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Speaker 1: Yo, it's a rapp raid our podcast. My name is

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Speaker 1: beat I Elliott Wilson. We're back in LA.

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Speaker 2: You know you made the flight b I he left that.

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Speaker 1: Rainy New York situation I heard, man, I had to

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Speaker 1: get an arc man. But back in sunny California cut

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Speaker 1: off Khaki's French braids and house shoes.

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Speaker 3: You know, I moved to California when I saw that

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Speaker 3: New York rain man, I was like, I made the

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Speaker 3: right I made the right boop every it look like

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Speaker 3: a little monsoon many alright, man, Okay, you had a

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Speaker 3: surfer drowned too. I guess, yeah, fact drown But how

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Speaker 3: was you Was it really as bad as it looked

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Speaker 3: on the news?

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Speaker 1: It was all right? Yeah. I mean certain areas, it's

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Speaker 1: like the ones that always get messed up got messed up.

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Speaker 1: But like in my.

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Speaker 2: Area, it was pretty good. So did you drive in the.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't driving. I wasn't driving. I was stationary, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Listening to that thirty eight Spech episode, Man,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 2: I feel good about that.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: Finally got to talk to spash Man. He's a good guy.

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Speaker 3: He did the red thing that we love.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: He actually helped promote their episode.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: A lot of artists don't like to do that.

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Speaker 1: Right. That was a good conversation with spash Man, and

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Speaker 1: I'm glad he finally got the time to talk to him.

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Speaker 2: You know, Special Machinery, Yes, sir Special. Should we get

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Speaker 2: these guests?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Be that man who we get in the future. Man,

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Speaker 2: it's time to get to that third quarter, fourth quarter?

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Speaker 2: Getting a little antsy man? Who we looking at in

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Speaker 2: terms of the rap rate our podcast? Roster?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 2: Can we get some big ones?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 2: What you thinking?

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Speaker 1: I mean, Beyonce has a movie out can we get

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Speaker 1: Are you going right to the top? Why not Beyonce

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Speaker 1: in the movie? I mean, Beyonce has a movie. J

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Speaker 1: Cole's Killing features left and Right?

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Speaker 2: So you like that? So you like a Little YACHTI record?

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Speaker 1: Man, like the Little YACHTI record, you know with him

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Speaker 1: and j Cole killed it. I like the Meek Mill

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Speaker 1: and Rick Ross record, you know. So it's some big

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Speaker 1: dogs out here. I think we could finish out strong

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Speaker 1: on some Ariana riverro type is.

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Speaker 3: I think Meek Miller Rick Ross is probably the maybe

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Speaker 3: the safest bet that we would get in the fourth quarter. Man,

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Speaker 3: we go back with those guys a little bit and

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Speaker 3: they're doing the album together, then that might be it.

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Speaker 1: Man, might have to do it in another arena. You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, Man, But Jake Coleman, that's your man. Man, get

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Speaker 2: him on the text or something. Man to talk to

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Speaker 2: cold world.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: Then you go to like high school with going to

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Speaker 2: high school with Man.

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Speaker 1: We had the same ball, but we went to the

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Speaker 1: same barber shop, which is close enough. But yeah, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we gonna make magic happen.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: But this guy today, he's been making magic happen all

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Speaker 1: year long. Man, hit Boy, hit Boy. Yes, I've interview

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Speaker 1: hit Boy man so many times. Man.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how he's never been on the Rap

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Speaker 2: Art of podcast. But here we are. Man. He's amazing, dude.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: This year he's been super prolific to Surfer Drown series.

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Speaker 3: He's got two NAS albums, which is a total motherfucker

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Speaker 3: six NAS albums. Like this guy won't stop and then

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Speaker 3: it pops, Big Hit, Big Hit just came home. He's

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Speaker 3: working on the project. They got album coming out, so

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Speaker 3: I felt it was undeniable. It's time to get hit

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Speaker 3: Boy to sit down with the boys to rap rate

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's the hit squad for real, man. Like he

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Speaker 1: also has contributions on the Don Tolliver Project. He did

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Speaker 1: a whole album with Music Soul Child. He did joints

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Speaker 1: on Travis Scott. I mean, the guy's just not stopping, man,

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Speaker 1: He's not stopping.

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Speaker 2: So he's a good dude.

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Speaker 3: Man, A little that Chauncey Hollis guy, the Holland Crew.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and he's sitting on two diamond songs, so it's

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Speaker 2: But Paris and uh and uh Sycamore diamond singles.

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Speaker 1: Man, it's pretty pretty pretty successful.

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Speaker 2: But as he told us, man, he don't even put

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Speaker 3: Man, you don't put the plaques. He chase those plaques.

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Speaker 3: Man ain't chased nothing like that, man. And it was

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Speaker 3: bussy at the father and son thing.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's ever been done in hip hop

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Speaker 3: the way they're doing it, like a real father son,

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Speaker 3: it up, he said, is anybody done it like that?

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously we used to hype a bird man

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Speaker 3: a little Wayne, but they weren't really daddy and son, right, Even.

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Speaker 2: Though like Father Like Son. That was an incredible album.

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Speaker 3: It was it was It wasn't really fathering Son, but

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Speaker 3: these guys are really blood relation.

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Speaker 3: And then dudes, you know, super youthful looking, look like

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Speaker 3: we say, look a Nipsey Hustle beats.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Big Hit reminds me of like you take

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Speaker 1: Nipsey Hustling prodigy, then you got a big hit.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying exactly the Holland Cruise here

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Speaker 3: th So, Big Hit does make an appearance.

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Speaker 2: Spoiler alert, Big Hit does make an appearance.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: We had to put him on.

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Speaker 3: He just dropped the new visual the day we taped this.

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Speaker 3: The truth is in my eyes, man, powerful visual and

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Speaker 3: that's coming out sooner than you think. Yes, and you're

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Speaker 3: gonna look out for that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And he said, and JPay right, Jay.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna come on JPay first and then it's going

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Speaker 1: to hit the DSPs I think shortly after.

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Speaker 3: So you know he's already a business minded, business minded

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Speaker 3: man as they all are. Man, hit boy, Man, this

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Speaker 3: is gonna be a good one man, Father and Son.

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Speaker 3: Finally Hit Boy on the Raporate our podcast, Let's.

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Speaker 1: Get it Yo, It's the Rap Rate All Podcast my

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Speaker 1: name is beat I Elie Wilson, Ellie. How can we

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Speaker 1: lose with shit like this?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 3: We can't lose, man, Absolutely, I feel like I've talked

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Speaker 2: But so honor man say that he's now.

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Speaker 3: Joining us for the first time finally on the Rap

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Speaker 3: Rate our podcast Hit Boy Boy.

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Speaker 4: When I walked onto the set, I'm like, oh, this

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Speaker 4: is the real Rap Rate all right.

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Speaker 2: Although Elliott his beat out now it's official.

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Speaker 1: Official, but here, you know, as we enter the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 1: it feels like you might be the producer of the year. Man. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I mean if you think about this year a long.

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Speaker 1: We have two NAS albums, Magic two and three. You

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Speaker 1: have two of your own projects, sir for Drownd one

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Speaker 1: and two. We got the music Soul Child album. We

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Speaker 1: Are you tired yet?

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Speaker 4: Man? I'm not. I feel like I'm just warming up man,

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Speaker 4: Like you know me, Like like Elliott said, we've been

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Speaker 4: knowing each other for a minute and when we first met,

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Speaker 4: like that was my days of really literally trying to

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Speaker 4: Like these albums out of artists come through. You know,

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Speaker 4: I'm playing at least ten joints, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 4: And they picking multiple joints off the first rip most

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Speaker 4: an an album or EP or whatever the case may be. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because even when you first get with that joint,

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Speaker 3: you deal with alchemists, and you know you played amiss

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Speaker 3: you have now that's like it's time for you to

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Speaker 4: One for sure, No, I mean you know the game.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's solidbout progression and staying locked in and

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Speaker 1: So you're always just working, no breaks.

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Speaker 4: I mean not really, bro, it's like all day. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I love it. It's really like it's fun. It's like video games. Bro.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how else to put it. Like I

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Speaker 4: But I keep the base of it is just having fun.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like I said, going through the game,

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Speaker 4: and when you focus too much on that, like you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean, versus being like, oh I need

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Speaker 4: to I mean, you know, people, I got a network.

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Speaker 4: I gotta do this. I gotta like the network is

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Speaker 4: gonna come to you what you build, what you you know,

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Speaker 4: what you're supposed to be building.

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Speaker 1: Right, So, what's like the average day for hit boy?

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Speaker 1: Like how many beats are you cranking out?

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Speaker 2: Like a day?

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Speaker 4: as many as I can get out, That's what I do. Like,

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Speaker 4: And just like sometimes I might get twelve joints, sometimes

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Speaker 4: I might only get three, but it's like I just

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Speaker 1: Do you remember like the most cranked out in one day?

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Speaker 4: He mixes albums. Yeah, like that's his primary thing. You know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not the first time you ever engineered somebody.

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Speaker 4: in that span of time, I didn't even realize we

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Speaker 2: What do you look at it?

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Speaker 4: just because it's been coming so fast. It's hard for

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Speaker 1: Did you know that he was gonna do a trilogy?

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Speaker 4: Right right right right? Not even yeah, shit, no exactly

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Speaker 1: But you even empowered yourself this year too. Before we

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Speaker 4: Kind of? Yeah, just to give people because I put

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Speaker 1: But going back to now is with the Magic series,

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's just where he is at, you know

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Speaker 4: Like it's not this is how I feel right now.

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Speaker 4: at this particular moment. And whoever's for they gonna you know,

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Speaker 1: Rock with it, right y'all. Definitely rock with that Magic three.

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Speaker 4: I feel like that was the album I have been

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Speaker 4: It's not gonna be illmatic. It's not gonna be it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they said, like this is a whole like a

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Speaker 3: So you have a NAS sort of beginning illmatic it

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Speaker 4: Crazy, that's big. I mean I never would have I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I think it's not like I see, like

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Speaker 4: Of guys And that was ill? That was man, that

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do you know that nas was naming these albums after

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Speaker 4: Man, nah, they just they just came together. Man. They

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Speaker 4: He had gave people seventeen solo songs on KD three, Like, bro,

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Speaker 1: Do you guys make music for that session? Or they're

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Speaker 4: It might be a small idea that might have been

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, like real locking Magic one though,

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Speaker 1: Remember when I when it dropped, that was do you

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Speaker 4: You put it in your top three hours?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely? I was mad though because it dropped at the

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Speaker 2: For the Children. For the children.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Ugly was like such an important song because people

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Speaker 1: talk about like the state of affairs and stuff like that,

441
00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,160
Speaker 1: and you know, that was just a great moment.

442
00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was bugged out. I had people hitting me

443
00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,440
Speaker 4: up like, yo, y'all, how did you do this magic one?

444
00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,879
Speaker 4: He talking about like stuff that's just dolphin just like

445
00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,440
Speaker 4: all these things that had just been going on. That's

446
00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,760
Speaker 4: how on the cuff this has been, you know what

447
00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,960
Speaker 4: I mean, just like really locking in in.

448
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Speaker 1: A moment, but you really put on for the city

449
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Speaker 1: to a don.

450
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

451
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Speaker 4: I was. Yeah, people from Queen's. I was wondering how

452
00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:50,560
Speaker 4: they was gonna take that.

453
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Speaker 1: At least I went to Queen's guys. So when now

454
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Speaker 1: just saying what he's saying, it's like, oh my gosh,

455
00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,640
Speaker 1: like we got one. You know what I'm saying, felt you.

456
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Speaker 3: Can put your chest out in the bridge absolutely to

457
00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,960
Speaker 3: challenge you to make the hardest birthday song of all time?

458
00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:06,200
Speaker 2: How did you do that?

459
00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,040
Speaker 4: Yeah? He's like, man, I want to drop one from

460
00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:13,320
Speaker 4: our fiftieth man, damn for sure. So you know, I

461
00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,119
Speaker 4: mean I was already in the groove of just making

462
00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,479
Speaker 4: good beats at that moment. So when he came in,

463
00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,359
Speaker 4: like I was chopping it right there, and he like,

464
00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,440
Speaker 4: this is it. This is the joint you.

465
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Speaker 1: Know what I mean, fever joint?

466
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Speaker 2: Do what do you think it was about it? Like,

467
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Speaker 2: because it's like a psychedelic rock sample and stuff like.

468
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's the driving forcing and it's like the

469
00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,399
Speaker 4: groove is just constant, it's moving from even like the

470
00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,280
Speaker 4: chops is like two different chops. But they never they

471
00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:45,399
Speaker 4: never stopped. They never have like a moment of breaking momentum. Yeah.

472
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because a good friend of ours Wayne though.

473
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Speaker 3: Yes, Well, the topic to the uh, I think you've

474
00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,720
Speaker 3: seen on social media about sampling now and the state

475
00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,720
Speaker 3: of things, and I know you probably yourself on taking

476
00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,440
Speaker 3: like you're sampled Eddie Kendrick. You're not using Eddie Ketdrick's

477
00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,639
Speaker 3: record that other people have sample, You're taking another song and.

478
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Speaker 2: Chop it up.

479
00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,080
Speaker 3: Like, can you speak to that about how you're looking

480
00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,119
Speaker 3: at sampling now in the overall landscapecause it seems like

481
00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,520
Speaker 3: a lot of people. It seem like the criticism is

482
00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,520
Speaker 3: that some of the sampling seems lazy and people are

483
00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,680
Speaker 3: just trying to just catch the heat of a record

484
00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:11,399
Speaker 3: that came before it.

485
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Speaker 4: Right now, I feel with Wayno was saying as far

486
00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,400
Speaker 4: as like people taking just a full blown concept as

487
00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,760
Speaker 4: well as the sample too, It's like, you know, to

488
00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,600
Speaker 4: each his own man, like people make music for different reasons,

489
00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,359
Speaker 4: but as far as like my I always just wanted

490
00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,840
Speaker 4: to be like the most creative I could possibly be,

491
00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,960
Speaker 4: So taking somebody's full whatever just ain't for me personally,

492
00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:35,840
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I want to try a

493
00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,439
Speaker 4: sample that people will hear and be like, damn, I

494
00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,240
Speaker 4: got to sam what this is. Like, I'm trying to

495
00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,520
Speaker 4: figure out what it is versus taking like the most

496
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Speaker 4: like a song that's been number one on the charts before,

497
00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:46,600
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

498
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Speaker 1: So you're like actively digging in the crates find obscure.

499
00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,000
Speaker 4: I got all my samples saved from when I started

500
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,080
Speaker 4: making beats in two thousand and three, like I style,

501
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,680
Speaker 4: I had them on CD, but now they're on drives

502
00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,320
Speaker 4: and I've been collecting sounds. So that's what that's twenty

503
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 4: years now.

504
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 1: Wow.

505
00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:06,720
Speaker 3: Wow, place you transform. You buy records and transform them

506
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:07,680
Speaker 3: to I was.

507
00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,840
Speaker 4: Buying CDs and you know, with different sounds on them,

508
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,280
Speaker 4: and I would now I'm trying. I mean, they're transferred

509
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 4: on the drives now, so people don't use CDs.

510
00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,679
Speaker 1: So why after all these years, why is FL Studio

511
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 1: still a weapon of choice?

512
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,200
Speaker 4: Man? I'm just locked in on it, and they keep

513
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,879
Speaker 4: they keep, they keep leveling it up as well. Like

514
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 4: the newest version is like that you can do stuff

515
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,320
Speaker 4: on there that I'm I wish I could, Like I

516
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,239
Speaker 4: would have I had to super manually go in and

517
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 4: do these things and it would take a long time.

518
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,119
Speaker 4: Now it's like instantaneous, you know what I mean, with

519
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,959
Speaker 4: the help with like you know, I'm rocking with the AI,

520
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like as far as implementing

521
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 4: it into your skill set and not using it as

522
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 4: a crutch, but more so like, Okay, damn, they got

523
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 4: some stuff that you can really utilize and take your

524
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 4: whatever you do to the next level.

525
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 1: Right, that's what's up. You're not opposed to embracing the technology.

526
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 4: To a new day. Man was hating on FL when

527
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 4: I was on it all the years. I used to

528
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,439
Speaker 4: be like that ain't real beats and all that. I

529
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 4: heard all that stuff. So yeah, now fl probably is

530
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 4: like the number one most used doll I would say,

531
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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, especially with the youth.

532
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,119
Speaker 1: Right absolutely with that critique. Though when it comes to now,

533
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,639
Speaker 1: it's how do you critique him when you're in the studio?

534
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 2: How do you produce?

535
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:20,639
Speaker 1: Not?

536
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 2: How do you produce not?

537
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,919
Speaker 4: I honestly have to just like start just just like,

538
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 4: you know, I feel like the only way I was

539
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 4: gonna get to be that producer I really want to

540
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 4: be was to just produce him and be honest and

541
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Speaker 4: give my input, you know what I mean? If I

542
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,679
Speaker 4: feel like, man, maybe you should try to move the

543
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 4: second verse to the first verse, you know what I mean,

544
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 4: like just try to shift things around, like or just

545
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Speaker 4: like maybe speed up the flow on this part. Like

546
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 4: I like how you like, you know, it's like just arrangement.

547
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 4: It's like not really critiquing him. It is more so

548
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:52,640
Speaker 4: just being a producer.

549
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, were you apprehensive at first, like trying to orfer advice?

550
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Speaker 4: I mean maybe when we first linked, he was getting

551
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,120
Speaker 4: to know each other, you know, I started to understand

552
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 4: that he was genuinely open to my ideas and open

553
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 4: to me, like, you know, giving us suggestions, you know

554
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 4: what I mean?

555
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: How did y'all meet? Anyway?

556
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 4: We met originally in like twenty thirteen. I did a

557
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 4: demo with Frank Ocean and Frank Ocean played it for Knaves.

558
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 4: He was like, me and Frank had a session of

559
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,199
Speaker 4: our own, were just working on music, and he was like,

560
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 4: he did a hook. He was like, yo, I'm about

561
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 4: to go work with nas. I want to play this

562
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 4: hook for him. So he played him, played it. Naves

563
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 4: was rocking with it. Whatever. That song didn't It actually

564
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 4: did come out on Lost tapes too, but not with

565
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 4: Frank on the hook. Like his lyrics, some of his

566
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 4: lyrics were still there, but he had a girl singing

567
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 4: this joint called Royalty.

568
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: Ye.

569
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 4: So but yeah, fast forward twenty twenty, like Ripe pre COVID,

570
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 4: before it all went down, like we linked up. I

571
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 4: saw my homeboard double in the studio with him and

572
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 4: I was like, bro, you gotta get him over here.

573
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 4: I was like, I got joints right now, I'm sitting

574
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 4: on gold and so he was like no, I said,

575
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 4: he down to come tomorrow. I was like cool, you know,

576
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 4: I didn't think nothing of it. He really pulled up

577
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 4: and really recorded the first day that we linked and

578
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 4: he was like NAS before he left, he was like,

579
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep pulling up rocking with you, and he did.

580
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 1: Wow, what's the first song that you guys recorded?

581
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 4: The first idea we laid down was because I had

582
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 4: to hook with Anderson pack on it for All Bad

583
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 4: off KD one, so yeah, and he wanted it. He

584
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 4: wanted to do like some Valentine's Day type music, Like yeah,

585
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 4: so that's what that's where my head was at. Like

586
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 4: I had the Don Tolliver hook replace me, and then

587
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 4: I had the All Bad joints, so he hopped on.

588
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 2: That's the foundation of it.

589
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: Well earlier this year too, man, you got to perform

590
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: with the God at Madison Square Garden. How was the experience,

591
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: you know, rock in the garden with NAS.

592
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 4: And I was I was just to be in a

593
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 4: garden period, But then hearing fifteen twenty of your beats

594
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 4: playing crazy, that's like damn. Like I've been in MSG

595
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 4: and seen you know, niggas and parents performed or uh

596
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 4: big you know, yeah, exactly different shit, but it's like

597
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 4: to see like that many of my joints played, and

598
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 4: it keep the momentum in the tempo and people show love.

599
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 4: It's like damn, like I gotta keep going.

600
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: That was an amazing Nons performance.

601
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I never seen him so charged up like

602
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 3: I thought. He get it in another like half hour

603
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 3: with like NonStop.

604
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: See rocking the T shirt.

605
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 4: I was there, man, I don't even beat that.

606
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 1: Or and you got to perform composure? Was that the

607
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 1: song you got?

608
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 4: No, I just came out for Michael and Quincy.

609
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: Michael and Quincy, that's right, But you did do composure

610
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 1: like with nas though on the album.

611
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 2: Right.

612
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: Was there any other time that you wanted to hop

613
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: on a song?

614
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 4: Plenty of times, but it's like, you know what I mean,

615
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 4: that's notas you know what I mean. You gotta let

616
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 4: him do his thing. And yeah, we worked on ideas

617
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 4: and got the composure joint. We did the tide Off

618
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 4: Surf Drown one. He showed me love with that, so yeah.

619
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,239
Speaker 1: And then of course Lulu Wayne, he showed a lot

620
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 1: of love man on that Never.

621
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 4: Die No we went. He went crazy like that. Flow

622
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 4: was just relentless to keep the same rhyme scheme the

623
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 4: whole verse. Like I'm like, damn, that's that's why you

624
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 4: at that level.

625
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 2: How did that come together for him to be on

626
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 2: the project?

627
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 4: Man, he sent that verse in like super buzzer beater,

628
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 4: like got added to the I was landing in New

629
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 4: York for the listening party and heard it for the

630
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 4: first time.

631
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 2: Wow.

632
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 4: So yeah, it was last minute, but it was just

633
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 4: he already had the idea when he laid his verse,

634
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 4: he was like, man, we should get Wane on this.

635
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 3: He took the little the light of there's no light

636
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 3: of noise before he wraps his verse. Did you take

637
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 3: that out?

638
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 4: Or maybe my engineer did. I don't know.

639
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 1: It was even better when you got fifty finally officially

640
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 1: on the office side, right, How was that experience for you?

641
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 4: I wanted another eight personally from him, Yeah, sixteen, But

642
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 4: I mean, you know I liked him just talking and ship,

643
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, just just showing love to Nas,

644
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 4: showing love the jungle, like just to see that that

645
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 4: bond like for on that you know, on that for

646
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 4: for for their history, Like it's just ill right.

647
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of ironic, like you and I

648
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: have had such great success, but you didn't really grow

649
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 1: up on NAS's music, Like that right.

650
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 4: Right right, just being from the West Coast being younger

651
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 4: and I heard like the popular song yeah, you know

652
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 4: what I mean. I didn't really dig into like like

653
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 4: the deep Cuts and all that until we start locking in.

654
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: Oh. I was gonna say, like, when did you finally

655
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: like get hit to what album? I guess you gravitated towards.

656
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 4: I mean still still Madic was always my joint, like

657
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 4: I always love that album, but just like digging into

658
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 4: like the stuff that came out in the nineties or

659
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 4: whatever the case was. Was like after we started locking In,

660
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I gotta really you know, this is

661
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 4: an assignment, Like I got to really put some thought

662
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 4: into this and really understand what's going on.

663
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: And growing up in l all. Who are you listening to? Like,

664
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 1: what did you grow up listening to?

665
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 4: Man for Show? My first favorite artist was Snoop Dogg,

666
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 4: My first favorite rapper, I would say, watching you know,

667
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 4: his vhs, listening to his album ice Cube for show,

668
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 4: n W A Dre you know what I mean.

669
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: Definite, So definitely all the West Coast legends, all the

670
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: legends and your uncle. He was in the R and

671
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 1: B groups in the group.

672
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 4: That was my first musical inspiration and just life inspiration

673
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 4: to see that. Okay, it's that level, like you know

674
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 4: what I mean. He was living great and had everything

675
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 4: a young black dude could want me to mean. So

676
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 4: it's like I saw that side of it, and uh

677
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 4: was inspired by that.

678
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: And be clear that group is true. There wasn't no.

679
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 4: Clear they had They had joints, crazy videos, they had style,

680
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 4: they could dance all like.

681
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: So I guess that he was more of the inspiration

682
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 1: of like putting you onto new music, Like how did

683
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 1: you get exposed?

684
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the first time I heard NWA was

685
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 4: in his car. I remember that. I was probably four

686
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 4: or five years old, and just the music, the way

687
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 4: them beats, them drum breaks and all that was hidden.

688
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 4: I know what that was at the time, but I

689
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 4: knew that it felt epic and just the way they

690
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 4: was talking to Voguer conversation. Hearing it at that young

691
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 4: of an age that it was like watching a movie.

692
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and plus being in LA you get to see

693
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: it in real time.

694
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 2: Right.

695
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: But also your mom had an influence too, right. She

696
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: was like one of the first people that believed in.

697
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 4: You for sure. Yeah, I mean she she just kind

698
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 4: of empowered me in the sense of just let me

699
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 4: do my thing. Like she I was fifteen sixteen in

700
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 4: the crib making music, and she would let me to

701
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 4: the point where like family members or her friends would

702
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 4: come over and be like, why you let him make

703
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 4: all that noise back there, you know what I mean?

704
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 4: And she was just happy that I was in the

705
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 4: crib and I was doing something.

706
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: Productive, right, You brought you like your first equipment.

707
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 4: Man, Actually, my grandma, my dad's mom bought me my

708
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 4: first computer that I had fl on, and then my

709
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 4: mom had got me some speakers. My whole family pretty

710
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 4: much chipped in and just gave me different pieces that

711
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 4: I needed that was like real important for me to

712
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 4: have at that time.

713
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, right, because I know that

714
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: eventually he started selling beats for the porno guys and

715
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: stuff like that.

716
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 4: Man, right, my my cousin rest in peace. Fashion. Man,

717
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 4: he did a lot of stuff though he used to

718
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 4: work for ninety two point three to beat when this

719
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 4: dude THEO was on ninety two point three time, for sure, yeah,

720
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 4: he like so he had come around the family and

721
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 4: like had pictures with celebrities and all types of shit,

722
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 4: and like I just looked at him with a certain respect.

723
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 4: But then you know, he was also a photographer, he

724
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 4: did video. This all in the nineties and when I

725
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 4: turned eighteen, I remember he uh that's when he started

726
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 4: directing adult films, and he was like, I'm gonna need beats.

727
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 4: I'm gonna need beats. He's like, I can get with

728
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 4: like a thousand of beat type shit. And I definitely

729
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 4: sold them a few beats.

730
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: And that's like in the early two thousands.

731
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like a two thousand four two thousand.

732
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: Thousand dollars one a long way back in those days.

733
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, for sure, I was helping my mom pay

734
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 4: rent and all that.

735
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 2: Eighteen Yeah, but speak to the points of big money.

736
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 3: You also was very clear recent interviews that you went

737
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 3: you some real financial hard times and you got yourself

738
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: into control of your career. Can you speak more about that, like,

739
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 3: how did you How does somebody who kind of like

740
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 3: you know, gets recognized you have all these hit records,

741
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 3: but then the money's not where it needs to be.

742
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 3: How do you recover from that? How do you rebuild?

743
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 4: Yeah? Put it in more in context. It's like I

744
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 4: had money out there, like I had you know, different

745
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 4: label checks or placement checks, and it just was to

746
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 4: the point where I was just so over the industry,

747
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 4: noess of everything. I went from having a team management assistance,

748
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 4: and mad people around me and different artists signing me,

749
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 4: everybody just around me all the time at the same

750
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 4: time to having nobody around me just because I had

751
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 4: been so I don't know if you want to call

752
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 4: it jaded or whatever the case is, but I just

753
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 4: was at that point where I was over the industry.

754
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 4: But it was kind of detrimental in the fact that

755
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 4: I wasn't staying in touch with the people that owed

756
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 4: me money, so like I wasn't really broke, but I

757
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 4: was to the point where I didn't have the dollars

758
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 4: in my account at that particular time. But it's crazy

759
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 4: because that's what led me to even the NAS albums.

760
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 4: Always from like twenty twelve till that time in twenty seventeen,

761
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 4: had my studios at my crib, and that's when it

762
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 4: was just that was half the reason. My brain just

763
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 4: was like it was too much to keep up with

764
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 4: trying to be a hot producer, trying to work on

765
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 4: my own artistry, trying to produce for all my artists,

766
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,719
Speaker 4: do all these things, and it's like it's just too

767
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 4: much to handle for a twenty four year old, you

768
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So fast forward, I got to

769
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 4: that point and I was like, after that call with

770
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 4: my account, I'm like, I'm moving my studio out of

771
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 4: my crib. I'm gonna get a real studio that's conducive

772
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 4: to the you know product. And that's when I ended

773
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 4: up getting the opportunity to move to the studio I'm

774
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 4: at now, Yeah, exactly. So I went to Child It's

775
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 4: like top of twenty eighteen, been there since then, and

776
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 4: it's just bruh, Like you know what I man, shit,

777
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 4: just like catching racks in the middle, catching uh, you know,

778
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 4: executive producing Detroit two for Sean, doing a co project,

779
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 4: a collapse project with Sean, doing the NAS albums, doing music,

780
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 4: Soul Child album. This is all in these last few

781
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 4: years after I moved the Childice and just like, let

782
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 4: me just go back to the hit boy I was

783
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 4: when I was just in that room and I wasn't

784
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 4: thinking about no industry shit. I'm just like, let me

785
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 4: just max out on the music. In the fact that

786
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 4: I got way better to the point where I can

787
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 4: make music that's impressing me genuinely. I'm like, let me,

788
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 4: let me take it to that level. Yeah.

789
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: And speaking of to the businessman, you made headlines recently

790
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: for the work on Travis Scott's album. Work got out

791
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: that you're selling part of the publishing that you do,

792
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: right Nah.

793
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 4: That started out honestly as a joke. I'm in the

794
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 4: in the studio with my manager with the homies, with

795
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 4: my pops, and I'm like just laughing, like, y'all bet

796
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 4: you I could put this on eBay and make more

797
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 4: money than the label is trying to pay me for

798
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 4: my actual work on at Travis and Beyonce song And

799
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 4: right now it's pretty much overdouble what they're trying to

800
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 4: pay me. That shouldn't even been papered up. I don't

801
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 4: even have PAPERWORKO.

802
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 3: Okay, So because you did a small portion of it

803
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: that they use is at the issue?

804
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess so as far as the feed,

805
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 4: But you know, it's like it is what it is. Like,

806
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 4: I feel like it's just you could have just erased

807
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 4: my part if you was going diminish you know, me

808
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 4: to the to this point. But it's like it's just funny,

809
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 4: like how the industry is That's that goes back to

810
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 4: what I've been saying this whole time, just like I

811
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 4: can't really take the industry side of this ship, man.

812
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 4: So it's like I've already made more money off eBay

813
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 4: then I'm making for producers for Travis. Like what else

814
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 4: can you say?

815
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 2: What it is?

816
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 4: What it is?

817
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, people, I don't think myself the hell. I don't

818
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 2: think people understood that. They didn't get that explain.

819
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 4: It was a joke. But it's like, damn, this ship

820
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 4: is actually like people really betting on this joint. It's

821
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 4: like hundreds of people tapping here, you know what I mean.

822
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 4: I try to have something I had, somebody DM me

823
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 4: like theyre trying to trade me stuff. Somebody tried to

824
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 4: trade me some Travis Scott Jordan's for some Travis Scott

825
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 4: published and I'm like, come on, man, that's hilarious.

826
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 2: But I like about you too.

827
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,479
Speaker 3: In social media, you give it up like you speak

828
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 3: about how you fund at the time, like they tweet it.

829
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 2: Like nobody likes each other.

830
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 4: Like I've been around. I've been around all of them.

831
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 4: They all talk crazy about each other. I'm not putting

832
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 4: their names out there, but yeah, it's just like it's

833
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 4: the music business. But it's like I feel like just

834
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 4: in general, like a lot of artists don't like other artists,

835
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 4: a lot of producers don't like other producers, Directors don't

836
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 4: like other directors, and it's like it's an ego thing.

837
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 4: It saw that, it's an insecurity thing, whatever the case

838
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 4: may be. But it's room for everybody to do their thing.

839
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 4: Everybody got their lane. Like you know what I mean,

840
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 4: I ain't trying to step in nobody. Shit, I'm just

841
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,439
Speaker 4: doing the best I can with what I got going.

842
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: Are you and Kanye in a good place?

843
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 4: Man?

844
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: Because a composure to you said that you know, he

845
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: told you your face that he was trying to hold

846
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: you back.

847
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 4: Right he did. That was the only one of the last

848
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 4: times we was really kicking it like that around when

849
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 4: we did Easy for Game. And I have nothing against

850
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 4: Kanye at all. I really, I really think he's one

851
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 4: of the funniest people ever, Like, but unintentionally, you're not

852
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 4: even trying to be he just it's expressive and he

853
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 4: says what you want to say, so it's just funny.

854
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 4: But no, man, I mean, I don't even want to

855
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 4: go there. Man, it's all love.

856
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: Congratulations niggas and parents that go diamond.

857
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 4: Really this shit, sir, Nah, that's solid man, for sure.

858
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 4: I feel like that song go platinum, another platinum every

859
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 4: year and I have two years, Like I feel like

860
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 4: it's never don't stop.

861
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: How did you celebrate when you got the word about it.

862
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 4: I was just making more beats. They don't really be

863
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. That's cool, but I'm like,

864
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 4: what's next?

865
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 2: Man?

866
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 4: That's my That's my whole thing right now. I'm like

867
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 4: every beat I make, I'm like cool that shit all.

868
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 4: I'm straight to the next beat. Versus back in the day,

869
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,479
Speaker 4: I probably kick back, you know what I mean. Like, Nah,

870
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 4: I'm as many as I can get out in the day.

871
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 4: That's what I'm on.

872
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: But you got to think about it. Reflect right, as

873
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: illustrious as jay Z's career is, you gave him his

874
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: first Diamond song.

875
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 4: I didn't even I couldn't even explain that one. Like Damn,

876
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 4: that's crazy to me. You would think he got mad diamond, right,

877
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? But they are dimon They

878
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 4: hood domin real nigga diamond, you know what I mean,

879
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 4: Like real real ones know what's up and.

880
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: You're working with another Carter missus Beyonce. Yeah, I'm going

881
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: back to twenty twenty two. You know he produced a

882
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: song thick off the Renaissance Project. Did you have be

883
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: in mind when you when you created that song?

884
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 4: When I created that beat, I actually did have her

885
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 4: in mind, But I created the bet in twenty fourteen

886
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 4: before some sessions that she invited me to. She had

887
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 4: some sessions in LA and invited me to come work,

888
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 4: and that was one of the beats that I was

889
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 4: in the original batch that I made to present to her,

890
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 4: and she kept it from twenty fourteen too. She dropped

891
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 4: it on Renaissance.

892
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 6: Yup.

893
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: Wow, So did you forge? Did you forget about that record?

894
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 2: I don't.

895
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 4: I don't really forget about it, cause I'd be like

896
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 4: I I I go through all my beats, I would

897
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 4: hear it here and there, Like I like, I got

898
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 4: thousands of joints. But sometimes I'll be trying to find

899
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 4: something and just I still find go through the files

900
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 4: and I'll click on Niggas in Pairs, Goldie, I'll click

901
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 4: on the back Seat Freestyle, so they all just still

902
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 4: there in the in the files. So I would hear

903
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 4: it here and there and be like, damn, I know

904
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 4: we got something crazy to this. But then when it

905
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 4: finally came to fruition, she invited me to come hear

906
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 4: the song before it came out, and I'm like, yeah,

907
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 4: that's that. She took it to that that real level, you.

908
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: Know what I mean. Were you with the were you

909
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: down with the fans for the Justice for Thick movement

910
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: on the tour?

911
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 6: Oh?

912
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 4: Man, I was I'm not even hip like that.

913
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, I think it's one of the

914
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: most popular records on Renaissance, right, but she didn't perform

915
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 1: it on the set list, so some fans were like, justice,

916
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: I don't even She ended up performing a couple of days,

917
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: but it was like a whole movie that t shirts

918
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: and people were people were voting.

919
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 4: That's a good one though, especially for the joints. They

920
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 4: all love it.

921
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: But we loving you on your own music too, man.

922
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: Like I said earlier, you know, you got Surfer Drowned one.

923
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: She just had Surf for Drowned to your other project

924
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: that you put off this ship with your dad. You

925
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: posed the question that it's just the first father and son.

926
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if littl Wayne and Birdman count not Blood.

927
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I can't even explain it, can't put

928
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 4: it into words. Like we've been, you know, talking about

929
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 4: doing this, talking about locking in, but you know, obviously

930
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 4: he got locked back up. We were starting to do it,

931
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 4: was starting to get some momentium before he went back

932
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 4: in and for him to touch down, like we dropped

933
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 4: several drownd two Like a month later he was on

934
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 4: nine out of ten songs. So that just was like,

935
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 4: let me catch all up to speed, Like, let y'all

936
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 4: know that we're still serious about it and that we

937
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 4: like we're still moving so and he never put out

938
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 4: a solo album and we're working on it right now.

939
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 4: And I feel like it's some of my best works,

940
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 4: some of it, you know, his best work, and it's

941
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 4: gonna be I feel like a good staple for the

942
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,240
Speaker 4: West Coast. Like it's bringing that authentic, you know, gangster

943
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 4: energy back absolutely.

944
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: And what's about what's what's the what's the status with

945
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: you and the Alchemist man? Like what's all right?

946
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 4: Man? That's like, yeah, that's that's that's some stuff. Were

947
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 4: working on some cool stuff.

948
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: Man.

949
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 4: We got we got a lot of music. We're just

950
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 4: putting some things around it. That's just gonna like really

951
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 4: bring people into a world. Like so I'm excited about that.

952
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 2: Well, you're wrapping over each other's beac, you're running over.

953
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 4: All that. We're putting our beat together and getting different

954
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 4: artists on him with us not even rapping on him

955
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 4: or just like we just mixing it up, we having

956
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 4: fun with it out. That's that's that guy right there.

957
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 5: Man.

958
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, how did that? Does the original thing come together?

959
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 2: How did that whole?

960
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 4: I mean, we always have been cool. We always have

961
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 4: been cool. We always have been talking about linking up.

962
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 4: And I remember seeing some clips of him going viral

963
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 4: on stage performing with Larry June, and he was like,

964
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 4: people like, yo, I need to hear more alchemists. So

965
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 4: I'm just riding in the car one day and I

966
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 4: just thought of that idea. I was like, yo, I

967
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 4: should do like a control type of verse over an

968
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 4: alchemist joint and have him rap over one of my joints.

969
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 4: But I never really seen nothing like that. And then

970
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 4: when I told him the idea, he just was all

971
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 4: he was with him, He was all four you know

972
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 4: what I mean, from the song to the video idea,

973
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 4: Like he just was, you know, rocking with the vision,

974
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 4: so saluted him for that.

975
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: It's surprised a lot of people, Like I think people

976
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: didn't know that Alchemists started off as a rapper.

977
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 4: Yeah for real, Nah, that's crazy. He been doing this.

978
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 4: He was young and like sure, like I don't know

979
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 4: how old he was. We looked like he was thirteen

980
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 4: fourteen exactly.

981
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, But do you think produce sometimes it underrated, Like

982
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 3: we're not seriously, you take your bars, but like sometimes

983
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 3: if somebody so weird a producer, they may not get

984
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 3: that credit as much for the for the rapping.

985
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 4: Yeah for sure. I mean, you know, it happens, but

986
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 4: that's just part of the game. I just feel like

987
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 4: producers in general just are not because we don't we

988
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 4: like as far as the artists, right, like they get

989
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 4: a hit, they get the market in, they'll be all

990
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 4: their faces everywhere, So producers don't get that fan fare

991
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 4: on the same level. Even though we're doing half for

992
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 4: the job. It makes it feel like we're doing teen

993
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 4: percent of the job of you know, the way you know,

994
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 4: the world views it and the way it goes down

995
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 4: and just even with the we having to put my

996
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 4: shit on eBay, you know what, I mean, it's like, damn,

997
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 4: Like I'm still in that position where a label would

998
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 4: be like, let's low ball hit boy.

999
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 6: You know what I mean.

1000
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: Crazy, So you still feel like you have to prove yourself.

1001
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 4: Every day, every day. It is just is what it

1002
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 4: is at this point.

1003
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: Life after jay Z Freestyle, Right.

1004
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 4: It's a lot of great things though too, you know,

1005
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 4: so you gotta take the good with the bad and

1006
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 4: just you know, understand more and more how to navigate

1007
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 4: and and just like create your own world.

1008
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing too.

1009
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 3: You have a world now, so you don't have to

1010
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 3: chase after It seems like whoever the hot rapper.

1011
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: Is, blah blah.

1012
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 3: Are there any artists out unrelated to you that caught

1013
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 3: your eye in terms of like like in their music

1014
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 3: or things that caught you ob recently?

1015
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, this dude, Benjamin Earl Turner, he got he got

1016
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 4: like dope visuals and some cool music. Man, I listen

1017
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 4: to so much ship and when people ask me these questions,

1018
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 4: I'll be blinking. I'm down to work with whoever. I'm

1019
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 4: down to work with the sexy red you know what

1020
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 4: I mean. Like she pulled up to the studio one

1021
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 4: time and she met pops and all that, and uh,

1022
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 4: play some joints, but yeah, I really want to tap

1023
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 4: in with her.

1024
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 2: I try to tell beat that about sexy sexy look

1025
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 2: at it.

1026
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: I'm from the show Me state, you know what I mean.

1027
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 4: I got some up, but you know I got some

1028
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,919
Speaker 4: stuff coming with Rhapsody, some real you know, hard rap

1029
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 4: female ship, you know what I mean. Yeah, I'm just

1030
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 4: locked in or whoever really want to work?

1031
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: What else you got come and be?

1032
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 4: Hey, man, bro the Alchemist shit. Definitely big hit album

1033
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 4: Surfer Drowned three, but that's gonna be next year, so

1034
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 4: I have to take it to that complete level. Actually,

1035
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 4: you know what I'm leaving out the homie who is

1036
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 4: super talented, My nigga, Denzel Curry. We got like probably

1037
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 4: twelve thirteen joints in the stats right now. That's crash.

1038
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 4: He even got me rapping. Yeah, really for sure.

1039
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 2: He's locked and came to Chalice all locked in.

1040
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: Wow, you got busy on that Tony Fontana floid though, Man,

1041
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: what a part five on the way as well?

1042
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 4: Man, I might as well close it out right right right,

1043
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 4: got finished, got to follow through, man.

1044
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: And on Sunrise he had your own moment too. On

1045
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: surfing draft. We talked about it earlier, like this got

1046
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: a big hit man, that's your dad.

1047
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, people still don't even be believing it. Man too young,

1048
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 4: I mean, but you know he's uh a lot of

1049
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 4: his youth got ribbed from him, like you know, getting

1050
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 4: going getting locked up at nineteen, staying in there to

1051
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 4: what however, he was thirty something and uh yeah that's

1052
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 4: ship I mean. But I mean he preserved itself and

1053
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 4: he fucking he owned it, like he got that voice. Man.

1054
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 4: Like I feel like this is one of the first

1055
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 4: like full voice rappers from the West Coast since Nipsey,

1056
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like Nipsey wrapped at the

1057
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 4: top of his register when he rapped, and so you

1058
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 4: could really feel it. You're punching. Big Hitter is on

1059
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 4: the same thing, you know what I mean. So we

1060
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 4: just like continue you want a tradition and just trying

1061
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 4: to add our flair onto it.

1062
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1063
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: I got hip to him grinding all my life, and

1064
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 1: I could have believed he said it.

1065
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 4: I'm your father, and I was like, lying, that's funny.

1066
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: But what's it like seeing him like gain fans and becomes.

1067
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 4: His own ill man, like just being out people want

1068
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 4: to take pictures and shit like yo, big hit, like

1069
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 4: it's crazy man, And uh, it's just dope that we

1070
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 4: got this lane in this avenue because the street shit

1071
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 4: is authentically in him. It's not like a fake like

1072
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 4: it's like that should be calling him and mother if

1073
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 4: you're trying to get him to go jump back into

1074
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 4: certain lanes where it's like we got to just take

1075
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 4: the slow roll right now and just get it all

1076
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 4: the legal way, you know what I mean. And he

1077
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 4: been dedicated to it being locked in. He had the

1078
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 4: studio doing five six songs a day. Now he got

1079
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 4: he like attracted mad different you know, energies to the studio,

1080
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 4: rappers and just you know people that's inspired by what

1081
00:45:59,400 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 4: he doing.

1082
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, since we talk about big Head,

1083
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: let's get his perspective. Man, word up. He goes, yeah, bro, yes, sir,

1084
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: there you go. You know, Larry June said I could

1085
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: change in sixty days, but for you, it's ninety days

1086
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 1: since you've been home.

1087
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 5: I bought about a hundred ball hundred twenty.

1088
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 4: It's moving.

1089
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 6: I felt like ten years.

1090
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: Are you adjusting everything big here?

1091
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm really not.

1092
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 5: I'm just taking it and flighting taking flight and you

1093
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 5: know I'm setting the tone and.

1094
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: You have your own project on the way. Yeah, yep,

1095
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: can you talk about that.

1096
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 5: I mean this I'm on like my tenth project for

1097
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 5: double about the first project, like the first week I

1098
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 5: was out, So I mean they've just been you know,

1099
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 5: sharpening it up. Yeah, you know, I met little details, right, Yeah.

1100
00:46:58,520 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 1: The truth is in my eyes.

1101
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, the truth is behind that.

1102
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: Oh man, it's just and you design it yourself, right,

1103
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: It's just.

1104
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 6: The real man, God is self explanatory.

1105
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 4: You know.

1106
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 6: The pain my nigga is undeniable. You know what I'm saying.

1107
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 5: It's certain things I kind of wear my I kind

1108
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 5: of wear my emotions on my sleeve.

1109
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: You know.

1110
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 2: I don't.

1111
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 6: I don't do too.

1112
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 5: Good at ah expressing myself and holding things back like

1113
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 5: I just you know, sometimes I overly express myself. That's

1114
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 5: my sometimes my gift and my curse keeping it too real.

1115
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's what it is. And you're releasing it

1116
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: first on JP. Right.

1117
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,720
Speaker 6: Well that's a good question.

1118
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 4: But just to give back to you know what, I mean,

1119
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 4: to get some hope to the dudes on the inside

1120
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 4: that you know it might be finna touch down like then,

1121
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 4: what I'm gonna do not You could see somebody in

1122
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 4: that really went through that same struggle, like you know

1123
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 4: what I mean, yeah for sure doing anything.

1124
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 5: Were still tapped in with all my all my goons

1125
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 5: in jail, man, shout out to everybody. Locked up man,

1126
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 5: stay strong, my nigga, Stay focused, stay prayed up. You

1127
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 5: know I'm saying, state, stay energetic, state moving man, and

1128
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 5: stay positive and don't let nobody, you know, crush your dreams, man,

1129
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 5: because I don't give a fuck what situation you facing.

1130
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 6: You can always get up out of it.

1131
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: Man.

1132
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 5: It's a little pole in every situation. Man, Keep pushing,

1133
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 5: keep fighting, and.

1134
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 3: You know you stay focused the thinking when you're coming out,

1135
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 3: you're gonna hit the ground running the way you are

1136
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 3: make this music right.

1137
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, I mean it's a struggle man, trying to

1138
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 5: not to even jump back in the game, like you know,

1139
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 5: because this is a whole different game. It's slows held

1140
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 5: and you know, you gotta have a lot of patience man,

1141
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 5: and you gotta be dedicated. You gotta really want it.

1142
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 5: You gotta just live it. This is a way of life.

1143
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 5: You can't look at like no money. You know what

1144
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 5: I'm saying, is what it is?

1145
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: Right, you came from the Penn Street to boards and

1146
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 1: Tom Squid. Oh god, how was that? What was that feeling?

1147
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 6: Like amazing?

1148
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 5: It was like I can't even explain it, you know

1149
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, It's a feeling that's like, damn, it's

1150
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 5: dream come true. You know you manifested, always dreamed it

1151
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 5: in my head, always visualized it, you know, saying me

1152
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 5: and him, you know up there up that top. Just

1153
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 5: there's no limit. And like I say, it's just the

1154
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 5: beginning anyway, So ain't no telling where we're going with

1155
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 5: this finished. It's all off the cuff, man, like we

1156
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 5: funding this ship, like you know what I mean, We

1157
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 5: just like coming with the ideas doing all this in house,

1158
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 5: like just going bro letting it just come as it

1159
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 5: may like. And it's it's just like real people tapping in,

1160
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 5: Like I'll be seeing him get more engagement than rappers.

1161
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 4: It's been out like it's like real people. And it's

1162
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 4: comments you know that that relate to the struggle or

1163
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 4: relate to the story or whatever the case is. That's

1164
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 4: what's so dope. Like we ain't come out trying to

1165
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 4: Oh we need him to, we need to buy a

1166
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 4: million followers for him. It's like it's all come in.

1167
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 4: This is all organic organic.

1168
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 1: Ya talk about that relationship a lot on the grinding

1169
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 1: my life part too, you know, like from the visits

1170
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: and sneaking stuff into the into the dance floor, the

1171
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: visiting room, things like that, right, Like was it hard

1172
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: to reveal so much?

1173
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 4: Nah? Really, I feel like we both transparent people, you

1174
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,439
Speaker 4: know what I mean? So we we wanna we wanna

1175
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 4: give people the authentic every time, Like this is what

1176
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 4: went down, you know what I mean. We ain't gotta

1177
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 4: put no extras on it. It just is what it is.

1178
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, I I ain't really wanna do it. There's

1179
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 6: a lot of stuff. Be reluctant, kind of feel bad.

1180
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 5: I ain't really proud of the shit, you know what

1181
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 5: I'm saying, But just had to do what had to do.

1182
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 5: The Slavakas, right, weren't nobody sending me shit? So mm oh,

1183
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 5: you know, you gotta do what you gotta do. Man,

1184
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 5: It's just the family ties is is deeper than what

1185
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 5: you know anybody can explain.

1186
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 6: Man.

1187
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 5: It's it's you know, the extent that anybody will go

1188
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 5: through the pain that they see, is they don't really

1189
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 5: give a fuck. They'll break the law, they'll kill somebody,

1190
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 5: whatever they you know what I'm saying. So y, yeah,

1191
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 5: that's that's real family, tis man. That everybody's feeling, you

1192
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, regardless if it was breaking.

1193
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,720
Speaker 6: The law or even doing whatever. You know what I'm saying.

1194
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 5: But a lot of things, money came by, you know

1195
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. That was my medication, you know what

1196
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,240
Speaker 5: I'm saying, for me not to snap to do whatever

1197
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 5: I was doing.

1198
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: You know.

1199
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 3: But yeah, you remember the moment that finally kind of

1200
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 3: hits you that you realized that it was outside and

1201
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 3: was really elevating in this business and your son's becoming

1202
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 3: really like looked at as one of the best producers

1203
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 3: in the game, and shaking Ship.

1204
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: I was.

1205
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 5: I was locked up in the hole and getting transferred,

1206
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 5: and I was listening to some music and R and

1207
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 5: R getting transferred and I'm hearing Travis Scott slapping and

1208
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 5: I'm like, damn, I was, I've been heard it. And

1209
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 5: then when I finally got to a situation, I didn't

1210
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 5: hear Ship, you know, for about six seven months in

1211
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 5: the whole isolated, And that was around that time and

1212
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 5: I found out like damn, okay, yeah that part right there, yep,

1213
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 5: So you know, I start working. I don't know the

1214
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 5: h yeah, the sickle Mode. Oh yeah, yeah, that was

1215
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 5: my that was one of my favorites. I didn't even

1216
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 5: know he did it.

1217
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1218
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 1: Two Dominant album, two Dimond Records. Right all right, there

1219
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: you go.

1220
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 4: About that blessing.

1221
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 2: You put the plaques in the whole, in the in

1222
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 2: the study.

1223
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 4: And I ain't bro I probably got fifty sixty plaques

1224
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 4: that I ain't even collected yet. I got so many plaques.

1225
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 4: I ain't been focused on that part of the game.

1226
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 4: I've been focusing on running them up. So like when

1227
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 4: I when I do go get my plaque, just probably

1228
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 4: put one hundred of them joints. So you know what

1229
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 4: I mean. I got a gang of them already, but

1230
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 4: I haven't collected none in years.

1231
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: How do you feel about the comparisons, like people liking

1232
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 1: you to like Nipsey? You know that's like big shoots

1233
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: to feel, especially out here on the West coast.

1234
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 5: Oh man ship, Uh, I mean shit, it's a it's

1235
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 5: an honor, I guess you know what I'm saying. It

1236
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 5: was cool men nips like I met Nip. You know

1237
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 5: when I at the time, I didn't know he was Nip.

1238
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

1239
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 5: We was on one O six in Park and they

1240
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 5: was doing some ship like they did a song whatever.

1241
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: You know.

1242
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 5: He pushed up on me like what up, Like like man,

1243
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 5: your boy, like that's my real one, Like I fuck

1244
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 5: with him. I'm like, y'all, you know, Nigga stepped in

1245
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 5: front of me, like nah, I fuck with him in

1246
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 5: a real way, like Nigga.

1247
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, I ain't know who he was,

1248
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Like.

1249
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 5: He pushed on the state they did whatever they did,

1250
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 5: but I got locked up.

1251
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: You know.

1252
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 5: That's when I found out really who he was, when

1253
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 5: they hit me asking to do the grind in my

1254
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 5: whole life, you know what I'm saying.

1255
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 6: I seen all my life ship ship is on me.

1256
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean it's it's cool, man. I mean

1257
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 5: I wish he was here, man, so I already know

1258
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 5: where where the shipped on the game for real.

1259
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: Definitely would have connected at some point.

1260
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 4: And when I linked up to do racks in the

1261
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 4: middle with Nip, one of the first things he asked

1262
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 4: me was how it Pops, you know what I mean,

1263
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 4: Like he made sure to stay tapped in with me

1264
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 4: every time I linked with him, Like make sure Pops

1265
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 4: a straight type ship, you know what I mean.

1266
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 5: Man, nipples, Like when I brushed my teeth to G's

1267
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 5: on cry on me every morning, like I'm a fan

1268
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 5: type ship.

1269
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 6: And I'm like, all if.

1270
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 5: I knew he was nip at the time, you like,

1271
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 5: damn my nigga, let me get let me get on

1272
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 5: the song.

1273
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 6: And so I was just.

1274
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 5: Brushing him off, like, yeah, I know this nigga's crib

1275
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 5: like I like, but I know how tight they was

1276
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:17,760
Speaker 5: and I never heard him rap.

1277
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. So I was sleep.

1278
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: Are you excited to perform hit some of the cities

1279
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: and stuff like that?

1280
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 4: Man?

1281
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 6: Absolutely?

1282
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 4: You just did the Las Vegas.

1283
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:30,959
Speaker 1: Conway put you out right?

1284
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 6: Uh, Jayworthy?

1285
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: It was it was Worthy.

1286
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 4: That was a different show. Show brought and Jay Worthy

1287
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 4: brought his mind and they just did the low Rider

1288
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 4: show out there in Vegas.

1289
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I watch out for the Riders record was hard.

1290
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 5: Shout out with me, jay Worthy, Shout out jay Worthy.

1291
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 4: Walk.

1292
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: I know you critique nows like you said earlier, hip boy,

1293
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: but how do you critique your father when it comes

1294
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: to the music.

1295
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 4: Man, same way. Man, I'm gonna just keep it honest

1296
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 4: and just like you know what I mean, he had

1297
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 4: creative so he opened the creative ideas and we uh,

1298
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 4: we just get it to that finish line. Man, that's

1299
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 4: my whole thing. Like I'm gonna be open your ideas,

1300
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 4: you'll be open the mind, and let's just make this

1301
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 4: record the code as we can. For Shure, I'll do

1302
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 4: the same thing like take versus, move ship around something

1303
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 4: that he may not have looked at as the hook.

1304
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 4: Make that the hook, you know what i mean, Like

1305
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 4: just really utilizing my ear right.

1306
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Speaker 1: It's so weird because your guys more like brothers than fathers.

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Speaker 5: Crazy man, for real, way about ninety days, you finna

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Speaker 5: get you.

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00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 1: He's gonna be bigger than me.

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00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 4: It's time for that journey.

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00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 2: What's the key to the youth? Man saying? How you

1312
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 2: feel you look?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 2: What's the secret man?

1315
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:38,959
Speaker 6: Man?

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00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 5: Jehovah Man, I guess secret man. You know a lot

1317
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 5: of vegetables, fruits, man, Try to stay working out off

1318
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 5: the cayenne pepper, all that mayor jinger.

1319
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, I'm off.

1320
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: It can't workout playing man, yea, for real, you're for

1321
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: the West Coast? What did you grow up listening to.

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00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,760
Speaker 5: Oh Man ship everything man back in the days shop?

1323
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: I mean I was. I was.

1324
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 5: I can remember being in out sitting on my daddy

1325
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 5: left slapping. Uh uh, don't push me because close to it.

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00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 5: Oh God, yeah, yep that I mean. Then I grew

1327
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 5: up off the krs. You know cars one. My nigga

1328
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 5: bears Marky. He just your lover her like n w

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00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:30,479
Speaker 5: A like real.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1331
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 5: African bomb body stumping on the earth for my big

1332
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 5: black boost.

1333
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 4: That exactly was Uncle Jam's army.

1335
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 5: Jam's army, My nigga like was just West Coast like

1336
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 5: just a movement. You know what I'm saying with Ka

1337
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 5: and KGFJ. You know what I'm saying with Bobby, Jimmy

1338
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 5: and all them. It was a it was a radio

1339
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 5: station my nigga was. They was booming. Uncle Jam's army

1340
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 5: used to come and just I used to sneak out

1341
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 5: the house. Nigga tied my sheets together and climb out

1342
00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 5: the window.

1343
00:56:58,719 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

1344
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 5: Still ours nigga with the school driver really pushing to

1345
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 5: go to these functions.

1346
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 6: What I'm saying the year young nigga, Like we used to.

1347
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 3: Be jealous in the East coast because k was the

1348
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 3: West coast state, but they was first to play hip

1349
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 3: hop twenty four hours, Like oh, ma couldn't play hip

1350
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 3: hop two o'clock.

1351
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 2: Of the afternoon till ninety seven. All that came along.

1352
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 3: It was jealous, are like, oh mad like lay they

1353
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 3: can hear hip hop all day?

1354
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 4: What year was that?

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00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 6: But it was staticky though it was late eighties fifteen K.

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00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it.

1357
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 5: Was like eight late eighties when it first eighties like

1358
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 5: eighty three, eighty two early on.

1359
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and we never had that. We only had

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00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 2: our rap shows at night.

1361
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 6: Eighty four to eighty five all through there.

1362
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 5: But it was young yep. Yeah, it was born as

1363
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 5: hip hop was hip hop pop like and right down all.

1364
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 2: But speaking of Thisty, I really don't think there's a

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00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 2: real father son. There's nothing ever been anything like to

1366
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 2: say about history for me.

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00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 4: I mean I feel like, uh, you know, you can

1368
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 4: look at people that may have put themselves in position

1369
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 4: and then pulled up their son, but it's like Conne Reverse.

1370
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 4: This time, I've been doing my thing and the music

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00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 4: getting established, and now I'm helping you know, him to

1372
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 4: get known through what I'm doing as well. So it's

1373
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 4: like it's a good trade off man Like, and he

1374
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 4: really dedicated. Like everybody who pull up, like it's like,

1375
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 4: you know, shout out to homie Killer Twine from All

1376
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 4: Money in jay Worthy RJ. He got four albums with

1377
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 4: all these dudes, let alone his own solo albums. Like

1378
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 4: everybody pull up. They just like it's like, I'm like, damn,

1379
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 4: this is really in my DNA. Like people pull up

1380
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 4: and do five six, seven, eight, nine, ten songs with him,

1381
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 4: just the same way somebody come get that amount of

1382
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 4: records for me on the producer side.

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00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: That's what it is. The truth is in my eyes

1384
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: coming soon man.

1385
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 2: Words on that.

1386
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 3: Man, what do you think people? How people gonna connect

1387
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 3: to that with listeners?

1388
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 4: Man, the truth is in my eyes. That's that's a

1389
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 4: real piece for the West Coast and just music period,

1390
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 4: Like somebody that's really been through some stuff that most

1391
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 4: people don't experience, you know what I mean, Just like

1392
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 4: really putting that out there and making it enjoyable to

1393
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 4: where you could digest it. But just like it's a

1394
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 4: real raw story, you know what I mean? Been through some,

1395
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 4: You been through some. You got stories for days. Man,

1396
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 4: it's crazy.

1397
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 6: Hey man, I mean I gotta say some of that ship.

1398
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 6: I don't even know.

1399
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 5: It's nothing to be proud of. Man, I ain't I

1400
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 5: ain't bragging. I'll be trying to fall back. But he's like, nah,

1401
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 5: got love.

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00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you don't want to speaking of what were

1403
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: you locked up for for those nine years?

1404
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 6: Oh? Ship?

1405
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: Right now?

1406
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 5: Hitt and run, hitting run yep, before that three bricks Coke,

1407
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 5: gang of guns. But I ended up beating the gun

1408
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 5: charge and got out early. They went right back and

1409
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 5: some counterfeit checks got I went right.

1410
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 6: Back for the checks again.

1411
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: It was a district.

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00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 6: But then I went back for the for this hitting

1413
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 6: run gotcha. Yeah.

1414
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Speaker 1: You talked about it on the Big Showing record a

1415
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: little bit. You say you're on a million dollar restitution.

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00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, yeah, meant out a restitution. But that all

1417
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 5: that's all for me. Man, They kept me like five years.

1418
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 5: I'm finna text. They ask for some millions. Now, they

1419
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 5: held me five years over.

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Speaker 1: They go take a big hit for real world.

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Speaker 2: It up. We appreciate you, guys.

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01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 4: Man show finally got on the rap right Whenever y'all

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01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 4: bring the car test back. Man, we gotta go up

1424
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 4: for shure.

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Speaker 2: Man say let's go, Let's do it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, appreciate man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Hollis Family. Man Wrap rate our podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, rap Radar is. The Interval Presents original production from

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Speaker 1: hyper House, produced by Laura Wasser Hopt and producers Elliott

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Speaker 1: Wilson and Brian B. Dot Miller. From Interval Presents executive

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