Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with
Speaker 1: me Tammy Diderio.
Speaker 2: Today's guest is full.
Speaker 1: Of heart and full of soul, which is my favorite
Speaker 1: kind of person to chat with because the conversation is
Speaker 1: so real and meaningful and personal.
Speaker 2: Oh, I loved it so much.
Speaker 1: Powerhouse rapper and actress Breezy joins me today and man,
Speaker 1: we cover it all.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 2: Breezy rose to worldwide.
Speaker 1: Fame playing Freeda on the hit Fox drama Empire, working
Speaker 1: alongside the brilliant Taraji p Henson and Terrence Howard.
Speaker 2: This show was so good. Fast forward to today.
Speaker 1: She currently stars in the CW hit series All American,
Speaker 1: which is in its sixth season.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: The one hundredth episode of All American airs of this summer,
Speaker 1: which is an incredible milestone in the TV and film space,
Speaker 1: and that just shows the staying power that this series has.
Speaker 1: It means so much to the fandom. From the streets
Speaker 1: of Philadelphia to the spot light of Hollywood, Freezy has
Speaker 1: easily one of the most interesting stories that I've come across.
Speaker 1: She started as a barber, inheriting the craft from her
Speaker 1: father and her grandfather before a chance encounter with a
Speaker 1: former client that led her to the opportunity of a lifetime.
Speaker 1: I love her story because it just goes to show
Speaker 1: that if you have the faith, the dots in your
Speaker 1: life will connect in the ways that they are meant to.
Speaker 1: So let's see if we can get Breezy to say
Speaker 1: something that she has never said before.
Speaker 2: Freezy, how you doing, my friend? It's so good to
Speaker 2: see you.
Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm doing well. Enjoying Paris, enjoying the weather,
Speaker 3: the air, traffic, the people, not really being able to
Speaker 3: communicate properly with them, but you know, making it.
Speaker 2: That's the best.
Speaker 1: I like when you're kind of forced outside your comfort zone, right,
Speaker 1: it teaches you a thing or two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, you get to a place that
Speaker 3: you've never been. I've never been to Paris, and you realize, like,
Speaker 3: I don't know anything. I don't know I don't know
Speaker 3: which way to go, I don't know what to eat,
Speaker 3: I don't know how to ask for what I want eat.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't speak the language.
Speaker 1: There's something refreshing about that in this day and age.
Speaker 1: So I love to get outside our comfort zones, as
Speaker 1: I like to say. But Breezy, it's such a pleasure
Speaker 1: hanging out with you today. I'm a big fan of
Speaker 1: your work. I love everything you stand for. I love
Speaker 1: your story. It's so interesting in how you got from
Speaker 1: essentially a point A to where you are today. But
Speaker 1: I want to bring it back for a minute because
Speaker 1: something that I connect with you on is my husband's
Speaker 1: grandfather was a barber, and wow, some of his best
Speaker 1: experiences with his grandfather were growing up and watching him
Speaker 1: cut people's hair. And it's such a dear thing for him.
Speaker 1: And I know that that's your background. And you started
Speaker 1: off doing on Philadelphia and then Atlanta. So before we
Speaker 1: dive into how you got to where you are today,
Speaker 1: what about that craftsmanship did you love?
Speaker 2: Like why did you say? Oh, man, I want to
Speaker 2: get involved in that.
Speaker 3: It was actually a skill that came natural. And you know,
Speaker 3: I want to say it was just because of the
Speaker 3: many people in my family who did it before me.
Speaker 3: Somehow I feel like that thing happens, you know, But
Speaker 3: for me, it was just the people and being you know,
Speaker 3: of service and being personable, and you know, it's like
Speaker 3: it's such an important job. It's almost like a therapist,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like this person comes in
Speaker 3: and they trust you with their look. I mean, this
Speaker 3: is they leave out feeling better than they came or worse,
Speaker 3: you know, and that kind of it's like a weight
Speaker 3: that kind of sits on your shoulders. So to be
Speaker 3: able to have clients that were able to every time
Speaker 3: leave me feeling better than they came was like, I
Speaker 3: just got so much joy from that and also just
Speaker 3: like making people look good, you know, And it was fun.
Speaker 3: And I've always been artistic and I love to draw
Speaker 3: and things like that, so to cut hair, it's like
Speaker 3: it's an art to me, you know, So it was
Speaker 3: always fun. Everybody has different size shaped heads and different
Speaker 3: types of hair and people want different things, you know,
Speaker 3: so it was never it never got old for me,
Speaker 3: Like it was always exciting every time. You know, different
Speaker 3: personalities coming in the shop every day, and not just
Speaker 3: the people that are coming to me, but you know
Speaker 3: to barbershops that people everywhere, you know. So it was
Speaker 3: just an experience a lot of personalities, a lot of
Speaker 3: people that came from different walks of life, you know, backgrounds,
Speaker 3: and you know, everybody obviously in any type of salon
Speaker 3: just have different opinions, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 3: that was that was fun. It was interesting.
Speaker 1: Do you walk around now judging people's hair? Are you like, ooh,
Speaker 1: bad cut. I could have done that?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Absolutely, And then I also see people where I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: like I would love to cut his hair. You know,
Speaker 3: there is a such thing as having like a great
Speaker 3: head of hair. You know that's like worth cutting, you know.
Speaker 3: So yeah, on both sides absolutely, like look at people
Speaker 3: and say, you know what, I would love to cut
Speaker 3: their hair, or like, dag, who did that? You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Yeah, it happens all the time. Can't
Speaker 3: help it.
Speaker 1: That's so funny. Yeah, I would imagine you once you
Speaker 1: have the eye for that and you have the skill
Speaker 1: for it, you can't really turn that off, you know,
Speaker 1: No I can't.
Speaker 3: And it's like probably like the first thing I look at,
Speaker 3: it's like the first thing I noticed, Like if it's
Speaker 3: a good cut, I'm like, wow, that fade is amazing,
Speaker 3: Like whoever did that? Or I'm like, wow, they just
Speaker 3: took off way too much hair because you can always
Speaker 3: tell by how much grows back. You're like, dang, they
Speaker 3: took off way too much, you know. So I'm always
Speaker 3: it's like I said, it's like the first thing I
Speaker 3: noticed when I especially when I see men, first thing
Speaker 3: I look at.
Speaker 2: Oh God, no pressure, I hope I'm having a good
Speaker 2: hair day to day.
Speaker 3: No, you're good. Here's beautiful. You're beautiful.
Speaker 2: You're fine, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: Well, it's no surprise you're so creative and artistic in
Speaker 1: that space given what you do, you know, for your
Speaker 1: career with rapping and with acting and what I love
Speaker 1: is you know, you started with being a barber, and
Speaker 1: that led you to cut some pretty influential people's hair, right,
Speaker 1: Like did I see Acon and Chris Brown?
Speaker 2: Were they some of the folks you ended up cutting
Speaker 2: once you got to.
Speaker 3: Up Chris Brown? No, I've never cut him, Luducris was
Speaker 3: some cut a few actors here and there, Woodie McClain. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but that was all like that was all before, Like
Speaker 3: it was it was early on. You know, I was
Speaker 3: I was young. I was like late teens, early twenties.
Speaker 1: Oh subtle flat, So my late teens I was cutting
Speaker 1: these superstars hair.
Speaker 3: You know what. I just happened to be in an
Speaker 3: area in Atlanta where you know, it's almost like working
Speaker 3: in a barbershop, maybe on Hollywood Boulevard or in West Hollywood,
Speaker 3: Like it's one place that when you come to LA
Speaker 3: you're going to experience one, two or both of those places,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like having a barbershop dead
Speaker 3: in the Middle West Hollywood. You're going to see some people,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, You're gonna meet independent on
Speaker 3: your skill level, you may get a chance to interact
Speaker 3: with those people. And I just happened too. So it
Speaker 3: was nice.
Speaker 2: Well that's exactly what happened, right. You had you had a.
Speaker 1: Former client or a client who kind of presented you
Speaker 1: with this opportunity in the acting space, is that right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a he was a client for a while.
Speaker 3: He was also a producer. He was already like kind
Speaker 3: of navigating the world of Hollywood. I wasn't really like
Speaker 3: privy to it like that, you know, not not in
Speaker 3: great detail as I am now, But yeah, he was,
Speaker 3: and he just he he made a call to me
Speaker 3: and to see if I was interested because there was
Speaker 3: a role and something. It was about music, and I
Speaker 3: was just like I didn't really understand what he was saying,
Speaker 3: but I like did my best, and yeah, that's how
Speaker 3: that's how it happened. Happened very quickly. But that was
Speaker 3: how it happened. It did start with a client of mine,
Speaker 3: which is interesting because you never know, like you just
Speaker 3: never know who's going to be that bridge to get
Speaker 3: you from point A to point B or like you
Speaker 3: know where that's going to come from.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't believe in accidents. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think everything's kind of lined up in your life for
Speaker 1: a reason. And it's so interesting that you started in
Speaker 1: this profession that you genuinely loved and it was so creative,
Speaker 1: and you learn from people you love, and it naturally
Speaker 1: led you to something else that you love, and you know,
Speaker 1: a whole career in the arts, and that first opportunity
Speaker 1: I'm referring to as Empire, which was at the time
Speaker 1: one of the hottest shows in the world. I remember
Speaker 1: religiously watching it week after week, back back before the
Speaker 1: days of streaming, you know, you'd wait every week.
Speaker 3: I was watching it before before it happened. I was
Speaker 3: like what, because he asked me if I heard of it,
Speaker 3: and I was like, of course, everybody's heard of it,
Speaker 3: Like what you know, because we had TV hadn't seen
Speaker 3: nothing like that in a long time, and there was
Speaker 3: so many stars on that show. It was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: everybody was tuned in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I fell in love with Taraji. I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, who is this actress? She's so phenomenal and
Speaker 1: everything about the show I loved. But most people don't
Speaker 1: get their big break on this epically popular show. So
Speaker 1: before you joined and once you started working, did you
Speaker 1: have any fear? Were you nervous?
Speaker 2: Like? How did you just dive into all of that?
Speaker 2: Because I can be a lot for somebody.
Speaker 3: Initially, you know, I was nervous, and I think it
Speaker 3: was just because being in a room full of so
Speaker 3: many well seasoned actors like Taraji, like Terrence, Chris Rock,
Speaker 3: Gabby Citabey, she had just came off of Precious, you know.
Speaker 3: These people were like have done big things, and I
Speaker 3: was just kind of like, wow, like I've honestly, truly,
Speaker 3: I've done a lot of things, but I've never done this.
Speaker 3: So what am I here to do? You know what
Speaker 3: I mean? But I was just it was definitely a
Speaker 3: watch and learn type of environment for me. I was
Speaker 3: learning as I went along, especially as far as the
Speaker 3: craft was concerned. Once I finally got the time, like
Speaker 3: because filming was so immediate and the schedule was vigorous,
Speaker 3: and it was just everything was back to back and
Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure that whole thing out. I eventually,
Speaker 3: you know, got into acting classes like let me understand
Speaker 3: like the technical side of this, because I felt like
Speaker 3: I came in to it just exposing my natural personality,
Speaker 3: you know, in lending that to the situation. But I
Speaker 3: felt like I wanted to actually know what I was doing.
Speaker 3: But at first I was very nervous. You know, I
Speaker 3: was just kind of like, but you know, everybody made
Speaker 3: me so comfortable, and most importantly, the director and the
Speaker 3: actors that I were working alongside, they made me feel
Speaker 3: very comfortable. They didn't make me feel like I was
Speaker 3: new year.
Speaker 1: So that helped a lot, and a lot of people
Speaker 1: in that situation would kind of let fear take over,
Speaker 1: and it can be very paralyzing. It could affect the
Speaker 1: quality of your work, and it could make you not
Speaker 1: want to go to work. But you hat to show
Speaker 1: up every day, learning lines, learning raps. I mean, there
Speaker 1: was so much you had to learn so quickly. Was
Speaker 1: that an easy process for you? I know you've always
Speaker 1: written and done your wrapping, but being on a set
Speaker 1: with that pressure, like did you kind of pick it
Speaker 1: all up right away.
Speaker 3: I just was like, I'm here, I have to do it,
Speaker 3: Like it would be more embarrassing to kind of overthink
Speaker 3: it mess up than anything. To me, the music part
Speaker 3: was easy because I did have the pleasure and privilege
Speaker 3: of creating my own music for that character. So that
Speaker 3: was already like in my mind, that was the part
Speaker 3: of it that I was very fluent in, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. So I was like, oh, when it
Speaker 3: comes to performing or you know, anything, creating the music, like,
Speaker 3: I can do that with my eyes closed, you know.
Speaker 3: It was more so doing the scenes and cannot actually
Speaker 3: remember these lines and am I is it? How does
Speaker 3: it look? Because when you're doing music, we can hear
Speaker 3: it back and be like, oh that was a good
Speaker 3: or that wasn't good. Let me do another take. But
Speaker 3: when you're acting, you don't get that pleasure. You know.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like you're at the director's discretion. So
Speaker 3: if they're like, do it again, you gotta do it again.
Speaker 3: If they're like, oh it was good, then you don't
Speaker 3: get to do it again, whether you know it's good
Speaker 3: or you know it wasn't, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So it was just it was different, But it didn't
Speaker 3: take long for me to kind of get comfortable in
Speaker 3: the performance of it, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 3: was still like concerned of what it would look like
Speaker 3: because I mean, I had filmed I think the show
Speaker 3: premiered in September. I had filmed the first episode in July,
Speaker 3: but I had not seen what I did until September.
Speaker 3: So I went all that time. And that's how TV works.
Speaker 3: You don't get to see it. You know, they're not
Speaker 3: doing playback and here watch this. What do you think
Speaker 3: is not happening? Like that? Everything's moving so fast. So
Speaker 3: it was kind of like I was nervous, like for
Speaker 3: the premiere, like I don't know how I did. I
Speaker 3: don't even know what I look like, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, because I go through this air makeup and
Speaker 3: I'm wearing these clothes and this is what they want.
Speaker 3: You know, it's just like, Okay, I'm here. A little
Speaker 3: bit of nervous is there, But you know, I quickly
Speaker 3: got into it, quickly got into it. There was too
Speaker 3: many like big names around me to like crumble in
Speaker 3: that moment. That would have been embarrassing and I probably
Speaker 3: wouldn't be here, you.
Speaker 1: Know, There's something to be said too for your first
Speaker 1: kind of major opportunity being on such a big scale,
Speaker 1: because like you said, you don't really have time to
Speaker 1: stop and think.
Speaker 2: You just say, I gotta do this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look like an idiot, so I better just
Speaker 1: buckle down and do the best work I can. That's
Speaker 1: kind of been similar in my career. I've had big
Speaker 1: opportunities presented as some of the first ones, and same thing.
Speaker 1: It's like, there's no time to worry about it. You
Speaker 1: just got to get to get out and do it.
Speaker 1: But I'm even more impressed knowing that you were writing
Speaker 1: your own wraps for that show too, because it's hard
Speaker 1: enough learning your lines and being a new actor on
Speaker 1: a new series, and then you have to throw that in.
Speaker 1: Even though it's second nature for you, it's still a
Speaker 1: lot more work.
Speaker 3: So that's yeah, that's balancing both of them absolutely, And
Speaker 3: I would I would ask myself sometimes like how are
Speaker 3: you remembering all these lines? How are you able to
Speaker 3: do both? And I just like, I just at a
Speaker 3: point I just stopped questioning myself. I'm like, the moment's here,
Speaker 3: this is what you were called to do. You're here
Speaker 3: to do it, you know. So I just I was thankful.
Speaker 3: I was super grateful, and I just tried to like
Speaker 3: focus and pay attend as much as I could because
Speaker 3: I didn't, you know, my biggest fear had always been
Speaker 3: like being unprepared, you know. So to get pulled into
Speaker 3: something that I actually hadn't done enough like you know,
Speaker 3: research or had enough knowledge of, to me was kind
Speaker 3: of scary. It's like what it's like somebody handing your
Speaker 3: car telling you to change the engine, and you've never
Speaker 3: worked on a car in your life, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. So I kind of just took everything in
Speaker 3: stride and was like patient with myself too, because you know,
Speaker 3: I got to a point where I was a little
Speaker 3: hard on myself and it was affecting how I showed
Speaker 3: up at work. So I just like had to find
Speaker 3: ways to let that go, like let it go. Be
Speaker 3: present in the moment. The time is now, you got
Speaker 3: to do it. You were called to do it, Just
Speaker 3: show up and do it.
Speaker 1: And I imagine when you start off, you're just kind
Speaker 1: of taking it day by day. You're getting the work done,
Speaker 1: You're looking at the next day of work. It's just
Speaker 1: kind of this machine you're hoping you're doing Okay, you're
Speaker 1: not seeing the work, so it's like, oh, man, I
Speaker 1: hope I'm proud of of all of this when it
Speaker 1: comes out. But do you remember was there a moment
Speaker 1: for you on that set that you thought, Okay, you
Speaker 1: know what, I've arrived. I know I'm doing my damn thing,
Speaker 1: and I feel pretty good and I'm now I'm cruising.
Speaker 3: So the role, initially just for context, was only supposed
Speaker 3: to run throughout four episodes, right, So by the time,
Speaker 3: you know, I felt like in the beginning, Okay, I'm
Speaker 3: going to start here and this is where it stops,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, So like, let me make
Speaker 3: the most of that. Before I knew it, I was
Speaker 3: on like episode sixteen and I was like, oh, I'm here.
Speaker 3: They keep writing more and more and more, and they
Speaker 3: want me to do more and more and more. And
Speaker 3: then they wanted Lee Daniels had created in that timeframe
Speaker 3: the show Star, and they're like, they want you to
Speaker 3: go on the show Star as well, and you need
Speaker 3: to do this on that show. And I was like,
Speaker 3: I obviously couldn't do it because of contractual reasons, but
Speaker 3: I was just like, oh, this is it, and then
Speaker 3: in the interer of that, I'm getting calls to do
Speaker 3: this film. I'm getting calls to do that film. And
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I'm doing something right. Somebody's seeing something,
Speaker 3: you know. So I was like, okay, you know, but
Speaker 3: I didn't take it any less seriously, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, Like I didn't develop some cocky, you know, attitude.
Speaker 3: I was just like, Okay, you thought it was going
Speaker 3: to be over, It's not over, you know. And from
Speaker 3: that moment, it just kept going, kept going, and I
Speaker 3: was like, Okay, I'm in it. I'm really in it.
Speaker 3: This is not a one way thing, like it's not
Speaker 3: here today, going tomorrow, like this is still going on
Speaker 3: and on. So and that was years.
Speaker 1: Ago, and fast forward to today with All American, which
Speaker 1: is in its sixth season.
Speaker 2: You play Coop.
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you love about playing that role
Speaker 1: and what can you most relate to?
Speaker 3: I like that this role in you know, it's crazy
Speaker 3: because especially newcomers, you don't really spend this amount of
Speaker 3: time on two hit shows back to back. That's one, right,
Speaker 3: so two Coop is like a softer version of what
Speaker 3: I played on Empire. In my opinion, she's really softer
Speaker 3: and we get to see more of her personality and
Speaker 3: she's not so angry. You know, that other character was
Speaker 3: very angry. So I liked the likeness of Coop. I
Speaker 3: love that she has, you know, friends, and she's got
Speaker 3: like a village and there's like decent camaraderie there and
Speaker 3: it's fun. It kind of reminds me of like when
Speaker 3: I was younger watching Save by the Bell. You got
Speaker 3: a group of kids in high school, like that was
Speaker 3: fun for us to watch. I was happy to be
Speaker 3: a representation for that particular generation, which was our target audience,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, this generation now, you know.
Speaker 3: And it was fun doing all of it was fun.
Speaker 3: The characters that I played with are you know, the
Speaker 3: rest of my cast, like everybody was fun. It really
Speaker 3: felt like we were in high school, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So I like that. It was like I
Speaker 3: like that I was able to prepare enough in all
Speaker 3: of my work before this to be able to intentionally
Speaker 3: add what I wanted to add to Kop, you know,
Speaker 3: in regards to her sexuality, in regards to her personality,
Speaker 3: her relationship dynamic with her best friend Spencer on the show,
Speaker 3: like I was I felt like I was, I had
Speaker 3: done enough of the work to be able to give
Speaker 3: my input on this particular character. So that's what I was.
Speaker 3: You know, makes me most happy about about playing her
Speaker 3: because of the input I do have with the character.
Speaker 1: It's a character that means so much to so many people.
Speaker 1: The visibility alone means so much to so many people,
Speaker 1: and the show does too. Why do you think this
Speaker 1: show has resonated in such a big way because people
Speaker 1: really do feel reflected and seen through this.
Speaker 3: I think without you know, obviously, this is not a
Speaker 3: X rated show. You know, we are on primetime television.
Speaker 3: We're not like you know, on Showtime or HBO or
Speaker 3: anything like that, where we can be explicit in our
Speaker 3: topics and stuff like that. But we've been able to
Speaker 3: touch on all the things that are so strongly talked
Speaker 3: about today in an easily digestible form. You know, for
Speaker 3: people that was sexuality, that was depression and self care,
Speaker 3: self awareness, self help, that was the opioid epidemic, you know,
Speaker 3: things like that, things that as teenagers, and again speaking
Speaker 3: on the characters, you know, these are things that it's
Speaker 3: not going to change no matter what generation you talk to.
Speaker 3: High school always had the same type of issues. We
Speaker 3: all ran into the same things, not feeling as confident
Speaker 3: about ourselves, or being peer pressured, or leaning on substances
Speaker 3: like alcohol or you know, or even possibly doing it.
Speaker 3: You didn't necessarily have to because I didn't, you know,
Speaker 3: but we all knew somebody that was dealing with something.
Speaker 3: So the way that they've been able to take, you know,
Speaker 3: such important conversations and put them at the forefront of
Speaker 3: this show, I think is what made it made it
Speaker 3: what it is now because our target audience needed a
Speaker 3: representation for themselves, and that's what each of these characters
Speaker 3: I feel has been even you know, Jordan Baker and
Speaker 3: him and his sister being biracial. That was also a thing,
Speaker 3: you know, that was happening. We had this Black Lives
Speaker 3: Matter movement, We had all this stuff with the police
Speaker 3: and black men and stuff happened, and we had there
Speaker 3: were children in the world that did not know what
Speaker 3: side to land on. Am I really black? Am I
Speaker 3: really white? Am I really this? And I really that?
Speaker 3: You know? But we were able to share a story
Speaker 3: that if you were needing help, this gave it to you.
Speaker 3: If you needed a voice or a little encouragement, These
Speaker 3: stories were able to give you that, So I think
Speaker 3: that's why it's been and also for like parents and
Speaker 3: people that have to raise children like that or peers
Speaker 3: of children. It kind of gave you a birds that
Speaker 3: I view of what these people may be going through,
Speaker 3: whether they talk to you about it or not, you know,
Speaker 3: So it created empathy across the board for a number
Speaker 3: of people and understanding of self to the people who
Speaker 3: are actually dealing with these issues. And I think, you know,
Speaker 3: entertainment in itself, especially television, has just it's kind of
Speaker 3: finding its way back to a real place, and there
Speaker 3: is an understanding that we need real stories because there
Speaker 3: is real life happening outside and it's not just Hollywood
Speaker 3: is not just glitz and glamour, and it's not all
Speaker 3: made to look like it's so perfect, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. Like we do have a duty of being
Speaker 3: of service to people, especially being entertainers, you know, so
Speaker 3: and our writers, our showrunner and Catchy Carroll, she's very
Speaker 3: adamant about that, you know, just telling these stories properly
Speaker 3: and making sure that people feel seen and heard when
Speaker 3: watching anything that she's attached to all American being, you know,
Speaker 3: one that we both you know, feel that way.
Speaker 1: About well your cast, and certainly you are making many
Speaker 1: many people feel that way. And it must be very
Speaker 1: prideful moment for you to be a part of a
Speaker 1: show that will forever kind of change the conversation and
Speaker 1: the landscape and not teach people in a I'm you know,
Speaker 1: almighty and higher than you, but welcome people into a conversation,
Speaker 1: which I think is what your show does so brilliantly.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, no, no, just come join it, like let's
Speaker 1: all talk about these things together. And I think that
Speaker 1: is so rare to find.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because most people, you know, they move through life
Speaker 3: never saying anything, you know, and that's where that's where
Speaker 3: the depression comes from. That's where the substance abuse comes from.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It's not feeling like you have a voice anywhere, or
Speaker 3: not feeling seen or heard by you know, the people
Speaker 3: around you. And I think that the show more importantly
Speaker 3: made those people a little more visible, you know, and
Speaker 3: it made you know, a person looking at them, invite
Speaker 3: them into the conversation, or start a conversation with them,
Speaker 3: or just try to get them to open up a
Speaker 3: little bit, you know. So I feel like it did
Speaker 3: a lot for so many different people. But you know,
Speaker 3: I'm very proud of that. I'm very proud of that because,
Speaker 3: like I said, I feel like this my purpose is
Speaker 3: to be of service and whatever I'm doing, you know,
Speaker 3: so I'm happy to help. And I'm definitely the person
Speaker 3: that will engage with most people that will message me
Speaker 3: about their story and talk about what they've gone through
Speaker 3: and you know, and how my work has helped them,
Speaker 3: especially on this show.
Speaker 2: I love that. I love that so much.
Speaker 1: I'm all about putting out messages that matter, especially in
Speaker 1: our business. So the fact that you can keep doing
Speaker 1: work that does that is amazing. And you strike me
Speaker 1: as very much an old soul and I feel that way.
Speaker 1: I've always felt that way. You just seem so wise
Speaker 1: and so forward thinking, and I feel like you've always
Speaker 1: probably been that way. That's just my guess from talking
Speaker 1: to you thus far. Is there something over the last
Speaker 1: few years that you've really learned about yourself, like a
Speaker 1: great life lesson or something that's kind of helping you
Speaker 1: as you enter the next chapter of your life.
Speaker 3: I think I've learned over the past few years that
Speaker 3: I have so much more to learn, you know, I do.
Speaker 3: I tell myself all the time. I'm like, I feel
Speaker 3: like an old man, you know, Like everything I do,
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm such an old man. And it may
Speaker 3: be the old soul of it all, but yeah, I
Speaker 3: just feeling like I don't know everything. And you know,
Speaker 3: I was that I had gotten to a point in
Speaker 3: my life where I lived a certain part of my
Speaker 3: life feeling like I know a lot, you know. But
Speaker 3: at this point, I'm like, you know what, I'm opening
Speaker 3: myself up more I have to, you know, and being
Speaker 3: more receptive to things like that. That's where I'm at
Speaker 3: in my life right now. Like I'm just I'm open
Speaker 3: to different perspectives, very open to honesty from others, honesty
Speaker 3: within myself, you know. And a lot of times would
Speaker 3: you skip through like oh it's working, Oh I'm good,
Speaker 3: I'm making money, it's okay, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And I don't feel like that. I feel like, you know,
Speaker 3: if you want to progress in a particular way in life,
Speaker 3: you have to open yourself up a little bit, you know,
Speaker 3: in each each level of your life, you know. So
Speaker 3: that's where I'm at. I'm just like, you know, so
Speaker 3: much more to learn. I'm open to most things you
Speaker 3: know that are beneficial to me obviously, but yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: I'm just open. That's where I'm at.
Speaker 1: Well, that's why you're going to have a long career.
Speaker 1: I think if you're open and you're willing to keep
Speaker 1: growing and change, that seems to be the secret saw
Speaker 1: so many people miss. And it's like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to be who I was yesterday or last year, Like
Speaker 1: I want to evolve. And you know, you seem like
Speaker 1: you're the type who's always trying to better yourself personally
Speaker 1: and professionally, and I think that really is a testament
Speaker 1: to the work we see you do because it's it's
Speaker 1: nothing short of amazing and it's going to only keep
Speaker 1: soaring in every single direction that you want to go in,
Speaker 1: which is really cool, especially in an industry like Hollywood
Speaker 1: where it's so hard sometimes it's so hard to to
Speaker 1: kind of be yourself and you have to fight for
Speaker 1: it and you have to get to a place where
Speaker 1: you're comfortable with being yourself. Have you found it hard
Speaker 1: to maintain authenticity throughout your career in Hollywood?
Speaker 3: Well, First, I appreciate everything you just said about me.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Okay, So two parts of that answer.
Speaker 3: I did not used to feel like that. I'm like,
Speaker 3: you know, I came exactly as I was. But you know,
Speaker 3: I shortly learned that being who you are isn't necessarily
Speaker 3: easily digestible for people. You know, And once you get
Speaker 3: in Hollywood, you realize that, you know, are some of
Speaker 3: these people real or are they not? Or why is
Speaker 3: everybody so unhappy? And why is there so much drug
Speaker 3: abuse or substance abuse of alcohol abuse? Like why is
Speaker 3: there like people are miserable, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: And it's like, no, I'm not, but I just I
Speaker 3: am who I am. Of course I want to be better,
Speaker 3: but I think that the authenticity, true authenticity in Hollywood
Speaker 3: comes with a price. It comes with a price because
Speaker 3: you know, you being who you are could get you uninvited.
Speaker 3: You know, we don't want to do certain things around
Speaker 3: him or her because of who you are, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean? I don't know. And there's a lot
Speaker 3: of pretending going on, and a lot of people are
Speaker 3: doing things they don't want to do. You're in places
Speaker 3: you don't want to be, talking to people you don't
Speaker 3: even like, you know what I'm saying. So I think
Speaker 3: that there's just I don't know for some people like myself,
Speaker 3: for me to be authentic as everything. And I don't
Speaker 3: want to be uptight in pretending in any situation that
Speaker 3: I'm in, you know what I mean. I don't maybe
Speaker 3: I won't be like my wild and crazy self and
Speaker 3: like just blurt out stuff, you know. But I don't
Speaker 3: absolutely want to have to put on a mask, you know.
Speaker 3: I don't want to have to put on a mask
Speaker 3: to be accepted in a room.
Speaker 1: That's a reminder I think so many people need, not
Speaker 1: just in Hollywood, in any career profession where people want
Speaker 1: to put you in a box or want to see
Speaker 1: a version of you that's not really who you are.
Speaker 1: And you're like, wait a minute, no, no, like receive
Speaker 1: me for who I am. And I know in your case,
Speaker 1: it's really important for you to put out the message
Speaker 1: and the importance of being who you are. And you
Speaker 1: say you're proudly a masculine presenting gay women, right, and
Speaker 1: you want to see more representation of that out there,
Speaker 1: so talk to me about that.
Speaker 3: Well, I just feel like, who would I be if
Speaker 3: I wasn't really that, If I wasn't really who I
Speaker 3: was saying I was, Who would I be to the
Speaker 3: young women and men as well who are watching me
Speaker 3: based off the work that I'm doing, Like it's almost
Speaker 3: like I'm giving false advice, like yeah, pretend to be
Speaker 3: this when it matters, and when it doesn't, just forget
Speaker 3: about it, you know. So it's so important. For one,
Speaker 3: I personally did not grow up seeing people like myself
Speaker 3: anywhere on any screen or in music or you know,
Speaker 3: anything like that. So there's a lot of people who
Speaker 3: struggle with that. I haven't. I didn't. I always just
Speaker 3: felt like, you know what you are, who you are.
Speaker 3: I always felt like I was special. I also was
Speaker 3: never like shunned or put down about my sexuality either,
Speaker 3: you know. So I don't share a lot of the
Speaker 3: same experience that a lot of you know, people of
Speaker 3: my community do, And for that reason, I just want
Speaker 3: to make sure that I am properly representing the young
Speaker 3: women that you know come behind me. You know. I
Speaker 3: want you to stand into who you are. You don't
Speaker 3: have to be whatever, you could be absolutely skilled as
Speaker 3: you want to be in whatever you're doing and present
Speaker 3: how it's comfortable for you, you know, And I think
Speaker 3: that's important and that topic alone is something that we're
Speaker 3: having a lot these days, you know, just representation and
Speaker 3: acceptance and the freedom to just be so important these days.
Speaker 3: So I want to I always want to stand on
Speaker 3: that side of the fence, you know, and encouraging people
Speaker 3: to just be yourself. And I've had even though I'm woman,
Speaker 3: I've absolutely had men, you know, who are in relationships
Speaker 3: with women who have found their identity in me, you know,
Speaker 3: and just chose to listen. I'm being honest and I'm
Speaker 3: leaving my marriage and I actually don't like women, and
Speaker 3: I thought this is what I had to do, and
Speaker 3: you know, but whatever, you need to make the best
Speaker 3: step for yourself. If I can do that, I'm so happy.
Speaker 3: Tom Well.
Speaker 1: I think so many people aspire to that. They want
Speaker 1: to have confidence in who they are. And it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter if you're a man, a woman, anything in between.
Speaker 1: I mean, if I am following you and I'm struggling
Speaker 1: with who I am, I'm going to see you being
Speaker 1: your true self and say, oh my god, like, how
Speaker 1: do I get to that point? And in many ways
Speaker 1: you are a pioneer, because yes, we've made a lot
Speaker 1: of progress in twenty twenty four, but there's a lot
Speaker 1: of work to be done, and.
Speaker 3: That's just one year and this really has been this
Speaker 3: has been the year of it so far.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's work to do and you're in many
Speaker 1: ways leading the charge, you know, and one of the
Speaker 1: people that are showing just being who you are is okay.
Speaker 1: So I hope, I hope that you never forget that
Speaker 1: what you're doing extends beyond the art to the music,
Speaker 1: the acting. It's also just being yourself in a business
Speaker 1: and in a world where people so badly need to
Speaker 1: see that is making a huge difference, which I hope
Speaker 1: and imagine must feel kind of good, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And to be honest, like my it's not something
Speaker 3: that is at the forefront of my mind all the time,
Speaker 3: but my girlfriend absolutely reminds me all the time just
Speaker 3: how important and bigger what I'm doing is, you know,
Speaker 3: outside of, like you said, being on the screen or
Speaker 3: making music. Like there's actually just so many people that
Speaker 3: look to me for many different reputations, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, And I just happen to be someone who's
Speaker 3: who's happy to do it, you know. So I love
Speaker 3: the any chance I get to talk. And I went out.
Speaker 3: I was at a film festival in Miami, and I
Speaker 3: went to an event and I almost like I went
Speaker 3: to the I went inside maybe five minutes, went to
Speaker 3: the bathroom, never made it to the bathroom. I ended
Speaker 3: up in the hallway talking to a group of four people,
Speaker 3: same conversation you and I are having to the end
Speaker 3: of the event before I knew where everybody was walking out,
Speaker 3: and I was like, shit, missed it, you know, But
Speaker 3: I actually I have more pleasure and in more enjoyable
Speaker 3: times standing there talking to It was three women, you know,
Speaker 3: three yeah, three women and two men that I was
Speaker 3: talking to just the entire time about representation, about this industry,
Speaker 3: and you know, just confidence and being yourself and you know,
Speaker 3: the work that you put in and timing and things
Speaker 3: like that. And I just that's what I enjoy. That's
Speaker 3: why I feel like I'm chosen to do it. And
Speaker 3: it's not for any other accolade.
Speaker 1: I think when you go into this industry and your
Speaker 1: artistry with a bigger purpose, that's that's when a some
Speaker 1: of the best magic happens.
Speaker 2: With your work.
Speaker 1: But b it keeps you grounded to keep doing what
Speaker 1: you're doing, knowing there's more to it than just you. Right,
Speaker 1: It puts it all off of you, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: feel so for lack of a better word, selfish, even
Speaker 1: though it's not really selfish, but it feels more like
Speaker 1: I'm sharing my gifts with the world for the better,
Speaker 1: which is exactly what you're doing, which is awesome. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, you probably need like your own
Speaker 1: time to deal with the things going on in your life.
Speaker 1: And mental health is such a big crisis in our
Speaker 1: world right now, and you know, people are just starting
Speaker 1: to talk about it more and more. But how do
Speaker 1: you take care of you? Like, how do you take
Speaker 1: care of your mind and your spirit in such a
Speaker 1: crazy career and being someone that helps so many people,
Speaker 1: like you got to replenish your own cup too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've actually I used to live in a space,
Speaker 3: you know, feeling like I had to be just present
Speaker 3: in the career of it all, and I'm a celebrity
Speaker 3: and I'm an entertainer, Like I felt like I had
Speaker 3: to always be that and it couldn't turn off, you know.
Speaker 3: And I finally have gotten to a point now within
Speaker 3: like the past year, where I'm like, no, I'm going
Speaker 3: to take time and disconnect from that, you know, when
Speaker 3: I need to. When I'm in it, I'm in it.
Speaker 3: When I'm not, I'm not, you know. So these days
Speaker 3: it's just completely disconnecting from that when I feel the
Speaker 3: need to and finding now, you know what it is
Speaker 3: I like to do, and what it is that makes
Speaker 3: me happy, and what it is that brings me peace
Speaker 3: and calmness, you know what I mean. Like, I'm actively
Speaker 3: still learning those things. So I don't have a you know,
Speaker 3: a laundry list of stuff that I do to take
Speaker 3: care of myself because I'm actually just figuring it out
Speaker 3: right now. Because for so long I thought that I
Speaker 3: had to be just like in everything, everywhere, all the time,
Speaker 3: you know. So now I'm like, I'm actually just exhausted
Speaker 3: with that, and I do want to take better care
Speaker 3: of myself. So that's the journey I'm on now. Hmmm.
Speaker 2: I love that being in touch with what you need.
Speaker 1: I feel like it is sometimes the hardest first step
Speaker 1: to just like stop and say, wait a minute, this
Speaker 1: is what I need and I might not know how
Speaker 1: to get there right now, but I'm going to figure
Speaker 1: it out. So I think that's that's an important thing.
Speaker 3: And I also feel an obligated you know, I was
Speaker 3: feeling like this strong sense of obligation, you know, like,
Speaker 3: this is what you do, what are you doing it
Speaker 3: for if you don't want to do all the things
Speaker 3: with it? And I'm like, is that really necessary?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You know, and that I you know, I landed at
Speaker 3: a place where it's not it's not necessary.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I absolutely can take the time for myself and do
Speaker 3: what I want to do and do the things that
Speaker 3: truly make me happy. So I'm grateful that I've come
Speaker 3: to that realization and I actually have the time to
Speaker 3: figure it out. So that's what I'm doing. So any
Speaker 3: of my spare time outside of like what I need
Speaker 3: to be doing professionally, I'm just you know, just figuring
Speaker 3: out ways to make myself better and to love myself
Speaker 3: better and you know, make myself happier.
Speaker 2: Good for you, Good for you.
Speaker 1: That's that's only going to serve you in every beautiful way, mind, body,
Speaker 1: spirit going forward. So I love that you have that awareness,
Speaker 1: which is so important, Breeze. I could talk to you
Speaker 1: for like four more hours because I just I love
Speaker 1: the advice you give. I love the perspective you share.
Speaker 1: I love how grounded you are. It's always exciting for
Speaker 1: me when I bring people on these shows to really
Speaker 1: peel back be celebrity persona and get to know someone
Speaker 1: a little better. And it's so fulfilling as an interviewer
Speaker 1: to actually feel like, oh cool, I have a good
Speaker 1: idea of who this girl is and she's a badass.
Speaker 2: I really like that.
Speaker 1: And I wrap up every episode with a question based
Speaker 1: off the title of the show, and that question is,
Speaker 1: what is one thing you've never said before? I know
Speaker 1: you've done a lot of interviews, you put a lot
Speaker 1: out there. You have such a big heart, so you do.
Speaker 1: You share a lot, But is there something that you
Speaker 1: can think of that you haven't shared before.
Speaker 3: I would say that I never shared the truth that
Speaker 3: I have never loved myself properly. I've never said that.
Speaker 3: I've never even said it out loud. This was my
Speaker 3: first time saying it. It's always it's about a year
Speaker 3: old thought and just to continue on what you do
Speaker 3: to take care of yourself and mental health and things
Speaker 3: like that. Like that's what led me to that figuring
Speaker 3: that out, the journey of loving myself better and not
Speaker 3: being so accessible to everything in everybody, you know, kind
Speaker 3: of just going inside and shutting the door sometimes and
Speaker 3: just really taking care of yourself and then going out
Speaker 3: when you're ready, you know, Like that's the journey I'm
Speaker 3: on now. So no, I've never I never said it
Speaker 3: one two, never admitted that you know, or even new
Speaker 3: or acknowledged it. It's all new to me right now.
Speaker 3: But it's a part of my life that I'm dealing
Speaker 3: with now, but that I'm also happy to share in
Speaker 3: knowing that it's one of those things that I'm sure
Speaker 3: there's somebody watching going through the same thing.
Speaker 1: When was the moment where you realized that, when you
Speaker 1: when you thought, oh my god, I don't think I've
Speaker 1: ever really loved myself.
Speaker 3: I would say last year April May of last year,
Speaker 3: I just I woke up one morning and I just
Speaker 3: looked in the mirror and I just hated everything. Hated
Speaker 3: what was around me, hated what my personal life was,
Speaker 3: the relationship I was in. I didn't like any of it.
Speaker 3: And I was like, what are you doing? Why are
Speaker 3: you doing it? What part of all of these things
Speaker 3: that I'm now seeing in the mirror in this one moment,
Speaker 3: what about all these things are good for you? And
Speaker 3: none of it was? And I was like, wow, Like
Speaker 3: it was just it was sad. It was hurtful, it
Speaker 3: was painful. It was a painful thing to get through.
Speaker 3: I would say that today way further past that, just
Speaker 3: heavy feeling of it all than I was last year,
Speaker 3: but still gradually working at it every single day. But
Speaker 3: it was just the realization that nothing I was doing
Speaker 3: was for my benefit or for my good or was
Speaker 3: filling my cup.
Speaker 1: For lack of bad words, And did you feel that
Speaker 1: most of your life but suppressed that until it just
Speaker 1: you couldn't suppress that any longer A year ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that, you know. I just in that
Speaker 3: moment I realized that my cup was empty. I felt
Speaker 3: depleted in every way emotionally, mentally, physically. I was like,
Speaker 3: what am I doing? What am I doing? And that
Speaker 3: was a hard question, and I had to ask myself
Speaker 3: in the realization of everything around me that I mentioned,
Speaker 3: it was very hard to accept. But for some reason
Speaker 3: I was just like, I'm not doing any of it.
Speaker 3: I don't have an explanation, I don't even know why.
Speaker 3: I don't have nothing to talk about. I'm just not
Speaker 3: doing it. And I have not looked back since that day.
Speaker 3: So now I'm just like forward thinking, forward movement only
Speaker 3: if it's not. And again, I have my own stuff
Speaker 3: that I'm still dealing with, but I'm not doing that anymore,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And it absolutely has to
Speaker 3: be beneficial to me. And I have to be able
Speaker 3: to replenish myself and energize myself and make myself happy
Speaker 3: and love myself, you know, at a certain level before
Speaker 3: I expect somebody else to, you know. So that's what
Speaker 3: I'm working on. Now.
Speaker 1: That's amazing that you share that, because I think people
Speaker 1: look at you and they say she has success and
Speaker 1: things hit show after hit show, and it's so popular
Speaker 1: and has millions of social media followers. But you, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, weren't happy, right that in
Speaker 1: that moment.
Speaker 3: Let me take something happy. What you just said was
Speaker 3: the hardest pill for me to swallow, because the perception
Speaker 3: of who I was or who people think I am,
Speaker 3: even now you know what I'm saying, had not matched
Speaker 3: my reality. So I also felt like I can't even
Speaker 3: do that anymore. So if I can't sit here and
Speaker 3: talk to you as a friend and like be honest
Speaker 3: with you, then we actually just can't have a conversation,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So a lot of the
Speaker 3: oh my god, you're this and oh it's that. Oh
Speaker 3: my god, you did congratulate and I was like, I
Speaker 3: want to hear it, you know, and it became uncomfortable,
Speaker 3: you know, like, no, like, how how do I go?
Speaker 3: How am I the person that people look up to
Speaker 3: so much? People think I got all the answers and
Speaker 3: I do all the things, and I'm just the best
Speaker 3: of this and the best of that. I'm like, I
Speaker 3: ain't shit, not like in a crazy way, but I'm
Speaker 3: just like, you know, I'm coming to all these realizations
Speaker 3: about myself and this is the exact opposite of what
Speaker 3: people are thinking, you know, about me. And I'm like,
Speaker 3: not that I don't possess any of those things, but
Speaker 3: in totality, I'm sorry, no, you know, and the bad
Speaker 3: parts were outweighing the good, and I'm like, I have
Speaker 3: to make a change, you know. And I'm happy to
Speaker 3: share along my journey because I'm interested to see what
Speaker 3: part of that helps people too, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Because I'm like, I can't be the only one. Can't
Speaker 3: be the only one, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 3: I'm happy to and you know, it's a very vulnerable
Speaker 3: time for me, as well, but I'm okay, Like I
Speaker 3: feel like I have someone who absolutely loves and protects me,
Speaker 3: you know, so I feel safe, you know, and being
Speaker 3: able to be comfortable in my vulnerability. And that's so
Speaker 3: important too, like the people you have around you, you know,
Speaker 3: especially if you're if you have a partner in an
Speaker 3: intimate way of some sort, you know, that's so important.
Speaker 3: And that's kind of where it starts, because you go outside,
Speaker 3: but you have to come home every day. You know.
Speaker 3: It's like the person you'll deal with the most. So
Speaker 3: I've had the luxury of having a special person that
Speaker 3: has helped me through all this, but it hasn't been
Speaker 3: It hasn't been easy, you know. But I'm still like
Speaker 3: standing strong in the pursuance of my own happiness.
Speaker 2: And that's powerful too.
Speaker 1: You're not sitting here saying, you know, Tommy, I felt
Speaker 1: that way a year ago. It's something I felt my
Speaker 1: whole life and suppressed it until I couldn't it any longer.
Speaker 1: But now I'm good, everything's great. You're like, no, I'm
Speaker 1: still working on my shit and I don't even know
Speaker 1: what it all means or why I totally felt that way,
Speaker 1: And I'm trying to figure that out day by day.
Speaker 1: And that's an important message too, is it's okay, Like
Speaker 1: there's no time limit on it, Like take time to
Speaker 1: figure out who the hell you are, right, I feel like.
Speaker 3: Things are going to depending on situations, Like things are
Speaker 3: going to arise at any given moment, and there's always
Speaker 3: going to be something that you're going to have to face,
Speaker 3: deal with it, sort out and figure out how you're
Speaker 3: going to move forward. Like I don't think it all
Speaker 3: happens in one shot, Like here it is shits and shambles.
Speaker 3: Figure it out, like no, things are going to keep
Speaker 3: coming and keep coming up, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So it's easier said, so I try to say it.
Speaker 3: It's truthfully not easy, but just truthfully speaking, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 1: I think that's a very important message to put out,
Speaker 1: and I'm glad you're at a place today where while
Speaker 1: you still have things to figure out, you do love
Speaker 1: yourself and you know, you realize that you belong here,
Speaker 1: you should be here, you should be doing the things
Speaker 1: you're doing, and you deserve it all. And you'll figure
Speaker 1: out more and more about yourself as you keep going.
Speaker 1: But I think that's a really cool message to put out,
Speaker 1: especially from an outsider looking in when you think she
Speaker 1: can never feel that way. I think that's really really cool, Breezy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I adore you.
Speaker 1: After talking to you, I'm so happy for your success,
Speaker 1: and it's really cool to hear more about who you are.
Speaker 1: And I feel like, hopefully this interview gave you a
Speaker 1: different space to talk about some different things, and I
Speaker 1: know I so enjoyed it, and I think this conversation
Speaker 1: will help a lot of people out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did. I appreciate you. I appreciate you, know,
Speaker 3: just you asking the real questions, you know, because so
Speaker 3: much of these type of things are just so surface
Speaker 3: level when the answers are like premeditated and it's like
Speaker 3: that at you know, But I appreciate you truly. Thank well, Thank.
Speaker 1: You, Thank you for joining from Paris. You're in Paris still, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: which is, by the way, the city I got engaged
Speaker 1: in so forever a special place.
Speaker 2: In my heart.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 2: Yes, I love it very much. But thank you. I
Speaker 2: hope we get to hang out in person in the
Speaker 2: near future. Keep killing it.
Speaker 1: I'll be watching your star continue to rise and explode.
Speaker 2: In the best ways possible.
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Speaker 2: All right, my friend talks soon.
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