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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Jeremy Fowler, ESPN senior NFL national reporter joining us from

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Speaker 2: the owners meeting. All right, Jeremy, where are we the

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Speaker 2: countdown for the vote for the Tush Push? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Dan, great to be with you, and you are a

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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame in my book, you should not let

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Speaker 3: last night's results affect anything at all. Certainly, but don't.

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Speaker 2: You contribute to NFL Live, the show that won the

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Speaker 2: Sports Semmy? Do you get a sports Emmy?

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Speaker 3: I think I actually do from what I am the show.

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Speaker 2: Should you have won? Should NFL Live? Should that had won?

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Speaker 2: Last night? Over us?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: It's I think it's a tremendous show. Uh, Laura red Legend,

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Speaker 3: dear l, a tremendous job. I love that show.

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 3: I'm a very very small part of it. However. Okay,

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Speaker 3: your Hall of Fame careers be the morale boost that

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Speaker 3: you need this morning.

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, Okay, sorry to do that too.

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Speaker 2: That's all I wanted to talk to you about, Jeremy.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I don't care about the Toush Push and

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Speaker 2: we're done. Okay, what's the timeframe here on the.

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Speaker 3: Vote any minute then with this, so that the packers

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Speaker 3: their proposals in owners my understanding, we're voting like right

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Speaker 3: down the hall as we speak. You know, they're meeting

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Speaker 3: on a Jason Kelcey walked through the hallways with Eagles

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Speaker 3: owner Jeffrey Leurry a little while ago, so he's in

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Speaker 3: the meeting. Maybe he can sway some votes, maybe he

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Speaker 3: can help the Eagles here there. Philly is clearly all

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Speaker 3: hands on deck to try to sway some people. So

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Speaker 3: what was told to me from some teams is that

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Speaker 3: there is a momentum for this to change and for

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Speaker 3: the Tush push to be banned. They only got sixteen

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Speaker 3: votes in March, so they need three Forest majority vote

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Speaker 3: which is twenty four votes to get this push through

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Speaker 3: and then you know they'll go from there. So it

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Speaker 3: seems to be momentum. I think it will be close,

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Speaker 3: and it could be really I'm checking my phone right

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Speaker 3: now to see what goes down here, but it is

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Speaker 3: expected early this morning.

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Speaker 2: What kind of line language do you think is going

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Speaker 2: to be in or changed with this. Let's say they

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Speaker 2: get rid of it, it is there going to be

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Speaker 2: language that's put in their rule book.

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Speaker 3: So the language right now is from the Packers proposal

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Speaker 3: that was tweaked this week to make it broader, because

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Speaker 3: I think the issue that teams had back in March

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Speaker 3: was like it was too specific to one team, right

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Speaker 3: they felt that it was specific to the Eagles. They

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Speaker 3: wanted to tailor that to just be back to it

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Speaker 3: with the way it was in the early two thousands,

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Speaker 3: which is you can't push or pull any ball carrier

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Speaker 3: at all at any time, or it's a ten yard penalty.

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Speaker 3: So I think that sort of what's the appetite a

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Speaker 3: little bit of some of the teams that were on

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Speaker 3: the fence, you know, they're just there are a lot

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Speaker 3: of teams that want to get that quote rugby style

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Speaker 3: play out of there. What's still unclear Dan is what

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Speaker 3: the data is on injury prevention here, Like, if there

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Speaker 3: really is an issue with this play that causes more

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Speaker 3: injury risk than others, then that's great, let's see the data.

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Speaker 3: But right now, I don't know that anybody has seen that.

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Speaker 3: Health and safety is talked to the league. So maybe

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Speaker 3: today we'll get some sort of clarity on why that's

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Speaker 3: important or if this is more just under the guise

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Speaker 3: league believe that might be the case.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there, and they could probably frame this

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Speaker 2: and say we're being proactive. We don't have negative data

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Speaker 2: or injury data. We want to be proactive. I understand

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Speaker 2: how they can spin this, but like aesthetically, it's not pleasing.

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Speaker 2: The NFL is in an entertainment business and it's a

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Speaker 2: predictable play. It's like the extra point, like we don't

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Speaker 2: but I think that's really what's happening behind the scenes.

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Speaker 2: That's my gut feeling.

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Speaker 3: Well, and the Eagles are a major brand in the

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Speaker 3: evokes a lot of emotion because from a football standpoint,

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Speaker 3: there's still our teams and coaches and gereal managers in

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Speaker 3: can't stop. So that is really a core issue here

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Speaker 3: that really won't go away. So you're right, it's a

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Speaker 3: matter of taste in a lot of ways. And you know,

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Speaker 3: is injury prevention really a thing? You know, some people

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Speaker 3: so we have to go by what they want and

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Speaker 3: the fact that, yes, it is an entertainment industry. But

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Speaker 3: I think part of the equation too, is that a

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Speaker 3: lot of teams feel like the Eagles would still get

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Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts. In that offensive line, they get it anyways.

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Speaker 3: So I don't think the Eagles would be all that

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Speaker 3: affected by this, to be honest, on a football standpoint.

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Speaker 2: I don't either. I said that, I've been saying that

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Speaker 2: with that offensive line, with that quarterback, there's no quarterback

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Speaker 2: like him. It's a low target. It's not like Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: It's a low target for a guy who squats six

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Speaker 2: to be the team that would put its name behind

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Speaker 2: this to get this play a band. So that's the

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Speaker 2: NFL saying to the Packers, Hey, I mean that tells

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Speaker 2: you everything you need to know. The NFL does not

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Speaker 3: Well, it would be naive to think that Roger Goodell's

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Speaker 3: not involved in the decision making here. You know, you

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Speaker 3: have a couple of different tenants. You have the Competition Committee,

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Speaker 3: recommended that the Tush push should be out. You have

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Speaker 3: the health and safety component, and then you have Goodell,

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Speaker 3: he can be involved in those discussions. So typically what

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Speaker 3: the league wants, the league gets the Philly pushing back here.

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Speaker 3: You know that like Nick Sirianni has a pretty big

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Speaker 3: coaching tree now with Shane Steichen in Indianapolis, two or

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Speaker 3: three others that are head coaches whose teams benefited from

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Speaker 3: So but that's only three or four teams. Do you

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Speaker 2: Jeremy Fowler, who will win a Sports Emmy because NFL

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Speaker 2: Live won a Sports Emmy last night, joining us from

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Speaker 2: the NFL Owners meeting.

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Speaker 3: You can't have mine, We'll switch the name on be fine.

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Speaker 2: What else should we be aware of that could happen today?

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Speaker 3: So the interesting news this morning, Dan was that the

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Speaker 3: playoff reseating proposal from the Detroit Lions, which they were proposing, Hey, look,

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Speaker 3: if you have a better record as a wildcard team

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Speaker 3: than a division winner, you should jump them in the

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Speaker 3: seatings that has been off the table. That has been

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Speaker 3: now revoked at least for this term. But it was

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Speaker 3: a little bit of a surprise. It didn't have much legs,

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Speaker 3: They are not doing that now. So it's going to

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Speaker 3: be the same playoff format this season. But there is

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Speaker 3: acknowledgement here that, like if it goes to eighteen games

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Speaker 3: eventually or in future years, they're gonna have to receive

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Speaker 3: this thing. They're gonna have to work it out. They

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Speaker 3: don't really want situations where teams have meetingless games in

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Speaker 3: You know, they want these games to matter, even though

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Speaker 3: I think some fans love second and third stringers playing

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Speaker 3: Like I think there's an element of that, but for

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Speaker 3: the most part of the league doesn't want that. They want

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Speaker 3: good games. So I do think they're gonna switch that eventually.

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Speaker 3: It just won't happen this week. And then you got

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Speaker 3: some onside kick news. There's some stuff about you know,

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Speaker 3: not just the fourth quarter when you're down, if you're

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Speaker 3: from behind. You can do it in the first quarter

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Speaker 3: if you want. And they're gonna move the kickoff point

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Speaker 4: But you have to.

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Speaker 2: Declare that we're, hey, we're going to have an on

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Speaker 2: side kick. You have to tell Breck right, Oh my god, correct, Okay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's it's they're they're hoping for a little

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Speaker 2: Anything I need to know about Aaron Rodgers today, So

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Speaker 3: Checked on that this week. You know, I kind of

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Speaker 3: get the same lines from people in Pittsburgh, which is, hey,

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Speaker 3: we remain optimistic, we remain in contact with Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: waiting on him. You know, I go back to like,

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Speaker 3: this is his first Foray and the free agency in

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Speaker 3: a twenty year career that was highly unpredictable. So this

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Speaker 3: know OTA's is in a little under three weeks. For

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Speaker 3: certainly hope that by then he's in the fold. I

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Speaker 3: don't think they've changed their plan. They're waiting on him.

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Speaker 3: They know he's had some stuff in his inner circle

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Speaker 3: the Vikings would be an ideal scenario. One of the

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Speaker 3: best play callers in the league and Kevin O'Connell nine

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Speaker 3: some element of that. But I, you know, check in

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Speaker 3: forward with Jji McCarthy. So he really has no other

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Speaker 2: Did he get married?

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Speaker 3: I do not know that. I haven't heard that. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I haven't heard that, so you know, it could be

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Speaker 3: just something the matter with his family, But yeah, I

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Speaker 2: I saw him wearing a ring, and then there was

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Speaker 2: speculation did he get married? And maybe it's a mood ring,

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Speaker 2: which would be appropriate for Aaron, like what's the mood

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Speaker 2: that you're in. But thanks for joining us, and congratulations

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Speaker 2: on winning the Sports Emmy last night.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Dan, I appreciate it. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: That's Jeremy Fallon. He's a big time NFL reporter for

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Speaker 2: NFL Live at the Mothership. Yes, I like that.

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Speaker 5: We didn't even know that he won a sports Evy

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Speaker 2: But it's not a win or lose. We celebrate T shirt,

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Speaker 2: all right, final hour. Wayne Gretzky will join us. He

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Speaker 2: Like you'd have all these trophies, but none of them

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Speaker 2: Eight seven to seven three DP show email address DP

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Speaker 10: Todd one of the cast members of the very popular

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Speaker 10: Successful in Emmy winning NFL Live on ESPN, which kept

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Speaker 9: Daily Mister One, Dan.

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Speaker 2: Here, Hey, Dan, I worry.

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Speaker 9: I'm doing very well. How are you good, sir?

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Speaker 2: Doing crampy? Yeah?

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Speaker 9: I feel very poorly right now?

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Speaker 9: I do well?

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Speaker 2: Do you think we deserved it?

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Speaker 9: I think we deserved it as well. But you're a

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Speaker 9: That was probably very deserting.

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Speaker 2: You know what it's like when you throw a pick

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Speaker 9: Yeah? I think that you guys, you know there's a

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Speaker 2: So here we are, well in all honesty, sincerity. Congratulations. Danilovsky,

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Speaker 2: ESPN analysts, part of NFL Live, former NFL quarterback. Let's

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Speaker 2: say five years let's say ten years ago, I told you,

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Speaker 2: you know what, You're going to be part of a

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Speaker 9: Here? Out of your mind? There's no shot I won't

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Speaker 2: Because I look at you and I keep thinking, you're

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Speaker 9: I don't think I've given it up. I think I

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Speaker 9: I don't have the desire to uproot that right now,

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Speaker 9: You know. Unfortunate some people have to do that because

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Speaker 9: Like I think this process of going through being nominated

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Speaker 9: it kind of I don't want to say re energize

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Speaker 4: I was.

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Speaker 9: Everyone's like, it's an honor to be nominated. I get that,

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Speaker 9: you know, Like, but I wanted to win that. I

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Speaker 9: My wife. I was like, I want to go. I

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Speaker 9: I really do.

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 9: Uh It's it's been really cool to be a part

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Speaker 2: Right now, I'm talking to Dan Orlovsky of the Mothership

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Speaker 2: the uh Push Push. We're waiting supposed to be voted

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it sounds like it's gonna get you know, it's

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Speaker 9: has put out there, I believe language wise that no

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Speaker 9: totally changing offensive football then, and this is about way

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Speaker 9: more than just quarterback sneak. My mind goes to all

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Speaker 9: from that point forward to push or pull. But the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I still think Philadelphia is going to be extremely

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Speaker 2: a lobbyist here at the owner's meetings. What could he

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Speaker 2: possibly be saying to these other owners that are going

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Speaker 2: to make them rethink their vote.

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Speaker 9: I would imagine there's a little bit of the health

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Speaker 9: part of it, you know, in him speaking on his

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Speaker 9: own behalf or experience, because there's people who say there's

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Speaker 9: health concerns or injury concerns, and so him sharing that,

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Speaker 9: I think him sharing the unique ability to you know,

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Speaker 9: the way that they coach it, the way that their

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Speaker 9: interior offensive line does it to your point, how Jalen

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Speaker 9: executes it, and how you know it's not a cheap

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Speaker 9: play for them, but more is something that they've really

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Speaker 9: perfected because of the way they coach and the people

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Speaker 9: that they have. I'm sure it's an angle to try

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Speaker 9: to educate the owners, maybe differently than Oh, they're the

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Speaker 9: only team that does this and it's unfair.

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Speaker 2: How excited are you about the NFL being in the

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Speaker 2: Olympics with flag football? Does this?

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Speaker 9: I think it's really cool. I really do. I think

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Speaker 9: it's very cool. My biggest takeaway is how smart the

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Speaker 9: NFL is. It's brilliant. You know, if you listen to

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Speaker 9: Commissioner Goodell and his words, he was saying, you know,

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Speaker 9: this opens us up even more to men and women,

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Speaker 9: all ages, all over the world. And so now you're

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Speaker 9: taking the game of football that many of US Americans

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Speaker 9: know and you're bringing a version of it to all

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Speaker 9: parts of the world that maybe don't know a ton

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Speaker 9: about it and maybe can feel that, oh, I could

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Speaker 9: play football like Dan. I've always thought the protection of

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Speaker 9: the quarterback rule that changed years and years and years

464
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Speaker 9: ago was about kids. It wasn't about you know, Eli manning.

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Speaker 9: It was about moms and dads letting their eight or

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Speaker 9: ten year old son watch the game, because the eight

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Speaker 9: and ten year old son who falls in love with

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Speaker 9: football is going to be the thirty to forty year

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Speaker 9: old who watches football, you know. And so it's a

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Speaker 9: little bit of that. This is brilliant business, you know,

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Speaker 9: stuff from the NFL, and it's you know these I said,

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Speaker 9: this just an NFL live. These players in the NFL.

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Speaker 9: You climbed the highest mountain that you think you can climb.

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Speaker 9: When it comes to your profession, you accomplish it. You

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Speaker 9: can't go any further. And so now this gives them

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Speaker 9: another mountain to climb, another challenge to go accomplish. How

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Speaker 9: rare it would be to be a person that is

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Speaker 9: an NFL professional player, an MVP, a World champion, and

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Speaker 9: then an Olympic champion. That's I think it's very cool.

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Speaker 2: Okay, But how many players will play for Team USA

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Speaker 2: who are NFL players, the team that will play represent

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Speaker 2: US if we're trying to win a gold medal, how

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Speaker 2: many players will get that opportunity?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it seems probably half a dozen, you know, maybe

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Speaker 9: maybe ten. You know, by my understanding, you got to

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Speaker 9: try out. So how many guys are going to be

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Speaker 9: willing to just go try out? Because, let's be honest,

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Speaker 9: there's an ego element to these guys as well. We

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Speaker 9: all believe that we're the best and whatnot. Two you

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Speaker 9: can only have one player per NFL team, per country,

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Speaker 9: I believe. So that means that Brian Branch and Jamier Gibbs,

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Speaker 9: both Lions, cannot play for the United States. Okay, you know,

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Speaker 9: so that limits your pool just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Okay, are you going to have thirty two players competing

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Speaker 2: for ten roster spots on Team USA? Like football? Is

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Speaker 2: that how this plays out?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 9: I don't think so. I mean, how many quarterbacks are

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Speaker 9: actually going to go try and do it? You know?

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Speaker 9: How many are receivers you know will be you know,

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Speaker 9: willing to do it. I'm sure there are going to

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Speaker 9: be some organizations that are a little bit cautious on it.

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Speaker 9: I know they all voted in favor of it. We'll

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Speaker 9: see how they feel about it in three years when

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Speaker 9: it's their Super Bowl window and it's their star receiver

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Speaker 9: that they're concerned about and whatnot. So I don't know

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Speaker 9: if it'd be thirty two, but I do think that

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Speaker 9: there's going to be a decent amount of guys at

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Speaker 9: least initially interested in that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Can I submit this for next year's Sports Emmy

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Speaker 2: having you on it, having one and agreeing that we

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Speaker 2: deserve to win the Sports Emmy?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you could submit it. Yeah, you could submit it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I'm at a round of applause. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Should be a very interesting NFL Live episode later today

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Speaker 2: for you, Dan.

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Speaker 9: Oh, I'm actually not on today.

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Speaker 2: Good for you.

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Speaker 9: I'm not on today. I'm not. My sons have a

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Speaker 9: big lacrosse last regular season lacrosse game tonight, so I

521
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Speaker 9: don't want to miss that.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and congrats again.

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Speaker 9: Thank you, sir. I appreciate you. Your legend. You know that,

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Speaker 9: so thank you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. That's dan Or Latsky. Yeah. I've taken care

526
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Speaker 2: of my part of this. I'm the legend. It's the

527
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Speaker 2: other part that's the problem. I'm a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 2: The show is in the Hall of very good. You

529
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Speaker 2: know what, Maybe I go work for NFL like that.

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Speaker 6: Seriously, you know it is true because even when the

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Speaker 6: Radio Hall of Fame came calling, they inducted you and

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Speaker 6: not the show like the Breakfast Club is in the

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Speaker 6: Tom and TJ Show, The Jimmy and Skippy Show, Sally

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Speaker 6: and the Commander's Show.

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Speaker 2: Dan Patrick, Yeah, you are the Hall of Famer. Bob

536
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Speaker 2: and Tom are getting in, Not Dan and the Dantes. Yes, Marvin,

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Speaker 2: but you're going to the Hall of Fame for your influence,

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Speaker 2: very much like Vince Carter. I'm the Vince Carter of

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Speaker 2: sports radio.

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Speaker 6: So Pat McAfee and their show wins the radio on

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Speaker 6: sports are on TV, Emmy, Dan Levatard, No, they're not.

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Speaker 2: Gonna win one. I'm not without Stu Gotz. Not all right,

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Speaker 2: all right, let me take a break. Let's clean this up.

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Speaker 2: Wayne Gretzky is gonna join us the great one, Oh dear,

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Speaker 2: Let's take a break. We're back after this.

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Speaker 2: Part of Turner's sports coverage of the Stanley Cup Final.

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Speaker 2: He'll be in attendance for all the games. Wayna, good

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Speaker 2: to see you again. How you feeling.

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Speaker 11: I feel older, but it's great to see you. You know,

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Speaker 11: when you get your two youngest kids graduating college the

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Speaker 11: same week, you know you're getting old. So Thursday NYU,

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Speaker 11: Friday SMU, and onto the Stanley Cup semis and the finals.

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Speaker 2: Now, could you give me a shift on the ice?

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Speaker 11: No, I'll tell you what happened about the age of

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Speaker 11: fifty seven. I was playing in a charity game and

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Speaker 11: I came back and I threw my bag down the

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Speaker 11: hotel room and I said to my wife, that's the

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Speaker 11: last time I'm ever going to skate. And she goes,

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Speaker 11: what do you mean. I said, I was scared to death.

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Speaker 11: I was going to fall and hurt myself. And you

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Speaker 11: can't play this game with fear, right, So it was

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Speaker 11: time for me to officially retire, even though I retired

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Speaker 11: at the age of thirty nine. But I skate every

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Speaker 11: now and then my son's hockey schools and get on

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Speaker 11: the ice. But I don't play in charity games anymore.

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Speaker 11: I don't trust myself out there.

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Speaker 2: But that's what makes what yarm or younger or Gordi,

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Speaker 2: how did listen?

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Speaker 11: It's amazing Gordi how got twenty goals in the NHL

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Speaker 11: at the age of fifty.

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Speaker 4: Think about that. Amo Yager.

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Speaker 9: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: He's got to be fifty eight. I don't even know

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Speaker 4: how old he is.

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Speaker 11: And he's still playing games, although he told me one

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Speaker 11: day he said, I only play the home game is

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Speaker 11: now though I said, well arrested. And Chris Jellio has

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Speaker 11: played the fifty years old and the way he played,

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Speaker 11: he was a maniac at the age of twenty and

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Speaker 11: the age of fifty. So I have great admiration for

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Speaker 11: older players, older athletes who have excelled, Guys like Tom Brady,

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Speaker 11: guys like Lebron. It's pretty remarkable that you can go

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Speaker 11: on at that age because you know, Dan, you've been

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Speaker 11: around sports a long time. The athletes are better today.

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Speaker 11: They're bigger, they're stronger, the coaching is better. And that's

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Speaker 11: not a knock to past. That's just progression. Right twenty

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Speaker 11: years from now, it's going to be better today. It's different.

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Speaker 11: Every sport is different than it used to be. But

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Speaker 11: the athletes I think are better today.

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Speaker 2: Did you lift weights?

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Speaker 11: Brad Hall had the greatest line of all. Somebody said

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Speaker 11: to him, you lift weights, and he said, I've never

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Speaker 11: seen a bar bell score, but I've seen a lot

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Speaker 11: of people. We used to do a training camp. We

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Speaker 11: would come in and they'd have these kids from the

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Speaker 11: university that would do her You know, I guess they

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Speaker 11: were seeing what kind of shape you're in.

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Speaker 4: So they had this.

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Speaker 11: You had the bench press one hundred ninety five pounds,

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Speaker 11: and I would just look at the bar and I'd

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Speaker 11: say to the kid, just mark me down for one.

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Speaker 11: I didn't even try to lift it. I said how

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Speaker 11: many sit ups did I do last year? He said seven?

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Speaker 11: I said mark me down for so say they would

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Speaker 11: think I was getting better, But listen, I did eight

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Speaker 11: push ups in training camp and scored ninety two goals.

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Speaker 11: I did one hundred and twenty five sit ups my

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Speaker 11: last year of training camp, I got nine goals. There's

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Speaker 11: no correlation.

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Speaker 2: When did you realize that Ovechkin could get your goalscoring

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Speaker 2: record well?

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Speaker 11: When he scored on his back against us. When I

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Speaker 11: was coaching in Phoenix in about two thousand and seven,

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Speaker 11: I came in the locker room and I think it

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Speaker 11: was Rick Talcket said, the writing's on the wall.

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Speaker 4: This guy's going to be chasing you down. No we

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Speaker 4: knew he was.

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Speaker 11: Listen, he's a I said this. There's only three guys, him,

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Speaker 11: Messe and Gordi Howe that could play with the finesse,

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Speaker 11: the goal scoring touch and the physical part of the game.

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Speaker 11: Those three guys did that. Now, maybe Mark had a

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Speaker 11: little bit more creativity with passing, but scoring. Mark scored

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Speaker 11: big goals all the time. Gordy House scored big goals.

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Speaker 11: But if they weren't scoring, they'd run through you. And

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Speaker 11: that's what the three guys have in common.

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Speaker 2: But explain to us that it's the hardest thing to do,

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Speaker 2: aside from hitting a baseball. But you're on skates with

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Speaker 2: a stick and guys are trying to beat the hell

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Speaker 2: out of you when you have the puck on your stick, Like,

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Speaker 2: what were you looking for?

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Speaker 11: Well, people always say, how did you score that goal?

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Speaker 11: Did you see that open spot? Did you scout the goalie?

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Speaker 11: You know, maybe where his tendencies were and what was

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Speaker 11: his weakness. The game is so fast to me, I

643
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Speaker 11: was just shooting, trying to get an open spot, trying

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Speaker 11: to hit the net. It was my biggest pet peeve

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Speaker 11: in the world. When you go all the way down

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Speaker 11: the ice and the guy would shoot the puck and

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Speaker 11: miss the net. And if you look at Mike Bossi

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Speaker 11: and Brett Hall and Vetchkin and Ery Curry, Mario, they

649
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Speaker 11: didn't miss the net. They hit the net. You can't

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Speaker 11: score if you don't hit the net. It's common sense, right,

651
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 11: game's too fast.

652
00:32:58,640 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 4: Now.

653
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 11: In practice, you out there and you put up targets

654
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 11: and you work on things like that. But during the game,

655
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 11: the game's too fast. You're just trying to get it

656
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 11: to the net.

657
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: Do you hold a grudge against anybody?

658
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 4: Do I?

659
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? From your playing days.

660
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 4: No.

661
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 11: As a matter of fact, the exact opposite. I have

662
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 11: so much more respect for the players I played with

663
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 11: and against today.

664
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 4: Even back then now.

665
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 11: Listen, there was a lot of guys who didn't like

666
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 11: because they're trying to win and I was trying to win.

667
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 11: But today, even the guy that played me the hardest,

668
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 11: the guy like Dennis Potvan, if he called me needed

669
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 11: a favor, I would try to drop everything and try

670
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 11: to help him.

671
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 4: You know, we become one.

672
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 11: There's one common thing that we all have as professional athletes.

673
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 11: One day we're going to be alumni. We're all going

674
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 11: to be retired, right, So I got a great deal

675
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 11: of respect. Now there's a lot of guys that probably

676
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 11: hated me when they played against me, and there's a

677
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 11: lot of guys I didn't like. But when it's all

678
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 11: said and done, it's like the other night when you

679
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 11: saw Dallas, Amy Benn and Scheifeley battled for six games

680
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 11: like real men. They were physical, hard played hard, and

681
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 11: that's what makes our game so great. The emotions that

682
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 11: they showed after the game and the sportsmanship and the

683
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 11: respect they had for each other was truly remarkable. I

684
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 11: happened to be at the game, and I thought it

685
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 11: was just amazing.

686
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 2: Talking to Wayne Gretzky, the Hall of Famer, does your

687
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 2: wife ever call you the great one?

688
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 4: No? Every time that she probably says, do you think?

689
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 11: Why do you think you're the great one? I will

690
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 11: tell you I was having dinner with Charles Berkley one

691
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 11: night in Phoenix and my son and I and we're

692
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 11: sitting there and his wife said, great one, will you

693
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 11: pass me in the salt? And I went to grab

694
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 11: the salt and his hand was already there, and he said,

695
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 11: in this house, they call me the great one. My

696
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 11: son was fifteen then he thought it was the greatest

697
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 11: thing in the world.

698
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: Where are all your trophies?

699
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 11: I have one trophy here that rocket Richard gave me,

700
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 11: the only hockey trophy. I have one of the trophies

701
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 11: I'm most proud of. I have here Sports Illustrated Sportsman

702
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 11: in the year. That's the only two I have here.

703
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 11: The rest are at the Hockey Hall of Fame or

704
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 11: in the basement of my since past parents' house that

705
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 11: my nephew lives in, and my trophies are still there.

706
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: How important were trophies to you, aside from the Stanley Cup?

707
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, Glenn say there had a theory in

708
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 11: training camp. I want to win the scoring race. I

709
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 11: want to win the best defenseman. I want a goalie

710
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 11: to be the best goalie. I want to have the MVP.

711
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 11: But with all that, I want the Stanley Cup.

712
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 4: So, yeah, it was.

713
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 11: He put it out there. He didn't hide from it

714
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 11: at all.

715
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 2: The difference between playoff hockey and regular season hockey, and

716
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: it's not, you know, that much different than other sports.

717
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: You know, maybe the NFL was still in each game

718
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: because there's only seventeen games. But what is it about

719
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 2: I'll playoff hockey that we you know, it's just different.

720
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: It's different than any other sport.

721
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 4: It really is.

722
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 11: Although I'm a basketball fan, I think the basketball has

723
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 11: been phenomenal this year the playoffs, and you can tell

724
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 11: those guys have gone to another level. Our game has

725
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 11: just always been that way, and I think one of

726
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 11: the things that happens is it's so hard to referee

727
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 11: our sport so fast, and our referees do a great job.

728
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 11: And when get in the playoffs and referees tullb both

729
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 11: teams look, you can play hard and you play physical,

730
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 11: just don't be stupid. We don't want to be the

731
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 11: difference in the hockey game. And so the game becomes

732
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 11: extremely physical and very fast, and it's hard to It's

733
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 11: hard to win in the National Hockey League. And I

734
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 11: thought Carolina played a really good hockey game last night. Unfortunately,

735
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 11: they're playing maybe the best team in the last three

736
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 11: years and they get beat And now you play all

737
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 11: year to get home i sadvantage and you lose it

738
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 11: in one night. And so I expect and anticipate Burns

739
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 11: and company will come out flying tomorrow night.

740
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're like Peyton Manning when you're

741
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 2: watching Peyton gets upset, you know, when he's watching bad football,

742
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: or somebody does. I don't know. How are you similar

743
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: to Peyton Manning when you're watching hockey and you're like,

744
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 2: why are they doing something? Or you get you know, visibly,

745
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: you know, upset with what you're seeing.

746
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 11: No, not at all. I don't critique it. If anything

747
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 11: on the opposite, I just sit and enjoy it. I

748
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 11: really appreciate good plays. I really appreciate good coaching. And

749
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 11: you can see the four teams are in the finals.

750
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 11: They all have good coaching and that's part of the

751
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 11: reason they're there. And then they have the skill and

752
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 11: the talent to go with that. So now I know

753
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 11: how hard these kids work. And I never critique.

754
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 4: Noom.

755
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 2: The honest place where you were recognized is where.

756
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, I don't know, maybe Rome, Italy.

757
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 11: You know, it's amazing. I retired twenty five years ago.

758
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 11: I think I get recognized more now than I did

759
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 11: in nineteen ninety nine. But people are nice. It doesn't

760
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 11: even phaze me. Know, people are always nice. Everybody has

761
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 11: their opinions. Who the best player was, who the best

762
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 11: teams were? We all do that's what makes sports great

763
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 11: and all. We don't have the right answer. It's your opinion,

764
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 11: as simple as that.

765
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: But Michael Jordan thinks he's the greatest basketball player of

766
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 2: all time.

767
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was the greatest athlete I think of all time.

768
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 2: Do you think you're the greatest hockey player of all time?

769
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 4: No, No, not at all.

770
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 11: I always said that Gordy Howe and Bobby Orr were

771
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 11: the two greatest hockey players that ever lived.

772
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 4: I made my life because of those two guys.

773
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 11: They took the NHL to another level and gave me

774
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 11: an opportunity. No, I would never say that, and I

775
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 11: mean that sincerely. I tell my kids that i'd say

776
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 11: it publicly. I have too much respect for both those

777
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 11: players that I would think that I was better than

778
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 11: they were.

779
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: But if I said, I can wipe away everything you

780
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 2: did in hockey. But you would have been a Hall

781
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 2: of Fame baseball player for the Tigers, and.

782
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 11: I would have told you I was the greatest baseball

783
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 11: player ever.

784
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 4: I can bragging about my baseball.

785
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 2: But you told me years ago that you that really

786
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 2: was that was a goal like you loved the Detroit Tigers.

787
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 11: Oh, I really did. I grew up an Ernie Harwell fan.

788
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 11: Mickey Lolich. One of the great days of my life.

789
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 11: I watched Mickey lowlts pitch when I was thirteen, and

790
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 11: I wrote it in my book. We're playing in Detroit

791
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 11: one day and trainer came in and said, there's a

792
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 11: guy out here that wants to sign his book. Can

793
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 11: I bring him in? I said, sure, it was Mickey

794
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 11: Lolich because I wrote the story in the book, and

795
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 11: so I got a chance to meet him and get

796
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 11: a picture taken with him. And then through those years,

797
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 11: you know, Mark the Berg, Fidrich came and you know,

798
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 11: and then when Sparky Anderson went to Detroit and they

799
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 11: won the World Series. So I grew up a huge

800
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 11: Tigers fan. Now I love the Blue Jays, but they

801
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 11: weren't there till seventy six, so I'd been fifteen years

802
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 11: in baseball by the time the Jays were sort of founded.

803
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 2: Were you starstruck first time you met Jordan?

804
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think everybody is. Like I said to me,

805
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 11: the two greatest athletes ever were Michael Jordan Muhammad Ali,

806
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 11: and I got the chance to be friends with both

807
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 11: of them.

808
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 4: I got a chance to spend a lot of time

809
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 4: with Muhammad Ali.

810
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 11: I went to New York in nineteen seventy eight when

811
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 11: I signed the WHA and I was with Gordi Howe

812
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 11: and Bobby Hall and I was his kid, just starstruck, right,

813
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 11: And We're in the Plaza Hotels, the first time I'd

814
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 11: ever been to New York and there I was standing there,

815
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 11: Muhammad La came over to shake Gordy house hand and

816
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 11: I almost.

817
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 4: Fell over like that.

818
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 11: And then five minutes later, Pat Boone came over to

819
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 11: say lo to Gordi Howe, and I said, is there

820
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 11: anybody this guy doesn't know? So he fascinated me from

821
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,439
Speaker 11: the very first time I ever met him.

822
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they have to be starstruck when they meet

823
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 2: you too.

824
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 11: Oh, I don't think so, I hope not, because I'm

825
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 11: like you, I'm a normal guy.

826
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: Well you are. You're so approachable, you know, And I

827
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: liken you to kind of Joe Montana. If people's see you,

828
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: they don't realize that guy did what he did in

829
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 2: his sport, Like you see Montana looks like he's a kicker.

830
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 2: You don't think that's one of the greatest quarterbacks of

831
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: all time, Like you're disarming because you're very generous to

832
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: people and very gracious.

833
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 11: Yeah, people are nice and listening. I got everything in

834
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 11: my life because of hockey and because of fans. But

835
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 11: I remember our sons played together, and I used to

836
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 11: love the fact that Joe was there because we go

837
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 11: to the high school football games and nobody even cared

838
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 11: that I was. Everybody was bothering and getting pictures with Joe.

839
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 11: He made my life in high school that much easier.

840
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: But that's I mean, it's been a pretty amazing career.

841
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 2: But like any goals that what's left here for you? Oh?

842
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 11: I don't know right now, I'm proud of five grand

843
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 11: or five grandchildren and two more on the way, and

844
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 11: you know, families for me now. And you know, I

845
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 11: did my hockey thing and I loved every minute of it.

846
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 11: Now I'm a fan. I enjoy being on TNT. They're

847
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 11: wonderful people and the people we work with. And Liam

848
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 11: is unbelievable. He's our quarterback and you know, he does

849
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 11: all the legwork and all the heavy lifting and I

850
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 11: just got to sit there and talk hockey. How nice

851
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 11: is that you get to sit there and I don't

852
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 11: have to worry about getting hit or run or knocked

853
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 11: over the head.

854
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,479
Speaker 4: I can just sit there and have fun.

855
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 2: But you're healthy, very healthy, okay.

856
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 11: Although like everyone else, you know, I had some pre

857
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 11: cancerous things taking off my face in the last few weeks, but.

858
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 2: No concussion stuff.

859
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 11: Like if you ask my wife, she would tell you

860
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 11: I forget things. I just told you an hour ago.

861
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 9: You lost that.

862
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 11: Back in those days, they told you to go home,

863
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 11: have a beer, go to bed, have an AskMen, we'll

864
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 11: come and skate it at you tomorrow. You'll sweat it out.

865
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 2: Do you have any pictures of you fighting, like the

866
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: frame photos of you. Yeah, it was going to happen

867
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: very often. I'm curious if I was.

868
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 11: Talking about my sports Illustraates trophy. I got one fight

869
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 11: really in my career. Neil Broughton wasn't even his fault.

870
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 11: I jumped him. The guy flies from New York and

871
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 11: he's out there giving this presentation about how my sportsmanship,

872
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 11: how I don't fight. First shift in I'm fighting Neil Broughton.

873
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 11: I get to the bench and I'll never get MESSI

874
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 11: said to me, what were you doing? And I said,

875
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 11: I don't know. But Davison Micah says. The good news

876
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 11: is that's not even a fight. That's called cat fighting,

877
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 11: so that doesn't count.

878
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 2: But did you throw a punch?

879
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 4: I don't even remember. I think I kind of, I

880
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 4: don't know.

881
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 11: We got to the pedally box and I remember I

882
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 11: looked over and I said, I'm sorry.

883
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: I apologize Neil.

884
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 11: I think he's more shocked than the seventeen people at

885
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 11: the game and the nineteen teammates I had on the

886
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 11: bench going what was that all about? One night we

887
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 11: were playing in Chicago, Bob Murray kind of he's always

888
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,919
Speaker 11: whacking me and hacking me, and I got so mad

889
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 11: at grabbed him.

890
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 4: He threw me on the.

891
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 11: Ice and he had his hand like this, and I'm

892
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 11: looking over at our bench and there's five guys with

893
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 11: their legs over the boards and he's holding me.

894
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 4: He goes, now, don't move, I'm not going to hate you.

895
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 4: And I.

896
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 11: Got back to the bench and I told all the guys,

897
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 11: I said, nobody's loved to touch him the rest of

898
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 11: the night.

899
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: But did you give like Dave Simenko an extra gift?

900
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 2: He was your protector? They had to have one on

901
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 2: each team.

902
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,479
Speaker 11: I'm guessing in those days everybody had sort of that guy, right.

903
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 4: You know.

904
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 11: The one thing I did give him, I gave him

905
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 11: my car that I wanted the All Star Game in

906
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 11: nineteen eighty nine and Edmonton, I guess, yeah, So I

907
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 11: brought him downstairs after the game. I said, here's the key,

908
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 11: so you can have the car. So he was great.

909
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 11: He was a great teammate to all of us, and

910
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 11: he was beloved by the fans. The fans and Emonton.

911
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 11: He was as big as anybody on that team. They

912
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 11: loved him to death. And you know, he was witty,

913
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 11: he was fine, and he didn't really want to fight.

914
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 11: He only did it if he had to, if he

915
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 11: saw somebody abusing a teammate. He never went looking to

916
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 11: hurt anybody. And that's listen. That's the other thing about

917
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 11: our league, especially in those days. Those tough guys didn't

918
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 11: want to go hurt guys. They didn't want to go

919
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 11: after those guys. They fought the big guys, right, They

920
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 11: fought each other.

921
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: It was kind of a code, all right, handicap the

922
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 2: teams that are left in the playoffs like a tutorial

923
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 2: on what do you think is going to play out?

924
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 4: Well?

925
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 11: I like all four teams because I think all four

926
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 11: teams are well coached, and I think all four teams

927
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 11: right now are getting goaltending. I think Attinger and Bobrovsky

928
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 11: have proven to be two of the elite goalies. Skinner

929
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 11: last year got to the finals and had a good run.

930
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 11: He's got two shutouts in a row, so he seems

931
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 11: to be on a roll. Anderson in Carolina, I wasn't.

932
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 11: He didn't have a bad game last night, but he

933
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 11: didn't have a great game last night.

934
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 4: The thing between.

935
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 11: Carolina and physical, I think Carolina is a little bit

936
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 11: faster and they the go, go, go go. Florida is

937
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 11: smart and discipline. This general manager has made some great deals.

938
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 11: He's got to chuck. He got Bennett traded for Seth

939
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 11: Jones or Shawn on and on. So it's tough to

940
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 11: knock out the Stanley Cup champions, right. So I like Florida,

941
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 11: But Roddy Brunomore and I were roommates at the Olympics

942
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 11: in nineteen ninety eight, so you know my hurts with

943
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 11: him also, and he's done a phenomenal job. Now everybody

944
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 11: knows Edmonton that you know, that's where my life was made,

945
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 11: and I always vote for them. My brother's the assistant GM.

946
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 11: They have the two of the best three players in

947
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 11: the National Hockey League and Dry Sidle and McDavid will

948
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 11: have questions the best player in the game. They're going

949
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 11: to have to contain him. Pete de Boor has done

950
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 11: a great job. And Dallas, they made incredible trade getting

951
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 11: Ratting in. I think it changed their team. The team

952
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 11: that Dallas is playing Edmonton's playing this year in the

953
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 11: semi finals. Dallas is a better team than they were

954
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 11: last year and that series went six games. So this

955
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 11: series I predicted goose seven games.

956
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: My best your wife and the family. Great to see

957
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: you again and ut.

958
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 11: Seeing you and it's always a pleasure. I hope everything's

959
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 11: going well for you and your family too.

960
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 2: Thank you, Bud. Good to talk to you.

961
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 4: You guys all take care.

962
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 2: How about that a great one?

963
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 9: What bye, Fritzy?

964
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 2: Yeah?

965
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 9: Jealous?

966
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? Wayne was it on the bus last night coming

967
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 2: back from the Emmys. Would never have said that.