1876
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 1: about you as a player, but maybe even more importantly

1877
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 1: you as a guy, as to why you're someone that

1878
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 1: they should in best in.

1879
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 15: Yeah, I've been through a lot of adversity. I actually

1880
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 15: just passed season. My mother just passed away. Yeah, yeah,

1881
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,640
Speaker 15: so she was dealing with cancer again. And you know,

1882
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 15: I'm just a guy who likes to I'm humbled, I'm

1883
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 15: hard working, and I'm hungry. So like that's that's the

1884
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 15: things that I live by, and I just want them

1885
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 15: to know, like, you know, I'm gonna come.

1886
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: Into whatever team decides to take the chance for me.

1887
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 15: I'm gonna come in there, do my best, get myself

1888
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 15: on the field, and I'm gonna work hard.

1889
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 1: Now, if I'm not mistaken, I believe you were listed

1890
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 1: as a slot on the roster. I was looking at you.

1891
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 1: Do you think yourself as a slot? Do you see

1892
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 1: yourself as an outside guy? How do you view yourself

1893
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 1: as a white favor. I view myself as a versatile receiver.

1894
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 15: You know, if you pull on my John Carroll tape,

1895
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 15: you will see I was in the slot on the outside,

1896
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:50,919
Speaker 15: and I mean if you see some of my jumping abilities,

1897
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 15: I don't jump like I'm a slot receiver.

1898
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 1: So I think you know, I could play anywhere on

1899
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 1: the field. What have you done on special teams because

1900
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 1: obviously that's something you're gonna have to do right away

1901
01:13:58,760 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 1: you get.

1902
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 15: To the press, right, So in practice at John Carroll

1903
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:04,560
Speaker 15: my well, obviously my coach wouln't let me, you know,

1904
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 15: switch teams in the game, but that practice I used

1905
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 15: to be a returner, gunner and missile like I played. Yeah, yeah,

1906
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 15: just isn't some of my speed and stuff. So you

1907
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 15: know I'm open to it all, you know, So wherever

1908
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 15: I fit in will be best.

1909
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 1: Dude, that's awesome. And then have you gotten the combine invite?

1910
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 3: No?

1911
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 1: I imagine probably not right, Yeah, but after they see

1912
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: it here, man, you will. Yeah, so you have a

1913
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 1: prota though, I'm sure.

1914
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1915
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 1: What are you trying to really lock in on in

1916
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 1: terms of getting your time straight and making sure when

1917
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 1: you do that athletic testing that NFL teams don't exactly

1918
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 1: the type of athlete that. Yeah, I think the main

1919
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 1: thing is a forty You know I've been The main

1920
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 1: that I've been working on is that that start. So

1921
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 1: have you done track before it all or nah? Na

1922
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 1: a high school? I didn't.

1923
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:47,680
Speaker 15: I think I did long jone, but I never was

1924
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 15: really running out. Yeah, so that the one thing I

1925
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 15: do want to just clean up is just that starting off.

1926
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,679
Speaker 1: Forty so important. Yeah, people got to cut two tenths

1927
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 1: of a second because of the start. Yeah. So yeah,

1928
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 1: so that's the Yeah, that's the one thing that I

1929
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 1: am working on. So how about craft is a wide receiver?

1930
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 1: You know, you talk about what you're good at. What

1931
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 1: are the things that that you're still trying to smooth out?

1932
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 1: Or someone that has not played football very long, sure,

1933
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 1: this is a lot of like technical things trying to

1934
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 1: find too.

1935
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 15: So I'm a perfectionist, so I feel like all aspects

1936
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 15: of my game have room front program. I mean, I'm

1937
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 15: not even playing two and a half years, so you know,

1938
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 15: everything could be cleaned up. When I first got the Nickols,

1939
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 15: guys used to calling YouTube because I used to steal

1940
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 15: everything off of YouTube and put it.

1941
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 3: In my game.

1942
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 15: So I think when I go home, I'm gonna just

1943
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 15: learn from the reps that I did lose too in

1944
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 15: the one on one stuff and just put my head

1945
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 15: down and continue to gun, continue to pull stuff from YouTube, Yeah,

1946
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 15: and just clean my game up.

1947
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,520
Speaker 1: Is there someone in the league that you think accurately

1948
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 1: represents your combination of skill set?

1949
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1950
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 1: All right, I love this question.

1951
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 15: So I got four receivers, that's at the top of

1952
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 15: my So I got Davonte Adams and Keenan Allen.

1953
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 1: When it comes to the release packaging, I like Keenan Alloy.

1954
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 1: That's a good one.

1955
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 15: One guy do want to slip in that I've been

1956
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:56,759
Speaker 15: getting in comparison to this week is Stevie Johnson.

1957
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 1: Stevie Johnson. Yeah, he's a great right run created a

1958
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 1: lot of separation back for the Mills. Yeah, so good

1959
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 1: one too. I like that.

1960
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 15: So when it comes to the release packages, I used

1961
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 15: to watch the all the like micd up stuff on

1962
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 15: YouTube and I could see them having a ball in

1963
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 15: their hands. So I kind of just took that and

1964
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 15: then plied it into my own game. And when he

1965
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 15: came to rout running and stuff, I'll say Calvin Riley

1966
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 15: and Odell Beckham like and then out day breaks. I

1967
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 15: feel like our stature is similar wingspan. So those are

1968
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 15: my four day.

1969
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 1: See everyone was those like justin Jefferson Amage or Chase

1970
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 1: Youtua names. I like that's it's from YouTube. Like it's

1971
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 1: pretty Yeah, I've been learning. Yeah, dude, it's great. Heat

1972
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Speaker 1: to know your good luck the rest of the week.

1973
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:35,799
Speaker 1: Good if you go through the process, hopefully get that combody.

1974
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:37,799
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I hope to see in the process appreciate.

1975
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Speaker 1: Thank you. All right, now we're joined by Iowa Offensive Lineman,

1976
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Speaker 1: Jenny's Unker, Jenny's how white Man good?

1977
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 3: How are you doing?

1978
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 1: I'm doing great? How's the week on? So far? We're

1979
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 1: one practicing. I watched your one on one reps. What

1980
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 1: are you thinking in terms of how you did good?

1981
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Speaker 13: You know, I mean there's so a lot of things

1982
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 13: I gotta work on.

1983
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Speaker 3: You know.

1984
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Speaker 13: I took some notes from that yes or today watching

1985
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 13: the film and you know yesterday watching the film, So

1986
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 13: we're going to implement those today. I need to get

1987
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 13: a little bit more depth in my pass sets. I'm

1988
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 13: kind of making contact from the guy is, you know,

1989
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 13: even with me. I need to make it when he's

1990
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 13: above me. So if you like, if you're looking on

1991
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:07,640
Speaker 13: the film, you draw a line by yourself like this,

1992
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 13: and you want to make contact when he's above, not

1993
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 13: even or below.

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Speaker 12: If that makes sense.

1995
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Speaker 1: So, yeah, now you've done a little tackle, so I've

1996
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 1: end some guard stuff. Right. How has it been trying

1997
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 1: to kind of swap back and forth? Are you need

1998
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 1: to be swapping right and left during the week two?

1999
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 13: I don't know if I'm swapping right and left currently.

2000
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 13: I would have to ask my coach. As of right now,

2001
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 13: I'm ripping right guard and right tackle. Yeah, I mean,

2002
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 13: and I always kind of blame the same they're kind

2003
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 13: of the same things that IOWA.

2004
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 3: Sometimes.

2005
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 13: The only thing is there's a little bit more time

2006
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 13: in between contact and tackle and guard.

2007
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 1: It goes a lot faster a guard right.

2008
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 13: It does, but there's also a less distance, which is

2009
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 13: nice sometimes. And the guys aren't as fast. I mean,

2010
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 13: these dns like they're get off is they're fast. I

2011
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 13: mean obviously the best dns from the country, so they're

2012
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 13: they're pretty fast.

2013
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, how could it help to mix up your approach,

2014
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 1: like get that short set on him right, get a

2015
01:17:57,320 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 1: little quick so they don't get that running start sometimes.

2016
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Speaker 13: I Mean the thing with these guys too, is like

2017
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 13: you can't go in without a plan really because you're

2018
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 13: gonna get cooked. So if you aren't dial, then you

2019
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 13: know a rate of rock and roll and have a

2020
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 13: plan set like it's going to be bad. Yeah, that's

2021
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 13: what I would say.

2022
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 1: How much did you book at the tape of some

2023
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 1: of these guys, so you do have a plan depending

2024
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: on who's going against you?

2025
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean obviously you look at the tape of

2026
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 13: these guys, But what it really comes down to is

2027
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 13: how you play and how you how your fundamentals are.

2028
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 13: I mean, they can do you know, a million different things,

2029
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 13: but if you don't have good fundamentals and you aren't

2030
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 13: sure about what you're doing, it doesn't matter what they did.

2031
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 1: Obviously, you'veatard with Hackle experience, that was your primary spot.

2032
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 1: How much have you played guard? Are you just kind

2033
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 1: of getting into it now? Did you do that a

2034
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 1: lot of? Iowa?

2035
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 13: No, So I haven't played guard in like three or

2036
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 13: four years. See, it's kind of almost like a new

2037
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 13: position a little bit. But but yeah, like the good

2038
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 13: thing is that IOWA kind of playing the same, Like

2039
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 13: it's kind of we're talked to run block the same,

2040
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 13: We're talked through everything the same. So I mean, Stephfoine knew.

2041
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 13: But it's not like it's not like I'm playing quarter

2042
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:00,599
Speaker 13: rack or the whole new position, you know what I mean?

2043
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is it about Kirk Ferentz in the program

2044
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 1: he built there, especially on the offensive line, that has

2045
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 1: been able to develop so many good players at that position.

2046
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,759
Speaker 13: I think it's who heat. I think it's his approach

2047
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 13: to developing you as a man first. You know, it's

2048
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:18,719
Speaker 13: always you yield the man first and the football player follows.

2049
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 13: Because you can be as talented as if you as

2050
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 13: you want. But if you don't show up you know,

2051
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 13: early rate of rock and roll, it doesn't really matter.

2052
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 13: And if your fundamentals suck, even as you can be

2053
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 13: as talented as you want, it doesn't matter. Right, I mean,

2054
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 13: all the guys, most of the guys, I are highly recruited.

2055
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:36,719
Speaker 13: I was my only offer, you know, my right guard

2056
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 13: this year that I played next to. He had one

2057
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 13: other offer and I think it was in DSU, you know,

2058
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 13: and he's a great player.

2059
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:44,679
Speaker 12: So I mean, talent's great.

2060
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 13: You have to have the prerequisite talent to you know,

2061
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 13: play college football and whatever.

2062
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 1: But it's just kind of who you are as you

2063
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:53,559
Speaker 1: talk to these NFL teams. Are they talking to you

2064
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,719
Speaker 1: more about being a tackle on the pros or a guard?

2065
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 1: Does it depend team to team? How has that gone

2066
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 1: in terms of those conversations.

2067
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean I was just kind of saying, like,

2068
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 13: whatever they need, Like, if you guys need me to

2069
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:07,640
Speaker 13: rip whatever position like, doesn't matter to me as long

2070
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 13: as I'm there and playing some ball.

2071
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 1: I should. I asked you if you played guard much, Iole,

2072
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 1: how much have you played on the left side in

2073
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 1: terms of practice and stuff in Iowa? At least a

2074
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 1: lot of times when you're a younger player, they try

2075
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 1: to put you on both sides so you're flexible. How

2076
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 1: much left side expirence do you have?

2077
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:20,599
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2078
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 13: So my first year playing I missed my first year,

2079
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 13: but so my second year, like my freshman year or whatever,

2080
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 13: I played right and left guard. Do as we usually

2081
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 13: like to start our tackles at guard and then and

2082
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:31,719
Speaker 13: then move them out because you wanted to be physical.

2083
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 13: So yeah, I played a little bit of left guard.

2084
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that can be a tough switch. Right when

2085
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 1: you go right to left, your footwork gets opposite right,

2086
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,759
Speaker 1: your hand working be a little bit different. How easily

2087
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:45,560
Speaker 1: can you kind of move back and forth or that

2088
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 1: to be a pretty big adjustment to go back to

2089
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:47,839
Speaker 1: the left side.

2090
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 13: The only thing would probably be like adjusting my precing

2091
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 13: that plan because I'm so used to being on the

2092
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 13: right side, Like if we have an inside zone right,

2093
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 13: if I'm playing the right side, like I know my footwork,

2094
01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 13: and if I'm on the left side, I'd be like, Okay,

2095
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 13: so I get in a left handed stance, I gotta

2096
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 13: think about that, and then I gotta think about Stephan.

2097
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:05,680
Speaker 13: You know how to step a little bit, So my

2098
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 13: pre stat plan would have to adjust a little bit.

2099
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:08,679
Speaker 1: But it's still a same footwork.

2100
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 13: It's just different, you know, a little bit different.

2101
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 1: What are you trying to get across? The NFL teams

2102
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 1: about you as a person, you as a guy when

2103
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:17,680
Speaker 1: you have these mets with him and you talk to him.

2104
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, I'm just getting across and I'll be consistent.

2105
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 13: I'm dependable. I'm gonna be the same guy every day.

2106
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 13: I'd be ready to be coached. I want to be coached,

2107
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 13: and I'm excited to start.

2108
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 1: I want to give you each as a pump up your guy,

2109
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 1: Bo Stevens. He's here with you. You guys are working together.

2110
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 1: How cool is it, first of all to be here

2111
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 1: together with him and how and and tell the folks

2112
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:36,799
Speaker 1: about him as a player.

2113
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:38,639
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean it's awesome. I mean just being able

2114
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 13: to kind of grow up with him because we came

2115
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 13: in together, you know, the we're the same age. So

2116
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 13: getting to kind of grow up with him in college

2117
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 13: and see the progression that he's made from our freshman

2118
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 13: year to where he is now.

2119
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 1: You know, now he's.

2120
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 13: Engaged and he's kind of a full adult. He's got

2121
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 13: a house, he's got two dogs. Yeah, So just getting

2122
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 13: to kind of see him grow up and the player

2123
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 13: he is now. I mean, he hits hard, he's a

2124
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 13: great guard. So it's awesome to see him on the

2125
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:02,839
Speaker 13: success he's had.

2126
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 1: I finally, what are your goals the rest of the

2127
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 1: week as you're on the field. What what do you

2128
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 1: really want to make sure you show nflts about you

2129
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 1: as an offensive lineman?

2130
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 13: Yeah, just block some guys and have great effort.

2131
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:17,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, spoken like a cheue iowen offensive lineman. I love it. Yeah,

2132
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 1: Jenny's it was great getting to know you. Good luck

2133
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 1: the rest of the week.

2134
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 3: Thank you, sir.

2135
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 1: Join by Jacobe Lane. Jacoby, what is the how's the

2136
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 1: first one day practice the books? How do you think

2137
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 1: it went for you on day number one?

2138
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 16: Yeah, just being able to grow as a person, compete

2139
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 16: against the best, getting comfortable with the plays, and then

2140
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 16: putting it all on some fruition.

2141
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:34,680
Speaker 1: Uh. It was a little bumpy, but I think the

2142
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:36,560
Speaker 1: overall I dike good. What was it like trying to

2143
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 1: learn a playbook, an NFL playbook in such a short

2144
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 1: period of time.

2145
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,560
Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm blessed to be able to be given opportunity.

2146
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 16: I think a lot of times you get so used

2147
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 16: to writing your own college offense that when they when

2148
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 16: they spring it on you, it's hard at first. But

2149
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 16: being able to just only be based on football right now,

2150
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 16: it's a It's not It's not as tough as having

2151
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 16: to have school and football, So just just getting used

2152
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:00,760
Speaker 16: to that and taking it for what it is. I

2153
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:02,639
Speaker 16: love football more than anything, so I have no problem

2154
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 16: staying up and learning plays. But when you add to

2155
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 16: school to the add equation, it gets a little bit bumpy.

2156
01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 16: So I think now being able to not have school

2157
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 16: just is a whole different dynamic.

2158
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 1: Is it the route combinations that are different or is

2159
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 1: it mostly just new verbiage? Oh?

2160
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 16: Yeah, the terminology the verbiage. A lot of times it's

2161
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 16: not called the same things. The depths aren't the same,

2162
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 16: the splits aren't the same because the lines on the field.

2163
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 1: Lasts are exactly. As a bigger wide receiver, what is

2164
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 1: it to you the key to create separation at the

2165
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:30,719
Speaker 1: top of the route as a bigger wide receiver small

2166
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 1: it's easier for these smaller guys right there, low to

2167
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 1: the ground, they got short legs. For you, it's probably

2168
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a challenge. So what's the

2169
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 1: key for you for creating separation as a bigger wide out?

2170
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 1: All right?

2171
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Speaker 16: Like you said, they have a not necessarily easier time,

2172
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 16: but a much more functionable time getting in and out

2173
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 16: of stuff because they're lower to the ground. So I

2174
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 16: think realizing that and then being able to do that myself,

2175
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 16: making sure I'm not standing straight up trying to break

2176
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:55,680
Speaker 16: or reaching to get into a route. But at the

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01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 16: same time, sometimes you can revert back to that because

2178
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 16: you're just so used to it. And I think throughout

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Speaker 16: my draft process as one of the things I've taken

2180
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 16: really serious is trying to be able to in times

2181
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 16: of fatigue or old tiredness, being able to just revert

2182
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 16: back to that as a basic thing rather than what

2183
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 16: I'm used.

2184
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 1: What's the key to being a good contested catch wide receiver.

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01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 16: I think just being able to not necessarily time up

2186
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 16: your jumps, but I have a feel for the ball

2187
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 16: in the air, know when to fight through guys and

2188
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 16: let the ball come over to your shoulder.

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01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 1: I think it's just more of a field thing more

2190
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 1: than ninety three. And when you sit down with these

2191
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 1: scouts and coaches in these meetings with NFL teams, what

2192
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 1: are the things you're trying to get across to them

2193
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 1: about you as a player and as a person off

2194
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 1: the field.

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01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 16: Yeah, just who I am as a person. I'm not

2196
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 16: really just a football player. I'm a locker room guy.

2197
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 16: I'm person that is a great communicator to everybody throughout

2198
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 16: the building. And that's one thing I prided myself upon

2199
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 16: since I first got to USC too, So just being

2200
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 16: able to stay true to that and not really being

2201
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 16: shy just because it's a new level, just being able

2202
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:54,679
Speaker 16: to be myself.

2203
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:56,600
Speaker 1: And then, finally, what are your main goals for the

2204
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 1: rest of this week and then for the process leading

2205
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 1: up to the combine your pro day, the things you

2206
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 1: want to try to prove the NFL teams that you

2207
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 1: can do that maybe they might have some doubts about.

2208
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think being able to shake a day or

2209
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:10,720
Speaker 16: grow from things that I might not do well and

2210
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 16: then just being able to prove that it's everything is

2211
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 16: about the next day and how you handle it, and

2212
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 16: I take that very serious. And being able to grow

2213
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 16: one person every day is something I'm big on. Whether

2214
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 16: it's through football ors through learning things. It's always there's

2215
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:26,680
Speaker 16: always an opportunity to learn. So being able to not

2216
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 16: be a bonehead guy and realize that there's always opportunities

2217
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 16: to learn that that's.

2218
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:34,640
Speaker 1: Anything specific from a technique perspective that you're trying to

2219
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 1: find toune no good stuff, nank good look the rest

2220
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 1: of the week. Thank you, Thank you. Joined by Tanner

2221
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 1: crazy old tight end that if Houston Tanner, how's the

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01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 1: week one so far? You're one practice in? How's everything been?

2223
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:44,719
Speaker 1: That's been awesome?

2224
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 13: There's are all really cool coaches here, really cool guys here,

2225
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 13: and it's just fun to get to nest new people.

2226
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 1: When you get to an event like this, you gather

2227
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 1: with your agent and your team and you try to

2228
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 1: figure out, right, here's my goals. Here's I want to

2229
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 1: show NFL skuys that on the field, what were those

2230
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:57,720
Speaker 1: goals that you set out for yourself before you got here.

2231
01:25:57,920 --> 01:25:59,599
Speaker 8: I just want to show that I'm a physical competitor.

2232
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 13: I want to get my job done every play, whatever

2233
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 13: it's called for me to do, whether it's in the

2234
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 13: run game, pass game, I just want to be able

2235
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:06,720
Speaker 13: to dominate all aspects of the game as a tight end.

2236
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 1: As you've had some of these meetings with these NFL teams,

2237
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 1: what are some of the things that they've asked about

2238
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:12,679
Speaker 1: you as a player that they seem to be still

2239
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 1: trying to work do and figure out.

2240
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Speaker 13: Yeah, just I got to stick my face in the

2241
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 13: run game. It was summer I developed later in the

2242
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 13: run game. It wasn't asking me much to do at

2243
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 13: ball State, but I got into it a Houston. I

2244
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 13: felt I got developed fast, and from week one to

2245
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 13: week thirteen, I saw a lot of progress, and I

2246
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 13: think I'm going to continue with my frame to develop

2247
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 13: in the run game and eventually be a dominant run

2248
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 13: blocker in the run.

2249
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Speaker 1: Game, where do you think you've made the most progress

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Speaker 1: in that respect, either from a technique perspective or just

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01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 1: to your point, getting your head and there from a

2252
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 1: physicality perspective, Yeah, a little.

2253
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 13: Bit of both understanding my role and understanding the whole runs. Like,

2254
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 13: I feel like I have a really good idea of

2255
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,679
Speaker 13: passing concepts and understanding the entire play, and I feel

2256
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 13: like taking that into the run game as well and

2257
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 13: understanding the entire concept and what everyone's job is helps

2258
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 13: me a lot and play a lot faster.

2259
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 1: As you now work over the next three months, you're

2260
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 1: getting ready for the combine, your prote all this stuff.

2261
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:57,640
Speaker 1: What part of that are you still working on from

2262
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 1: a technique perspective that you're still trying to hold overall?

2263
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 8: Really just getting stronger.

2264
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 13: I was a really skinny coming into college and it's

2265
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 13: been an uphill battle in the weight room for me.

2266
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 13: But I've been getting real strong with my trainers and

2267
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 13: we're working on it and I'm going to continue to

2268
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 13: keep you on.

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01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 1: You're six six and a half two forty five. Is

2270
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 1: that where you want to play at? Do you want

2271
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 1: to get to like two fifty five two sixty Where

2272
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:16,639
Speaker 1: do you want to end up when all said and done.

2273
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I could hold two fty five or

2274
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 8: two sixty very well.

2275
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 13: I think I have the frame to do it. I

2276
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 13: have a wider frame, white shoulders, and still some pretty

2277
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:24,599
Speaker 13: skinny arms. I want to gets some biceps and try

2278
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 13: steps on me. So we're gonna work on it.

2279
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 1: Is that something though, where you get to the combine,

2280
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:30,560
Speaker 1: you don't want to put on too much weights in

2281
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 1: your forty time, mind not be as good. That might

2282
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 1: scare people off. How do you kind of strike that

2283
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 1: balance when you're going through your training? Yeah, it's just

2284
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 1: something I talked through with my trainers. See where I'm

2285
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 1: most comfortable, and see how we're running. See if we're

2286
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 1: still hitting the same times. And as I'm getting stronger,

2287
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 1: I'm putting on more way, I'm getting faster as well.

2288
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:45,600
Speaker 1: So assuming to work out very well. Do you have

2289
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 1: any goals you've kind of said if you don't want

2290
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 1: put a number in and a half to do there any

2291
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 1: goals that you set for yourself when you when you

2292
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 1: get to the combine, do your jumps to your forty

2293
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 1: stuff like that, run fast? That's a good goal. All right,

2294
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 1: Let's talk about you as a receiver. That's the fun stuff, right,

2295
01:27:57,920 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 1: If you get in a huddle and you know, you

2296
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 1: get the ball and you could pick the route you

2297
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 1: want to run. What route would you want to run?

2298
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:05,440
Speaker 1: Let's start against man to man defense.

2299
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 8: Man man, I want to run a corner oute.

2300
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 13: I want to get my quarterback to being an opportunity

2301
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 13: to just put it up high and put in a

2302
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 13: spot where only I could get it, because mathematically there's

2303
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 13: a lot of spots where they could throw where only

2304
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 13: I could get it, and I love everyone up and

2305
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:18,720
Speaker 13: getting it. How about against zone against zone, I just

2306
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 13: want to search shout over the middlefield. I'll move around,

2307
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 13: find the zone and my quarterback and I'll be on

2308
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 13: the same page.

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01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 1: What's the nuance and finding holes in his zone? Because

2310
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 1: for a tight end that's very important, Right, You're gonna

2311
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 1: get a lot of linebackers and safeties in the middlefield

2312
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 1: is going to be crowded. You have to find that

2313
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 1: open space. What's the nuance to that? How much is

2314
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 1: it film work? How much is it instinct during the game?

2315
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 1: Put it all together for me.

2316
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:38,759
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a lot of instinct.

2317
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 1: At first.

2318
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:40,679
Speaker 13: I feel like the first three years I was asked

2319
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 13: to do it a lot of ball state as well,

2320
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 13: and there's a lot of instinct, but this year, having

2321
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:45,560
Speaker 13: more confidence in it and kind of getting used to

2322
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 13: defensive cornator's tendencies and studying that throughout the week and

2323
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 13: seeing what are their third down calls where they're based

2324
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 13: D and D calls in two minute where their calls

2325
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 13: like Western Berenden butter that they like to go to.

2326
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 13: Just kind of having an idea of what his tendency

2327
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 13: is going to be and what the looks are going

2328
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:00,040
Speaker 13: to be, and then I just feeling it from that,

2329
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 13: It makes it a lot easier and allows me to

2330
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 13: play a lot faster.

2331
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 1: The other part of this is that when you're running

2332
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:06,600
Speaker 1: seam rouse and stuff like that, there's gonna be contested balls. Right,

2333
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 1: You're never gonna be wide open. There's gonna be a

2334
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 1: guy there ready to hit you. What's the key for

2335
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:12,760
Speaker 1: a player at your size, six six years old guy

2336
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:14,759
Speaker 1: to be good at contested catches?

2337
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:16,640
Speaker 13: Yeah, attack the ball in the air, don't wait for

2338
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 13: it to get in your body. Get to the ball

2339
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 13: as soon as possible. It's a race to get to

2340
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 13: the ball, and then once you get it, bring into

2341
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 13: your body as quick as.

2342
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 8: Possible and as tight as possible.

2343
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 1: How tough it is to tell yourself, Look, whether I

2344
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 1: catch it or I drop it, I'm gonna get hit here.

2345
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:29,920
Speaker 1: A safety's gonna get me in the ribs. I might

2346
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 1: as well come down with the ball anyway and not

2347
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 1: get my alligator arms and start looking around.

2348
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, it hurts a lot less when you

2349
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 8: catch it, so it's a lot better.

2350
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:38,680
Speaker 1: It's a good handswer I've been. Finally, when you sit

2351
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 1: down and talk to these NFL coaches, we talked about

2352
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:42,680
Speaker 1: them asking you as a run blocker, right, what do

2353
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:44,560
Speaker 1: you want to get across them about you as a

2354
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 1: guy once you bring to a locker room as a teammate,

2355
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 1: as a player, things like that.

2356
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I really love the game. I'm really

2357
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 8: all about it.

2358
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 13: I'm going to be in the game the rest of

2359
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 13: my life, whether it's coaching after football or commentating whatever

2360
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 13: I could get into.

2361
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 8: I want to be around football and I love it.

2362
01:29:57,720 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 13: And I had a coach that really instilled that love

2363
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 13: to me, just showing me his passion through how he

2364
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 13: coached and how he loved up on players and also

2365
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:05,120
Speaker 13: coached him hard. And I kind of ticked that with

2366
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 13: me for the rest of my life, just in the

2367
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 13: locker room and helping people out as much as I can,

2368
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 13: and also just trying to get the best out of

2369
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 13: players that you really see a lot.

2370
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 1: And I should ask you about two programs before I

2371
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 1: say goodbye. What did you learn at ball State? And

2372
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 1: then based on the foundation you build there, how did

2373
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:21,280
Speaker 1: you build on that when you went to Houston. Yeah?

2374
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 13: At ball State, I had a really good group of coaches.

2375
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 13: A lot of coach knew he was a pro coach.

2376
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:27,200
Speaker 13: He was Drew Bies's quarterback coach with the Saints, And

2377
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 13: I really just learned how to be a pros pro

2378
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:31,679
Speaker 13: and understand the game and not just understand my own job,

2379
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 13: and I understand what everyone's doing on the field so

2380
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:36,160
Speaker 13: that if someone else is messed up or can line

2381
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 13: up wrong, just be like an extra quarterback on the

2382
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 13: field and help them out and just be that source

2383
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 13: for them.

2384
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:43,000
Speaker 1: And that's important for a tight end, right because you

2385
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 1: have to do a run game. You have to know

2386
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Speaker 1: pass protection, got to you have to know everything is

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01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:49,639
Speaker 1: a tight end to really be effective at an offense. Right.

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01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:50,640
Speaker 8: Absolutely.

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01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:53,280
Speaker 13: I mean just understanding whole field concepts just helps a

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01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 13: lot and also mix foot ball a lot easier when

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01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:57,639
Speaker 13: you hear the play and you can visualize what everyone's

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01:30:57,680 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 13: doing on the.

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01:30:58,080 --> 01:30:59,320
Speaker 8: Play, it's just smooth.

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Speaker 1: Has that made it easier absorbing an NFL playbook as

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01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:04,760
Speaker 1: quickly as you have to do at an event like this, Yeah.

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01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:06,560
Speaker 13: Absolutely, because it's just a different verbiage. At that point, you

2397
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:08,519
Speaker 13: ran the play a million times. You know what everyone's doing.

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01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 13: It's just a different word now, Canda, good luck the

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Speaker 13: rest of the week.

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Speaker 1: Thanks being here.

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01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 8: I appreciate you.

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01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:13,800
Speaker 1: Thank you all right now, we're joined by Carver wils

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01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 1: Offense Alignment for Washington. We're one day of practice in.

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01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 1: I watched the tape from day one. I think you

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01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:21,680
Speaker 1: should be pretty happy. What did you think when you

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01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 1: looked at the tape?

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01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 13: You know, I wouldn't use the term pretty happy. I'm

2408
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 13: usually kind of hard on myself, but you.

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01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:29,519
Speaker 1: Know, hey, that's a good thing. By the way, Yeah,

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01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 1: it is.

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01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:32,960
Speaker 13: Kind of takes that to get to this level. But yeah,

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01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:35,720
Speaker 13: you know, first day of playing guard. Ever, I'm not

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01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 13: I'm not mad, I'll say that, but obviously a lot

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01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 13: of room to work, a lot of things to improve on.

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01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 8: But yeah, not mad about.

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01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 1: It, obviously, That was gonna be my next question because

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01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 1: that you played tackle at Kansas State, you played tackle Washington.

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01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 1: You never know what you're doing in practice and what

2419
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 1: you're doing what we don't see on TV. So never

2420
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 1: before played guard? Oh no, never rep.

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01:31:58,680 --> 01:31:59,880
Speaker 8: Nope, this is a first.

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01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,760
Speaker 13: And I'll give some reps at center this week as well,

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01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:04,240
Speaker 13: and those will be the first time I ever do

2424
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 13: that as well. So you know, you you you hear

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01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:09,559
Speaker 13: what teams say that they want to see, and that's

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01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 13: what you go do.

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01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:12,559
Speaker 1: Did you do it at all before you got here,

2428
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 1: like with your trainers or stuff like that, just to

2429
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 1: kind of get used to guys getting on you a

2430
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:17,640
Speaker 1: little bit quicker? Yeah, you know.

2431
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 13: You you train your stance, you train your mechanics, but

2432
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 13: never live reps. That's that's hard to emulate and hard

2433
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:25,719
Speaker 13: to actually give a pass rush move. So it's everything

2434
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 13: on bags, so you know, like actual pass rush and

2435
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:30,200
Speaker 13: actual like run blocking.

2436
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 8: Nope, this would be, uh be the first real reps.

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01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:35,599
Speaker 13: So to do it going against the best is it's

2438
01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 13: a tall ask and it's it's fun to do.

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01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 1: So now that you're in the fire and you've done it,

2440
01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 1: what's the difference between playing inside versus playing a tackle.

2441
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 13: Well, I think I'll be able to give a better,

2442
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 13: better answer after today. Sure, you know, yesterday everything's moving

2443
01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 13: a million miles an hour. You got a new playbook,

2444
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:52,799
Speaker 13: new teammates, and you then you had a new position

2445
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 13: you've never played before, so everything was like, you know,

2446
01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 13: just dancing in traffic. But after to day, I think

2447
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:00,559
Speaker 13: I'll be able to give a better answer. But you know,

2448
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 13: everything just happens faster and the guys are bigger, So

2449
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:04,160
Speaker 13: that's the main difference.

2450
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:07,400
Speaker 1: What were your goals? And maybe we already answered this question,

2451
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 1: what were your major goals getting to this event that

2452
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:11,360
Speaker 1: you wanted to show NFL decision maker scouts when they

2453
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 1: watch on the field.

2454
01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, obviously a lot of people, only they're

2455
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:17,920
Speaker 13: looking at me more inside. So my main goal is

2456
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 13: just to put the film out there, show that I

2457
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 13: have a good start and a good base and can

2458
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 13: greatly improve and end up being a starter and a

2459
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 13: role player for those guys.

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01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:27,240
Speaker 12: You know.

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01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 13: But it's nice to have the chance to allow people

2462
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:32,240
Speaker 13: not to draft on a hypothetical, of course, you know,

2463
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:33,759
Speaker 13: because that puts them in a heck of a pinch.

2464
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 13: So it's nice to try and eliminate some stress and

2465
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:39,240
Speaker 13: show that I can do it and make their lives easier.

2466
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 1: How's it been snapping in practice? And to just kind

2467
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 1: of get in the snap off and then trying to

2468
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 1: get that hand back up quick so you can actually

2469
01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:46,600
Speaker 1: you know, block the eye in front of you.

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01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, I haven't gotten the rep at it yet.

2471
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:51,919
Speaker 13: I probably will tomorrow.

2472
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 8: Not today.

2473
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:55,400
Speaker 13: Okay, we had an injury. So today I'm playing right

2474
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 13: garden left tackle, So I'm gonna be flipping playbooks, flipping positions.

2475
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:02,800
Speaker 13: But you know, snapping, Snapping certainly adds an element to it.

2476
01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 1: You're really good at this because now you probably to

2477
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:07,599
Speaker 1: my next question, how much experience do you have right

2478
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:11,519
Speaker 1: and left? And how comfortable are you switching quickly from

2479
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 1: one side to the other, considering how much different that

2480
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 1: makes your feet and your footwork and stuff like that.

2481
01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:18,559
Speaker 13: Right, So, I actually went into college at a left tackle.

2482
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:20,600
Speaker 13: Played it's a true freshman at left tackled, and I

2483
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 13: spent the next four seasons at right, and then obviously

2484
01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 13: went to Washington and was left tackle there. So as

2485
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 13: as far as like the base and the ability to

2486
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:30,800
Speaker 13: do it, it's there. And so that's that's a nice

2487
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 13: tool to have to be able to do it. Obviously,

2488
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:35,600
Speaker 13: I've never played right guard, but we're gonna figure it

2489
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:38,920
Speaker 13: out today. So I don't think it'll be too bad because,

2490
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 13: like I said, I've had a lot of practice at both.

2491
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:43,479
Speaker 1: What's the biggest adjustment is again the feed right, is

2492
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:45,559
Speaker 1: it getting your hands right? You know, working outside arm

2493
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. What's the biggest difference for me,

2494
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:49,519
Speaker 1: it's it's getting your feet right.

2495
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:51,800
Speaker 13: You know, guards have more of a wider base, so

2496
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 13: I'm really trying to learn how to play low at guard,

2497
01:34:56,280 --> 01:35:00,280
Speaker 13: which is which is different, it's unique. So the are

2498
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:02,680
Speaker 13: one thing. Hands come naturally, you learn how to throw

2499
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:05,760
Speaker 13: them and you just keep throwing them. But the feet

2500
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:08,080
Speaker 13: and the base, that's that's my main focus right now.

2501
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:10,760
Speaker 1: And especially I imagine with the base, you get some

2502
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 1: of these shorter defensive tackles, so they're not only heavier,

2503
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 1: they're shorter, so it's easier for them to get your

2504
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:17,880
Speaker 1: taller guy, easier for them to get under your pads, right,

2505
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:19,599
Speaker 1: So making sure you kind of keep that leverage as

2506
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 1: if you a big challenge too. I would imagine.

2507
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:23,879
Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, most guys look at short, deep tackles

2508
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:26,320
Speaker 13: and they're like, oh, that guy's undersized. I like to

2509
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:29,240
Speaker 13: use the term natural leverage. Yeah, absolutely, they were born

2510
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:34,439
Speaker 13: with natural leverage and that kind of sucks sometimes, but yeah,

2511
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:37,000
Speaker 13: you know, you adapt in thejust and you know you

2512
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:39,559
Speaker 13: have to play every player different, but you just got

2513
01:35:39,560 --> 01:35:40,120
Speaker 13: to go do your thing.

2514
01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 1: And then, finally, what are you trying to get across

2515
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:43,680
Speaker 1: to these teams and these guys when you meet with

2516
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:45,479
Speaker 1: them about you as a guy, what you bring to

2517
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 1: the locker room, and what kind of teammate you would

2518
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:49,439
Speaker 1: be in, even what you would add to whatever community

2519
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 1: you join in whatever city you wind up in the NFL.

2520
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:54,559
Speaker 13: Right, absolutely, you know, you're just trying to show that

2521
01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:57,599
Speaker 13: you're not going to step into their franchise and their

2522
01:35:57,640 --> 01:35:59,559
Speaker 13: brand and ruin it. Right, You're going to step into

2523
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:02,160
Speaker 13: a locker room and show how you can improve the

2524
01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:04,720
Speaker 13: brand and improve the locker room. Seeing I'm just trying

2525
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:06,040
Speaker 13: to show them a good team, ma, and I care

2526
01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:09,200
Speaker 13: a lot. You know, sometimes when you care a lot,

2527
01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 13: you can come off the wrong way. So I've had

2528
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:15,120
Speaker 13: to answer some questions about that, But no, I care

2529
01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:17,280
Speaker 13: a lot. I care a lot about seeing my teammates

2530
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:18,920
Speaker 13: do their best. Care a lot about my team seeing

2531
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 13: themselves do the best. So that's really just what I'm

2532
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 13: trying to get across.

2533
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:23,759
Speaker 1: And then good luck this week. It was nice to getting

2534
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:26,599
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Speaker 1: I am John Schmeilk. Ready to come home. I know

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Speaker 1: ready to be home. We'll see us soon. Enjoy a weekend, everybody.

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